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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: ironmike on December 15, 2009, 04:25:30 PM
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http://hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi
CHART DATE: 12/14/2009
LAST UPDATE: 12/15/2009 13:06:12
NOW IN: FINAL
1 1 SUSAN BOYLE COLUMBIA 582,724 +14%
I DREAMED A DREAM
2 2 ANDREA BOCELLI DECCA 391,686 -10%
MY CHRISTMAS
-- 3 GLEE VOL. 2 COLUMBIA 171,580 --
SOUNDTRACK
3 4 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 165,311 +27%
FEARLESS
9 5 CARRIE UNDERWOOD 19/ARISTA NASHVILLE 110,352 +46%
PLAY ON
-- 6 CHRIS BROWN JIVE/JLG 102,489 --
GRAFFITI
7 7 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 102,108 +29%
FAME
12 8 JUSTIN BIEBER ISLAND/IDJMG 101,256 +56%
MY WORLD
8 9 MICHAEL BUBLE REPRISE 92,174 +19%
CRAZY LOVE
23 10 GLEE CAST COLUMBIA 89,905 +107%
GLEE, VOL. 1
-- 11 GUCCI MANE WARNER BROS. 89,166 --
STATE VS. RADRIC DAVIS
11 12 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 81,903 +24%
THIS IS IT
10 13 NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL MUSIC SONY MUSIC 78,030 +12%
NOW 32
6 14 NORAH JONES BLUE NOTE 75,698 -4%
THE FALL
-- 15 THIRTY SECONDS TO MARS VIRGIN/EMI 71,616 --
THIS IS WAR
15 16 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 71,414 +18%
FAME MONSTER (EP)
14 17 TWILIGHT SAGA: NEW MOON CHOP SHOP/ATLANTIC 71,044 +12%
SOUNDTRACK
13 18 JOSH GROBAN REPRISE 70,577 +11%
NOEL
-- 19 JIMMY BUFFETT MAILBOAT 68,506 --
BUFFET HOTEL
22 20 BLACK EYED PEAS INTERSCOPE 64,937 +29%
E.N.D. (ENERGY NEVER DIES)
20 21 MILEY CYRUS HOLLYWOOD 62,140 +20%
TIME OF OUR LIVES
-- 22 SNOOP DOGG PRIORITY/EMI 61,104 --
MALICE 'N WONDERLAND
5 23 CASTING CROWNS PROVIDENT/REUNION 58,756 -26%
PEACE ON EARTH
26 24 LADY ANTEBELLUM CAPITOL NASHVILLE 58,376 +44%
LADY ANTEBELLUM
16 25 STING DEUTSCHE GRAMMOPHON 54,006 -6%
IF ON A WINTER'S NIGHT
19 26 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 51,291 -3%
HOLIDAY COLLECTION
17 27 JOHN MAYER COLUMBIA 50,759 -7%
BATTLE STUDIES
18 28 RIHANNA DEF JAM/IDJ 50,408 -6%
RATED R
27 29 OWL CITY UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 46,949 +17%
OCEAN EYES
21 30 ADAM LAMBERT 19/RCA/RMG 45,825 -10%
FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT
32 31 TIM MCGRAW CURB 43,748 +21%
SOUTHERN VOICE
28 32 CASTING CROWNS PROVIDENT/REUNION 42,462 +11%
UNTIL THE WHOLE WORLD HEARS
37 33 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 41,230 +36%
NUMBER ONES
25 34 TRANS-SIBERIAN ORCHESTRA LAVA/ATLANTIC 41,007 0%
NIGHT CASTLE
24 35 SUGARLAND MERCURY NASHVILLE 39,917 -8%
GOLD & GREEN
-- 36 TIMBALAND BLACKGROUND/UNIV MOTOWN 37,834 --
SHOCK VALUE II
38 37 ZAC BROWN BAND ATLANTIC 37,672 +29%
FOUNDATION
31 38 ALVIN & THE CHIPMUNKS RHINO 37,378 +3%
THE SQUEAKQUEL
43 39 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 36,602 +40%
TAYLOR SWIFT
-- 40 STRAIGHT NO CHASER ATLANTIC 35,819 --
CHRISTMAS CHEERS
36 41 MANNHEIM STEAMROLLER AMERICAN GRAMAPHONE 35,652 +16%
CHRISTMAS: 25TH ANNIVERSARY
41 42 BON JOVI ISLAND/IDJMG 35,261 +30%
THE CIRCLE
4 43 R. KELLY JIVE/JLG 34,112 -71%
UNTITLED
45 44 JASON ALDEAN BROKEN BOW 32,603 +29%
WIDE OPEN
29 45 MICHAEL BUBLE REPRISE 31,681 -16%
LET IT SNOW
30 46 SHAKIRA EPIC 30,500 -17%
SHE WOLF
48 47 DARIUS RUCKER CAPITOL NASHVILLE 29,997 +33%
LEARN TO LIVE
-- 48 CLIPSE COLUMBIA 29,875 --
TIL THE CASKET DROPS
33 49 DAVID ARCHULETA 19/JIVE/ZLG 29,639 -17%
CHRISTMAS FROM THE HEART
44 50 TRANS-SIBERIAN ORCHESTRA LAVA/ATLANTIC 29,615 +15%
LOST CHRISTMAS EVE
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jay-z's & 50cent's albums are out of the top 50
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damn week numbers for hip hop :(
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Damn that's fucked up seeing all that crap ahead of Snoop on hos opening week. Its obvious most of Snoops fanbase has lost trust in him to put out dope music nowadays...
