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50 Cent Breaks Down "Before I Self Destruct" LP
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50 Cent has revealed details surrounding his upcoming Before I Self Destruct album and said the Curtis follow-up will feature guest appearances by Ne-Yo and R. Kelly.
According to 50, Dr. Dre provided four produced tracks for the G-Unit leader's latest effort.
"I didn't do a lot of collaborating," Fif revealed. "I wrote the record and I had so much time to write so many ideas that I wanted to make sure people heard me...I had the time to make it what I wanted. Me and [Eminem] doing the 'Psycho' joint is crazy on the record. I did this joint with R. Kelly, it's actually a bonus because it's track 16 on the joint...R.Kelly was the last one [besides Ne-Yo]. [Me and Dre,] we did four joints on this album. I had more time with Dre on this record than the other one..." (Shade 45)
The album's cover art landed online last week and will reportedly offer a limited edition deluxe version upon it's retail release.
Be sure to look out for the Limited Editon Deluxe Package as well...Regular and Deluxe Copies of Before I Self Destruct will be available for pre-order on I-Tunes in October with Some Exclusive Bonus Tracks upon its release. Resembling a more Terminator-like version of 50's Curtis album, the new cover once again features solely the rapper's face as half of it appears to be ready to burst as though the rapper were filled with magma. Confirmed by Fif, the project's final release date has been set as November 17th, and is expected to be the last official solo album he makes for Shady/Aftermath/Interscope.
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Same amount of Dre tracks as GRODT. I never expect loads of Dre tracks on a 50 album. Looking forward to it.
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50 should be asked about how he feels about Dr. Dre workin' with The Game again after all these years, or maybe their beef was just a big fuckin publicity stunt :D
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only 4 Dre tracks for 50 cent? haha sucker :laugh:
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Only 4? haha, you know how hard that's to get?
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only 4 Dre tracks for 50 cent? haha sucker :laugh:
He never has many anyway. Do you really wanna see a load of great beats wasted on 50 of today?
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Really think this album is going to be a good effort from 50. Better then curtis maybe not as good as GRODT. Hopefully it will keep its release date. Its seems positive, i.e the releasing of the front cover and 50's starting to make his presence felt again.
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The most Dre involvement since GRODT. "Massacre" and "Curtis" each just had 2 Dre tracks.
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let's hear it.
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Massacre actually had a lot of Dre involvement. He practically mixed the whole album, the 2 beats on the retail version, plus Outta Control remix, When It Rains It Pours, Talk About Me, How We Do, Westside Story, Higher.... all made in the Massacre session or whatever. 50 was just being a bitch when he complained Dre wasn't 100% into his project.
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Massacre actually had a lot of Dre involvement. He practically mixed the whole album, the 2 beats on the retail version, plus Outta Control remix, When It Rains It Pours, Talk About Me, How We Do, Westside Story, Higher.... all made in the Massacre session or whatever. 50 was just being a bitch when he complained Dre wasn't 100% into his project.
Word.
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no and please no more in da club type shit
but more GET UP type shit
only 4 Dre tracks for 50 cent? haha sucker :laugh:
He never has many anyway. Do you really wanna see a load of great beats wasted on 50 of today?
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i hope I Get It In and Ok Your Right aint any of those 4, not that i dont like those songs, i do (played out now tho) but i would put them as bonus tracks at the end along with that Dreaming joint and we got ourselves 7 dre joints on the album 8)
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only 4 Dre tracks for 50 cent? haha sucker :laugh:
He never has many anyway. Do you really wanna see a load of great beats wasted on 50 of today?
to be honest with you, Dre & 50 don't really have that magic together IMO.
but i was mainly commenting on the fact that Eminem gets a whole album with Dre while 50 only gets 4 productions ;)
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Massacre actually had a lot of Dre involvement. He practically mixed the whole album, the 2 beats on the retail version, plus Outta Control remix, When It Rains It Pours, Talk About Me, How We Do, Westside Story, Higher.... all made in the Massacre session or whatever. 50 was just being a bitch when he complained Dre wasn't 100% into his project.
I was addressing those that would consider "4" to be not enough. Ah man... if you heard the original version of "The Massacre" before the album was submitted to Iovine, you'd be suprised at how good it was. It would've been on par with GRODT, if not better. "Outta Control" was initially considered to be the street single (after the original version with Dre and Game spitting on addressing the VIBE Awards incident was scrapped) with "Window Shopper" as the lead radio single. The "Outta Control Remix" was slated for the album. "Talk About Me", "Best Friend", "Hustler's Ambition", "Hate It or Love It" and "When It Rains, It Pours" were part of the original product ("How We Do", "Higher" and "Westside Story" were always intended for The Game). Iovine opted for more radio friendly joints so Fif went and did a handfull of songs with Scott Storch. The other tracks were re-worked and spread out through the re=release and GRODT OST.
