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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Sir Petey on June 24, 2010, 04:40:37 PM
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AllHipHop.com: On page 10 of [the Gospel of Hip Hop], you write: “…many have forgotten the love of GOD. Desperate and impoverished and suddenly propelled to the top of the World’s social circles, they marvel at the effects of their own artistic skills caring little for the cause of such skills; they just want to eat.” What’s your take on this current state of rap music and rappers that proclaim themselves to be “the best rapper alive”? Do you think their comments are misguided?
KRS-One: You’re so right in this way, but let me just tell you how I deal with it in this sense. There is good in all of this. Let me criticize, first. First, the statement that you read in the Gospel, that was said with the spirit of not so much a judgment, but an observation as to the state of hip hop right now. These dudes don’t know where their food comes from. And it’s really for them to read this themselves. This message will get to them in some way, shape or form, that you don’t know how to do what you are doing, so you’re doing of it is temporary. And this is what the Gospel of Hip Hop lays out — it’s actually saving their lives and their necks as well, because deep down inside, if you really want to get money, and you say, “I really want to get this cash.” If you really want to get this cash, you can’t act like the way a lot of these dudes act.
It’s impossible in real life. You can’t do it. So, to be on a TV or radio or Internet, and you say, “I’m the best rapper alive. I’m the greatest alive,” they don’t realize that you’re bringing that onto yourself. We already learned that if you say you’re criminal-minded, that you are going to attract criminal-minded activities to you. We learned the hard way that lesson. Bad Boy learned the lesson. Look at Ready to Die. If you’re going to put a record out that says you’re ready to die, well come on, man, this is what it is. So at the end of the day, these guys are going to probably have to learn the same lesson again, and the lesson is, “I’m the greatest. I’m the best. I’m the this.” Well the greatest and the best is also socially responsible. I do believe that. It’s just that a lot of these guys are young, and it is right to say you are the best.
AllHipHop.com: OK.
KRS-One: But here’s my second part to this. It is right to say you are the best. In hip hop, you’ve got to say that. That’s how you’ve got to come off, otherwise you’re a punk, and you have no right to rap at all. You have to step up, “I’m the best.” But then you find yourself in a club with KRS one night. It’s industry night. Or maybe it’s not. Maybe it’s somewhere where real dudes are in getting it in. And you may have the hottest record on radio, or on the Internet, you may be selling millions of CDs, but I tell you the truth. I’ve been around since ’77, but professionally twenty-three years since Criminal Minded [repped] South Bronx. In those twenty years, I’ve seen dudes with platinum s**t, crazy, all over the place. That means nothing when you step before the people.
Now, if you say, “I’m the best,” then be the best. That means you say it, that’s why I’m on my way, that’s why I’m on my way to be the best. But then with hip hop, see, hip hop tests you. Now that don’t mean you in the club and say, “I’m the best,” but then you never in the club. Or you say, “I’m the best,” but you never really where dudes are spittin'. And I be where cats be spittin’ that. I be in the battles. I be at the Lion’s Den up in Harlem. What I’m pointing out is that these guys have the right to say whatever they want in their fantasyland. In a poetic sense, they have the right to say whatever they want. Freedom of speech. We live in a free country. However, at some point you’re going to meet Supernatural in the club. And you’re going to be embarrassed. I’m not fronting. You’re going to be embarrassed, and it happens over and over.
AllHipHop.com: I can only imagine! [laughing]
KRS-One: I can’t tell you the list that I’ve embarrassed. I wasn’t even trying to, because I’m not that type to try and show somebody up. I come in humble, but I’m going to do me. I come in there, I’m doing me, and these cats can’t even take it. Platinum dudes, they won’t want to go on after KRS. They don’t want me in the building. They don’t call me for tours. None of that. You know, I was the host of Rock the Bells. Cats was getting it in. In, in, in. We was getting it in. I bought some Hulk gloves and went to work. Crazy. But you don’t think they see that? These kids see that, too, these rappers that are claiming to be the best at this and the best of that. They know, really, what it is, and they have to say that really.
