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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: krazyk on December 11, 2002, 02:51:43 PM
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Anyone see Killer Mike and Big Boi in the booth with Tig today? Killer Mike and Big boi were actually freestyling, while most on that show spit prewritten ****, killer mike was lookin at things around the room and rhyming about them , pretty tight
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DAMMMITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT I HATE missing rapcity, they always have somebody tight on there when I'm not watching.
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killer mike was lookin at things around the room and rhyming about them , pretty tight
Thats the kinda freestyling I like, then you know it's genuine.
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big bois free was nothin special...but Killer Mike...damn...thats a real emcee...i always liked him...but damn he quickly moved up my list as one of the best freestylers...it flowed perfectly...hes up there now with Evidence, Supernat, Abstract Rude & Mikah 9 as the best freestylers in the game...he clowned any rapper that ever touched the booth...damn Killer Mike...man
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big bois free was nothin special...but Killer Mike...damn...thats a real emcee...i always liked him...but damn he quickly moved up my list as one of the best freestylers...it flowed perfectly...hes up there now with Evidence, Supernat, Abstract Rude & Mikah 9 as the best freestylers in the game...he clowned any rapper that ever touched the booth...damn Killer Mike...man
hell no.....killer mike is way below Aceyalone, Evidence, Supernat, Abstract Rude & Mikah 9.........and all others...he is from the south ::)
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big bois free was nothin special...but Killer Mike...damn...thats a real emcee...i always liked him...but damn he quickly moved up my list as one of the best freestylers...it flowed perfectly...hes up there now with Evidence, Supernat, Abstract Rude & Mikah 9 as the best freestylers in the game...he clowned any rapper that ever touched the booth...damn Killer Mike...man
hell no.....killer mike is way below Aceyalone, Evidence, Supernat, Abstract Rude & Mikah 9.........and all others...he is from the south ::)
so just because he is from the south you going to hate on the man?
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hell no.....killer mike is way below Aceyalone, Evidence, Supernat, Abstract Rude & Mikah 9.........and all others...he is from the south ::)
damn ur an ignorant bastard....im not even speakin on u
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All I gotta say is, I'm proud to be in the south when cats like this are around, lol.
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hell no.....killer mike is way below Aceyalone, Evidence, Supernat, Abstract Rude & Mikah 9.........and all others...he is from the south ::)
damn ur an ignorant bastard....im not even speakin on u
lol so true...only good south artists: Flip and Scarface.....Luda is decent
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Only Good? LOL oh god. So, Andre 3000 and Big Boi aren't good? Are you actually saying that? Cee Lo sucks? The rest of Goody Mob suck? I musta misread you.
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lol so true...only good south artists: Flip and Scarface.....Luda is decent
lemme take u threw a trip of REAL south artists...not just dungeon family ::)
so u mean to tell me that Mad Skillz is weak?...u mean to tell me that Bun B is not tight?...Lil Keke?...Yo Gotti?...cmon man...u cant tell me that Attic Crew isnt hard...u cant dare tell me that Swisha House arent taking over the south...and u mean to tell me that Paul Wall & Chamill arent good emcees?...ur a straight fool...dont even speak on the south if u dont know about it man...how u gonna dare say that Pastor Troy isnt better than Lil Flip?...Slim Thug?...E.S.G.?...man...cant believe u...
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lol so true...only good south artists: Flip and Scarface.....Luda is decent
lemme take u threw a trip of REAL south artists...not just dungeon family ::)
so u mean to tell me that Mad Skillz is weak?...u mean to tell me that Bun B is not tight?...Lil Keke?...Yo Gotti?...cmon man...u cant tell me that Attic Crew isnt hard...u cant dare tell me that Swisha House arent taking over the south...and u mean to tell me that Paul Wall & Chamill arent good emcees?...ur a straight fool...dont even speak on the south if u dont know about it man...how u gonna dare say that Pastor Troy isnt better than Lil Flip?...Slim Thug?...E.S.G.?...man...cant believe u...
Mad Skillz is from the south??? he's dope....Paul Wall & Chamill are decent....pastory troy sucks compared to flip, his undaground freestyles rip pastor.....
