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Title: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: GATMAN on October 29, 2009, 11:15:47 PM
http://www.ddotomen.com/2009/10/30/beanie-sigel-i-aint-ya-average-jay-z-diss/
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 200
Post by: Blood$ on October 29, 2009, 11:16:26 PM
uh oh
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 200
Post by: stillinrehab on October 30, 2009, 12:45:40 AM
That time of the month is it?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 200
Post by: MediumL on October 30, 2009, 03:12:37 AM
Beans could actually go hard at Jay Z. People forget how good Beans was against Jada...
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on October 30, 2009, 03:13:34 AM
must have an album due  ;)
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: The Ultimate Pianist on October 30, 2009, 04:31:38 AM
lol, yeah maybe he has an album due... but damn i was surprised...i wasnt following beans recently cause i wasnt feeling his stuff anymore....
this is tight tho 8)
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on October 30, 2009, 04:43:47 AM
This isn't a Jay-Z diss.
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: BiggSadot on October 30, 2009, 07:51:17 AM
This aint really a diss just Beans getting alot of the fucked up shit JayZ has done to him and people around him off his chest. When Jay had everyone goin at him State Prop stood right there with him and went against whoever tried to diss him. For niggas to be back in Philly struggling and JayZ not givin a fuck about themit shows Jays shitty character.
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: Action! on October 30, 2009, 08:11:26 AM
I'm not going to say Jay probably hasn't done some shady shit but how much of a hand out can you give?
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on October 30, 2009, 08:41:47 AM
Charlamagne Tha God Interviews Beanie Sigel about diss

http://www.zshare.net/audio/676959526535015c/

Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: Action! on October 30, 2009, 09:28:26 AM
He makes 50 sound like a saint when it comes to rap bosses.  haha. 

I don't feel bad for dude.  Jay should allow him out of his contract but beyond that Beanie never had that it factor.
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: BiggSadot on October 30, 2009, 11:34:20 AM
It got nothing to do with if you like his rappin or not its loyalty and Jay aint got none. Dude rode for you in every beef you had said he would have taken a bullet for the team the least Jay could have done is seen the nigga in jail or sent him some flix. If you dont understand his problem you probably a fake ass person yourself.
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: PLANT on October 30, 2009, 02:40:31 PM
damn this track is dope, Beans spitting some crazy lines, and crazy talk at the end of the track  :o
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: Jome on October 30, 2009, 03:57:44 PM
Beans is dope as fuck, but going at Jay is a dumbass move..
Jay doesn't even have to reply, he's awarded the win by legend status alone.. just ask Buddens or Game.. :D

Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 200
Post by: MediumL on October 30, 2009, 04:04:22 PM
^ na. Beans can get a Hov. it aint like Beans is a new cat. Plus hes held his weight against Nas and The Lox. Jay was too pussy to even get involved with the Lox beef yet State prop ran around fighting his battles. True Jay stans may ignore what Beanie says in his diss and just ride with Hov but imo with Jay rapping like he is Beans could def take Jay
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 30, 2009, 04:08:45 PM
why did he even do it?
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: Action! on October 30, 2009, 04:27:47 PM
Didn't Beans side with Dame during the split.  Talk about loyalty.  Then when his ass went to jail and wanted to get back on with the ROC, Jay still signed him again.  But the damage was done.  The relationship already fell apart.

I don't feel sorry for any rapper if they don't handle their business right.  It's in your power to read the contracts and make proper moves.   Life's a big lesson and you got to learn how to act.  Some times you got to shut the fuck up, other times you got to fight back.   

Loyalty don't mean shit.  People are always changing. 
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on October 30, 2009, 09:28:55 PM
Beans is dope as fuck, but going at Jay is a dumbass move..
Jay doesn't even have to reply, he's awarded the win by legend status alone.. just ask Buddens or Game.. :D



Are you serious?  Do you even like Hip-Hop?  Jay's last beef record was against Jim Jones and Jones flipped it on him and won.  Jones isn't legend status.  I fail to see how "status" decides who is the better rapper....  ie: Dr. Dre


Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on October 30, 2009, 10:16:47 PM
Beans is dope as fuck, but going at Jay is a dumbass move..
Jay doesn't even have to reply, he's awarded the win by legend status alone.. just ask Buddens or Game.. :D



disagree with u my man, jay-z is good but he always been overated to me. just ask nas haha, jay is one dimensional always has been
   
