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Title: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 03, 2010, 10:13:33 PM
drop the dopest traxx and whatever you got...why hes better than (insert producer)...
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: J.D. Wykid, Esq. on May 03, 2010, 10:15:10 PM
wrong section.  alc is from the west coast.  beverly hills, to be exact. 
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 03, 2010, 10:16:03 PM
what part? lol
new york, cali



wrong section.  alc is from the west coast. 
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Lucifuge on May 03, 2010, 11:15:37 PM
Thug Muzik

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXk6qxwzhF4

Im the King

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ura-ijtpzvM

Worst Comes To Worst

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sevZEOUXpw4&feature=fvst

 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: K.Dub on May 03, 2010, 11:50:26 PM
Thug Muzik

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXk6qxwzhF4

That beat is awesome.
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Sikotic™ on May 03, 2010, 11:51:22 PM
what part? lol
new york, cali



wrong section.  alc is from the west coast. 
How can you hate a west coast producer, loc?
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: CHUCK KNOXXX on May 04, 2010, 12:29:19 AM
i opted to go with some of my favorite the lesser known cuts, cuz there's too many obvious examples....

http://www.youtube.com/v/5CsV9kXie_M&hl=en_US&fs=1&

http://www.youtube.com/v/OppBExX8EUA&hl=en_US&fs=1&

http://www.youtube.com/v/T2OUu7AbGkc&hl=en_US&fs=1&

http://www.youtube.com/v/cqULxRzAOfs&hl=en_US&fs=1&

http://www.youtube.com/v/oSqHkDZwEBE&hl=en_US&fs=1&

http://www.youtube.com/v/CExAubeRTFU&hl=en_US&fs=1&

...or you can peep any of the cuts from my crews mixtape from last year  8) :
http://www.datpiff.com/embed/mixtape/md938b73/
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Al Bundy on May 04, 2010, 01:53:13 AM
alchemist is the fucking shit.
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: sprite on May 04, 2010, 02:11:32 AM
alchemist is cool to me cause he's just plain old rap
one of those carry on tradition type beat makers

he's the type that can a make you listen to a track even if the rapper is boring/wack

he got a good ear for samples too


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a35oCmbdpbU
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on May 04, 2010, 02:50:27 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/W-9e3hCvE28&hl=en_US&fs=1&

Nuff said!!!
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: LLCoolA on May 04, 2010, 03:18:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/WjxLdsr1hO8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjxLdsr1hO8)  8)
that 1st infantry album has sick beats
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: LLCoolA on May 04, 2010, 03:21:55 AM
^ sample to tick tock. some smooth/laid back  shit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPrXd2LhxJU
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Jome on May 04, 2010, 04:16:49 AM
Damn it enyce, I thought you learned your lesson when I posted up a mix with these bangers the other day:

http://usershare.net/vz3ndisprvmj

Mobb Deep - The Illest
Alchemist ft. Havoc, Jae Hood, Styles P. & Noyd - D-Block 2 QB
Cam'ron - Wet Wipes
Capone N Noreaga feat. Foxy Brown - Bang Bang
Dilated Peoples - Worst comes to worst
Mobb Deep - Win Or Lose
Mobb Deep - Got It Twisted
Mobb Deep - Poppin' Bottles
Mobb Deep feat. 50 Cent - The Infamous
Rosco P. Coldchain feat. 50 Cent - Break Me
Mobb Deep - Somebody Be Dead
Common feat. Papoose - Rebel Muzik
Prodigy - Young Veterans
Prodigy - Keep It Thorough
Afu-Ra feat. Royce Da 5'9'' - Pusha
Royce Da 5'9'' - I'm The King
Styles P. - A Gangster and a Gentleman
Eastsidaz feat. Kokane - Friends
Eastsidaz feat. Mobb Deep - Connected

So many classics.. I could have posted 50 more joints just as dope as the ones above..  8) 8)

And yeah ALC was West coast, but I'ma keep the thread in Outbound, ALC explained it in a song:

"I'm West coast, I'ma rep it forever - but I had to move to the east to get all of my respect and my cheddar"


Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Cios on May 04, 2010, 04:29:36 AM
Why does rappers and producers always have to be compared to eachother?

Just enjoy the damn music since Alchemist is a unique producer and he's doing his thing.
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: ikke on May 04, 2010, 04:32:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/g77OAwP4-ok

This is the actual sample, alch took this to another level:
http://www.youtube.com/v/09l_zXCQpik
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on May 04, 2010, 04:52:40 AM
some of his work with Dilated Peoples alone earns him a place in the top producers of all time imo...

