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50 Cent Planning To Walk Out On Interscope. Could Shady Records Leave Interscope and become independent?
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The following are rumors based on insider information from very reliable sources.
A while ago, I wrote about how I had insider information that Interscope interfered with "Relapse 2" and they told Eminem to scrap the album and recreated "Relapse 2" from scratch. The insider sources said that Interscope wanted Eminem to make a more mainstream album that was completely different from his “horror themed” material. Producer and longtime friend of Eminem, Denaun Porter, denounced the rumor and said Interscope would never interfere with Eminem’s work. But Denaun Porter is a puppet who isn’t going to risk losing his job talking down to the higher up executives at Interscope, so of course he’s going to defend them. Also, when you hear that Eminem is being pushed around by Interscope, Eminem ends up looking bad. So of course Denaun Porter will downplay it. If you actually took the time to look into Interscope’s history, you would see how full of crap they really are. Ask 50 Cent if they ever tried to make him scrap his album. Ask Bishop Lamont if they ever pulled one of his records off the air because it was growing a buzz very quickly. Ask Obie Trice if they ever forced him to make songs he didn’t want to make.
Anyways heres what insider sources at interscope are saying.
- When Eminem finishes producing the final albums to complete his contract obligations, he plans to sign a new contract with Interscope as an artist/producer. Eminem, the artist, will continue being a Aftermath/Interscope artist. But he plans for his record label Shady Records to stray away from Interscope, become independent, and release albums without Interscope being involved. Eminem is not happy with Interscope shelving all of his Shady Records artists such as Stat Quo (also signed to Aftermath at the time), Bobby Creekwater, and making Obie Trice leave on him. Right now, Shady Records is a shell of itself which is why they were negotiating with Slaughterhouse to rebuild the Shady Records brand. The problem is, Eminem doesn’t want to have egg on his face again. The reason why Slaughterhouse is not signed to Shady yet is because Eminem is working on making Shady Records independent so then Interscope can’t tell Eminem which of his artists will release when. You have to remember that Crooked I, a member of Slaughterhouse, has had a bad taste in his mouth from Interscope before. Right now at Shady Records, you’ve got D12, 50 Cent (also signed to Aftermath) and no one else really that important signed. The shareholders at Interscope killed all of the momentum that Shady Records use to have and are reported to be doing the same with Aftermath intentionally (something we hear Dre and Bishop talked about before Bishop's departure).
- 50 Cent is getting ready to leave Interscope. “Before I Self Destruct” was 50’s final album obligation in Interscope’s contract and now he’s ready to split. Interscope is not really showing any signs of giving 50 Cent everything he wants in a new contract. 50 Cent feels he can get a better deal going somewhere else. By leaving Interscope, 50 Cent hopes he can rebuild the GUnit brand from the ground up. With Interscope, Gunit Records had a hell of a time trying to get Interscope to give a damn about any albums coming from 50’s artists. What’s going on? Why there was never a Olivia, Spider Loc, Young Hot Rod, 40 Glocc, Nyce, M.O.P. or G-Unit Philly albums released? Outside of Banks & Yayo (who both been released from Interscope) it seems no one is on the label. 50 Cent plans to leave and take Gunit records with him.
Looks like what Allhiphop.com reported back in August 2009 is coming true.
http://www.allhiphop.com/stories/rumors ... 83546.aspx
“I have an insider at Interscope Records who is pretty high up on the food chain. They have told me that 50 Cent is going to be leaving Interscope. This is nothing new. We all know that 50 Cent is on the last album in his deal and seeks to re-negotiate his situation and bring G-Unit with him. Here is what he said in a recent interview with AllHipHop.com.”
Musiccouch.com
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why would Eminem, Marshall Mathers, Slim SHADY want off his own label?
i don't buy it.
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why would Eminem, Marshall Mathers, Slim SHADY want off his own label?
i don't buy it.
He doesn't want off his own label. Where did you read that? Interscope is a distributor; a financial backer and media promoter. His owned imprint is Shady Records, while he himself is signed to Aftermath as an artist.
