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Title: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 02, 2010, 12:40:39 PM
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The reason I called this blog Hip Hop 101 because some people have forgetten the essence of the art and culture.
Bragging and boasting: When I was coming up. Every rapper had a attitude like Kanye. Now when you say you the best and act like you the best. Niggas get their feeling hurt.
Battling: If you scared to test your skills up against any MC in the game. Quit right now. Become a fuckin' ghost writer and go hide in the corner of the studio. Now they're 2 ways to battle. Freestyle live: To me this is like a slam dunk contest. Or battle on wax: I call this the Finals. That's Hip-Hop.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Fonkarround on May 02, 2010, 12:44:56 PM
i dont really feel what cube was tryin to say
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Bananas on May 02, 2010, 12:47:41 PM
yeah, I cosign that to the fullest, 100 percent.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 02, 2010, 01:11:28 PM
i dont really feel what cube was tryin to say

But that's the truth. Hip hop has always been a game of bragging and talking shit. Many careers have been made over showing they were better than another rapper. Now it seems like fans have forgotten that and catch feelings and act like groupies when someone disses the fuck out of someone they like.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: J.E. on May 02, 2010, 01:14:02 PM
I C/S that.


OFFTOPIC:
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Battling: If you scared to test your skills up against any MC in the game. Quit right now.

->>>>>>>> This is why Method Man should've answered to Budden with a song when Joey mentioned his name.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: ikke on May 02, 2010, 01:47:06 PM
People need to realize there is no Hip-Hop anymore.
It's a bunch of subcultures who originated out of hip-hop.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 02, 2010, 02:08:51 PM
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Battling: If you scared to test your skills up against any MC in the game. Quit right now.

->>>>>>>> This is why Method Man should've answered to Budden with a song when Joey mentioned his name.

exactly, but everybody got their feelings hurt like he insulted Hip Hop lol.

Joe Budden said he was better than Method Man (& other rappers) & said if he (or anybody) had something to say about it that he would take it to the booth.

that's why i was convinced Meth realized he couldn't handle him & eventually it became physical with Rae; they didn't want it & instead of hurting their pride/image & just backing down, they went beyond the mic.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Fonkarround on May 02, 2010, 02:11:11 PM
i dont really feel what cube was tryin to say

But that's the truth. Hip hop has always been a game of bragging and talking shit. Many careers have been made over showing they were better than another rapper. Now it seems like fans have forgotten that and catch feelings and act like groupies when someone disses the fuck out of someone they like.
english is not my first language so it might be it.. but if i understood that right, cube says that ppl dont show up no more (you know what i mean).. and if so - hows that important? he said that like its the most important thing.. when its definetly not
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: ikke on May 02, 2010, 02:12:06 PM
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Battling: If you scared to test your skills up against any MC in the game. Quit right now.

->>>>>>>> This is why Method Man should've answered to Budden with a song when Joey mentioned his name.

exactly, but everybody got their feelings hurt like he insulted Hip Hop lol.

Joe Budden said he was better than Method Man (& other rappers) & said if he (or anybody) had something to say about it that he would take it to the booth.

that's why i was convinced Meth realized he couldn't handle him & eventually it became physical with Rae; they didn't want it & instead of hurting their pride/image & just backing down, they went beyond the mic.
When you have beef with another rapper you risk being compared to him for the rest for your career.
Meth just didn't want to be compared to that emo.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: J.E. on May 02, 2010, 02:16:35 PM
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Battling: If you scared to test your skills up against any MC in the game. Quit right now.

->>>>>>>> This is why Method Man should've answered to Budden with a song when Joey mentioned his name.

exactly, but everybody got their feelings hurt like he insulted Hip Hop lol.

Joe Budden said he was better than Method Man (& other rappers) & said if he (or anybody) had something to say about it that he would take it to the booth.

that's why i was convinced Meth realized he couldn't handle him & eventually it became physical with Rae; they didn't want it & instead of hurting their pride/image & just backing down, they went beyond the mic.

Yeah. Eventhough when all that happened I kinda felt like Joey should've dropped a song first. I actually remember discussing with you about this back then & we didn't agree then but now I think Budden was right. Too bad that it went down the way it did.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 02, 2010, 02:21:12 PM
^yeah, alright lolll.

i'll always question Wu-Tang for that.

Rae sucker punches Joe; then Joe says he'll fight him one on one & Rae completely ignores it lol.

that's the main problem with it, the fans will NEVER side with the more recent guy; older the better; just mad close minded.

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Battling: If you scared to test your skills up against any MC in the game. Quit right now.

->>>>>>>> This is why Method Man should've answered to Budden with a song when Joey mentioned his name.

exactly, but everybody got their feelings hurt like he insulted Hip Hop lol.

Joe Budden said he was better than Method Man (& other rappers) & said if he (or anybody) had something to say about it that he would take it to the booth.

that's why i was convinced Meth realized he couldn't handle him & eventually it became physical with Rae; they didn't want it & instead of hurting their pride/image & just backing down, they went beyond the mic.

Yeah. Eventhough when all that happened I kinda felt like Joey should've dropped a song first. I actually remember discussing with you about this back then & we didn't agree then but now I think Budden was right. Too bad that it went down the way it did.

Joe said he made a song to diss Inspectah Deck right after he dissed Joe; but then Joe said "he didn't want to drop it".

that was pretty bitch by Joe, but overall, it really just didn't go down the right way; would have been dope to see.

at least that beef would have been somewhat recognized; this New West/Old West shit is so irrelavant because Cube & Jay Rock aren't even close the spotlight.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: NillerTheKid on May 02, 2010, 03:05:09 PM
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Battling: If you scared to test your skills up against any MC in the game. Quit right now.

->>>>>>>> This is why Method Man should've answered to Budden with a song when Joey mentioned his name.

exactly, but everybody got their feelings hurt like he insulted Hip Hop lol.

Joe Budden said he was better than Method Man (& other rappers) & said if he (or anybody) had something to say about it that he would take it to the booth.

that's why i was convinced Meth realized he couldn't handle him & eventually it became physical with Rae; they didn't want it & instead of hurting their pride/image & just backing down, they went beyond the mic.
Method Man said he was ready to go on a track with Joey and let the fans decide who's the better mc... so yeah, not scared (plus Rae didn't punch him, some no-name Ice Water affiliate did)
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 02, 2010, 03:09:35 PM
^yeah, alright lolll.

i'll always question Wu-Tang for that.

