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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: GATMAN on January 19, 2010, 04:00:42 PM
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http://www.devidev.com/2010/01/the-regulator/
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Warren G speakin' the truth. Kinda fucked up that shit went down the way it did back in the Death Row days.
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What's this? A video in 2010 where someone aint dissin' the next man? That's unique in itself
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJMTSS1K--4
After watching this I started to wonder why dre doesn't collaborate with warren g. I don't even think he came out on chronic 2001, maybe dre and snoop thin warren is wack?
Warren seems legitimately hurt about being excluded.
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damn g dubb hurt like a mutha....step it up g dubb and release some dope muzik like you once did
get over it g-dubb..lol
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step it up g dubb and release some dope muzik like you once did
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for real stop complainin bout somethin that you chose to do years ago, do whats good for right now cuz you cant go back into time
aite you werent involved more on any of dre's projects...so what?
you can make dope muzik wit out him...so do it but dont make that wack shit you made wit ray j and that other shit
DAMN RETURN OF THE REGULATOR IS CLASSIC
GAME DONT WAIT...damn g dubb for real tho
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this was a good interview.. I kinda feel bad for him. U can tell it bothers him a lil.
And to everybody saying he should stop complaining and get over it, give the man a little slack.
This guy's been getting asked these questions for the last 12 years, and he's always kept quiet and never said anything. He just talked about his new projects, and leaving the past behind him.. This is the one time, or at least the first I've ever heard a response like this.
Everybody has a couple of moments, when they think back on times in their life and get a lil emo.. I'm guessing, Warren had a some alcohol in his system, and the reporter just asked him a question, that brought back some memories.. and his response just flowed out. Do u guys really think he sits there all day every day thinking about what happened in 93'.. and is miserable
And honestly, he has always been kinda shitted on by his friends and family. Never got any credit for all the work he did on doggystyle, including the main melody for "aint no fun" and to me, the ultimate slap in the face was when they finally did a 213 album, they didn't let him do 1 beat on it!!! WHAT?? that was prob gonna be his dream finally coming true, to work with his 2 best friends and they didn't let him do what he shinned at. We all know rapping isn't his forte. And that was also a slap in the face of all the fans who had been waiting for that 213 album for years. Don't get me wrong, even though I was dissapointed at first listen, it did grow on me, and I consider it a pretty dope album, it was nowhere near as good as it should have been. It should have been Warren on the beats, Nate on the hooks, and Snoop rapping.
Ok, I'm just rambling now, but all I'm saying is.. Cut the guy a lil slack. Maybe he made a mistake, way back in the day.. Whatever, this is just one interview. It's easy for us to sit here and analyze his words, when people get in different moods on different days.. he jus answered the questions as honest as he could at the moment he was asked. I appreciate honest answers as opposed to the same interviews with the same artists getting asked the same questions giving the same answers over and over.
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g-dubb spits the truth!!
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then he shouldnt have done the 213 album
they wont let him put his beats on it...then dont do the album but dont do the album but then complain that it didnt turn out the way you wanted it to turn out
how you gon be mad that your beats arent on the album but still finish the album and put it out but then be mad about it in another department? lol
this was a good interview.. I kinda feel bad for him. U can tell it bothers him a lil.
And to everybody saying he should stop complaining and get over it, give the man a little slack.
This guy's been getting asked these questions for the last 12 years, and he's always kept quiet and never said anything. He just talked about his new projects, and leaving the past behind him.. This is the one time, or at least the first I've ever heard a response like this.
Everybody has a couple of moments, when they think back on times in their life and get a lil emo.. I'm guessing, Warren had a some alcohol in his system, and the reporter just asked him a question, that brought back some memories.. and his response just flowed out. Do u guys really think he sits there all day every day thinking about what happened in 93'.. and is miserable
And honestly, he has always been kinda shitted on by his friends and family. Never got any credit for all the work he did on doggystyle, including the main melody for "aint no fun" and to me, the ultimate slap in the face was when they finally did a 213 album, they didn't let him do 1 beat on it!!! WHAT?? that was prob gonna be his dream finally coming true, to work with his 2 best friends and they didn't let him do what he shinned at. We all know rapping isn't his forte. And that was also a slap in the face of all the fans who had been waiting for that 213 album for years. Don't get me wrong, even though I was dissapointed at first listen, it did grow on me, and I consider it a pretty dope album, it was nowhere near as good as it should have been. It should have been Warren on the beats, Nate on the hooks, and Snoop rapping.
Ok, I'm just rambling now, but all I'm saying is.. Cut the guy a lil slack. Maybe he made a mistake, way back in the day.. Whatever, this is just one interview. It's easy for us to sit here and analyze his words, when people get in different moods on different days.. he jus answered the questions as honest as he could at the moment he was asked. I appreciate honest answers as opposed to the same interviews with the same artists getting asked the same questions giving the same answers over and over.
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yeah ok.. That was his best shot at being relevant in the music scene again. U think he's gonna pass that up?
they made a descision to use other people's beats for financial reasons. I'm sure he was upset, but he had to roll with it.
Its not like they could have put out a snoop and nate dogg album and call it a 213 album.. no, that would have to be called a snoop dogg and nate dogg album.
No rapper in thier right mind would pass up a paycheck like that, especially if he hasn't been heard from by the majority of the non-westcoast world in years.
If it has snoop dogg's name on it, and a video playing on mtv or bet.. chances are, ur gonna want to get ur name, face and voice out there
lets just say, he did say, "fuck it.. I don't want to be a part of this" then, people would of thought he was a lil bitch for not getting his way. Lets face it, a 213 album is supposed to be a collective effort from 3 people.. but your fooling yourself if you think anybody but Snoop dogg made most if not all the executive descisons.
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Damn, Warren speaking from the heart...
I remember that shit with the 213 album too, real cold. It would be nice if Dre got word of this video.
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Warren already spoke on this several times before.
edit: although this is the first time for me that he says that he felt left behind by Dr.Dre :-\
still, he made a good decision when he went with Def Jam
After watching this I started to wonder why dre doesn't collaborate with warren g. I don't even think he came out on chronic 2001, maybe dre and snoop thin warren is wack?
Warren seems legitimately hurt about being excluded.
well Dre & Snoop like to make hits.
perhaps they think Warren G can't produce hit records ( any more)?
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Dre and Snoop never respected him as he deserved... why Dre told him "do yo thang" while he took 213's Snoop and Nate with him? And why Snoop didn't let him produce nothing on "The Hard Way"? Fuck 'em!
I respect Warren for what he did on his own, believe it or not but on 1997 he was bigger than Dre, Snoop and any rap artist here in Italy... he even came here to our biggest show (like the SuperBowl in America) where rappers were not "allowed", except Eminem years later.
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yeah, Warren has been asked about this several times before. But this is the first time he kinda gave an emotional answer, he spoke how he feels. maybe it was just an emo moment, but at least its real feelings and not politically correct answers.
And don't get me wrong, I think it was a good move for him to go by himself to Def Jam. He blew up kinda by himself. I mean, he was there with all of them, working on the Chronic and Doggystyle. But when it was time for his own solo project, he was pretty much on his own. And honestly, I think it was more of Suge's choice than anybody else.. It was Suge that wanted DeathRow to be more of an exclusive Record Company, where it was self effecient. Kinda like Motown, where it was just a team of producers, and artists working only for the Company. He didn't really let any DR inmate go be featured on non-deathrow albums back then.
Warren G's 1st album was a classic.. and it blew up big time, what was it like 3x platinum? Imagine if it had a 94' era Snoop Doggy Dogg in his prime featured on say like 2 or 3 tracks! Those smooth G Child tracks were basically taylor made for Snoopy back then. Or even dre helping out behind the boards.
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crazy shit for real... snoop has done warren fucked up
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suge knight never liked warren, cus he was talkin shit in Vibe magazine - which resulted in him gettin pulled from some deathrow-trax (like "let's play house") adn gettin x'd from future projects on Tha Row
so warren kinda fucked himself up like dat..
2pac saved his career though - not too many know that
i do agree dat warren was gettin treated bad by some of his peers though - but still it's a musicindustry - and only the strong survive
also, Warren G was the only nigga out the whole DPGC-bunch dat sold any records in Europe in the 90's. Dre and Snoop could only dream about the sucess Warren had wit his Def Jam-shit outside of US.. dat's why Dre said in an interview for "The show" documentary - dat if he knew he was gonna blow up the way he did, he probly would've fuckd wit him more in the first place
warren was a popstar in Europe in the 90's. yall member "prince igor" n the shit he did wit Peter andré?