Shit,even Lady Gagas old cd sold more than his debut for MNW
SNOOP...Time to start making real shit again and re-connect with your fanbase!!!
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no shock with the sales
hip hop is dead
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Damn that's fucked up seeing all that crap ahead of Snoop on hos opening week. Its obvious most of Snoops fanbase has lost trust in him to put out dope music nowadays...
Shit,even Lady Gagas old cd sold more than his debut for MNW
SNOOP...Time to start making real shit again and re-connect with your fanbase!!!
Its sad to see so much trash ahead of snoopy, i hope he will sell more cause he made one helluva promo for himself lately.
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where is BG? it was said he was gonna outsell Timbaland/Clipse and be not too far behind Snoop.
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he's on koch. they're known to fuck up with their distribution, of not gettin enough cd's on the store shelves.
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he's on koch. they're known to fuck up with their distribution, of not gettin enough cd's on the store shelves.
but the first week sales report said he'd come in with 60K ???
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yeh, i dunno.
he was initially on there at no.43 , with 11,411 copies @ 37.17% of sales in .
then after that, he dropped off the top 50, once more sales figures came in
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no shock with the sales
Snoop dogg fell off over ten years ago and this album sucked dick.
FIXED
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I feel bad for all 61,104 of the idiots who wasted money on that piece of shit.
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I'm glad the album is flopping.
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Wake up call for Snoopy!!
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Has piracy really hurt hip hop numbers that bad?
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I still like snoop and think he has a really dope flow, but I haven't like his solo albums for a long time now. In fact I haven't even downloaded this one, nor have I heard a single leaked track ahead of time, or any that didn't make the album. Well actually I did hear that one, snoop dogg millionaire one...and thought it was complete garbage.
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the clipse deserved to do better numbers, but everything else seems about right
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the clipse deserved to do better numbers, but everything else seems about right
Classic lack of promo from Columbia
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Has piracy really hurt hip hop numbers that bad?
YES!
it sucks.
also, this album isnt that good. i will give 1 sold record for his 2nd week and im not happy at all. liked the first 3 songs (tracks 2,3,4) then it sucks besides #10 secrets with kokane.
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Has piracy really hurt hip hop numbers that bad?
hip hop is simply wack nowadays. all these recently best albums of the year are nowhere near early 2000's era. i'm not even talking about 90's.
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Its true. Who really wants to buy a Snoop album like MIW? Its far from inventive and has very few standout tracks. The Clipse were under shipped but aren't a huge act now. Timbos was directed at the pop market but nobody seemed to realise it was out/didn't care.
If hip-hop wants to sell its gotta be more innovative. 'European Jay' sold platinum plus and people like Wayne, Drake and Kanye all can put up good numbers cause they push the boundaries of mainstream rap a bit. I'm not saying everyone has to to sound part retarded like Wayne or sing in autotune like Kanye but look at how Jay and TI pushed units by doing corny songs with Rihanna or in TIs case singing.
