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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: OG Hack Wilson on June 08, 2010, 12:11:25 PM
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will it be mostly Crooked fans who already have 14 of the 15 songs? Or will there also be a lot rap fans who say "Hey it's the guy from Slaughterhouse, I didn't know he had an album out. Let me cop this"
basically, what does Wide Awake think their demographic is?
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I will be buying it. You guys crying about how there leaked song are not true fans. Of course they are gonna release those ones first it's only common sense. If your a true fan of an artist you would com out of pocket with 15 bucks and buy it. Maybe I'm old school cause I come from a generation of people that like to have hard copies of artist for the collection.
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I will be buying it. You guys crying about how there leaked song are not true fans. Of course they are gonna release those ones first it's only common sense. If your a true fan of an artist you would com out of pocket with 15 bucks and buy it. Maybe I'm old school cause I come from a generation of people that like to have hard copies of artist for the collection.
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I mean its a shitty release, but I want to own Crooked I cd from that period. Ill try and get this.
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I will be buying it. You guys crying about how there leaked song are not true fans. Of course they are gonna release those ones first it's only common sense. If your a true fan of an artist you would com out of pocket with 15 bucks and buy it. Maybe I'm old school cause I come from a generation of people that like to have hard copies of artist for the collection.
Hmm.. I'm not buying this because Crooked said he doesn't get money from it & adviced his fans to bootleg the album.
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nope. i'm not even going to waste my bandwidth to download it
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Ill get this for sure!! Im not a crooked I collector so I dont have most of these songs.. and deff worth a place in my collection!!
peace
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I will be buying it. You guys crying about how there leaked song are not true fans. Of course they are gonna release those ones first it's only common sense. If your a true fan of an artist you would com out of pocket with 15 bucks and buy it. Maybe I'm old school cause I come from a generation of people that like to have hard copies of artist for the collection.
Crook doesn't want people to buy it though. So a true fan would skip it.
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Im copping, im guessing SH and Em fans who dont know much about Crooked I, or west coast fans who dont live on the net like peeps here.
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I will be buying it. You guys crying about how there leaked song are not true fans. Of course they are gonna release those ones first it's only common sense. If your a true fan of an artist you would com out of pocket with 15 bucks and buy it. Maybe I'm old school cause I come from a generation of people that like to have hard copies of artist for the collection.
Its common sense to release a bunch of songs that we A) already have and B) were overall disappointed with after all the years of waiting? Ooohkaay.
The economy is not boomin bruh. I'm not broke but I have better things to do with $15 than to give it to a company looking to make a quick buck off their fans with their shitty products.
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Im copping, im guessing SH and Em fans who dont know much about Crooked I, or west coast fans who dont live on the net like peeps here.
:D
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Already pre-ordered it.
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nope. i'm not even going to waste my bandwidth to download it
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I will be buying it. You guys crying about how there leaked song are not true fans. Of course they are gonna release those ones first it's only common sense. If your a true fan of an artist you would com out of pocket with 15 bucks and buy it. Maybe I'm old school cause I come from a generation of people that like to have hard copies of artist for the collection.
Its common sense to release a bunch of songs that we A) already have and B) were overall disappointed with after all the years of waiting? Ooohkaay.
The economy is not boomin bruh. I'm not broke but I have better things to do with $15 than to give it to a company looking to make a quick buck off their fans with their shitty products.
they did choose 10 really good songs for the CD....only problem is everyone they want to buy this CD has them already lol
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Probbaly not,if i randomly see it sitting on a record shelf I might impulse buy it,but that scenario is unlikely considering their probably only pressing 500 copies of the album lol
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Im copping, im guessing SH and Em fans who dont know much about Crooked I, or west coast fans who dont live on the net like peeps here.
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;D ;D
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I will!
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man shit it'z part of history if got love for him go get tha cd he'z been giving ya'll free music for fucccin years so buy tha cd or shut tha fuccc up.. stopplaying3
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man shit it'z part of history if got love for him go get tha cd he'z been giving ya'll free music for fucccin years so buy tha cd or shut tha fuccc up.. stopplaying3
Crooked I said not to support it
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man shit it'z part of history if got love for him go get tha cd he'z been giving ya'll free music for fucccin years so buy tha cd or shut tha fuccc up.. stopplaying3
Crooked I said not to support it
Crooked I should be happy someone is releasing his music. I don't care for the opinion of WA or the opinion of Crooked I. If I would want to buy this album (which I don't) I would buy it and Crooked I's opinion doesn't matter in that.
It's your money and you decide what to do with it. Not Crooked I.
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hell no.i support crooked i but im not supporting this release.even crooked i dont want his fans to support it.fuck this hoodstar album release.
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why do i need to support Crooked I?!?!
He doesn't take any official album, in the last decade. Just bootleg sh.ts, nad some "official" mixtape.
HE IS NOT SUPPORT HIS FANS!!!!
HE IS NOT SUPPORT HIMSELF!!!!!