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/_Qgt8pyw6w8http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/sevZEOUXpw4http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/vqYSWA2ce-k
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/7_UI8_oPl68http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/ycu8gi3iFWghttp://www.youtube.com/watch/v/XyRGGXaEK10

plus...

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/JXN7YTlPq6Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch/v/_1b5bw-6QCchttp://www.youtube.com/watch/v/j_71OvVX2eUhttp://www.youtube.com/watch/v/PCY_oxY6ZXEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch/v/cfluDjr9Richttp://www.youtube.com/watch/v/ewLnGQJkla0http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/5wYBB3kK_e0http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/ErVpSRz1V3Mhttp://www.youtube.com/watch/v/zQQtL4UaYG8http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/Q6Nxe-9iiNshttp://www.youtube.com/watch/v/9FLFvWE72YMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch/v/tw2391wrHcghttp://www.youtube.com/watch/v/l6IDOpQclAAhttp://www.youtube.com/watch/v/1UYFDOpWD_8http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/kVjoI7SDqzghttp://http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/ClOggXvyAbchttp://www.youtube.com/watch/v/a9HuGts2_SQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch/v/jlBe4dh7VkQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch/v/-YHy1VJqftwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch/v/FEGs5f1nsTk


i got fed up...u get the point tho...ALC is a beast, defo in my top 5 of all time i would say 8)
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Paul on May 04, 2010, 05:04:12 AM
In the Top 10 hip hop producers ever imo.


His work with Evidence is my favourite
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 04, 2010, 09:12:24 AM
aite from those listed still his best piece of work IMO is worst comes to worst both og and remix
the other joints are cool but you makin it seem like hes beyond hi-teks talent and others
and jome...tryna get everyones input on this GREAT producer
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Big B on May 04, 2010, 10:01:50 AM
alchemist is the fucking shit.
indeed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7YYP85qhwM
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: SCREWFACE on May 04, 2010, 10:47:11 AM
Im the King

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ura-ijtpzvM


poor rugged man  >:(
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Lucifuge on May 04, 2010, 01:04:19 PM
Im the King

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ura-ijtpzvM


poor rugged man  >:(

its not the same beat,this royce iz better like 1000 times...
 
back on topic,or just go 2 listing Prodigy Return of the Mac  8)
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Lucifuge on May 04, 2010, 01:14:10 PM
here it is Rugged version

stanley kubrick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7EmDByENec

 8) 8)
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: FUCK U on May 04, 2010, 02:06:19 PM
THE ILLEST! fUCKIN SICK 8)
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 04, 2010, 02:15:31 PM
dope joints....top 20
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: BIGWORM on May 04, 2010, 02:23:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcavjurB32g


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we3yET50hmU
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Jome on May 04, 2010, 03:16:19 PM
dope joints....top 20

lol, enyce is finally coming around, but slowly.. top 10 within some weeks?  8)
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Young Old Head on May 04, 2010, 03:37:14 PM
just to add some of my personal favorites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRPkXtA-9zM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpfyLb0x6zw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSW2YEjry-s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaGQbdcMXEY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frXw0gtU00Q
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 04, 2010, 04:25:55 PM
nah i never said he was wack....but for me hell never be in the top 10.
whats your list of top 10 producers of all time....





dope joints....top 20

lol, enyce is finally coming around, but slowly.. top 10 within some weeks?  8)
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on May 05, 2010, 01:51:26 PM
nah i never said he was wack....but for me hell never be in the top 10.
whats your list of top 10 producers of all time....





dope joints....top 20

lol, enyce is finally coming around, but slowly.. top 10 within some weeks?  8)

who is your top 10?
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on May 05, 2010, 02:13:41 PM
some more bangers...

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/oHUkq9Tlpxs

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/hCCEQf0SL0U

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/kaFp1M4TWAI

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/h_7EMIXMOgY

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/Bv7ktAKHD-4

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/kRxiqMwhWvE

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/u3koWXFTKws

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/3YKXQJFyOO4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/91Ml5XPArPY

 8)
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 05, 2010, 06:47:46 PM
to begin with....rza, dre, hi-tek, dj khalil, mel-man, dj lethal...in no order as of right now...but they would be in it
and yours?



nah i never said he was wack....but for me hell never be in the top 10.
whats your list of top 10 producers of all time....





dope joints....top 20

lol, enyce is finally coming around, but slowly.. top 10 within some weeks?  8)

who is your top 10?
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: basefunk on May 06, 2010, 05:20:57 AM
unlike some kids who boast of making a 'crank dat' beat in 30 minutes, Alchemist's productions define what we know as raw hardcore hiphop music. He's a complete producer, more like in the lines of Havoc from Mobb deep.