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for real stop complainin bout somethin that you chose to do years ago, do whats good for right now cuz you cant go back into time
aite you werent involved more on any of dre's projects...so what?
you can make dope muzik wit out him...so do it but dont make that wack shit you made wit ray j and that other shit
DAMN RETURN OF THE REGULATOR IS CLASSIC
GAME DONT WAIT...damn g dubb for real tho
That I'd have to disagree with. Besides 3-4 "good" songs the album doesn't retain my interest all that much. It had the potential to be far better than what came out. It even had Dr Dre on there for the 2 that never work together. I wasn't expecting Regulate, but Take a Look over your shoulder, and I want It All are all superior
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good interview, thats some sad shit, big up warren g and much success to him
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Warren G the realest in the game......
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http://www.devidev.com/2010/01/the-regulator/
take a look over your shoulder is a classic 2me..yall sleeping on dat lp....and snoop should have had aleast 2or 3 G tracks on 213.
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og warren g been platinum been gold even after death row era he still went platinum with his 3rd album
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props, man warren g still seems down from that even though it happened a long time ago
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Warren G, RBX and Nate Dogg got treated like shit while everybody was on Death Row, that's fucked up since they were all a big family.
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DAMN RETURN OF THE REGULATOR IS CLASSIC
That I'd have to disagree with. Besides 3-4 "good" songs the album doesn't retain my interest all that much. It had the potential to be far better than what came out. It even had Dr Dre on there for the 2 that never work together. I wasn't expecting Regulate, but Take a Look over your shoulder, and I want It All are all superior
Phew, gotta respond to this one, 'cos Return of the Regulator is definitly my favorite Warren album! Never gets old! My favorite cuts:
- Lookin' at you
- Here comes another hit
- Somethin' to bounce to
- This Gangsta shit is too much
- Young loc's slow down
- Yo' Sassy ways
- It ain't nothing' wrong with you
- They Lovin' me now
- Streets of the LBC
To have this many tracks that I don't skip on a cd is pretty rare for me.
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for real i dont like that many songs on the album so it was classic for that time but not a classic all the way thru album...lol
but years later im still listenin to it and those sames traxx i was feelin them im feelin now
bangin album
bangin production
bangin lyrics
bangin features...for the most part
but it was updated version of warren g
but damn look at the muzik hes been puttin out lately....compared to then damn it makes his biggest hit regulate look bad....real bad but he did it not us cuz look when he releases a dope album we cop
i bought 3 of that return of the regulator and possibly more
DAMN RETURN OF THE REGULATOR IS CLASSIC
That I'd have to disagree with. Besides 3-4 "good" songs the album doesn't retain my interest all that much. It had the potential to be far better than what came out. It even had Dr Dre on there for the 2 that never work together. I wasn't expecting Regulate, but Take a Look over your shoulder, and I want It All are all superior
Phew, gotta respond to this one, 'cos Return of the Regulator is definitly my favorite Warren album! Never gets old! My favorite cuts:
- Lookin' at you
- Here comes another hit
- Somethin' to bounce to
- This Gangsta shit is too much
- Young loc's slow down
- Yo' Sassy ways
- It ain't nothing' wrong with you
- They Lovin' me now
- Streets of the LBC
To have this many tracks that I don't skip on a cd is pretty rare for me.
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for real i dont like that many songs on the album so it was classic for that time but not a classic all the way thru album...lol
I like most of the tracks of "Return Of The Regulator", i usually don't skip tracks just let it play all the way through.
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theres a few traxx that arent good IMO
but im not a fan of slow traxx but even the wc song is cool
but speed dreamin is fiyaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
the hook damn they killed that
but the album is bangin and like i said years later....its still bangin so it has classic material jus not all the way thru
my favorite warren g album
but he hasnt made this type of muzik since so he cant be complainin too much...lol
for real i dont like that many songs on the album so it was classic for that time but not a classic all the way thru album...lol
I like most of the tracks of "Return Of The Regulator", i usually don't skip tracks just let it play all the way through.
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the ultimate slap in the face was when they finally did a 213 album, they didn't let him do 1 beat on it!!! WHAT?? that was prob gonna be his dream finally coming true, to work with his 2 best friends and they didn't let him do what he shinned at. We all know rapping isn't his forte. And that was also a slap in the face of all the fans who had been waiting for that 213 album for years.
Don't forget that the promised remix album with all Warren G productions never came out either. It was a good album, but it was messed up for both Warren G and all the fans that he didn't produce one song. The 213 album came out 10 years too late, but that was no excuse.
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yeah, Warren has been asked about this several times before. But this is the first time he kinda gave an emotional answer, he spoke how he feels. maybe it was just an emo moment, but at least its real feelings and not politically correct answers.
And don't get me wrong, I think it was a good move for him to go by himself to Def Jam. He blew up kinda by himself. I mean, he was there with all of them, working on the Chronic and Doggystyle. But when it was time for his own solo project, he was pretty much on his own. And honestly, I think it was more of Suge's choice than anybody else.. It was Suge that wanted DeathRow to be more of an exclusive Record Company, where it was self effecient. Kinda like Motown, where it was just a team of producers, and artists working only for the Company. He didn't really let any DR inmate go be featured on non-deathrow albums back then.
Warren G's 1st album was a classic.. and it blew up big time, what was it like 3x platinum? Imagine if it had a 94' era Snoop Doggy Dogg in his prime featured on say like 2 or 3 tracks! Those smooth G Child tracks were basically taylor made for Snoopy back then. Or even dre helping out behind the boards.
that probably would have boosted the sales!
i told you Suge Knight made some stupid decisions
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Yeah, Warren didn't produce anythin' on the 213 album and it's really messed up that he didn't, i think it was Snoop's decision but anyway it was and still is a good album though. I think maybe Warren G always got shitted on cause he's "too humble" like he don't say nothin' against you if you do some shady shit to him, who knows? If he wouldn't have gone to Def Jam we would have missed a lot of classic shit. If he stayed on Death Row he prolly wouldn't even never put out an album. Did Dre and Suge ever even thought about lettin' him release an album on Death Row? Wasn't Rage's album supposed to be droppin' after "Doggystyle", and then Dogg Pound's album and RBX's?
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Yeah, Warren didn't produce anythin' on the 213 album and it's really messed up that he didn't, i think it was Snoop's decision but anyway it was and still is a good album though. I think maybe Warren G always got shitted on cause he's "too humble" like he don't say nothin' against you if you do some shady shit to him, who knows? If he wouldn't have gone to Def Jam we would have missed a lot of classic shit. If he stayed on Death Row he prolly wouldn't even never put out an album. Did Dre and Suge ever even thought about lettin' him release an album on Death Row? Wasn't Rage's album supposed to be droppin' after "Doggystyle", and then Dogg Pound's album and RBX's?
yeah i have that impression as well, he seems to be a peaceful dude.
he should just go back to the basics, cause the G-files is mostly bullshit
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he should just go back to the basics, cause the G-files is mostly bullshit[/color]
Yeah, for real. I wouldn't mind another "Return Of The Regulator". West Coast beats with an "updated" sound.
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Man, Warren G is keeping it 100.
Sad to see his latest music hasn't done too good, he is a good artist, always humble and not gossiping and beefing like the rest of them.
It's loyalty man, I know Snoop did rep him back then, but Dre acted like he was ashamed of him of something.
And well Suge slapped him.
Warrens first album sold over 4 mill, and he didn't have Suge Knight to take all his money, so I'd say he definently had his dough alright.
I don't understand why know one is fucking with his beats, he is a dope producer.
And like that guy said, he was huge in Europe in the mid 90's, that Prince Igor, was a mayor hit, on the level with Regulator's.
So i'd say you've done more than alright man, without Dre and Snoop, and should be proud of it.
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Woa I got choked up watching Tha G Child like dat.
In the UK Regulate is one of those rare crossover tracks that everyone loves, like Gangsters Paradise & Hotstepper.
Still gets banged out at clubs/parties like every single weekend.
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listen to the shit he's been dropping recently, SHIT IS FUCKING WACK AS HELL
his production sucks now and he stop rapping his smooth flow
he suck now, harsh reality
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Yeah, Warren didn't produce anythin' on the 213 album and it's really messed up that he didn't, i think it was Snoop's decision but anyway it was and still is a good album though. I think maybe Warren G always got shitted on cause he's "too humble" like he don't say nothin' against you if you do some shady shit to him, who knows? If he wouldn't have gone to Def Jam we would have missed a lot of classic shit. If he stayed on Death Row he prolly wouldn't even never put out an album. Did Dre and Suge ever even thought about lettin' him release an album on Death Row? Wasn't Rage's album supposed to be droppin' after "Doggystyle", and then Dogg Pound's album and RBX's?
