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Title: (top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: Don Seer on December 03, 2002, 06:20:10 AM
(to be followed by (top 10?)  political ones when we've thrashed this out)

my #1 the controversial 'Life of Brian' from the Monty Python crew.

IMDB entry : http://us.imdb.com/Title?0079470

my #2 Stigmata http://us.imdb.com/Plot?0145531

"Father Andrew Kiernan (Gabriel Byrne), a researcher of miracles on behalf of the Vatican, must discover the truth behind hairdresser Frankie Paige (Patricia Arquette), who exhibits the Stigmata, the physical wounds Christ received from his crucifixion. His investigation is riddled with questions as he is torn between helping Frankie and revealing the discovery of a long-lost Gospel that would spell disaster for the future of the Catholic church."

my #3 Malcom X as played by Denzel http://us.imdb.com/Title?0104797




ps

Maybe we could have a vote or something once we have a collection of suggestions

Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: Nostromoo on December 03, 2002, 10:47:28 AM
For the list:

Ben Hur (http://uk.imdb.com/Title?0052618)
End of Days (http://uk.imdb.com/Title?0146675)
Monty Python / Holy Grail (http://uk.imdb.com/Title?0071853) (might as well if you're listing LoB)
Bedazzled (http://uk.imdb.com/Title?0061391)
The 10 Commandments (http://uk.imdb.com/Title?0049833)

Also, if you want to count non monotheistic religions you've got loads more to choose from. Stargate, All the films about ancient Greeks (Jason and the Argonaughts etc.) etc. Do you want to list them too?
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: Trauma-san on December 03, 2002, 06:21:42 PM
My favorite is the ten commandments.  Don't really know of any more public ones that I really feel, theres a couple mormon ones that rock but they're not official releases or anything.  
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: infinite59 on December 03, 2002, 06:23:51 PM
#1- Malcolm X-  Best movie ever made.
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: budsmokeronly on December 03, 2002, 06:26:06 PM
Terminator
T2
Predator
Pulp Fiction
Blow
Freddy got fingered
Resevoir Dogs
Scarface
Showgirls
Casper the ghost
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: Don Jacob on December 03, 2002, 06:31:36 PM
#1- Malcolm X-  Best movie ever made.


are you saying that becuase of the quality of the movie or becuase it's about a muslum?


to say that X is the best movie ever is like saying a michael W SMith (christian singer) album is the best ever simply cuz he's christian  or saying POD is the best rock band ever cuz they're christian

in all fairness Citizen Kane The Godfather Apacolypse now Ragin Bull and Casablanca are SUPERIOR films to X
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: infinite59 on December 03, 2002, 06:48:15 PM
#1- Malcolm X-  Best movie ever made.


are you saying that becuase of the quality of the movie or becuase it's about a muslum?


to say that X is the best movie ever is like saying a michael W SMith (christian singer) album is the best ever simply cuz he's christian  or saying POD is the best rock band ever cuz they're christian

in all fairness Citizen Kane The Godfather Apacolypse now Ragin Bull and Casablanca are SUPERIOR films to X

I'm sorry I don't agree with your instructor in College Film Class 101.
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: Trauma-san on December 03, 2002, 07:09:34 PM
^^ Basically; infinite doesn't agree with anybody about anything, that's why classical music is all trash and Quincy Jones isn't even on the level of beats by the pound.  Anything white people would like, HE WOULDNT because he wouldn't want us all to think he's a redneck, or a hillbilly, or a racist (gasp) so he's so ignorant, he accidentally overdoes it, and hates anything that would reveal his culture.  Peace~
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: Don Jacob on December 03, 2002, 07:10:09 PM



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I'm sorry I don't agree with your instructor in College Film Class 101.



who said i'veever taken those classes?

my speciality is music bud i study that yo...