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I will be buying it. You guys crying about how there leaked song are not true fans. Of course they are gonna release those ones first it's only common sense. If your a true fan of an artist you would com out of pocket with 15 bucks and buy it. Maybe I'm old school cause I come from a generation of people that like to have hard copies of artist for the collection.
Hmm.. I'm not buying this because Crooked said he doesn't get money from it & adviced his fans to bootleg the album.
if thats the case, that crooked won't get any loot or profit, then i won't support the cd wit my hard earned pounds and just d/l it, yes surr
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I will be buying it. You guys crying about how there leaked song are not true fans. Of course they are gonna release those ones first it's only common sense. If your a true fan of an artist you would com out of pocket with 15 bucks and buy it. Maybe I'm old school cause I come from a generation of people that like to have hard copies of artist for the collection.
Hmm.. I'm not buying this because Crooked said he doesn't get money from it & adviced his fans to bootleg the album.
Fuck what Crooked I says. Seriously. Anybody that won't buy it because they're a fan of Crooked I and only do what he says is just a groupie. A real I fan wouldn't base their decision on what he says since he's had over a decade to release an album and still hasn't. At this point the only person he can fault for that is himself.
As for if I'll buy it? If people on here say the mixing and mastering sounds better than what we previously had, and I see it in a store in my city then I'll buy it. The chance of the quality sounding better and me being able to find it are real small though. They better make this more widely available than Danny Boy.
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Seriously. Anybody that won't buy it because they're a fan of Crooked I and only do what he says is just a groupie. A real I fan wouldn't base their decision on what he says since he's had over a decade to release an album and still hasn't. At this point the only person he can fault for that is himself.
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U're right!
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I will be buying it. You guys crying about how there leaked song are not true fans. Of course they are gonna release those ones first it's only common sense. If your a true fan of an artist you would com out of pocket with 15 bucks and buy it. Maybe I'm old school cause I come from a generation of people that like to have hard copies of artist for the collection.
Hmm.. I'm not buying this because Crooked said he doesn't get money from it & adviced his fans to bootleg the album.
Fuck what Crooked I says. Seriously. Anybody that won't buy it because they're a fan of Crooked I and only do what he says is just a groupie. A real I fan wouldn't base their decision on what he says since he's had over a decade to release an album and still hasn't. At this point the only person he can fault for that is himself.
As for if I'll buy it? If people on here say the mixing and mastering sounds better than what we previously had, and I see it in a store in my city then I'll buy it. The chance of the quality sounding better and me being able to find it are real small though. They better make this more widely available than Danny Boy.
nah fam, not trying to be disrespectful or anything, but i think your getting it a little twisted, i in no way shape, form or fashion, support that repulsive, creepy, gay groupism that goes on, on internet boards or in real life, gay/male(so called but really undercover gays)groupies need to get shot, shanked, kidnapped and tortured to death and yes that might seem a little bit over the top, but i'm talking from having experience of these vermin, shook little airbear, creepy, repulsive gay groupism in real life, there all certified off key gay, faggots, wit severe, gay perv mental sexual perv problems, typical gay, fucking faggots
i'm not into the artists life, i don't care what they do, i'm not a creepy, pussy little, shook, repulsive, peeping tom, no life having, no social life, no familv having, no sex life having, voyeur, stalker piece of pussy, piece of shit, sex offender, i have my own life and bills and famo to take care of
the only thing i want to know from a artist, male or female, is if there a rat, a typical piece of shook pussy sex offender(rapist/paedophille/voyeur/stalker), or a typical pussy airbear faggot or a frontman pussy mc chatting pure fart on the mic about street shit they no nuthin about or don't rep in any shape, form or fashion, you see what i'm saying cuzzy, you get me fam, thats what i'm talking about
so long as the artist isn't any of these things, i really don't care what the artist does in there private life, i'm not a creepy pussy little no life having bougie peeping tom, voyeur, perv wit too much time and money on there hands, its none of mine or anyones bizness, you see what i'm saying, i'm just into the music, i'm a fan, customer of the music and thats it, i'm not into autographs(thats cool for human being younga'a and human being chicks), or wanting to have long conversations wit artists, the only time i might say sumthin to an above board, stand up human being artist is if there a underated, underground artist wit talent, on the come up, just bubbling, on some "keep doing you fam, you've got talent, you can spit, don't watch the haters, keep it moving and guidance", you see what i'm saying and thats it, thats where it stops and ends, just to show that support for the cause, you see what i'm saying, so another real human being brother or sister wit talent can beat the system in a positive way and serve that potent product, heads have been clucking for you know, you see what i'm saying dawg, not to give up and quit, other than that, i keep it moving fam, real talk, you get me and you know this, i'm just a fan of the music and thats it, but if i see corporate crooks trying to skank(con) 'my' human being road brothers and sisters out of there dues, then its bigger than music, harsh prisons sentences, AIDS, gentrification, fucked up inner city schools worldwide where your left wit only few options to get that loot if you fuck up in school , the roads or dead end jobs, guns and shanks in the hood, police brutality, i could go on and on, its the bigger picture cuz, i'm wit my human being road brothers and sisters in this struggle, thats all it is, nothing else, for real like, you get me and you know this, i swear down like, its nuthin long
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Seriously you guys are buying the same fucking shit that leaked in the same Q minus one song? Cause it was put in a cd case with a shitty cover, with most likely no fucking booklet or real pictures? Sad imo.