Rae sucker punches Joe; then Joe says he'll fight him one on one & Rae completely ignores it lol.

that's the main problem with it, the fans will NEVER side with the more recent guy; older the better; just mad close minded.

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Battling: If you scared to test your skills up against any MC in the game. Quit right now.

->>>>>>>> This is why Method Man should've answered to Budden with a song when Joey mentioned his name.

exactly, but everybody got their feelings hurt like he insulted Hip Hop lol.

Joe Budden said he was better than Method Man (& other rappers) & said if he (or anybody) had something to say about it that he would take it to the booth.

that's why i was convinced Meth realized he couldn't handle him & eventually it became physical with Rae; they didn't want it & instead of hurting their pride/image & just backing down, they went beyond the mic.

Yeah. Eventhough when all that happened I kinda felt like Joey should've dropped a song first. I actually remember discussing with you about this back then & we didn't agree then but now I think Budden was right. Too bad that it went down the way it did.

Joe said he made a song to diss Inspectah Deck right after he dissed Joe; but then Joe said "he didn't want to drop it".

that was pretty bitch by Joe, but overall, it really just didn't go down the right way; would have been dope to see.

at least that beef would have been somewhat recognized; this New West/Old West shit is so irrelavant because Cube & Jay Rock aren't even close the spotlight.

Joe Budden is closer to the spotlight than Cube? lol.

The Joe Budden situation failed because instead of releasing a diss song and proving himself, Budden talked shit on a vlog. Then got punched in the face and ended the beef.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 02, 2010, 03:19:52 PM
^yes.

Ice Cube is as far from the mainstream game as Budden & Budden has one million times the online support that Ice Cube does.

people who i didn't think really knew about Hip Hop like that knew about the Budden/Wu beef; but i'm sure they don't even know who Jay Rock is lol.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 02, 2010, 04:36:38 PM
^yes.

Ice Cube is as far from the mainstream game as Budden & Budden has one million times the online support that Ice Cube does.

people who i didn't think really knew about Hip Hop like that knew about the Budden/Wu beef; but i'm sure they don't even know who Jay Rock is lol.

Ice Cube has a million times the attention that Budden does. He does tv appearances talking about his albums. Budden makes vlogs that only this forum talks about. Cube started writing blogs and everyone and their mama talks about them. Cube may not be mainstream anymore but he's still way bigger than Budden.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 02, 2010, 05:39:13 PM
^bigger name, without question; but more kids recognize him as an actor than a rapper lol.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Action! on May 02, 2010, 05:40:53 PM
What kills me about the Budden situation is that he was just naturally commenting on it and everyone else got their feelings hurt.  If you watch the original video his intention was never to diss anyone, he just said he was better than them and thought he deserved a higher ranking.  He had issue with the merits of how they chose to rank people but Method Man got his feeling tied up like a bitch.  

Of course, Budden was also being a bitch.  You don't tell other people to diss you.  You diss them.  It's silly that way.

At the same time it's obvious Wu can't hold a torch to Budden today, or at least of them can't, because they didn't go into the booth and handle it like that.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Get It Off Ya Chest on May 02, 2010, 05:44:23 PM
in answer to the original question - yeah, i definitely agree with it
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 02, 2010, 10:56:45 PM
^bigger name, without question; but more kids recognize him as an actor than a rapper lol.

I bet you he'll still sell more than Slaughterhouse combined
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Jimmy H. on May 02, 2010, 11:23:26 PM
Cube may not be mainstream anymore but he's still way bigger than Budden.
He's definitely STILL mainstream. The acting and movie/TV producing is keeping him relevant but he can still perform his music on a mainstream stage when the time comes up. Let's not confuse the fact that he's not on a major label with the idea that he's not still in the public eye on a mainstream level.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 02, 2010, 11:29:34 PM
Cube can sell out his own concert tours. Budden? lol. I don't know what Cham is smoking saying that.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: ikke on May 03, 2010, 01:12:14 AM
^bigger name, without question; but more kids recognize him as an actor than a rapper lol.
Not Really, Go to church was pretty big
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Dre-Day on May 03, 2010, 01:16:58 AM
Cube may not be mainstream anymore but he's still way bigger than Budden.
He's definitely STILL mainstream. The acting and movie/TV producing is keeping him relevant but he can still perform his music on a mainstream stage when the time comes up. Let's not confuse the fact that he's not on a major label with the idea that he's not still in the public eye on a mainstream level.
yeah
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Jaydc on May 03, 2010, 07:48:51 AM
^yes.

Ice Cube is as far from the mainstream game as Budden & Budden has one million times the online support that Ice Cube does.

people who i didn't think really knew about Hip Hop like that knew about the Budden/Wu beef; but i'm sure they don't even know who Jay Rock is lol.

Ice Cube has a million times the attention that Budden does. He does tv appearances talking about his albums. Budden makes vlogs that only this forum talks about. Cube started writing blogs and everyone and their mama talks about them. Cube may not be mainstream anymore but he's still way bigger than Budden.

Your joking right?Budden is easily the most talked about rapper on the internet.In fact his forum is a lot bigger then most,the most this forum had online at once is what 300 people?His forum regurarly has that many people on at once.How do you think that whole wu tang thing started?Joe made one of his videos saying he was better then some rappers on vibes list and it blew way the fuck out of proportion.People love watching his videos just waiting for something controversial from him.Thats just straight ignorant if you think only people on here care about Joe budden,hes the number one internet rapper,not thats worth much lol.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 03, 2010, 09:38:07 AM
some of you underestimate the power of the internet.

^bigger name, without question; but more kids recognize him as an actor than a rapper lol.
Not Really, Go to church was pretty big

that's pretty old; but fine, Pump It Up was easily 100 times as big.

^bigger name, without question; but more kids recognize him as an actor than a rapper lol.

I bet you he'll still sell more than Slaughterhouse combined

probably, but look who you're talking to; fair to say i'm a pretty huge fan of their music & i don't have any one of their albums, but i have Laugh Now, Cry Later.

Cube has a more old school fan base, 40 year olds who are more likely to go to the store & cop it rather than Slaughterhouses' online fan bases with a majority of college kid fans who aren't going to spend money on an album when there is a thread on the website they are on, staring them in the face saying "Download 'Slaughterhouse' here".

Cube is only relevant in terms of TV; he drops an album every couple of years, his groupies call it "life altering" & the rest of us realize it's just a solid album, with some dope tracks & he moves on, we move on, we kind of forget about the album.

