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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Meho on June 03, 2010, 12:39:14 PM
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http://www.dubcnn.com/media/audio/eminem-wontbackdown/
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Ugh I hate that fuckin site. Every time I listen to a song I can hear people talking. Sounds dope tho so I'll just download it.
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oh shit
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yeah, sold out. ::)
this is fucking ill. 8)
i always digged rap songs over Rock sounding beats like this; his flow is dope.
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Yeah this is hype, gym/running music. Pink really works on this track. And I was getting tired of Khalil beats but this is banging, I wonder if Dre mixed it or anything.
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Pink does work on it. Beat is pretty good. After 1 listen, haven't really formed a solid opinion on this though. Hm....
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Pink does work on it. Beat is pretty good. After 1 listen, haven't really formed a solid opinion on this though. Hm....
Agreed. Nice hook on it. Beat is nice, sweet drums. I think that its a song that has to take time to grow on me. Thanks
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Average. Beats kinda boring. Just added some big drums and guitar sounds and think it sounds epic but it just sounds simple.
Eminem is alright but its just some random lyrics. Dunno the comedy value of his old lyrics or the flow just isn't there. Pinks alright but its not like she has much to do and its any standard rock chorus.
I mean wtf is 'shake your ass like a donkey with parkinsons'
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+1 for uppin' the track, Meho. I haven't really formed much of an opinion on it yet. For what it's worth, I think Pink sounds fine on here. If there's any problems with the song, I don't think any of it is her. I think I need to listen to it a few more times, before I'll have anything else to say about it.
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Ehh,I think DJ Khalil might be the most over rated producer Ive ever seen on the inter web lately.Not that i dislike him but his beats dont seem to be that great.
Beat is ehh,not feeling the chorus at all,the pink feature seems pointless,I would have much preferred a male vocalist.When a collabo like this happens their should be a reason behind it,theirs no real reason that pink had to be on this song its just a generic chorus with pink singing it.Someone else should ahve been used.
Eminems kind of scattered on the song a bit,no real focus.And that turning down trick has been used on songs before its pointless.
Another hugely dissapointing song from em.im no longer anticipating this album as much as I was after not afraid and this.
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haaawt !! I like this !
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Not Khalil's best beat, Hook is lame (might grow on me though).
Em is meh.
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Not a Khalil production:
Just a heads up my good friend Rahki got his first Major placement on the New Eminem album that is coming out June 22nd. He produced track 4 with Pink
Rahki is signed to DJ Khalil and has been on his production grind ever since he moved out here from Minneapolis Mn
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This isn't produced by DJ Khalil, it's produced by one of the producers signed to DJ Khalil, Rahki.
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yeah, sold out. ::)
this is fucking ill. 8)
i always digged rap songs over Rock sounding beats like this; his flow is dope.
This feature to me is sell out.Pink is being used for her name,nothing more.This collabo was pointless,she just sung a generic hook that anybody could have done.I can picture a lot of other people doing the chorus,and doing it better.When a collabo happens like this their should be a point.Like when Jay worked with alicia keys on empire state of mind,their was a point I couldnt imagine anybody else being on that song.But this?this was pointless and anybody could have done this hook.
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Dont tell me that Pink is big name in industry 2day? :o :o :o
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yeah, sold out. ::)
this is fucking ill. 8)
i always digged rap songs over Rock sounding beats like this; his flow is dope.
This feature to me is sell out.Pink is being used for her name,nothing more.This collabo was pointless,she just sung a generic hook that anybody could have done.I can picture a lot of other people doing the chorus,and doing it better.When a collabo happens like this their should be a point.Like when Jay worked with alicia keys on empire state of mind,their was a point I couldnt imagine anybody else being on that song.But this?this was pointless and anybody could have done this hook.
on point here. this is the first em song ive liked in many many years, and pink didnt ruin the song which is good. but what the hell did she add to it other than a name? NOTHING. its a complete money grabber collab but its still a good song, because pink doesnt really do anything in it. now THAT would have ruined it
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awful....wow... >:(
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wierd track.beat is hard non commercial...Grower
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Its pretty dope, first listen right now. Em sounds hungry on it. The hook doesnt do much for me.
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And more shots at mariah and nick cannon.....WOW.Pathetic.
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not bad
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And more shots at mariah and nick cannon.....WOW.Pathetic.
what lines, because i didnt catch it
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bitch am I the reason that your boyfriend stopped rapping?
Does a bird chirp?
Does lil wayne slurp syrup till he burps?
And does a word search get circles wrapped around it like you do when I come through Id like you to remind yourself of what the fuck I can do?
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Wheres the fuckin' hip-hop!?
This is made for MTV award shows 'n' shit, so he can perform on stage with that Pink cunt.
Wack.
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You know what - it's ok ;D
Will get a lot of airplay in the UK. More like the caliber of music that made him big..just lacking his classic snap to the lyrics.
Better than what I've been hearing lately, I honestly thought Em had nothing more to give music wise.
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Dunno track seems to be missing something? Pink sounds dope on the hook so no problem there, I just expected something bigger, and with more focus. Tracks cool though, think I'ma have to listen to it a bit more. Is this version mixed/mastered? Ems vocals sound like they could do with a touch up, same with the beat...
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track is pretty cool but eminem sounds out of place, like a random freestyle on somebody elses beat. not a cohesive joint. also, this sounds like a lot like the relapse em, only more angry and less goofy.
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I can run with this. It will be pretty cool to hear songs like this performed live.
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its ok - but the hook doesnt match the verses, and that donkey/parkinsons line was corny as hell
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Few spins in it grows on you alot. 2 songs in and am hyped alot now for this album roll on the 21st
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Different, i like it....And i would guess Khalil had some involvment in the track
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track is pretty cool but eminem sounds out of place, like a random freestyle on somebody elses beat. not a cohesive joint. also, this sounds like a lot like the relapse em, only more angry and less goofy.
Yeah this...
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yes....these are jacked...
(Hook)
You can sound the alarm, you can call out your guards
You can fence in your yard, you can pull all the cards
But I won't back down, oh no I won't back down, oh no
(Verse 1)
Cadillacs appeals, Coupe Deville's
Brain dead rims, yeah stupid wheels
Girl I'm too for real, lose your tooth and nails
Try to fight it, try to deny it, stupid you will feel
What I do, I do at will
Shooting from the hip, yeah boy I shoot to kill
Half a breath left on my death bed
Screaming F that, yeah super ill
Baby what the deal, we can chill
Split a half a pill and a happy meal
f**k a steak slut, I'll cut my toes off
And step on the receipt before I foot the bill
Listen garden tool, don't make me introduce you to my power tool
You know the f**king drill
How you douche bags feel knowing you're disposable?