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why do i need to support Crooked I?!?!
He doesn't take any official album, in the last decade. Just bootleg sh.ts, nad some "official" mixtape.
HE IS NOT SUPPORT HIS FANS!!!!
HE IS NOT SUPPORT HIMSELF!!!!!
lol, do you use Google Translate to type your posts?
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If the shit is available and not way over-priced, I'll cop it. I wanted to buy Danny Boy's album but I can only find it online and it's usually about $16.
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Seriously you guys are buying the same fucking shit that leaked in the same Q minus one song? Cause it was put in a cd case with a shitty cover, with most likely no fucking booklet or real pictures? Sad imo.
Yes.
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Seriously you guys are buying the same fucking shit that leaked in the same Q minus one song? Cause it was put in a cd case with a shitty cover, with most likely no fucking booklet or real pictures? Sad imo.
Yes.
Same.
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The economy is not boomin bruh. I'm not broke but I have better things to do with $15 than to give it to a company looking to make a quick buck off their fans with their shitty products.
^^ nigga would get the electric chair for all the music he bee stillin
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man shit it'z part of history if got love for him go get tha cd he'z been giving ya'll free music for fucccin years so buy tha cd or shut tha fuccc up.. stopplaying3
Crooked I said not to support it
Crooked I should be happy someone is releasing his music. I don't care for the opinion of WA or the opinion of Crooked I. If I would want to buy this album (which I don't) I would buy it and Crooked I's opinion doesn't matter in that.
It's your money and you decide what to do with it. Not Crooked I.
But there's ZERO point in buying this. 1) All the tracks have already been released online. 2) The tracks they picked don't make a good album. 3) I'm not even sure it can be considered an official album if the artist doesn't want anything to do with it (even though WA is trying to push it as such). Therefore the only reason to buy this would be to support the artist (which a lot of people like to do). Bringing me back to the first point, Crooked doesn't want people to support it. The dude I was replying to was saying you should buy this if you have love for him. My comment made perfect sense.
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I will add this to my Collection. The Track selection is a shame but guck it
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why do i need to support Crooked I?!?!
He doesn't take any official album, in the last decade. Just bootleg sh.ts, nad some "official" mixtape.
HE IS NOT SUPPORT HIS FANS!!!!
HE IS NOT SUPPORT HIMSELF!!!!!
1-the money does not go to Crooked
2-Crook helps his fans by giving them FREE quality music, instead of having to pay for crappy music from mainstream niggas
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i'm gonna wait until it leaks and hear the quality. i'm 99% sure its been mixed differently than the ones we got...for better or for worse. if its good i'll buy it. then bootleg the shit out of it!
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The way I see it, if the album sells well, we stand a better chance of getting both more Crooked material from Wideawake as well as an official debut from the man himself. Like I said, I've heard very little of the leaked material and if the album is available around my way at a decent price, I'll cop it.
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Crooked I already got paid for those tracks by SUGE KNIGHT so of course if it isn't going to generate any new money for him self he will not support it.
The less people that buy it the more rare it is for my collection.
I'm not trying to say anything bad to people that don't buy the album because it's there choice to DOWNLOAD or BUY. Me If I don't like at least half the album I download them my self. However those are some bomb CROOKED tracks so I'm gonna cop it.
I look at it this way for the price I pay for 3 beers at the bar I would rather spend it on the CD because it's something I'll have for ever the beers get pissed out quick lol...
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you pay 13 bucks for 3 beers?
jesus
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Beers are like 450 each hear so after the 50 cent tip to the sexy bitch I'd say thats about right.
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Beers are like 450 each hear so after the 50 cent tip to the sexy bitch I'd say thats about right.
here ;)
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Beers are like 450 each hear so after the 50 cent tip to the sexy bitch I'd say thats about right.
wow a whole 50 cents?somebodys ballin out of control.
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Beers are like 450 each hear so after the 50 cent tip to the sexy bitch I'd say thats about right.
You hang out at the wrong bars. No wonder you motherfuckers complain about being broke in ToT.
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Anyone who thinks this thing has even a remote chance of selling decently is delusional. It won't even sell 500 copies. Hell I would bet it won't sell 250.
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Have any of you guys ever been to a real club? LOL @ complaining about the beers being 4.50 when they are like $15 a piece in big clubs. Mixed drinks are almost twice that.
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Have any of you guys ever been to a real club? LOL @ complaining about the beers being 4.50 when they are like $15 a piece in big clubs. Mixed drinks are almost twice that.
hahah, well its your money, if you want to waste it go ahead I guess. I only go to clubs to holler at bitches, and there are just as many of them at the cheap places.