Nate dogg, althought he was heavy featured on death row albums didn't have his chance to put his solo record out on death row and had to leave after a long feud. The record was out in 98 and been slept on cause g funk wasn't the trend anymore..
So there's no way Warren G could have put a record on death row. Def Jam was the best thing that hapened to him and leaving without beefing with snoop and the rest of the camp was a smart move...
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Yeah, i know. Nate Dogg even had to sue Death Row if i remember right.
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listen to the shit he's been dropping recently, SHIT IS FUCKING WACK AS HELL
his production sucks now and he stop rapping his smooth flow
he suck now, harsh reality
he makes the same music as your boyfriend
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rofl
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to be real.. warren's new music is wack! i mean he knows that g-file isnt his sound but for the money he sold his soul to the mainstream shit.
btw where do you guys know that warren wasn't allowed to produce some tracks??? can someone get a quote from him talking about this??? because i read somewhere (i think it was posted here on dubcc) taht warren want to much money for his productions like daz on cali iz active ;D ;D
come on warren: dont shit on your fans by searching the internet for some bootlegers and spend your time in production for a new G-Funk Era!! You got it!
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Yeah, i know. Nate Dogg even had to sue Death Row if i remember right.
Yeah he sued death row first to have the rights for the songs he recorded, then around 2005 or 2006 he sued suge knight for 10 millions$, representing the royalties in never got for the death row featurings... if i'm right i didn't get shit because he didn't sign a contract with death row on the early dayz..
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DAMN RETURN OF THE REGULATOR IS CLASSIC
That I'd have to disagree with. Besides 3-4 "good" songs the album doesn't retain my interest all that much. It had the potential to be far better than what came out. It even had Dr Dre on there for the 2 that never work together. I wasn't expecting Regulate, but Take a Look over your shoulder, and I want It All are all superior
Phew, gotta respond to this one, 'cos Return of the Regulator is definitly my favorite Warren album! Never gets old! My favorite cuts:
- Lookin' at you
- Here comes another hit
- Somethin' to bounce to
- This Gangsta shit is too much
- Young loc's slow down
- Yo' Sassy ways
- It ain't nothing' wrong with you
- They Lovin' me now
- Streets of the LBC
To have this many tracks that I don't skip on a cd is pretty rare for me.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy some of the tracks you listed, and overall this is a decent album, just not classic IMO, but I can see how others would enjoy it on that level and rate it as a solid album, and wouldn't knock anyone's opinion of thinking that on any debate-level
listen to the shit he's been dropping recently, SHIT IS FUCKING WACK AS HELL
his production sucks now and he stop rapping his smooth flow
he suck now, harsh reality
::) You can say that about Warrens current material, but praise Snoops? & you wonder why people point and laugh at you, and why they will never take your opinion serious!!!
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DAMN RETURN OF THE REGULATOR IS CLASSIC
That I'd have to disagree with. Besides 3-4 "good" songs the album doesn't retain my interest all that much. It had the potential to be far better than what came out. It even had Dr Dre on there for the 2 that never work together. I wasn't expecting Regulate, but Take a Look over your shoulder, and I want It All are all superior
Phew, gotta respond to this one, 'cos Return of the Regulator is definitly my favorite Warren album! Never gets old! My favorite cuts:
- Lookin' at you
- Here comes another hit
- Somethin' to bounce to
- This Gangsta shit is too much
- Young loc's slow down
- Yo' Sassy ways
- It ain't nothing' wrong with you
- They Lovin' me now
- Streets of the LBC
To have this many tracks that I don't skip on a cd is pretty rare for me.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy some of the tracks you listed, and overall this is a decent album, just not classic IMO, but I can see how others would enjoy it on that level and rate it as a solid album, and wouldn't knock anyone's opinion of thinking that on any debate-level
listen to the shit he's been dropping recently, SHIT IS FUCKING WACK AS HELL
his production sucks now and he stop rapping his smooth flow
he suck now, harsh reality
::) You can say that about Warrens current material, but praise Snoops? & you wonder why people point and laugh at you, and why they will never take your opinion serious!!!
Snoop still putting out classic joints like 2 min Warning and Secrets, Warren G is weak. I pity him
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^ lol
Warren G new album was on the same level as Snoop Dogg
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exactly. both albums were weak, and both artists can make alot better music if they want to, but they opted to go the sellout route, and the end result is that MnW is the lowest selling solo album by snoop, with around 150k in sales, while warren's album didnt even chart. i dont think warren's album did more than a couple thousand units
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Warren G did keep it real (well, his last music suck, just as Snoop)
Snoop Dogg was faking it.
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Who giveS a fuck! WARREN G CREATED CLASSIC ALBUM AND MUSIC WITHOUT THEM FOOLS! WHEN U REALLY THINK ABOUT IT, HE WAS BETTER OFF AFTER HOW ALL THAT SHIT TURNED OUT! IF ANYTHING, WARREN G DID IT ON HIS OWN BEFORE MANY OF THESE RAPPERS NOW! HE DID IT ON HIS OWN BEFORE SNOOP OR THA DOGG POUND! HE WAS HIS OWN MAN AND HANDLED SHIT THE RIGHT WAY! EVERYBODY NEEDED SOMEONE TO START OFF! DRE NEEEDED NWA! ICE CUBE SAME SHIT! EMINEM NEEDED DRE! DRE NEEDED SNOOP AND VICE VERSA! IT GOES ON AND ON! ITS ALL GOOD A GRAVY!
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dan you would think that suge didnt want him at deathrow but it sounded likedre,snoop etc didnt want him there
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dan you would think that suge didnt want him at deathrow but it sounded likedre,snoop etc didnt want him there
Nah, it doesn't. Suge decided what got released. I think Dre said that just cause he knew that Warren ain't comin' out on Death Row anytime soon and he already had huge success with "Regulate", so Dre knew he could get a deal on another label and release an album. A lot of people on Death Row records didn't get the credit they deserved, no wonder that so many people left and started talkin' shit about Death Row Records.
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^ lol
Warren G new album was on the same level as Snoop Dogg
yeah, can't hate on the kiddy logic :laugh:
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Actually I enjoyed G Files more than Malice now that I think of it
good songs on G Files:
West is Back
Let's Get High
100 Miles & Runnin'
Suicide
Masquerade
Hold On
What's Wrong
not to forget dope records that didn't make it unfortunately like gigalo's get lonely 2.
good songs on Malice:
I Wanna Rock
2 Minute Warning
Different Languages
Upside Down
Secrets
Pimpin Ain't EZ
Special
overall though Malice had a lot more shitty songs than G Files
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Snoop is even on the lead single, how much more does he need for it to qualify as jerk off material?
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For any of the american cats here who might not have heard Prince Igor, which was a massive Warren G featured hit in Europe in 1997:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-blfPCOeLQ0
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dan you would think that suge didnt want him at deathrow but it sounded likedre,snoop etc didnt want him there
I agree.
Like I never understood whythefuck Dre worked with many different ppl (deathrow, nas & firm, lot more...), but never with Warren who is str8 family ??
Like I never understood whythefuck Snoop did not want Warren to produce one track on 213 album ??
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yeah i kno, it is a shame dat the brothers never hooked up. but they did do one song - "Lookin At You", but Mr Iovine (for whatever reason) never gave clearance on Dre's vocals, dat's why u aint hearin him on it - the o.g. had G-dubb and Dre rappin together..
warren said this in an interview on dubcnn
and the reason why Warren never produced on the 213-album, was because of industry-politics. Snoop, who called the shots on the project, was tryin to play the name-game wit the production - Kanye West, Hi-Tek, Neptunes, Missy Elliot etc..
still tho, the album had production by Soundscannerz, so at least 1 warren-beat would've been more politicaly correct
and i think warren actually did do some production - it's just dat, dat whatever he did, never got used - they did like 100 songs for that album (and a alotta shit leaked, altho in snippets)
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they did like 100 songs for that album (and a alotta shit leaked, altho in snippets)
even tho they said that, i believe its bullshit. i think they had like maximum 10 tracks which didnt make the album. i dont believe they did that many
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even tho they said that, i believe its bullshit. i think they had like maximum 10 tracks which didnt make the album. i dont believe they did that many
Nah, it's not. A lot of those leftovers leaked and some of them just leaked as snippets. There's more then 10 of them, that's for sure.