Andre 3000 and Big Boi ....are good, but extremely overrated...
theyre insaneley dope, but people rate them way too high on points of lyricsm....They both have nice and unique styles, but extremely overarted in lyrics
Lil Flip, Slillz, Scarface....and OutKast...i guess are untouchable in the south
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^^^Flips freestyles arent all that great...only reason hes the freestyle king is cuz he can freestyle for a long ass time...really he raps about the same exact shit the same exact way...in no way is he untouchable...theres alot of peeps who would smash him to pieces...Outkast would get served by UGK...i dont care what anyone says...Bun B would blaze Dre in a flash...oh and Free Pimp C!!!!
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^^^Flips freestyles arent all that great...only reason hes the freestyle king is cuz he can freestyle for a long ass time...really he raps about the same exact shit the same exact way...in no way is he untouchable...theres alot of peeps who would smash him to pieces...Outkast would get served by UGK...i dont care what anyone says...Bun B would blaze Dre in a flash...oh and Free Pimp C!!!!
ye Bun B is extremely underrated, but thats what im proving, OutKast is dope but extremely overrated....I havent heard enough of Bun B but i know he is dope
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yea ive been sayin that outkast is way too overrated...i used to be a big fan...but atliens, aquemini, stankonia...all those albums were crap...nothin close to classic...and the funniest thing to me is the dickriding dre gets....last year nobody regarded dre as a lyricist...but the moment eminem said "oh hes me favorite" everyone jumped on the bandwagon....thats real...and yall know it too
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but atliens, aquemini, stankonia...all those albums were crap...nothin close to classic...and the funniest thing to me is the dickriding dre gets....last year nobody regarded dre as a lyricist...but the moment eminem said "oh hes me favorite" everyone jumped on the bandwagon....thats real...and yall know it too
I could never comprehend you thinking these albums were crap, you might not feel them, but crap, wow. Aquemini is unreal, a classic, easily, and ATLiens is close to being in the same boat to me. I guess you just don't like anything that's popular.
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nah, they're just playing a little game, called "one up the guy before you". See, you post somebody, then the next guy goes "Oh, he's alright, but blah blah blah(insert obscure name that shows they know about southern rappers here) would BLAZE him" LOL
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^^^yea guy...u r so right ::)...Bun B & Lil Flip are really obscure...i dont think anyone has heard of them before.... ::)
I could never comprehend you thinking these albums were crap, you might not feel them, but crap, wow. Aquemini is unreal, a classic, easily, and ATLiens is close to being in the same boat to me. I guess you just don't like anything that's popular.
when i compare them to southernplayalistic...they are straight crap....they went from a player/street style to some bunk ass futuristic style...went from rockin everyday regular clothes to hot orange shag pants and shoulder pads ??? the hell is that all about
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everyone's entitled to their own opinion. if you don't like outkast thats your opinion. but if your beef with them is that they stayed innovative and tried new sounds with every album instead of staying stagnant and coming with the same shit over and over, more power to you. i love UGK. Lil flip ain't really my style. i do know this, my grandma could have rhymed toe to toe with him on "this is the way we ball. i can say that i haven't really ever came across anybody that called aquemini "crap". but then again its hard to respect someone else's musical taste when they disregard someone for what kind of clothes they wear as well as where they are from. whatever man
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everyone's entitled to their own opinion. if you don't like outkast thats your opinion. but if your beef with them is that they stayed innovative and tried new sounds with every album instead of staying stagnant and coming with the same shit over and over, more power to you. i love UGK. Lil flip ain't really my style. i do know this, my grandma could have rhymed toe to toe with him on "this is the way we ball. i can say that i haven't really ever came across anybody that called aquemini "crap". but then again its hard to respect someone else's musical taste when they disregard someone for what kind of clothes they wear as well as where they are from. whatever man
its one thing to be innovative...like knoc...hes innovative...usin "ahead of his time beats"...now...outkast went from usin southern styled beats...to some futurisitic shit in one album...more over...andre went from a smoothed out player to some odd ball....hence his clothes and other shit...and u just came across someone he calls Aquemini crap....