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Despite what the homie Crooked says i'm gettin that shit anyway cause it's gonna have some of his row flow. he need to step up his indie album hustle
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Have any of you guys ever been to a real club? LOL @ complaining about the beers being 4.50 when they are like $15 a piece in big clubs. Mixed drinks are almost twice that.
you pay 15 bucks for a drink? hahaha
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fuck no, the stuff he did on deathrow was garbage.
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Really, I feel pretty good about buying it since it's probably the only Crooked I album I'll ever have to buy.
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Really, I feel pretty good about buying it since it's probably the only Crooked I album I'll ever have to buy.
yeah, don't get sentimental though :laugh:
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To the people on here who say "crooked i doesnt want me to buy it so im not goin to get it":
Are you a real person who thinks for himself? Did God give you a brain? Or are you just some pet that gets bossed around through the Internet? Crooked I says don't buy it, Hutch and Vegas say buy it. Make up your own mind.
I'm going to get it because I want a tangible album that I can put on a shelf and pop into the cd player and say "this is Crook's debut album from 2001." Does it really make a difference in your life whether or not someone tell you what they want to do?
When DPG 2002 came out, Kurupt recognized it as an official release and Daz didn't, so I'm not going to say "i went and bought it because kurupt said it was okay." I would have copped it regardless.
Give me a break. All I'm sayin is think for yourselfs and don't involve yourself with these label politics. 10 years from now, Crook might look back on it and say he's proud of it when people start coming up to him and shaking his hand and telling him what a great album he made.
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You guys crying about how there leaked song are not true fans. Of course they are gonna release those ones first it's only common sense. If your a true fan of an artist you would com out of pocket with 15 bucks and buy it.
Look, Im a big Crooked I fan, I buy all the shit HE puts out himself. Im not supporting these VastAsleep morons who wanna get payed off of old material thats been leaked with a better tracklist anyway. Put out some of the shit people really wanna hear (Jack 101, Raw Dawgs, Crook Show etc.) and maybe I'll THINK about buying it, fuck outta here with that bullshit.
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Beers are like 450 each hear so after the 50 cent tip to the sexy bitch I'd say thats about right.
wow a whole 50 cents?somebodys ballin out of control.
thats because it's the local bar. when I go to clubs I buy bottles. but that ain't even a problem you see I'm a scotch drinker and shots of glenfidich are like 8 bucks each and I order doubles so thats like one drink for the price of the CD.
Trust me I ain't rich but I'm alright with the fetti so I guess thats why I don't mind coppin cd's for the collection. Don't get me wrong I used to be a broke ass kid and we didn't have the internet to download cd's and tapes from so when I was a kid I used to str8 shoplift Cassettes and CD's out of the record store until I got caught lol....
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To the people on here who say "crooked i doesnt want me to buy it so im not goin to get it":
Are you a real person who thinks for himself? Did God give you a brain? Or are you just some pet that gets bossed around through the Internet? Crooked I says don't buy it, Hutch and Vegas say buy it. Make up your own mind.
I'm going to get it because I want a tangible album that I can put on a shelf and pop into the cd player and say "this is Crook's debut album from 2001." Does it really make a difference in your life whether or not someone tell you what they want to do?
When DPG 2002 came out, Kurupt recognized it as an official release and Daz didn't, so I'm not going to say "i went and bought it because kurupt said it was okay." I would have copped it regardless.
Give me a break. All I'm sayin is think for yourselfs and don't involve yourself with these label politics. 10 years from now, Crook might look back on it and say he's proud of it when people start coming up to him and shaking his hand and telling him what a great album he made.
Calm down. His debut album already leaked, this version doesn't even have the same name as his debut, and its not even an official album from Crooked. It's another company releasing a compilation of old tracks that you should already have, and not even sanctioned by the artist. Completely pointless to shell out money for. And believe it or not some people actually buy albums to support the artists they like. OMG what a concept!
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To the people on here who say "crooked i doesnt want me to buy it so im not goin to get it":
Are you a real person who thinks for himself? Did God give you a brain? Or are you just some pet that gets bossed around through the Internet? Crooked I says don't buy it, Hutch and Vegas say buy it. Make up your own mind.
I'm going to get it because I want a tangible album that I can put on a shelf and pop into the cd player and say "this is Crook's debut album from 2001." Does it really make a difference in your life whether or not someone tell you what they want to do?
When DPG 2002 came out, Kurupt recognized it as an official release and Daz didn't, so I'm not going to say "i went and bought it because kurupt said it was okay." I would have copped it regardless.
Give me a break. All I'm sayin is think for yourselfs and don't involve yourself with these label politics. 10 years from now, Crook might look back on it and say he's proud of it when people start coming up to him and shaking his hand and telling him what a great album he made.
Calm down. His debut album already leaked, this version doesn't even have the same name as his debut, and its not even an official album from Crooked. It's another company releasing a compilation of old tracks that you should already have, and not even sanctioned by the artist. Completely pointless to shell out money for. And believe it or not some people actually buy albums to support the artists they like. OMG what a concept!