Summer's eve massingale
Shady's got the mass appeal, baby crank the s**t
Cause it's your god damned jam
You said you wanted your punchlines a little more compact
Well shorty I'm that man
These other cats ain't metaphorically where I'm at man
I gave Bruce Wayne a valium
And said settle your f**king ass down, I'm ready for combat man
Get it, calm Batman? Nah, ain't nobody who's as bomb and as
Nuts, lines are like mom's cat scans
Cause they f**king go ba-na-nas
Honey I applaud that ass, swear to god man
These mobs can't dance, ma show 'em how it's done
Spaz like a god damn Taz, yeah
(Hook)
You can sound the alarm, you can call out your guards
You can fence in your yard, you can pull all the cards
But I won't back down, oh no I won't back down, oh no
(Verse 2)
Girl shake that ass like a donkey with parkinsons
Make like Michael J Fox in ya drawers playing with an etcha-sketch
Bet ya that you'll never guess who's knockin' at your doors
People hit the floors, yeah tonight ladies you gon' get divorced
Girl forget remorse, Imma hit you broads with
Chris' force like you pissed him off
Talented with the tongue motherf**ker, you ain't got a lick in yours
Hittin' licks, like I'm robbin' liquor stores
Making cash registers s**t their drawers
Think you spit the rawest?
I'm an uncooked slab of beef laying on your kitchen floor
Otherwords, I'm off the meat rack, bring the beat back
Bring the two extension cords
Imma measure my d*ck, s**t I need six inches more
f**k my d*ck's big b**ch, need I remind you
That I don't need the f**king swine flu to be a sick pig
You're addicted, I'm dope, I'm the longest needle around here
Need a fix oc? I'm the big shot, get it d*ck snots?
You're just small boats, little pricks
Girl you think that other prick's hot?
I'll drink gasoline and eat a lit match
Before I sit back and let him get hot
Better call the cops on him quick fast
Shady's right back on your b**ch ass
White trash with a half a six pack in his hatchback
Trailer hitch ? back, quick dispatch
(Hook)
You can sound the alarm, you can call out your guards
You can fence in your yard, you can pull all the cards
But I won't back down, oh no I won't back down, oh no
(Verse 3)
b**ch am I the reason that your boyfriend stopped rappin'?
Does a bird chirp? Lil' Wayne slurps syrup til he burps
And smokes purp?
Does a word search get circles wrapped around it
like you do when I come through, I'd like you to remind yourself
Of what the f**k I can do when I'm on the mic
Oh you're the kinda girl that I can take a liking to
Psych I'm spiking you, like a football
Been this way since I stood a foot tall
You're a good catch, with a s**tty spouse
Got a pretty mouth and a good jaw
Gimme good brain, watch the woodgrain
Don't want no cum-stain, b**ch you listening?
Try to turn me down, slut I'm talking to you
Turn me back up, are you insane
Try to talk over me in the car, shut the f**k up while my s**t's playing
I'm a s**t stain on the underwear of life
What's the saying? when there's thunder then there's light-ening
And they say that it never strikes twice in the same place
Then how the f**k have I been hit six times
On three different locations on four seperate occasions?
And you can bet your stinking ass
That I've come to smash everything in my path
Fork was in the road, took the psycho path
Poison Ivy wouldn't have me thinking rash
So hit the dance floor cutie, while I do my duty
On this microphone, shake your booty shorty
I'm the s**t, why you think Proof used to call me dudey?
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Those lyrics are ass.I mean come on look at this shit.
Baby what the deal, we can chill
Split a half a pill and a happy meal
f**k a steak slut, I'll cut my toes off
Word?Talkking about doing pills even though youve made a huge deal of your sobriety?Then giving valium to batman?
Girl shake that ass like a donkey with parkinsons
Terrible.
I'm a s**t stain on the underwear of life
Is this a lil wayne song?
b**ch am I the reason that your boyfriend stopped rappin'?
Does a bird chirp? Lil' Wayne slurps syrup til he burps
Talking about mariah and nick again?
Look,i dont know how anyone can feel this shit.Its the same shit as relapse.He fooled us all blaming relapse on the pills then disowning the album and promising fans something else.These lyrics are the same as something on relapse.And whats with him using the same tone and flow on every fucking song now?SMH,this is shaping up to be an awful album.I hope he proves me wrong.but not good so far.
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This is cool, but i have to say it does say thrown together. Random raps, and then a random Pink hook. I think the beat is dope though, whether Khalil had involvement or not :)
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i'm down with the beat, i don't see where those complaints are coming from, from you guys.
after a few listens, he doesn't have a direction or even a topic for that matter lol; like somebody else said, it sounds like a freestyle.
his flow is still unreal & the accent is gone & like i said, the beat is pretty ill, so that adds a little to bump it more.
i can bump, but it's not anything spectacular; i'm still hyped for the album though. 8)
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Damn the lyrics look wack written down, doesn't do any justice to his flow
"I gave Bruce Wayne a valium
And said settle your f**king ass down, I'm ready for combat man"
That's some pretty ill word play though, went over my head the first time I read it.
I don't think that lines directed at Mariah though, it seems like its just a line saying hes so dope that he makes people quit rapping
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man this is pop rap keep it networth my equal,drums is cool beat is ight but song does nothing for me yell
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beat is nice, but my ears say the pink experiment failed.
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Wheres the fuckin' hip-hop!?
This is made for MTV award shows 'n' shit, so he can perform on stage with that Pink cunt.
Wack.
exactly my equal all these so called hip hop icon's are going way pop, this shit is boring and i'm a fan of this equal yell
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^^^ How the fuck is this pop?
Cos its got some guitars? Cos its got Pink singing the hook?
Ems spitting his ass off on this, that flow and the shit he's talking bout doesn't scream pop to me, the drums are too boom bap for it to be pop, I haven't heard chopped up electric guitars on a pop single in a long ass time. Yeah Pinks on the hook, but if that was a no name singer it wouldn't be poppy at all.
This isn't the dopest song out, and to be honest I was hoping for something a lot more epic, but to call it Pop is fucking ridiculous. Gucci Mane, Wayne, Game, Snoop, Nelly, they make pop singles, aimed for the charts with shit that sounds like the last top 10 single. This isn't in that category.
Oh wait, I forgot, it's Eminem feat. Pink, it has to be pop ::)
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^^^ How the fuck is this pop?
Cos its got some guitars? Cos its got Pink singing the hook?
Ems spitting his ass off on this, that flow and the shit he's talking bout doesn't scream pop to me, the drums are too boom bap for it to be pop, I haven't heard chopped up electric guitars on a pop single in a long ass time. Yeah Pinks on the hook, but if that was a no name singer it wouldn't be poppy at all.