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no shock with the sales
hip hop is dead
no it's not, the public just doesn't like the music.
maybe you should have bought more than 100 copies
Has piracy really hurt hip hop numbers that bad?
nope.
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wheres fiddy....lol
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If this trend continues made my hopes will be answered and black music will be forced to move away from boring RnB and weak hip hop and into something more interesting (and hopefully more funky)!
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Damn Susan Boyle is cakin'.
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I feel bad for all 61,104 of the idiots who wasted money on that piece of shit.
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damn R. Kelly 40,000 copies ? Clipse 20k damn , 50 Cent BISD - Not on the charts ?? LOL
Gucci Mane 80k ? With all the radio and tv play .. FLOP
Snoop - 60k Worst snoop dogg debut on charts ever
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no shock with the sales
this album is TRASH
FIXED
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Albums aiight.. Some of the traks are pretty weak.. Snoops supposed to be tallkin bout it in an interview tonight on fuse tv at 7.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8v396ExCaQ
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What are his lowest sales of an album till now ?
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What are his lowest sales of an album till now ?
I think Ego Trippin' was his lowest before this bullshit - it have sold around 130k in the first week and reach gold if I remember correctly..
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Damn Susan Boyle is cakin'.
Correction, Simon Cowell is cakin'
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Snoops trying to please all his *wide* fanbase...and hit em up with a newer sound.
Some of it woks but the albums a bit of a mish mash as a result.
So many fuckers who want to hear good material from Snoop would *never* buy a CD from him anyway...no wonder the sales are so low.
I bought this without hearing the full leaked album, if anything just for the bangers on it that already publicly leaked. I want to bump it properly to decide if I like it. I'm a Snoop fan so why not?
Bottom line is rap is dead if people don't support these artists. I want a good album yes, but I also support Snoopy for his constant hard work and supplying countless free quality tracks all year round, and pushing acts like Kurupt, The Warzone and Dubb Union etc.
Sermon over :D
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album was terrible thats why sales are low, bring back goldie loc
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Snoops trying to please all his *wide* fanbase...and hit em up with a newer sound.
Some of it woks but the albums a bit of a mish mash as a result.
So many fuckers who want to hear good material from Snoop would *never* buy a CD from him anyway...no wonder the sales are so low.
I bought this without hearing the full leaked album, if anything just for the bangers on it that already publicly leaked. I want to bump it properly to decide if I like it. I'm a Snoop fan so why not?
Bottom line is rap is dead if people don't support these artists. I want a good album yes, but I also support Snoopy for his constant hard work and supplying countless free quality tracks all year round, and pushing acts like Kurupt, The Warzone and Dubb Union etc.
Sermon over :D
If you buy an album its a show of support to the product you've purchased. If Snoop released an album I thought was brilliant I'd buy it as would many others. Not many people thought MIW was worth supporting hence why it flopped/ Its not about just buying it for the artists sake. Maybe for a no name up and comer but Snoops got millions.
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album was terrible thats why sales are low, bring back goldie loc
where the fuck is he?
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Exactly snoop is a millionaire us fans that are tired of purchasing weak albums arent gonna end his career. Besides why should i support a album he puts out when it seems like he's half assing his work and cheating fans by putting together a 12 song album with tracks that are 5 yr old left over from other albums. When I hear or read about another snoop album that seems like a return to form snoop then i will go out and buy it until then im done purchasing. ego trippin was enough for me.
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That Susan Boyle joint goes hard... well harder than Snoop's album anyway
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Snoops trying to please all his *wide* fanbase...and hit em up with a newer sound.
Some of it woks but the albums a bit of a mish mash as a result.
So many fuckers who want to hear good material from Snoop would *never* buy a CD from him anyway...no wonder the sales are so low.
I bought this without hearing the full leaked album, if anything just for the bangers on it that already publicly leaked. I want to bump it properly to decide if I like it. I'm a Snoop fan so why not?
Bottom line is rap is dead if people don't support these artists. I want a good album yes, but I also support Snoopy for his constant hard work and supplying countless free quality tracks all year round, and pushing acts like Kurupt, The Warzone and Dubb Union etc.
Sermon over :D
if i want to waste money quickly, i'd flush the toilet
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im really suprised he sold that much.snoop fell off,i listen to th eold snoop and be like damn,ho whe go from that to this.i wonna support snoop,but i just cant support that wack shit.