Let me say this. I do have an aura of elitism, that I am the best. But I would never irresponsibly run around yelling – “I’m the best!” – the way we’re hearing it come across. “You’ve done nothing. You’ve only been on the scene two years, if that. You have one record, and you’re claiming king,” and all of this. No doubt, that’s poor. But what it also says, though, is it’s ignorant. If you can get past the criticism real quick – because it’s wack – when people do that: you claiming the best but you’re not. You claim mastery, but you’re not a master. You haven’t mastered your craft, yet. Slow down. But that’s the problem with the young’n’. See the young’n’ always has that problem. I had that problem, too. But I had to learn to control my arrogance.
AllHipHop.com: As the old saying goes: “Heavy is the head that wears the crown!”
KRS-One: Definitely. I feel for Kanye. I feel for Drake. I feel for these guys who do have to wear their career on their shoulder, on their chest, to make everybody know they’re the best, because it’s brutal out there. It really is. When I was coming up, I had Melle Mel on my back. I mean, imagine that s**t. I mean, I would not be who I was if it wasn’t for Melle Mel. Let’s just start right there. That it’s. Melle Mel. That’s me, KRS-One, straight up and down. And here now, I’ve got to actually stomach the fact that this dude wants to battle me, live at the Latin Quarter, because I am saying: “I’m taking all comers. I’m from the Bronx. And I’m starting with Bronx MCs.” So Melle Mel took offense, and was like, “No, you ain’t the best around here. Melle Mel is.” And I said, “Oh, no. You’re finished.” And the battle, it went on. And I came out victorious, and a lot of people saw it. And that’s what it was. But that don’t mean you run around, still saying you’re the best. To this day, I still give Melle Mel reverence, saying to you what Marley Marl, the late Mr. Magic, everybody that I battled in that sense. But you’ve got to have some sportsmanship about yourself. And that’s what a lot of people are not really exercising – is the sportsmanship to the whole thing. If you are the best, then you are just the best. That’s it. You don’t yell it. You don’t say it. You don’t have to say it. Your skill is going to show the world who the best is.
AllHipHop.com: Well, humility is a trait that is often hard to come by! [laughing]
KRS-One: True! [laughing] But it is good to be in a community where all the artists think they’re the best. That’s a good thing. It’s a brutal thing, because there can only really be one. So there is a process of elimination, no doubt. But hip hop is vast enough where if you ain’t talkin’ that s**t, then ain’t nobody coming at you like that. But if you want to step into the arena, and how you step into the arena is by saying “I’m the best over all of you.” “Oh, well now let’s put that to the test. Let’s see if that’s really what it is.” And I’m that dude. I’m that dude right there who walks around with no other purpose than to put that claim to the test. Sometimes it’s not even my words. It’s just my presence.
When I walk in a building, or walk into a party — I be at these industry parties when I get a chance. And I see how people move. I see how the room moves around, like, “Oh, s**t, KRS is here.” And I’m like, “Yeah, KRS is here, what? You thought it was going to be fake all night?” You know how many cats say that and can’t look me in the eye. And on the flip side. I’ll tell you a real story about Wayne. Real Wayne. I like his style. I think Wayne is bussin’ off at you as an MC. I haven’t seen his show, so I’m reluctant to call him an MC.
AllHipHop.com: Why is that?
KRS-One: I mean, I’ve seen his show, and he was just getting money. I haven’t really seen him in his element, like going in, hungry and off-stage, to call him an MC-MC. But I like his metaphors. I like how he puts his words together, for the style in which he’s coming with. Now he claims the best, too.
AllHipHop.com: Oh, yes, Wayne definitely thinks he is the best rapper alive or dead! [laughing]
KRS-One: I remember the BET Hip Hop Awards, when I was there to get my Lifetime Achievement Award. Right in the wings, Wayne was like, “Yo. The Teacha.” And I’m like, “Yo, don’t even start.” So I give him a pound, and I say, “Let me tell you something. You are the number one MC today.” He said, “Yo, don’t f**k with me, Kris. Don’t say that s**t, man. Don’t f**k with me.” Coming from you? Don’t f**k with me.” Everybody was staring around – like a hundred people. And he’s like, “Don’t f**k with me, man.” I told him: “Stay focused. Don’t get distracted. Don’t get with that bulls**t. You are the number one MC. Stay focused. Take hip hop with you.” Everybody clapped. The s**t was ridiculous. He broke down into tears. It was ridiculous.