This isn't the dopest song out, and to be honest I was hoping for something a lot more epic, but to call it Pop is fucking ridiculous. Gucci Mane, Wayne, Game, Snoop, Nelly, they make pop singles, aimed for the charts with shit that sounds like the last top 10 single. This isn't in that category.
Oh wait, I forgot, it's Eminem feat. Pink, it has to be pop ::)
beat is for a pop crowd,pop ass lyrics,pinks hook is pop, are you fucc'n serious my equal? this shit was not made for no hip hop muthafuccas, shit is boring, i ain't mad at him for making it cause em always made pop shit,some of it good some bad, he get's you caught up in the actual flow which is good,but the lyrics and song in actuality is shit and it's pop yell
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^^^ How the fuck is this pop?
Cos its got some guitars? Cos its got Pink singing the hook?
Ems spitting his ass off on this, that flow and the shit he's talking bout doesn't scream pop to me, the drums are too boom bap for it to be pop, I haven't heard chopped up electric guitars on a pop single in a long ass time. Yeah Pinks on the hook, but if that was a no name singer it wouldn't be poppy at all.
This isn't the dopest song out, and to be honest I was hoping for something a lot more epic, but to call it Pop is fucking ridiculous. Gucci Mane, Wayne, Game, Snoop, Nelly, they make pop singles, aimed for the charts with shit that sounds like the last top 10 single. This isn't in that category.
Oh wait, I forgot, it's Eminem feat. Pink, it has to be pop ::)
wait you call gucci etc out for pop,yet you don't think em got them white pop fans in mind with this song hahahaha you are being a bill walton my equal, and for the record christina ag had premo doing her beats with "boom-bap" drums and guess what? it was pop, madonna's justify my love had boom bap p.e. drums guess what? pop? man stop acting like this equal don't make pop shit, it makes him chipper jones and that's his bottom line ain't mad at that,but shit is mad fluffy yell
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i'm failing to see the pop here.
if Eminem said this was a freestyle there would be no complaints, people would say he's flowing his ass off, etc, etc.
but it's an album song & he's not really spitting about anything so it's a problem; fair enough, i guess it is a problem; but be honest, if this was the extended version of that "Despicable" freestyle, it'd be "fire".
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I dunno bro I just don't see it aye. When I think of Pop I think of shit like Justin Beiber, B.E.P., Akon, most hip hop club songs, Britney etc
In my mind this beat just doesn't resonate pop, his other 1st singles for sure they were marketed straight at the pop crowd with bouncy beats, catchy hooks etc, I aint putting that past Em. But to me this is some straight up rap shit with a rockier beat.
I think we got different definitions of pop so sall good homie, stay up
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Honestly, some of y'all shouldn't even comment because you know you don't like Eminem and pretty much never have liked Eminem.
1. Eminem's flow is insane.
2. Word play is dope - better than most of the game but not shocking
3. Content was ehhish. I've heard worse. Definitely heard better.
Nothing wrong with the pink feature or the beat. It does sound like Eminem went up to a mic with a live band and they did it in one take except the chorus which I honestly like.
I have to see how this fits into the album.
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I have to see how this fits into the album.
true that.
but also, this is like the complete opposite of "Not Afraid". :P
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Lol. That "donkey with Parkinson's" line is my favorite line in the song. Still don't know if I like the overall song or not, though. I mean, it's not terrible. And I think Pink worked out fine on the track. But between this and "Not Afraid," I'm still liking "Not Afraid" way better. But maybe the song will grow on me.
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Damn the lyrics look wack written down, doesn't do any justice to his flow
"I gave Bruce Wayne a valium
And said settle your f**king ass down, I'm ready for combat man"
That's some pretty ill word play though, went over my head the first time I read it.
I don't think that lines directed at Mariah though, it seems like its just a line saying hes so dope that he makes people quit rapping
Isn't it funny he said ''Relapse CD was ehh'' while the only difference between Relapse songs and this crap is there is no accent, actually I like Relapse, the beats were hot, fuck a Khalil.
*says with raspy Nas accent: ''Em, you a kid, what you rap about?''*
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Damn the lyrics look wack written down, doesn't do any justice to his flow
"I gave Bruce Wayne a valium
And said settle your f**king ass down, I'm ready for combat man"
That's some pretty ill word play though, went over my head the first time I read it.
I don't think that lines directed at Mariah though, it seems like its just a line saying hes so dope that he makes people quit rapping
Isn't it funny he said ''Relapse CD was ehh'' while the only difference between Relapse songs and this crap is there is no accent, actually I like Relapse, the beats were hot, fuck a Khalil.
*says with raspy Nas accent: ''Em, you a kid, what you rap about?''*
I never had a problem with Relapse but for real this is Relapse content, minus the accent, minus the dope beats. His flow is still butter though
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lol @ nobody being able to dispute what Ive said about the song.Shit is wack kids,its just reality.
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lol @ nobody being able to dispute what Ive said about the song.Shit is wack kids,its just reality.
Because you stated you're opinion people are supposed to dispute you? So, you're just looking for someone to argue with? You're coming off pretty retarded right now/
Let's see if I recall your post,
1) DJ Khalil is over rated on the internet
2) The beat is wack
3) The guest feature is pointless
4) Eminem is not focused
1) It's the internet, who isn't overrated?
I'm a fan of his work because
A) it's often completely original, no samples
B) live instrumentation
Who sounds like Khalil?
2) The beat is wack
I'm not sure what people are expecting from the producers and production. I've been hearing this a lot lately directed towards artists that people don't like. Drake gets a lot and Eminem has too. What exactly is dope production? Is it complex with lots of sounds?
3) There's no real reason to ever have a guest feature. There's no reason to do anything. He felt she should be there and so she was.
4) What do you mean?
Basically, you have these expectations of an artist and if they're not meet you become disappointed. It's understandable. I feel that way too sometimes but you got to let go. You're as much of an authority as me which means nothing.
Like I said some cats shouldn't bother because they already know deep down inside they don't like Eminem or his music. A lot of it is a matter of opinion so
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People were defending the choice of pink by saying it was probably a track that needed to be made together or it would sound great.But guess what,its a generic hook that anybody could have done.The pink feature was to spur attention and sales.And while beats are always subjective,the lyrics are trash and that cant be disputed.The lyrics sound exactly like something from relapse and hes talking about doing pills even though the previous song not afraid he basically trashed relapse and said he wouldnt ever do that to his fans again.But this isnt even as good as a relapse song.And I own all of eminems albums so that comment is just lame.This is all stuff that isnt an opinon these are all facts that cant be disputed really.
A few months from now all these people saying this song is good are going to trash it.It was the exact same way with relapse.