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damn still dont get why anyone likes/liked HATE IT OR LOVE IT....borin to me LOL
jus like in da club got shortly after it was released
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only 4 Dre tracks for 50 cent? haha sucker :laugh:
He never has many anyway. Do you really wanna see a load of great beats wasted on 50 of today?
to be honest with you, Dre & 50 don't really have that magic together IMO.
but i was mainly commenting on the fact that Eminem gets a whole album with Dre while 50 only gets 4 productions ;)
Yeah I was kinda under the impression after they went in again this 2nd time to "redo" the album that Dre would be handling most of the production. From a "comeback" standpoint on Dre's behalf it makes alot of sense leading into whenever Relapse 2 and Detox drop.
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Any chances the R. Kelly collabo is a version of "It Could've Been You" with 50 Cent verses instead of Bishop Lamont?
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Any chances the R. Kelly collabo is a version of "It Could've Been You" with 50 Cent verses instead of Bishop Lamont?
Bishop never rapped on that song. It was Slim Da Mobster trying to sound like Bishop.
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looking forward to this
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This will be dope. I won't front.
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I hope its good, I use to be a 50 Fan, before he fell off....GRODT was a classic record. And I hope the 4 Dre joints dont include "Alright Ok
and "I Get It In" those were terrible. My expectations are to high, but if it turns out great, then im in for a treat!
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Massacre actually had a lot of Dre involvement. He practically mixed the whole album, the 2 beats on the retail version, plus Outta Control remix, When It Rains It Pours, Talk About Me, How We Do, Westside Story, Higher.... all made in the Massacre session or whatever. 50 was just being a bitch when he complained Dre wasn't 100% into his project.
I was addressing those that would consider "4" to be not enough. Ah man... if you heard the original version of "The Massacre" before the album was submitted to Iovine, you'd be suprised at how good it was. It would've been on par with GRODT, if not better. "Outta Control" was initially considered to be the street single (after the original version with Dre and Game spitting on addressing the VIBE Awards incident was scrapped) with "Window Shopper" as the lead radio single. The "Outta Control Remix" was slated for the album. "Talk About Me", "Best Friend", "Hustler's Ambition", "Hate It or Love It" and "When It Rains, It Pours" were part of the original product ("How We Do", "Higher" and "Westside Story" were always intended for The Game). Iovine opted for more radio friendly joints so Fif went and did a handfull of songs with Scott Storch. The other tracks were re-worked and spread out through the re=release and GRODT OST.
the oriiginal version of the massacre sounds fucking good from the description of the tracks that were meant to be on there. more evidence of iovine messing up quality albums. no denying candy shop was a monster single, but its no outta control rmx.
and it seems like dre's input on this new album could still range from minimal to pretty heavy, based on what we know. if one or more of the dre joints are tracks we already heard and that's it, then its pretty weak. on the other hand, if all four tracks are fresh new material and dre also mixed a handful of other tracks on there, could be something to look forward to.
on the whole i am pessimistic that this release will be very good. 50 sounded pretty good on some of those mixtapes and leaked tracks, but has been getting progressively worse/cornier on his commercial material. 'baby by me' is a new all-time low for mr cent and is terrible whatever way you look at it.
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People love to hate on 50 but in my opinion he's released 1 classic album to the mainstream - Get Rich or Die Trying. One album that borders classic and as rebel mentioned if they og version was put out would have been classic - the Massacre. And, one good album - Curtis. Yeah, he might have 2 to 4 "bad" or pop song songs on his past two efforts but out of 16 to 18 tracks that's not bad. If he had released a ten track version of the massacre or curtis people would dismiss it as an ep. Yet, when other artist do it ala Kanye West people claim it's a classic record. Too much hate for him. His track record is solid despite what the naysayers say.
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I thought the "Get Rich or Die Tryin" soundtrack was also a dope effort from 50 as well as a lot of those G-Unit solo projects he had a hand in. He's always gonna be cool to hate because he refuses to admit defeat. That's a hard characteristic for the public to embrace in a recording artist in the long run. Most artists will try and humble themselves to the public when the crowd turns on them but 50 enjoys playing the "bad guy" card a lot of the times.
Anyone know if they still plan to include a DVD of the movie with the deluxe edition of this album?