He is so special and great because he makes good rap beats which sound ghetto and street.If you like Pete rock or Rza's beats, you will appreciate alchemist...The 'carry on tradition' kind of producer
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 06, 2010, 06:26:45 AM
he has millions of miles til he gets to rza's level....who might very well be the best producer of all time... as far as what hes accomplished
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Lucifuge on May 06, 2010, 08:07:51 AM
Rza aint make grate beat since 98
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: ikke on May 06, 2010, 09:03:57 AM
Rza aint make grate beat since 98
LMAO
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Paul on May 06, 2010, 11:11:59 AM
Rza aint make grate beat since 98

Its because he lost his grater in 98
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: SCREWFACE on May 06, 2010, 12:01:31 PM
Im the King

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ura-ijtpzvM


poor rugged man  >:(

its not the same beat,this royce iz better like 1000 times...
 
back on topic,or just go 2 listing Prodigy Return of the Mac  8)

i agree royce killed it but the beat is like 99% the same. i like alchemist but he is a damn crook!
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: NillerTheKid on May 06, 2010, 12:32:46 PM
Im the King

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ura-ijtpzvM


poor rugged man  >:(

its not the same beat,this royce iz better like 1000 times...
 
back on topic,or just go 2 listing Prodigy Return of the Mac  8)

i agree royce killed it but the beat is like 99% the same. i like alchemist but he is a damn crook!
it is the same beat, just listen to Lessons
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: spaner on May 06, 2010, 03:34:29 PM
check this out

40 Glocc Ft. Ras Kass, The Alchemist - Flashlight  -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfowvfdhmTQ


The Alchemist - The Chemistry Files DVD unknow song at 2:35  :o :o :o :o   -   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DHhk-4F7IM   
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: CHUCK KNOXXX on May 06, 2010, 04:07:49 PM
Im the King

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ura-ijtpzvM


poor rugged man  >:(

its not the same beat,this royce iz better like 1000 times...
 
back on topic,or just go 2 listing Prodigy Return of the Mac  8)

i agree royce killed it but the beat is like 99% the same. i like alchemist but he is a damn crook!
it is the same beat, just listen to Lessons
http://s0.ilike.com/play#Everlast:Deadly+Assassins:196120:m36622963
i always thought this was even more similar
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: 13th Duke on May 06, 2010, 06:55:25 PM
Quality producer. His name is a stamp of approval in album credits.
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Lucifuge on May 07, 2010, 03:10:10 AM
Rza aint make grate beat since 98
LMAO

thats true...


btw this ALC beat is amazing  8)

Infamous Mobb - Mobb Niggaz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7nsiXTViMk
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Lucifuge on May 07, 2010, 03:25:54 AM
also this shit is crack  8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vFFkE2rEsM
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Big B on May 07, 2010, 07:35:05 AM
^that cd was crack.
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Lucifuge on May 07, 2010, 08:56:11 AM
^that cd was crack.

yes sir..

but Hav murder all beats with that "we dont give a fuck" beat..ill shit 8) 8)
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 08, 2010, 03:43:27 PM
see that shit is false IMO
rza was puttin in work when alchemist was crawlin...lol
they cant even be compared....rza to some is considered the best producer of all time




Rza aint make grate beat since 98

Its because he lost his grater in 98
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: ikke on May 09, 2010, 02:25:50 AM
Rza aint make grate beat since 98
LMAO

thats true...


btw this ALC beat is amazing  8)

Infamous Mobb - Mobb Niggaz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7nsiXTViMk
RZA still had the best beat of 09 (new wu)
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 10, 2010, 05:17:16 PM
you serious?
that was one his worst...i personally wasnt feelin that song but he had some of the dopest songs in that year and every year
what did alc drop that was dope .....recently?




Rza aint make grate beat since 98
LMAO

thats true...


btw this ALC beat is amazing  8)

Infamous Mobb - Mobb Niggaz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7nsiXTViMk
RZA still had the best beat of 09 (new wu)
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Invincible on May 10, 2010, 06:19:14 PM
you serious?
that was one his worst...i personally wasnt feelin that song but he had some of the dopest songs in that year and every year
what did alc drop that was dope .....recently?




