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Title: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: ikke on April 24, 2010, 12:28:51 AM
Has anybody else heard comments like this?
Firstly, what religious propaganda convinced people that every mass-murderer of the 20th century was an atheists. No Question Stalin Was an atheists but Hitler wasn't, just another Christian hating the Jews. Either way it was still religious people doing their dirty work.

Secondly, even if all those mass-murderers are atheists it's still a hands full of them against practically every other mass-murder that has ever walked this earth.
The Jews wiped out entire cultures, Christians at one point killed every non-christian in their community, the Muslim crusade took many lives as well and it's atheists with the bad morals because of 2 people.

"If You look at the World's history God seems to be the leading cause of death"
Quote from Carlin I think.

People have an sense of ethics regardless of Religion.
It's an evolutionary characteristic that we all have, some more then others.
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Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: morbidenigma on April 24, 2010, 12:58:28 AM
what about Marx, Mao Zedong & Sun Tzu ? they were brutal mass murderers who were Atheists.

People kill people. Religious & Atheists alike. fuck an atheist wanting to give himself a superiority complex. I don't know whose smugness & certitude is more annoying, religious freaks or atheist maggots.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Bananas on April 24, 2010, 01:07:17 AM
I haven't heard comments like this.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: ikke on April 24, 2010, 01:10:09 AM
what about Marx, Mao Zedong & Sun Tzu ? they were brutal mass murderers who were Atheists.

People kill people. Religious & Atheists alike. fuck an atheist wanting to give himself a superiority complex. I don't know whose smugness & certitude is more annoying, religious freaks or atheist maggots.
Just pointing out the hypocracy.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: ikke on April 24, 2010, 06:01:35 AM
THis is exactly What I mean:

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***Then what about all those speeches where hitler says he's religious*** He would say anything to achieve his perverted agenda. More proof he was a devout atheist.

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Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 24, 2010, 02:33:35 PM
People kill people. Religious & Atheists alike. fuck an atheist wanting to give himself a superiority complex. I don't know whose smugness & certitude is more annoying, religious freaks or atheist maggots.
SO TRUE.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Sikotic™ on April 24, 2010, 04:52:52 PM
Christians and Muslims have killed more people throughout history than Hitler or Stalin could of ever done.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Shallow on April 25, 2010, 05:17:31 PM
Christians and Muslims have killed more people throughout history than Hitler or Stalin could of ever done.


That makes no sense. You're comparing the number of people killed by anyone associating themselves as Christian or Muslim to that of two individual men. For arguments sake let's say that since Christ appeared and people started calling themselves Christian there have been 500 million killers in history who identified themselves as Christian. Throw in another 300 million killers who consider themselves Muslim and you have 800 million people who are killers. So I would think that 800 million killers would have killed more people than two killers; Hitler and Stalin.


And to the OP; who cares what people say. If they think killing would be any less with more religion, than they're just as stupid as people that think killing would be any less with no religion. It all balances itself out. Even in ass backward parts of India where they have honor killings. More atheists die every year of high cholesterol related heart attacks than brothers killing their sisters for shaming the family in the eyes of Vishnu, and because they only eat organic food over there, none of them die of high cholesterol related heart attacks. I don't like Paul McCartney, but he was right about one thing; Live and let die.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: ikke on April 26, 2010, 02:14:29 AM

That makes no sense. You're comparing the number of people killed by anyone associating themselves as Christian or Muslim to that of two individual men. For arguments sake let's say that since Christ appeared and people started calling themselves Christian there have been 500 million killers in history who identified themselves as Christian. Throw in another 300 million killers who consider themselves Muslim and you have 800 million people who are killers. So I would think that 800 million killers would have killed more people than two killers; Hitler and Stalin.
It does make sense.
Religious people say only atheists have no morals and therefore do things like Stalin & Hitler when the Truth is Religious people are just as guilty of these actions.


And to the OP; who cares what people say. If they think killing would be any less with more religion, than they're just as stupid as people that think killing would be any less with no religion. It all balances itself out. Even in ass backward parts of India where they have honor killings. More atheists die every year of high cholesterol related heart attacks than brothers killing their sisters for shaming the family in the eyes of Vishnu, and because they only eat organic food over there, none of them die of high cholesterol related heart attacks. I don't like Paul McCartney, but he was right about one thing; Live and let die.
Did you just say all atheists are fat?
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Sikotic™ on April 26, 2010, 03:36:11 AM
Christians and Muslims have killed more people throughout history than Hitler or Stalin could of ever done.


That makes no sense. You're comparing the number of people killed by anyone associating themselves as Christian or Muslim to that of two individual men. For arguments sake let's say that since Christ appeared and people started calling themselves Christian there have been 500 million killers in history who identified themselves as Christian. Throw in another 300 million killers who consider themselves Muslim and you have 800 million people who are killers. So I would think that 800 million killers would have killed more people than two killers; Hitler and Stalin.
More people have been killed in the name of Christ and Allah than Hitler and Stalin have killed people int he name of their own causes. So yes, I agree with what you said.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Blasphemy on April 26, 2010, 08:05:45 AM
Christians and Muslims have killed more people throughout history than Hitler or Stalin could of ever done.


That makes no sense. You're comparing the number of people killed by anyone associating themselves as Christian or Muslim to that of two individual men. For arguments sake let's say that since Christ appeared and people started calling themselves Christian there have been 500 million killers in history who identified themselves as Christian. Throw in another 300 million killers who consider themselves Muslim and you have 800 million people who are killers. So I would think that 800 million killers would have killed more people than two killers; Hitler and Stalin.
More people have been killed in the name of Christ and Allah than Hitler and Stalin have killed people int he name of their own causes. So yes, I agree with what you said.

Are you just assuming this IE I killed a guy, check his Religion and adding to your numbers??? Because in the end, a killer who happens to be a Christian versus a Killer doing it BECAUSE he is a Christian, and is doing it for Religion is different. The Death Toll in that respect isn't 800million, infact you're garnering it over a matter of years. Hitler and Stalin killed a ton not even a 1/3 of that time frame of passing by.

In the end though, Either way it shows how people can utilize mankinds fears for personal gain. Churchs control there Flock using God and the FEAR of Damnation, Hitler used Germanys rising issues and fears in a seemlier manner, Both promised good and utilized there tactics in the name of Hope (Religion saving you into a Heavenly Sanctuary), Hitler promising a better Germany.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Sikotic™ on April 26, 2010, 03:35:46 PM
Christians and Muslims have killed more people throughout history than Hitler or Stalin could of ever done.


That makes no sense. You're comparing the number of people killed by anyone associating themselves as Christian or Muslim to that of two individual men. For arguments sake let's say that since Christ appeared and people started calling themselves Christian there have been 500 million killers in history who identified themselves as Christian. Throw in another 300 million killers who consider themselves Muslim and you have 800 million people who are killers. So I would think that 800 million killers would have killed more people than two killers; Hitler and Stalin.
More people have been killed in the name of Christ and Allah than Hitler and Stalin have killed people int he name of their own causes. So yes, I agree with what you said.

Are you just assuming this IE I killed a guy, check his Religion and adding to your numbers??? Because in the end, a killer who happens to be a Christian versus a Killer doing it BECAUSE he is a Christian, and is doing it for Religion is different. The Death Toll in that respect isn't 800million, infact you're garnering it over a matter of years. Hitler and Stalin killed a ton not even a 1/3 of that time frame of passing by.

In the end though, Either way it shows how people can utilize mankinds fears for personal gain. Churchs control there Flock using God and the FEAR of Damnation, Hitler used Germanys rising issues and fears in a seemlier manner, Both promised good and utilized there tactics in the name of Hope (Religion saving you into a Heavenly Sanctuary), Hitler promising a better Germany.
Of course I'm not talking about people who murder and happen to be of a certain faith. I'm referring to people killing in the name of their faith or their god.

And how is time frame relevant? I was simply referring to the quote in the topic. It's not my opinion that Christians and Muslims have killed more than Hitler and Stalin: its fact. That's all I'm sayin', there's really no argument to it lol.

I agree with you on how easily people can be manipulated though.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Blasphemy on April 27, 2010, 08:16:35 AM
Christians and Muslims have killed more people throughout history than Hitler or Stalin could of ever done.


That makes no sense. You're comparing the number of people killed by anyone associating themselves as Christian or Muslim to that of two individual men. For arguments sake let's say that since Christ appeared and people started calling themselves Christian there have been 500 million killers in history who identified themselves as Christian. Throw in another 300 million killers who consider themselves Muslim and you have 800 million people who are killers. So I would think that 800 million killers would have killed more people than two killers; Hitler and Stalin.
More people have been killed in the name of Christ and Allah than Hitler and Stalin have killed people int he name of their own causes. So yes, I agree with what you said.

Are you just assuming this IE I killed a guy, check his Religion and adding to your numbers??? Because in the end, a killer who happens to be a Christian versus a Killer doing it BECAUSE he is a Christian, and is doing it for Religion is different. The Death Toll in that respect isn't 800million, infact you're garnering it over a matter of years. Hitler and Stalin killed a ton not even a 1/3 of that time frame of passing by.

In the end though, Either way it shows how people can utilize mankinds fears for personal gain. Churchs control there Flock using God and the FEAR of Damnation, Hitler used Germanys rising issues and fears in a seemlier manner, Both promised good and utilized there tactics in the name of Hope (Religion saving you into a Heavenly Sanctuary), Hitler promising a better Germany.
Of course I'm not talking about people who murder and happen to be of a certain faith. I'm referring to people killing in the name of their faith or their god.

And how is time frame relevant? I was simply referring to the quote in the topic. It's not my opinion that Christians and Muslims have killed more than Hitler and Stalin: its fact. That's all I'm sayin', there's really no argument to it lol.

I agree with you on how easily people can be manipulated though.

Time frame is always relevant just to get a perspective. If Hitler or Stalin had a bigger reign then the death toll would be more. In the Grand Scheme though all that time with all the Relgious Crusades would always outline just what was it 8 years of rule (Can't Remember). It's like comparing a incident lasting 10 years (Hitler, Stalin), with other incidents that are in the time frame of 1000.

I do believe the the Church can probably kill way more then Hilter and Stalin in the Grand Scheme, but in the same time frame???

Still either way its not really correct. Take Christianity, killing is strictly forbidden in the bible, was listed as one of the original 10 commandments said to be by God himself. So Just because the Pope a man, has rule over the Church doesn't mean he can override The Creators original doctrine. Hell Muslim extremist have corrupted what it originally meant to Martyr ones self.

Dying in a shoot out isn't martyrdom it's just you dieing for cause mass destruction.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: ikke on April 27, 2010, 08:21:33 AM
Christians and Muslims have killed more people throughout history than Hitler or Stalin could of ever done.


That makes no sense. You're comparing the number of people killed by anyone associating themselves as Christian or Muslim to that of two individual men. For arguments sake let's say that since Christ appeared and people started calling themselves Christian there have been 500 million killers in history who identified themselves as Christian. Throw in another 300 million killers who consider themselves Muslim and you have 800 million people who are killers. So I would think that 800 million killers would have killed more people than two killers; Hitler and Stalin.
More people have been killed in the name of Christ and Allah than Hitler and Stalin have killed people int he name of their own causes. So yes, I agree with what you said.

Are you just assuming this IE I killed a guy, check his Religion and adding to your numbers??? Because in the end, a killer who happens to be a Christian versus a Killer doing it BECAUSE he is a Christian, and is doing it for Religion is different. The Death Toll in that respect isn't 800million, infact you're garnering it over a matter of years. Hitler and Stalin killed a ton not even a 1/3 of that time frame of passing by.

In the end though, Either way it shows how people can utilize mankinds fears for personal gain. Churchs control there Flock using God and the FEAR of Damnation, Hitler used Germanys rising issues and fears in a seemlier manner, Both promised good and utilized there tactics in the name of Hope (Religion saving you into a Heavenly Sanctuary), Hitler promising a better Germany.
Of course I'm not talking about people who murder and happen to be of a certain faith. I'm referring to people killing in the name of their faith or their god.

And how is time frame relevant? I was simply referring to the quote in the topic. It's not my opinion that Christians and Muslims have killed more than Hitler and Stalin: its fact. That's all I'm sayin', there's really no argument to it lol.

I agree with you on how easily people can be manipulated though.

Time frame is always relevant just to get a perspective. If Hitler or Stalin had a bigger reign then the death toll would be more. In the Grand Scheme though all that time with all the Relgious Crusades would always outline just what was it 8 years of rule (Can't Remember). It's like comparing a incident lasting 10 years (Hitler, Stalin), with other incidents that are in the time frame of 1000.

I do believe the the Church can probably kill way more then Hilter and Stalin in the Grand Scheme, but in the same time frame???

Still either way its not really correct. Take Christianity, killing is strictly forbidden in the bible, was listed as one of the original 10 commandments said to be by God himself. So Just because the Pope a man, has rule over the Church doesn't mean he can override The Creators original doctrine. Hell Muslim extremist have corrupted what it originally meant to Martyr ones self.

Dying in a shoot out isn't martyrdom it's just you dieing for cause mass destruction.
THe point is that religious people do the same.

Actually the commandment originally meant don't kill other jews.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Shallow on April 27, 2010, 09:12:55 AM
Christians and Muslims have killed more people throughout history than Hitler or Stalin could of ever done.


That makes no sense. You're comparing the number of people killed by anyone associating themselves as Christian or Muslim to that of two individual men. For arguments sake let's say that since Christ appeared and people started calling themselves Christian there have been 500 million killers in history who identified themselves as Christian. Throw in another 300 million killers who consider themselves Muslim and you have 800 million people who are killers. So I would think that 800 million killers would have killed more people than two killers; Hitler and Stalin.
More people have been killed in the name of Christ and Allah than Hitler and Stalin have killed people int he name of their own causes. So yes, I agree with what you said.

And more people have been killed in the name of love than killed by Hitler and Stalin combined. Should that in any way reflect the idea of two people falling in love? More people have been in killed in the name food too? Should we somehow equate feeding yourself with evil.