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People love to hate on 50 but in my opinion he's released 1 classic album to the mainstream - Get Rich or Die Trying. One album that borders classic and as rebel mentioned if they og version was put out would have been classic - the Massacre. And, one good album - Curtis. Yeah, he might have 2 to 4 "bad" or pop song songs on his past two efforts but out of 16 to 18 tracks that's not bad. If he had released a ten track version of the massacre or curtis people would dismiss it as an ep. Yet, when other artist do it ala Kanye West people claim it's a classic record. Too much hate for him. His track record is solid despite what the naysayers say.
No doubt, plus like duke said GRODT soundtrack was sick in every way
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People love to hate on 50 but in my opinion he's released 1 classic album to the mainstream - Get Rich or Die Trying. One album that borders classic and as rebel mentioned if they og version was put out would have been classic - the Massacre. And, one good album - Curtis. Yeah, he might have 2 to 4 "bad" or pop song songs on his past two efforts but out of 16 to 18 tracks that's not bad. If he had released a ten track version of the massacre or curtis people would dismiss it as an ep. Yet, when other artist do it ala Kanye West people claim it's a classic record. Too much hate for him. His track record is solid despite what the naysayers say.
classic my ass, but it's 50 cent's best album IMO.
only 4 Dre tracks for 50 cent? haha sucker :laugh:
He never has many anyway. Do you really wanna see a load of great beats wasted on 50 of today?
to be honest with you, Dre & 50 don't really have that magic together IMO.
but i was mainly commenting on the fact that Eminem gets a whole album with Dre while 50 only gets 4 productions ;)
Yeah I was kinda under the impression after they went in again this 2nd time to "redo" the album that Dre would be handling most of the production. From a "comeback" standpoint on Dre's behalf it makes alot of sense leading into whenever Relapse 2 and Detox drop.
50 cent talked shit again :laugh:
no and please no more in da club type shit
but more GET UP type shit
only 4 Dre tracks for 50 cent? haha sucker :laugh:
He never has many anyway. Do you really wanna see a load of great beats wasted on 50 of today?
i rather hear something like Heat, that song is still dope IMO 8)
Any chances the R. Kelly collabo is a version of "It Could've Been You" with 50 Cent verses instead of Bishop Lamont?
Bishop never rapped on that song. It was Slim Da Mobster trying to sound like Bishop.
say what? :o is this really true?
wow
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Quote from: Rebel on Yesterday at 01:14:01 PM
Quote from: LodiDodi on Yesterday at 01:00:20 PM
Any chances the R. Kelly collabo is a version of "It Could've Been You" with 50 Cent verses instead of Bishop Lamont?
Bishop never rapped on that song. It was Slim Da Mobster trying to sound like Bishop.
say what? Shocked is this really true?
wow
Lol doubt it, Bishop writes his own shit
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That gotta be the Siccest album cover yet .. Dope cover and artwork on it
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Quote from: Rebel on Yesterday at 01:14:01 PM
Quote from: LodiDodi on Yesterday at 01:00:20 PM
Any chances the R. Kelly collabo is a version of "It Could've Been You" with 50 Cent verses instead of Bishop Lamont?
Bishop never rapped on that song. It was Slim Da Mobster trying to sound like Bishop.
say what? Shocked is this really true?
wow
Lol doubt it, Bishop writes his own shit
To clarify what I meant... Slim Da Mobster didn't spit this for Bishop to rap over. He literally wanted to be like Bishop. He's always been jealous of Bishop's relationship with Dre... and the reason Slim was signed is because he's D.O.C's cousin.
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Quote from: Rebel on Yesterday at 01:14:01 PM
Quote from: LodiDodi on Yesterday at 01:00:20 PM
Any chances the R. Kelly collabo is a version of "It Could've Been You" with 50 Cent verses instead of Bishop Lamont?
Bishop never rapped on that song. It was Slim Da Mobster trying to sound like Bishop.
say what? Shocked is this really true?
wow
Lol doubt it, Bishop writes his own shit
To clarify what I meant... Slim Da Mobster didn't spit this for Bishop to rap over. He literally wanted to be like Bishop. He's always been jealous of Bishop's relationship with Dre... and the reason Slim was signed is because he's D.O.C's cousin.
lol, that could explain the dissing :P
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Quote from: Rebel on Yesterday at 01:14:01 PM
Quote from: LodiDodi on Yesterday at 01:00:20 PM
Any chances the R. Kelly collabo is a version of "It Could've Been You" with 50 Cent verses instead of Bishop Lamont?