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to an extent i feel what SGV is sayin
ive recently got into Outkast heavily but Southernplayalisticcadillacmusic is easily their best album
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so if outkast (more accurately dre) wore jerseys, were iced out, had bitches in bikinis and fast cars you'd be ok with them. i'm interested to know how much of aquemini you've listened to. of course you're gonna say the whole thing, so no need to reply. and i do realize that you said it's crap, and so now i've heard someone call it crap. no need to point that out. but i'll point out once again that its hard to respect someone's musical taste when they base their opinion on how someone dresses and where they are from. my little sister bitches about what her favorite bands wear. maybe you could talk to her. here's a thought...open your mind
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i dont think what SGV said was he hates Outkast cuz they dress funny, SGV is one of the most knowledgable heads here....
he pointed out (correctly might i add) that Outkast totally switched their style after SPCM and an example of that is their clothes, they started dressing like clowns, and SGV doesnt like that, thats what i got out of his comments
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well thats great that you consider him a knowledgable person on this board. but if you think that adds credibility to him saying he doesn't like them cuz their from the south or because they changed their clothes, then you're mistaken. at least not with me. he's enititled to his opinion. and i understand him when he says that they switched up. but if he dislikes their MUSIC because of how they dress, then its hard to take him serious. peace
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well thats great that you consider him a knowledgable person on this board. but if you think that adds credibility to him saying he doesn't like them cuz their from the south or because they changed their clothes, then you're mistaken. at least not with me. he's enititled to his opinion. and i understand him when he says that they switched up. but if he dislikes their MUSIC because of how they dress, then its hard to take him serious. peace
what the fuck are u babling about foo?...u lookin real dumb...TECH hit it right on the head...someone with brains understands what im sayin...a moron like urself doesnt...where did i ever say i dont like the south?...i love the south dumbass...im one of the biggest south heads here...where in the fuck did that come from?...i dont like their music cuz to me the music is wack...beats are too futuristic for my taste...and to me they have changed way too much...especially dre with the odd ball clothing...and if dre went out and copped a bunch of jewels and nice cars i still wouldnt like him...cuz thats still wack...put it this way cat...u dont think i know whats crackin...thats fine...just know this...i own aquemini...i own atliens...i own southernplayalistic...the last time i listened to aquemini and atliens was when they first came out...ive never touched them since....southerplayalistic has and always will be their best album...beats, lyrics, concepts...it had it all...i understand u must be the majority aka the outkast fan...im in the minority...the disliker...if big boi went solo i wouldnt mind tho...he still got skills....
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woah ease up dog. i must have touched on a sensitive subject. no need to get personal and start dissin. now who's lookin like a fool?
back to the subject, if you have aquemini, i suggest you bump "west savannah" that song was meant to be on SPLCM but it didn't end up on the album. check out "slump", "da art of storytellin pt. 1" and "spottieottiedopalicious" straight classic songs.
but to say dre doesn't have skill anymore? damn. check this, goodie mob released soul food in 97 (but since your "one of the biggest south heads in here, i guess you already know). which was right before aquemini came out (1998) if you listen to "thought process" and hear dre rhyme, and still say he doesn't have skill then i don't know what else to say.
and i may be part of the majority for liking outkast. if thats wrong then i'll never be right. but realize that you are part of a majority (albeit a naive majority) that stereotypes people for how they look and what they wear. i hope you come out of it someday. you'll realize how much you've missed because of it. peace
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Well, I'm not a huge hiphop head, I just like good music. Outkast is good music. their first album, mighta been better in your tastes, but I've always like Aquemini better. So it's just your opinion, no big deal. I could care less what people wear, but whatever floats your boat... The first time I saw the video for "Players Ball" i was pretty surprised that Dre was just wearin' a t-shirt, lol, I wasn't a fan back in the day when that video dropped. If yall think Dre has lost it, your crazy. I thought he was hella dope even on Stankonia. Ms. Jackson is their biggest commercial song, and he was dope as hell on THAT.
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i never once said dre doesnt have skill...post where i said he doesnt have skill...dre does have skill...not as much as people say he does...but he has skill...i just think that big boi is the more talented out of the duo...and peep it...in hip hop theres many thinks i look at...music first...image second...his image is lame to me...just like people clown camron for rockin pink...its a wack look...and it further makes me dislike him more...now...i still wasnt completley against outkast after atliens or their spot on the soul food album...and hell i still like their spots on the slimm calhound & cool breeze records...but as a group...to me theyre wack now...just like goodie mob did...i think outkast should break up and go seperate ways...big boi is always outside the spotlight...when he deserves more...