Somebody got it on film, somewhere. Cameras were all over the place. I was just telling him, “You the number one. You the number one.” But the point is: he took that s**t seriously. And I said it seriously and he took it like, “Wow. KRS-One validated my whole s**t right now. Oh, s**t.” And he was waiting for that. He was looking for that. He could always pop that yang, he could always say, “Yeah, I’m the best, and I’m selling . . .” But there’s a part in his soul that wants Africa Bambaataa to come by and shake his hand. There’s a part of his soul that wants to be accepted by Chuck D or have a KRS come over. All them dudes from 50 on down — everybody — and I’m saying it because I’m living it — this ain’t gossip. I’m living these things. These dudes are coming to me with real questions about their lives: this, that and the other. I probably need a reality show. I need to stop bulls**tting and go get a reality show so that people can really see.
AllHipHop.com: Why don’t you give Viacom a call?!? [laughing]
KRS-One: Man, I should! [laughing] I’ll just be walking down the street and run into somebody — an artist, an executive, somebody you knew or something like that, and they be like, “Yo, let me tell you, man. It’s like this. It’s like that.” It’s not always tad and bad news. A lot of times cats be like, “Yo, I just got blessed crazy. I’m on my way here, here and here.” It’s not always death and destruction in hip hop. It’s not always, “Yo, ni**a, what’s up? We beefin’.” Hip hop got a lot of love in it. Cats are exchanging information, resources. People are getting together.
I just got a new album from Masta Ace and Ed O.G, and that s**t is kind of hot. I also say it because I’m on it! [laughing] But Masta Ace slid off. I did some eight bar thing for him some months ago, and he gave it to me. He said, “Look. It’s finished. Here listen to it. Tell me what you think.” So I listen to the whole album. The whole album was good. I was like: “Damn, listen to Ace. Listen to Ed O.G, man.” These cats, they doing it, and you can only do it for love, now. You can get a little money, no doubt. There’s still money out there to get. But not no more selling no CD. You’ll get a little something. But really, if you ain’t doing it really for the love of it right now, you not really doing it. You can’t really do it. And it’s funny how the universe works that out. The cats that did it for the money, now, can’t do hip hop, because there’s no money in rap music.
AllHipHop.com: Well, I guess you can say that Mother Nature ran her course and let all of the genuine MCs persevere! [laughing]
KRS-One: True! [laughing] But the money in rap music is getting smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller, and everybody’s running to movies and fashion lines and restaurants and whatever other entrepreneurial thing they could come up with, but nobody’s really thinking about hip hop. See, the Gospel talks about that, too, about how we drove the car far and now we need to gas up again. And everybody’s just saying, “Up. We’re here. Let’s get out of the car, and leave the car because we’re here now. We drove the car. We have corporations. We’re in everything, now. Hip hop is everything.” So that’s it, now f**k hip hop. It just fades away. No! Not on KRS on watch. So this is where the Gospel comes to us because we’re saying, “No. More than ever now, let’s decide who is hip hop and who really isn’t.”
And not me saying, “This is hip hop and this isn’t.” But you will say to yourself, “I love this culture. I ain't part of this bulls**t.” And f**k, with your own mouth, you say, “Boom. I’m not down.” But if you are down, with your own mouth, you don’t say, “Yo, I am hip hop. This is me. I’m this. I feel this. This is what I’m about. This is what I’m going to eat off of. This is how I’m going to define myself.” And that’s what we’re really putting forward. I think it’s a brilliant time, really, for it. It’s a brilliant time to do it. It’s the right time to do it. Do you realize that the Gospel of Hip Hop, even though I stay away from the term religion, is really defining culture? Your culture is your religion, and your religion is your culture, in that sense. What you live daily is your religion, is your culture. I live hip hop daily, and millions of other people do, too. So it can be called our religion.
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honestly tho... KRS gets my respect no doubt but KRS ain't shit. that don't got nothin 2 do with what he raps about or none of that positivity he preaches, he's just corny. He had his run in the 80's and his "og"izm in the early(early) 90's but that was it. dude be soundin mad cocky talkin about this and that... son nobody cares except maybe these old (old) heads that'r pushin 40 and 50, stop tryna act like you're still that relevant to tha game. yeah u might be on some Dr. J shit when it comes to tha game but there has been 1 too many to do it better (QTip for example, Ice Cube for example), let's not get 2 actin' like KRS stood the test of time. When DeathRow came in on tha scene niggaz was like KRS-Who and not 1 nigga.