Bishop never rapped on that song. It was Slim Da Mobster trying to sound like Bishop.
say what? Shocked is this really true?
wow
Lol doubt it, Bishop writes his own shit
To clarify what I meant... Slim Da Mobster didn't spit this for Bishop to rap over. He literally wanted to be like Bishop. He's always been jealous of Bishop's relationship with Dre... and the reason Slim was signed is because he's D.O.C's cousin.
lol, that could explain the dissing :P
Crazy, man... how grown ass men get jealous and go crying to their family members to get Dre to sign him. Dude can barely rap, lol.
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Quote from: Rebel on Yesterday at 01:14:01 PM
Quote from: LodiDodi on Yesterday at 01:00:20 PM
Any chances the R. Kelly collabo is a version of "It Could've Been You" with 50 Cent verses instead of Bishop Lamont?
Bishop never rapped on that song. It was Slim Da Mobster trying to sound like Bishop.
say what? Shocked is this really true?
wow
Lol doubt it, Bishop writes his own shit
To clarify what I meant... Slim Da Mobster didn't spit this for Bishop to rap over. He literally wanted to be like Bishop. He's always been jealous of Bishop's relationship with Dre... and the reason Slim was signed is because he's D.O.C's cousin.
lol, that could explain the dissing :P
Crazy, man... how grown ass men get jealous and go crying to their family members to get Dre to sign him. Dude can barely rap, lol.
but Dre signed him :-X
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Dre doesn't do nobody favors. This is about good music and money. Dre will not cut you off from his team unless you stop the hits or he no longer sees the money making potential in you; or if your work ethic gets lazy. Slim Tha Mobsta is not DOC's cousin. He is the nephew of Chocolate. Chocolate & DOC grew up together so the DOC has known Slim since he was a little boy (about age 7) but I do not believe there is any blood tie b/w DOC & Slim. NO matter how much "crying" DOC, Chocolate, etc. would do to Dre (this isn't the case), Dre wouldn't sign any rapper and allow him to work on Detox as a favor. Dre signed Slim for the same reason DOC & Chocolate, and DJ Silk rave about Slim - he thinks Slim is the real deal. And we haven't heard much Slim (for a reason), so we shouldn't go judging his rap skills just yet.
C'mon now.
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the Curtis album was his weakest by far , i didnt like the album at all ... The Massacre was a good album , Get Rich was good ..
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Dre doesn't do nobody favors. This is about good music and money. Dre will not cut you off from his team unless you stop the hits or he no longer sees the money making potential in you; or if your work ethic gets lazy. Slim Tha Mobsta is not DOC's cousin. He is the nephew of Chocolate. Chocolate & DOC grew up together so the DOC has known Slim since he was a little boy (about age 7) but I do not believe there is any blood tie b/w DOC & Slim. NO matter how much "crying" DOC, Chocolate, etc. would do to Dre (this isn't the case), Dre wouldn't sign any rapper and allow him to work on Detox as a favor. Dre signed Slim for the same reason DOC & Chocolate, and DJ Silk rave about Slim - he thinks Slim is the real deal. And we haven't heard much Slim (for a reason), so we shouldn't go judging his rap skills just yet.
C'mon now.
I know it was done as a favor. Don't get me wrong, they'll try and make music together and Slim will be doing writing for Dre, but if he wasn't close to D.O.C. I highly doubt Dre would've signed him. And the source who told me he was a cousin or distant cousin to D.O.C. is very very very close to Dre. And I didn't reffer to D.O.C. or Chocolate crying to Dre... I refferred to Slim Da Mobster doing it. I know for a fact he's a hater, and I don't think he has the skill to back up his hate, IMO. In any case, I'm just a messanger and a fan. I give news and inside info (that which doesn't spoil future projects of course) and I give my personal opinion based on what I hear as a fan of Dre and Hip Hop.
C'mon dude... you've seen me post here for a while now. You know what I'm about, pimp.
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I'm with Lunatic on this one, I don't believe that rumor one bit or would basically made sense if it was the other way around: it seems Bishop hasn't got a clue what's going on with Aftermath since he leaked Grow Up and Slim took his spot so to speak.
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I'm with Lunatic on this one, I don't believe that rumor one bit or would basically made sense if it was the other way around: it seems Bishop hasn't got a clue what's going on with Aftermath since he leaked Grow Up and Slim took his spot so to speak.
Like I said, I'm just a messanger. But you know I get inside info, Meho... I don't just make up BS. If I can't reveal my sources, than I always tell people to treat as a rumor.