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why would Eminem, Marshall Mathers, Slim SHADY want off his own label?
i don't buy it.
He doesn't want off his own label. Where did you read that? Interscope is a distributor; a financial backer and media promoter. His owned imprint is Shady Records, while he himself is signed to Aftermath as an artist.
my bad i read it fast & wrong.
i thought it said he wants off of Shady & Interscope; but i get it now. :P
hopefully that does happen.
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why would Eminem, Marshall Mathers, Slim SHADY want off his own label?
i don't buy it.
He doesn't want off his own label. Where did you read that? Interscope is a distributor; a financial backer and media promoter. His owned imprint is Shady Records, while he himself is signed to Aftermath as an artist.
my bad i read it fast & wrong.
i thought it said he wants off of Shady & Interscope; but i get it now. :P
hopefully that does happen.
Only if dre does the saem
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why would Eminem, Marshall Mathers, Slim SHADY want off his own label?
i don't buy it.
He doesn't want off his own label. Where did you read that? Interscope is a distributor; a financial backer and media promoter. His owned imprint is Shady Records, while he himself is signed to Aftermath as an artist.
my bad i read it fast & wrong.
i thought it said he wants off of Shady & Interscope; but i get it now. :P
hopefully that does happen.
Only if dre does the saem
Dre's not leaving the money, even though Eminem would sell without any label.
i don't see what Interscope is bitching about though, Relapse was majorly successful.
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Oh please be true. Then he should then go and sign everyone back again. I really wanted albums on Shady from Stat Quo and Bobby Creekwater. The long delayed D12 album might actually come out aswell.
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Oh please be true. Then he should then go and sign everyone back again. I really wanted albums on Shady from Stat Quo and Bobby Creekwater. The long delayed D12 album might actually come out aswell.
i wonder about that D-12 album.
if Relapse 2 is his last album, you really think he'd want to go out on a group album he might have a few spots on?
if that D12 album comes out i think it grants us another Eminem album, which i'm fine with. 8)
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Eminem + Slaughterhouse + Stat Quo + Obie Trice ?
HELL YEAH !!!
imagine the creativity flowing between these label mates...
As for Mr. Jackson, he said it himself ... He's ''the big dick, you know, the one everybody's on''... So I guess he wants to ride is own dick. But i just cant see 50 anywhere else that with Shady/Aftermath.... and not that i dont think that he can bring the G.Unit empire back up, but he can't do it alone, nor with the help of banks even though he's been releasing some worthy material lately. Yayo is useless. If he wants to bring back the G.Unit empire to when it was in it's hay day he's gonna need to not only have Dre and Em working closely with him again, but he's gonna have to get the dudes he was close with when G.Unit came to the mainstream back with him. Young Buck and Game. That's the only way i see it happening. and its not gonna happen. Because even if 50 was to release a new set of artists, he's gonna have a tough time getting the buzz going, where as a reunion would would get the fans buzzing.
It's like Diddy and Badboy. After Biggie, Mase, 112 and L.O.X he has had succesfull artists but they were very short lived. Once the original formula is lost, it's very hard to bring the brand back up to it's pinnacle.
Y'all feel me ?
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No, I don't. 50 will need new investments but he does not need Young Buck and Game. Buck holds no real weight and never will. Game is unlikely to ever reach the success that Em, 50, Jay, Lil Wayne, etc. has/had. Though, with his current situation, R.E.D's is Game's chance to reclaim fame.
In general G-Unit needs a fresh new face and a different sound. It needs a breath of fresh air. Hayes would be a great look for G-Unit; Bishop Lamont could have been a great look for G-Unit. 50 needs to be viewed as the president but not as the face. For example, 50 needs someone that will be his Kanye. Jay's clearly coat tailing Kanye West's success but Ye wouldn't be here without Jay. If the Unit wants to be revitalised as a record label he'll need to find someone to help build the name.