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honestly tho... KRS gets my respect no doubt but KRS ain't shit. that don't got nothin 2 do with what he raps about or none of that positivity he preaches, he's just corny. He had his run in the 80's and his "og"izm in the early(early) 90's but that was it. dude be soundin mad cocky talkin about this and that... son nobody cares except maybe these old (old) heads that'r pushin 40 and 50, stop tryna act like you're still that relevant to tha game. yeah u might be on some Dr. J shit when it comes to tha game but there has been 1 too many to do it better (QTip for example, Ice Cube for example), let's not get 2 actin' like KRS stood the test of time. When DeathRow came in on tha scene niggaz was like KRS-Who and not 1 nigga.
I'm 27 and that interview really brought out the MC and hiphop fan in me. You may be too young to get it at this time, he's speaking on some grown man shit. This is no offense to you, because at a time I may have been like Fuck KRS too, but fortunately i'm at a point in my life where i can understand where he's coming from.
AlerG
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he does come off real self righteous but hes one of the few pioneers who can still rip a mic and still practices his craft...I met dude in 2001 and he was real cool.
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Krs is a complicated person but he can still spit so keep bringin it kris
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KRS One spits some wisdom, but he also talks a lot of bullshit. Just cause he self-appointed himself the teacher of hip hop doesn't mean you should listen to everything he says.
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honestly tho... KRS gets my respect no doubt but KRS ain't shit. that don't got nothin 2 do with what he raps about or none of that positivity he preaches, he's just corny. He had his run in the 80's and his "og"izm in the early(early) 90's but that was it. dude be soundin mad cocky talkin about this and that... son nobody cares except maybe these old (old) heads that'r pushin 40 and 50, stop tryna act like you're still that relevant to tha game. yeah u might be on some Dr. J shit when it comes to tha game but there has been 1 too many to do it better (QTip for example, Ice Cube for example), let's not get 2 actin' like KRS stood the test of time. When DeathRow came in on tha scene niggaz was like KRS-Who and not 1 nigga.
homie u read the artical,and just missed the whole fucking point..why would u just talk crazy out your ass like that?..we all love hiphop,and u just shit on it.with some foolishness..wake up cuzz.....ps: get that fucking racist monkey out your sig...its distracting to any real black person.
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^^^lmao! if it offendz u then don't let it. what am i supposed 2 care. i am a greedy nigga boy who wants all the money in the world, u damn right.
look i like KRS1 and what he stands 4 but I'm not gonna sit here and be "educated" every single time the man opens his mouth, he can save that shit for Sunday School... better yet why doesn't he go 2 tha worst high school in the US and become the Principal (real talk) if he wants to educate the uneducated.
Like i said, i respect my man but everytime he opens his mouth it's like blah blah blah and i know more than u about hiphop bcuz i'm KRS1 and I was a pioneer, u don't hear the homie Run blastin off about dumb shit everytime (whenever that is lol) about the generation. krs just gets old with that "lettme huff and puff and show these yung punks wassup" type shit, i think he's still a little bitter about what happend 2 his son that's all.
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i can care less what anybody says, to me this is the greatest mc in HIP HOP of all time,from all the elements,i can give a fucc about the corporate shit,and if you are a fan why does that mean something to you anyway you ain't getting paid off the shit unless you are bootlegging it, even when this equal dissed my idol tho i didn't think his song was better i still kept it networth and admitted it was knot, and i would rather hear him talk then these new equals who only think about the chipper jones who also let some craccer or jew tell them whats hot, this guy is an icon in hip hop,yet most of these fans today would rather let jimmy iovine butt fucc them then hear him speak smh @ alot of these new lames, thanks for post'n petey yell
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someone has too high of an opinion of their self
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whether you like him or not he does make some sense in what he says
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i can care less what anybody says, to me this is the greatest mc in HIP HOP of all time,from all the elements,i can give a fucc about the corporate shit,and if you are a fan why does that mean something to you anyway you ain't getting paid off the shit unless you are bootlegging it, even when this equal dissed my idol tho i didn't think his song was better i still kept it networth and admitted it was knot, and i would rather hear him talk then these new equals who only think about the chipper jones who also let some craccer or jew tell them whats hot, this guy is an icon in hip hop,yet most of these fans today would rather let jimmy iovine butt fucc them then hear him speak smh @ alot of these new lames, thanks for post'n petey yell
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but i don't think there's anybody in the world who let's a corporation (or Jimmy Iovine in this matter) decide what's hot. Singles r 1 thing but tha album is pretty much all up to tha artist unless that artist iz strickly 4 profit purposes (like The Shop Boyz or somethin).