Joe Budden? he's recognized 100% as a rapper with the largest online fan base. Ice Cube? half of the people recognize him as a rapper, the other see him as an actor.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 03, 2010, 10:00:26 AM
Clearly if Cube sells more and is the bigger artist it means he's more relevant. I don't see how you can think otherwise.

Also, lol @ you bringing up Pump It Up. A song from 7 years ago has little bearing on Joe Budden's relevancy today. That has been his sole "hit" and he's more of a one-hit wonder than anything. If you want to go back that far then we might as well bring up Ice Cube's whole discography: legend status.

Don't get me wrong, relevancy has nothing to do with the quality of music. Soulja Boy is/was more relevant than both but I think we can admit he's complete trash. But you gotta be completely stanning to think Budden is more relevant than Ice Cube. How much did his last album sell? Exactly. End of discussion.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: ikke on May 03, 2010, 10:06:55 AM
^bigger name, without question; but more kids recognize him as an actor than a rapper lol.
Not Really, Go to church was pretty big

that's pretty old; but fine, Pump It Up was easily 100 times as big.
Wasn't talking about budden.
People our generation still reconize Cube as a rapper first.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 03, 2010, 11:52:47 AM
Clearly if Cube sells more and is the bigger artist it means he's more relevant. I don't see how you can think otherwise.

Also, lol @ you bringing up Pump It Up. A song from 7 years ago has little bearing on Joe Budden's relevancy today. That has been his sole "hit" and he's more of a one-hit wonder than anything. If you want to go back that far then we might as well bring up Ice Cube's whole discography: legend status.

Don't get me wrong, relevancy has nothing to do with the quality of music. Soulja Boy is/was more relevant than both but I think we can admit he's complete trash. But you gotta be completely stanning to think Budden is more relevant than Ice Cube. How much did his last album sell? Exactly. End of discussion.

i only brought up Pump It Up because somebody made it seem like "Go To Church" was on some "Lollipop/Candyshop" status lol.

Budden is clearly more relevant that Ice Cube; Ice Cube is not relevant at all as a rapper, unless your 30 years old, angry at the state of Hip Hop, stuck in the past & bank on Ice Cube to drop an album that will "change the game".

how did you skip over the whole fan base thing? Cube's fans by albums; have you ever seen pictures from a Slaughterhouse concert? it's not only majority white, but 90% of the audience is between the ages of 17-23; kids today just don't cop albums.

Slaugherhouse just signed to Shady, so all those stans wll quickly jump on them too; but that's just something to keep in mind for the future, it's an irrelevant fact here.

& it's not just stanning Budden or Slaughterhouse, it's just a fact; plenty of guys who don't have mainstream success are still more relevant that Cube because of the internet.

the rest of Slaughterhouse for example, Tech N9ne, Immortal Technique, Chamillionaire.

Ice Cube is just living on his legacy in terms of Hip Hop; yeah, maybe some talks arise when he's about to drop an album, but a month after the album drops, it's already long gone & forgetten.

nothing against Ice Cube, he's just irrelevant in 2010.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Muhfukka on May 03, 2010, 12:05:56 PM


Budden is clearly more relevant that Ice Cube; Ice Cube is not relevant at all as a rapper, unless your 30 years old, angry at the state of Hip Hop, stuck in the past & bank on Ice Cube to drop an album that will "change the game".


hahaha im far from an ice cube stan but this is straight up ridiculous
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Jaydc on May 03, 2010, 12:07:19 PM
Joe Budden has carved out a nice nichè in hip hop and has a dedicated fan base,but niether artist is relevant in the mainstream.That could change with the shady deal but it probably wont.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Muhfukka on May 03, 2010, 12:08:08 PM
put it like this, cube's old shit is stillmore relevant today than budden will ever be
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Jaydc on May 03, 2010, 12:10:26 PM
Ice cubes legacy far overshadows budden,its not even close lol.But joe budden in 2010 is better then ice cube in 2010.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 03, 2010, 12:19:18 PM
But joe budden in 2010 is better then ice cube in 2010.

i'd agree with that in a second, but you don't even have to take it there.

Joe Budden is more relevant than Ice Cube in 2010; you can even let them decide who they think is better, it doesn't matter.

Ice Cube will drop his next album, a few of you will spaz out like it's a classic, two weeks will go by & you'll forget it's even on your iPod & then there will be another two year period where you see Ice Cube in a movie or on TV & wonder if he's making a new Friday movie or Barbershop 3; NOT when he's dropping a new album, NOT that he's a rapper; but about his acting.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Muhfukka on May 03, 2010, 12:20:23 PM
chamilitary youre usually cool but whenever you talk about budden you sound like a whiny bitch
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 03, 2010, 02:05:38 PM
But joe budden in 2010 is better then ice cube in 2010.

i'd agree with that in a second, but you don't even have to take it there.

Joe Budden is more relevant than Ice Cube in 2010; you can even let them decide who they think is better, it doesn't matter.

Ice Cube will drop his next album, a few of you will spaz out like it's a classic, two weeks will go by & you'll forget it's even on your iPod & then there will be another two year period where you see Ice Cube in a movie or on TV & wonder if he's making a new Friday movie or Barbershop 3; NOT when he's dropping a new album, NOT that he's a rapper; but about his acting.

are you serious? It's hard to take you seriously when you make such moronic statements. Budden's last album sold like what, a couple thousand copies? I don't hear anyone talking about his last albums, or even his next one. Cube obviously isn't going to drop anymore classic albums, but neither is Budden, much less have anyone talk about them. Neither Budden or Cube are relevant in today's game, but when you compare them its not even close. You don't even have to look at Cube's classic discography. His albums from Laugh Now Cry Later on have gotten a million times more attention than anything Budden has done. Cube does shows where he is the headliner. Budden can't even carry a concert by himself for Christ's sake. Cube is still more relevant than the whole of Slaughterhouse, let alone Budden. This could possibly change if they sign with Eminem and get a major label album out, but as of this moment Cube is more relevant than anyone in Slaughterhouse. That should be obvious to anyone with half a brain.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Jaydc on May 03, 2010, 02:07:57 PM
padded room sold over 30 000 copies.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 03, 2010, 02:31:34 PM
padded room sold over 30 000 copies.