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But I mean whatever,if people want to force themselves to enjoy this steaming pile of shit,then thats their right.Hopefully the album is great and the two leaked songs are the worst songs on the album.I actually really hope the album is great.I wont comment any further,my karma will get lowered another 30 points from this thread alone lol. 8)
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But I mean whatever,if people want to force themselves to enjoy this steaming pile of shit,then thats their right.Hopefully the album is great and the two leaked songs are the worst songs on the album.I actually really hope the album is great.I wont comment any further,my karma will get lowered another 30 points from this thread alone lol. 8)
My issue with your posts isn't really your analysis or what you like/dislike about the song but it's the authoritative nature you take. This post I quoted is a great example. You're telling everyone that enjoys it that they're forcing themselves to like it. Really? Don't be such a dick.
I don't know your history with Eminem's music. All I know is based on the "I'm right and if you don't agree with me, you're wrong" stance you take makes you come off as hater.
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I just have my opinion and its mine and its what I feel strongly about.Im confident and compassionate about my stances.I always respect those who are similar.I may come off like a dick sometimes,but well,I am a dick sometimes.Its who I am,and Im exactly the same way in real life.I love to debate and I dont really care what anyone thinks of me,I cant be bothered.I enjoy your posts more then 90 percent of the rest of the board because you know what you like and you arent afraid to say it.I cant change who I am,it may put some people off but I could give a fuck.And so,i have people that hate me.Maybe thats why i like Joe budden,were both dicks and we dont care lol.
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More i listinen more i like it. Nothing mind blowing,but crossover record. knockin hard 8)..No one can fuckin with him flow wise..goddamn
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HOT!!
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I just have my opinion and its mine and its what I feel strongly about.Im confident and compassionate about my stances.I always respect those who are similar.I may come off like a dick sometimes,but well,I am a dick sometimes.Its who I am,and Im exactly the same way in real life.I love to debate and I dont really care what anyone thinks of me,I cant be bothered.I enjoy your posts more then 90 percent of the rest of the board because you know what you like and you arent afraid to say it.I cant change who I am,it may put some people off but I could give a fuck.And so,i have people that hate me.Maybe thats why i like Joe budden,were both dicks and we dont care lol.
Word is bond then.
Do ya thing.
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not as bad as I tought before...
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Its ok, ems word play crazy as always.
"i dont have to have swine flu to be a sick pig" ha!
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I just have my opinion and its mine and its what I feel strongly about.Im confident and compassionate about my stances.I always respect those who are similar.I may come off like a dick sometimes,but well,I am a dick sometimes.Its who I am,and Im exactly the same way in real life.I love to debate and I dont really care what anyone thinks of me,I cant be bothered.I enjoy your posts more then 90 percent of the rest of the board because you know what you like and you arent afraid to say it.I cant change who I am,it may put some people off but I could give a fuck.And so,i have people that hate me.Maybe thats why i like Joe budden,were both dicks and we dont care lol.
lol ya dick
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I just have my opinion and its mine and its what I feel strongly about.Im confident and compassionate about my stances.I always respect those who are similar.I may come off like a dick sometimes,but well,I am a dick sometimes.Its who I am,and Im exactly the same way in real life.I love to debate and I dont really care what anyone thinks of me,I cant be bothered.I enjoy your posts more then 90 percent of the rest of the board because you know what you like and you arent afraid to say it.I cant change who I am,it may put some people off but I could give a fuck.And so,i have people that hate me.Maybe thats why i like Joe budden,were both dicks and we dont care lol.
ok, you didnt like it, but you dont have to make 100 posts about it, cause you do start to sound a bit like hater you know...
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And Like I said,I dont give a fuck.Call me a hater or whatever makes you feel better.
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Not sure how to take this one. I'm buzzed right now and it definitely sounds like something I could bump but then again its random as hell and I'll have to listen to it sober to make my final opinion. But either way its better than that Not Afraid song. At least it has the nice beat going for it and entertaining lyrics. Not Afraid is just a failed attempt to be inspirational.
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ok song, not great.
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Dont tell me that Pink is big name in industry 2day? :o :o :o
Her album is coming out soon.
Probably.
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Dont tell me that Pink is big name in industry 2day? :o :o :o
Her album is coming out soon.
Probably.
so what. so as Game and DPG ::) ::) nonsense... Pink aint relevent no more,if she ever be
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it's not a keeper
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f**k a steak slut, I'll cut my toes off
And step on the receipt before I foot the bill
What didn't you get about that? no this song has no particular direction, it's just numerous slick punchlines over an intense flow, after reading how this song was incredibly wack, I got to say I really like this ;D
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re-up please. cant find a valid link anywhere.
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re-up please. cant find a valid link anywhere.
http://www.mediafire.com/?zmmbmelmda0
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the beat is dope, pink came weak, em came weak fucks wrong with you niggaz. clean your ears out
this shit is a 5 out of 10 at best something is really wrong with these eminem fans, really you niggaz are sitting here and actually saying this is dope ? if jay z drop this shit all you niggaz would be here saying this is wack get a motherfucking reality check son
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^1. Jay-Z doesn't spit with lyrics like that; some of you are acting surprised to hear Eminem say some of things he said. :laugh:
2. if Jay-Z spit this song, it would be 10 mintues long, he would rap it slow & use his "awwwhhh" ad-lib in between every line. ;)
like i said, if this was titled as a "freestyle", there would be zero complaints.
& like Action! said, i gotta hear how it mixes with the album.
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^1. Jay-Z doesn't spit with lyrics like that; some of you are acting surprised to hear Eminem say some of things he said. :laugh:
2. if Jay-Z spit this song, it would be 10 mintues long, he would rap it slow & use his "awwwhhh" ad-lib in between every line. ;)
like i said, if this was titled as a "freestyle", there would be zero complaints.
& like Action! said, i gotta hear how it mixes with the album.
but it's not a freestyle it's an actual song!!!!! and you got to look at it as such it's all about nothing and made to satisfy his pop fan base, hell i'll even go as far as say he's using his ill flow as a gimicc, it makes people say ooh you hear how he said that! but when you listen close you like man he just said a whole bunch of bullshit, as a freestyle it works but overall it's just ight and well be overated because of who the artist is yell
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^i fail to see the pop in a hard spitting song, with "fuck this" & "fuck that" & "fuck" & a hard rock-type beat.
i was listening to the radio today & they were like "OH, WE GOT SOME NEW EMINEM FOR YOU, FEATURING PINK!" & more than half the song had to be edited because of cursing, it's not even radio freindly.
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Love it, but will probably never going to listen to it again, solely because of the Feat. Pink in the title.
call it immature but no way, i hate this bitch
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The lyrics sound as if they were written by a 3rd grader. Too corny and simple.