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look i like KRS1 and what he stands 4 but I'm not gonna sit here and be "educated" every single time the man opens his mouth, he can save that shit for Sunday School... better yet why doesn't he go 2 tha worst high school in the US and become the Principal (real talk) if he wants to educate the uneducated.
What good would becoming the prinicipal of a terrible high school accomplish, really?
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look i like KRS1 and what he stands 4 but I'm not gonna sit here and be "educated" every single time the man opens his mouth, he can save that shit for Sunday School... better yet why doesn't he go 2 tha worst high school in the US and become the Principal (real talk) if he wants to educate the uneducated.
What good would becoming the prinicipal of a terrible high school accomplish, really?
more than what he's doing trying 2 educate the world i'll tell u that. it would show that the man iz real about what he sayz and not just using "peace, love, education, unity, and equality" as a crutch. plus it would show him if niggaz iz really listening 2 what he's saying or not lol.
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^^^lmao! if it offendz u then don't let it. what am i supposed 2 care. i am a greedy nigga boy who wants all the money in the world, u damn right.
look i like KRS1 and what he stands 4 but I'm not gonna sit here and be "educated" every single time the man opens his mouth, he can save that shit for Sunday School... better yet why doesn't he go 2 tha worst high school in the US and become the Principal (real talk) if he wants to educate the uneducated.
Like i said, i respect my man but everytime he opens his mouth it's like blah blah blah and i know more than u about hiphop bcuz i'm KRS1 and I was a pioneer, u don't hear the homie Run blastin off about dumb shit everytime (whenever that is lol) about the generation. krs just gets old with that "lettme huff and puff and show these yung punks wassup" type shit, i think he's still a little bitter about what happend 2 his son that's all.
Did you even read the interview?
Usually when you agree with someone, you don't rip on them..
Are you disagreeing with most of the shit he said in the interview? If you're not, appreciate the dude's opinion and stop hating.
KRS ONE INTERVIEWS > ANY INTERVIEW BY LIL WAYNE, KANYE WEST, ETC.
And it's not an old thing, it's a mindstate. And sometime's you gotta get old before you fall into that mindstate.
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^^^lmao! if it offendz u then don't let it. what am i supposed 2 care. i am a greedy nigga boy who wants all the money in the world, u damn right.
look i like KRS1 and what he stands 4 but I'm not gonna sit here and be "educated" every single time the man opens his mouth, he can save that shit for Sunday School... better yet why doesn't he go 2 tha worst high school in the US and become the Principal (real talk) if he wants to educate the uneducated.
Like i said, i respect my man but everytime he opens his mouth it's like blah blah blah and i know more than u about hiphop bcuz i'm KRS1 and I was a pioneer, u don't hear the homie Run blastin off about dumb shit everytime (whenever that is lol) about the generation. krs just gets old with that "lettme huff and puff and show these yung punks wassup" type shit, i think he's still a little bitter about what happend 2 his son that's all.
Did you even read the interview?
Usually when you agree with someone, you don't rip on them..
Are you disagreeing with most of the shit he said in the interview? If you're not, appreciate the dude's opinion and stop hating.
KRS ONE INTERVIEWS > ANY INTERVIEW BY LIL WAYNE, KANYE WEST, ETC.
And it's not an old thing, it's a mindstate. And sometime's you gotta get old before you fall into that mindstate.
i feel u but in every1 of his interviews he's always ranting and throwing out big names 4 attention so people can associate his name with the current stars of the game. it's like he's tryna get promo off of talking about the celebrities of the game rather than other shit.