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: Action! on October 30, 2009, 11:10:05 PM
What the hell does than even mean?  One dimensional? Really? 
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: Elano on October 30, 2009, 11:17:39 PM
Beanie Sigel Calls Charlamagne Tha God (??)
3:35-4:00 I love the way 50 did with his dawgs. If you look at it, them dudes got more money and more bread than anybody in State Property. Cuz 50 made sure of that. 50 went on tour AND paid them. Not tell them it was a good look for them to be on the tour and things like that. True story, I’m sitting on house arrest and the Young Gunz call my phone cuz Jay-Z is only paying them $1200 a show. And they had to split it.
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 30, 2009, 11:26:43 PM
Beans is dope as fuck, but going at Jay is a dumbass move..
Jay doesn't even have to reply, he's awarded the win by legend status alone.. just ask Buddens or Game.. :D



Are you serious?  Do you even like Hip-Hop?  Jay's last beef record was against Jim Jones and Jones flipped it on him and won.  Jones isn't legend status.  I fail to see how "status" decides who is the better rapper....  ie: Dr. Dre




i'm 99% sure that Jome is being sarcastic lol.
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: Elano on October 30, 2009, 11:29:21 PM
Beans is dope as fuck, but going at Jay is a dumbass move..
Jay doesn't even have to reply, he's awarded the win by legend status alone.. just ask Buddens or Game.. :D



Jay's last beef record was against Jim Jones and Jones flipped it on him and won. 




mmm....who has certified the victory ?  ::)
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: Elano on October 30, 2009, 11:52:16 PM
Memphis Bleek has responded to Beanie Sigel's "Not Your Average Cat" name drop and questioned why his former Roc-A-Fella labelmate would go after Jay-Z.
Click here to find out more!

Writing via Twitter, Bleek expressed his initial confusion and gave props for Beans' diss.

    "Just waking up my phone going crazy over this segiel sh*t," Bleek wrote Friday (October 30) morning. "I just seen son at power house wasn't nothing now its something..... I'm lost on that.... Guess that's how the rap game work....F*ck bleek 3 haaa that's a good one...And for the rec....I can't diss that's my nigg we gotta get up an chop it up that's all..He know me that's all I could say..." (Memphis Bleek's Twitter)

The record also caught fellow New York rapper Fabolous' attention.

    "I jus heard a JayZ diss record by Beanie Siegel..," Fab wrote Friday (October 30). "That's ill to me.. And the record is hard! Never thought i would hear a JayZ diss song by Beanie Siegel....WOW..jus wow.. (Affion Crockett chris brown on larry king impression voice) To me its disappointing, i hate 2 c family fight.. But i dont know either side of the story.. So im neutral & enjoyin the music, as u should i made JayZ & Beanie Siegel a trending topic not even tryin to.. SMH...lol..i hate hip hop family splits & beef's... the Cam vs. Jim & Juelz, the Cash Money vs. Juve, B.G. & Turk.. Dr. Dre vs. Snoop... all bad." (Fabolous' Twitter)
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: Jome on October 31, 2009, 03:22:35 AM
Beans is dope as fuck, but going at Jay is a dumbass move..
Jay doesn't even have to reply, he's awarded the win by legend status alone.. just ask Buddens or Game.. :D


Are you serious?  Do you even like Hip-Hop?  Jay's last beef record was against Jim Jones and Jones flipped it on him and won.  Jones isn't legend status.  I fail to see how "status" decides who is the better rapper....  ie: Dr. Dre

LOL @ Jim Jones winning anything.  :D
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: Jome on October 31, 2009, 03:23:39 AM
disagree with u my man, jay-z is good but he always been overated to me. just ask nas haha, jay is one dimensional always has been

As far as I know, Nas signed with Jay-Z's label, and co-signed Jay as one of the greatest.. bad example dude.

Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 200
Post by: MediumL on October 31, 2009, 03:43:24 AM
Yer people can't hate and say Jay isn't a legend cause he is. But Beans has put in enough work and has been in the game long enough to go at Jay
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on October 31, 2009, 05:54:01 AM
disagree with u my man, jay-z is good but he always been overated to me. just ask nas haha, jay is one dimensional always has been

As far as I know, Nas signed with Jay-Z's label, and co-signed Jay as one of the greatest.. bad example dude.


Again, you are confused.  How does Nas signing to someone's label make him better or worse in terms of skill, than that person?

Nas has always been better than Jay, and signing contracts has nothing to do with it.