People kill people because people are stupid. And stupid people needs justification for their stupidity. If some nut who killed someone needs to say it was Jesus he did it for to make himself feel better then good for him. But that has nothing to do with Jesus. Hitler and Stalin on the other hand killed people and said it right to do so. Jesus never told me to kill anyone.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Shallow on April 27, 2010, 09:14:29 AM

That makes no sense. You're comparing the number of people killed by anyone associating themselves as Christian or Muslim to that of two individual men. For arguments sake let's say that since Christ appeared and people started calling themselves Christian there have been 500 million killers in history who identified themselves as Christian. Throw in another 300 million killers who consider themselves Muslim and you have 800 million people who are killers. So I would think that 800 million killers would have killed more people than two killers; Hitler and Stalin.
It does make sense.
Religious people say only atheists have no morals and therefore do things like Stalin & Hitler when the Truth is Religious people are just as guilty of these actions.


And to the OP; who cares what people say. If they think killing would be any less with more religion, than they're just as stupid as people that think killing would be any less with no religion. It all balances itself out. Even in ass backward parts of India where they have honor killings. More atheists die every year of high cholesterol related heart attacks than brothers killing their sisters for shaming the family in the eyes of Vishnu, and because they only eat organic food over there, none of them die of high cholesterol related heart attacks. I don't like Paul McCartney, but he was right about one thing; Live and let die.
Did you just say all atheists are fat?


Maybe if they believed in a God to help guide them they wouldn't be so fat.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Sikotic™ on April 27, 2010, 12:02:47 PM
Christians and Muslims have killed more people throughout history than Hitler or Stalin could of ever done.


That makes no sense. You're comparing the number of people killed by anyone associating themselves as Christian or Muslim to that of two individual men. For arguments sake let's say that since Christ appeared and people started calling themselves Christian there have been 500 million killers in history who identified themselves as Christian. Throw in another 300 million killers who consider themselves Muslim and you have 800 million people who are killers. So I would think that 800 million killers would have killed more people than two killers; Hitler and Stalin.
More people have been killed in the name of Christ and Allah than Hitler and Stalin have killed people int he name of their own causes. So yes, I agree with what you said.

Are you just assuming this IE I killed a guy, check his Religion and adding to your numbers??? Because in the end, a killer who happens to be a Christian versus a Killer doing it BECAUSE he is a Christian, and is doing it for Religion is different. The Death Toll in that respect isn't 800million, infact you're garnering it over a matter of years. Hitler and Stalin killed a ton not even a 1/3 of that time frame of passing by.

In the end though, Either way it shows how people can utilize mankinds fears for personal gain. Churchs control there Flock using God and the FEAR of Damnation, Hitler used Germanys rising issues and fears in a seemlier manner, Both promised good and utilized there tactics in the name of Hope (Religion saving you into a Heavenly Sanctuary), Hitler promising a better Germany.
Of course I'm not talking about people who murder and happen to be of a certain faith. I'm referring to people killing in the name of their faith or their god.

And how is time frame relevant? I was simply referring to the quote in the topic. It's not my opinion that Christians and Muslims have killed more than Hitler and Stalin: its fact. That's all I'm sayin', there's really no argument to it lol.

I agree with you on how easily people can be manipulated though.

Time frame is always relevant just to get a perspective. If Hitler or Stalin had a bigger reign then the death toll would be more. In the Grand Scheme though all that time with all the Relgious Crusades would always outline just what was it 8 years of rule (Can't Remember). It's like comparing a incident lasting 10 years (Hitler, Stalin), with other incidents that are in the time frame of 1000.
Okay, but the fact that the world would not tolerate the mass murders committed by Hitler, yet allowed the Crusades to devastate the world speaks volumes about the power of religion and how it can be used for total destruction instead of salvation.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Shallow on April 27, 2010, 05:48:15 PM
Christians and Muslims have killed more people throughout history than Hitler or Stalin could of ever done.


That makes no sense. You're comparing the number of people killed by anyone associating themselves as Christian or Muslim to that of two individual men. For arguments sake let's say that since Christ appeared and people started calling themselves Christian there have been 500 million killers in history who identified themselves as Christian. Throw in another 300 million killers who consider themselves Muslim and you have 800 million people who are killers. So I would think that 800 million killers would have killed more people than two killers; Hitler and Stalin.
More people have been killed in the name of Christ and Allah than Hitler and Stalin have killed people int he name of their own causes. So yes, I agree with what you said.

Are you just assuming this IE I killed a guy, check his Religion and adding to your numbers??? Because in the end, a killer who happens to be a Christian versus a Killer doing it BECAUSE he is a Christian, and is doing it for Religion is different. The Death Toll in that respect isn't 800million, infact you're garnering it over a matter of years. Hitler and Stalin killed a ton not even a 1/3 of that time frame of passing by.

In the end though, Either way it shows how people can utilize mankinds fears for personal gain. Churchs control there Flock using God and the FEAR of Damnation, Hitler used Germanys rising issues and fears in a seemlier manner, Both promised good and utilized there tactics in the name of Hope (Religion saving you into a Heavenly Sanctuary), Hitler promising a better Germany.
Of course I'm not talking about people who murder and happen to be of a certain faith. I'm referring to people killing in the name of their faith or their god.

And how is time frame relevant? I was simply referring to the quote in the topic. It's not my opinion that Christians and Muslims have killed more than Hitler and Stalin: its fact. That's all I'm sayin', there's really no argument to it lol.

I agree with you on how easily people can be manipulated though.

Time frame is always relevant just to get a perspective. If Hitler or Stalin had a bigger reign then the death toll would be more. In the Grand Scheme though all that time with all the Relgious Crusades would always outline just what was it 8 years of rule (Can't Remember). It's like comparing a incident lasting 10 years (Hitler, Stalin), with other incidents that are in the time frame of 1000.
Okay, but the fact that the world would not tolerate the mass murders committed by Hitler, yet allowed the Crusades to devastate the world speaks volumes about the power of religion and how it can be used for total destruction instead of salvation.


Wait a minute. I never read about any organized death camps during the crusades of innocent people being rounded up and killed for no reason. The crusades were a war between two religious factions, and the Muslims were killing Christians and taking over land just like the Christians were. Spain was taken over by Muslims. SPAIN! That'd be like people in concentration camps taking over Italy. It wasn't possible.

And what did the world do to oppose Hitler's evil idea of killing people? Nuke two Japanese islands and bomb the shit out of every country associated with Germany, then had over land to Stalin for helping them defeat Hitler. Give me a fucking break man.

You're just picking on religion because you don't like stuck up evangelicals with a superiority complex. That's how it comes across to me anyway.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: ikke on April 28, 2010, 06:22:08 AM

Wait a minute. I never read about any organized death camps during the crusades of innocent people being rounded up and killed for no reason. The crusades were a war between two religious factions, and the Muslims were killing Christians and taking over land just like the Christians were. Spain was taken over by Muslims. SPAIN! That'd be like people in concentration camps taking over Italy. It wasn't possible.

And what did the world do to oppose Hitler's evil idea of killing people? Nuke two Japanese islands and bomb the shit out of every country associated with Germany, then had over land to Stalin for helping them defeat Hitler. Give me a fucking break man.

You're just picking on religion because you don't like stuck up evangelicals with a superiority complex. That's how it comes across to me anyway.
I recommend you to revisit the old testament.
Jews wiped out entire cultures.

There weren't any organized death camps because they just killed everybody right away.
Spain wasn't taken over by Muslims, just a small part in the south.
That's like saying Cubans took over america because they took over in miami


That makes no sense. You're comparing the number of people killed by anyone associating themselves as Christian or Muslim to that of two individual men. For arguments sake let's say that since Christ appeared and people started calling themselves Christian there have been 500 million killers in history who identified themselves as Christian. Throw in another 300 million killers who consider themselves Muslim and you have 800 million people who are killers. So I would think that 800 million killers would have killed more people than two killers; Hitler and Stalin.
It does make sense.
Religious people say only atheists have no morals and therefore do things like Stalin & Hitler when the Truth is Religious people are just as guilty of these actions.


And to the OP; who cares what people say. If they think killing would be any less with more religion, than they're just as stupid as people that think killing would be any less with no religion. It all balances itself out. Even in ass backward parts of India where they have honor killings. More atheists die every year of high cholesterol related heart attacks than brothers killing their sisters for shaming the family in the eyes of Vishnu, and because they only eat organic food over there, none of them die of high cholesterol related heart attacks. I don't like Paul McCartney, but he was right about one thing; Live and let die.
Did you just say all atheists are fat?


Maybe if they believed in a God to help guide them they wouldn't be so fat.
Are you serious?
America is a pretty much a christian nation and it's easily the fattest country in the world.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: pootypooty on April 30, 2010, 03:51:15 AM
Christians, Muslims, Stalin, Hitler and every Joe, Fred, Buck and Jim have killed, and they've killed a lot of people throughout history in the name of theism, atheism, satanism, greed and baby mama/daddy drama.

Case in point, it's all relative. Just know that a shit load of people have been killed since the dawn of man.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Shallow on May 02, 2010, 08:56:37 PM

Wait a minute. I never read about any organized death camps during the crusades of innocent people being rounded up and killed for no reason. The crusades were a war between two religious factions, and the Muslims were killing Christians and taking over land just like the Christians were. Spain was taken over by Muslims. SPAIN! That'd be like people in concentration camps taking over Italy. It wasn't possible.

And what did the world do to oppose Hitler's evil idea of killing people? Nuke two Japanese islands and bomb the shit out of every country associated with Germany, then had over land to Stalin for helping them defeat Hitler. Give me a fucking break man.

You're just picking on religion because you don't like stuck up evangelicals with a superiority complex. That's how it comes across to me anyway.
I recommend you to revisit the old testament.
Jews wiped out entire cultures.

There weren't any organized death camps because they just killed everybody right away.
Spain wasn't taken over by Muslims, just a small part in the south.
That's like saying Cubans took over america because they took over in miami


You're using the Old Testament as an example? You're an atheist!!!!!! The Old Testament is a joke of a lie to you.

And as for the Crusades; I'm not saying that Europe wasn't the big dog in the fight, but Muslims were killing Christians right back. It was a war. The Nazis were performing a police action.




That makes no sense. You're comparing the number of people killed by anyone associating themselves as Christian or Muslim to that of two individual men. For arguments sake let's say that since Christ appeared and people started calling themselves Christian there have been 500 million killers in history who identified themselves as Christian. Throw in another 300 million killers who consider themselves Muslim and you have 800 million people who are killers. So I would think that 800 million killers would have killed more people than two killers; Hitler and Stalin.
It does make sense.
Religious people say only atheists have no morals and therefore do things like Stalin & Hitler when the Truth is Religious people are just as guilty of these actions.



And to the OP; who cares what people say. If they think killing would be any less with more religion, than they're just as stupid as people that think killing would be any less with no religion. It all balances itself out. Even in ass backward parts of India where they have honor killings. More atheists die every year of high cholesterol related heart attacks than brothers killing their sisters for shaming the family in the eyes of Vishnu, and because they only eat organic food over there, none of them die of high cholesterol related heart attacks. I don't like Paul McCartney, but he was right about one thing; Live and let die.
Did you just say all atheists are fat?


Maybe if they believed in a God to help guide them they wouldn't be so fat.
Are you serious?
America is a pretty much a christian nation and it's easily the fattest country in the world.

You're very bright you know that, And incredibly good at picking up sarcasm. I commend you.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Michael on May 17, 2010, 02:36:05 PM
Spain wasn't taken over by Muslims, just a small part in the south.
That's like saying Cubans took over america because they took over in miami

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xf5mT9SoYVk/SPOJS5pT_wI/AAAAAAAAAIU/KYSvOAj69c8/s320/Conquest+of+Spain.gif)

it was held for a cupla hundred years, then gradually fell bit, by bit until Grenada was captured by the Spanish monarchs in 1492.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: C-BLUE on May 17, 2010, 06:28:19 PM
Theres many reasons why people kill. Yeah many kill in the name of religion, but most of them don‘t kill for that reason alone. There‘s almost always something else and most of the time it‘s something personal and something very simple. Like for instance, revenge! But the thing is these people love to justify murder by doing it in the name of god or allah or whatever the fucc they believe in. To them god is the most sacred thing. To me the word god has no meaning and it's like you could almost replace that word with the word "right" because to them god represents that word. They believe god can‘t be wrong and by associating that with the deed they feel much better about the whole thing. As a devout atheist I find that shit ridiculous. It‘s almost laughable, but let‘s get this shit straight...religion don‘t kill anybody, just like porn can‘t make anyone do porn! Religion is here because people are stupid and if you‘re gonna take someone‘s life in the name of Allah then you‘re not only just stupid for believing in Allah, you‘re also retarded..YOU‘RE LIGHTS!!!

But let me add..without religion the world would most certainly be a better place, but religion isn't going anywhere when you got people who are willing to believe in things they can't see, hear, smell or measure and feel they don't need evidence to believe in them. They call it faith, but to me it's really a mental disorder. If I could, I'd pray for these people.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: ikke on May 21, 2010, 11:58:44 PM
Small edit seeing how people thought I thought that only religious people did bad things.

And Bump for Streiht up menance
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Raphael on May 22, 2010, 11:42:44 AM
Fuck this pro capitalism bullshit about Hitler and Stalin being more evil than the US,France and Great Britain at that time. As a matter of fact i can't eat dinner without a picture of these war heroes hanging on my kitchen wall no homo.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 22, 2010, 04:54:52 PM
Who gives a shit. Anyone who says that anyone else does NOT have morals...is a complete idiot. Everyone has morals. Just not always the same morals as you. Not to mention, morals change depending on your circumstances. Most sane people believe that killing is bad. But if someone threatened you or a loved one...you might feel completely justified in killing them to protect yourself or your loved one. Most people think stealing is wrong. But if you were starving...or your child was starving...and on the verge of death, with no other way to get food....you would steal it. Could be against your morals, but your instinct to survive outweighs your morals.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: C-BLUE on May 23, 2010, 06:12:24 PM
Who gives a shit. Anyone who says that anyone else does NOT have morals...is a complete idiot. Everyone has morals. Just not always the same morals as you. Not to mention, morals change depending on your circumstances. Most sane people believe that killing is bad. But if someone threatened you or a loved one...you might feel completely justified in killing them to protect yourself or your loved one. Most people think stealing is wrong. But if you were starving...or your child was starving...and on the verge of death, with no other way to get food....you would steal it. Could be against your morals, but your instinct to survive outweighs your morals.