There you go. End topic.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Jaydc on May 03, 2010, 02:33:13 PM
30 000 copies is damn impressive considering its independant.But,again,both arent relevant in the mainstream today.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Jaydc on May 03, 2010, 02:50:54 PM
And buddens first album went gold.Hes not some unkown rapper hes a well known person.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: D-Nice on May 03, 2010, 03:03:50 PM
Wow I never knew doing movie roles affects how relevant you are in music. So if Joe Budden is offered a movie role, his credibility as a hip hop artist is compromised? So to "keep it real" artists should turn down all movie roles?
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 03, 2010, 03:13:11 PM
30 000 copies is damn impressive considering its independant.But,again,both arent relevant in the mainstream today.

I agree. But the issue was that Cham said Budden is more relevant than Cube, which is a ridiculous thing to say. And honestly, who gives a fuck if Budden had a gold album 7 years ago? I don't think you understand the meaning of relevancy.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: J.E. on May 03, 2010, 03:30:06 PM
I love it when in my 1st post I said "OFFTOPIC: This is why Meth should've answered Budden"...

now ..maybe a day later this thread is Cube vs. Budden popularity contest.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 03, 2010, 03:31:20 PM
i want to know why Cube is more relevant.

all i'm reading is, "you're crazy, Cube is more relevant".

what's the most major form of communication/passing information/most worldwide thing? the internet. whose got the most attention on the internet? Joe Budden.

just because you turn the TV on & they are talking about Cube (the actor) & you may have never heard Joe Budden's name mentioned once on TV, doesn't automatically make Cube more relevant.

Wow I never knew doing movie roles affects how relevant you are in music.

yeah, that's news to me lol.

anyway, it's a pointless argument because in the end Lil' Wayne & every other guy on the radio is more relevant; but it's whatever.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Meho on May 03, 2010, 03:36:08 PM
a) No way Budden has got the most attention on the internet b) since when does internet buzz=sales. Internet buzz is nothing, everybody can have one.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: ikke on May 03, 2010, 03:44:18 PM
i want to know why Cube is more relevant.

all i'm reading is, "you're crazy, Cube is more relevant".

what's the most major form of communication/passing information/most worldwide thing? the internet. whose got the most attention on the internet? Joe Budden.
Except Budden is only listened to by a hardcore fanbase (Hated by the rest) when every hip-hop head checks for Ice Cube records
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 03, 2010, 03:53:25 PM
Buddens is wack period, no matter what you wanna say and no matter how u feel, the fact remains is that the nigga is still WACK AS SHIT and will put u to sleep after track 3 on his album.... FACT.


Ice Cube on the other hand isn't Cube from 94'.  Ice Cube in fact really IS just an actor like LL Cool J and Will Smith has become but the difference with Ice Cube is that he's Ice Cube, the wrong nigga 2 fuck wit (he just uses albums for promo, like Dre does with Detox and all of the million other artist do).  That whole NWA Family Tree is dead now anyways, Snoop Dogg/Bone Thugs/MC Ren/Ice Cube/ and so on.  Yeah, they are all STILL my niggaz and I will ALWAYS love and support them niggaz and show love and defend em but these niggas are done.  Dr. Dre/Ice Cube/Ren/Yella should all come together and drop a curtain call album (the last official album from any of them) and call it a day.  Snoop should just team up Tha Dogg Pound (w/ Soopa, Rage, X, and Tray Deee) and have it produced TOP to Bottom by Dre, Quik, Daz, Sam Sneed, and Soopa and leave it at that.  And all of the rest of them niggaz need 2 fall back.  Get Bone Thugs back with UNeek and Yella and some other TIGHT ASS BOMB producer and leave that "they wanna be like Bone" shit at tha door and get back 2 that real shit, gangsta shit (which i personally prefer) or not and call it a day.  


Slaughterhouse is tight but really it should've only been 3 members (royce, crooked, ortiz) and have like maybe a home-team producer for them.  Luckily tho, they are kinda like the only artist that matter (i'm talking about tha whole NWA Family Tree which includes Slaughterhouse bcuz of Crooked/Royce/Ortiz and of course NWA- well only Dre mainly, but i ain't sayin Cube is wack tho).  They're kinda lucky i guess, bcuz without them Hip Hop in Today's world wouldn't matter as much, even if their newer shit is extremely wacker than they old shit (or not up 2 par).  


Buddens is garbage and if ur putting him in a side debate about ANYTHING that has 2 do with Ice Cube you're pretty much stanning HEAVY if ur even on Joey's side slightly.  Yeah Buddens is more of a technical lyricist but that doesn't mean he's better.  Yesterday or Today.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Jaydc on May 03, 2010, 03:54:44 PM
The sooner you realize opinions arent facts the sooner youll be slightly less of an idiot.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 03, 2010, 03:57:50 PM
a) No way Budden has got the most attention on the internet b) since when does internet buzz=sales. Internet buzz is nothing, everybody can have one.

a) whose got more?
b) obviously not, but how do sales determine relevance when nobody buys albums?

i think every person in this thread at one time or another has called me a Joe Budden stan, but even i haven't bought his albums & plenty others don't.

there are videos of his ACTUAL stans buying five-six copies of Padded Room, so i wouldn't be surprised if only 25,000 people bought the 30,000 copies.

so if everyone only bought one copy, he would of sold even less; it still doesn't take away that he's got a million fans; they just aren't as supportive as the 50 year olds who bump Ice Cube & don't even know how to download albums on the internet.

& on a side note, i think we're all in agreement that Ice Cube & Joe Budden are more relevant to mainstream Hip Hop than Radiotube is to this forum. ;D
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 03, 2010, 03:58:28 PM
The sooner you realize opinions arent facts the sooner youll be slightly less of an idiot.

it's a FACT that Joe Buddens is one of those rappers that people never really gave a shit about (this thread is proof) and it's a FACT that Ice Cube hasn't been the same Ice Cube Ass MC that he was in the 90's (this thread is also proof).  how bout u stop just looking for my attention and don't worry about wtf i gotta say.  
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Jaydc on May 03, 2010, 04:00:59 PM
So the fact that he has a gold album and has one of the if not the biggest followings on the internet  means nothing and people dont care...oh and his forum is bigger then this one,which is basically the only forum on the internet dedicated to the west.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 03, 2010, 04:01:15 PM
The sooner you realize opinions arent facts the sooner youll be slightly less of an idiot.

it's a FACT that Joe Buddens is one of those rappers that people never really gave a shit about (this thread is proof) and it's a FACT that Ice Cube hasn't been the same Ice Cube Ass MC that he was in the 90's (this thread is also proof).  how bout u stop just looking for my attention and don't worry about wtf i gotta say.  

yeah, Jay. it's a FACT nobody gives a shit about Budden. my proof? look at the whole three people in here that don't like him. ::)

they speak for the rest of the Hip Hop fan population.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: D-Nice on May 03, 2010, 04:03:33 PM
I love how Cubes fanbase gets older and older with each post with you Cham. Like younger people don't listen to his music?