Defifitize yourself cuz if you don't think in terms of a battle that Beanie can't beat Jay just cuz Jay is a "bigger" artist you wrong.  Remember the Roc/D-Block beef?  Beans vs Jada...  And if I were gonna take your shenanigans route, I would probably say Beans already won cuz Jay is too scared to reply... I'm pretty sure that's how you would put it if you liked Beans more than Jay...

For the record I like Jay more than Beans, but come on, dude would get wrecked in a battle...
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: Jome on October 31, 2009, 08:18:21 AM
disagree with u my man, jay-z is good but he always been overated to me. just ask nas haha, jay is one dimensional always has been

As far as I know, Nas signed with Jay-Z's label, and co-signed Jay as one of the greatest.. bad example dude.


Again, you are confused.  How does Nas signing to someone's label make him better or worse in terms of skill, than that person?

Nas has always been better than Jay, and signing contracts has nothing to do with it.

Defifitize yourself cuz if you don't think in terms of a battle that Beanie can't beat Jay just cuz Jay is a "bigger" artist you wrong.  Remember the Roc/D-Block beef?  Beans vs Jada...  And if I were gonna take your shenanigans route, I would probably say Beans already won cuz Jay is too scared to reply... I'm pretty sure that's how you would put it if you liked Beans more than Jay...

For the record I like Jay more than Beans, but come on, dude would get wrecked in a battle...

You mis-interpreted the post totally.  ::)
Makeveli1971 said "Jay is overrated, just ask Nas" -> to which I replied that Nas signed with Jay-Z and co-signed, worked, and performed with Jay-Z, and called him amongst the greatest in some interview.
So yeah, we can ask Nas..  :D

As you see, there's no need for a Nas defense speech.

As for Beans vs. Jay - Beans is a beast, of course.. but there's not much to win when you're going against your mentor, former boss, advisor and supposed friend, who created your career, and happens to be a legend in the game.
It just makes you look like some of these anti-Jay clowns in these latest threads.. a sad, bitter person with an inferiority complex.. ask Jaz-O.  :-\
For the record, I have every single Beanie album released, and I'm not stopping there.. Beanie = east-coast Scarface.

Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 200
Post by: MediumL on October 31, 2009, 08:45:04 AM
There's a lot of Jay haters on here. Dunno why... May have something to do with Pac dissing Jay (hence why Mobb Deep gets a lot of hate) or Game dissing Jay. Either way Jay has dropped a lot of dope albums this decade (Blueprint, Black album, American Gangster and The Dynasty had some strong points). Maybe if he put on a west coast act people's opinions would change but don't worry cause he hasn't exactly supported NY artists either.
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: jeanmiche777 on October 31, 2009, 09:26:20 AM
Beanie Sigel Calls Charlamagne Tha God (??)
3:35-4:00 I love the way 50 did with his dawgs. If you look at it, them dudes got more money and more bread than anybody in State Property. Cuz 50 made sure of that. 50 went on tour AND paid them. Not tell them it was a good look for them to be on the tour and things like that. True story, I’m sitting on house arrest and the Young Gunz call my phone cuz Jay-Z is only paying them $1200 a show. And they had to split it.

 :'( Poor Beanie Sigel
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: Jome on October 31, 2009, 10:03:04 AM
Jay-Z to some reporter:

Quote
“Well, Beanie Sigel at the time, and you can look it up if you like, was driving two Bentleys. With his momma in the sticks and selling 800,000 records, I don’t know what more you can do for somebody. What people choose to do when they attain of success— at some point you have to look in the mirror, and look at yourself. Beanie Sigel had a record deal, a record label, and a clothing line. And never went platinum, ever. I don’t know in the history of rap has anyone done so much with so little. What more can you do for a person at that point. A record deal, that’s normal. A record label and a clothing line. If that’s not pushing a person, shitttt…
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 200
Post by: Blood$ on October 31, 2009, 10:23:06 AM
I was surprised to hear this on the radio last night lol they even played the entire outro  ;D
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: west koasting on October 31, 2009, 02:38:40 PM
if it wasent for jay beans aint nothing how u gonna diss him?
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 200
Post by: Jaydc on October 31, 2009, 02:58:25 PM
There's a lot of Jay haters on here. Dunno why... May have something to do with Pac dissing Jay (hence why Mobb Deep gets a lot of hate) or Game dissing Jay. Either way Jay has dropped a lot of dope albums this decade (Blueprint, Black album, American Gangster and The Dynasty had some strong points). Maybe if he put on a west coast act people's opinions would change but don't worry cause he hasn't exactly supported NY artists either.


