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Title: Crooked I Problem
Post by: 2euce 7even on May 20, 2010, 11:03:02 AM
What U Think Is The Reason Why He Canīt Release An Album?
Iīm Sure Majors Know How Much Buzz He Has/Had.
So Why He Kept Gettn Dropped And Screwed?
Whatīs The REAL Reason Behind The Whole Ish?
I Canīt Get It Why One Of The Best Lyricist Outta West Canīt Fix It To Release An Album, He Has Enough Authority And Status
So Whatīs Problem?
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: J.E. on May 20, 2010, 11:23:55 AM
he keeps tryin to find the right time to release it. Maybe even too much. But I'm glad he's releasing something & then there's Slaughterhouse album(s).

I think now the best thing to do would be to wait until lawyers get their jobs done & Slaughterhouse signs with Shady. Maybe even wait until the next Slaughterhouse album is released & release Crooked I album after that...
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: Get It Off Ya Chest on May 20, 2010, 11:49:46 AM
maybe the suits want him to go with a more radio friendly approach.. and he doesn't wanna sell out..

jus a thought
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: GangstaBoogy on May 20, 2010, 11:53:35 AM
Crooked I thinks he's going to do Get Rich or Die Tryin numbers. Dude is delusional.
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: JohnnyL on May 20, 2010, 12:19:44 PM
 IMO, I think he keeps waiting for what he thinks is the right opportunity to put one out.  But what I think has actually happened, is that he's missed several good opportunities to release albums.  You'll notice, he's not scared to release material.  But he always does it in the form of e.p.s or mixtapes.  It seems as though, he's deliberately not releasing an album right now, because he's trying to make sure he drops a classic for his first album.  But I think that line of thinking has hurt him way more than it's helped.  I think he could have had several very solid albums out in the time he's wasted, waiting to drop his classic.
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: acgrundy on May 20, 2010, 12:23:15 PM
Crooked I thinks he's going to do Get Rich or Die Tryin numbers. Dude is delusional.
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: EFFeX on May 20, 2010, 01:11:22 PM
I mean realistically, there's nothing that is holding him back from dropping his album. He could drop it this month if he wanted to.

It's like others have said though, he seems to be waiting for that "perfect" time which keeps coming and going.

My thoughts are that the next "perfect" time is right before or after the next Slaughterhouse album.
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: BOX5 the best poster on this site yell on May 20, 2010, 01:26:21 PM
dope lyricist but i still don't think crooked has put out enough dope concept songs that translate well over original production, most of the verses sound like a freestyle and not an actual song, and i think that's the main reason he never dropped one yell
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: EFFeX on May 20, 2010, 01:37:48 PM
dope lyricist but i still don't think crooked has put out enough dope concept songs that translate well over original production, most of the verses sound like a freestyle and not an actual song, and i think that's the main reason he never dropped one yell

I respectfully disagree.  8)
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: 2euce 7even on May 20, 2010, 02:06:40 PM
dope lyricist but i still don't think crooked has put out enough dope concept songs that translate well over original production, most of the verses sound like a freestyle and not an actual song, and i think that's the main reason he never dropped one yell

I respectfully disagree.  8)

me too, eventho i usedta think da same way box5 put it down ... my comment was a reason a member (dont remember who) put "i aint no battlerapper" "mixtape" on dubcc with all his concept-songs.
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: papa-smurf on May 20, 2010, 06:06:27 PM
crooked i dont beliieve in himself,he wonna sell a million records in first album,in his mind he waiting on the right time.but if u think about it,if he would of just put out records 6 years ago.he probley could of put out a album every year and sold a 100,000 copys each album,or even 50,000,he a be in  a better place then hes in right now,even tho him getting a deal with eminem is big for him.but still.
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: jeanmiche777 on May 20, 2010, 06:20:58 PM
crooked i dont beliieve in himself,he wonna sell a million records in first album,in his mind he waiting on the right time.but if u think about it,if he would of just put out records 6 years ago.he probley could of put out a album every year and sold a 100,000 copys each album,or even 50,000,he a be in  a better place then hes in right now,even tho him getting a deal with eminem is big for him.but still.