I have seen Cube live and that was one of the most diverse crowd you will ever see for a artist.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 03, 2010, 04:05:05 PM
So the fact that he has a gold album and has one of the if not the biggest followings on the internet  means nothing and people dont care...oh and his forum is bigger then this one,which is basically the only forum on the internet dedicated to the west.


who's following this guy tho, really.  i mean, i don't hear much about Buddens other than the two people who speak on him in this forum.  truthfully tho, who is this guy.  i remember fast forwarding thru his verses on tha Slaughterhouse records, except that 1 that they did with Khalil (i'm on fire, i'm tryna make the devil proud of me, sleepin in gasoline incase a nigga got it out 4 me).  yeah, that was a classic ass line but the nigga don't get no bigga than that.  Joe Buddens is like the Geniss of Beers of a world with no Africans and drink mixers.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 03, 2010, 04:05:26 PM
I love how Cubes fanbase gets older and older with each post with you Cham. Like younger people don't listen to his music?

I have seen Cube live and that was one of the most diverse crowd you will ever see for a artist.

he's just hurt that's all. 
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Jaydc on May 03, 2010, 04:07:35 PM
Again,go to his forum,its bigger in size then this forum.Your just coming off as an idiot,if you dont like you dont like,music is subjective and everyones opinion differs.But stop trying to play off your opinions as fact when you clearly have no idea what your talking about...www.joebuddentv.com theres his site,i suggest you go check it out.In fact watch all his videos their actually pretty entertaining even if you dont like the guy.Educate yourself on the subject before speaking on it.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 03, 2010, 04:12:26 PM
I love how Cubes fanbase gets older and older with each post with you Cham. Like younger people don't listen to his music?

I have seen Cube live and that was one of the most diverse crowd you will ever see for a artist.

it's true though.

i'll go "Radiotube status" here & drop a FACT; Ice Cube without a doubt has more older/old school fans than Joe Budden does.

i'd LOVE to see the statistics of what age of people buys Cube's albums; it would probably be the true end of the thread.

& i'll honestly say this, if you're a teenager & you're not a real big Hip Hop fan; like you bump what's on the radio, you came up on Eminem & Kanye West, to answer your question, no, younger people don't listen to his music; hence why he's irrelevant.

younger than 40 & 50? sure, plenty of people in their later 20's & 30's bump Cube on a decent basis; but if you're younger than that & you didn't come up on it & you aren't down with a wide range of Hip Hop, you likely don't.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 03, 2010, 04:16:19 PM
I love how Cubes fanbase gets older and older with each post with you Cham. Like younger people don't listen to his music?

I have seen Cube live and that was one of the most diverse crowd you will ever see for a artist.

he's just hurt that's all. 

that's like the most generic response for somebody who has nothing to say & is reaching; way to go. ;)

can anybody show me a thread where more than one other person defended Joe Budden? you guys swarm on the chance to shit on Joe Budden.

getting serious hatred? time & time again? only signs of relevance; you guys clearly know enough about him to make all these critical comments, right?
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 03, 2010, 04:21:59 PM
i want to know why Cube is more relevant.

all i'm reading is, "you're crazy, Cube is more relevant".

what's the most major form of communication/passing information/most worldwide thing? the internet. whose got the most attention on the internet? Joe Budden.

just because you turn the TV on & they are talking about Cube (the actor) & you may have never heard Joe Budden's name mentioned once on TV, doesn't automatically make Cube more relevant.

Wow I never knew doing movie roles affects how relevant you are in music.

yeah, that's news to me lol.

anyway, it's a pointless argument because in the end Lil' Wayne & every other guy on the radio is more relevant; but it's whatever.

album sales and the attention given to the music is a clear indication of relevance. Padded Room sold 30k. His next project Escape Route sold next to nothing. Some people may download the album, but I don't think there's any greater percentage of people downloading Budden than they are any other rapper. Internet buzz has little to do with relevance, otherwise Crooked I and Bishop Lamont would also be relevant. Joe Budden isn't the biggest name on the internet, he just happens to be one of the only rappers making blogs and videos 24-7 and has built up his own little internet community. Again that isn't relevance in the hip hop community when no one else is buying your albums. How is Joe Budden having his own forum relevant to his music career, yet Cube being all over tv and movies isn't? The guy makes videos running his mouth off and showing off his girlfriend and you think that makes his music relevant?

btw I don't think relevance is really all that important, but you are the one who brought it up so I'm correcting your mistake.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 03, 2010, 04:24:57 PM
I love how Cubes fanbase gets older and older with each post with you Cham. Like younger people don't listen to his music?

I have seen Cube live and that was one of the most diverse crowd you will ever see for a artist.

he's just hurt that's all. 

that's like the most generic response for somebody who has nothing to say & is reaching; way to go. ;)

can anybody show me a thread where more than one other person defended Joe Budden? you guys swarm on the chance to shit on Joe Budden.

getting serious hatred? time & time again? only signs of relevance; you guys clearly know enough about him to make all these critical comments, right?