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even tho they said that, i believe its bullshit. i think they had like maximum 10 tracks which didnt make the album. i dont believe they did that many
Nah, it's not. A lot of those leftovers leaked and some of them just leaked as snippets. There's more then 10 of them, that's for sure.
i'm not sure that there are really more than 10 leftovers. They said they recorded the record real fast like in one month... the left overs that leaked are "sunny dayz" "she wasn't feeling me" "to be with somebody (snippet)" "we gonna ride (snippet)" (and do you count "dolla dolla bill" and "fallin' in love again" as leftovers??) AM I MISSING SOME ??
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even tho they said that, i believe its bullshit. i think they had like maximum 10 tracks which didnt make the album. i dont believe they did that many
Nah, it's not. A lot of those leftovers leaked and some of them just leaked as snippets. There's more then 10 of them, that's for sure.
i'm not sure that there are really more than 10 leftovers. They said they recorded the record real fast like in one month... the left overs that leaked are "sunny dayz" "she wasn't feeling me" "to be with somebody (snippet)" "we gonna ride (snippet)" (and do you count "dolla dolla bill" and "fallin' in love again" as leftovers??) AM I MISSING SOME ??
-Sunny Dayz
-She Wasnt Feeling Me
-To Be With Somebody (feat. Pusha T)
-We Gonna Ride
-Dolla Dolla Bill (there's two versions of this track, a 213 track and then the Nate solo both have the same beat though)
-Fallin In Love Again
-Rollin Down The Highway
-Whistle While U Hustle (feat. Daz Dillinger & Soopafly) (European Bonus Track)
-Brown Skin
And then there's the original version of "Gotta Find A Way" with Butch Cassidy, plus there's the two Warren G remixes of "Groupie Love" and a DJ Pooh remix of "So Fly". I'm sure i'm missin' some track names though.
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even tho they said that, i believe its bullshit. i think they had like maximum 10 tracks which didnt make the album. i dont believe they did that many
Nah, it's not. A lot of those leftovers leaked and some of them just leaked as snippets. There's more then 10 of them, that's for sure.
i'm not sure that there are really more than 10 leftovers. They said they recorded the record real fast like in one month... the left overs that leaked are "sunny dayz" "she wasn't feeling me" "to be with somebody (snippet)" "we gonna ride (snippet)" (and do you count "dolla dolla bill" and "fallin' in love again" as leftovers??) AM I MISSING SOME ??
-Sunny Dayz
-She Wasnt Feeling Me
-To Be With Somebody (feat. Pusha T)
-We Gonna Ride
-Dolla Dolla Bill (there's two versions of this track, a 213 track and then the Nate solo both have the same beat though)
-Fallin In Love Again
-Rollin Down The Highway
-Whistle While U Hustle (feat. Daz Dillinger & Soopafly) (European Bonus Track)
-Brown Skin
And then there's the original version of "Gotta Find A Way" with Butch Cassidy, plus there's the two Warren G remixes of "Groupie Love" and a DJ Pooh remix of "So Fly". I'm sure i'm missin' some track names though.
Somebody told me that fallin in love again and brown skin were supposed to be on a nate dogg solo.. There's the third version of gotta find a way where nate sings butch's verse too. Rollin down the highway and whistle while U hustle were released (welcome to 2 chuuuch vol.9 and the hard way european version)
i'm not feeling that "to be with somebody" snippet but still i'd like to hear it.. We gonna ride sounded dope, beat ended up on tha eastsidaz song hard times, they did a thight song..
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lmao at people tellin Warren to get over it.
I'm sure none of yall motherfuckers had shit that ever bothered yall huh? Plus she asked him a couple times about it, it's not like he's at home youtubing shit about it all day long. You don't ever hear Warren badmouthing anybody. So yall tellin Warren to shut up is a joke.
The 213 thing was completely fucked up. Warren's remix to Groupie Luv shit on everything else on that album.
Not having Warren produce AT ALL??? That's like not lettin Nate do hooks! What a joke. Snoop or whoever made that call doesn't have a clue of what they're doing.
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For any of the american cats here who might not have heard Prince Igor, which was a massive Warren G featured hit in Europe in 1997:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-blfPCOeLQ0
Damn never heard that, sick track for sure, you got an mp3 link
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Would love to hear the OG of Lookin At You with Dre and Warren going back and forth, thatd be ill, and Snoops a mark for not letting Warren produce even 1 track on 213, dissaointed alot of fans with that decision
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Warren G would have been paid more than Snoop & Nate if he were to produce and mix the album
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warren need to shut his ass up, stop complaining and put out good music for once
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For any of the american cats here who might not have heard Prince Igor, which was a massive Warren G featured hit in Europe in 1997:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-blfPCOeLQ0
Damn never heard that, sick track for sure, you got an mp3 link
here's the track dat soldidfied Warren G as one of biggest westcoast-artits overseas - to this day, very few (well, maybe Coolio), have had this much success outside of US. i dont think we should feel sorry for him - this nigga caked up like a muthafucka in the late 90's, and im sure he still is to this day, with all the publishing
check it out yall
Warren G - Prince Igor
http://www.zshare.net/audio/715279557cead014/
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For any of the american cats here who might not have heard Prince Igor, which was a massive Warren G featured hit in Europe in 1997:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-blfPCOeLQ0
Damn never heard that, sick track for sure, you got an mp3 link
here's the track dat soldidfied Warren G as one of biggest westcoast-artits overseas - to this day, very few (well, maybe Coolio), have had this much success outside of US. i dont think we should feel sorry for him - this nigga caked up like a muthafucka in the late 90's, and im sure he still is to this day, with all the publishing
check it out yall
Warren G - Prince Igor
http://www.zshare.net/audio/715279557cead014/
warren g>>>> dr dre in japan and otha parts of aisa
consider his G funk sound the best sound outta West in 90s,,they can relate to his music mo than dre shits..from 90s
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"I Want it All" went platinum in 2000, and since then he's maintained a healthy bank account, and has been paid for the Death Row/Def Jam hit collections. It'll be good to actually see the total income of Warren from 1992-2000. I think people would be open jawed. He seemed to have a pretty decent deal at Def Jam
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warren need to shut his ass up, stop complaining and put out good music for once
snoop need to start acting like a boy george & keep on putting that 'sensual seduction' type of track (good career change)
btw, snoop 'nigarachi' productions R waaay better than warren G, aren't they ?
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Snoops decision to work with Soulja Boy, Britney Spears and Pussycat Dolls is way better than Warrens decision to work with Bishop Lamont, Ray J & Travis Barker
I hope the next 213 album this fall features Warren G's production, if Nate gets better
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I hope the next 213 album this fall features Warren G's production, if Nate gets better
I think it was just talk, they ain't workin' on a new album. I really don't think it will happen.
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I really doubt it with Nate's condition. I can't see him in the recording studio doing numerous sessions, but hopefully things pull together. I can remember people were surprised the first actually came out
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nah, they were gonna use vocals from warren's vault for the new 213 - warren's gotta alotta shit he did wit nate.
i wouldn't say nate is in the condition to record anythin for a long, long time.. if ever
the new 213 will probly happen, but not anytime soon - but then again, Snoop has spent alotta tme in the sudiobooth lately. he might've recorded somethin
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exactly see he was once big even overseas so why dont he bring it back to that not that midnight hour or that g-files crap
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nah, they were gonna use vocals from warren's vault for the new 213 - warren's gotta alotta shit he did wit nate.
Yeah but is was just talkin'. They haven't started workin' on the shit. If they did, i'm 100% sure Warren would have said somethin' about it on this new interview.
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nah, they were gonna use vocals from warren's vault for the new 213 - warren's gotta alotta shit he did wit nate.
Yeah but is was just talkin'. They haven't started workin' on the shit. If they did, i'm 100% sure Warren would have said somethin' about it on this new interview.
Let's push it cause i really wanna see it happen..
Warren G also said that a Warren G EP was coming on priority some time ago. So maybe he's working on that too. Or maybe that was just talk.
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for real i dont like that many songs on the album so it was classic for that time but not a classic all the way thru album...lol
I like most of the tracks of "Return Of The Regulator", i usually don't skip tracks just let it play all the way through.
same as, sign of a great album.
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even tho they said that, i believe its bullshit. i think they had like maximum 10 tracks which didnt make the album. i dont believe they did that many
Nah, it's not. A lot of those leftovers leaked and some of them just leaked as snippets. There's more then 10 of them, that's for sure.
i'm not sure that there are really more than 10 leftovers. They said they recorded the record real fast like in one month... the left overs that leaked are "sunny dayz" "she wasn't feeling me" "to be with somebody (snippet)" "we gonna ride (snippet)" (and do you count "dolla dolla bill" and "fallin' in love again" as leftovers??) AM I MISSING SOME ??