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Guess he better put that soulja boy song out as the thrid single? or maybe the one with Pharell??
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;D lol at people if he had made a full gangsta album, he would have sold the same.. Hiphop is deeply hurt by leaks, some off lil waynes preordered albums on amazon was leaked to the public and his albums are due out to february 2010.
You cant compare Gucci mane and Snoop sales realy, This is cucci manes first mainstream album. His album sales are weak...
And 2 compare susan boyles sales with Snoops thats stupid realy, she got a huge buzz on youtube. Her album buyers are an older crowd .
Anyway Snoop have 2 singles that is about to blow up on chart, so there is still hope
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^ Raekwon sold more copies than Snoop and he released a purely hardcore east coast album. If Snoop released something as good as that he would've sold more. The 60,000 fans that bought it will still probably buy a gangster Snoop album cause this shows that they'll buy anything Snoop releases.
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the clipse deserved to do better numbers, but everything else seems about right
^^^ I AGREE
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Records sell these days based on what is fashionable. People go on what's rammed at them by the media, or virally spread to them (still by the media). How else would Cheryl Cole top the charts? ::)
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i guess thats not bad but damn thats gotta be a all time low for a super star rapper unless hes moved less which i doubt
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Has piracy the internet really hurt hip hop numbers that bad?
fixed
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The songs I like off Snoop's new album are:
I wanna rock
1800
Gangsta Luv
and Protocol could've been on there somehow maybe as an intro like g-funk/bathtub intro.
I think B.G's album was good, I heard it did just about 20,000, does anyone have those numbers. B.G's cool, he's got my support from when he hosted a mixtape for me in '07. Timbalands album was cool too. I like the song he has w/ Chad Kroeger. When is Nipsey's coming out?! 12.22.09 right?! South Central state of Mizzy, or did it get pushed back?
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I feel bad for all 61,104 of the idiots who wasted money on that piece of shit.
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you can tell that leaks and free downloads are killing the corporate music labels haha i knew this shit was gonna happen in time. 50 cent notices now that its not the same anymore he wasnt gonna reach the numbers he thought not even close same with snoop the game has changed big time its either you sell that bubble gum crap you hear on the radio with good hooks but crappy lyrics or you keep doing what youve always done like everyone else and watch sales drop off like snoop an 50. what i think all these rappers with a name should do is just say fuck it an go indipendent make all the moneythemselves cuzz being signed to a label like snoop or 50 man they not even makin half the profit and with sales numbers down shit they aint makin jack shit really! daz got the right idea he still makin his paper on the side doing indipendent albums and maybe a major release every now an then but hes always on the grind same as a lot of other big name artists doin shit indi! sell that shit digital style make all the dough yourself or at least the majority of it. its only gonna get worse from here record companies are about to feel it in the next few years there gonna be fucked!
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no shock with the sales
hip hop is dead
true. if he record some good album it will be on top. wack shit never be on top, look at first game he was #1 on charts because his album is waay better than snoop's album... too bad because snoop is a (or was) a real dope MC.
He's Tha DoggFather for fuck's sake!
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I just wish snoop would do a solid straight hip hop album no soft poppy r&b auto tune crap. I aint even asking for g-funk just him spittin, doing his own hooks and not a whole lotta gues features. I don't think thats askin for much
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Gucci Mane - sells 80k will mainstream radio play and tv .. FLOP
Clipse - Till The Casket Drops - TV play 20k Bigtime Flop
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I feel bad for all 61,104 of the idiots who wasted money on that piece of shit.
Nah actually I feel pretty good fellas.
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I feel bad for all 61,104 of the idiots who wasted money on that piece of shit.
Nah actually I feel pretty good fellas.
lol :laugh:
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There were like 2 or 3 good songs on the album, so numbers aren't surprising at all
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I just wish snoop would do a solid straight hip hop album no soft poppy r&b auto tune crap. I aint even asking for g-funk just him spittin, doing his own hooks and not a whole lotta gues features. I don't think thats askin for much
yes it is asking much . it seems you donb't realy know who snoop is . snoop dogg is R&B . snoop dogg grew up On 1960's & 70's R&B & funk. so snoop will always go thay sound anymore because when you get older you go back to your roots. snoop dogg has always had alot of guest feature since the first album..