I love how you assume this is an attack on budden when its simply stating fact (at least it was until radiotube came in here). Joe Budden making entertaining videos has as little to do with his music career as does Cube's acting.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Jaydc on May 03, 2010, 04:25:59 PM
Well considering he got on say the bet awards cypher based strictly off his internet buzz is saying something.He then proceed to have the best cypher of the night,which was agreed upon by everyone on the internet,eminem even called him personally to congratulate him on it.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Jaydc on May 03, 2010, 04:28:20 PM
Hell I mean,slaughterhouses whole buzz is from the internet and their deal with shady is based off their internet buzz.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Jaydc on May 03, 2010, 04:32:35 PM
Here is that great cypher hahah...on a sidenote,how does anyone like nikki minaj,shes irritating.

http://www.youtube.com/v/j1IAbEzcbAA&hl=en_US&fs=1&
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 03, 2010, 04:34:16 PM
lol, stans til the very end...why does it have to be this back and forth shit with you? Is this the same awards where Ice Cube won the I Am Hip Hop award? Ice Cube is more relevant than Budden, that's all I'm saying. It's not a comment on the quality of either of their music. Can you at least agree with that?
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Jaydc on May 03, 2010, 04:38:28 PM
Im saying their both irrelvant to the mainstream but im a stan? ::)
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 03, 2010, 04:49:58 PM
Im saying their both irrelvant to the mainstream but im a stan? ::)

exactly. You're avoiding answering the question. Clearly neither are mainstream now. The question was who is more relevant? If you don't have an answer then why do you keep replying? It seems you're only here to "defend" Budden
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Jaydc on May 03, 2010, 04:52:07 PM
Im saying niether is more relevant then the other.Niether gets mainstream push anymore and both have a solid fanbase that are the only people that check for them.Their both on the same level in 2010.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 03, 2010, 04:54:30 PM
hahah, I knew you couldn't say anything different. Despite everything I've brought up. If this isn't going anywhere then fuck budden, lets get back to the original topic
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Jaydc on May 03, 2010, 04:56:33 PM
What am I supposed to say?Its the fucking truth.Cube survives on his legacy alone,and each album he sells less because the music isnt very good and peopel loose interest.So in what is he relevant today musically?And budden has a nichè and has a solid fan base but he isnt relevant to the mainstream,hes underground.Their both independant artists that survive on their cult follower.So how is either fucking relevant?
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Jaydc on May 03, 2010, 04:57:36 PM
Whats your proof that ice cube is more relevant then joe budden in 2010 musically rapsodie?
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 03, 2010, 05:05:53 PM
Whats your proof that ice cube is more relevant then joe budden in 2010 musically rapsodie?

What more proof do you need besides album sales? Or shit, even the amount of attention his albums get. It may be based off his legacy, but that legacy at present is still bigger than Budden.
Title: all of u cats r funny foreal lol
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 03, 2010, 05:09:02 PM
lol, y do yall want my attention so much.


and lol x2 at ya'll actually having a debate about Joe Buddens and Ice Cube, like u can just compare the two like that so easily, and tha notion that there's actually something 2 debate about.  u guys aren't real hip hop fans man, y'all r some real clowns foreal.  i'm done, say whatchu' gotta say.  all i know is that i can say something 2 somebody else that isn't on tha computer and isn't related to me, too bad y'all can't do tha same.  

really tho, is it all that serious.  i'm sure Cube and Buddens are sittin' down right now reading this shit and laffin their asses off and crying.  u guys r tha only 1's making it seem bigger than it really is.  THE WORLD KNOWS (even Buddens kids) that Cube is the overall better artist in all debates, even the lyrical.  Joey's a punchline artist (nothing more) and if u wanna go n2 some debate about that u CANT forget about everything else that MAKES an artist.  Cube wins eazy, this thread just makes y'all look like nerds foreal.  "do u agree with this quote" who cares dogg, lol, go suck on an ice cube or somethin.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Jaydc on May 03, 2010, 05:19:02 PM
A punch line artist?You really have no idea what your talking about.

And album sales dont mean shit in this day and age.Downloads are a more accurate representation of music in this day and age.And when I am the west drops Id be willing to bet it flops badly.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 03, 2010, 05:41:46 PM
so then who is the biggest name on the internet? lol.

& him having his own forum has nothing to do with his relevance just like Ice Cube being on TV & acting has nothing to do with his relevance to Hip Hop.

it's not the fact that he has his own forum, other rappers have their own forums, it's just the talk from forum to forum across the internet about him.

where Ice Cube gets talked about here, that's a given. i mean shit, the promotional banner across the top of this website is "Ice Cube - I Am The West/I Rep The West".

it's West Coast, of course he comes up, but you won't see him come up on other forums; maybe with an album on the way for the time being, but Budden comes up all the time on all forums; year round; album or no album.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: D-Nice on May 03, 2010, 05:59:55 PM
so then who is the biggest name on the internet? lol.

& him having his own forum has nothing to do with his relevance just like Ice Cube being on TV & acting has nothing to do with his relevance to Hip Hop.

it's not the fact that he has his own forum, other rappers have their own forums, it's just the talk from forum to forum across the internet about him.

where Ice Cube gets talked about here, that's a given. i mean shit, the promotional banner across the top of this website is "Ice Cube - I Am The West/I Rep The West".

it's West Coast, of course he comes up, but you won't see him come up on other forums; maybe with an album on the way for the time being, but Budden comes up all the time on all forums; year round; album or no album.

I actually have seen Cube come up in many forums. I make the arguement though that both are still relevant. As far as a case study I graduated college so that seems a lil bit too much like school so I will pass lol.

There are more than just TV, internet, etc to being relevant. Whether it is to my liking or the other 22,000 or so members is strictly a personal preference. If you can have as large of a forum, or internet following as Budden or have TNT or ESPN play your music or your documentary like Cube, that is relevancy
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Jaydc on May 03, 2010, 06:02:49 PM
I can agree with D nice more or less.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 03, 2010, 06:42:16 PM
I can agree with D nice more or less.


u can agree with theze nutz too
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 03, 2010, 09:47:38 PM
A punch line artist?You really have no idea what your talking about.

And album sales dont mean shit in this day and age.Downloads are a more accurate representation of music in this day and age.And when I am the west drops Id be willing to bet it flops badly.

I don't know how much it will sell, but I'm willing to bet it sells more than 30k. You act like downloads say something that sales don't. So you mean to tell me that Budden has a ton of fans, they just all happen to download his music whereas Cube's fans all buy his? There is downloading going on, but not anymoreso for Budden than any other artist.