-Sunny Dayz
-She Wasnt Feeling Me
-To Be With Somebody (feat. Pusha T)
-We Gonna Ride
-Dolla Dolla Bill (there's two versions of this track, a 213 track and then the Nate solo both have the same beat though)
-Fallin In Love Again
-Rollin Down The Highway
-Whistle While U Hustle (feat. Daz Dillinger & Soopafly) (European Bonus Track)
-Brown Skin
And then there's the original version of "Gotta Find A Way" with Butch Cassidy, plus there's the two Warren G remixes of "Groupie Love" and a DJ Pooh remix of "So Fly". I'm sure i'm missin' some track names though.
Did all these leak ? Any chance of a hookup.
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Most of them has leaked, i used to have some of them don't anymore though. I think there's a third version of "Gotta Find A Way" too. I have the single of "Groupie Luv" that includes those Warren G remixes plus the instrumentals if somebody wants them. Here's the both versions of "Dolla Dolla Bill".
213 - Dolla Dolla Bill
http://sharebee.com/cf29d736
Nate Dogg - Dolla Dolla Bill
http://sharebee.com/cb03c4e3
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Most of them has leaked, i used to have some of them don't anymore though. I think there's a third version of "Gotta Find A Way" too. I have the single of "Groupie Luv" that includes those Warren G remixes plus the instrumentals if somebody wants them. Here's the both versions of "Dolla Dolla Bill".
213 - Dolla Dolla Bill
http://sharebee.com/cf29d736
Nate Dogg - Dolla Dolla Bill
http://sharebee.com/cb03c4e3
Nate's solo is incredible.. yeah there's a third version of gotta find a way, i posted a 2min version tagged, i'm still looking for the cdq version that leaked (trying hard to finish that nate dogg collection!). "To be with somebody" and "we gonna ride" are just snippets, too short to hear anybody. there's a radio rip of sunny dayz so shitty quality.
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part2 ( nate dogg, dre, westcoast, detox)......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSmd9AN0uts
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stop lyin about snoop droppin a dope album...lol
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Thank god they left him off death row because off Warren G we had some nice albums come out of his camp at the time.
Warren G~Regulate The G Funk Era
Twinz~Conversation
The Dove Shack~This Is The Shack
There is no way those albums would have been released.
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part2 ( nate dogg, dre, westcoast, detox)......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSmd9AN0uts
perhaps Warren G should actually say to Dr.Dre how he feels, in stead of keeping it to himself?
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for real
you'd think dre would maybe listen to his brother...lol
part2 ( nate dogg, dre, westcoast, detox)......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSmd9AN0uts
perhaps Warren G should actually say to Dr.Dre how he feels, in stead of keeping it to himself?
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for real
you'd think dre would maybe listen to his brother...lol
They ain't real brothers though, just step brothers. It's a shame that Dre only has given Warren two beats and the "Lookin At You" version with Dre on it was never released, it would have boosted the sales of "Return Of The Regulator" for sure. Warren should just leak it cause he ain't gonna be releasin' it anymore.
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still they are closer than the local 7eleven duke runnin the cash register and the owner
so step or not they should have been workin together more often
but wait you sayin dre was on a version for lookin at you? as in rappin on it?
for real
you'd think dre would maybe listen to his brother...lol
They ain't real brothers though, just step brothers. It's a shame that Dre only has given Warren two beats and the "Lookin At You" version with Dre on it was never released, it would have boosted the sales of "Return Of The Regulator" for sure. Warren should just leak it cause he ain't gonna be releasin' it anymore.
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but wait you sayin dre was on a version for lookin at you?
dat's the og-version rite there. only collaboration wit both of 'em on the mic.. Jimmy Iovine did't clear the Dre-feature for whatever reason (label/industry-politics), so dat's why ur not hearin him rappin on the retail-verson of G-dubb's album
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damn and the beat must have been different
cuz dre on the album version dont sound right
but damn like i said
knowin dre dont write all his lyrics hes still one of the best rappers IMO
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still they are closer than the local 7eleven duke runnin the cash register and the owner
so step or not they should have been workin together more often
but wait you sayin dre was on a version for lookin at you? as in rappin on it?
Yeah, that is true. Yeah, that's what Warren G said on his old DubCNN interview.
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http://www.devidev.com/2010/01/warren-g-on-the-west-coast-and-nate-dogg/
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Shit, Nate's doin his thing recovering ...he can lift his head up when he wan't to?
Damn that makes me sad. No one said bafore Nate was so early in his recovery stages.
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Shit, Nate's doin his thing recovering ...he can lift his head up when he wan't to?
Damn that makes me sad. No one said bafore Nate was so early in his recovery stages.
Unfortunately after 2 strokes we cannot expect very more. That's why you had everybody not saying concrete stuff, just formal things like " he's doing better ", "he's in therapy keep him in your thought" etc..
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yeah and IMO noone knows what happened on the inside but it sounds and looks like dre was closer to his brother who died and for which he dedicated a song to
that song is not jus a song, thats dre cryin on that record IMO
mad dope song and one of dre's best
still they are closer than the local 7eleven duke runnin the cash register and the owner
so step or not they should have been workin together more often
but wait you sayin dre was on a version for lookin at you? as in rappin on it?
Yeah, that is true. Yeah, that's what Warren G said on his old DubCNN interview.
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yeah and IMO noone knows what happened on the inside but it sounds and looks like dre was closer to his brother who died and for which he dedicated a song to
that song is not jus a song, thats dre cryin on that record IMO
mad dope song and one of dre's best
It was kinda fucked up though that he didn't even write the lyrics for the track.
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i'd say he wrote it.
and if he didnt, then it was his thoughts put on paper - rhyme-formulated by another writer, dat's all
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i'd say he wrote it.
and if he didnt, then it was his thoughts put on paper - rhyme-formulated by another writer, dat's all
if y'all talking about the message, royce wrote it.
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yeh, dat is tru. Nickel wrote it, i member it now.
but dat's Dre's thoughts - so he wrote it too. Nickel was just a source for him to put it on paper properly..
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Yeah, it was written by Royce Da 5'9 but the he didn't get credited on "2001" but he's credited on the "2001 Instumental" album.
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Finaly someone spoke on Nate, and i mean realy spoke, not that vage shit... Good to hear hes getting better
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what was the second track dre gave warren g??
oh wait i got it
game dont wait remix
lookin at you
or did i miss 1
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Yeah, "Lookin At You" and "The Game Don't Wait" (Remix) are the only tracks that Dre produced for Warren. The beat of "Lookin At You" was actually for a Sticky Fingaz track at first but when he didn't sign with Aftermath, Dr.Dre gave the beat to Warren G.
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Most of them has leaked, i used to have some of them don't anymore though. I think there's a third version of "Gotta Find A Way" too. I have the single of "Groupie Luv" that includes those Warren G remixes plus the instrumentals if somebody wants them. Here's the both versions of "Dolla Dolla Bill".
213 - Dolla Dolla Bill
http://sharebee.com/cf29d736
Nate Dogg - Dolla Dolla Bill
http://sharebee.com/cb03c4e3
props
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Finaly someone spoke on Nate, and i mean realy spoke, not that vage shit... Good to hear hes getting better
what did warren say, aint got time to watch it .
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I hope hes right about Detox.. and Im not ganna front like most of yall and be all like ''fuck detox, its been too long'' etc..
I REALLY wanna listen to that album and all the leftovers THIS YEAR!!!
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I hope hes right about Detox.. and Im not ganna front like most of yall and be all like ''fuck detox, its been too long'' etc..
I REALLY wanna listen to that album and all the leftovers THIS YEAR!!!
lol word. . he said now that he's finally in the studio with Snopp that's when they know Dre's serious about releasing it... So maybe this year... But i doubt Aftermath is gonna release 2 albums in one year ! :laugh: . Plus dre has been involved with the production of R.E.D so.. i dont think so but i hope so. if it would drop around the end of november or December that would be crazy for sales too ! not that i care about the numbers, good music is good music.
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one of the dopest but yet deepest pieces of muzik ever put together IMO
str8 up dre cryin on that song and a good way to end the album
but yeah if he didnt write it thats sad but i guess maybe dre cant write...lol
seems like he dont write nuthin of his own muzik....haha
yeah and IMO noone knows what happened on the inside but it sounds and looks like dre was closer to his brother who died and for which he dedicated a song to
that song is not jus a song, thats dre cryin on that record IMO
mad dope song and one of dre's best
It was kinda fucked up though that he didn't even write the lyrics for the track.
