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Title: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live in?
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on November 24, 2009, 12:17:31 PM
should you need to speak the language of the country you want to live in vs takin advantage of that country and get away wit not speakin the language and take advantage of the services?

reason i ask is cuz i asked this female (who happens to be mexican but has a white name IMO)
and i asked everyone else in the room who wasnt mexican but her

so the only person gettin offended was the mexican person....coincidence maybe? lol


i asked everyone the same question
only person to get offended was her and she said not all mexicans are that way
but alot of them are if not a majority of them
its not english bein the language of this country anymore, but its spanish
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live in?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on November 24, 2009, 01:26:49 PM
i think you should, it only makes sense.  i know if i moved 2 Mexico or China i gotsta learn that shit or else i aint staying for long.  that's how u get got
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live in?
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on November 24, 2009, 01:32:05 PM
damn you actually made sense for once
but yeah jus seems like certain races...i guess mainly hispanics are tryna jus get it made as easy for them all the way
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live in?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on November 24, 2009, 01:47:41 PM
damn you actually made sense for once
but yeah jus seems like certain races...i guess mainly hispanics are tryna jus get it made as easy for them all the way


every race has their own ignorance






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKXJJv_C3Gw
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live in?
Post by: Javier on November 24, 2009, 02:16:39 PM
What do you think is going to happen when the 3rd, 4th generation latinos grow up?  You think they will speak Spanish more than English?  It's a non-issue.  I already have cousins that hardly speak Spanish and have trouble understanding the language.  You think their kids will even know how to say a word in Spanish?  Most likely not, unless they take Spanish classes in High School.  Forcing a country to make everyone speak a certain language is backward thinking IMO. It should be encouraged to speak more than one language. 
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live in?
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on November 24, 2009, 02:20:50 PM
nah im not sayin everyone should be forced to speak one language...never said that and thats not what i meant
im sayin the mexicans  (in this case before anyone hispanics get offended) seems like they dont want to learn the language in which most people in this country speak but want everythin this country has to offer

alot of people will tell you most of the time its hispanics that dont know how to speak or understand the language thats spoke over here except maybe the dollar sign of course
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live in?
Post by: Javier on November 24, 2009, 02:46:47 PM
nah im not sayin everyone should be forced to speak one language...never said that and thats not what i meant
im sayin the mexicans  (in this case before anyone hispanics get offended) seems like they dont want to learn the language in which most people in this country speak but want everythin this country has to offer

alot of people will tell you most of the time its hispanics that dont know how to speak or understand the language thats spoke over here except maybe the dollar sign of course

Again, I point to the fact that 3rd, 4th, and eventually 5th generation latinos will not know Spanish as well as they know English, this is key right here because eventually the younger crowd will be larger, think about the future effects of it.  It's a non-issue.  There might be people pretending that they don't know English just to avoid talking to people lol.  My dad who knows English very well gets telemarketer calls where he tells them, "I don't speak English" just to avoid them. 
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live in?
Post by: QuietTruth on November 25, 2009, 09:52:14 AM
i think you should, it only makes sense.  i know if i moved 2 Mexico or China i gotsta learn that shit or else i aint staying for long.  that's how u get got
Word up.


This is America speak English. :D



If I done moved to China, I'd think it'd be my responsibility to learn Chinese.
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live in?
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on November 25, 2009, 11:55:01 AM
I dont think it should ever be MANDATORY. But if you come from another country, you also shouldnt expect that people adapt to YOU.  If I went to Mexico, and didnt speak any Spanish Id fully expect to not be able to communicate with anybody.  The government cant make it mandatory though, thats bullshit. Bein here in SD, I always hate when Mexicans come accross get pissed cus you dont speak Spanish lol. 
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live in?
Post by: the ghost on November 25, 2009, 01:54:51 PM
It should be encouraged to speak more than one language. 

I like this thought.  the two years we Americans have to take in HS is b.s.  Other countries have kids taking 6-8 years of English.  Look at all the posters here from other countries that you would never know they weren't native speakers until you see the soccer pics;)
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live in?
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on November 25, 2009, 02:15:54 PM
It should be encouraged to speak more than one language. 

I like this thought.  the two years we Americans have to take in HS is b.s.  Other countries have kids taking 6-8 years of English.  Look at all the posters here from other countries that you would never know they weren't native speakers until you see the soccer pics;)

I think our schools need to work on teaching kids how to speak English first lol
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live in?
Post by: Furor Teutonicus on November 25, 2009, 02:25:04 PM
It should be encouraged to speak more than one language. 

I like this thought. the two years we Americans have to take in HS is b.s.  Other countries have kids taking 6-8 years of English.  Look at all the posters here from other countries that you would never know they weren't native speakers until you see the soccer pics;)

The important thing is to start as early as possible. In the first 4-5 years, kids can learn any language. After that, they slowly lose the ability  due to changes in the brain.  Starting to learn a language in High School is bullshit.
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live in?
Post by: QuietTruth on November 25, 2009, 07:12:26 PM
It should be encouraged to speak more than one language. 