I also agree that 50 is insane if he thinks the 50 cent era was built off his own will. Interscope/Aftermath/Shady/Unit built an empire with him. Yes, 50 was key but without them he wouldn't have reached the heights of success he has seen. 50 will need either a new label to work with or plenty of investors to have the capital to handle marketing, promotions, publishing, etc.
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Game and Young Buck back with 50 Cent would be HUGE though. Both of them said that they wanna sit down with 50 at one point, but 50 didn't respond so they both said just started dissin him and G-Unit again. I really wonder what 50 is thinkin' these days, about Game goin' back to Aftermath and Dre fuckin with Ashanti and shit like that. When was the last time that 50 Cent was interviewed anywhere, has nobody has asked him about these things?
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He's making movies in michigan and recording music between takes the last i heard.
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Game and Buck recording with 50 would be by far the biggest thing for G-Unit, it would create buzz music wise and you can build everything off that. That's what 50 has been forgetting lately, that good music is what got him those deals in the first place, without it you're as good as last years snow.
As far as this article, it sounds more like it was written by an unhappy Shady/Aftermath fan who doesn't agree with a couple artist getting dropped. But other than Stat Quo, I don't think anyone deserved that big machine behind them, they just didn't have the "it" factor that is necessary to become an artist with a 10+ year career, worldwide recognition, tours.... which is the goal for the artist and the major label.
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That "it" factor is so debatable. Game clearly didn't have the it factor at the time nor did Buck but once honed it can be developed. You just got to get put on properly. I honestly believe Stat Quo, Bobby Creekwater, & Bishop Lamont could have all been superstars. Hell Stat Quo SHOULD BE, at the very least, in the same position as Game right now but he never got that release date. Joell Ortiz is another case.
Aftermath & Interscope fucked up by not releasing artists. I'm convinced that's the worst thing you can do is not release a debut. Imagine if Nas was on interscope and they didn't release Illmatic. Some artists take time and investment, Bishop Lamont & Joell Ortiz, others just need to get that co-sign and a hot song, Stat Quo.
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No, I don't. 50 will need new investments but he does not need Young Buck and Game. Buck holds no real weight and never will. Game is unlikely to ever reach the success that Em, 50, Jay, Lil Wayne, etc. has/had. Though, with his current situation, R.E.D's is Game's chance to reclaim fame.
In general G-Unit needs a fresh new face and a different sound. It needs a breath of fresh air. Hayes would be a great look for G-Unit; Bishop Lamont could have been a great look for G-Unit. 50 needs to be viewed as the president but not as the face. For example, 50 needs someone that will be his Kanye. Jay's clearly coat tailing Kanye West's success but Ye wouldn't be here without Jay. If the Unit wants to be revitalised as a record label he'll need to find someone to help build the name.
I also agree that 50 is insane if he thinks the 50 cent era was built off his own will. Interscope/Aftermath/Shady/Unit built an empire with him. Yes, 50 was key but without them he wouldn't have reached the heights of success he has seen. 50 will need either a new label to work with or plenty of investors to have the capital to handle marketing, promotions, publishing, etc.
You are 100% right lol. i retract my statement homie. ;D
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Game and Young Buck back with 50 Cent would be HUGE though. Both of them said that they wanna sit down with 50 at one point, but 50 didn't respond so they both said just started dissin him and G-Unit again. I really wonder what 50 is thinkin' these days, about Game goin' back to Aftermath and Dre fuckin with Ashanti and shit like that. When was the last time that 50 Cent was interviewed anywhere, has nobody has asked him about these things?
Yes.
And yeah im looking forward to the next time 50 does an interview. For sure Game and Dre getting back together is somewhere in his mind. I just want to hear what he has to say about it ;D . But i have a feeling he is staying away from the cameras and reporters because he doesnt want to speak on it.
Booboo most definetly got his feelings hurt with what has been happening in the last few weeks/months..
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Game had that factor since the get go: he had that authority in his voice, mic presence, delivery, flow, entertainment value. His only problem was the song writing and 50 helped him with that and now he stands on his own. Buck is the same thing, even better package than Game if you ask me but his business mind is fucked up, that's another story.