I guess the question is...what are morals? It's different for each person and it's very to common to hear people say that somebody ain't got no morals. It's a subjective matter but if morals are something that have to do with our personal judgment of what is right and wrong then I guess everyone does have morals. Even if you think everything is right...killing, child molestation, cannibalism, whatever. It's your morals.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: StrEiht Up Menace on May 23, 2010, 11:57:46 PM
Small edit seeing how people thought I thought that only religious people did bad things.

And Bump for Streiht up menance
8)


Who gives a shit. Anyone who says that anyone else does NOT have morals...is a complete idiot. Everyone has morals. Just not always the same morals as you. Not to mention, morals change depending on your circumstances. Most sane people believe that killing is bad. But if someone threatened you or a loved one...you might feel completely justified in killing them to protect yourself or your loved one. Most people think stealing is wrong. But if you were starving...or your child was starving...and on the verge of death, with no other way to get food....you would steal it. Could be against your morals, but your instinct to survive outweighs your morals.

I guess the question is...what are morals? It's different for each person and it's very to common to hear people say that somebody ain't got no morals. It's a subjective matter but if morals are something that have to do with our personal judgment of what is right and wrong then I guess everyone does have morals. Even if you think everything is right...killing, child molestation, cannibalism, whatever. It's your morals.
Society make morals, retards go against them. I dont giv a shit if it was a so called religious person, if they find a reason to kill someone then they cant really be called religious.
Hitler wasnt a christian,  he was a fuckin nazi and that was made pretty clear.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: ikke on May 24, 2010, 02:28:14 AM
Hitler wasnt a christian,  he was a fuckin nazi and that was made pretty clear.

He created his own version of the bible, the same christian bible except all the parts about good jews was cut.
That's what the nazi's believed in, still christian...
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 24, 2010, 02:29:23 AM
Small edit seeing how people thought I thought that only religious people did bad things.

And Bump for Streiht up menance
8)


Who gives a shit. Anyone who says that anyone else does NOT have morals...is a complete idiot. Everyone has morals. Just not always the same morals as you. Not to mention, morals change depending on your circumstances. Most sane people believe that killing is bad. But if someone threatened you or a loved one...you might feel completely justified in killing them to protect yourself or your loved one. Most people think stealing is wrong. But if you were starving...or your child was starving...and on the verge of death, with no other way to get food....you would steal it. Could be against your morals, but your instinct to survive outweighs your morals.

I guess the question is...what are morals? It's different for each person and it's very to common to hear people say that somebody ain't got no morals. It's a subjective matter but if morals are something that have to do with our personal judgment of what is right and wrong then I guess everyone does have morals. Even if you think everything is right...killing, child molestation, cannibalism, whatever. It's your morals.
Society make morals, retards go against them. I dont giv a shit if it was a so called religious person, if they find a reason to kill someone then they cant really be called religious.
Hitler wasnt a christian,  he was a fuckin nazi and that was made pretty clear.


Its not that retards go against them. Sometimes people who want to make change go against them. C-Blue is right, everybody HAS morals. Just everybody dont have the SAME morals. At one point society believed it was perfectly acceptable to own...kill...and rape slaves. Society thought that. Someone had to question it in order for it to change. Those who questioned it...went against what society believed was perfectly moral.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 24, 2010, 02:31:31 AM
Hitler wasnt a christian,  he was a fuckin nazi and that was made pretty clear.

He created his own version of the bible, the same christian bible except all the parts about good jews was cut.
That's what the nazi's believed in, still christian...

Christians have a habit of pretending that Christians who do bad things...are not "real Christians".  The KKK pray to the same god as them.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: StrEiht Up Menace on May 24, 2010, 04:26:53 AM
Hitler wasnt a christian,  he was a fuckin nazi and that was made pretty clear.

He created his own version of the bible, the same christian bible except all the parts about good jews was cut.
That's what the nazi's believed in, still christian...

Christians have a habit of pretending that Christians who do bad things...are not "real Christians".  The KKK pray to the same god as them.
nazism is a religion on its own, so still not making him a christian.
KKK are a bunch of white fags who get the joy out of killing others who arent like them. That goes against all morals, especially the rules set down by Christianity so for one fuck them queers, two they are claiming a religion they dont abide by, three fuck them queers
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: ikke on May 24, 2010, 06:09:12 AM
Hitler wasnt a christian,  he was a fuckin nazi and that was made pretty clear.

He created his own version of the bible, the same christian bible except all the parts about good jews was cut.
That's what the nazi's believed in, still christian...

Christians have a habit of pretending that Christians who do bad things...are not "real Christians".  The KKK pray to the same god as them.
nazism is a religion on its own, so still not making him a christian.
KKK are a bunch of white fags who get the joy out of killing others who arent like them. That goes against all morals, especially the rules set down by Christianity so for one fuck them queers, two they are claiming a religion they dont abide by, three fuck them queers
.nazism is christianity with a few minor changes. The kkk are vey christian, after all thou shall not kill thy neighbour means dont kill other jews/christians
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: StrEiht Up Menace on May 24, 2010, 03:33:05 PM
Hitler wasnt a christian,  he was a fuckin nazi and that was made pretty clear.

He created his own version of the bible, the same christian bible except all the parts about good jews was cut.
That's what the nazi's believed in, still christian...

Christians have a habit of pretending that Christians who do bad things...are not "real Christians".  The KKK pray to the same god as them.
nazism is a religion on its own, so still not making him a christian.
KKK are a bunch of white fags who get the joy out of killing others who arent like them. That goes against all morals, especially the rules set down by Christianity so for one fuck them queers, two they are claiming a religion they dont abide by, three fuck them queers
The kkk are vey christian, after all thou shall not kill thy neighbour means dont kill other jews/christians
You must be mixed up with muslims or some shit, "Thou Shall Not Kill" is a commandment, not "kill thy neighbor"
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: ikke on May 25, 2010, 10:41:42 AM
You must be mixed up with muslims or some shit, "Thou Shall Not Kill" is a commandment, not "kill thy neighbor"
You're right but they did mean Do Not Kill other jews when it was written.

The muslim comment is just racist.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: StrEiht Up Menace on May 25, 2010, 03:16:47 PM
Muslims are still accepted into heaven if they kill a non Muslim, correct me if I read bullshit
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 26, 2010, 10:34:30 AM
Hitler wasnt a christian,  he was a fuckin nazi and that was made pretty clear.

He created his own version of the bible, the same christian bible except all the parts about good jews was cut.
That's what the nazi's believed in, still christian...

Christians have a habit of pretending that Christians who do bad things...are not "real Christians".  The KKK pray to the same god as them.
nazism is a religion on its own, so still not making him a christian.
KKK are a bunch of white fags who get the joy out of killing others who arent like them. That goes against all morals, especially the rules set down by Christianity so for one fuck them queers, two they are claiming a religion they dont abide by, three fuck them queers

Every Christian I have ever known in my life goes against SOME sort of Chritian morals. The fact remains, the KKK worships the exact same God as any Christian. Like it or not...there is a bond.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: ikke on May 26, 2010, 10:40:46 AM
Animals have no religion, but a primitive set of morals therefor religion is not needed for morals

/endthread
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Shallow on May 30, 2010, 09:49:23 AM
Hitler wasnt a christian,  he was a fuckin nazi and that was made pretty clear.

He created his own version of the bible, the same christian bible except all the parts about good jews was cut.
That's what the nazi's believed in, still christian...

Christians have a habit of pretending that Christians who do bad things...are not "real Christians".  The KKK pray to the same god as them.
nazism is a religion on its own, so still not making him a christian.
KKK are a bunch of white fags who get the joy out of killing others who arent like them. That goes against all morals, especially the rules set down by Christianity so for one fuck them queers, two they are claiming a religion they dont abide by, three fuck them queers

Every Christian I have ever known in my life goes against SOME sort of Chritian morals. The fact remains, the KKK worships the exact same God as any Christian. Like it or not...there is a bond.

No one is denying that Klan members were Christians, but to imply that they'd been any better if there was no religion doesn't fly with me. They'd still hate blacks and jews just the same. They weren't killing them in the name of Christ. They were killing them because of some false sense of self preservation.

This notion that the KKK hates jews because the jews killed Jesus is as stupid as anything else on this thread. The Klan believes in a Zionist power. They believe that jews are in control and are trying to dominate. That has nothing to do with Jesus being crucified and being upset about it. Anyone that thinks Jesus could not have come right off the cross and struck down all that opposed him is 100% not a Christian. The klan are evil racists who happen to be Christians, not in any way an extension of religion.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: ikke on May 30, 2010, 09:52:56 AM
Muslims are still accepted into heaven if they kill a non Muslim, correct me if I read bullshit
CHristians are accepted into heaven as long as they accept christ as their savour
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Jaydc on May 31, 2010, 04:15:06 AM
It’s way beyond ironic that a place called the Holy Land is the location of the fiercest most deeply felt hatred in the world - George Carlin

Religon sums up everything that is wrong with human beings.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 03, 2010, 10:25:59 AM
Hitler wasnt a christian,  he was a fuckin nazi and that was made pretty clear.

He created his own version of the bible, the same christian bible except all the parts about good jews was cut.
That's what the nazi's believed in, still christian...

Christians have a habit of pretending that Christians who do bad things...are not "real Christians".  The KKK pray to the same god as them.
nazism is a religion on its own, so still not making him a christian.
KKK are a bunch of white fags who get the joy out of killing others who arent like them. That goes against all morals, especially the rules set down by Christianity so for one fuck them queers, two they are claiming a religion they dont abide by, three fuck them queers

Every Christian I have ever known in my life goes against SOME sort of Chritian morals. The fact remains, the KKK worships the exact same God as any Christian. Like it or not...there is a bond.

No one is denying that Klan members were Christians, but to imply that they'd been any better if there was no religion doesn't fly with me. They'd still hate blacks and jews just the same. They weren't killing them in the name of Christ. They were killing them because of some false sense of self preservation.

Perhaps. Or perhaps they were allowing their belief in God to justify what they were doing within themselves.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: ikke on June 03, 2010, 10:34:02 AM
Hitler wasnt a christian,  he was a fuckin nazi and that was made pretty clear.

He created his own version of the bible, the same christian bible except all the parts about good jews was cut.
That's what the nazi's believed in, still christian...

Christians have a habit of pretending that Christians who do bad things...are not "real Christians".  The KKK pray to the same god as them.
nazism is a religion on its own, so still not making him a christian.
KKK are a bunch of white fags who get the joy out of killing others who arent like them. That goes against all morals, especially the rules set down by Christianity so for one fuck them queers, two they are claiming a religion they dont abide by, three fuck them queers

Every Christian I have ever known in my life goes against SOME sort of Chritian morals. The fact remains, the KKK worships the exact same God as any Christian. Like it or not...there is a bond.

No one is denying that Klan members were Christians, but to imply that they'd been any better if there was no religion doesn't fly with me. They'd still hate blacks and jews just the same. They weren't killing them in the name of Christ. They were killing them because of some false sense of self preservation.

Perhaps. Or perhaps they were allowing their belief in God to justify what they were doing within themselves.
shallow just goes in threads to disagree with people
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: frnd on June 06, 2010, 09:42:41 PM
Just look at the world, most people believe they world is billions or millions of years old, when the bible says it`s 6000 years old, most people believe in evolution, as opposed to creationism...ect, and all these ideas come from scientists who are atheists..so they do try to spread there beliefs, but in a more subtle and sly way and also I believe it hasn`t got to the point of street corners yet but it will given time in my opinion.

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Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: C-BLUE on June 06, 2010, 09:55:41 PM
Hitler wasnt a christian,  he was a fuckin nazi and that was made pretty clear.

He created his own version of the bible, the same christian bible except all the parts about good jews was cut.
That's what the nazi's believed in, still christian...

Christians have a habit of pretending that Christians who do bad things...are not "real Christians".  The KKK pray to the same god as them.
nazism is a religion on its own, so still not making him a christian.
KKK are a bunch of white fags who get the joy out of killing others who arent like them. That goes against all morals, especially the rules set down by Christianity so for one fuck them queers, two they are claiming a religion they dont abide by, three fuck them queers

Every Christian I have ever known in my life goes against SOME sort of Chritian morals. The fact remains, the KKK worships the exact same God as any Christian. Like it or not...there is a bond.

No one is denying that Klan members were Christians, but to imply that they'd been any better if there was no religion doesn't fly with me. They'd still hate blacks and jews just the same. They weren't killing them in the name of Christ. They were killing them because of some false sense of self preservation.

Perhaps. Or perhaps they were allowing their belief in God to justify what they were doing within themselves.

I think we all agree (all of us with a fully functioning brain) that we'd be better off without religion. But I still think even if religion didn't exist we'd still have all the killings...the wars..all them wars ain't got shit to do with religion. That ain't even the root. Most people go to war to ensure they way of living...they put god in there to give it some phony weight.

But the root..before we was humans, we was animals. It's DNA.

And guess what..we're still animals.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Shallow on June 06, 2010, 10:01:02 PM
Hitler wasnt a christian,  he was a fuckin nazi and that was made pretty clear.

He created his own version of the bible, the same christian bible except all the parts about good jews was cut.
That's what the nazi's believed in, still christian...