He'd be VERY lucky to sell 5k
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: papa-smurf on May 20, 2010, 07:36:15 PM
crooked i dont beliieve in himself,he wonna sell a million records in first album,in his mind he waiting on the right time.but if u think about it,if he would of just put out records 6 years ago.he probley could of put out a album every year and sold a 100,000 copys each album,or even 50,000,he a be in  a better place then hes in right now,even tho him getting a deal with eminem is big for him.but still.

He'd be VERY lucky to sell 5k


crooked i dvd life after death row sold more then 20,000 copys,so if his dvd that couldnt be found no wher ein stores could sell over 20,000 then im pretty positive that his album could sell more then 20,000.
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on May 20, 2010, 09:53:23 PM
dope lyricist but i still don't think crooked has put out enough dope concept songs that translate well over original production, most of the verses sound like a freestyle and not an actual song, and i think that's the main reason he never dropped one yell

I respectfully disagree.  8)

me too, eventho i usedta think da same way box5 put it down ... my comment was a reason a member (dont remember who) put "i aint no battlerapper" "mixtape" on dubcc with all his concept-songs.


http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=238011.0
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 20, 2010, 10:15:07 PM
he probably still wants to have a major label debut but no major will take him. He's scared to drop an independent album and do low numbers.
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: basefunk on May 21, 2010, 01:17:09 AM
maybe the suits want him to go with a more radio friendly approach.. and he doesn't wanna sell out..

jus a thought

co-sign, the suits that dictate what should play on radio want him to sell out,

crooked i must not sell out
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: YoungCrookedI on May 21, 2010, 05:52:26 AM
My thoughts are that the next "perfect" time is right before or after the next Slaughterhouse album.

crooked must drop it before the 2nd slaughterhouse...
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: Action! on May 21, 2010, 06:12:15 AM
I think the reality is he has never had as big as a following as his fans want him to have so while he may have been courted by the labels he doesn't have any real pull because his fanbase isn't huge. 

Additionally, I still question his ability to create a song.  I've heard a couple dope songs by him but by far his best material is over someone else beats.
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: J.E. on May 21, 2010, 07:34:20 AM
http://twitter.com/TheRealCrookedI/status/14427448046


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Dear Crooked I fans, I'm sorry u want me to kiss execs ass to drop an album. I won't. I don't need their money. #Hustler
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: JohnnyL on May 21, 2010, 08:09:26 AM
http://twitter.com/TheRealCrookedI/status/14427448046


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Dear Crooked I fans, I'm sorry u want me to kiss execs ass to drop an album. I won't. I don't need their money. #Hustler

 Is that from Crooked I ?  And if so, I don't think anyone is suggesting he should kiss anyone's ass (at least not in this thread).  Really, after reading every post in this thread, I think everyone who's posted here would like to see him succeed.  But you can't really be a commercially successful musician if you don't sell your music.
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 21, 2010, 11:51:55 AM
http://twitter.com/TheRealCrookedI/status/14427448046


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Dear Crooked I fans, I'm sorry u want me to kiss execs ass to drop an album. I won't. I don't need their money. #Hustler

so he doesn't want to kiss ass to get a record deal and he doesn't want to drop independently. What other choice is there? Face it, the album is never coming out.
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: Gambler on May 21, 2010, 06:21:13 PM

HERE IS THE ANSWER:

1. Crooked I wants a major label deal so he can do big numbers
2. He wants more creative control than the majors allow.
3. He wants the deal structured like an indy deal so he makes more $$$

that is what it boils down to. in this economic climate, no major will risk it.

what ever happens with Shady will determine when or where his solo drops.
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: BIGWORM on May 21, 2010, 08:45:47 PM
Lets just face the facts he is real hip hop/rap and labels don't want that anymore they want one hit wonder throw away artists. Hip Hop/Rap will never move units like it used to unless they are a "chosen artist" by the record label. Until all the true fans of artists start buying albums instead of downloading they got a chance.

Here is what I don't understand about some of the newer west coast artists. They are only know and have fans on the internet. Why don't they just press up hard copies of albums and sell them from there website and receive full profit on there cd's as long as they ship properly everything would work out fine.