BUT anyone who knows anything about cinema  knows whats up


what you're saying  about x is just as ignorant and the exact equivalant to an 11 year old girl syaing ja rule is the best rapper no matter what .....there's a difference between personal preference and common scence..im sorry you don't know the difference
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: Don Jacob on December 03, 2002, 07:15:59 PM
^^ Basically; infinite doesn't agree with anybody about anything, that's why classical music is all trash and Quincy Jones isn't even on the level of beats by the pound.  Anything white people would like, HE WOULDNT because he wouldn't want us all to think he's a redneck, or a hillbilly, or a racist (gasp) so he's so ignorant, he accidentally overdoes it, and hates anything that would reveal his culture.  Peace~

lol yeah so i've noticed

Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: Woodrow on December 03, 2002, 07:20:35 PM
I don't think it's one of the 10 best, but I thought Dogma was fairly entertaining.
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: Don Jacob on December 03, 2002, 07:36:11 PM
I don't think it's one of the 10 best, but I thought Dogma was fairly entertaining.


see that's what i'm talking about knowing the difference between personal preference and common scence man i can applaud that


ps i liked dogma too
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: Trauma-san on December 03, 2002, 07:51:45 PM
I don't think it's one of the 10 best, but I thought Dogma was fairly entertaining.

Me too, lol.  I thought having Alanis Morrisette as God was hilarious.  I went with some friends (other mormons) and this girl I know tha'ts really uptight said it was horrible, she didn't like that they portrayed God as being interested in flowers, and doing handstands and falling on his head, HAHAHA.  My opinion was, If I could be God, that's EXACTLY what I'd do, I'd just roll in the grass and stuff like a kid.  LOL.  I'd never thought of it like that till I saw the movie, though.  
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 03, 2002, 09:01:18 PM
#1- Malcolm X-  Best movie ever made.
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 03, 2002, 09:04:44 PM
oh yeah one more thing

who the fuck are you 2 to jump on infinites back cuz he stated his opinion? is infinite the president of the academy awards? is his opinion the established rule of nature? he stated his opinion...and you guys jumped on it..then u claim he's closeminded....no beef guys, but i call it how i see it...and what i see is str8 close mindness


wtf?
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: Trauma-san on December 03, 2002, 11:23:26 PM
Like said, the same reason you would probably jump all over some body and say they're an idiot for saying nelly is the greatest rapper of all time when they'd never heard any of the greats.  Ignorance is appalling when it's intolerant.  



On another note, Infinite is also a bitch, who's openly attacked my religion on numerous occasions, so I'll tend to view him negatively, thankyouverymuch.  
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: Don Seer on December 04, 2002, 01:55:22 AM
the funniest thing in dogma was the updated statue of jesus.
you can actually buy these online

(http://www.anotheruniverse.com/MANIAgif/FGDOGBC.gif)

Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: Trauma-san on December 04, 2002, 02:17:54 AM
Yeah, my friend got mad at that too.  I thought it was awesome, LOL I don't see anything offensive about it at all.  She thinks harry potter promotes witchcraft, also, might I add  ::)
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: CharlieBrown on December 04, 2002, 02:24:56 AM
Clash of the Titans, I watched that all the time when i was a kid.
The Exorcist (even though nowadays it looks kinda shitty)
Is Malcolm X a religious film?
And Stigmata is one of the worst movies ever made in my opinion.
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: Trauma-san on December 04, 2002, 02:33:16 AM
I dunno about worst ever, but yeah, I thought it was pretty lame, too.  I get sick of the whole "oh lets make a movie about how corrupt the catholic church is" vibe.  It had some interesting parts too, but way too cynical.  
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: infinite59 on December 04, 2002, 02:48:14 AM
oh yeah one more thing

who the fuck are you 2 to jump on infinites back cuz he stated his opinion? is infinite the president of the academy awards? is his opinion the established rule of nature? he stated his opinion...and you guys jumped on it..then u claim he's closeminded....no beef guys, but i call it how i see it...and what i see is str8 close mindness


wtf?