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I just wish snoop would do a solid straight hip hop album no soft poppy r&b auto tune crap. I aint even asking for g-funk just him spittin, doing his own hooks and not a whole lotta gues features. I don't think thats askin for much
yes it is asking much . it seems you donb't realy know who snoop is . snoop dogg is R&B . snoop dogg grew up On 1960's & 70's R&B & funk. so snoop will always go thay sound anymore because when you get older you go back to your roots. snoop dogg has always had alot of guest feature since the first album..
Yeah i guess i dont know who snoop dogg really is guy. The snoop dogg that put out solid albums like doggystyle, doggfather, top dogg, last meal and blue carpet treatment right? Cause those albums all sounded sooo r&b lol....he has more hip hop sounding albums then r&b buddy you must be paying attention to the snoop dogg from r&g and up.
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real talk quiksta80
bring on snoop's 11th solo album "doggumentary" , with dr dre producing 3 or 4 tracks, and daz, soopafly, warren g, battlecat, fredwreck, meech, dj pooh doing the rest of the beats, with the album mixed and executive produced by dr dre, and only dogg pound family features, and maybe some other dope L.A. rappers like ice cube
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this album sucked major ass
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MIA isn't too bad. Like it much better than Ego Trippin for sure.
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each to their own, everyone has different musical tastes.
i thought Ego Trippin' was a really solid album ...
but each time a new Snoop album comes out, it is compared it to Doggystyle and smashed on.
I'll listen to Malice a few more times to see what I think of it in a month or so ...
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MIA isn't too bad. Like it much better than Ego Trippin for sure.
You gotta be kidding me - Ego Trippin' shits on this bullshit ass album all the way..! You got 3 really good songs on "Malice N Wonderland":
- I Wanna Rock
- Different Languages
- Secrets
Now 2 of these tracks are leftovers from previous albums - tracks from "Ego Trippin" like "Neva Have 2 Worry" or "Press Play" sounds waaay better than any track that was actually MADE for "Malice"..
Face it dude - it's the worst LP from Snoop, album's really trash..
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MIA isn't too bad. Like it much better than Ego Trippin for sure.
You gotta be kidding me - Ego Trippin' shits on this bullshit ass album all the way..! You got 3 really good songs on "Malice N Wonderland":
- I Wanna Rock
- Different Languages
- Secrets
Now 2 of these tracks are leftovers from previous albums
Which 2 are leftovers?
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good cd
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the album is shit so im not shocked
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protocol and world of a gangsta would have made this album better.
secrets is banging
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People, please stop blaming downloading on shitty album sales. That's the excuse that mainstream label execs use so they aren't held accountable for putting out bullshit music.
I haven't bought a Snoop album since Last Meal and that album was half dope half wack. Well ever since then, Snoops shit has been just that, shit.
I'm lovin all these mainstream flops, the quicker the mainstream labels fold the better off everyone will be. Peace
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People, please stop blaming downloading on shitty album sales. That's the excuse that mainstream label execs use so they aren't held accountable for putting out bullshit music.
I haven't bought a Snoop album since Last Meal and that album was half dope half wack. Well ever since then, Snoops shit has been just that, shit.
I'm lovin all these mainstream flops, the quicker the mainstream labels fold the better off everyone will be. Peace
last meal was very dope. BCT was a very good album too. common'
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People, please stop blaming downloading on shitty album sales. That's the excuse that mainstream label execs use so they aren't held accountable for putting out bullshit music.
I haven't bought a Snoop album since Last Meal and that album was half dope half wack. Well ever since then, Snoops shit has been just that, shit.
I'm lovin all these mainstream flops, the quicker the mainstream labels fold the better off everyone will be. Peace
I agree with the latter statement but to say sales arent down because of downloading is just downright ignorant.I know a lot of people that havent bought a cd in years and it doesnt matter if its their favorite album by their favorite artist,they still download it.
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MIA isn't too bad. Like it much better than Ego Trippin for sure.
You gotta be kidding me - Ego Trippin' shits on this bullshit ass album all the way..! You got 3 really good songs on "Malice N Wonderland":
- I Wanna Rock
- Different Languages
- Secrets
Now 2 of these tracks are leftovers from previous albums
Which 2 are leftovers?