I agree with what you're saying that this was kind of a pointless release. But I also understand dude's point about people saying "Crooked doesn't support this so I can't buy it." I have no problem with people choosing not to buy it. But people should think for themselves. It's cool to like or respect Crooked I as an artist. But some people on here act like little mindless Crooked I Drones. I'm really not trying to single out Crooked I here. I don't think people should manage their lives around what any other person says. But especially not a popular musician that they don't even know personally.
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If people want to buy it, they should buy it because they want to <<<< Hay, there's a concept
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Have any of you guys ever been to a real club? LOL @ complaining about the beers being 4.50 when they are like $15 a piece in big clubs. Mixed drinks are almost twice that.
you pay 15 bucks for a drink? hahaha
If I end up in a club it's either because I'm spinning there or have a homie who gets us the hook up. I didn't say I was paying that much for drinks, just that it can get much more expensive than what they were saying. $15 drinks are absurd of course.
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I would buy this if I had the money to buy all new albums
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To the people on here who say "crooked i doesnt want me to buy it so im not goin to get it":
Are you a real person who thinks for himself? Did God give you a brain? Or are you just some pet that gets bossed around through the Internet? Crooked I says don't buy it, Hutch and Vegas say buy it. Make up your own mind.
I'm going to get it because I want a tangible album that I can put on a shelf and pop into the cd player and say "this is Crook's debut album from 2001." Does it really make a difference in your life whether or not someone tell you what they want to do?
When DPG 2002 came out, Kurupt recognized it as an official release and Daz didn't, so I'm not going to say "i went and bought it because kurupt said it was okay." I would have copped it regardless.
Give me a break. All I'm sayin is think for yourselfs and don't involve yourself with these label politics. 10 years from now, Crook might look back on it and say he's proud of it when people start coming up to him and shaking his hand and telling him what a great album he made.
Calm down. His debut album already leaked, this version doesn't even have the same name as his debut, and its not even an official album from Crooked. It's another company releasing a compilation of old tracks that you should already have, and not even sanctioned by the artist. Completely pointless to shell out money for. And believe it or not some people actually buy albums to support the artists they like. OMG what a concept!
I agree with what you're saying that this was kind of a pointless release. But I also understand dude's point about people saying "Crooked doesn't support this so I can't buy it." I have no problem with people choosing not to buy it. But people should think for themselves. It's cool to like or respect Crooked I as an artist. But some people on here act like little mindless Crooked I Drones. I'm really not trying to single out Crooked I here. I don't think people should manage their lives around what any other person says. But especially not a popular musician that they don't even know personally.
Cosign. Lots of ppl just saying don't buy the album because Crooked I said it, and not really thinking about the big picture.
If Crooked I was so against it, he could have just slowly gave us tracks from his Death Row days, over the past few years, and none of this would have even been an issue. Now somebody else is going to be eating off his music, and he doesn't like it, but who's to fault for it coming to this point? There's obviously a demand for his music whether it be from today, or almost a decade ago, so somebody is filling that demand because Crooked I isn't. And I'm a Crooked I fan till the death, but I gotta be real about this shit.
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To the people on here who say "crooked i doesnt want me to buy it so im not goin to get it":
Are you a real person who thinks for himself? Did God give you a brain? Or are you just some pet that gets bossed around through the Internet? Crooked I says don't buy it, Hutch and Vegas say buy it. Make up your own mind.
I'm going to get it because I want a tangible album that I can put on a shelf and pop into the cd player and say "this is Crook's debut album from 2001." Does it really make a difference in your life whether or not someone tell you what they want to do?
When DPG 2002 came out, Kurupt recognized it as an official release and Daz didn't, so I'm not going to say "i went and bought it because kurupt said it was okay." I would have copped it regardless.
Give me a break. All I'm sayin is think for yourselfs and don't involve yourself with these label politics. 10 years from now, Crook might look back on it and say he's proud of it when people start coming up to him and shaking his hand and telling him what a great album he made.
Calm down. His debut album already leaked, this version doesn't even have the same name as his debut, and its not even an official album from Crooked. It's another company releasing a compilation of old tracks that you should already have, and not even sanctioned by the artist. Completely pointless to shell out money for. And believe it or not some people actually buy albums to support the artists they like. OMG what a concept!
I agree with what you're saying that this was kind of a pointless release. But I also understand dude's point about people saying "Crooked doesn't support this so I can't buy it." I have no problem with people choosing not to buy it. But people should think for themselves. It's cool to like or respect Crooked I as an artist. But some people on here act like little mindless Crooked I Drones. I'm really not trying to single out Crooked I here. I don't think people should manage their lives around what any other person says. But especially not a popular musician that they don't even know personally.
I don't think wanting to support an artist you like makes you a mindless drone. It makes you a fan. If these were songs we had never heard before then there would be a reason to buy this. BUT since as we agree this is a pointless release, the only other reason to buy it would be to support the artist. And in this case its not supporting him. Believe it or not, some people buy albums because they want to support the artists they like.