Thanks brother Tech.  I mean... what is so suprising about an American Muslim enjoying a movie about one of the most popular American Muslims that ever lived?  

I don't know why that bothers them so much.  Anyway, thanks, peace.  
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: Murrow on December 06, 2002, 04:43:58 PM
How does religion play in T1 & T2?
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: budsmokeronly on December 06, 2002, 05:47:35 PM
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How does religion play in T1 & T2?

I am Ahnold.  You bow down to da mighty Ahnold.  And its not a tumah, its not a tumah.
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: Don Jacob on December 06, 2002, 11:16:18 PM
oh yeah one more thing

who the fuck are you 2 to jump on infinites back cuz he stated his opinion? is infinite the president of the academy awards? is his opinion the established rule of nature? he stated his opinion...and you guys jumped on it..then u claim he's closeminded....no beef guys, but i call it how i see it...and what i see is str8 close mindness


wtf?

Thanks brother Tech.  I mean... what is so suprising about an American Muslim enjoying a movie about one of the most popular American Muslims that ever lived?  

I don't know why that bothers them so much.  Anyway, thanks, peace.  

there's nothing wrong with saying that X is your favorite movie.....there's just something wrong with saying something blanket and ignorant as "it's the best movie ever"

hell my favorite movie of all time is probably "bullet" (the mustang movie) but i know better than to say "it's the best movie ever"

the war disc by ice cube is amongst one of my all time fav albums but i'd never put it in a top 100 albums of all time list (unless it was my all time fav list)


it just all boils down to common scense yo

just becuase YOU like it doesn't mean it's good and just becuase YOU DON"T like it doesn't mean it's bad .....i hate the way the beatles sing but they're great artists no matter what i think .....theres fact and opinion you just got to know where the lines end and start

and quit trying to twist this into a "i'm an anit muslum"

if you said the all time best movie was juice i'd be doing the same
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: budsmokeronly on December 07, 2002, 12:05:49 AM
^^^^^ What the hell is wrong with saying a movie is the best ever and how is it ignorance?  It is all in your own taste and opinion.  So they think malcolm X is the best movie ever, big deal.  Who the hell is to judge how a movie is one of the best ever or not.  Just because it isn't on some "official" list or something.  Seriously I don't understand what is wrong with saying that Malcolm X is the best movie ever.  Now I have never seen the movie, but it is all in your own oppinion.  I don't have a favorite movie, but I think doggystyle is the best album ever.  I am sure over at least 5 billion people would disagree with me.  Does that mean I am wrong?  Hell no.  Who is to judge this shit?  Judge it for yourself.  If u don't think it is the best ever than that is your oppinion.  They got their oppinions and you got yours, so just leave it at that.
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: Pillow on December 07, 2002, 12:08:39 AM
Jesus of nazareth
king of kings
the end days
mark of the beast
10 commandements
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: Don Jacob on December 07, 2002, 10:46:15 AM
^^^^^ What the hell is wrong with saying a movie is the best ever and how is it ignorance?  It is all in your own taste and opinion.  So they think malcolm X is the best movie ever, big deal.  Who the hell is to judge how a movie is one of the best ever or not.  Just because it isn't on some "official" list or something.  Seriously I don't understand what is wrong with saying that Malcolm X is the best movie ever.  Now I have never seen the movie, but it is all in your own oppinion.  I don't have a favorite movie, but I think doggystyle is the best album ever.  I am sure over at least 5 billion people would disagree with me.  Does that mean I am wrong?  Hell no.  Who is to judge this shit?  Judge it for yourself.  If u don't think it is the best ever than that is your oppinion.  They got their oppinions and you got yours, so just leave it at that.