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MIA isn't too bad. Like it much better than Ego Trippin for sure.
You gotta be kidding me - Ego Trippin' shits on this bullshit ass album all the way..! You got 3 really good songs on "Malice N Wonderland":
- I Wanna Rock
- Different Languages
- Secrets
Now 2 of these tracks are leftovers from previous albums
Which 2 are leftovers?
"Secrets" was made like 5 years ago durning R&G sessions with the OG version being a Kokane solo track while "Different Languages" is a Ego Trippin' leftover..
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MIA isn't too bad. Like it much better than Ego Trippin for sure.
You gotta be kidding me - Ego Trippin' shits on this bullshit ass album all the way..! You got 3 really good songs on "Malice N Wonderland":
- I Wanna Rock
- Different Languages
- Secrets
Now 2 of these tracks are leftovers from previous albums
Which 2 are leftovers?
"Secrets" was made like 5 years ago durning R&G sessions with the OG version being a Kokane solo track while "Different Languages" is a Ego Trippin' leftover..
I'm not sure that Secrets was initially meant to be a Snoop Dogg song tho
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MIA isn't too bad. Like it much better than Ego Trippin for sure.
You gotta be kidding me - Ego Trippin' shits on this bullshit ass album all the way..! You got 3 really good songs on "Malice N Wonderland":
- I Wanna Rock
- Different Languages
- Secrets
Now 2 of these tracks are leftovers from previous albums
Which 2 are leftovers?
"Secrets" was made like 5 years ago durning R&G sessions with the OG version being a Kokane solo track while "Different Languages" is a Ego Trippin' leftover..
diff lang is not a leftover. it was rec during the malice sessions.
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Was the Kokane solo a released track?
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I wish I was an A&R for this album.. oh well!!
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I have been listening to Snoop Dogg since I was in High school...........when he first came out..... that is a very long time.... I am from the days of Rap Pages....
some of you may not even know or heard of Rap Pages...... I have an autograph copy of snoop when he was on that cover......
we all grow and something that everybody should understand that change is constant...... I wouldnt want to sit there and listen to snoop dogg say he doesn't love dem ho's for 8 albums straight........ 10 14 30 albums......... its redundant..... yea not everything snoop does is good, but the majority of it is bangin.... what i have learned from this latest CD, which is TOP quality is that he has grown.... maybe some of you havent actually listened to the lyrics....... snoop is talking about being in love... with his kids and his wife and just life in general... this is not some LSG, Boyz II Men type of love music this is street love from the hood, know where you come from music... for grown azz adults and ears..... I didn't love ho's back in the day either, and now I have two beautiful kids a wonderful woman, and we both love this CD...... Luvv Drunk is our song, and you have to be able to relate to the mind frame that snoop is at right now... It is Malice.... its nothing nice, ..... now I dont agree with that soldier boy son, whatever it is called, but the rest grew on me.... blue carpet treatment was just that..hardcore...super gangsta... this is laid back smoothed out for grown folks..... its not going to be DoggyStyle or Top Dogg or last meal..... If you cant grow as an artist... then you will remain the same and you will forgotten...... sales dont make a record anymore... we should all know that.. good artist dont always sell, and shitty artist do sell, and everything in between.... Snoop doesnt make records just for sales anymore, he is in another level of ballin status..... when you can travel around the world and your grandmother knows snoop like mine does and likes him..... sales wont matter... being relevant and relating to whats going on in your age range... like most of the lyrics state in his songs.... makes this one of thee best CD''s i have heard... .listen to the lyrics.... he has grown.....
The best lines of the album...
Snoopy never played the role for which he wasn't built for....
that line says it all...... pimpn' aint easy....
and he is not talkin about hoes.... he is talkin about pimpn life...... and he continues to do it until this day....
not riding his dick.......... know when to step your game up..... enough young cats to talk that hardcore stuff you like like Problem, and Game and others....
I am from the old school on this site, havent been on in years, but I used to KeyStyle Battle back in the day on this site.... many many ears ago....
holla atcha boy..... 8)
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Corporate music labels have yall so conditioned, you don't even know it. Got yall talkin about 1st week sales like it means a goddamn thing regarding how good the music is.