As far as others, like I've said Stat Quo could definitely do his thing but Bishop... no. His flow and delivery are too monotone for an artist with prospective worldwide fanbase. I remember when I was playing a song or two of his when we were at house party, car stereo or whatever and my friends were like "next!". And I like Bishop but he is a classic example of somebody who should be independent and build a solid loyal fan base and live off that. Bishop over some Black Milk beats would be the shit. But I feel like he would get overshadowed having production from dudes that Game has; J.R., Just Blaze, Swizzy, Dre, Khalil, Nottz, Pharrelll....
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Game had that factor since the get go: he had that authority in his voice, mic presence, delivery, flow, entertainment value. His only problem was the song writing and 50 helped him with that and now he stands on his own. Buck is the same thing, even better package than Game if you ask me but his business mind is fucked up, that's another story.
As far as others, like I've said Stat Quo could definitely do his thing but Bishop... no. His flow and delivery are too monotone for an artist with prospective worldwide fanbase. I remember when I was playing a song or two of his when we were at house party, car stereo or whatever and my friends were like "next!". And I like Bishop but he is a classic example of somebody who should be independent and build a solid loyal fan base and live off that. Bishop over some Black Milk beats would be the shit. But I feel like he would get overshadowed having production from dudes that Game has; J.R., Just Blaze, Swizzy, Dre, Khalil, Nottz, Pharrelll....
I understand what you're saying but I don't necessary agree.
1) Yes, most of Bishop's material is a lazy flow that is is not impressive but he has show than he can spit and sound like a dope MC - I'm ill & Megatron Remix come to mind. Don't get me wrong because I understand what you're saying. If anything this is Bishop's biggest problem. His vocals are lazy and he comes off as a hater. Instead of rapping about other rappers he should be rapping about something else and improving his vocals.
Note, I've always said an ideal westcoast mc would be a mix between bishop (song writing, lyrics) and game (vocals).
2) If Game & Buck had that it factor they would've blown up without 50. They didn't. After 50, Game's managed to stay on a level without losing too much & Buck has disappeared. Buck the World was barely geting spins. Shit barely sold and 50 had little involvement.
3) ugh, Isn't that the issue with game? Game is always being outshined by his beats. Read most reviews of his albums and the main focus is his beats and how he's an average
Game got his album released and was pushed by the machine. If Bishop or Stat were to have the same done to them I'm pretty damn sure they'd be in a similar situation as Game.
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rumors.......
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This is definitely a rumor.
As for the 50 Cent talk with how he need to reunite with Game-Buck? It's like people only want to see it because it's not there anymore. It makes a fun story but musically, anyone outside of the hardcore rap fans isn't gonna give two shits for the most part. People treat Young Buck and Game like they were the key formula with G-Unit because they got some buzz off saying "Fuck 50".
And I think the Internet cats even thinking that 50 gives a shit about the Ashanti-Dre photo/studio session need to start using a grown-up brain for once. He already addressed the Game-Dre deal, which could realistically be a problem but Ashanti? She's an R&B singer who 50 jabbed at because she was the female artist on his rival label at the time. It was vey clearly never a beef. He made jokes about her and what have you but do you really think her working with Dre matters to him? She's not associated with Ja Rule anymore. She's never really gone heavy at him. You think he's sitting around pissed about Dre working with her for a song or two when he's not bugged out over Dre doing production for an artist that is still actively dissing him a little bit and was doing so for almost 5 years?
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Props to meho for this thread, he def spittin truth as far as im concerned.
50 to get back big basically needs to start dropping heat again, its really that simple. Get himself back within the industry, stop hatin on everyone big and start meshing with whats hot right now and then find his attitude wwithin it again and make music. Joining with cats like game and buck would be big news for him, especially game but regardless of that, dudes needs to look no further than jay-z and rebuild. Jigga jumped on 50z bandwagon after nas killed him with stillmatic, got on tours with whats hot and started getting new music out quick and soon the hea started coming. 50 needs to get with the producers who'll make him hits and get bangin music out again. Interscope were huge in what 50 was but i think a fresh move somewhere else would probably be good for him aslong as he can get to release his shit with major backing still...again jigga an example. Note im not a big fan of either to be honest, but i respecy boths hustle. Jigga staying relevant and how 50 made so much money in such a short window.