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Well he doesn't. Dre tells the writers what he wants to talk about then they write somethin and Dre tells them if it's good or not. I think he wrote some of his rhymes in the NWA days though and i think he wrote some of the lines of "Deep Cover" himself, i can't remember where i read that from though.
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MC Ren said that Dre wrote some his own rhymes on the NWA albums, and it was easy to tell which rhymes Dre wrote and which rhymes he didnt
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Dre doesn't write rhymes, he writes checks... just like Diddy. dat's good enuff. fuck a rhyme 8)
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but dre is one of the few rappers that can read from someone eles writin his lyrics and it sound dope as it does
I wasnt feelin his flow on relapse
but what other rapper you know fab that doesnt write his/her own lyrics but sounds as dope as dre on the mic?
Dre doesn't write rhymes, he writes checks... just like Diddy. dat's good enuff. fuck a rhyme 8)
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but dre is one of the few rappers that can read from someone eles writin his lyrics and it sound dope as it does
I wasnt feelin his flow on relapse
but what other rapper you know fab that doesnt write his/her own lyrics but sounds as dope as dre on the mic?
Dre doesn't write rhymes, he writes checks... just like Diddy. dat's good enuff. fuck a rhyme 8)
dre's got a naturaltalent for havin a captivating presence on the mic - his voice, his flow. he's a dope producer dat can be really good on the mic (only wit other ppl shit, tho) - notice, im not callin him a "rapper", cuz dat's not what he is - he's a prodcer dat "raps", totally diffent (we've been through this b4)..
i would say this, if André would'nt been dyslectic (which he obvisouly is, cus the nigga cant hold a pencil for shit), he probly would've been a really great MC
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bottomline is on the mic when he raps or the outcome of him rappin and his performance as a producer who raps, however you want to call it hes dope on the mic
and id take him not writin his own lyrics on the mic>>>>>>snoop, t.i, wayne, jay-z, e-40, b-real and many more
simply cuz hes dope on the mic and his presence is creative and energetic
perfect example would be the dedication song to his brother and im not a fan slow songs like that but it shows dre's dopeness on the mic
so onto somethin thats more on the club level would be still dre....his energy on that song is mad dope
and another great thing about dre and why i can respect him on the mic even tho he doesnt write alot of his lyrics is cuz hes relaxed when he raps
but dre is one of the few rappers that can read from someone eles writin his lyrics and it sound dope as it does
I wasnt feelin his flow on relapse
but what other rapper you know fab that doesnt write his/her own lyrics but sounds as dope as dre on the mic?
Dre doesn't write rhymes, he writes checks... just like Diddy. dat's good enuff. fuck a rhyme 8)
dre's got a naturaltalent for havin a captivating presence on the mic - his voice, his flow. he's a dope producer dat can be really good on the mic (only wit other ppl shit, tho) - notice, im not callin him a "rapper", cuz dat's not what he is - he's a prodcer dat "raps", totally diffent (we've been through this b4)..
i would say this, if André would'nt been dyslectic (which he obvisouly is, cus the nigga cant hold a pencil for shit), he probly would've been a really great MC
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if u wanna call dre a "rapper" even if he isn't, dat's ur opinion. all good.. i respect dat
i think Dre "performs" great on the mic, for bein a producer dat raps over "skeleton"-verses (without even havin any input on the pengame itself). like i said, if Dre wouldn't been dyslectic - he probly would've been one of the greatest ever. But he isn't. He's one of the greatest producers tho ;)
and u can't say dat u'd rather listen to Dre rhyme than Jay-z now, c'mon.. ;)
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yeah to me hes a dope producer that raps, i never thought of it like that but now that i think bout it thats the actual break down
but yeah hes somethin else on the mic whether he writes the lyrics or not
but yeah id take dre on the mic over jay-z
jay-z is a borin rapper IMO even wit the best production he still cant hold nuthin against dre at his very best
jay-z style is wack and he tries too hard
but for dre its like its natural for him
some think dres secret weapon is on the production side.....nah its on the rappin side IMO
he can rip the mic if he wants to, shame he hasnt
if u wanna call dre a "rapper" even if he isn't, dat's ur opinion. all good.. i respect dat
i think Dre "performs" great on the mic, for bein a producer dat raps over "skeleton"-verses (without even havin any input on the pengame itself). like i said, if Dre wouldn't been dyslectic - he probly would've been one of the greatest ever. But he isn't. He's one of the greatest producers tho ;)
and u can't say dat u'd rather listen to Dre rhyme than Jay-z now, c'mon.. ;)
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The beat of "Lookin At You" was actually for a Sticky Fingaz track at first but when he didn't sign with Aftermath, Dr.Dre gave the beat to Warren G.
dat is very tru - supposedly Dre catched Warren off-guard all surpisingly-like. the nigga never did shit for him, n all of a sudden he showed up wit a beat for him like "here u go, bro". :D
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dre:you want to sign wit this dynasty?
sticky:N*gga is you crazy, i dont sign wit people, i sign them
but nah wait so sticky was offered a deal wit aftermath?
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yeah to me hes a dope producer that raps, i never thought of it like that but now that i think bout it thats the actual break down
but yeah hes somethin else on the mic whether he writes the lyrics or not
but yeah id take dre on the mic over jay-z
jay-z is a borin rapper IMO even wit the best production he still cant hold nuthin against dre at his very best
jay-z style is wack and he tries too hard
but for dre its like its natural for him
some think dres secret weapon is on the production side.....nah its on the rappin side IMO
he can rip the mic if he wants to, shame he hasnt
if u wanna call dre a "rapper" even if he isn't, dat's ur opinion. all good.. i respect dat
i think Dre "performs" great on the mic, for bein a producer dat raps over "skeleton"-verses (without even havin any input on the pengame itself). like i said, if Dre wouldn't been dyslectic - he probly would've been one of the greatest ever. But he isn't. He's one of the greatest producers tho ;)
and u can't say dat u'd rather listen to Dre rhyme than Jay-z now, c'mon.. ;)
ah man, i reckon u aren't dat familiar wit jigga's catalog - otherwise u wouldn't b sayn the things u r sayin. all good tho, check this shit out my nigga
everybody's entitled to their opinions, but
Jay-Z is absolutely, truly one of the goats, without "Reasonable Doubt" - and i feel like everybody dat listens to hiphop, should try to like him (if not, than at least try to check out his best work)
this is some of the best hiphop-music ever - musicaly and perfomance-wise on the mic.
anno 1994 (notice - bein dat Shawn Carter used to b a student of immortals like Jaz-O and Big Daddy Kane, i dont feel like i need to go all preachy on him. 'Nuff said)
Jay-Z - I Can't Get Wit That
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu4UG8uLHZ8
Big Daddy Kane feat. Ol Dirty Bastard, Shyheim, Jay-Z etc. - Show & Prove
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niOrRHiVgo4
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nah i havent listened to every single jay-z song but ive given a wide variety of his muzik a chance and it isnt as dope as dre's
its not as interestin as dre is on the mic
when dre raps, its like hes bringin you into the movie but when jay-z raps its like he has to try way too hard and is doin too much and puttin in alot of effort to make a song or a make album and its not on the same level as dre
from the two examples you provided dre has done better IMO
im not sayin he is or isnt one of the goat altho that is overhypin him IMO especially if others arent considered better than him
who do you think is better than jay-z?
(and your answer to that question will lead to my next unless your examples are somethin i wasnt expectin...lol)
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bottomline is on the mic when he raps or the outcome of him rappin and his performance as a producer who raps, however you want to call it hes dope on the mic
and id take him not writin his own lyrics on the mic>>>>>>snoop, t.i, wayne, jay-z, e-40, b-real and many more
simply cuz hes dope on the mic and his presence is creative and energetic
perfect example would be the dedication song to his brother and im not a fan slow songs like that but it shows dre's dopeness on the mic
so onto somethin thats more on the club level would be still dre....his energy on that song is mad dope
and another great thing about dre and why i can respect him on the mic even tho he doesnt write alot of his lyrics is cuz hes relaxed when he raps
Sorry for interfering, I know it's mostly about personal opinions, but in this case I have to say that you can't put Dre > either E-40 or Snoop Dogg and reason it with presence. E-40 and Snoop both proved over many years that they can rock shows. Both have a very characteristic style and flow, maybe Snoop lost it a bit but in general you won't find any rapper sounding similar to Snoop in sense of voice or delivery (I also imply ad-libs etc.). E-40 is even more stylistic. He changed his way of rapping as well but he still a stand-out, absolutely not comparable, he is able to deliver everything and I swear he is the better live act.