I like this thought.  the two years we Americans have to take in HS is b.s.  Other countries have kids taking 6-8 years of English.  Look at all the posters here from other countries that you would never know they weren't native speakers until you see the soccer pics;)

For real. How the hell do all these outta-country posters speak fluent English....even better than us. :-\
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live in?
Post by: J.D. Wykid, Esq. on November 25, 2009, 08:53:47 PM
mandatory?  no. 
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live in?
Post by: Shallow on November 25, 2009, 11:07:00 PM
I think it's up to the country to decide what the best interests of the country are with regards to language. In Canada the government deemed it law to promote the french language on the english side of the country in order for Canadians to remember the french roots of Canada. But if you live outside of Quebec you almost never speak french and can't understand a lick of it. So making a language law doesn't really mean anything.

Javier was right when he said it really means nothing in the end. The children of immigrants are usually fluent in the language of the country and their children can barely speak the old language period. I'm Greek and in Toronto most Greeks are either immigrants or children of immigrants. We speak Greek here very well. In Greek town the street signs have Greek names underneath the English signs but I can't think of one Greek/Canadian I know that grew up here whose Greek is better than his English. And the Greeks I meet from outside Toronto or from the US, the young adults, often speak no Greek at all. I met Greek family from Denver once last summer. They decided to visit the Church and I see what looked like an old Greek man with his grandchildren I greeted him in Greek "γειά σου θείο. Τι κάνεις". Him and the kids looked at me like I was an alien. In their Greek churches it's all English. The old guy was born in Chicago and moved to Denver. This guys dad fought off the Italians for Greece in WW2, and later the communists, just like my grandfather, but he couldn't speak a lick of it; growing up in Illinois and Colorado.
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live in?
Post by: thisoneguy360 on November 26, 2009, 01:10:06 AM
You SHOULD be able to, it only makes sense, but mandatory? Nah.
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live in?
Post by: Nutty on November 26, 2009, 01:16:10 AM
You SHOULD be able to, it only makes sense, but mandatory? Nah.

What do you think is going to happen when the 3rd, 4th generation latinos grow up?  You think they will speak Spanish more than English?  It's a non-issue.  I already have cousins that hardly speak Spanish and have trouble understanding the language.  You think their kids will even know how to say a word in Spanish?  Most likely not, unless they take Spanish classes in High School.  Forcing a country to make everyone speak a certain language is backward thinking IMO. It should be encouraged to speak more than one language. 

You're right. Language & traditions will be lost, 2, 3 generations down the track.
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live in?
Post by: K.Dub on November 26, 2009, 04:13:41 AM
Yep, I think it should be mandatory.
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live in?
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on November 28, 2009, 11:13:11 AM
Yes country and or province!!!
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live
Post by: ThaRealSupreme on November 28, 2009, 07:21:29 PM
Hell yea, it should me mandatory.
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live in?
Post by: K.Dub on November 29, 2009, 01:37:50 PM
Yes country and or province!!!

You speak French too?
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live in?
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on November 30, 2009, 04:08:09 PM
so what about alot of the people that are here dont speak english?
what should happen to them, or when they say como se illama etc...en english you jus ignore them?
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live in?
Post by: LooN3y on November 30, 2009, 04:10:31 PM
yes, period.


basically just think about all the hispanic, asian, etc, that cant speak english or have a heavy accent. its horrible u cant understand shit.
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live in?
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on November 30, 2009, 04:14:59 PM
thats what im sayin
i used to always feel bad for the non-english speakin people but damn im tired of translatin or others not knowin
and its different say if i go to another country where they speak another language and im there to visit but alotta these muffuccaz LIVE HERE
THEY FUCKIN LIVE HERE AND ITS LIKE THE ONLY LANGUAGE THEY KNOW IS $$$$$$
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live in?
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on December 03, 2009, 12:53:12 PM
yes, period.


basically just think about all the hispanic, asian, etc, that cant speak english or have a heavy accent. its horrible u cant understand shit.

Asians dont bother me as much as Mexicans.  Maybe cus Im not FORCED to deal with their non English, and Mexicans sometimes act like we are SUPPOSED to understand wtf theyre talkin about.  Shit, this is San Diego, you cant hit up a Jack in the Crack for shit without the chick in the drive thru askin you if you want cheese on your "Yumbo Yack".
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live
Post by: ThaRealSupreme on December 03, 2009, 01:08:16 PM
yes, period.


basically just think about all the hispanic, asian, etc, that cant speak english or have a heavy accent. its horrible u cant understand shit.

Asians dont bother me as much as Mexicans.  Maybe cus Im not FORCED to deal with their non English, and Mexicans sometimes act like we are SUPPOSED to understand wtf theyre talkin about.  Shit, this is San Diego, you cant hit up a Jack in the Crack for shit without the chick in the drive thru askin you if you want cheese on your "Yumbo Yack".

lol
Title: Re: should it be mandatory to speak the language of the country you wish to live
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on December 04, 2009, 06:36:09 PM
lol
for real its as if we have to understand them when everyone has to learn the same language to get around



yes, period.


basically just think about all the hispanic, asian, etc, that cant speak english or have a heavy accent. its horrible u cant understand shit.

Asians dont bother me as much as Mexicans.  Maybe cus Im not FORCED to deal with their non English, and Mexicans sometimes act like we are SUPPOSED to understand wtf theyre talkin about.  Shit, this is San Diego, you cant hit up a Jack in the Crack for shit without the chick in the drive thru askin you if you want cheese on your "Yumbo Yack".

lol