Christians have a habit of pretending that Christians who do bad things...are not "real Christians".  The KKK pray to the same god as them.
nazism is a religion on its own, so still not making him a christian.
KKK are a bunch of white fags who get the joy out of killing others who arent like them. That goes against all morals, especially the rules set down by Christianity so for one fuck them queers, two they are claiming a religion they dont abide by, three fuck them queers

Every Christian I have ever known in my life goes against SOME sort of Chritian morals. The fact remains, the KKK worships the exact same God as any Christian. Like it or not...there is a bond.

No one is denying that Klan members were Christians, but to imply that they'd been any better if there was no religion doesn't fly with me. They'd still hate blacks and jews just the same. They weren't killing them in the name of Christ. They were killing them because of some false sense of self preservation.

Perhaps. Or perhaps they were allowing their belief in God to justify what they were doing within themselves.

So now you're not only speaking out against organized religion, you're saying personal morality should be abolished. I guess once we have the technology to put chips in people's heads you'll have your way.

Stop looking for excuses. Some bad things just happen. Don't wonder why. Just accept it.

There is a difference between putting a re-peat violent offender in jail for life to protect the people and eliminating an ideology because you feel, based on only your personal opinion that it is the reason the bad thing happens.

You know the difference between my perhaps and your perhaps? My perhaps does not condemn. Yours' does.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Shallow on June 06, 2010, 10:04:00 PM
Hitler wasnt a christian,  he was a fuckin nazi and that was made pretty clear.

He created his own version of the bible, the same christian bible except all the parts about good jews was cut.
That's what the nazi's believed in, still christian...

Christians have a habit of pretending that Christians who do bad things...are not "real Christians".  The KKK pray to the same god as them.
nazism is a religion on its own, so still not making him a christian.
KKK are a bunch of white fags who get the joy out of killing others who arent like them. That goes against all morals, especially the rules set down by Christianity so for one fuck them queers, two they are claiming a religion they dont abide by, three fuck them queers

Every Christian I have ever known in my life goes against SOME sort of Chritian morals. The fact remains, the KKK worships the exact same God as any Christian. Like it or not...there is a bond.

No one is denying that Klan members were Christians, but to imply that they'd been any better if there was no religion doesn't fly with me. They'd still hate blacks and jews just the same. They weren't killing them in the name of Christ. They were killing them because of some false sense of self preservation.

Perhaps. Or perhaps they were allowing their belief in God to justify what they were doing within themselves.

I think we all agree (all of us with a fully functioning brain) that we'd be better off without religion. But I still think even if religion didn't exist we'd still have all the killings...the wars..all them wars ain't got shit to do with religion. That ain't even the root. Most people go to war to ensure they way of living...they put god in there to give it some phony weight.

But the root..before we was humans, we was animals. It's DNA.

And guess what..we're still animals.

My brain is fully functioning. I'll put my objective brain up against yours if you want to see whose is more functioning. A mental decathlon if you will; math, science, history, politics, critical thinking, riddles, whatever you want. Let's see what you got kid. You like pulling the intelligence card. Put up or shut up.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: C-BLUE on June 06, 2010, 10:33:47 PM
Hitler wasnt a christian,  he was a fuckin nazi and that was made pretty clear.

He created his own version of the bible, the same christian bible except all the parts about good jews was cut.
That's what the nazi's believed in, still christian...

Christians have a habit of pretending that Christians who do bad things...are not "real Christians".  The KKK pray to the same god as them.
nazism is a religion on its own, so still not making him a christian.
KKK are a bunch of white fags who get the joy out of killing others who arent like them. That goes against all morals, especially the rules set down by Christianity so for one fuck them queers, two they are claiming a religion they dont abide by, three fuck them queers

Every Christian I have ever known in my life goes against SOME sort of Chritian morals. The fact remains, the KKK worships the exact same God as any Christian. Like it or not...there is a bond.

No one is denying that Klan members were Christians, but to imply that they'd been any better if there was no religion doesn't fly with me. They'd still hate blacks and jews just the same. They weren't killing them in the name of Christ. They were killing them because of some false sense of self preservation.

Perhaps. Or perhaps they were allowing their belief in God to justify what they were doing within themselves.

I think we all agree (all of us with a fully functioning brain) that we'd be better off without religion. But I still think even if religion didn't exist we'd still have all the killings...the wars..all them wars ain't got shit to do with religion. That ain't even the root. Most people go to war to ensure they way of living...they put god in there to give it some phony weight.

But the root..before we was humans, we was animals. It's DNA.

And guess what..we're still animals.

My brain is fully functioning. I'll put my objective brain up against yours if you want to see whose is more functioning. A mental decathlon if you will; math, science, history, politics, critical thinking, riddles, whatever you want. Let's see what you got kid. You like pulling the intelligence card. Put up or shut up.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA...you talk about being objective and yet you believe in an almighty god. You have no need for evidence, no room for critical thinking AND science is another word to u...ALL YOU HAVE IS FAITH! period. That is why it's damn near impossible to debate this with you because there is no objectivity in your brain. Moron.


Hahaha objective brain...You gonna sticc to that lil homie? lol. Next time think before you reply to me.

HAHAH I LOVE THIS!!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: StrEiht Up Menace on June 06, 2010, 11:36:29 PM
Hitler wasnt a christian,  he was a fuckin nazi and that was made pretty clear.

He created his own version of the bible, the same christian bible except all the parts about good jews was cut.
That's what the nazi's believed in, still christian...

Christians have a habit of pretending that Christians who do bad things...are not "real Christians".  The KKK pray to the same god as them.
nazism is a religion on its own, so still not making him a christian.
KKK are a bunch of white fags who get the joy out of killing others who arent like them. That goes against all morals, especially the rules set down by Christianity so for one fuck them queers, two they are claiming a religion they dont abide by, three fuck them queers

Every Christian I have ever known in my life goes against SOME sort of Chritian morals. The fact remains, the KKK worships the exact same God as any Christian. Like it or not...there is a bond.

No one is denying that Klan members were Christians, but to imply that they'd been any better if there was no religion doesn't fly with me. They'd still hate blacks and jews just the same. They weren't killing them in the name of Christ. They were killing them because of some false sense of self preservation.

Perhaps. Or perhaps they were allowing their belief in God to justify what they were doing within themselves.

I think we all agree (all of us with a fully functioning brain) that we'd be better off without religion. But I still think even if religion didn't exist we'd still have all the killings...the wars..all them wars ain't got shit to do with religion. That ain't even the root. Most people go to war to ensure they way of living...they put god in there to give it some phony weight.

But the root..before we was humans, we was animals. It's DNA.

And guess what..we're still animals.

My brain is fully functioning. I'll put my objective brain up against yours if you want to see whose is more functioning. A mental decathlon if you will; math, science, history, politics, critical thinking, riddles, whatever you want. Let's see what you got kid. You like pulling the intelligence card. Put up or shut up.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA...you talk about being objective and yet you believe in an almighty god. You have no need for evidence, no room for critical thinking AND science is another word to u...ALL YOU HAVE IS FAITH! period. That is why it's damn near impossible to debate this with you because there is no objectivity in your brain. Moron.


Hahaha objective brain...You gonna sticc to that lil homie? lol. Next time think before you reply to me.

HAHAH I LOVE THIS!!! ;D ;D
haha u call him a moron for believing when you also believe everything a scientist says. Go read ur darwin books whitey
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Elano on June 06, 2010, 11:44:08 PM
Hitler wasnt a christian,  he was a fuckin nazi and that was made pretty clear.

He created his own version of the bible, the same christian bible except all the parts about good jews was cut.
That's what the nazi's believed in, still christian...

Christians have a habit of pretending that Christians who do bad things...are not "real Christians".  The KKK pray to the same god as them.
nazism is a religion on its own, so still not making him a christian.
KKK are a bunch of white fags who get the joy out of killing others who arent like them. That goes against all morals, especially the rules set down by Christianity so for one fuck them queers, two they are claiming a religion they dont abide by, three fuck them queers

Every Christian I have ever known in my life goes against SOME sort of Chritian morals. The fact remains, the KKK worships the exact same God as any Christian. Like it or not...there is a bond.

No one is denying that Klan members were Christians, but to imply that they'd been any better if there was no religion doesn't fly with me. They'd still hate blacks and jews just the same. They weren't killing them in the name of Christ. They were killing them because of some false sense of self preservation.

Perhaps. Or perhaps they were allowing their belief in God to justify what they were doing within themselves.

I think we all agree (all of us with a fully functioning brain) that we'd be better off without religion. But I still think even if religion didn't exist we'd still have all the killings...the wars..all them wars ain't got shit to do with religion. That ain't even the root. Most people go to war to ensure they way of living...they put god in there to give it some phony weight.

But the root..before we was humans, we was animals. It's DNA.

And guess what..we're still animals.

My brain is fully functioning. I'll put my objective brain up against yours if you want to see whose is more functioning. A mental decathlon if you will; math, science, history, politics, critical thinking, riddles, whatever you want. Let's see what you got kid. You like pulling the intelligence card. Put up or shut up.

lmao @ c-blue pulling the intelligence card  :D
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: C-BLUE on June 07, 2010, 01:19:14 AM
Hitler wasnt a christian,  he was a fuckin nazi and that was made pretty clear.

He created his own version of the bible, the same christian bible except all the parts about good jews was cut.
That's what the nazi's believed in, still christian...

Christians have a habit of pretending that Christians who do bad things...are not "real Christians".  The KKK pray to the same god as them.
nazism is a religion on its own, so still not making him a christian.
KKK are a bunch of white fags who get the joy out of killing others who arent like them. That goes against all morals, especially the rules set down by Christianity so for one fuck them queers, two they are claiming a religion they dont abide by, three fuck them queers

Every Christian I have ever known in my life goes against SOME sort of Chritian morals. The fact remains, the KKK worships the exact same God as any Christian. Like it or not...there is a bond.

No one is denying that Klan members were Christians, but to imply that they'd been any better if there was no religion doesn't fly with me. They'd still hate blacks and jews just the same. They weren't killing them in the name of Christ. They were killing them because of some false sense of self preservation.

Perhaps. Or perhaps they were allowing their belief in God to justify what they were doing within themselves.

I think we all agree (all of us with a fully functioning brain) that we'd be better off without religion. But I still think even if religion didn't exist we'd still have all the killings...the wars..all them wars ain't got shit to do with religion. That ain't even the root. Most people go to war to ensure they way of living...they put god in there to give it some phony weight.

But the root..before we was humans, we was animals. It's DNA.

And guess what..we're still animals.

My brain is fully functioning. I'll put my objective brain up against yours if you want to see whose is more functioning. A mental decathlon if you will; math, science, history, politics, critical thinking, riddles, whatever you want. Let's see what you got kid. You like pulling the intelligence card. Put up or shut up.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA...you talk about being objective and yet you believe in an almighty god. You have no need for evidence, no room for critical thinking AND science is another word to u...ALL YOU HAVE IS FAITH! period. That is why it's damn near impossible to debate this with you because there is no objectivity in your brain. Moron.


Hahaha objective brain...You gonna sticc to that lil homie? lol. Next time think before you reply to me.

HAHAH I LOVE THIS!!! ;D ;D
haha u call him a moron for believing when you also believe everything a scientist says. Go read ur darwin books whitey

who ever said I believed everything a scientist said? and you do realize there's a difference between science and religion?? you know what religion is based on right? another idiot with half a brain lol. go read some books nigger.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: StrEiht Up Menace on June 07, 2010, 01:51:47 AM
Hitler wasnt a christian,  he was a fuckin nazi and that was made pretty clear.

He created his own version of the bible, the same christian bible except all the parts about good jews was cut.
That's what the nazi's believed in, still christian...

Christians have a habit of pretending that Christians who do bad things...are not "real Christians".  The KKK pray to the same god as them.
nazism is a religion on its own, so still not making him a christian.
KKK are a bunch of white fags who get the joy out of killing others who arent like them. That goes against all morals, especially the rules set down by Christianity so for one fuck them queers, two they are claiming a religion they dont abide by, three fuck them queers

Every Christian I have ever known in my life goes against SOME sort of Chritian morals. The fact remains, the KKK worships the exact same God as any Christian. Like it or not...there is a bond.

No one is denying that Klan members were Christians, but to imply that they'd been any better if there was no religion doesn't fly with me. They'd still hate blacks and jews just the same. They weren't killing them in the name of Christ. They were killing them because of some false sense of self preservation.

Perhaps. Or perhaps they were allowing their belief in God to justify what they were doing within themselves.

I think we all agree (all of us with a fully functioning brain) that we'd be better off without religion. But I still think even if religion didn't exist we'd still have all the killings...the wars..all them wars ain't got shit to do with religion. That ain't even the root. Most people go to war to ensure they way of living...they put god in there to give it some phony weight.

But the root..before we was humans, we was animals. It's DNA.

And guess what..we're still animals.

My brain is fully functioning. I'll put my objective brain up against yours if you want to see whose is more functioning. A mental decathlon if you will; math, science, history, politics, critical thinking, riddles, whatever you want. Let's see what you got kid. You like pulling the intelligence card. Put up or shut up.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA...you talk about being objective and yet you believe in an almighty god. You have no need for evidence, no room for critical thinking AND science is another word to u...ALL YOU HAVE IS FAITH! period. That is why it's damn near impossible to debate this with you because there is no objectivity in your brain. Moron.


Hahaha objective brain...You gonna sticc to that lil homie? lol. Next time think before you reply to me.

HAHAH I LOVE THIS!!! ;D ;D
haha u call him a moron for believing when you also believe everything a scientist says. Go read ur darwin books whitey

who ever said I believed everything a scientist said? and you do realize there's a difference between science and religion?? you know what religion is based on right? another idiot with half a brain lol. go read some books nigger.
what books should I read honkey?
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: ikke on June 07, 2010, 05:17:08 AM
haha u call him a moron for believing when you also believe everything a scientist says. Go read ur darwin books whitey
The difference is Scientists have Proof, that they present.