Many people fall victim to the same rationalizations of these majors - which is the result of a businessman, not a musician, dictating the sound and direction of these album from a traditional product based sales model instead of just focusing on dope music and letting the rest sort itself out.
Yall don't even know that it used to be commonplace to have albums often slowly and steadily working their way up the charts over months and months time....that was because when a great ALBUM was put out, people talked about it for a long time. It wasn't disposable shit that was played out after 2 listens.
I don't know, most peeps don't understand how the industry has purposely watered down true music into a "marketed product". The game as it is isn't structred for longevity....they think ringtones are where music is going, lol.
Snoop and many others let these labels dictate what they say, do, and act. It is what it is.
Regardless, this album is crap just like most everything from Snoop in a long ass time. He sold out long ago. I don't know how people don't see that.
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I wish I was an A&R for this album.. oh well!!
haha but i am...
peep da credits..
goin from the dub to doing this... its been a crazy ride.
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I wish I was an A&R for this album.. oh well!!
haha but i am...
peep da credits..
goin from the dub to doing this... its been a crazy ride.
I saw that man we have to work on something!! you have to get at me igot big plans for 2010 especially with this California MC im working with!
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Sir ham i aint a youngster myself im 30 yrs old and if you ask me this malice album aint a growth or maturity its snoop trying to do what appeals to the youngsters of today. I know some of the lyrical content in the album is about his kids and wife but cmon songs like pronto, upside down and gangsta luv...all that crap sounds like little kid music to me. You entitled to your own opinion im just stating how i feel about this album from another older fans perspective.
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real talk
Sir ham i aint a youngster myself im 30 yrs old and if you ask me this malice album aint a growth or maturity its snoop trying to do what appeals to the youngsters of today. I know some of the lyrical content in the album is about his kids and wife but cmon songs like pronto, upside down and gangsta luv...all that crap sounds like little kid music to me. You entitled to your own opinion im just stating how i feel about this album from another older fans perspective.
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People, please stop blaming downloading on shitty album sales. That's the excuse that mainstream label execs use so they aren't held accountable for putting out bullshit music.
I haven't bought a Snoop album since Last Meal and that album was half dope half wack. Well ever since then, Snoops shit has been just that, shit.
I'm lovin all these mainstream flops, the quicker the mainstream labels fold the better off everyone will be. Peace
exactly
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People, please stop blaming downloading on shitty album sales. That's the excuse that mainstream label execs use so they aren't held accountable for putting out bullshit music.
Nah, downloading is definitely killing the sales game... it's not like suddenly everyone became really picky about music and said no to bullshit... bullshit like MC Hammer, Vanilla Ice, Lil Wayne, etc has always sold well
Though I agree with you on this...
Corporate music labels have yall so conditioned, you don't even know it. Got yall talkin about 1st week sales like it means a goddamn thing regarding how good the music is.
Yall don't even know that it used to be commonplace to have albums often slowly and steadily working their way up the charts over months and months time....that was because when a great ALBUM was put out, people talked about it for a long time. It wasn't disposable shit that was played out after 2 listens.
People today really are like, "well the album is wack to me, but I respect the hustle because it's got songs for the grandmas and the toddlers", as if we're all meant to be on the fucking chairman's board or have shares in Universal Music or some shit...
Back in the day heads weren't afraid to call something wack, you could be selling millions, but if your music was wack you'd get no respect from real Hip-Hop fans, but today everyone is given a free pass because they're "getting their hustle on" or some bullshit
Co-sign about old albums creeping up too... I think Nas's Illmatic was a joint like that, it took like 5 years to go platinum, and still sold steadily ever since it dropped
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MIA isn't too bad. Like it much better than Ego Trippin for sure.
You gotta be kidding me - Ego Trippin' shits on this bullshit ass album all the way..! You got 3 really good songs on "Malice N Wonderland":
- I Wanna Rock
- Different Languages
- Secrets
Now 2 of these tracks are leftovers from previous albums
Which 2 are leftovers?
"Secrets" was made like 5 years ago durning R&G sessions with the OG version being a Kokane solo track while "Different Languages" is a Ego Trippin' leftover..
Pimpin aint Easy also is leftover from BCT...
Snoop doesnt make records just for sales anymore
Are you serious?
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Did Pimpin Aint Easy leak back then or was it written about? :)