Also, I wouldn't call Crooked I a popular musician.
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some people on here are saying they are not mindless, but they are not suppoerting this release because they support Crooked I. Some say it is pointless to support this because the tracks on this release have already leaked. just wondering if WideAwake was releasing the Untouchable album and Crooked said not to support it how many so called fans would listen to him?
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some people on here are saying they are not mindless, but they are not suppoerting this release because they support Crooked I. Some say it is pointless to support this because the tracks on this release have already leaked. just wondering if WideAwake was releasing the Untouchable album and Crooked said not to support it how many so called fans would listen to him?
Yes.
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Crooked should sit back and enjoy this release. At least it's a retail album of custom work, his own beats, thoughts, and lyrics into one project.
If not, he can continue down the path of mixtape-rapper, and become a commercially & globally unknown rap act with talent who could have been something, like so many others in the past with talent, but were either too stubborn or stupid to know a good thing when they saw it. The leak and discussion of one Death Row track "Slap Back" saw more interest and discussion through various rap news sites and forums than a series of his freestyles ever did
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To the people on here who say "crooked i doesnt want me to buy it so im not goin to get it":
Are you a real person who thinks for himself? Did God give you a brain? Or are you just some pet that gets bossed around through the Internet? Crooked I says don't buy it, Hutch and Vegas say buy it. Make up your own mind.
I'm going to get it because I want a tangible album that I can put on a shelf and pop into the cd player and say "this is Crook's debut album from 2001." Does it really make a difference in your life whether or not someone tell you what they want to do?
When DPG 2002 came out, Kurupt recognized it as an official release and Daz didn't, so I'm not going to say "i went and bought it because kurupt said it was okay." I would have copped it regardless.
Give me a break. All I'm sayin is think for yourselfs and don't involve yourself with these label politics. 10 years from now, Crook might look back on it and say he's proud of it when people start coming up to him and shaking his hand and telling him what a great album he made.
Calm down. His debut album already leaked, this version doesn't even have the same name as his debut, and its not even an official album from Crooked. It's another company releasing a compilation of old tracks that you should already have, and not even sanctioned by the artist. Completely pointless to shell out money for. And believe it or not some people actually buy albums to support the artists they like. OMG what a concept!
I agree with what you're saying that this was kind of a pointless release. But I also understand dude's point about people saying "Crooked doesn't support this so I can't buy it." I have no problem with people choosing not to buy it. But people should think for themselves. It's cool to like or respect Crooked I as an artist. But some people on here act like little mindless Crooked I Drones. I'm really not trying to single out Crooked I here. I don't think people should manage their lives around what any other person says. But especially not a popular musician that they don't even know personally.
I don't think wanting to support an artist you like makes you a mindless drone. It makes you a fan. If these were songs we had never heard before then there would be a reason to buy this. BUT since as we agree this is a pointless release, the only other reason to buy it would be to support the artist. And in this case its not supporting him. Believe it or not, some people buy albums because they want to support the artists they like.
Also, I wouldn't call Crooked I a popular musician.
Wanting to support an artist is fine, but people take it too far. For that matter, not buying this cd because it's a pointless release would also be an acceptable reason. But there are those who act like they can't think for themselves. Again, I'm not trying to just single out Crooked I fans, I'm talking about anyone who can't make a decision without checking to see what someone famous thinks about it first. And yeah, when I referred to Crooked I as a popular musician, I was using the term loosely because I wasn't just talking about Crooked I. But I think you understood the point I was trying to make.
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To the people on here who say "crooked i doesnt want me to buy it so im not goin to get it":
Are you a real person who thinks for himself? Did God give you a brain? Or are you just some pet that gets bossed around through the Internet? Crooked I says don't buy it, Hutch and Vegas say buy it. Make up your own mind.
I'm going to get it because I want a tangible album that I can put on a shelf and pop into the cd player and say "this is Crook's debut album from 2001." Does it really make a difference in your life whether or not someone tell you what they want to do?
When DPG 2002 came out, Kurupt recognized it as an official release and Daz didn't, so I'm not going to say "i went and bought it because kurupt said it was okay." I would have copped it regardless.
Give me a break. All I'm sayin is think for yourselfs and don't involve yourself with these label politics. 10 years from now, Crook might look back on it and say he's proud of it when people start coming up to him and shaking his hand and telling him what a great album he made.
Calm down. His debut album already leaked, this version doesn't even have the same name as his debut, and its not even an official album from Crooked. It's another company releasing a compilation of old tracks that you should already have, and not even sanctioned by the artist. Completely pointless to shell out money for. And believe it or not some people actually buy albums to support the artists they like. OMG what a concept!
I agree with what you're saying that this was kind of a pointless release. But I also understand dude's point about people saying "Crooked doesn't support this so I can't buy it." I have no problem with people choosing not to buy it. But people should think for themselves. It's cool to like or respect Crooked I as an artist. But some people on here act like little mindless Crooked I Drones. I'm really not trying to single out Crooked I here. I don't think people should manage their lives around what any other person says. But especially not a popular musician that they don't even know personally.
