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Title: Benzino speaks about the Eminem beef
Post by: Knuckles on December 05, 2002, 05:04:28 PM
Whether or not hip-hop needs saving, Ray Benzino has taken it upon himself to thwart those he feels are jeopardizing the culture. Namely, he's bothered by what he calls "the machine," and has been taking swipes lately at what he feels is the machine's biggest cog platinum poster child Eminem.

"I wanna be careful with the word 'beef,' because people could definitely take that and run with it with their own version of it," he said Tuesday about the war of words with rap's top record-seller (see "Benzino Ignites Beef By Calling Eminem '2003 Vanilla Ice' "). "I just call it a debate with my opinion on issues. Hip-hop came from the streets. It's gone mainstream, it's corporate, but it is part of culture. It breathes life into a lot of people. I just felt that on my first record where I went at Eminem, it wasn't so much about Em, it was about the machine. The way media outlets are taking what Eminem is doing and using it as a double standard for what other artists are doing.

"Eminem gets to do songs that we would never get to do," he added. "Eminem gets to talk about his issues and his pain ... killing his mother, beating his girl, drugs. We have to rock the party in order to get spins and burn on the radio. We have to entertain more than expose our true issues. When black and Latino people try to give our pain on there we couldn't get burn. The machine doesn't want our pain to be out there."

After Benzino threw barbs at Em and members of the Shady Records camp via a mixtape freestyle and a song called "Pull Your Skirt Up," Em and Obie Trice responded with their own street freestyles and songs such as "Nail in the Coffin" on a Shady Records mixtape titled Invasion.

Now Benzino has come back with a track called "Die Another Day," where, among other things, he calls D12 and Obie "house n---as," chastises other rappers who battle each other ("The so-called kings steady going at each other/ Doing songs with the devil while they fighting with their brother"), compares Em to racist figures ("You're the rap David Duke, you're the rap Hitler ... I'm the rap Malcolm [X], the rap Martin [Luther King]") and even has a few words for Em's daughter, warning that she may share the fate of Jon Benet Ramsey.

"Wordplay, it's all wordplay," Benzino, who is also the co-owner of The Source magazine, said about whether he really wants to get physically violent with Eminem. "I'm from the machine, I don't want to bring any harm to Marshall Mathers. At the same time, my message got across. I feel Eminem came at me personally. I think he feels that nobody should go at him.

"To me, he was just the hood ornament for the vehicle," Benzino continued. "By me going at the hood ornament, maybe I could put a small dent in the vehicle. I just wanted to raise consciousness. It's not like I'm hating on Eminem, its just a situation that had to be brought up."

Benzino even says he talked to Em's manager Paul Rosenberg about keeping the war of words verbal. A taped phone conversation between Benzino and a man he claims to be Rosenberg precedes Benzino's rhymes in "Die Another Day."

"We had a conversation about keeping it on record," Benzino said. "I gave him my views about why I did what I did. In my opinion he understood what I was saying. But like any manager, you're always trying to soften the blow. He was trying to be a buffer between me and Em."

Eminem and the Shady Records camp have refused to comment on the matter.

Meanwhile, Benzino has plenty more to say. He plans to release a mixtape filled with more disses and has recorded an official album called Redemption, which will drop in January.


Link to source: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1459003/20021205/eminem.jhtml?headlines=true
Title: Re:Benzino speaks about the Eminem beef
Post by: Knuckles on December 05, 2002, 05:07:34 PM
What a fag.  He'll keep this going as long as he can, so people can keep bringing up his name.  This is probably the first time MTV.com put news about him on.  Em should just keep quiet now and stop promoting him.  He already won.
Title: Re:Benzino speaks about the Eminem beef
Post by: Murrow on December 05, 2002, 05:10:07 PM
What a fag.  He'll keep this going as long as he can, so people can keep bringing up his name.  This is probably the first time MTV.com put news about him on.  Em should just keep quiet now and stop promoting him.  He already won.


True
Title: Re:Benzino speaks about the Eminem beef
Post by: _That_Cracka_J on December 05, 2002, 07:17:06 PM
Indeed.
Title: Re:Benzino speaks about the Eminem beef
Post by: Jome on December 05, 2002, 07:30:08 PM
What a fag.  He'll keep this going as long as he can, so people can keep bringing up his name.  This is probably the first time MTV.com put news about him on.  Em should just keep quiet now and stop promoting him.  He already won.


True.
At least he's doing a good job promoting his own album, as if 4-page ads in each The Source wasn't enough..
Title: Re:Benzino speaks about the Eminem beef
Post by: P Nelson on December 05, 2002, 09:50:29 PM
Albums coming soon..