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Love it, but will probably never going to listen to it again, solely because of the Feat. Pink in the title.
call it immature but no way, i hate this bitch
its immature as hell cmon dude. i was hating hard on this song before i even heard it but really its not that bad, nothing special, but pink actually has a good hook + the beat is craazy. and i dont even check for em. hell i havent liked anything since mmlp. i think all his records after that are complete trash.
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Love it, but will probably never going to listen to it again, solely because of the Feat. Pink in the title.
call it immature but no way, i hate this bitch
its immature as hell cmon dude. i was hating hard on this song before i even heard it but really its not that bad, nothing special, but pink actually has a good hook + the beat is craazy. and i dont even check for em. hell i havent liked anything since mmlp. i think all his records after that are complete trash.
You thought lose yourself was trash?
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Love it, but will probably never going to listen to it again, solely because of the Feat. Pink in the title.
call it immature but no way, i hate this bitch
its immature as hell cmon dude. i was hating hard on this song before i even heard it but really its not that bad, nothing special, but pink actually has a good hook + the beat is craazy. and i dont even check for em. hell i havent liked anything since mmlp. i think all his records after that are complete trash.
You thought lose yourself was trash?
when i say records i mean his lps. he had some good songs after that tho but i hated his lps so im always surprised to hear an ok single
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it was cool, but i wasnt blown away....i mean em came correct i thought, how anyone can front on dudes flow is crazy...and lyrically it was typical em, which is why it was just cool for me, because it had a sense of 'same ol, heard it before' to it....pink was ok, i feel like it coulda been any female vocalist on there...
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Love it, but will probably never going to listen to it again, solely because of the Feat. Pink in the title.
call it immature but no way, i hate this bitch
hell i havent liked anything since mmlp. i think all his records after that are complete trash.
you don't think that makes your opinion a little invalid? lol.
The Eminem Show had plenty of great music on it.
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maybe em show does have some great music on it but its a shit album, eminem fans are like nas fans. they just cant admit so much of their music is trash
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maybe em show does have some great music on it but its a shit album, eminem fans are like nas fans. they just cant admit so much of their music is trash
it's not just Nas fans, it's fans of everybody.
tell me who your favorite rapper is & i'm sure that you let more shit slide with him than you would other rappers.
for me, if Eminem, Joe Budden or Xzibit make an average song (like this Em song), i'm likely going to like it more than your average fan; just how people on this board said Jay-Z's verse on Drake's "Light Up" was amazing.
i thought it was pretty weak, but if you're a giant Jay-Z fan, you're probably going to be feeling it more.
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maybe em show does have some great music on it but its a shit album, eminem fans are like nas fans. they just cant admit so much of their music is trash
it's not just Nas fans, it's fans of everybody.
tell me who your favorite rapper is & i'm sure that you let more shit slide with him than you would other rappers.
for me, if Eminem, Joe Budden or Xzibit make an average song (like this Em song), i'm likely going to like it more than your average fan; just how people on this board said Jay-Z's verse on Drake's "Light Up" was amazing.
i thought it was pretty weak, but if you're a giant Jay-Z fan, you're probably going to be feeling it more.
Nah, when a rapper you like comes with weak shit you should critique it even more. If you think about it the fan reaction is the only way they're going to know whether their music is good or not. IE, Eminem realized people hated the accent, but they liked Beautiful, so he went out and tried to make a song like Beautiful (Not Afraid). I try to play my part in that to put em back on the right track.
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maybe em show does have some great music on it but its a shit album, eminem fans are like nas fans. they just cant admit so much of their music is trash
it's not just Nas fans, it's fans of everybody.
tell me who your favorite rapper is & i'm sure that you let more shit slide with him than you would other rappers.
for me, if Eminem, Joe Budden or Xzibit make an average song (like this Em song), i'm likely going to like it more than your average fan; just how people on this board said Jay-Z's verse on Drake's "Light Up" was amazing.
i thought it was pretty weak, but if you're a giant Jay-Z fan, you're probably going to be feeling it more.
my fav rapper is ghosftace, one of the reasons is because he has no bad albums. royce is one of my favourites and i think bar exam 3 had like 5 good songs, and was a complete mess. i also dont think royce actually has any great albums, there are a bunch of shit tracks on all of them. some people just cant look objectively and get their judgement clouded because they love the rapper so much. not me tho and not for a lot of others
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on the whole im feeling this, some corny lines in there, but the production, it just hits you, i cant deny it ... still could care less about release though.. :/
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maybe em show does have some great music on it but its a shit album, eminem fans are like nas fans. they just cant admit so much of their music is trash
it's not just Nas fans, it's fans of everybody.
tell me who your favorite rapper is & i'm sure that you let more shit slide with him than you would other rappers.
for me, if Eminem, Joe Budden or Xzibit make an average song (like this Em song), i'm likely going to like it more than your average fan; just how people on this board said Jay-Z's verse on Drake's "Light Up" was amazing.
i thought it was pretty weak, but if you're a giant Jay-Z fan, you're probably going to be feeling it more.
my fav rapper is ghosftace, one of the reasons is because he has no bad albums. royce is one of my favourites and i think bar exam 3 had like 5 good songs, and was a complete mess. i also dont think royce actually has any great albums, there are a bunch of shit tracks on all of them. some people just cant look objectively and get their judgement clouded because they love the rapper so much. not me tho and not for a lot of others
word yo
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maybe em show does have some great music on it but its a shit album, eminem fans are like nas fans. they just cant admit so much of their music is trash
it's not just Nas fans, it's fans of everybody.
tell me who your favorite rapper is & i'm sure that you let more shit slide with him than you would other rappers.
for me, if Eminem, Joe Budden or Xzibit make an average song (like this Em song), i'm likely going to like it more than your average fan; just how people on this board said Jay-Z's verse on Drake's "Light Up" was amazing.
i thought it was pretty weak, but if you're a giant Jay-Z fan, you're probably going to be feeling it more.
Nah, when a rapper you like comes with weak shit you should critique it even more. If you think about it the fan reaction is the only way they're going to know whether their music is good or not. IE, Eminem realized people hated the accent, but they liked Beautiful, so he went out and tried to make a song like Beautiful (Not Afraid). I try to play my part in that to put em back on the right track.
i do that with Chamillionaire all the time.
but also, i gave "Good Morning" a pass while others really hated that song; so i guess it works both ways.
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Im a huge em fan but this new shit is trash to me.But anyone who thinks em show is trash probably just isnt a fan of eminem because no way in hell is that album trash.
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I swear in the many years i've been on this board, em has to be the most picked apart artist....when it comes to his lines, flow, accent, beats...you name it. Dude is serisoulsy under a microscope all the time.