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i can care less what anybody says, to me this is the greatest mc in HIP HOP of all time,from all the elements,i can give a fucc about the corporate shit,and if you are a fan why does that mean something to you anyway you ain't getting paid off the shit unless you are bootlegging it, even when this equal dissed my idol tho i didn't think his song was better i still kept it networth and admitted it was knot, and i would rather hear him talk then these new equals who only think about the chipper jones who also let some craccer or jew tell them whats hot, this guy is an icon in hip hop,yet most of these fans today would rather let jimmy iovine butt fucc them then hear him speak smh @ alot of these new lames, thanks for post'n petey yell
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but i don't think there's anybody in the world who let's a corporation (or Jimmy Iovine in this matter) decide what's hot. Singles r 1 thing but tha album is pretty much all up to tha artist unless that artist iz strickly 4 profit purposes (like The Shop Boyz or somethin).
ay you would be surprised by what these new artist would do to please they "massa's", before he cracc'd a "whip" on em to act right
now he just got to put em in a expensive rental "whip" and they'll do what ever he likes yell
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i can care less what anybody says, to me this is the greatest mc in HIP HOP of all time,from all the elements,i can give a fucc about the corporate shit,and if you are a fan why does that mean something to you anyway you ain't getting paid off the shit unless you are bootlegging it, even when this equal dissed my idol tho i didn't think his song was better i still kept it networth and admitted it was knot, and i would rather hear him talk then these new equals who only think about the chipper jones who also let some craccer or jew tell them whats hot, this guy is an icon in hip hop,yet most of these fans today would rather let jimmy iovine butt fucc them then hear him speak smh @ alot of these new lames, thanks for post'n petey yell
Respect
but i don't think there's anybody in the world who let's a corporation (or Jimmy Iovine in this matter) decide what's hot. Singles r 1 thing but tha album is pretty much all up to tha artist unless that artist iz strickly 4 profit purposes (like The Shop Boyz or somethin).
ay you would be surprised by what these new artist would do to please they "massa's", before he cracc'd a "whip" on em to act right
now he just got to put em in a expensive rental "whip" and they'll do what ever he likes yell
doesn't everybody want respect from their elders. it really don't mean shit, i'm just talking about the person
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Everywhere i go...he wants 2 school wayne tpain etc..so this is his school
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i can care less what anybody says, to me this is the greatest mc in HIP HOP of all time,from all the elements,i can give a fucc about the corporate shit,and if you are a fan why does that mean something to you anyway you ain't getting paid off the shit unless you are bootlegging it, even when this equal dissed my idol tho i didn't think his song was better i still kept it networth and admitted it was knot, and i would rather hear him talk then these new equals who only think about the chipper jones who also let some craccer or jew tell them whats hot, this guy is an icon in hip hop,yet most of these fans today would rather let jimmy iovine butt fucc them then hear him speak smh @ alot of these new lames, thanks for post'n petey yell
Respect
but i don't think there's anybody in the world who let's a corporation (or Jimmy Iovine in this matter) decide what's hot. Singles r 1 thing but tha album is pretty much all up to tha artist unless that artist iz strickly 4 profit purposes (like The Shop Boyz or somethin).
ay you would be surprised by what these new artist would do to please they "massa's", before he cracc'd a "whip" on em to act right
now he just got to put em in a expensive rental "whip" and they'll do what ever he likes yell
doesn't everybody want respect from their elders. it really don't mean shit, i'm just talking about the person
it's different i'm talking about your boss that white man or that jew who dictates to you what you should say tho he never lived the life himself/herself, respecting your elders is cool but if they ain't lived it they should shut the fucc up it's that simple yell
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it's different i'm talking about your boss that white man or that jew who dictates to you what you should say tho he never lived the life himself/herself, respecting your elders is cool but if they ain't lived it they should shut the fucc up it's that simple yell
why do people assume EVERY rapper that grew up 2 be a PopStar is fake or never lived that life and every rapper that hasn't reached that status is way more authentic and has lived that life? see it's 1 thing to give constructive critisizm or speak your mind but making a living off of that bcuz you're not who you once used 2 be is another and that's what KRS1 has been doing 4 tha longest. It's like son just drop a hot record and shut tha fuck up and MAKE everybody shut tha fuck up and respect you like that again. He keeps trying 2 pull out his OG Pass and use it but it's like son, do something.
Even old headz gotta show they ass out here every once in a while, whether they cake up big and buy a new bangin ass ride or house or get drunk at a bar and stomp tha shit outta some nigga (prefferibly younger than him IMO) and show everybody he's still king of the jungle, show everybody he's still top dogg and cant nobody fuck wit him. KRS1 ain't doin that, that's why he tried 2 check Wayne b4 Wayne was gonna wreck that azz or make him look like an old fart, KRS ain't stupid, he knew what waz about 2 happen if he didn't try 2 handle the situation and all Wayne did was show his respect but really he was going to get in that azz a little and pull his card but obviously Wayne ain't disrespectful like that.