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Yeah I know that, don't get me wrong. But even a source can be biased. The dude that is your source might be more pro Bishop and anti Slim. Like you said you're just the messenger, I'm just saying this one doesn't make sense to me since Bishop isn't mentioned in any Aftermath related interview while Slim is, Bishop's twitter never say "working on Detox" like Stat's does, even Bishop himself always gives shady answers in his latest interviews when it comes to Aftermath, we've seen recent pics of Slim with Em...
Edit: Slim Da Mobster latest twitter update: In the lab, DETOXIN'!!
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Yeah I know that, don't get me wrong. But even a source can be biased. The dude that is your source might be more pro Bishop and anti Slim. Like you said you're just the messenger, I'm just saying this one doesn't make sense to me since Bishop isn't mentioned in any Aftermath related interview while Slim is, Bishop's twitter never say "working on Detox" like Stat's does, even Bishop himself always gives shady answers in his latest interviews when it comes to Aftermath, we've seen recent pics of Slim with Em...
Edit: Slim Da Mobster latest twitter update: In the lab, DETOXIN'!!
True. I can give you details on that situation... but just you...and through a PM if you want, and you'll know why things are like they seem.
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Tbh im just gonna let hem sort it out between themselves. As long as Slim and Bishop release dope music I'll listen and support. Its a shame they can't get along but hey maybe in 10yrs time we'll get insiders books.
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lol 50 still trying to make music
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Yeah I know that, don't get me wrong. But even a source can be biased. The dude that is your source might be more pro Bishop and anti Slim. Like you said you're just the messenger, I'm just saying this one doesn't make sense to me since Bishop isn't mentioned in any Aftermath related interview while Slim is, Bishop's twitter never say "working on Detox" like Stat's does, even Bishop himself always gives shady answers in his latest interviews when it comes to Aftermath, we've seen recent pics of Slim with Em...
Edit: Slim Da Mobster latest twitter update: In the lab, DETOXIN'!!
True. I can give you details on that situation... but just you...and through a PM if you want, and you'll know why things are like they seem.
Damn you gonna do us like that haha kidding. I think Slimm has a lot of potential, and also that if Bishop doesn't drop soon his time will be wasted cos it seems Slimm's slowly taking the spotlight from under him at the Math camp. Either way Reformation >>>>
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Dre doesn't do nobody favors. This is about good music and money. Dre will not cut you off from his team unless you stop the hits or he no longer sees the money making potential in you; or if your work ethic gets lazy. Slim Tha Mobsta is not DOC's cousin. He is the nephew of Chocolate. Chocolate & DOC grew up together so the DOC has known Slim since he was a little boy (about age 7) but I do not believe there is any blood tie b/w DOC & Slim. NO matter how much "crying" DOC, Chocolate, etc. would do to Dre (this isn't the case), Dre wouldn't sign any rapper and allow him to work on Detox as a favor. Dre signed Slim for the same reason DOC & Chocolate, and DJ Silk rave about Slim - he thinks Slim is the real deal. And we haven't heard much Slim (for a reason), so we shouldn't go judging his rap skills just yet.
C'mon now.
I know it was done as a favor. Don't get me wrong, they'll try and make music together and Slim will be doing writing for Dre, but if he wasn't close to D.O.C. I highly doubt Dre would've signed him. And the source who told me he was a cousin or distant cousin to D.O.C. is very very very close to Dre. And I didn't reffer to D.O.C. or Chocolate crying to Dre... I refferred to Slim Da Mobster doing it. I know for a fact he's a hater, and I don't think he has the skill to back up his hate, IMO. In any case, I'm just a messanger and a fan. I give news and inside info (that which doesn't spoil future projects of course) and I give my personal opinion based on what I hear as a fan of Dre and Hip Hop.
C'mon dude... you've seen me post here for a while now. You know what I'm about, pimp.
He is close to DOC due to being the nephew of Chocolate. Not so much related, but very close since DOC has watched Slim grow up (again, due to his close relationship to Chocolate). Chocolate lived with The DOC for a long time back in the 80s. He didn't get his own pad until "Ice Ice Baby" took off and he bought his own crib. And even if Slim was the one who "cried" at Dre to sign him (and NOT DOC/Chocolate;), I wonder how many rappers Dre would sign if he signed all the rappers that "cried" for him to sign them lol; that's bad business and Dre ain't about to sign you because you begged him to. I know what your about, don't take what I'm saying as a "shot" at you or anything. I'm just posting the way I see it because just like you, I get inside info but I will reveal my sources, because they wouldn't have a problem with it...Chocolate & DJ Silk.