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I swear in the many years i've been on this board, em has to be the most picked apart artist....when it comes to his lines, flow, accent, beats...you name it. Dude is serisoulsy under a microscope all the time.
i can understand that though.
he's considered one of, if not, the greatest of all time.
these fans of other great artists have to hear how this guy is better than their favorite & that just makes them want to find flaws with him.
not even trying to sound like i'm five, but race too; let's be honest, black people are proud people.
they don't want to hear that a major part of today's culture has been taken over & dominated by a white guy.
sure, millions of black people give Eminem props, but you start saying he's the best & there "whoa, hold up; better than Nas? better than Jay?".
& then of course you got people who just don't like Eminem, his style, his message & then it's no surprise he's dropped weaker music as he's gone into his career.
so you add all of those factors up & yeah, Eminem is forced under the microscope because of his place in the rap game.
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^i fail to see the pop in a hard spitting song, with "fuck this" & "fuck that" & "fuck" & a hard rock-type beat.
i was listening to the radio today & they were like "OH, WE GOT SOME NEW EMINEM FOR YOU, FEATURING PINK!" & more than half the song had to be edited because of cursing, it's not even radio freindly.
if you are a hot artist and well known and they get a new joint from you they are gonna play it, they been doing that since snoop when they first got a copy of whats my name they played that shit bacc to bacc and they only had the uncensored version yell
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This board is hard to please. To me this beat is IMMENSE, Eminems flow is insane - rides the beat hard and Pink comes correct. To me this sounds like a massive crossover hit. Pop? Maybe, but a hell of a lot better than a lot of previous "pop" Eminem singles. Shit ROCKS. Play this loud a couple of times and I dare you to not knock your head.
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Love it, but will probably never going to listen to it again, solely because of the Feat. Pink in the title.
call it immature but no way, i hate this bitch
hell i havent liked anything since mmlp. i think all his records after that are complete trash.
you don't think that makes your opinion a little invalid? lol.
The Eminem Show had plenty of great music on it.
why would it be invalid if it's an opinion?
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Love it, but will probably never going to listen to it again, solely because of the Feat. Pink in the title.
call it immature but no way, i hate this bitch
hell i havent liked anything since mmlp. i think all his records after that are complete trash.
you don't think that makes your opinion a little invalid? lol.
The Eminem Show had plenty of great music on it.
why would it be invalid if it's an opinion?
because it seems pretty biased he doesn't care for Eminem lol.
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i love old eminem, sorry but i just think hes over-rated as fuck. even the stuff i like doesnt stand up other classic hip-hop. thats just my opinion, people fawn over eminem way too much just because he has sick multis and flow. hes good but if he didnt get picked up by dre there wouldnt be such a huge popularity around him.
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I dont like it.. its not musical at all
he fights with the BEAT all song long.. hes off beat the whole entire time like Ras Kass, or Saafir i actually have to sit there and force myself to listen..
i like those Khalil drums, just wish em wouldve tooken a different approach.
just my non biased opinion, comin from a guy who HATED relapse and admittingly enough, em said it wasnt that good but the groupies still loved it. crazy. bishop lamont does something similiar and fans hated that em fans or not lol em's the great white hype lol
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I'm actually a fan of a lot of rap/pop collabos but not feelin this at all. Sounds way too forced.
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i love old eminem, sorry but i just think hes over-rated as fuck. even the stuff i like doesnt stand up other classic hip-hop. thats just my opinion, people fawn over eminem way too much just because he has sick multis and flow. hes good but if he didnt get picked up by dre there wouldnt be such a huge popularity around him.
Well,if eminem wasnt signed by dre,dre wouldnt be where he is today.Aftermath was basically a failure until eminem.
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i love old eminem, sorry but i just think hes over-rated as fuck. even the stuff i like doesnt stand up other classic hip-hop. thats just my opinion, people fawn over eminem way too much just because he has sick multis and flow. hes good but if he didnt get picked up by dre there wouldnt be such a huge popularity around him.
Well,if eminem wasnt signed by dre,dre wouldnt be where he is today.Aftermath was basically a failure until eminem.
well he wouldnt be quite as rich thats for sure. however all his best work was before eminem. anyway i dont really see your point?
eminem was highly marketable and a great success, he still overrated as hell.
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Dr.dre himself disagrees,he said marshal mathers lp was the closest hes ever done to a perfect album.
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Dr.dre himself disagrees,he said marshal mathers lp was the closest hes ever done to a perfect album.
Music is all subjective, dr.dre says so but we can disagree.
Most hip-hop fans will agree that the chronic is a top 10 album, and if they don't include the chronic, doggystyle might be in there.
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Dr.dre himself disagrees,he said marshal mathers lp was the closest hes ever done to a perfect album.
its already been said yeh if dre really thinks mmlp is more perfect that chronic or doggystyle then his ear is going (just look at the beats hes put out in the past few years, not up to standard). imo 2001 was the last album were he had classic beats that i was feelin. anyway everyone has their own opinion, as much as i like eminems old shit, to me its far from perfect.
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All I was doing was responding to you saying eminem wouldnt be where he is today without dre.Well,it works two ways because dre wouldnt be where he is today without em.dre left deathrow with nothing and started aftermath.both aftermath releases did modestly well commericially but were pretty much failures musically.Dre is only as good as the musicians he can hire.And in those days he couldnt afford great musicians.His sound was stale and he didnt have an artist on his label that could sell.Its not hard to see why king t never came out that album wasnt very good and would have flopped and it would probably would have been a wrap for dre.Then jimmy iovine brought em to dre and they made history together.They both needed eachother equally.It rejuvenated dres career and brought him into legend status.We wouldnt have had 2001 if not for eminems success.Eminem needed that cosign to be accepted and dre needed someone to rejuvenate him.I just dont buy the over rated talk,hes eminem is an amazing artist and his work stands for itself.But its all subjective.You just cant deny his impact on the game or on dres career.
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nah of course i dont deny his impact on the game, as a FORCE. i just dont think eminems albums stand up to classic shit MUSICALLY, but his impact on the game was huge and he has had some great shit. one of the biggest things to ever happen to hip hop, no doubt. i just think he gets way too much praise (like nas) because his older shit was really good, that no matter what he does people either a) say its amazing no matter how it sounds b)excessively hate on it no matter how it sounds.
thats the trouble when you have a lot of early success.
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Im gonna disagree,people critcize nas and eminem A LOT harsher then they do other artists.Look @ encore and relapse people trashed those albums.And when nas drops wack shit the fans are the first ones to call it wack.