As far as forum talk, I frequent a few forums and this is really the only one I've been to where Budden is talked about on a regular basis. I doubt overall that Budden has any bigger of an internet presence than Cube does, apart from his own website and forum.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Action! on May 03, 2010, 09:52:11 PM
jaydc, i actually think you're wrong that budden doesn't have a presence.  he's been all over the major interweb features and he's even been in the lame hip-hop weekly.  things he does gets attention by cats and ends up being talked about on the radio. 

if slaughterhouse wasn't making any noise they wouldn't even have the possiblity of signing to shady

I do agree that Cube has a larger following but you're dismissing budden as a no name which he clearly isn't
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 03, 2010, 09:56:25 PM
I do agree that Cube has a larger following

this is all i'm trying to get out of you, nothing else needs to be said
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Action! on May 03, 2010, 10:01:40 PM
I do agree that Cube has a larger following

this is all i'm trying to get out of you, nothing else needs to be said

well, i completely agree with that statement. hell his work with nwa is bigger than budden.   can anyone deny that?
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 03, 2010, 10:05:07 PM
will budden ever be able to surpass that? lol





I do agree that Cube has a larger following

this is all i'm trying to get out of you, nothing else needs to be said

well, i completely agree with that statement. hell his work with nwa is bigger than budden.   can anyone deny that?
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Jaydc on May 03, 2010, 10:18:30 PM
jaydc, i actually think you're wrong that budden doesn't have a presence.  he's been all over the major interweb features and he's even been in the lame hip-hop weekly.  things he does gets attention by cats and ends up being talked about on the radio. 

if slaughterhouse wasn't making any noise they wouldn't even have the possiblity of signing to shady

I do agree that Cube has a larger following but you're dismissing budden as a no name which he clearly isn't

You must not be reading all my posts,Ive clearly defended budden and his following,im one of them lol.Ive mentioned his presence.But as far as mainstream relevancy he doesnt really have one,not right now anyway.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Action! on May 03, 2010, 10:19:40 PM
jaydc, i actually think you're wrong that budden doesn't have a presence.  he's been all over the major interweb features and he's even been in the lame hip-hop weekly.  things he does gets attention by cats and ends up being talked about on the radio. 

if slaughterhouse wasn't making any noise they wouldn't even have the possiblity of signing to shady

I do agree that Cube has a larger following but you're dismissing budden as a no name which he clearly isn't

You must not be reading all my posts,Ive clearly defended budden and his following,im one of them lol.Ive mentioned his presence.But as far as mainstream relevancy he doesnt really have one,not right now anyway.

yeah, i know i'm not sure what i put your name.  i thought that other cat was you.  sorry.

i'm taking a major L in this thread for not reading...
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Hancock on May 04, 2010, 01:51:00 AM
DubCC - Total Members: 20,994

Joe Budden Forum - Members: 16,427

/thread
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Al Bundy on May 04, 2010, 02:02:29 AM
Buddens is wack period, no matter what you wanna say and no matter how u feel, the fact remains is that the nigga is still WACK AS SHIT and will put u to sleep after track 3 on his album.... FACT.

i think i may have found something i can co-sign from radiotube lol
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Bananas on May 04, 2010, 02:19:16 AM
This thread is funny because Joe Buddens is not entertaining to listen to.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: J.E. on May 04, 2010, 03:49:02 AM
This thread is funny because Joe Buddens is not entertaining to listen to.

Let's be honest though. This thread is asscheeks-status because bunch of people started arguing because of my post in the 1st page eventhough I clearly stated that the Method Man & Joe Budden comparison was off topic.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 04, 2010, 07:25:06 AM
Joe Budden Forum - Members: 16,427


but that's probably about a good estimate of how many people actually fuck wit Buddens or listen to his music.  Let's not gas this nigga up bcuz he's in Slaughterhouse and his bitch was bad.  Buddens is kinda like the PosterChild for the average/mediocre/ok rapper.  Yeah, in today he would probably beat Meth at a battle but Meth has been doin' other shit since BEFORE Buddens got on.  And "Pump It Up" was wack too, that single he had with R Kelly and "Focus" (atleast tha instro) were like the only things that came from Buddens that weren't half bad.  Other than that you'll yawn like a muthafucka tryna get thru his music, especially since he picks some of the WORST beats. 


So Please don't come in here and try 2 get Joe Buddens poppin' off in here like he's the next GOAT (or anywhere close to that rank).  Tha nigga is not that hot and he will NEVER be bigger than where he's at now, even if Slaughterhouse dropped a single featuring Eminem produced by Dr. Dre with Lady Gaga on the hook, Buddens will never live up 2 the HYPE u FEW are giving him right now.  And I repeat NEVER.  Don't blow this bloggin' shit outta proportion just bcuz the nigga got some fans (u have 2 be real or atleast have common sense to know that).  Rappers and bloggers steadily blow this internet shit up like it's the only thing that matters or gives u a true accurate statement about the climate of whatever.  Keep that "Joe Buddens is a monster" shit  at his forum.  This is the world wide internet homie, and Buddens been out for almost 10 years and he only has those few people following him, i'm sure half of which don't even really support it or feel tha same way ya'll make it out 2 be.  I'm sure his forum is just somewhere 2 be like DubCC.


and Nicki Minaj bodied that cypher.  IMHO (there i used that word) she had the best spittin' foreal (her showmanship and lines blew most of them niggas outta tha water).  Buddens had that 1 line about "the teacher's pet" and that's it.  i'm not sayin' what he was sayin' was completely wack but there was a couple other niggas that night that fucked it up too.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 04, 2010, 10:31:39 AM
DubCC - Total Members: 20,994

Joe Budden Forum - Members: 16,427

/thread

if you seriously believe we have just 1,000 active users, you're nuts; 19,000 of those are aliases lol.

& out of that 16,427, i'm not one of them & i thought i was such a big stan..lmfao.

& what's this? who gets the bigger following? where has this debate gone to? it's relevancy, not whose got more fans.

most of Cube's fans are from music made almost twenty years ago lol.

some of you are making it out like i said Joe Budden is better than Ice Cube has ever been; there is just straight up hatred in this thread & it's adoreable. :D
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 04, 2010, 10:34:48 AM
& Radiotube, you're an idiot.

you still believe being "big" & "being heard on the radio" = being a good rapper.

you need to go fall in a hole.