As for Game, being outshine by his production? Thats something new, i never heard that one before. What reviews y'all been reading? I accept the production on his albums, especially his first was amazing and his second was straight on point...but outshone? Not one bit imo...he held it down fully on joints with huge production, 'compton' was a big beat, dreams, start from scratch, hate it or love it, how we do...he got outshone by the production? Maybe 50 came better than him at times, but noone i know has ever said he got outshone...and thats def bullshit as far as im concerned, he was never overwhelmed by the beat because of his vocal presence and his confidence on a track even without being the greatest lyricist. Obie trice is an example i can give of someone who was definately blamed for being outshone/overwhelmed by the production of his album. I was active when cheers dropped and i remember him being given some major beats and them pretty much being wasted by him. He didnt do bad...he jus never did anything good on it...always outshone by the guest or wishing someone else had spit on it instead, i remember alot of cats speakin on that at the time. Not with game. His album just got major props for how clean the production was...not that game couldnt handle it.
As for the 'it' factor, again i agree, game definately had it. It came out more after the push and his confidence rose once the gunit hype can in too but he def had it. His 'it; factor is shown on his mixtape joints before and between Documentary and DA imo. Def agree with action it can be honed with time too but very few cats have that 'it' factor and 10 year lifespan within music, especially hiphop so not many are lucky enough to have have that chance. I respecy game even more for being a westcoast nigga and stayin relevant.
As for bishop-nah, never had it imo. Bobby creekwater, never had it. Cashis, never had it. STAT could have in my opinion done more with his career even in a niche way but when u check the swag of other south niggaz, he aint even close to the it factor when u got cats like ti, luda and wayne. He aint fuckin with that even closely. Joel ortiz kinda has found his base, not sure where he really belongs yet...debatable but def with the others, nah.
As for shady records, even if they were signed to interscope or not, there label was wack.
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I understand what you're saying but I don't necessary agree.
1) Yes, most of Bishop's material is a lazy flow that is is not impressive but he has show than he can spit and sound like a dope MC - I'm ill & Megatron Remix come to mind. Don't get me wrong because I understand what you're saying. If anything this is Bishop's biggest problem. His vocals are lazy and he comes off as a hater. Instead of rapping about other rappers he should be rapping about something else and improving his vocals.
Note, I've always said an ideal westcoast mc would be a mix between bishop (song writing, lyrics) and game (vocals).
2) If Game & Buck had that it factor they would've blown up without 50. They didn't. After 50, Game's managed to stay on a level without losing too much & Buck has disappeared. Buck the World was barely geting spins. Shit barely sold and 50 had little involvement.
3) ugh, Isn't that the issue with game? Game is always being outshined by his beats. Read most reviews of his albums and the main focus is his beats and how he's an average
Game got his album released and was pushed by the machine. If Bishop or Stat were to have the same done to them I'm pretty damn sure they'd be in a similar situation as Game.
Stacee Adamz comes to mind.
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since when did Eminem start caring about Stat Quo again?
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since when did Eminem start caring about Stat Quo again?
didn't they fall out cause stat wanted to use a dre track (here we go) as opposed to an em produced joint as his lead single. sounded like em was a bit of a penis about it, i mean who wouldn't want a dre track over some shitty eminem production.
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since when did Eminem start caring about Stat Quo again?
didn't they fall out cause stat wanted to use a dre track (here we go) as opposed to an em produced joint as his lead single. sounded like em was a bit of a penis about it, i mean who wouldn't want a dre track over some shitty eminem production.
yeah something like that
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Just do it already.
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It might be true,seeing as the slaughterhouse seemed to be done but something was holding it up.
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he is gona sing with cash money :D :D