When a scientists is proven wrong he says thank you, when a christfag is proven wrong he denies it.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: StrEiht Up Menace on June 07, 2010, 05:40:45 AM
haha u call him a moron for believing when you also believe everything a scientist says. Go read ur darwin books whitey
The difference is Scientists have Proof, that they present.

When a scientists is proven wrong he says thank you, when a christfag is proven wrong he denies it.

since u atheists a proof musts, prove to me what you just said. Show me when a scientist says thank you for being wrong
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: ikke on June 07, 2010, 06:03:44 AM
haha u call him a moron for believing when you also believe everything a scientist says. Go read ur darwin books whitey
The difference is Scientists have Proof, that they present.

When a scientists is proven wrong he says thank you, when a christfag is proven wrong he denies it.

since u atheists a proof musts, prove to me what you just said. Show me when a scientist says thank you for being wrong
I said scientists not atheists.
Scientists set out to disprove their theories, if they can't disprove it but another person did, they helped in the research.

Dawkins also has a passage about a teacher who had a theory for about 20 years, then some guestspeaker proved him wrong and the teacher thanked him because he now knew how it really was.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Shallow on June 07, 2010, 07:19:51 AM
Hitler wasnt a christian,  he was a fuckin nazi and that was made pretty clear.

He created his own version of the bible, the same christian bible except all the parts about good jews was cut.
That's what the nazi's believed in, still christian...

Christians have a habit of pretending that Christians who do bad things...are not "real Christians".  The KKK pray to the same god as them.
nazism is a religion on its own, so still not making him a christian.
KKK are a bunch of white fags who get the joy out of killing others who arent like them. That goes against all morals, especially the rules set down by Christianity so for one fuck them queers, two they are claiming a religion they dont abide by, three fuck them queers

Every Christian I have ever known in my life goes against SOME sort of Chritian morals. The fact remains, the KKK worships the exact same God as any Christian. Like it or not...there is a bond.

No one is denying that Klan members were Christians, but to imply that they'd been any better if there was no religion doesn't fly with me. They'd still hate blacks and jews just the same. They weren't killing them in the name of Christ. They were killing them because of some false sense of self preservation.

Perhaps. Or perhaps they were allowing their belief in God to justify what they were doing within themselves.

I think we all agree (all of us with a fully functioning brain) that we'd be better off without religion. But I still think even if religion didn't exist we'd still have all the killings...the wars..all them wars ain't got shit to do with religion. That ain't even the root. Most people go to war to ensure they way of living...they put god in there to give it some phony weight.

But the root..before we was humans, we was animals. It's DNA.

And guess what..we're still animals.

My brain is fully functioning. I'll put my objective brain up against yours if you want to see whose is more functioning. A mental decathlon if you will; math, science, history, politics, critical thinking, riddles, whatever you want. Let's see what you got kid. You like pulling the intelligence card. Put up or shut up.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA...you talk about being objective and yet you believe in an almighty god. You have no need for evidence, no room for critical thinking AND science is another word to u...ALL YOU HAVE IS FAITH! period. That is why it's damn near impossible to debate this with you because there is no objectivity in your brain. Moron.


Hahaha objective brain...You gonna sticc to that lil homie? lol. Next time think before you reply to me.

HAHAH I LOVE THIS!!! ;D ;D


I'm not talking about debating God or religion. Let's debate physics or calculus. I just want to show you that my brain can grasp concepts that your brain cannot. You have a hard enough time grasping the English language. Run from the challenge if you want.

I'm well aware that belief in God has nothing to do with being objective or having evidence. I'm also well aware that I'm smarter than you on all subjects that are objective and do require evidence. I can't prove God but you can prove me wrong about who is smarter with regards to everything else.

And if you beat me I'll gladly admit you did. You like just about every other clown on this forum that pretends to be enlightened will just ignore the debate even happened. People have beaten me in arguments before and have seen me take back what I said. Can you say the same thing?
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: ikke on June 07, 2010, 09:01:13 AM
I'm not talking about debating God or religion. Let's debate physics or calculus. I just want to show you that my brain can grasp concepts that your brain cannot. You have a hard enough time grasping the English language. Run from the challenge if you want.

I'm well aware that belief in God has nothing to do with being objective or having evidence. I'm also well aware that I'm smarter than you on all subjects that are objective and do require evidence. I can't prove God but you can prove me wrong about who is smarter with regards to everything else.

And if you beat me I'll gladly admit you did. You like just about every other clown on this forum that pretends to be enlightened will just ignore the debate even happened. People have beaten me in arguments before and have seen me take back what I said. Can you say the same thing?
You're both going to copy paste from other sites anyway, why bother
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Shallow on June 07, 2010, 10:14:44 AM
I'm not talking about debating God or religion. Let's debate physics or calculus. I just want to show you that my brain can grasp concepts that your brain cannot. You have a hard enough time grasping the English language. Run from the challenge if you want.

I'm well aware that belief in God has nothing to do with being objective or having evidence. I'm also well aware that I'm smarter than you on all subjects that are objective and do require evidence. I can't prove God but you can prove me wrong about who is smarter with regards to everything else.

And if you beat me I'll gladly admit you did. You like just about every other clown on this forum that pretends to be enlightened will just ignore the debate even happened. People have beaten me in arguments before and have seen me take back what I said. Can you say the same thing?
You're both going to copy paste from other sites anyway, why bother


Those are the words of a man that knows as much about calculus as he does of a world with out religion.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: ikke on June 07, 2010, 10:27:21 AM
I'm not talking about debating God or religion. Let's debate physics or calculus. I just want to show you that my brain can grasp concepts that your brain cannot. You have a hard enough time grasping the English language. Run from the challenge if you want.

I'm well aware that belief in God has nothing to do with being objective or having evidence. I'm also well aware that I'm smarter than you on all subjects that are objective and do require evidence. I can't prove God but you can prove me wrong about who is smarter with regards to everything else.

And if you beat me I'll gladly admit you did. You like just about every other clown on this forum that pretends to be enlightened will just ignore the debate even happened. People have beaten me in arguments before and have seen me take back what I said. Can you say the same thing?
You're both going to copy paste from other sites anyway, why bother


Those are the words of a man that knows as much about calculus as he does of a world with out religion.
You base this on what?
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Shallow on June 07, 2010, 12:27:31 PM
I'm not talking about debating God or religion. Let's debate physics or calculus. I just want to show you that my brain can grasp concepts that your brain cannot. You have a hard enough time grasping the English language. Run from the challenge if you want.

I'm well aware that belief in God has nothing to do with being objective or having evidence. I'm also well aware that I'm smarter than you on all subjects that are objective and do require evidence. I can't prove God but you can prove me wrong about who is smarter with regards to everything else.

And if you beat me I'll gladly admit you did. You like just about every other clown on this forum that pretends to be enlightened will just ignore the debate even happened. People have beaten me in arguments before and have seen me take back what I said. Can you say the same thing?
You're both going to copy paste from other sites anyway, why bother


Those are the words of a man that knows as much about calculus as he does of a world with out religion.
You base this on what?

On the fact that you think someone can just cut and paste information about math and no one can tell the guy is full of shit. If you can't explain the math you don't understand it. And someone that does understand it will know you don't understand it.

For example I'll use a math I think you are familiar with with; basic algebra and graphing and I want you to answer it for me. I'm making up the question and there's no cut and pasting you can do to solve it. You simply have to understand the math and solve. I'm not trying to stump you here. It's very easy and fully expect you to answer it with in seconds of reading it.

3x+7+2(3x)=5x-4(2x)-5

solve for x
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: ikke on June 07, 2010, 12:47:33 PM
I'm not talking about debating God or religion. Let's debate physics or calculus. I just want to show you that my brain can grasp concepts that your brain cannot. You have a hard enough time grasping the English language. Run from the challenge if you want.

I'm well aware that belief in God has nothing to do with being objective or having evidence. I'm also well aware that I'm smarter than you on all subjects that are objective and do require evidence. I can't prove God but you can prove me wrong about who is smarter with regards to everything else.

And if you beat me I'll gladly admit you did. You like just about every other clown on this forum that pretends to be enlightened will just ignore the debate even happened. People have beaten me in arguments before and have seen me take back what I said. Can you say the same thing?
You're both going to copy paste from other sites anyway, why bother


Those are the words of a man that knows as much about calculus as he does of a world with out religion.
You base this on what?

On the fact that you think someone can just cut and paste information about math and no one can tell the guy is full of shit. If you can't explain the math you don't understand it. And someone that does understand it will know you don't understand it.

For example I'll use a math I think you are familiar with with; basic algebra and graphing and I want you to answer it for me. I'm making up the question and there's no cut and pasting you can do to solve it. You simply have to understand the math and solve. I'm not trying to stump you here. It's very easy and fully expect you to answer it with in seconds of reading it.

3x+7+2(3x)=5x-4(2x)-5

solve for x
Don't underestimate bullshit skills:
I could easily downoad a graphical calculator where I can enter those formulas and I would be able to read the answer in a graph
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Shallow on June 07, 2010, 12:58:41 PM
I'm not talking about debating God or religion. Let's debate physics or calculus. I just want to show you that my brain can grasp concepts that your brain cannot. You have a hard enough time grasping the English language. Run from the challenge if you want.

I'm well aware that belief in God has nothing to do with being objective or having evidence. I'm also well aware that I'm smarter than you on all subjects that are objective and do require evidence. I can't prove God but you can prove me wrong about who is smarter with regards to everything else.

And if you beat me I'll gladly admit you did. You like just about every other clown on this forum that pretends to be enlightened will just ignore the debate even happened. People have beaten me in arguments before and have seen me take back what I said. Can you say the same thing?
You're both going to copy paste from other sites anyway, why bother


Those are the words of a man that knows as much about calculus as he does of a world with out religion.
You base this on what?

On the fact that you think someone can just cut and paste information about math and no one can tell the guy is full of shit. If you can't explain the math you don't understand it. And someone that does understand it will know you don't understand it.

For example I'll use a math I think you are familiar with with; basic algebra and graphing and I want you to answer it for me. I'm making up the question and there's no cut and pasting you can do to solve it. You simply have to understand the math and solve. I'm not trying to stump you here. It's very easy and fully expect you to answer it with in seconds of reading it.

3x+7+2(3x)=5x-4(2x)-5

solve for x
Don't underestimate bullshit skills:
I could easily downoad a graphical calculator where I can enter those formulas and I would be able to read the answer in a graph

But I'd ask you to explain it to me. Simply saying x= and the number won't cut it. It won't cut it on a grade 8 math and it won't cut it with me.

So I ask again

3x+7+2(3x)=5x-4(2x)-5

solve for x
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: ikke on June 07, 2010, 01:20:57 PM
I'm not talking about debating God or religion. Let's debate physics or calculus. I just want to show you that my brain can grasp concepts that your brain cannot. You have a hard enough time grasping the English language. Run from the challenge if you want.

I'm well aware that belief in God has nothing to do with being objective or having evidence. I'm also well aware that I'm smarter than you on all subjects that are objective and do require evidence. I can't prove God but you can prove me wrong about who is smarter with regards to everything else.

And if you beat me I'll gladly admit you did. You like just about every other clown on this forum that pretends to be enlightened will just ignore the debate even happened. People have beaten me in arguments before and have seen me take back what I said. Can you say the same thing?
You're both going to copy paste from other sites anyway, why bother


Those are the words of a man that knows as much about calculus as he does of a world with out religion.
You base this on what?

On the fact that you think someone can just cut and paste information about math and no one can tell the guy is full of shit. If you can't explain the math you don't understand it. And someone that does understand it will know you don't understand it.

For example I'll use a math I think you are familiar with with; basic algebra and graphing and I want you to answer it for me. I'm making up the question and there's no cut and pasting you can do to solve it. You simply have to understand the math and solve. I'm not trying to stump you here. It's very easy and fully expect you to answer it with in seconds of reading it.

3x+7+2(3x)=5x-4(2x)-5

solve for x
Don't underestimate bullshit skills:
I could easily downoad a graphical calculator where I can enter those formulas and I would be able to read the answer in a graph

But I'd ask you to explain it to me. Simply saying x= and the number won't cut it. It won't cut it on a grade 8 math and it won't cut it with me.

So I ask again

3x+7+2(3x)=5x-4(2x)-5
3x+7+6x = 5x-8x-5
9x+7= -3x-5
9x=-3x-12
12x=-12
x=-1



solve for x
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Shallow on June 07, 2010, 01:25:14 PM
I'm not talking about debating God or religion. Let's debate physics or calculus. I just want to show you that my brain can grasp concepts that your brain cannot. You have a hard enough time grasping the English language. Run from the challenge if you want.

I'm well aware that belief in God has nothing to do with being objective or having evidence. I'm also well aware that I'm smarter than you on all subjects that are objective and do require evidence. I can't prove God but you can prove me wrong about who is smarter with regards to everything else.

And if you beat me I'll gladly admit you did. You like just about every other clown on this forum that pretends to be enlightened will just ignore the debate even happened. People have beaten me in arguments before and have seen me take back what I said. Can you say the same thing?
You're both going to copy paste from other sites anyway, why bother


Those are the words of a man that knows as much about calculus as he does of a world with out religion.
You base this on what?

On the fact that you think someone can just cut and paste information about math and no one can tell the guy is full of shit. If you can't explain the math you don't understand it. And someone that does understand it will know you don't understand it.

For example I'll use a math I think you are familiar with with; basic algebra and graphing and I want you to answer it for me. I'm making up the question and there's no cut and pasting you can do to solve it. You simply have to understand the math and solve. I'm not trying to stump you here. It's very easy and fully expect you to answer it with in seconds of reading it.

3x+7+2(3x)=5x-4(2x)-5

solve for x
Don't underestimate bullshit skills:
I could easily downoad a graphical calculator where I can enter those formulas and I would be able to read the answer in a graph

But I'd ask you to explain it to me. Simply saying x= and the number won't cut it. It won't cut it on a grade 8 math and it won't cut it with me.