you're missing the point

there's a difference between knowing and liking

if i said the clippers are the best team in the league point blank period right now....how ridiculous would that statement be

if i said the Mavs are the best team in the NBA today.....that logically makes scence


if i said master p is just a genius on the mic and he's just flat out the deepest and truest artist.....that would be my opinion but how riduculous and ignorant to the rest of the rappers in the industry would that make me be


if i said rakim or kool g rap was the best lyracist.....that would be very logical .....it'd still be an opinion but with more logic and fact behind it


the movie malcome X is a good movie, spike lee did a good job directing it, and denzel put on a good performance .....but that's all that it had going for it


if someone came  in saying "restless is the best album ever" i know  everyone here would be ripping that person apart . true restless had a good artist and executive producer (like malcome x) and is widely liked but it can't fuck with the classics


and again i'll say this one of my favorite movies is the Goonies but it's not even one of the 100 greatest movies .......theres a difference between common logic and personal bias
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 07, 2002, 02:04:10 PM
you know what i kinda feel what u sayin jake, u make sense
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: infinite59 on December 07, 2002, 02:18:31 PM
No.  Jake makes no sense.  Malcolm X was proffesionally done.  Every last scene is a masterpiece.  Spike Lee took no shorts in making this movie, and he didn't try to make it some hollywood B.S. like they did to Ali.  
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: budsmokeronly on December 07, 2002, 03:19:26 PM
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and again i'll say this one of my favorite movies is the Goonies but it's not even one of the 100 greatest movies .......theres a difference between common logic and personal bias

not even one of the 100 greatest movies ever?  Who the hell is the judge of that?  Just because someone makes a list of the 100 top movies ever that means that it is real?  C'mon man, don't tell me u fall into that crap.  Infinite thinks Malcolm X is the best movie ever.  So he believes that.  Just because you don't think it is, means that it isn't.  Or just because it is not on some fucking list.  
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: Don Jacob on December 08, 2002, 01:12:24 AM
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and again i'll say this one of my favorite movies is the Goonies but it's not even one of the 100 greatest movies .......theres a difference between common logic and personal bias

not even one of the 100 greatest movies ever?  Who the hell is the judge of that?  Just because someone makes a list of the 100 top movies ever that means that it is real?  C'mon man, don't tell me u fall into that crap.  Infinite thinks Malcolm X is the best movie ever.  So he believes that.  Just because you don't think it is, means that it isn't.  Or just because it is not on some fucking list.  

there is a difference between personal bias and common logic....it's not my fault that you and infinate fail to see that fine line

and infinate...tell me logically how malcom x is a better directed movie than apacolypse now? true x was a pretty good movie but don't make blanket statements when i doubt you can even tell me who francis ford copala is


and thank tech for seeing where i'm coming from here


i'm not mad at all here , i'm amused and tickled to death that someone would seriously say something like this....to rule out all of the movies that ever were in cinema (which im sure he's never seen even a quater of the heavy classics) and say something like that....it's amusing it's like saying "the shadiest one" by Dub c is just the greatest hip hop album


anyways i think that we should be talking about religious movies here not the so called "greatest movie of all time"
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: Don Seer on December 08, 2002, 02:46:57 AM
the point is. if malcom X were'nt about a muslim, but say for example was about a christian infinite wouldnt give 2 shits about it.
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 08, 2002, 04:06:25 PM
^ yes...if thats true..so what?

Malcolm X is Infinite and Mines fav movie because it applies to us
there is a bond...i mean when you have a FAVOURITE MOVIE, there is a reason why that particular movie has special merit with you

A movie about a converted american muslim will OBVIOUSLY appeal too a converted american muslim...
Title: Re:(top 10?) best religous movies
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on December 09, 2002, 04:05:55 AM
Nice thread Seer's. Religion is an interesting subject when it comes to films because alot of films have religious themes but at times are hidden if you know what I mean. Like, Films like "Malcolm X", "10 Commandments" etc have strong and obvious religious themes but there are others like "Lord Of The Rings" etc that have not so visible religious themes but their still there when you think about it.