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yeh thats what im saying, option b) people will excessively hate on it anyway (even the big fans)
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I think em has been critiqued almost perfectly,his first three albums are great and his last two were sub par.Same with nas,his good albums are called good and his bad ones are called bad.Sure evryones opinion is different but thats the general consensus
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I think Em gets criticized because a lot of his stuff is shtick that appeals to 14 year old kids. He can spit no doubt, but a lot of his music doesn't have that longevity. What fans consider his greatest album, the MMLP, was almost all about controversy and shock value. And I loved that album as a kid. I bumped the fuck out of it for about half a year. But I'll be honest and say that I got sick of it and for the longest time I wouldn't even touch it. When he makes songs like 8 Mile, Lose Yourself, Stan, those are classics and that is Eminem at his best. But My Name Is, Real Slim Shady, Kill you, Ass Like That, and aaaaalllll the other songs like that to me are just Em caving in and making songs for little boys to giggle about.
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I think thats just his personality,the only thing hes caving into is being himself.
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I think thats just his personality,the only thing hes caving into is being himself.
Lol, he's not being himself. Don't tell me you believe in what he says
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Have you ever watched interviews with him?Hes a funny,goofy guy.His songs reflect that.Its not some made up image.Nobody makes songs like that to appease to little boys giggling when their considered one of the best rappers of all time and can drop any music they want and it would still sell.
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Have you ever watched interviews with him?Hes a funny,goofy guy.His songs reflect that.Its not some made up image.Nobody makes songs like that to appease to little boys giggling when their considered one of the best rappers of all time and can drop any music they want and it would still sell.
He's a goofy guy. Yes. But that doesn't change the fact he makes records to get attention and says things that are bullshit. You were all kids when MMLP came out. You ate up the controversy and shock lyrics like cornflakes. Now he's doing the same thing and people aren't digging it as much. There's the corny accent yes, but there isn't a big difference in the type of music he's making. It's just played out now is all.
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I dont like it.. its not musical at all
he fights with the BEAT all song long.. hes off beat the whole entire time like Ras Kass, or Saafir i actually have to sit there and force myself to listen..
i like those Khalil drums, just wish em wouldve tooken a different approach.
just my non biased opinion, comin from a guy who HATED relapse and admittingly enough, em said it wasnt that good but the groupies still loved it. crazy. bishop lamont does something similiar and fans hated that em fans or not lol em's the great white hype lol
Haha, word. I was thinking about Bishop Lamont's commentary on Crack a Bottle and Relapse in general. He said it was pretty wack and got a lot of heat. Eminem more or less says it's not up to par and it's okay.
Bishop Lamont seemed to be the only one in tune with the people
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Still,that doesnt matter you dont say that about the new single from your label mate thats just stupid keep those comments to yourself.Especially from a small fish in the pond like bishop.Now I love bishop hes one of my favourite artists so dont construe it as hating.You just dont say shit like that about someone on your label when their trying to promote it.Thats like like lil wayne coming out and saying man I aint feeling that new drake single,its wack.Just absurdly stupid.
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Still,that doesnt matter you dont say that about the new single from your label mate thats just stupid keep those comments to yourself.Especially from a small fish in the pond like bishop.Now I love bishop hes one of my favourite artists so dont construe it as hating.You just dont say shit like that about someone on your label when their trying to promote it.Thats like like lil wayne coming out and saying man I aint feeling that new drake single,its wack.Just absurdly stupid.
I'm not disagreeing about the politics of it. Just that Bishop was keeping it real and people hated on him for it when everyone was out of touch with the consumer fanbase.
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bishop was being real for saying crack a bottle was shit. he obviously wasn't feeling it and he'd heard enough of the dre vault to know if something was dope or not. i felt the musical direction on relapse was too over the top and corny for my tastes, even if it was for eminem.
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All I was doing was responding to you saying eminem wouldnt be where he is today without dre.Well,it works two ways because dre wouldnt be where he is today without em.dre left deathrow with nothing and started aftermath.both aftermath releases did modestly well commericially but were pretty much failures musically.Dre is only as good as the musicians he can hire.And in those days he couldnt afford great musicians.His sound was stale and he didnt have an artist on his label that could sell.Its not hard to see why king t never came out that album wasnt very good and would have flopped and it would probably would have been a wrap for dre.Then jimmy iovine brought em to dre and they made history together.They both needed eachother equally.It rejuvenated dres career and brought him into legend status.We wouldnt have had 2001 if not for eminems success.Eminem needed that cosign to be accepted and dre needed someone to rejuvenate him.I just dont buy the over rated talk,hes eminem is an amazing artist and his work stands for itself.But its all subjective.You just cant deny his impact on the game or on dres career.
LOL wtf, Dre wasn't able to effort great musicians?
he left death row with millions
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average song, nothing amazing, its eminem so i was expecting more....lets see if its a grower.
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Ok, Im a white guy so i just got really drunk and lisnted to ass like that,
and i would much rather eminem using his GAY accent DISSING pop, than to do a song wiyh some pop singer.
i HATE encore and never listen to it, but i like the fact that it is a part of emienems discography.
relapse was another good addition,and by the sound of not afraid and wont back down so will recovery.
but em could have got anybody to the hook to "wont back down" the only explanation for him doing it would have to be for publicity.
which is always EM's MO but i just feel let down.
whenever pinks ORIGINAL single comes on from her first single"which was one some white girl EVE type shit" i will always listen to it but her carrer went to some pop shit.
em just added pink and rhianna to his new cd for POP publicity.
and no shit i am a 19 year old white guy from australia
and started listening to eminem when MMLP came out.
when i first heard stan on the radio i hated it and said out loud WTF has happened to the music indusrty, but in that same day i brought the single because i loved the song after i heard it a few times.
so i think of myself as a true hip hop fan, liking it as a music genre over anything else, not because it was cool, or any of that shit.
but come one i just love eminem and would of prefered if he had stuck to his original publicity stunts haha.
anyway i guess, since this song is and awesome song, eminem made the right choice.
and good on him.
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All I was doing was responding to you saying eminem wouldnt be where he is today without dre.Well,it works two ways because dre wouldnt be where he is today without em.dre left deathrow with nothing and started aftermath.both aftermath releases did modestly well commericially but were pretty much failures musically.Dre is only as good as the musicians he can hire.And in those days he couldnt afford great musicians.His sound was stale and he didnt have an artist on his label that could sell.Its not hard to see why king t never came out that album wasnt very good and would have flopped and it would probably would have been a wrap for dre.Then jimmy iovine brought em to dre and they made history together.They both needed eachother equally.It rejuvenated dres career and brought him into legend status.We wouldnt have had 2001 if not for eminems success.Eminem needed that cosign to be accepted and dre needed someone to rejuvenate him.I just dont buy the over rated talk,hes eminem is an amazing artist and his work stands for itself.But its all subjective.You just cant deny his impact on the game or on dres career.