So I ask again

3x+7+2(3x)=5x-4(2x)-5
3x+7+6x = 5x-8x-5
9x+7= -3x-5
9x=-3x-12
12x=-12
x=-1



solve for x

Now to prove my point, can you explain to me what you did in English?
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: ikke on June 07, 2010, 01:34:19 PM
I'm not talking about debating God or religion. Let's debate physics or calculus. I just want to show you that my brain can grasp concepts that your brain cannot. You have a hard enough time grasping the English language. Run from the challenge if you want.

I'm well aware that belief in God has nothing to do with being objective or having evidence. I'm also well aware that I'm smarter than you on all subjects that are objective and do require evidence. I can't prove God but you can prove me wrong about who is smarter with regards to everything else.

And if you beat me I'll gladly admit you did. You like just about every other clown on this forum that pretends to be enlightened will just ignore the debate even happened. People have beaten me in arguments before and have seen me take back what I said. Can you say the same thing?
You're both going to copy paste from other sites anyway, why bother


Those are the words of a man that knows as much about calculus as he does of a world with out religion.
You base this on what?

On the fact that you think someone can just cut and paste information about math and no one can tell the guy is full of shit. If you can't explain the math you don't understand it. And someone that does understand it will know you don't understand it.

For example I'll use a math I think you are familiar with with; basic algebra and graphing and I want you to answer it for me. I'm making up the question and there's no cut and pasting you can do to solve it. You simply have to understand the math and solve. I'm not trying to stump you here. It's very easy and fully expect you to answer it with in seconds of reading it.

3x+7+2(3x)=5x-4(2x)-5

solve for x
Don't underestimate bullshit skills:
I could easily downoad a graphical calculator where I can enter those formulas and I would be able to read the answer in a graph

But I'd ask you to explain it to me. Simply saying x= and the number won't cut it. It won't cut it on a grade 8 math and it won't cut it with me.

So I ask again

3x+7+2(3x)=5x-4(2x)-5
3x+7+6x = 5x-8x-5
9x+7= -3x-5
9x=-3x-12
12x=-12
x=-1



solve for x

Now to prove my point, can you explain to me what you did in English?
That's the furthest I ever explained algebra like that.
But I guess you meant, I sort both sides out, doing the same on both sides to the point that I can see aX = a, a being a random number.

I was wrong, i thought cheating the answer and then comparing the answer to the question to see how to do it would be bullshitting but that's just teaching it to yourself.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Shallow on June 07, 2010, 01:58:28 PM
Here's what I mean by English; just explain in words what needs to be done. First we leave the 3x and the 7 alone and focus on the 2(3x). You multiply the 2 with the 3x to get the 6x, keeping in mind the sign in front of the 2, to get the line 3x+7+6x. Then with the other side you leave the 5x and the -5 alone and expand the 4(2x) to get a negative 8x because the sign in front of the 4 is negative. So we are now seeing 3x+7+6x=5x-8x-5. From here we have to get all the constants on one side and the coefficients on the other. It doesn't matter which side, but for customary purposes we'll move the constants to the left. To do this you must maintain the equality of the line. For example the line is the same when it reads 3x+7+6x+8x=5x-8x-5+8x. You keep this up until you get 3x+6x+7+8x-5x-7=5x-8x-5+8x-5x-7. Then you collect the like terms and you'll see terms get eliminated and you are left with 12x=-12. From here you must once again keep the equality of the line intact by dividing both sides by the same value in order to isolate the x. So 12x/12=-12/12 becomes x=-1. The logic being if 12 Xs equals negative 12 then what is the value of 1 X.

There's no way anyone that doesn't understand the math could write what I wrote.


Now going back to what started this; I want someone to deny that I have a fully functioning brain. Because I believe that at the very least the world would be no better or worse with or with out religion. I believe that for every crusade battle or suicide bomb done in the name of God there is also through out history a hospital built or some great deed done in the name of God. Just like the equation above cancels itself out on both sides so does the good and bad in the name of God. That's my theory and my belief. I cannot count everyone that's been killed in a religious war and compare them to everyone that's been saved in a religious hospital but neither can you.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: ikke on June 07, 2010, 02:10:55 PM
Here's what I mean by English; just explain in words what needs to be done. First we leave the 3x and the 7 alone and focus on the 2(3x). You multiply the 2 with the 3x to get the 6x, keeping in mind the sign in front of the 2, to get the line 3x+7+6x. Then with the other side you leave the 5x and the -5 alone and expand the 4(2x) to get a negative 8x because the sign in front of the 4 is negative. So we are now seeing 3x+7+6x=5x-8x-5. From here we have to get all the constants on one side and the coefficients on the other. It doesn't matter which side, but for customary purposes we'll move the constants to the left. To do this you must maintain the equality of the line. For example the line is the same when it reads 3x+7+6x+8x=5x-8x-5+8x. You keep this up until you get 3x+6x+7+8x-5x-7=5x-8x-5+8x-5x-7. Then you collect the like terms and you'll see terms get eliminated and you are left with 12x=-12. From here you must once again keep the equality of the line intact by dividing both sides by the same value in order to isolate the x. So 12x/12=-12/12 becomes x=-1. The logic being if 12 Xs equals negative 12 then what is the value of 1 X.

There's no way anyone that doesn't understand the math could write what I wrote.


Now going back to what started this; I want someone to deny that I have a fully functioning brain. Because I believe that at the very least the world would be no better or worse with or with out religion. I believe that for every crusade battle or suicide bomb done in the name of God there is also through out history a hospital built or some great deed done in the name of God. Just like the equation above cancels itself out on both sides so does the good and bad in the name of God. That's my theory and my belief. I cannot count everyone that's been killed in a religious war and compare them to everyone that's been saved in a religious hospital but neither can you.
I can't explain for shit, so I guess I will fail this.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: C-BLUE on June 07, 2010, 02:23:52 PM
Now going back to what started this; I want someone to deny that I have a fully functioning brain. Because I believe that at the very least the world would be no better or worse with or with out religion. I believe that for every crusade battle or suicide bomb done in the name of God there is also through out history a hospital built or some great deed done in the name of God. Just like the equation above cancels itself out on both sides so does the good and bad in the name of God. That's my theory and my belief. I cannot count everyone that's been killed in a religious war and compare them to everyone that's been saved in a religious hospital but neither can you.

why do you even care what we think? if I think you're an idiot does that really matter to you my nig?? The fact you know 1 or 2 things about algebra doesn't tell me much, but the fact you feel the NEED to prove to me that you are able to put two and two together tells me something about your self confidence. it really ain't my fault if you happen to be the owner of the world's smallest dicc.

you'll be allright my nigga. just pray a lot.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Muhfukka on June 07, 2010, 02:34:33 PM
it really ain't my fault if you happen to be the owner of the world's smallest dicc.

you'll be allright my nigga. just pray a lot.
hahahaha
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Shallow on June 07, 2010, 05:02:26 PM
Now going back to what started this; I want someone to deny that I have a fully functioning brain. Because I believe that at the very least the world would be no better or worse with or with out religion. I believe that for every crusade battle or suicide bomb done in the name of God there is also through out history a hospital built or some great deed done in the name of God. Just like the equation above cancels itself out on both sides so does the good and bad in the name of God. That's my theory and my belief. I cannot count everyone that's been killed in a religious war and compare them to everyone that's been saved in a religious hospital but neither can you.

why do you even care what we think? if I think you're an idiot does that really matter to you my nig?? The fact you know 1 or 2 things about algebra doesn't tell me much, but the fact you feel the NEED to prove to me that you are able to put two and two together tells me something about your self confidence. it really ain't my fault if you happen to be the owner of the world's smallest dicc.

you'll be allright my nigga. just pray a lot.


Does it matter to me that you think I'm an idiot? Not at all. In fact I'm trying to do you a favor by teaching you to open your mind a bit. Plenty of very intelligent people believe in God or the possibility of God and do not credit the bad things in society to religion. You made an incorrect statement. I corrected it. You can think what you want of me and I won't lose any sleep over it. You may as well have said; "I think we all agree (all of us with a fully functioning brain) that Larry Bird was a terrible 3-point shooter". I'd disagree and you could call me an idiot. No sweat off my back. Live in your fantasy world with no religion and be better off like the North Koreans are. I'm sure Mr Kim won't mind a few immigrants.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: StrEiht Up Menace on June 08, 2010, 12:14:33 AM
haha u call him a moron for believing when you also believe everything a scientist says. Go read ur darwin books whitey
The difference is Scientists have Proof, that they present.

When a scientists is proven wrong he says thank you, when a christfag is proven wrong he denies it.

since u atheists a proof musts, prove to me what you just said. Show me when a scientist says thank you for being wrong
I said scientists not atheists.
Scientists set out to disprove their theories, if they can't disprove it but another person did, they helped in the research.

Dawkins also has a passage about a teacher who had a theory for about 20 years, then some guestspeaker proved him wrong and the teacher thanked him because he now knew how it really was.
still doesnt prove nuthn wheres the source?
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 10, 2010, 11:08:18 AM
Here's what I mean by English; just explain in words what needs to be done. First we leave the 3x and the 7 alone and focus on the 2(3x). You multiply the 2 with the 3x to get the 6x, keeping in mind the sign in front of the 2, to get the line 3x+7+6x. Then with the other side you leave the 5x and the -5 alone and expand the 4(2x) to get a negative 8x because the sign in front of the 4 is negative. So we are now seeing 3x+7+6x=5x-8x-5. From here we have to get all the constants on one side and the coefficients on the other. It doesn't matter which side, but for customary purposes we'll move the constants to the left. To do this you must maintain the equality of the line. For example the line is the same when it reads 3x+7+6x+8x=5x-8x-5+8x. You keep this up until you get 3x+6x+7+8x-5x-7=5x-8x-5+8x-5x-7. Then you collect the like terms and you'll see terms get eliminated and you are left with 12x=-12. From here you must once again keep the equality of the line intact by dividing both sides by the same value in order to isolate the x. So 12x/12=-12/12 becomes x=-1. The logic being if 12 Xs equals negative 12 then what is the value of 1 X.

There's no way anyone that doesn't understand the math could write what I wrote.


Now going back to what started this; I want someone to deny that I have a fully functioning brain. Because I believe that at the very least the world would be no better or worse with or with out religion. I believe that for every crusade battle or suicide bomb done in the name of God there is also through out history a hospital built or some great deed done in the name of God. Just like the equation above cancels itself out on both sides so does the good and bad in the name of God. That's my theory and my belief. I cannot count everyone that's been killed in a religious war and compare them to everyone that's been saved in a religious hospital but neither can you.

Some honesty for you man. You feeling the need to constantly argue no matter WHAT the point being made is, makes you look like a fool. You trying to prove your knowledge of different subjects on a message board, makes you appear to have somewhat of a complex. Nobody on here gives a shit about anyone elses math skills. I took pre-calculus/trig Junior year...and calculus senior year. Out here there was a county wide test that needed to be taken in order to qualify for Calculus in highschool. A difficult test where out of 40 questions, the average score was just under 18 correct. I scored 22 or something. And guess what...in the real world nobody gives a fuck. Including here.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Shallow on June 10, 2010, 12:18:25 PM
Here's what I mean by English; just explain in words what needs to be done. First we leave the 3x and the 7 alone and focus on the 2(3x). You multiply the 2 with the 3x to get the 6x, keeping in mind the sign in front of the 2, to get the line 3x+7+6x. Then with the other side you leave the 5x and the -5 alone and expand the 4(2x) to get a negative 8x because the sign in front of the 4 is negative. So we are now seeing 3x+7+6x=5x-8x-5. From here we have to get all the constants on one side and the coefficients on the other. It doesn't matter which side, but for customary purposes we'll move the constants to the left. To do this you must maintain the equality of the line. For example the line is the same when it reads 3x+7+6x+8x=5x-8x-5+8x. You keep this up until you get 3x+6x+7+8x-5x-7=5x-8x-5+8x-5x-7. Then you collect the like terms and you'll see terms get eliminated and you are left with 12x=-12. From here you must once again keep the equality of the line intact by dividing both sides by the same value in order to isolate the x. So 12x/12=-12/12 becomes x=-1. The logic being if 12 Xs equals negative 12 then what is the value of 1 X.

There's no way anyone that doesn't understand the math could write what I wrote.


Now going back to what started this; I want someone to deny that I have a fully functioning brain. Because I believe that at the very least the world would be no better or worse with or with out religion. I believe that for every crusade battle or suicide bomb done in the name of God there is also through out history a hospital built or some great deed done in the name of God. Just like the equation above cancels itself out on both sides so does the good and bad in the name of God. That's my theory and my belief. I cannot count everyone that's been killed in a religious war and compare them to everyone that's been saved in a religious hospital but neither can you.

Some honesty for you man. You feeling the need to constantly argue no matter WHAT the point being made is, makes you look like a fool. You trying to prove your knowledge of different subjects on a message board, makes you appear to have somewhat of a complex. Nobody on here gives a shit about anyone elses math skills. I took pre-calculus/trig Junior year...and calculus senior year. Out here there was a county wide test that needed to be taken in order to qualify for Calculus in highschool. A difficult test where out of 40 questions, the average score was just under 18 correct. I scored 22 or something. And guess what...in the real world nobody gives a fuck. Including here.

First of all, C-Blue said no one with a fully functioning brain disagrees with the notion that the world would be better off with out religion. I wasn't arguing with you or calling anyone stupid. He was and I took issue with that. I do not now or ever argue for or against things unless I believe in the side I'm arguing.

The math example I used isn't even hard math. it's junior high stuff and it was used as a metaphor to show what I felt about religion's impact on the world. I'm not trying to prove how smart I am. I'm just trying to shut up a fucking idiot who made a blanket statement. I didn't get on any atheists case or push the gospel on them so when they call me an idiot just because I believe in God I strike back.