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Dre doesn't do nobody favors. This is about good music and money. Dre will not cut you off from his team unless you stop the hits or he no longer sees the money making potential in you; or if your work ethic gets lazy. Slim Tha Mobsta is not DOC's cousin. He is the nephew of Chocolate. Chocolate & DOC grew up together so the DOC has known Slim since he was a little boy (about age 7) but I do not believe there is any blood tie b/w DOC & Slim. NO matter how much "crying" DOC, Chocolate, etc. would do to Dre (this isn't the case), Dre wouldn't sign any rapper and allow him to work on Detox as a favor. Dre signed Slim for the same reason DOC & Chocolate, and DJ Silk rave about Slim - he thinks Slim is the real deal. And we haven't heard much Slim (for a reason), so we shouldn't go judging his rap skills just yet.
C'mon now.
I know it was done as a favor. Don't get me wrong, they'll try and make music together and Slim will be doing writing for Dre, but if he wasn't close to D.O.C. I highly doubt Dre would've signed him. And the source who told me he was a cousin or distant cousin to D.O.C. is very very very close to Dre. And I didn't reffer to D.O.C. or Chocolate crying to Dre... I refferred to Slim Da Mobster doing it. I know for a fact he's a hater, and I don't think he has the skill to back up his hate, IMO. In any case, I'm just a messanger and a fan. I give news and inside info (that which doesn't spoil future projects of course) and I give my personal opinion based on what I hear as a fan of Dre and Hip Hop.
C'mon dude... you've seen me post here for a while now. You know what I'm about, pimp.
He is close to DOC due to being the nephew of Chocolate. Not so much related, but very close since DOC has watched Slim grow up (again, due to his close relationship to Chocolate). Chocolate lived with The DOC for a long time back in the 80s. He didn't get his own pad until "Ice Ice Baby" took off and he bought his own crib. And even if Slim was the one who "cried" at Dre to sign him (and NOT DOC/Chocolate;), I wonder how many rappers Dre would sign if he signed all the rappers that "cried" for him to sign them lol; that's bad business and Dre ain't about to sign you because you begged him to. I know what your about, don't take what I'm saying as a "shot" at you or anything. I'm just posting the way I see it because just like you, I get inside info but I will reveal my sources, because they wouldn't have a problem with it...Chocolate & DJ Silk.
Yeah yeah it's all good, fam. Hopefully we'll get some good music from all them cats, you know?
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Dre doesn't do nobody favors. This is about good music and money. Dre will not cut you off from his team unless you stop the hits or he no longer sees the money making potential in you; or if your work ethic gets lazy. Slim Tha Mobsta is not DOC's cousin. He is the nephew of Chocolate. Chocolate & DOC grew up together so the DOC has known Slim since he was a little boy (about age 7) but I do not believe there is any blood tie b/w DOC & Slim. NO matter how much "crying" DOC, Chocolate, etc. would do to Dre (this isn't the case), Dre wouldn't sign any rapper and allow him to work on Detox as a favor. Dre signed Slim for the same reason DOC & Chocolate, and DJ Silk rave about Slim - he thinks Slim is the real deal. And we haven't heard much Slim (for a reason), so we shouldn't go judging his rap skills just yet.
C'mon now.
I know it was done as a favor. Don't get me wrong, they'll try and make music together and Slim will be doing writing for Dre, but if he wasn't close to D.O.C. I highly doubt Dre would've signed him. And the source who told me he was a cousin or distant cousin to D.O.C. is very very very close to Dre. And I didn't reffer to D.O.C. or Chocolate crying to Dre... I refferred to Slim Da Mobster doing it. I know for a fact he's a hater, and I don't think he has the skill to back up his hate, IMO. In any case, I'm just a messanger and a fan. I give news and inside info (that which doesn't spoil future projects of course) and I give my personal opinion based on what I hear as a fan of Dre and Hip Hop.
C'mon dude... you've seen me post here for a while now. You know what I'm about, pimp.
He is close to DOC due to being the nephew of Chocolate. Not so much related, but very close since DOC has watched Slim grow up (again, due to his close relationship to Chocolate). Chocolate lived with The DOC for a long time back in the 80s. He didn't get his own pad until "Ice Ice Baby" took off and he bought his own crib. And even if Slim was the one who "cried" at Dre to sign him (and NOT DOC/Chocolate;), I wonder how many rappers Dre would sign if he signed all the rappers that "cried" for him to sign them lol; that's bad business and Dre ain't about to sign you because you begged him to. I know what your about, don't take what I'm saying as a "shot" at you or anything. I'm just posting the way I see it because just like you, I get inside info but I will reveal my sources, because they wouldn't have a problem with it...Chocolate & DJ Silk.