"Joe's been out for 10 years." :D

he's gotten more credit for his more recent music than his earliest stuff; you're just musically illiterate.

also, nobody called him a "future GOAT"; you need help, desperately.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 04, 2010, 11:03:52 AM
no yall r stupid 4 keep tryna spin my words around like i'm actually postin around here sayin shit like Gucci is better than Nas and I only get my info from the internet, shit boggles me yo.  especially u and ur other 2 boyfriends on here.  i'm still tryna figure out how yall come 2 these conclusions about my taste in hip hop.  but then again, i know ur just fuckin' wit me so it's all good.  i know yall dont even believe yallself most of the shit yall say about me and what i be on so all of u haters........ r irrelevant
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 04, 2010, 11:20:00 AM
no yall r stupid 4 keep tryna spin my words around like i'm actually postin around here sayin shit like Gucci is better than Nas and I only get my info from the internet, shit boggles me yo.  especially u and ur other 2 boyfriends on here.  i'm still tryna figure out how yall come 2 these conclusions about my taste in hip hop.  but then again, i know ur just fuckin' wit me so it's all good.  i know yall dont even believe yallself most of the shit yall say about me and what i be on so all of u haters........ r irrelevant

you're talking irrelevant shit.

i just pointed out 3 things in your last post that are ridiculous lol..
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Jaydc on May 04, 2010, 11:23:25 AM
DubCC - Total Members: 20,994

Joe Budden Forum - Members: 16,427

/thread

Im talking about active member,most of those dubcc members are aliases and what not.You really believe dubcc has that many actualy members when the most people online at once is 320?LOL.I just went over to the joebudden forum and hes got 350 people online right now at this time of day lol.

And the fact that you just said nikki minaj had the best cypher of the night automatically makes your opinion worthless.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Action! on May 04, 2010, 11:50:15 AM
Based on the crowd reaction Budden had the best verse. 


Budden is dope.  He wasn't on my radar until the Saigon beef and he merked Sai.  Then I was in denial because I was huge Saigon fan.  Then Joell Ortiz started fucking with dude and I checked out Slaughterhouse.  Then I proceeded to all his past music, starting with his recent music.  Budden is dope.

I actually think most people are more like me - Budden not on their radar but when he gets there and gives his music a chance, they enjoy the majority of it and stay a fan due to his consistency and improvement. 
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: Jaydc on May 04, 2010, 11:52:36 AM
Based on the crowd reaction Budden had the best verse. 


Budden is dope.  He wasn't on my radar until the Saigon beef and he merked Sai.  Then I was in denial because I was huge Saigon fan.  Then Joell Ortiz started fucking with dude and I checked out Slaughterhouse.  Then I proceeded to all his past music, starting with his recent music.  Budden is dope.

I actually think most people are more like me - Budden not on their radar but when he gets there and gives his music a chance, they enjoy the majority of it and stay a fan due to his consistency and improvement. 

This.Most people just dont want to give him a chance.Ive heard people complain about his voice,but I just dont see it.They turn around and listen to gucci mane,camron and nikki minaj,go figure.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: ikke on May 04, 2010, 02:09:10 PM
Based on the crowd reaction Budden had the best verse. 


Budden is dope.  He wasn't on my radar until the Saigon beef and he merked Sai.  Then I was in denial because I was huge Saigon fan.  Then Joell Ortiz started fucking with dude and I checked out Slaughterhouse.  Then I proceeded to all his past music, starting with his recent music.  Budden is dope.

I actually think most people are more like me - Budden not on their radar but when he gets there and gives his music a chance, they enjoy the majority of it and stay a fan due to his consistency and improvement. 

This.Most people just dont want to give him a chance.Ive heard people complain about his voice,but I just dont see it.They turn around and listen to gucci mane,camron and nikki minaj,go figure.
That's because Budden fans make you hate Budden.
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: blackaUK on May 04, 2010, 02:28:37 PM
hmmm...Hip Hop is very competitive.
I can respect the battling (freestyle competitions) and battling on wax, however when it becomes deadly...thats not hip hop, thats gangsta shit lol
Tupac & Biggie for example, 50 cent & Ja Rule.  That was not battling, that was something else.
but yes, cuturally, hip hop is about battles and getting your name out there, but nowadays hip hop is starting to be more business orientated.  Battling with somebody, can make someone lose revenue, which in return can turn into something very gangsta, POW POW
Title: Re: Do you agree with this quote?
Post by: blackaUK on May 04, 2010, 02:33:54 PM
hmmm...Hip Hop is very competitive.
I can respect the battling (freestyle competitions) and battling on wax, however when it becomes deadly...thats not hip hop, thats gangsta shit lol
Tupac & Biggie for example, 50 cent & Ja Rule.  That was not battling, that was something else.
but yes, cuturally, hip hop is about battles and getting your name out there, but nowadays hip hop is starting to be more business orientated.  Battling with somebody, can make someone lose revenue, which in return can turn into something very gangsta, POW POW
Almost forgot, Joe buddens & Raekwon lol

Joe Buddens is a nice MC, no doubt there.
but he lacks a little bit of hoodness.  thats all, but i still rock with Joey after he got slapped up by Raekwon. He definitely ended Saigon\'s career.
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Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 04, 2010, 04:06:51 PM
Based on the crowd reaction Budden had the best verse. 


Budden is dope.  He wasn't on my radar until the Saigon beef and he merked Sai.  Then I was in denial because I was huge Saigon fan.  Then Joell Ortiz started fucking with dude and I checked out Slaughterhouse.  Then I proceeded to all his past music, starting with his recent music.  Budden is dope.

I actually think most people are more like me - Budden not on their radar but when he gets there and gives his music a chance, they enjoy the majority of it and stay a fan due to his consistency and improvement. 

you thought he beat Saigon? i thought Saigon killed Joe.

& yeah, i was actually a Joe Budden hater, then somebody kicked me Halfway House & i couldn't stop bumping it; the rest is history. ;)
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Post by: Jaydc on May 04, 2010, 04:08:33 PM
I didnt think their was a clear cut winner in the diss tracks they both got at eachother pretty good.But saigon has since dissapeared oddly enough.
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Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 04, 2010, 04:13:43 PM
I didnt think their was a clear cut winner in the diss tracks they both got at eachother pretty good.But saigon has since dissapeared oddly enough.

Joe held his own, got him pretty good on "Pain In His Life"; but i personally thought Saigon took that one.

it was close though.
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Post by: BOX5 the best poster on this site yell on May 06, 2010, 02:45:24 PM
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The reason I called this blog Hip Hop 101 because some people have forgetten the essence of the art and culture.
Bragging and boasting: When I was coming up. Every rapper had a attitude like Kanye. Now when you say you the best and act like you the best. Niggas get their feeling hurt.
Battling: If you scared to test your skills up against any MC in the game. Quit right now. Become a fuckin' ghost writer and go hide in the corner of the studio. Now they're 2 ways to battle. Freestyle live: To me this is like a slam dunk contest. Or battle on wax: I call this the Finals. That's Hip-Hop.
i agree with alot of this, the battle part is a lil different tho,cause i feel like if i'm in pure song mode,i ain't trip'n off what some other mc is saying at times yell