And before you knock hard math, most of which I know nothing about, remember that with out it we wouldn't be on this forum debating in the first place, because no math geniuses means no computers or computer programmers to create the internet.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: ikke on June 10, 2010, 12:32:21 PM
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Shallow
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 10, 2010, 12:37:42 PM
Here's what I mean by English; just explain in words what needs to be done. First we leave the 3x and the 7 alone and focus on the 2(3x). You multiply the 2 with the 3x to get the 6x, keeping in mind the sign in front of the 2, to get the line 3x+7+6x. Then with the other side you leave the 5x and the -5 alone and expand the 4(2x) to get a negative 8x because the sign in front of the 4 is negative. So we are now seeing 3x+7+6x=5x-8x-5. From here we have to get all the constants on one side and the coefficients on the other. It doesn't matter which side, but for customary purposes we'll move the constants to the left. To do this you must maintain the equality of the line. For example the line is the same when it reads 3x+7+6x+8x=5x-8x-5+8x. You keep this up until you get 3x+6x+7+8x-5x-7=5x-8x-5+8x-5x-7. Then you collect the like terms and you'll see terms get eliminated and you are left with 12x=-12. From here you must once again keep the equality of the line intact by dividing both sides by the same value in order to isolate the x. So 12x/12=-12/12 becomes x=-1. The logic being if 12 Xs equals negative 12 then what is the value of 1 X.

There's no way anyone that doesn't understand the math could write what I wrote.


Now going back to what started this; I want someone to deny that I have a fully functioning brain. Because I believe that at the very least the world would be no better or worse with or with out religion. I believe that for every crusade battle or suicide bomb done in the name of God there is also through out history a hospital built or some great deed done in the name of God. Just like the equation above cancels itself out on both sides so does the good and bad in the name of God. That's my theory and my belief. I cannot count everyone that's been killed in a religious war and compare them to everyone that's been saved in a religious hospital but neither can you.

Some honesty for you man. You feeling the need to constantly argue no matter WHAT the point being made is, makes you look like a fool. You trying to prove your knowledge of different subjects on a message board, makes you appear to have somewhat of a complex. Nobody on here gives a shit about anyone elses math skills. I took pre-calculus/trig Junior year...and calculus senior year. Out here there was a county wide test that needed to be taken in order to qualify for Calculus in highschool. A difficult test where out of 40 questions, the average score was just under 18 correct. I scored 22 or something. And guess what...in the real world nobody gives a fuck. Including here.

First of all, C-Blue said no one with a fully functioning brain disagrees with the notion that the world would be better off with out religion. I wasn't arguing with you or calling anyone stupid. He was and I took issue with that. I do not now or ever argue for or against things unless I believe in the side I'm arguing.

The math example I used isn't even hard math. it's junior high stuff and it was used as a metaphor to show what I felt about religion's impact on the world. I'm not trying to prove how smart I am. I'm just trying to shut up a fucking idiot who made a blanket statement. I didn't get on any atheists case or push the gospel on them so when they call me an idiot just because I believe in God I strike back.

And before you knock hard math, most of which I know nothing about, remember that with out it we wouldn't be on this forum debating in the first place, because no math geniuses means no computers or computer programmers to create the internet.

It just seems like you read his first sentence and decided to argue. Not noticing that his post was actually agreeing with the point that YOU made in your argument against me.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Shallow on June 10, 2010, 01:06:16 PM
Here's what I mean by English; just explain in words what needs to be done. First we leave the 3x and the 7 alone and focus on the 2(3x). You multiply the 2 with the 3x to get the 6x, keeping in mind the sign in front of the 2, to get the line 3x+7+6x. Then with the other side you leave the 5x and the -5 alone and expand the 4(2x) to get a negative 8x because the sign in front of the 4 is negative. So we are now seeing 3x+7+6x=5x-8x-5. From here we have to get all the constants on one side and the coefficients on the other. It doesn't matter which side, but for customary purposes we'll move the constants to the left. To do this you must maintain the equality of the line. For example the line is the same when it reads 3x+7+6x+8x=5x-8x-5+8x. You keep this up until you get 3x+6x+7+8x-5x-7=5x-8x-5+8x-5x-7. Then you collect the like terms and you'll see terms get eliminated and you are left with 12x=-12. From here you must once again keep the equality of the line intact by dividing both sides by the same value in order to isolate the x. So 12x/12=-12/12 becomes x=-1. The logic being if 12 Xs equals negative 12 then what is the value of 1 X.

There's no way anyone that doesn't understand the math could write what I wrote.


Now going back to what started this; I want someone to deny that I have a fully functioning brain. Because I believe that at the very least the world would be no better or worse with or with out religion. I believe that for every crusade battle or suicide bomb done in the name of God there is also through out history a hospital built or some great deed done in the name of God. Just like the equation above cancels itself out on both sides so does the good and bad in the name of God. That's my theory and my belief. I cannot count everyone that's been killed in a religious war and compare them to everyone that's been saved in a religious hospital but neither can you.

Some honesty for you man. You feeling the need to constantly argue no matter WHAT the point being made is, makes you look like a fool. You trying to prove your knowledge of different subjects on a message board, makes you appear to have somewhat of a complex. Nobody on here gives a shit about anyone elses math skills. I took pre-calculus/trig Junior year...and calculus senior year. Out here there was a county wide test that needed to be taken in order to qualify for Calculus in highschool. A difficult test where out of 40 questions, the average score was just under 18 correct. I scored 22 or something. And guess what...in the real world nobody gives a fuck. Including here.

First of all, C-Blue said no one with a fully functioning brain disagrees with the notion that the world would be better off with out religion. I wasn't arguing with you or calling anyone stupid. He was and I took issue with that. I do not now or ever argue for or against things unless I believe in the side I'm arguing.

The math example I used isn't even hard math. it's junior high stuff and it was used as a metaphor to show what I felt about religion's impact on the world. I'm not trying to prove how smart I am. I'm just trying to shut up a fucking idiot who made a blanket statement. I didn't get on any atheists case or push the gospel on them so when they call me an idiot just because I believe in God I strike back.

And before you knock hard math, most of which I know nothing about, remember that with out it we wouldn't be on this forum debating in the first place, because no math geniuses means no computers or computer programmers to create the internet.

It just seems like you read his first sentence and decided to argue. Not noticing that his post was actually agreeing with the point that YOU made in your argument against me.

I know full well what he was saying in his post. I read the whole thing, but he took a shot at me when he said what he said about religion so I took one back. He wants to call me stupid, then he can show me how smart he is.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 10, 2010, 01:30:40 PM
Here's what I mean by English; just explain in words what needs to be done. First we leave the 3x and the 7 alone and focus on the 2(3x). You multiply the 2 with the 3x to get the 6x, keeping in mind the sign in front of the 2, to get the line 3x+7+6x. Then with the other side you leave the 5x and the -5 alone and expand the 4(2x) to get a negative 8x because the sign in front of the 4 is negative. So we are now seeing 3x+7+6x=5x-8x-5. From here we have to get all the constants on one side and the coefficients on the other. It doesn't matter which side, but for customary purposes we'll move the constants to the left. To do this you must maintain the equality of the line. For example the line is the same when it reads 3x+7+6x+8x=5x-8x-5+8x. You keep this up until you get 3x+6x+7+8x-5x-7=5x-8x-5+8x-5x-7. Then you collect the like terms and you'll see terms get eliminated and you are left with 12x=-12. From here you must once again keep the equality of the line intact by dividing both sides by the same value in order to isolate the x. So 12x/12=-12/12 becomes x=-1. The logic being if 12 Xs equals negative 12 then what is the value of 1 X.

There's no way anyone that doesn't understand the math could write what I wrote.


Now going back to what started this; I want someone to deny that I have a fully functioning brain. Because I believe that at the very least the world would be no better or worse with or with out religion. I believe that for every crusade battle or suicide bomb done in the name of God there is also through out history a hospital built or some great deed done in the name of God. Just like the equation above cancels itself out on both sides so does the good and bad in the name of God. That's my theory and my belief. I cannot count everyone that's been killed in a religious war and compare them to everyone that's been saved in a religious hospital but neither can you.

Some honesty for you man. You feeling the need to constantly argue no matter WHAT the point being made is, makes you look like a fool. You trying to prove your knowledge of different subjects on a message board, makes you appear to have somewhat of a complex. Nobody on here gives a shit about anyone elses math skills. I took pre-calculus/trig Junior year...and calculus senior year. Out here there was a county wide test that needed to be taken in order to qualify for Calculus in highschool. A difficult test where out of 40 questions, the average score was just under 18 correct. I scored 22 or something. And guess what...in the real world nobody gives a fuck. Including here.

First of all, C-Blue said no one with a fully functioning brain disagrees with the notion that the world would be better off with out religion. I wasn't arguing with you or calling anyone stupid. He was and I took issue with that. I do not now or ever argue for or against things unless I believe in the side I'm arguing.

The math example I used isn't even hard math. it's junior high stuff and it was used as a metaphor to show what I felt about religion's impact on the world. I'm not trying to prove how smart I am. I'm just trying to shut up a fucking idiot who made a blanket statement. I didn't get on any atheists case or push the gospel on them so when they call me an idiot just because I believe in God I strike back.

And before you knock hard math, most of which I know nothing about, remember that with out it we wouldn't be on this forum debating in the first place, because no math geniuses means no computers or computer programmers to create the internet.

It just seems like you read his first sentence and decided to argue. Not noticing that his post was actually agreeing with the point that YOU made in your argument against me.

I know full well what he was saying in his post. I read the whole thing, but he took a shot at me when he said what he said about religion so I took one back. He wants to call me stupid, then he can show me how smart he is.

Not always easy to judge smart and stupid. Lets just say...ive known alotta smart stupid people...and a lot of supid smart people. If that makes sense.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Shallow on June 10, 2010, 01:34:33 PM
Here's what I mean by English; just explain in words what needs to be done. First we leave the 3x and the 7 alone and focus on the 2(3x). You multiply the 2 with the 3x to get the 6x, keeping in mind the sign in front of the 2, to get the line 3x+7+6x. Then with the other side you leave the 5x and the -5 alone and expand the 4(2x) to get a negative 8x because the sign in front of the 4 is negative. So we are now seeing 3x+7+6x=5x-8x-5. From here we have to get all the constants on one side and the coefficients on the other. It doesn't matter which side, but for customary purposes we'll move the constants to the left. To do this you must maintain the equality of the line. For example the line is the same when it reads 3x+7+6x+8x=5x-8x-5+8x. You keep this up until you get 3x+6x+7+8x-5x-7=5x-8x-5+8x-5x-7. Then you collect the like terms and you'll see terms get eliminated and you are left with 12x=-12. From here you must once again keep the equality of the line intact by dividing both sides by the same value in order to isolate the x. So 12x/12=-12/12 becomes x=-1. The logic being if 12 Xs equals negative 12 then what is the value of 1 X.

There's no way anyone that doesn't understand the math could write what I wrote.


Now going back to what started this; I want someone to deny that I have a fully functioning brain. Because I believe that at the very least the world would be no better or worse with or with out religion. I believe that for every crusade battle or suicide bomb done in the name of God there is also through out history a hospital built or some great deed done in the name of God. Just like the equation above cancels itself out on both sides so does the good and bad in the name of God. That's my theory and my belief. I cannot count everyone that's been killed in a religious war and compare them to everyone that's been saved in a religious hospital but neither can you.

Some honesty for you man. You feeling the need to constantly argue no matter WHAT the point being made is, makes you look like a fool. You trying to prove your knowledge of different subjects on a message board, makes you appear to have somewhat of a complex. Nobody on here gives a shit about anyone elses math skills. I took pre-calculus/trig Junior year...and calculus senior year. Out here there was a county wide test that needed to be taken in order to qualify for Calculus in highschool. A difficult test where out of 40 questions, the average score was just under 18 correct. I scored 22 or something. And guess what...in the real world nobody gives a fuck. Including here.

First of all, C-Blue said no one with a fully functioning brain disagrees with the notion that the world would be better off with out religion. I wasn't arguing with you or calling anyone stupid. He was and I took issue with that. I do not now or ever argue for or against things unless I believe in the side I'm arguing.

The math example I used isn't even hard math. it's junior high stuff and it was used as a metaphor to show what I felt about religion's impact on the world. I'm not trying to prove how smart I am. I'm just trying to shut up a fucking idiot who made a blanket statement. I didn't get on any atheists case or push the gospel on them so when they call me an idiot just because I believe in God I strike back.

And before you knock hard math, most of which I know nothing about, remember that with out it we wouldn't be on this forum debating in the first place, because no math geniuses means no computers or computer programmers to create the internet.

It just seems like you read his first sentence and decided to argue. Not noticing that his post was actually agreeing with the point that YOU made in your argument against me.

I know full well what he was saying in his post. I read the whole thing, but he took a shot at me when he said what he said about religion so I took one back. He wants to call me stupid, then he can show me how smart he is.

Not always easy to judge smart and stupid. Lets just say...ive known alotta smart stupid people...and a lot of supid smart people. If that makes sense.

So tell him that. I wasn't the one going around questioning people's brains.

And of course I full well know the difference between intelligence and wisdom. I had philosophy as well as science and math in my list of areas me and C-Blue could debate.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 10, 2010, 02:00:08 PM
Here's what I mean by English; just explain in words what needs to be done. First we leave the 3x and the 7 alone and focus on the 2(3x). You multiply the 2 with the 3x to get the 6x, keeping in mind the sign in front of the 2, to get the line 3x+7+6x. Then with the other side you leave the 5x and the -5 alone and expand the 4(2x) to get a negative 8x because the sign in front of the 4 is negative. So we are now seeing 3x+7+6x=5x-8x-5. From here we have to get all the constants on one side and the coefficients on the other. It doesn't matter which side, but for customary purposes we'll move the constants to the left. To do this you must maintain the equality of the line. For example the line is the same when it reads 3x+7+6x+8x=5x-8x-5+8x. You keep this up until you get 3x+6x+7+8x-5x-7=5x-8x-5+8x-5x-7. Then you collect the like terms and you'll see terms get eliminated and you are left with 12x=-12. From here you must once again keep the equality of the line intact by dividing both sides by the same value in order to isolate the x. So 12x/12=-12/12 becomes x=-1. The logic being if 12 Xs equals negative 12 then what is the value of 1 X.