Cosign. Lots of ppl just saying don't buy the album because Crooked I said it, and not really thinking about the big picture.
If Crooked I was so against it, he could have just slowly gave us tracks from his Death Row days, over the past few years, and none of this would have even been an issue. Now somebody else is going to be eating off his music, and he doesn't like it, but who's to fault for it coming to this point? There's obviously a demand for his music whether it be from today, or almost a decade ago, so somebody is filling that demand because Crooked I isn't. And I'm a Crooked I fan till the death, but I gotta be real about this shit.
Good point
+1
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Calm down. His debut album already leaked, this version doesn't even have the same name as his debut, and its not even an official album from Crooked. It's another company releasing a compilation of old tracks that you should already have, and not even sanctioned by the artist. Completely pointless to shell out money for. And believe it or not some people actually buy albums to support the artists they like. OMG what a concept!
Dubcnn: Do you think Crooked I fans should view this as his official debut retail album?
Hutch: Yes and let me explain why. Anytime you make music, when you made it, you made it to come out to the world. I don’t understand when people ask me if he should be proud of it as his debut album. Is that what you’re saying?
Well this is his first record as far as his thing goes. It’s not a mixtape. It’s not him on other people’s beats. It is his thing. If you ask me [if it should be seen as his debut album], yes because anytime you go into that studio and do stuff, you put yourself on that mic and you put yourself to the world, yes because it’s his work.
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Calm down. His debut album already leaked, this version doesn't even have the same name as his debut, and its not even an official album from Crooked. It's another company releasing a compilation of old tracks that you should already have, and not even sanctioned by the artist. Completely pointless to shell out money for. And believe it or not some people actually buy albums to support the artists they like. OMG what a concept!
Dubcnn: Do you think Crooked I fans should view this as his official debut retail album?
Hutch: Yes and let me explain why. Anytime you make music, when you made it, you made it to come out to the world. I don’t understand when people ask me if he should be proud of it as his debut album. Is that what you’re saying?
Well this is his first record as far as his thing goes. It’s not a mixtape. It’s not him on other people’s beats. It is his thing. If you ask me [if it should be seen as his debut album], yes because anytime you go into that studio and do stuff, you put yourself on that mic and you put yourself to the world, yes because it’s his work.
Its already been stated this is a collection of tracks and not a real album.f he dropped on deathrow this wouldnt not have been the tracklisting.This has already been proven.i dont care what wideawake is trying to tell people.
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Calm down. His debut album already leaked, this version doesn't even have the same name as his debut, and its not even an official album from Crooked. It's another company releasing a compilation of old tracks that you should already have, and not even sanctioned by the artist. Completely pointless to shell out money for. And believe it or not some people actually buy albums to support the artists they like. OMG what a concept!
Dubcnn: Do you think Crooked I fans should view this as his official debut retail album?
Hutch: Yes and let me explain why. Anytime you make music, when you made it, you made it to come out to the world. I don’t understand when people ask me if he should be proud of it as his debut album. Is that what you’re saying?
Well this is his first record as far as his thing goes. It’s not a mixtape. It’s not him on other people’s beats. It is his thing. If you ask me [if it should be seen as his debut album], yes because anytime you go into that studio and do stuff, you put yourself on that mic and you put yourself to the world, yes because it’s his work.
Its already been stated this is a collection of tracks and not a real album.f he dropped on deathrow this wouldnt not have been the tracklisting.This has already been proven.i dont care what wideawake is trying to tell people.
That's not just "Wideawake" that's Big Hutch who co-produced the album with Darren "The Beatbanger" Vegas for Crook. I agree with you in that it wouldnt have been the EXACT hand selected tracks and numbers that coincide with the tracklist. However, all these tracks recorded were intended for the theme album of "Say Hi To Tha Bad Guy" and "Hoodstar." Crooked I recorded over 70 tracks or so for that album theme. Death Row paid for these acts to come on and do damage like Jadakiss, Juvenile, Too Short, and Dru Hill along with Tha Row's cast of characters at the time (go look it up) Ray J, Eastwood was the Scottie Pippen even though he looked like Jordan on this thing, and Kurupt was with the label too. Crook recorded a grip of tracks for "Untouchable," then he started working with Hutch & Vegas on "Say Hi To Tha Bad Guy." Suge didn't release it and he began working on "Hoodstar" and the track "Hoodstar" was the new single. Then it never surfaced and then he said in an interview for some reason they wouldn't drop the album. Then "Lil Youngstaz" became the new rumored single. This is not just a throw-together compilation. It is a collection of tracks with the simiilar theme of the SHTTBG and Hoodstar themes. The beats have similar production and the tracks had a purpose to be selected from a bigger group of tracks. So I agree in that these might not be the exact 15 that Suge would have selected but it is still off of the same playlist that the tracks would have come from. Therefore, it's definitely an album based on the theme and production and time period.