Yeah yeah it's all good, fam. Hopefully we'll get some good music from all them cats, you know?
I agree..hope u don't think i'm trying to argue with cha..just lettin my opinion and info i've get be known..
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Dre doesn't do nobody favors. This is about good music and money. Dre will not cut you off from his team unless you stop the hits or he no longer sees the money making potential in you; or if your work ethic gets lazy. Slim Tha Mobsta is not DOC's cousin. He is the nephew of Chocolate. Chocolate & DOC grew up together so the DOC has known Slim since he was a little boy (about age 7) but I do not believe there is any blood tie b/w DOC & Slim. NO matter how much "crying" DOC, Chocolate, etc. would do to Dre (this isn't the case), Dre wouldn't sign any rapper and allow him to work on Detox as a favor. Dre signed Slim for the same reason DOC & Chocolate, and DJ Silk rave about Slim - he thinks Slim is the real deal. And we haven't heard much Slim (for a reason), so we shouldn't go judging his rap skills just yet.
C'mon now.
I know it was done as a favor. Don't get me wrong, they'll try and make music together and Slim will be doing writing for Dre, but if he wasn't close to D.O.C. I highly doubt Dre would've signed him. And the source who told me he was a cousin or distant cousin to D.O.C. is very very very close to Dre. And I didn't reffer to D.O.C. or Chocolate crying to Dre... I refferred to Slim Da Mobster doing it. I know for a fact he's a hater, and I don't think he has the skill to back up his hate, IMO. In any case, I'm just a messanger and a fan. I give news and inside info (that which doesn't spoil future projects of course) and I give my personal opinion based on what I hear as a fan of Dre and Hip Hop.
C'mon dude... you've seen me post here for a while now. You know what I'm about, pimp.
He is close to DOC due to being the nephew of Chocolate. Not so much related, but very close since DOC has watched Slim grow up (again, due to his close relationship to Chocolate). Chocolate lived with The DOC for a long time back in the 80s. He didn't get his own pad until "Ice Ice Baby" took off and he bought his own crib. And even if Slim was the one who "cried" at Dre to sign him (and NOT DOC/Chocolate;), I wonder how many rappers Dre would sign if he signed all the rappers that "cried" for him to sign them lol; that's bad business and Dre ain't about to sign you because you begged him to. I know what your about, don't take what I'm saying as a "shot" at you or anything. I'm just posting the way I see it because just like you, I get inside info but I will reveal my sources, because they wouldn't have a problem with it...Chocolate & DJ Silk.
Yeah yeah it's all good, fam. Hopefully we'll get some good music from all them cats, you know?
I agree..hope u don't think i'm trying to argue with cha..just lettin my opinion and info i've get be known..
No doubt... that's why we all look forward to your posts.
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lol @ anyone who will check this album and expects good (Dr. Dre produced) songs
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Dre doesn't do nobody favors. This is about good music and money. Dre will not cut you off from his team unless you stop the hits or he no longer sees the money making potential in you; or if your work ethic gets lazy. Slim Tha Mobsta is not DOC's cousin. He is the nephew of Chocolate. Chocolate & DOC grew up together so the DOC has known Slim since he was a little boy (about age 7) but I do not believe there is any blood tie b/w DOC & Slim. NO matter how much "crying" DOC, Chocolate, etc. would do to Dre (this isn't the case), Dre wouldn't sign any rapper and allow him to work on Detox as a favor. Dre signed Slim for the same reason DOC & Chocolate, and DJ Silk rave about Slim - he thinks Slim is the real deal. And we haven't heard much Slim (for a reason), so we shouldn't go judging his rap skills just yet.
C'mon now.
I know it was done as a favor. Don't get me wrong, they'll try and make music together and Slim will be doing writing for Dre, but if he wasn't close to D.O.C. I highly doubt Dre would've signed him. And the source who told me he was a cousin or distant cousin to D.O.C. is very very very close to Dre. And I didn't reffer to D.O.C. or Chocolate crying to Dre... I refferred to Slim Da Mobster doing it. I know for a fact he's a hater, and I don't think he has the skill to back up his hate, IMO. In any case, I'm just a messanger and a fan. I give news and inside info (that which doesn't spoil future projects of course) and I give my personal opinion based on what I hear as a fan of Dre and Hip Hop.
C'mon dude... you've seen me post here for a while now. You know what I'm about, pimp.