LOL wtf, Dre wasn't able to effort great musicians?
he left death row with millions
And you know this how?Were you dr.dres personal accountant at the time?Its not hard to see the quality of music went up after eminem dropped.
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HAHAH, WACK
I told you pieces of shit this album is was made for stadiums and fitness gyms
this is straight POP
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So 'Dr. Dre Presents the Aftermath' was a wack album? ;D
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HAHAH, WACK
I told you pieces of shit this album is was made for stadiums and fitness gyms
this is straight POP
Do you feel compelled to post on EVERY single thread about Eminem? when yet all you do is say how shit such and such a song is, i get it, you don't like Eminem so why do you feel the need to sound like a broken record?
You are obsessed dude, you probably have some gay crush on Eminem and you are trying to fight it with contrived hate ;D
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HAHAH, WACK
I told you pieces of shit this album is was made for stadiums and fitness gyms
this is straight POP
Do you feel compelled to post on EVERY single thread about Eminem? when yet all you do is say how shit such and such a song is, i get it, you don't like Eminem so why do you feel the need to sound like a broken record?
You are obsessed dude, you probably have some gay crush on Eminem and you are trying to fight it with contrived hate ;D
listen bitch, I thought Relapse was a dope album
check ya self white boy
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Actually long beach iz active was more complimentary of relapse then most eminem fans.
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Lol alright my bad, although it's ironic since I thought Relapse was a mixed bag and again, having heard this song for the second time, I really like this song.
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This song is annoying and kinda cheesy . eminem missed with this song bad PINK ? WTF
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All I was doing was responding to you saying eminem wouldnt be where he is today without dre.Well,it works two ways because dre wouldnt be where he is today without em.dre left deathrow with nothing and started aftermath.both aftermath releases did modestly well commericially but were pretty much failures musically.Dre is only as good as the musicians he can hire.And in those days he couldnt afford great musicians.His sound was stale and he didnt have an artist on his label that could sell.Its not hard to see why king t never came out that album wasnt very good and would have flopped and it would probably would have been a wrap for dre.Then jimmy iovine brought em to dre and they made history together.They both needed eachother equally.It rejuvenated dres career and brought him into legend status.We wouldnt have had 2001 if not for eminems success.Eminem needed that cosign to be accepted and dre needed someone to rejuvenate him.I just dont buy the over rated talk,hes eminem is an amazing artist and his work stands for itself.But its all subjective.You just cant deny his impact on the game or on dres career.
LOL wtf, Dre wasn't able to effort great musicians?
he left death row with millions
And you know this how?Were you dr.dres personal accountant at the time?Its not hard to see the quality of music went up after eminem dropped.
he sold his share of death row at the time, this is a fact.
you're just making an assumption
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All I was doing was responding to you saying eminem wouldnt be where he is today without dre.Well,it works two ways because dre wouldnt be where he is today without em.dre left deathrow with nothing and started aftermath.both aftermath releases did modestly well commericially but were pretty much failures musically.Dre is only as good as the musicians he can hire.And in those days he couldnt afford great musicians.His sound was stale and he didnt have an artist on his label that could sell.Its not hard to see why king t never came out that album wasnt very good and would have flopped and it would probably would have been a wrap for dre.Then jimmy iovine brought em to dre and they made history together.They both needed eachother equally.It rejuvenated dres career and brought him into legend status.We wouldnt have had 2001 if not for eminems success.Eminem needed that cosign to be accepted and dre needed someone to rejuvenate him.I just dont buy the over rated talk,hes eminem is an amazing artist and his work stands for itself.But its all subjective.You just cant deny his impact on the game or on dres career.
LOL wtf, Dre wasn't able to effort great musicians?
he left death row with millions
And you know this how?Were you dr.dres personal accountant at the time?Its not hard to see the quality of music went up after eminem dropped.
he sold his share of death row at the time, this is a fact.
you're just making an assumption
I was always under the impression that Dre gave his share to Suge for nothing so he could leave without any problems, and that the money he had was from royalties/nwa days and from Jimmy to start the label
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All I was doing was responding to you saying eminem wouldnt be where he is today without dre.Well,it works two ways because dre wouldnt be where he is today without em.dre left deathrow with nothing and started aftermath.both aftermath releases did modestly well commericially but were pretty much failures musically.Dre is only as good as the musicians he can hire.And in those days he couldnt afford great musicians.His sound was stale and he didnt have an artist on his label that could sell.Its not hard to see why king t never came out that album wasnt very good and would have flopped and it would probably would have been a wrap for dre.Then jimmy iovine brought em to dre and they made history together.They both needed eachother equally.It rejuvenated dres career and brought him into legend status.We wouldnt have had 2001 if not for eminems success.Eminem needed that cosign to be accepted and dre needed someone to rejuvenate him.I just dont buy the over rated talk,hes eminem is an amazing artist and his work stands for itself.But its all subjective.You just cant deny his impact on the game or on dres career.
LOL wtf, Dre wasn't able to effort great musicians?
he left death row with millions
And you know this how?Were you dr.dres personal accountant at the time?Its not hard to see the quality of music went up after eminem dropped.
he sold his share of death row at the time, this is a fact.
you're just making an assumption
i thought it was fact that dre left with nothing and didnt sell anything he just gave it to suge.in fact ive heard dre say it himself.
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^no he didn't, that's what Suge Knight said.
he only left the masters behind
All I was doing was responding to you saying eminem wouldnt be where he is today without dre.Well,it works two ways because dre wouldnt be where he is today without em.dre left deathrow with nothing and started aftermath.both aftermath releases did modestly well commericially but were pretty much failures musically.Dre is only as good as the musicians he can hire.And in those days he couldnt afford great musicians.His sound was stale and he didnt have an artist on his label that could sell.Its not hard to see why king t never came out that album wasnt very good and would have flopped and it would probably would have been a wrap for dre.Then jimmy iovine brought em to dre and they made history together.They both needed eachother equally.It rejuvenated dres career and brought him into legend status.We wouldnt have had 2001 if not for eminems success.Eminem needed that cosign to be accepted and dre needed someone to rejuvenate him.I just dont buy the over rated talk,hes eminem is an amazing artist and his work stands for itself.But its all subjective.You just cant deny his impact on the game or on dres career.
LOL wtf, Dre wasn't able to effort great musicians?
he left death row with millions
And you know this how?Were you dr.dres personal accountant at the time?Its not hard to see the quality of music went up after eminem dropped.
he sold his share of death row at the time, this is a fact.
you're just making an assumption
I was always under the impression that Dre gave his share to Suge for nothing so he could leave without any problems, and that the money he had was from royalties/nwa days and from Jimmy to start the label
if that was the case, then he wouldn't have sent his lawyers to make a deal.