---

January      

Benzino "Redemption" (f/ Juvenile, Foxy Brown, Prodigy, Mario Winans, & single "Rock The Party")
Crooked I "Say Hi to the Bad Guy"
DJ Kizzy Rock "The Realist"
Fabolous "Street Dreams" (f/ 50 Cent, Jadakiss, Ashanti, Mary j. Blige, & single "This Is My Party")
Killer Mike "Monster"
West Coast Ballin "Vol. 1"
----
Source:

http://www.rapindustry.com/Rap_Industry_new_releases.htm

LLOOL... if his beef with Eminem aint promotion... I dunno wut its called... at least hes mature enuff to keep it on wax
Title: Re:Benzino speaks about the Eminem beef
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on December 05, 2002, 10:24:20 PM
at least hes mature enuff to keep it on wax


No, He's a pussy 4 that.....lol @ matuare......He's suppose 2 be an ex drug dealer from tha mean streets of boston, puhahaha, This waz a strate Publicity Stunt and he pulled it off, but now hes hated on more than before......

but he still wins......cuz in this game, its better 2 be hated on than 2 go Unnoticed......Real Talk.







Title: Re:Benzino speaks about the Eminem beef
Post by: E. J. Rizo on December 05, 2002, 10:50:46 PM
Fabolous "Street Dreams" (f/ 50 Cent, Jadakiss, Ashanti,
Shady artist and Murder inc artist? same album?....lol
Title: Re:Benzino speaks about the Eminem beef
Post by: FILA::AUS on December 06, 2002, 01:56:51 AM
why dont ya'll like Benzino??? Man i loved Made Mens classic limited edition.

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Title: Re:Benzino speaks about the Eminem beef
Post by: West Coast Veteran on December 06, 2002, 02:16:48 AM
Benzino is fucking irritating. I seen him on Rap City yesterday and this clown is wacker than wack. He should just quit rapping. Isn't he happy making money off other things?

On a sidenote Big Tigger is the biggest faggot ever. I fuckin' hate that idiot.
Title: Re:Benzino speaks about the Eminem beef
Post by: The Watcher on December 06, 2002, 03:39:37 AM
"let it go dog, it's over"
Title: Re:Benzino speaks about the Eminem beef
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on December 06, 2002, 04:10:07 AM
What he said about blacks and latino's not being able to express their pain is complete BOOTY. Look at 2Pac, look at Ja Rule (every song he's whining about how 'pain is love'), and those two are some of the biggest selling artists in hip-hop today. And Em gets mocked and protested against for expressing his feelings so I don't know what Benzino is talking about. He's just trying to twist this so he can benefit from Em's fame, thats not respecting hip-hop, thats jeopordising it if anything.  
Title: Re:Benzino speaks about the Eminem beef
Post by: T-Dogg on December 06, 2002, 08:01:07 AM
This nigga is a prime example of a nigga bein "in the rap game only for the money & the fame". Promoting himself by dissing Eminem seems to be a good way of promotion. Hopefully cats realize that no matter what he says he's still wack and won't buy his album.
Title: Re:Benzino speaks about the Eminem beef
Post by: Braindead on December 06, 2002, 08:14:44 AM
Benzino's wack no matter how many times I say his name you'll never blow
Title: Re:Benzino speaks about the Eminem beef
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on December 06, 2002, 09:19:55 AM
"You're the rap David Duke, you're the rap Hitler ... I'm the rap Malcolm [X], the rap Martin [Luther King]"
This is so fuckin hilarious, it's a fuckin shame, how can he make such a fool of himslef..?



Eminem and the Shady Records camp have refused to comment on the matter.

might this mean they won't keep it on wax?

Title: Re:Benzino speaks about the Eminem beef
Post by: Cliche on December 07, 2002, 02:14:18 AM
"Hi, my name is Ray Benzino.  Even by saturating the market with promotion and four videos, I couldn't sell shit and now I'm not just a wack MC, but a bitter wack MC.  I'm going to play myself by taking on an MC who is immensely more talented than me, and who sold more in his first day twice, than I did in my entire career."
Title: Re:Benzino speaks about the Eminem beef
Post by: bez on December 07, 2002, 05:50:56 PM
sorry but I aint heard shit of  benzino's but the em diss was solid as fuck.  Considering all the hype surrownding crooked I, After that track I would much rather sit down and listen to Benzino.  Everyone has told me this and that about Crooked I but still he dont appeal to me.  
Title: Re:Benzino speaks about the Eminem beef
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on December 08, 2002, 06:17:38 AM
sorry but I aint heard shit of  benzino's but the em diss was solid as fuck.  Considering all the hype surrownding crooked I, After that track I would much rather sit down and listen to Benzino.  Everyone has told me this and that about Crooked I but still he dont appeal to me.  

To be honest when I first heard "Pull Up Your Skirt" I thought it was quite good considering it was coming from Benzino, I thought it was pointless and a bit pathetic coming at Em like that but it was a good diss.......until Em came back and completely shamed him. It's all been down hill since then imo, Benzino's has just made himself appear even more pathetic, especially bringing haille into it, he reckons he was doing it for the streets and for hip-hop but everything he was saying in his last diss was personal and didn't touch on anything hip-hop related, he just made himself look stupid and contradictive.
Title: Re:Benzino speaks about the Eminem beef
Post by: EM28 on December 08, 2002, 07:29:16 PM
Fuck Benzino.  He's such a fag.
Title: Re:Benzino speaks about the Eminem beef
Post by: Trauma-san on December 09, 2002, 01:47:33 PM


On a sidenote Big Tigger is the biggest faggot ever. I fuckin' hate that idiot.

BLASPHEME!!!!!!!