He is close to DOC due to being the nephew of Chocolate. Not so much related, but very close since DOC has watched Slim grow up (again, due to his close relationship to Chocolate). Chocolate lived with The DOC for a long time back in the 80s. He didn't get his own pad until "Ice Ice Baby" took off and he bought his own crib. And even if Slim was the one who "cried" at Dre to sign him (and NOT DOC/Chocolate;), I wonder how many rappers Dre would sign if he signed all the rappers that "cried" for him to sign them lol; that's bad business and Dre ain't about to sign you because you begged him to. I know what your about, don't take what I'm saying as a "shot" at you or anything. I'm just posting the way I see it because just like you, I get inside info but I will reveal my sources, because they wouldn't have a problem with it...Chocolate & DJ Silk.
Yeah yeah it's all good, fam. Hopefully we'll get some good music from all them cats, you know?
I agree..hope u don't think i'm trying to argue with cha..just lettin my opinion and info i've get be known..
No doubt... that's why we all look forward to your posts.
Same reason I always look forward to yours..
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hopefully its not like Curtais...
that only had like 5 bangers
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hey, rebel or lunatic do either of you have a tracklisting for an og version of the massacre?
rebel had said it included tracks of get rich or die trying soundtrack. does anyone know the order and what tracks were originally on the one 50 wants to present to the public before iovine wanted something else.
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hey, rebel or lunatic do either of you have a tracklisting for an og version of the massacre?
rebel had said it included tracks of get rich or die trying soundtrack. does anyone know the order and what tracks were originally on the one 50 wants to present to the public before iovine wanted something else.
It's been a couple of years since I heard it so this may not be exact, but from the info I still have and from what I can remember, here it is:
1) The Massacre (Intro.)
2) I Don't Need 'Em
3) Hate It or Love It (feat. The Game)
4) Window Shopper
5) Ski Mask Way
6) This Is 50
7) I'm Supposed to Die Tonight
8) Ryder Music
9) Outta Control [this was originally going to be a bonus track on Game's "The Documentary" featuring Dr. Dre - rapping about beefs and the Vibe Awards '04 incident - but was scrapped]
10) Talk About Me
11) A Baltimore Love Thing
12) In My Hood
13) Best Friend
14) Gunz Come Out
15) Position of Power
16) What If
17) So Amazing (feat. Olivia)
18) When it Rains, it Pours
19) Still Outta Control (feat. Mobb Deep) [this wasn't called Outta Control Remix at the time, forgot the original title)
20) Gatman & Robbin' (feat. Eminem)
21) Hustler's Ambition
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I forget what a good album the massacre was.
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damn the og Massacre woulda been soo dope. I'd say it would even have allowed 50 to continue his domination for a while longer. By adding Candy Shop and Just a lil bit everyone jumped on him for selling out.
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hey, rebel or lunatic do either of you have a tracklisting for an og version of the massacre?
rebel had said it included tracks of get rich or die trying soundtrack. does anyone know the order and what tracks were originally on the one 50 wants to present to the public before iovine wanted something else.
9) Outta Control [this was originally going to be a bonus track on Game's "The Documentary" featuring Dr. Dre - rapping about beefs and the Vibe Awards '04 incident - but was scrapped]
i would like to hear this
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Get Rich was his best album because it flowed so well from beginning to end and it felt like a story. That's my biggest complaint about the massacre and especially curtis. I like the majority of the material but I felt like the track placement was wrong and it failed to tell a story. =
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hey, rebel or lunatic do either of you have a tracklisting for an og version of the massacre?
rebel had said it included tracks of get rich or die trying soundtrack. does anyone know the order and what tracks were originally on the one 50 wants to present to the public before iovine wanted something else.
It's been a couple of years since I heard it so this may not be exact, but from the info I still have and from what I can remember, here it is:
1) The Massacre (Intro.)
2) I Don't Need 'Em
3) Hate It or Love It (feat. The Game)
4) Window Shopper
5) Ski Mask Way
6) This Is 50
7) I'm Supposed to Die Tonight
8) Ryder Music
9) Outta Control [this was originally going to be a bonus track on Game's "The Documentary" featuring Dr. Dre - rapping about beefs and the Vibe Awards '04 incident - but was scrapped]
10) Talk About Me
11) A Baltimore Love Thing
12) In My Hood
13) Best Friend
14) Gunz Come Out
15) Position of Power
16) What If
17) So Amazing (feat. Olivia)
18) When it Rains, it Pours
19) Still Outta Control (feat. Mobb Deep) [this wasn't called Outta Control Remix at the time, forgot the original title)
20) Gatman & Robbin' (feat. Eminem)
21) Hustler's Ambition
Fuckin Jimmy, that album would have been classic