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well lets see i'll quote your last line "if big boi went solo, i wouldn't mind tho...he still got skills" and you're contradicting yourself now. you said you listened to ATLiens when if first came out and haven't listened to it since, you also called it crap--crap compared to who? it sounds to me like you wrote them off. i just can't understand saying somebody's wack because of how they dress. image means shit when i listen to music. if its dope then i bump it, regardless of what the person looks like. peace
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holy shit i got a negative karma point since my last post..............
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well lets see i'll quote your last line "if big boi went solo, i wouldn't mind tho...he still got skills" and you're contradicting yourself now. you said you listened to ATLiens when if first came out and haven't listened to it since, you also called it crap--crap compared to who? it sounds to me like you wrote them off. i just can't understand saying somebody's wack because of how they dress. image means shit when i listen to music. if its dope then i bump it, regardless of what the person looks like. peace
how am i contradicting myself?...i just said big boi still has skill...i didnt once say dre didnt...did i?...no...u and i still havent listened to it since...and its crap compared to Southerplayalistic...that was the complete album...best beats...best rhymes...stankonia kinda brought my hopes up that they might go back to their old style...but it crushed it by the end of that album...now ur so damn stuck on the clothes...lemme splain it to u one more time...S-L-O-W-L-Y...i grew accustom to seein the laid back clothing of outkast of old...when i saw those loud ass colors and strange furry things dre was wearin i almost flipped out...he looked like a complete fool...to me his image was lame and it was taking away from the credibility of outkast...i couldnt take a guy runnin around in suspenders and football pads serious anymore...oh and not to mention...after i seen outkast live...i could not stand them anymore...that had to be one of the worst shows ever...
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you said "he still got skills" implying that dre doesn't. don't say you weren't. it's ok i'll let it go. and you're the one concerned with clothes. you said image is your SECOND most important thing when you look at a group. if you were that stunned about dre, i can only imagine the look on your face after you saw 8ball and MJG in their video for buck bounce. i bet you shit your pants.
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you said "he still got skills" implying that dre doesn't. don't say you weren't. it's ok i'll let it go. and you're the one concerned with clothes. you said image is your SECOND most important thing when you look at a group. if you were that stunned about dre, i can only imagine the look on your face after you saw 8ball and MJG in their video for buck bounce. i bet you shit your pants.
u mustve took it that way...i would never go out and say..."dre has absolutely has no skills" cuz he does...hes just not on daddy fats saks' level...and i had no clue about that buck bounce video...that shit was a tight song...but that video was weird as fuck...Pimp Hard was much better
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well with that then you've just proven my point. you admit the song was tight. in the video 8ball's big ol' ass is in this whole robot attire. he looks straight out of terminator 2. so i'm guessin you're gonna have to quit bumpin them cuz of how they dressed for that video huh.
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well with that then you've just proven my point. you admit the song was tight. in the video 8ball's big ol' ass is in this whole robot attire. he looks straight out of terminator 2. so i'm guessin you're gonna have to quit bumpin them cuz of how they dressed for that video huh.
that was one video...its not like i see them everywhere rockin that shit...it was for the video...but dre wears that shit all the time...so uh...to answer ur question...no...
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so whats your limit then? if they did 2 videos like that would you care? you're really starting to dig a hole here.
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Naw.. it's understandable
I know a couple a people who dont like that about Dre.ESPECIALLY tha people who were down with Outkast before ATLiens. People might see it as a gimmick. Which makes it feel not as real as it used to be...
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so whats your limit then? if they did 2 videos like that would you care? you're really starting to dig a hole here.
man...are u blind?...i said DRE dresses like that all the time...even in public...ball n g did it for ONE video...ur just diggin ur self deeper man...bringin up more and more shit that u cant even make valid points one...just shut up and move on
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well i'm not gonna even front. the first outkast cd i bought was ATLIENS, then SPLCM. but after hearing SPLCM, it made me appreciate atliens even more. and from the beginning i've said that i understand people sayin that they changed their style. they did, but i think they have still stayed true to themselves. on aquemini there were only a few songs that were futuristic sounding, and a lot of songs that were consistent with their old style. everyone is entitled to their opinion on music. i just said that its hard to respect someones opinion on music when that opinion is based on what someone looks like. he said he couldn't take seeing dre dressing how he was. then in the other thread he said 8ball and MJG were better (which i can understand) but they did the exact same thing in their video AFTER outkast. so basically he was contradicting himself. then it got to even more outrageous statements like the clipse were better than outkast, which really tests the validity of any of his prior statements.