There's no way anyone that doesn't understand the math could write what I wrote.


Now going back to what started this; I want someone to deny that I have a fully functioning brain. Because I believe that at the very least the world would be no better or worse with or with out religion. I believe that for every crusade battle or suicide bomb done in the name of God there is also through out history a hospital built or some great deed done in the name of God. Just like the equation above cancels itself out on both sides so does the good and bad in the name of God. That's my theory and my belief. I cannot count everyone that's been killed in a religious war and compare them to everyone that's been saved in a religious hospital but neither can you.

Some honesty for you man. You feeling the need to constantly argue no matter WHAT the point being made is, makes you look like a fool. You trying to prove your knowledge of different subjects on a message board, makes you appear to have somewhat of a complex. Nobody on here gives a shit about anyone elses math skills. I took pre-calculus/trig Junior year...and calculus senior year. Out here there was a county wide test that needed to be taken in order to qualify for Calculus in highschool. A difficult test where out of 40 questions, the average score was just under 18 correct. I scored 22 or something. And guess what...in the real world nobody gives a fuck. Including here.

First of all, C-Blue said no one with a fully functioning brain disagrees with the notion that the world would be better off with out religion. I wasn't arguing with you or calling anyone stupid. He was and I took issue with that. I do not now or ever argue for or against things unless I believe in the side I'm arguing.

The math example I used isn't even hard math. it's junior high stuff and it was used as a metaphor to show what I felt about religion's impact on the world. I'm not trying to prove how smart I am. I'm just trying to shut up a fucking idiot who made a blanket statement. I didn't get on any atheists case or push the gospel on them so when they call me an idiot just because I believe in God I strike back.

And before you knock hard math, most of which I know nothing about, remember that with out it we wouldn't be on this forum debating in the first place, because no math geniuses means no computers or computer programmers to create the internet.

It just seems like you read his first sentence and decided to argue. Not noticing that his post was actually agreeing with the point that YOU made in your argument against me.

I know full well what he was saying in his post. I read the whole thing, but he took a shot at me when he said what he said about religion so I took one back. He wants to call me stupid, then he can show me how smart he is.

Not always easy to judge smart and stupid. Lets just say...ive known alotta smart stupid people...and a lot of supid smart people. If that makes sense.

So tell him that. I wasn't the one going around questioning people's brains.

And of course I full well know the difference between intelligence and wisdom. I had philosophy as well as science and math in my list of areas me and C-Blue could debate.

lol man...would your head explode if you let someone else get the last word?
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: C-BLUE on June 10, 2010, 02:28:13 PM
I was gonna reply to all this bullshit but then I realized I don't need to..Daygo's been doing a wonderful job.

And I'm seriously considering making Daygo my spokesperson. Thats my nigga.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: StrEiht Up Menace on June 10, 2010, 06:08:48 PM
Here's what I mean by English; just explain in words what needs to be done. First we leave the 3x and the 7 alone and focus on the 2(3x). You multiply the 2 with the 3x to get the 6x, keeping in mind the sign in front of the 2, to get the line 3x+7+6x. Then with the other side you leave the 5x and the -5 alone and expand the 4(2x) to get a negative 8x because the sign in front of the 4 is negative. So we are now seeing 3x+7+6x=5x-8x-5. From here we have to get all the constants on one side and the coefficients on the other. It doesn't matter which side, but for customary purposes we'll move the constants to the left. To do this you must maintain the equality of the line. For example the line is the same when it reads 3x+7+6x+8x=5x-8x-5+8x. You keep this up until you get 3x+6x+7+8x-5x-7=5x-8x-5+8x-5x-7. Then you collect the like terms and you'll see terms get eliminated and you are left with 12x=-12. From here you must once again keep the equality of the line intact by dividing both sides by the same value in order to isolate the x. So 12x/12=-12/12 becomes x=-1. The logic being if 12 Xs equals negative 12 then what is the value of 1 X.

There's no way anyone that doesn't understand the math could write what I wrote.


Now going back to what started this; I want someone to deny that I have a fully functioning brain. Because I believe that at the very least the world would be no better or worse with or with out religion. I believe that for every crusade battle or suicide bomb done in the name of God there is also through out history a hospital built or some great deed done in the name of God. Just like the equation above cancels itself out on both sides so does the good and bad in the name of God. That's my theory and my belief. I cannot count everyone that's been killed in a religious war and compare them to everyone that's been saved in a religious hospital but neither can you.

Some honesty for you man. You feeling the need to constantly argue no matter WHAT the point being made is, makes you look like a fool. You trying to prove your knowledge of different subjects on a message board, makes you appear to have somewhat of a complex. Nobody on here gives a shit about anyone elses math skills. I took pre-calculus/trig Junior year...and calculus senior year. Out here there was a county wide test that needed to be taken in order to qualify for Calculus in highschool. A difficult test where out of 40 questions, the average score was just under 18 correct. I scored 22 or something. And guess what...in the real world nobody gives a fuck. Including here.

First of all, C-Blue said no one with a fully functioning brain disagrees with the notion that the world would be better off with out religion. I wasn't arguing with you or calling anyone stupid. He was and I took issue with that. I do not now or ever argue for or against things unless I believe in the side I'm arguing.

The math example I used isn't even hard math. it's junior high stuff and it was used as a metaphor to show what I felt about religion's impact on the world. I'm not trying to prove how smart I am. I'm just trying to shut up a fucking idiot who made a blanket statement. I didn't get on any atheists case or push the gospel on them so when they call me an idiot just because I believe in God I strike back.

And before you knock hard math, most of which I know nothing about, remember that with out it we wouldn't be on this forum debating in the first place, because no math geniuses means no computers or computer programmers to create the internet.

It just seems like you read his first sentence and decided to argue. Not noticing that his post was actually agreeing with the point that YOU made in your argument against me.

I know full well what he was saying in his post. I read the whole thing, but he took a shot at me when he said what he said about religion so I took one back. He wants to call me stupid, then he can show me how smart he is.

Not always easy to judge smart and stupid. Lets just say...ive known alotta smart stupid people...and a lot of supid smart people. If that makes sense.

So tell him that. I wasn't the one going around questioning people's brains.

And of course I full well know the difference between intelligence and wisdom. I had philosophy as well as science and math in my list of areas me and C-Blue could debate.

lol man...would your head explode if you let someone else get the last word?
In a topic like this he has every right to defend himself
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: C-BLUE on June 10, 2010, 07:04:08 PM
everybody has a right to defend themselves but he can't even do that. he's been underlining his stupidity. i can't fault him though...DNA is a bitch lol.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 10, 2010, 07:11:35 PM
Here's what I mean by English; just explain in words what needs to be done. First we leave the 3x and the 7 alone and focus on the 2(3x). You multiply the 2 with the 3x to get the 6x, keeping in mind the sign in front of the 2, to get the line 3x+7+6x. Then with the other side you leave the 5x and the -5 alone and expand the 4(2x) to get a negative 8x because the sign in front of the 4 is negative. So we are now seeing 3x+7+6x=5x-8x-5. From here we have to get all the constants on one side and the coefficients on the other. It doesn't matter which side, but for customary purposes we'll move the constants to the left. To do this you must maintain the equality of the line. For example the line is the same when it reads 3x+7+6x+8x=5x-8x-5+8x. You keep this up until you get 3x+6x+7+8x-5x-7=5x-8x-5+8x-5x-7. Then you collect the like terms and you'll see terms get eliminated and you are left with 12x=-12. From here you must once again keep the equality of the line intact by dividing both sides by the same value in order to isolate the x. So 12x/12=-12/12 becomes x=-1. The logic being if 12 Xs equals negative 12 then what is the value of 1 X.

There's no way anyone that doesn't understand the math could write what I wrote.


Now going back to what started this; I want someone to deny that I have a fully functioning brain. Because I believe that at the very least the world would be no better or worse with or with out religion. I believe that for every crusade battle or suicide bomb done in the name of God there is also through out history a hospital built or some great deed done in the name of God. Just like the equation above cancels itself out on both sides so does the good and bad in the name of God. That's my theory and my belief. I cannot count everyone that's been killed in a religious war and compare them to everyone that's been saved in a religious hospital but neither can you.

Some honesty for you man. You feeling the need to constantly argue no matter WHAT the point being made is, makes you look like a fool. You trying to prove your knowledge of different subjects on a message board, makes you appear to have somewhat of a complex. Nobody on here gives a shit about anyone elses math skills. I took pre-calculus/trig Junior year...and calculus senior year. Out here there was a county wide test that needed to be taken in order to qualify for Calculus in highschool. A difficult test where out of 40 questions, the average score was just under 18 correct. I scored 22 or something. And guess what...in the real world nobody gives a fuck. Including here.

First of all, C-Blue said no one with a fully functioning brain disagrees with the notion that the world would be better off with out religion. I wasn't arguing with you or calling anyone stupid. He was and I took issue with that. I do not now or ever argue for or against things unless I believe in the side I'm arguing.

The math example I used isn't even hard math. it's junior high stuff and it was used as a metaphor to show what I felt about religion's impact on the world. I'm not trying to prove how smart I am. I'm just trying to shut up a fucking idiot who made a blanket statement. I didn't get on any atheists case or push the gospel on them so when they call me an idiot just because I believe in God I strike back.

And before you knock hard math, most of which I know nothing about, remember that with out it we wouldn't be on this forum debating in the first place, because no math geniuses means no computers or computer programmers to create the internet.

It just seems like you read his first sentence and decided to argue. Not noticing that his post was actually agreeing with the point that YOU made in your argument against me.

I know full well what he was saying in his post. I read the whole thing, but he took a shot at me when he said what he said about religion so I took one back. He wants to call me stupid, then he can show me how smart he is.

Not always easy to judge smart and stupid. Lets just say...ive known alotta smart stupid people...and a lot of supid smart people. If that makes sense.

So tell him that. I wasn't the one going around questioning people's brains.

And of course I full well know the difference between intelligence and wisdom. I had philosophy as well as science and math in my list of areas me and C-Blue could debate.

lol man...would your head explode if you let someone else get the last word?
In a topic like this he has every right to defend himself

lol it goes further than this thread man.
Title: Re: "Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Post by: Blasphemy on July 02, 2010, 01:03:03 PM
Here's what I mean by English; just explain in words what needs to be done. First we leave the 3x and the 7 alone and focus on the 2(3x). You multiply the 2 with the 3x to get the 6x, keeping in mind the sign in front of the 2, to get the line 3x+7+6x. Then with the other side you leave the 5x and the -5 alone and expand the 4(2x) to get a negative 8x because the sign in front of the 4 is negative. So we are now seeing 3x+7+6x=5x-8x-5. From here we have to get all the constants on one side and the coefficients on the other. It doesn't matter which side, but for customary purposes we'll move the constants to the left. To do this you must maintain the equality of the line. For example the line is the same when it reads 3x+7+6x+8x=5x-8x-5+8x. You keep this up until you get 3x+6x+7+8x-5x-7=5x-8x-5+8x-5x-7. Then you collect the like terms and you'll see terms get eliminated and you are left with 12x=-12. From here you must once again keep the equality of the line intact by dividing both sides by the same value in order to isolate the x. So 12x/12=-12/12 becomes x=-1. The logic being if 12 Xs equals negative 12 then what is the value of 1 X.

There's no way anyone that doesn't understand the math could write what I wrote.


Now going back to what started this; I want someone to deny that I have a fully functioning brain. Because I believe that at the very least the world would be no better or worse with or with out religion. I believe that for every crusade battle or suicide bomb done in the name of God there is also through out history a hospital built or some great deed done in the name of God. Just like the equation above cancels itself out on both sides so does the good and bad in the name of God. That's my theory and my belief. I cannot count everyone that's been killed in a religious war and compare them to everyone that's been saved in a religious hospital but neither can you.

Some honesty for you man. You feeling the need to constantly argue no matter WHAT the point being made is, makes you look like a fool. You trying to prove your knowledge of different subjects on a message board, makes you appear to have somewhat of a complex. Nobody on here gives a shit about anyone elses math skills. I took pre-calculus/trig Junior year...and calculus senior year. Out here there was a county wide test that needed to be taken in order to qualify for Calculus in highschool. A difficult test where out of 40 questions, the average score was just under 18 correct. I scored 22 or something. And guess what...in the real world nobody gives a fuck. Including here.

First of all, C-Blue said no one with a fully functioning brain disagrees with the notion that the world would be better off with out religion. I wasn't arguing with you or calling anyone stupid. He was and I took issue with that. I do not now or ever argue for or against things unless I believe in the side I'm arguing.

The math example I used isn't even hard math. it's junior high stuff and it was used as a metaphor to show what I felt about religion's impact on the world. I'm not trying to prove how smart I am. I'm just trying to shut up a fucking idiot who made a blanket statement. I didn't get on any atheists case or push the gospel on them so when they call me an idiot just because I believe in God I strike back.

And before you knock hard math, most of which I know nothing about, remember that with out it we wouldn't be on this forum debating in the first place, because no math geniuses means no computers or computer programmers to create the internet.

It just seems like you read his first sentence and decided to argue. Not noticing that his post was actually agreeing with the point that YOU made in your argument against me.

I know full well what he was saying in his post. I read the whole thing, but he took a shot at me when he said what he said about religion so I took one back. He wants to call me stupid, then he can show me how smart he is.

Not always easy to judge smart and stupid. Lets just say...ive known alotta smart stupid people...and a lot of supid smart people. If that makes sense.

So tell him that. I wasn't the one going around questioning people's brains.

And of course I full well know the difference between intelligence and wisdom. I had philosophy as well as science and math in my list of areas me and C-Blue could debate.

lol man...would your head explode if you let someone else get the last word?
In a topic like this he has every right to defend himself

lol it goes further than this thread man.
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