The reason why Dre sounds good on the mic (for the most part on 2001 where he has some of his best raps imo) is that he spends a lot more time in the studio to record them. Even Snoop said so, dude's a perfectionist. He expects some kind of professionalism from rappers working with him but he is even more serious about it when it comes to himself. I guess the procedure is something like this: he gets some lyrics by a rapper/ghostwriter and learns them by hard and develops a flow and delivery to it. He tries so hard until it fits his ambition. There's a difference to the "regular" process where people just write their shit down and just spit a few times and add some background ish to finish it. And that's why many albums sound rushed these days, because rappers don't pay enough attention to it, they try to just show off over some beat and get their Benjamins straight.
Dre may have a very, very good flow and delivery on some songs (e.g. Nuthin But A G Thang, Forgot About Dre) but I wouldn't ever put him above the like of a 40 Water. Fonzarelli is way more diverse and he got so much pressure on the mic. Look, this particular point has nothing to do with opinions, it's just a fact that 40 is able to spit some serious shit in very different ways and with a very personal influence. You don't have to like it, but you have recognize this. Me for example, I don't like Eminem, I cant stand his voice, but I recognize him as a good MC.
I don't know... but I think you overate Dre as a rapper a lil bit. That's no offense though, don't get me wrong.
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http://www.allhiphop.com/stories/news/archive/2010/01/24/22105576.aspx
SOURCE!
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i hope nate is doin ok
THIS IS FOR THE CROOK THATS IN ME BABY
I RAISE MY GANGSTA HAND, NIGGAS THINK THAT I'M CRAZY
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Si-Chiggedy
good lookin on comin thru wit the debate and you made some interestin points
so where do you rate jay-z today tho?
and id take e-40 on his grit and grind style>>>>>jay-z
that album is more interestin to me than jay-z muzik
but dre does have a dope flow and delivery
and i dont overate dre as producer that raps, he is dope and anytime he drops somethin new its mad dope when hes on his mad dope low which wasnt the case wit the relapse song
e-40 on his grit and grind flow>>>>eminem's muzik
this is jus what i would rather listen to
but jay-z and eminem are extremely overrated IMO
what about big daddy kane, rakim, krs one, rza, gza these rappers are mad dope and better than jay-z life IMO at their absolute best which most of the time they are
so i do recognize e-40 as a dope rapper but i jus prefer him on certain production
but jay-z is wack IMO and his muzik is good with good production unlike say dr. dre, e-40, snoop and others
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He'll make it through even stronger
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it aint a hit til nate dogg spit
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cool
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sad to hear about Nate
this also means Detox won't have Nate on it
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this washed nigga is a legend but these interviews I've been watching is painful to watch
Interviewer: What's up with you and snoop and dre?
Warren: *sniff sniff* I'm down for it, my line is always open, *sniff sniff*, it's up to them
come on nigga, have some pride and do ya own thing
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he needs snoop and dre his last album was garbage
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dre maybe, but snoop needs more than g-dubb...lol
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he needs snoop and dre his last album was garbage
To be fair, Snoop's last 3 albums have been pretty much garbage, and Dre hasn't produced a quality track (or a successful track) in years. Everyone from the West is washed up. Cube, Game, Dre, Snoop, DPG, Quik, Warren G, and on and on. No one is putting out quality material anymore. We are lucky if even 25% of the tracks are listenable. So don't bullshit like this guy needs this guy. None of them are doing it big anymore. BUT at least the music all around would be better if they all worked together again. I would rather have a Snoop/Warren G record then both of their solo's.
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why can't you idiots make a reply without mentioning Snoop? I only mentioned him because he came up many times in the interview
let me ask you fools something, when someone ask you why your life sucks, do you respond by saying "Malice N Wonderland is wack" ?
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why can't you idiots make a reply without mentioning Snoop? I only mentioned him because he came up many times in the interview
let me ask you fools something, when someone ask you why your life sucks, do you respond by saying "Malice N Wonderland is wack" ?
No, I respond with that when someone asks me what I think of that album.
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mike you a fool...lol
why can't you idiots make a reply without mentioning Snoop? I only mentioned him because he came up many times in the interview
let me ask you fools something, when someone ask you why your life sucks, do you respond by saying "Malice N Wonderland is wack" ?
No, I respond with that when someone asks me what I think of that album.
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mike you a fool...lol
why can't you idiots make a reply without mentioning Snoop? I only mentioned him because he came up many times in the interview
let me ask you fools something, when someone ask you why your life sucks, do you respond by saying "Malice N Wonderland is wack" ?
No, I respond with that when someone asks me what I think of that album.
Lol. I mean what I say. That album was garbage. The only redeeming tracks were Pimpin' Ain't Easy (Original Version) and Gangsta Luv.
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LOL @ this turning into another Snoop thread, he stays on ya little niggas minds
but back to the topic, when that chick was saying "Dre, put Warren on Detox", it looked like he was tearing up
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wouldnt you be if your brother, step, half etc.... did more for another rapper than you?
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wouldnt you be if your brother, step, half etc.... did more for another rapper than you?
the She thang doesn't give two shits about his kids he had with the hoes he fucked, why would you expect him to give a fuck about his half brother? Thinkg about it, he doesn't acknowledge the existence of his seeds yet Warren crying to be on a track with him
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sad to hear about Nate
this also means Detox won't have Nate on it
They said at one point they have enough material of him that hasnt been released yet that could work on Detox. Would be kinda lame to have a thrown together song though on the most anticipated album of all time. He could of even recorded for Detox before his strokes.
Either way, I had a feeling he was not doing so well judging by the fact nobody was being very specific about his situation. Makes sense they weren't because they didn't want people to know how bad it was.
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if the best thing going for him now is that he's moving his head then he don't expect hom to ever make a song again let alone live anywhere near a normal life
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Its really a shame it took this long for someone to say something. I mean I understand he's going through a tough time and he needs his space but his affiliates have to understand that Nate has a lot of fans who care about him.
Speaking of which, about 8 years ago Daz posted that Big Pimpin had a heart attack and was in the hospital...we still never got a fuckin update.
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i knew bout nate from a first hand source for a few weeks now..i didnt wanna say anything out of respect...prolly the same as the others who know him..
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he needs snoop and dre his last album was garbage
To be fair, Snoop's last 3 albums have been pretty much garbage, and Dre hasn't produced a quality track (or a successful track) in years. Everyone from the West is washed up. Cube, Game, Dre, Snoop, DPG, Quik, Warren G, and on and on. No one is putting out quality material anymore. We are lucky if even 25% of the tracks are listenable. So don't bullshit like this guy needs this guy. None of them are doing it big anymore. BUT at least the music all around would be better if they all worked together again. I would rather have a Snoop/Warren G record then both of their solo's.
realest shit ive read in a while on here..
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Its really a shame it took this long for someone to say something. I mean I understand he's going through a tough time and he needs his space but his affiliates have to understand that Nate has a lot of fans who care about him.
Speaking of which, about 8 years ago Daz posted that Big Pimpin had a heart attack and was in the hospital...we still never got a fuckin update.
yeah i agree, there definitely should have been an update at some point. about the big pimpin heart attack, in that 'dpg eulogy' video they talk to big pimpin in his apartment, he talks about how he was pretty bitter at the whole dpg for not visiting or calling him in the hospital. but in the video he was walking around looking healthy and everything
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I've known about Nate..also didn't say anything outta respect..definitely the same as others who know him..must respect the family's privacy..
as someone said, mentioning that he can move his head as a good thing, don't ever expect anymore Nate music (or even him leading a completely normal life).
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It is fucked up the way how Warren wants to be on Detox and probably wanted to be on both Chronic albums, but still Dre won't include him........I just don't have words for that type of bitchassness seriously your own brother WOW........
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last three album was malice n wonderland ego trippin and blue carpet treatment right??
blue carpet treatment was hella dope best album outta dat year
ego trippin was aight listenable
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this washed nigga is a legend but these interviews I've been watching is painful to watch
i thought you were tough ???
(http://www.buzzle.com/img/articleImages/37109-47.jpg)
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when someone ask me why my life sucks;
I respond by saying "Ego Trippin made me deaf,dumb and almost blind"?