Rza aint make grate beat since 98
LMAO

thats true...


btw this ALC beat is amazing  8)

Infamous Mobb - Mobb Niggaz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7nsiXTViMk
RZA still had the best beat of 09 (new wu)

Off the same album, Surgical Gloves

And a track that has already been posted in this thread Inspectah Deck - The Champion.
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Matty on May 10, 2010, 07:07:20 PM
never used to appreciate alchemist all that much till i got a proper car stereo. then i realised why he is a dope hip-hop producer 8)
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 11, 2010, 07:44:44 AM
yeah those were cool....but again rza got him beat any day of the work easily and others...stop overratin him...lol





you serious?
that was one his worst...i personally wasnt feelin that song but he had some of the dopest songs in that year and every year
what did alc drop that was dope .....recently?




Rza aint make grate beat since 98
LMAO

thats true...


btw this ALC beat is amazing  8)

Infamous Mobb - Mobb Niggaz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7nsiXTViMk
RZA still had the best beat of 09 (new wu)

Off the same album, Surgical Gloves

And a track that has already been posted in this thread Inspectah Deck - The Champion.
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Invincible on May 11, 2010, 07:49:22 AM
yeah those were cool....but again rza got him beat any day of the work easily and others...stop overratin him...lol





you serious?
that was one his worst...i personally wasnt feelin that song but he had some of the dopest songs in that year and every year
what did alc drop that was dope .....recently?




Rza aint make grate beat since 98
LMAO

thats true...


btw this ALC beat is amazing  8)

Infamous Mobb - Mobb Niggaz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7nsiXTViMk
RZA still had the best beat of 09 (new wu)

Off the same album, Surgical Gloves

And a track that has already been posted in this thread Inspectah Deck - The Champion.

Theres far more people in here that think he's dope than not. You're the minority in this thread. Is everyone else wrong?
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Jome on May 11, 2010, 07:51:32 AM
enyce, you're out-gunned and overwhelmed, my ninja.
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 11, 2010, 10:40:26 AM
hes dope when he makes dope beats...but top 10...outta mind



enyce, you're out-gunned and overwhelmed, my ninja.
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Paul on May 11, 2010, 12:07:32 PM
see that shit is false IMO
rza was puttin in work when alchemist was crawlin...lol
they cant even be compared....rza to some is considered the best producer of all time




Rza aint make grate beat since 98

Its because he lost his grater in 98


Wtf i was making fun of his use of the english language lol
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: Big B on May 11, 2010, 01:14:30 PM
see that shit is false IMO
rza was puttin in work when alchemist was crawlin...lol
they cant even be compared....rza to some is considered the best producer of all time




Rza aint make grate beat since 98

Its because he lost his grater in 98


Wtf i was making fun of his use of the english language lol
lol. he missed out.
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 12, 2010, 08:51:44 AM
their not wrong but they arent right...lol




yeah those were cool....but again rza got him beat any day of the work easily and others...stop overratin him...lol





you serious?
that was one his worst...i personally wasnt feelin that song but he had some of the dopest songs in that year and every year
what did alc drop that was dope .....recently?




Rza aint make grate beat since 98
LMAO

thats true...


btw this ALC beat is amazing  8)

Infamous Mobb - Mobb Niggaz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7nsiXTViMk
RZA still had the best beat of 09 (new wu)

Off the same album, Surgical Gloves

And a track that has already been posted in this thread Inspectah Deck - The Champion.

Theres far more people in here that think he's dope than not. You're the minority in this thread. Is everyone else wrong?
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: sprite on May 25, 2010, 01:52:05 PM
ALC uses the mpc so basic sometimes and just does it in a fancy way

the fact he keeps it simple makes the beats better
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: 13th Duke on May 25, 2010, 05:21:28 PM
RZA & Alchemist are two completely different beats. Luckily we don't have to choose one or the other and both are dope as fuck so just enjoy the music.
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 25, 2010, 05:35:45 PM
true but some of you make it seem like alc had made some legendary instant classic muzik.....and has 100's of em...rza has but alc hasnt



RZA & Alchemist are two completely different beats. Luckily we don't have to choose one or the other and both are dope as fuck so just enjoy the music.
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: sprite on May 30, 2010, 02:24:57 PM
yea you're kind right... although to be honest I've never been hyped about RZA like others have

but listening back on Alchemist career he is extremely hit or miss, to me anyway

but when he does a good tracks, it's a real standout to me, I play stuff all the time produced by Alchemist

but then I come across other cuts and they're not up to par with his best work, as in way below the par he should be at

but regardless fuck the critic shit, he's definitely the shit, made some great material
Title: Re: aite why is alchemist so special and great???
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on June 01, 2010, 02:54:11 PM
hes cool but one of the best as in the top 10 of all time? nah
he can make dope muzik, but not all the time
1.what hes accomplished
2.what he can make

two different things