Its because jay-z is a pop artist,thats why he gets so called haters.Sure he sells lots of records,most pop artists do.That doesnt make him the greatest artist like people like to claim.I owna  few jay albums but to me he isnt even top ten.From his flow to his lyrics notghing about him is great.Hell hes not even a good business man.When he took over def jam he pushed aside the street rappers and embraced a bunch of pop acts,like himself and turned the label into the joke it is now.All his artists never had success,it was t he people dame signed that were always the ones that had success.Shit rihanna had like 8 big big budget videos for her album and still only did two platniuum.If any artist had 8 fucking videos being pushed they could do that she isnt anything spcial.
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 200
Post by: jeanmiche777 on October 31, 2009, 04:14:53 PM
There's a lot of Jay haters on here. Dunno why... May have something to do with Pac dissing Jay (hence why Mobb Deep gets a lot of hate) or Game dissing Jay. Either way Jay has dropped a lot of dope albums this decade (Blueprint, Black album, American Gangster and The Dynasty had some strong points). Maybe if he put on a west coast act people's opinions would change but don't worry cause he hasn't exactly supported NY artists either.


Its because jay-z is a pop artist,thats why he gets so called haters.Sure he sells lots of records,most pop artists do.That doesnt make him the greatest artist like people like to claim.I owna  few jay albums but to me he isnt even top ten.From his flow to his lyrics notghing about him is great.Hell hes not even a good business man.

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 200
Post by: Elano on November 01, 2009, 03:06:46 AM
But Beans has put in enough work and has been in the game long enough to go at Jay

are you joking ?
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on November 01, 2009, 03:37:49 AM
disagree with u my man, jay-z is good but he always been overated to me. just ask nas haha, jay is one dimensional always has been

As far as I know, Nas signed with Jay-Z's label, and co-signed Jay as one of the greatest.. bad example dude.


Again, you are confused.  How does Nas signing to someone's label make him better or worse in terms of skill, than that person?

Nas has always been better than Jay, and signing contracts has nothing to do with it.

Defifitize yourself cuz if you don't think in terms of a battle that Beanie can't beat Jay just cuz Jay is a "bigger" artist you wrong.  Remember the Roc/D-Block beef?  Beans vs Jada...  And if I were gonna take your shenanigans route, I would probably say Beans already won cuz Jay is too scared to reply... I'm pretty sure that's how you would put it if you liked Beans more than Jay...

For the record I like Jay more than Beans, but come on, dude would get wrecked in a battle...

You mis-interpreted the post totally.  ::)
Makeveli1971 said "Jay is overrated, just ask Nas" -> to which I replied that Nas signed with Jay-Z and co-signed, worked, and performed with Jay-Z, and called him amongst the greatest in some interview.
So yeah, we can ask Nas..  :D

As you see, there's no need for a Nas defense speech.

As for Beans vs. Jay - Beans is a beast, of course.. but there's not much to win when you're going against your mentor, former boss, advisor and supposed friend, who created your career, and happens to be a legend in the game.
It just makes you look like some of these anti-Jay clowns in these latest threads.. a sad, bitter person with an inferiority complex.. ask Jaz-O.  :-\
For the record, I have every single Beanie album released, and I'm not stopping there.. Beanie = east-coast Scarface.



Fuck Jaz-O, he doesn't even rap.  What can he do to Jay-Z?  Nothing.  What does this have to do with Hip-Hop sparring?  Nothing.  I'm talking about lyrics and taking a dude's head off.  If you feel Jay has all that over Beans, he should put it in a rap, and then I'll give it to him, if he flips it nicely.  And there is need for a Nas defense speech, because Jay is amongst the greatest, everyone knows that.  But he is also overrated.  Whether Nas _can_ or _will_ say that is another question.  We already know he feels he is the superior artist and I agree with that.

Beans may have helped Jay come up so he can be the star that he is now, but how long does Jay have to repay him with oppurtunities?  That's the kinda concept I wanna hear in a track from Jay.  Interviews ain't shit, Jay needs to try and get at Beans on the mic.  They're both seasoned vets...  I still think Beans comes out on top.
Title: Re: Beanie Sigel – I Ain’t Ya Average (Jay-Z Diss) By Mr. Fiona on Oct 30, 2009 in
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on November 01, 2009, 03:40:20 AM
I hate how people will give artists a loss because of their status/accolades, even though they school their opponent on the actual song(s).   That's not how you judge a battle...