They call themselves hustlers but they ain't full time and "there ain't such thangs of halfway hustlers"... They hustle in the booth recording thousands of songs but they get lazy stopping there. If I was an artist that had fans I would fucking personally ship every album ordered CD one by mother fucking one even if I had to go to the post office and do it my god damn self. Techn9ne knows whats up and he's got it on lock.....
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: Jimmy H. on May 21, 2010, 09:12:51 PM
I think Crook needs to go the Tech N9ne route. I mean, that is someone who has their independent game down. He can put out hard-pressed CD's of his solo shit, collabo shit, and artists on his label and move units with it. He's also able to push DVD's and merch. It's because he goes on tour and really fucks with his fans. Yes, the industry sleeps on him but he ain't waiting around for them to co-sign him, he's doing what he can with it. 
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: BIGWORM on May 21, 2010, 10:01:44 PM
^ I was in shock when I saw the MERCH he had at his shows. LOL I bet that half a tour bus trailer on his strange music bus was full. He truly gets down with the fans also. I wouldn't call my self a big fan of his but I respect that dudes hustle to the fullest to go check out his show.

I met three of the members of Slaughter House(joel, royce & budden) at a meet and greet and they were also great with the fans Joel was Jokes, Royce was the humblest and most appreciative. After seeing how cool they were I was like fuck it im gonna drop a nice  bit of fetti on there merch to show love back. I asked Joel and he said that the merch would be at the concert but I guess dude didn't show. But I respect them because they stuck around signing shit for free after the sho and were probably the last three out of the building.

But all in all these guy's all need to step up there hustle and start taking the money from the fans because there willing to pay.
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: Jimmy H. on May 21, 2010, 10:27:33 PM
That's really what it comes down to. As a fan, you remember the people you meet who are cool and down to Earth and you remember the people who act like assholes. And you got to follow the demand too. Some of my favorite rappers through the years have either had absolutely no merchandise outside of their CD's and DVD's or they throw up this overpriced $40 shit that kind of looks suspect. I mean, cats need T-shirts. It's people that love your music so much they're willing to pay you something like $25 to wear a shirt advertising your shit.
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: J.E. on May 22, 2010, 02:58:51 AM
OFFtopic but little something about being down to earth.. I know Joe Budden is one of the most humble rappers EVER. Just yesterday he asked his random twitter followers to come & play kickball with him & his gf. Who else has ever done something like that? Joell also talked about inviting 5-10 random fans to his private BBQ party basically with his family & friends.
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 22, 2010, 01:35:28 PM
OFFtopic but little something about being down to earth.. I know Joe Budden is one of the most humble rappers EVER. Just yesterday he asked his random twitter followers to come & play kickball with him & his gf. Who else has ever done something like that? Joell also talked about inviting 5-10 random fans to his private BBQ party basically with his family & friends.

LMAO.
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: J.E. on May 22, 2010, 02:23:29 PM
OFFtopic but little something about being down to earth.. I know Joe Budden is one of the most humble rappers EVER. Just yesterday he asked his random twitter followers to come & play kickball with him & his gf. Who else has ever done something like that? Joell also talked about inviting 5-10 random fans to his private BBQ party basically with his family & friends.

LMAO.

Go ahead, tell me who else has asked random twitter followers/fans to come meet him. Or even better play kick ball with him. I'm waiting.

The point is.. when Budden is talking about rapping he's never trying to be nothing but the best. So ofc he doesn't seem to be humble.
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: NewYork Pope on May 22, 2010, 02:26:04 PM
Just wait for Shady deal, next SH CD then drop after. Being on Shady will gain some of that Em, Dre crowd, will familiarize mainstream radio station with him more then he can use the "gain" of fans etc.. that to follow for his album.
Title: Re: Crooked I Problem
Post by: Jimmy H. on May 22, 2010, 02:34:42 PM
Just wait for Shady deal, next SH CD then drop after. Being on Shady will gain some of that Em, Dre crowd, will familiarize mainstream radio station with him more then he can use the "gain" of fans etc.. that to follow for his album.
Well, it's wait and see. I mean the deal is not official for one. Signing to a label doesn't automatically mean your album will come out. And just because you're on Shady does not mean Dre will produce tracks for you. We'll see what kind of buzz they get when/if the deal is announced.