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holy shit!! you mean to tell me he dresses like that in PUBLIC?!? why didn't you say that in the first place? to dress like that in a video is one thing, but this is obviously going to far.(runs upstairs and proceeds to burn all outkast cd's)
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jesus...why are people so dumb? ??? guy...listen...i know it must be hard for u to understand...BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT LIKE OUTKAST...GET OVER IT...like i said its one thing to dress up in a video with oddball clothes...but how am i gonna take a guy who dresses like a fuckin hobo 24/7 serious?...and the Clipse are better emcees...period...u dont think so...fine...i do...u dont think i got cred thats fine too...i really could careless what u think about me...cuz at the end of the day...u dont know me...i dont even gotta say it...people will tell u here that i got knowledge...but its all good....just like the pac and nas fans...i guess outkast fans get all hurt and wanna fight to the death when a person whos not a fan talks shit....
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dear god: i know i don't pray often, but i'm praying now. let this dude hear me out once and for all. thank you.
I never once had a problem with anyone disliking any group whatsoever. EVERYONE HAS THEIR OPINION. but i find it amusing and somewhat scary that someone would base their musical opinion on what someone looks like/dresses like. that was my point, and i felt like you were being hypocritical. and relax, i believe you have lots of knowledge when it comes to hip-hop. i think i can sum it up by saying it doesn't matter to me what someone looks like. if its dope i buy it. i could give a fuck about their image. IMO thats not what makes a musician.
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u make it seem like the first thing i look at is their image...which is the complete opposite...of course i listen to the music first...then i worry about their image...its like if i hear this guy talkin all this crip shit...then i see him rockin nothin but red...i aint gonna take him serious...it may be scary or whatever but fuck it...everyone has their own ways of lookin at shit....
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well in my opinion, image is what fucks music up in the first place. ESPECIALLY HIP HOP. i think if more rappers were more concerned about lyrics/production rather than if people are going to judge them for what they are wearing, their music wouldn't suffer as much. people need to decide if they want dope music or if they want rappers to dress in a way that pleases them. i'm not trying to say you don't put music first. you stated that very clearly. but you also said that the second most important thing you judge them by is their image. i don't see how what someone wears can make your opinion of their MUSIC. peace
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ok lemme tell u in plain english...ill give u examples...i take music serious...cuz thats my main passion...so now...example: u go to a job interview for a big corporation...the guy interviewing u has on shorts and a t-shirt...are u gonna take him serious?...i wouldnt...thats kinda like outkast...i hear em rappin then i see em and i dont take dre serious...he looks like hes just out to get attention...
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ok now let me explain. i totally understand what you are sayin. you can't take them serious because they (%95 of the time dre) dress differently. and with your comparison of applying for your job does not apply at all with this conversation. appearance counts like a motherfucker in applying for a job. it shows how serious you are about the job. i don't look for someones appearance when i decide whether to bump their music. when i'm bumpin in my truck i'm not thinking to myself, "shit i wonder what they're wearing right now". to deny someone's musical skill/talent because of what they wear is ignorant. i can understand you not feeling a particular artist, it may not be your taste. i'm totally fine with that. but if their image plays a big enough role on whether or not you're going to denounce them as musicians, then its hard for someone like me who looks strictly at the music to totally respect that viewpoint. its like when you say you don't like a song-in my mind i'm gonna think, well he may not be basing it on the music. peace
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LMAO...its not like im sitting there thinkin to myself: hmm i wonder what snoops wearin right now?...u must got the misconception...the music is the music...and if i dont the like the music first then thats that...and with outkast that is the situation...but dres clothing just adds fire to the flame...cuz like i said...how can i take him serious dressed like that?...but again...its not like im sittin listening to my jayo felony cd sayin: hmm i wonder if jayo has on blue chucks right now?...