Fixed
(http://memegenerator.net/Thumbnails/5/208x228_Depression-Dog-LIFE-SUCKS-TROLL-PEOPLE-OVER-INTERNET.jpg)
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yeh but theres gotta be a reason why he aint fucked with him something just dont add up maybe warren fuck up back in the day with dre who knows now as far as nate thats really sad that we will never ever a new song from him shade shiest said hes got enough songs do 2 a album hope we get to see that some day
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I've known about Nate..also didn't say anything outta respect..definitely the same as others who know him..must respect the family's privacy..
as someone said, mentioning that he can move his head as a good thing, don't ever expect anymore Nate music (or even him leading a completely normal life).
I can't imagine nate not singing again!
music and me
got together perfect harmony
soft and mellow
or so hard it'll make your speakers explode
stay with me
and together we will live out this dream
my music and me.....
DAMN!!!!!!!
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he talks about how he was pretty bitter at the whole dpg for not visiting or calling him in the hospital. but in the video he was walking around looking healthy and everything
Most of the DPG seems to be like that, like they dont' give a fuck about their friends. Has any other DPG member than Warren G and Butch Cassidy even talked about Nate Dogg's situation? Roscoe had a bad car accident some years ago, i don't think anybody spoke on that. I'm sure if Snoop had some problem like that everybody would be talkin' about him and sayin' please pray for him. It seems like the rest of the DPG always treated Nate Dogg like shit.
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maybe...just maybe...dre thinks warren fuckin sucks and cant bring shit to the table, besides production WHICH dre will handle himself? i know that if it wasnt for his beats, warren would get no play in my ride..
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well, first of all, I would say that it does not depend on the time when music has been released, I'm talking about particular skills and abilities in general. So let me put it in these words:
When you look on some dope rapper's career, you will always find dope song and dope verses, as well as boring either or wack shit. The thing with the doctor is, that he just released two solo's plus the NWA records. The rest is more or less features and here you will find Dre's weaker appearences - which he has. For example his verse on Snoop's "Imagine" - there's nothing special to say about it, to me it's kinda boring. Mostly because of this bored rapping by Dre and not because of the lyrics. The point is, as I said, that Dre spends a lot more time practising before finally letting it press on CD, plus Dre's a great musician which you can even hear in his vocals and how he performs them (including ad-libs etc.). You find a lot less weaker appereances compared to other rappers because of two facts: The perfectionist in him, that makes him work as long as it's good enough for him and the less amount of perfomances. It is just natural that rappers who release songs like shit will have a LOT more wack stuff even if they are considered to be dope MC's.
Now to your question:
I don't like Jay-Z really much and I do not consider him as one of the best to ever touch the mic. I just don't see too many outstanding skills in his rapping compared to other MC's besides his ability to create a certain vibe. If you ask me, Nas is the better rapper of these two which he proved on "Illmatic" and on countless other tracks. So yeah, I also think Jay-Z is overated but I wouldn't consider him wack. Rakim is one of the greatest for real. The Wu-Tang members in general all got skills but I may add Redman to the list and put him on a high spot in this "ranking" for his very characteristic flow and delivery. I think a good rapper has to have some "signature features" which differ from other rappers. There are so many MC's out there biting styles and sounding the same and some of them still may be good performers. But it's not outstanding to me. So when you ask me about rappers which stand out of the long list of other spitters I would name you these:
E-40 (for the reasons I already mentioned)
Suga Free (for being highly musical and having so many different methods to make folks like me laugh their ass off and his great irony)
Del Tha Funkee Homosapien (For his lyrical genius and funny way of performing (sometimes) and his diversity)
Eminem (Well, I don't like him, but he is a great MC for sure)
Paris (for his very very true lyrics and for being on point on nearly every track and his abilty to deliver sharp and clear)
Kurupt (He's a beast imo, may have a lost something in all these years but still able to just bein a beast)
WC (If he wasn't a stand out rapper then I dunno... a great deliverer back then)
Snoop Dogg (until 2002 THE rapper with best known style and his ad-libs and background vocals used to be the shit, ever since he has some cool verses and perfomances here and there, but his voice lost something, I dunno)
I named these for mostly characteristic reasons. All these rappers can create emotions (at least to me) and have the skills to make a dope beat even more dope. Sure there are other rappers having very personal styles e.g. MC Eiht (who is one of my fav artists ever) but I think he lives of his "gyeah" and "compton" shit and his straight gangsta lyrics and of course his mad dope laid-back flow. But he is not the best lyricst. So there a a few other rappers you could add to my list above - of course - but I wouldn't add Dre to that list. He is a great producer who can bring it on the mic as well but he is not a standout to me.
Too bad that three of the best MC's to ever touch the mic are already dead, you can guess to whom I refer...
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thats waz up
again good lookin for the debate and your input and not sayin this duke dont know this cuz he thinks jay is wack or isnt the best etc...
we all got our own tastes but its good to know you agree jay is overrated
hes creative but hes overrated
the 3 best ever to touch a mic is a tough one but everyones got their own input on that 1 and i can already tell many will differ wit that answer...lol
its all good as long as the wackest arent in there wayne, rick ross, jeezy these rappers that are here today but gon next year (like krs one said)
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maybe...just maybe...dre thinks warren fuckin sucks and cant bring shit to the table, besides production WHICH dre will handle himself? i know that if it wasnt for his beats, warren would get no play in my ride..
Is it Hard to see that Dr.Dre doesnt have the last word?
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et me ask you fools something, when someone ask you why your life sucks, do you respond by saying "Malice N Wonderland is wack" ?
Damn, fo'sho' my nephew!
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lol
et me ask you fools something, when someone ask you why your life sucks, do you respond by saying "Malice N Wonderland is wack" ?
Damn, fo'sho' my nephew!
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According to Warren G., Nate Dogg was relearning to use basic human functions and that he “can lift his head up.
Damn.
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by "basic human functions" they mean take a shit without a bag. fucked up situation
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what don't you niggas get, NATE DOGG IS DONE WITH MUSIC
he just needs to get his life better, that's the most important thing
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what don't you niggas get, NATE DOGG IS DONE WITH MUSIC
he just needs to get his life better, that's the most important thing
Time will reveal, but if he really wants to sing again, he can make it. Like those people paralysed walking again. it's a motivation thing.
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he needs snoop and dre his last album was garbage
To be fair, Snoop's last 3 albums have been pretty much garbage, and Dre hasn't produced a quality track (or a successful track) in years. Everyone from the West is washed up. Cube, Game, Dre, Snoop, DPG, Quik, Warren G, and on and on. No one is putting out quality material anymore. We are lucky if even 25% of the tracks are listenable. So don't bullshit like this guy needs this guy. None of them are doing it big anymore. BUT at least the music all around would be better if they all worked together again. I would rather have a Snoop/Warren G record then both of their solo's.
false, but you never got over Death Row, emotionally
http://www.youtube.com/v/c80dWbiONqM
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exactly see he was once big even overseas so why dont he bring it back to that not that midnight hour or that g-files crap
you didn't like anything of it, or?
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but nah wait so sticky was offered a deal wit aftermath?
Yeah, that's why he was on "Remember Me" and "Buck 'Em" and did some other tracks too.
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none of it...i mean mike jones? lol
rotr demolishes that album by the masses and rotr wasnt good all the way thru but much better
exactly see he was once big even overseas so why dont he bring it back to that not that midnight hour or that g-files crap
you didn't like anything of it, or?
damn thats crazy i guess he did good by not signin cuz i doubt he would have been able to release a album but damn sticky & dre is a dope team
i need to get alot of stickys muzik
but nah wait so sticky was offered a deal wit aftermath?
Yeah, that's why he was on "Remember Me" and "Buck 'Em" and did some other tracks too.
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come on now, it's not like Mike Jones was featured on every track :laugh:
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but still the album was wack not jus that song
but again compared to rotr.....damn rotr is really a dope album...thats the sound i like or if you want to take it back to regulate
REGULATE IS ONE OF THE BEST SONGS EVER.....wasnt expectin him to bring that again but that album was jus trash
bishop got more shine than the artist himself....lol
come on now, it's not like Mike Jones was featured on every track :laugh:
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hey i agree with you about Return of the regulator, but i disagree about In the midnight hour:
yeah it has a few corny songs on it, but a couple of ok songs as well IMO
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thats waz up
you listen to in the mid-night hour and i got return of the regulator for days
regulate (the song)>>>>>>anythin g-dubb has done since 213 the album or return of the regulator
hey i agree with you about Return of the regulator, but i disagree about In the midnight hour:
yeah it has a few corny songs on it, but a couple of ok songs as well IMO