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yeah most of these tracks were probably recorded between 2001 and mid 2002. A mix between late untouchable and "Say hi to Tha Bad Guy version 1" shit probably.......
But with Death Row that doesnt mean shit. Things changed everyday. Big Hutch left, left eye and kurupt joined in early 2002
I bet they have different versions of every song. They probably have a Darren Vegas produced House party too.
Or lala wit another Crooked i verse.
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Yeah, "Hood Star" definitely isn't literally "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" with just a different name on the cd. This is a compilation of various tracks, many of which were from the "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" recording sessions. But I'm 100% sure it's not the same album we would have got if they released "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" on any of the many occasions that it was supposed to come out. But to be fair, Suge was doing the same thing when he still had "Tha Row." Look at "Dogg Pound:2002" or "Snoop Dogg: Dead Man Walkin.'" Those were also just compilations of tracks from various unreleased projects. The sound quality was much better back then, but Suge was just as guilty of releasing compilations as the people who are in charge now.
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But I'm 100% sure it's not the same album we would have got if they released "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" on any of the many occasions that it was supposed to come out.
Both Darksider and johnnyl are right on, but Suge was known for changing tracklists at the very last second before the album pressing. Look back to Doggystyle and he put "gz up hoez down" on there and pulled "tha next episode." And yeah, his label is known for recording several remixes switching beats, switching guest appearances, and sometimes, switching artists alltogether (i.e. "Can't C Me" by Pac was originally Dogg Pound's track). So if you really want to be serious, when any artist records an album for Tha Row, they are serving up more than enough material for an album and Suge just picked what he thought was the best 15 tracks within the theme. "All Eyez On Me" was Suge picking his favorite cuts from over 220 tracks. The same thing would have happened with "Say Hi To Tha Bad Guy," which was around 70 tracks or so being looked at closely as album material. There have already been 3 different internet versions of the album to my knowledge that have been leaked with slightly different tracks. So would Suge have picked these exact 15 tracks? Probably not, but it would have been something close considering it was from the same stockpile of tracks. He might have picked 7 or 8, and had 6 new ones recorded at the last minute. He might have changed his mind at the 11th hour and came up with something different. The only thing we do know is that these are the cuts recorded with the intension of having Suge pick 15 within the same theme. So it's not the historical authentic suge knight hand picked 15, but it's the real theme and the real intended tracks for the "Say Hi To Tha Bad Guy / Hoodstar" theme.
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how much yall think crooked i/ wide awake album debut well sell? 8)
i think they need to push a single of for crooks debut it not fair more people need to hear this shitt best lyricysts on the westcoast wide awake needs to push crooks debut hopefully they get a single and video because his debut looks to flop and it aint a good luck no. 8)
ill be buying this for sure and crook needs to get boss album out im fiending for that shit too
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lol i find the "if crooked doesn't want the 'fans' to buy hood star, i won't buy it" statement funny.
just be honest and say that you won't buy it because of the leaks
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lol i find the "if crooked doesn't want the 'fans' to buy hood star, i won't buy it" statement funny.
just be honest and say that you won't buy it because of the leaks
I could care less what he says,if this album was even half songs I hadnt heard before I would buy it.
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how much yall think crooked i/ wide awake album debut well sell? 8)
i think they need to push a single of for crooks debut it not fair more people need to hear this shitt best lyricysts on the westcoast wide awake needs to push crooks debut hopefully they get a single and video because his debut looks to flop and it aint a good luck no. 8)
ill be buying this for sure and crook needs to get boss album out im fiending for that shit too
Im going with 50k from tommorow until the end of the year. A lot of people aren't internet fiends like us and they haven't heard this stuff but they've heard of crooked i so this could be a hot word of mouth underground album that heats up with real hip hop fans over time. I'm guessing outside of california, most best buys will be lucky to stock one maybe two copies. There's not much of a market for real hip hop these days. The last commercial real hip hop success that I can think of was Nas "stillmatic" going hard on the mic in a true lyricist, non commercial format. E-40's new album ("revenue retrievin day/night shift") is the best pure hip hop album i've heard in years in terms of an artist with a commercial appeal doing pure hip hop music. Other than that, every other so-called lyricist has a few go-to club tracks and a couple party tracks with female hooks, and even that hasn't sold well in the past three years. Even the original SHTTBG was rumored to have Ja Rule on there when he was hot and one of those tracks ("Fuck Tonite") ended up on Too Gangsta For Radio.
It's so hard to promote an album now not only because of bootlegging but because mtv vh1 bet don't hardly play any music and when they do it's very select tracks. However, I think it's going to be a great release for the true fans who waited and waited and waited and even went through that period in 2001 where there was a release date set, so this is somewhat a moral victory for those fans. It's also nice to have a piece of work by crook that we can point to that time period and we can throw it in the cd player and grasp the feeling over at the label during 2001 and have an idea of what they were working with.
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LOL @ 50K.This will be lucky to sell 2k from now until the end of the year and even that is a huge stretch.