When KRS1 does something relevant to today that blows up whether it's a song, organization/charity, whatever and that shit really jumps off and bcomez household then KRS can act like he's acting now, other than that dude needs to shut tha fuck up and do his thing (whatever that iz). Like i said, u don't see Run tryna pull anybody's card or call out namez for attention (and they pretty much on tha same status even tho RunDMC got a little more pull). It's really some sucker shit foreal. What about the niggas he's supposidly sonnin back around tha way or in his everyday life, y is he always callin out tha big names... shit is just corny foreal. He knew what people were gonna talk about when he did this interview.
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it's different i'm talking about your boss that white man or that jew who dictates to you what you should say tho he never lived the life himself/herself, respecting your elders is cool but if they ain't lived it they should shut the fucc up it's that simple yell
why do people assume EVERY rapper that grew up 2 be a PopStar is fake or never lived that life and every rapper that hasn't reached that status is way more authentic and has lived that life? see it's 1 thing to give constructive critisizm or speak your mind but making a living off of that bcuz you're not who you once used 2 be is another and that's what KRS1 has been doing 4 tha longest. It's like son just drop a hot record and shut tha fuck up and MAKE everybody shut tha fuck up and respect you like that again. He keeps trying 2 pull out his OG Pass and use it but it's like son, do something.
Even old headz gotta show they ass out here every once in a while, whether they cake up big and buy a new bangin ass ride or house or get drunk at a bar and stomp tha shit outta some nigga (prefferibly younger than him IMO) and show everybody he's still king of the jungle, show everybody he's still top dogg and cant nobody fuck wit him. KRS1 ain't doin that, that's why he tried 2 check Wayne b4 Wayne was gonna wreck that azz or make him look like an old fart, KRS ain't stupid, he knew what waz about 2 happen if he didn't try 2 handle the situation and all Wayne did was show his respect but really he was going to get in that azz a little and pull his card but obviously Wayne ain't disrespectful like that.
When KRS1 does something relevant to today that blows up whether it's a song, organization/charity, whatever and that shit really jumps off and bcomez household then KRS can act like he's acting now, other than that dude needs to shut tha fuck up and do his thing (whatever that iz). Like i said, u don't see Run tryna pull anybody's card or call out namez for attention (and they pretty much on tha same status even tho RunDMC got a little more pull). It's really some sucker shit foreal. What about the niggas he's supposidly sonnin back around tha way or in his everyday life, y is he always callin out tha big names... shit is just corny foreal. He knew what people were gonna talk about when he did this interview.
you totally missed my point about what artist would do to please they massa's, i stepped away from krs with it,saying these artist will succ dicc and give up they ass just to be in the lime light today, and why be under a white man or a jew when you started this shit? it all comes down to leader ship,follow the jayz model and get paid well for a nigga and feel you made it, the benchmark for these rappers today is a fucc'n bently instead of control of they own destiny.
bacc to krs he will always be looked at as a legend by those who are "really" down with the culture, may not mean nothing from mainstream perspective but to those who live it,it means alot, i'd never bow down to kris but i would always give him his just due and way more then run anyday yell
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I actually agree with a lot of what radiotube is saying. Respect the man for his legacy and his contributions to hip hop, doesn't mean you have to respect everything that comes out of his mouth nowadays. He's really not any more qualified to speak on hip hop than any other of the OGs, even though he pretends like he is.
Anyway, it ain't like he's a saint. KRS-One is partially to blame for the whole gangstafied posturing that exists nowadays. What he did to P.M. Dawn was fucked up. This is an interesting read: http://www.unkut.com/2006/08/krs-one-hip-hop-sucks-because-of-you/
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man y'all forgetting that this man was involved in all stages of hip hop,yall just keep thinking "rapping" it's so much more then that, this guy goes and speaks about the aspects of the cultures all over,and alot of the "OG'S" have not done that, he's not selling his ass just for the money, and like he said when he was claiming he was the best he had to battle the known best at the time melle mell LIVE! none of that for tv and radio awareness bullshit but networth hip hop style and he won! the same way fans cream they pants over nas besting jayz in a battle is what he did to mell before the mainstream hype,but since muthafuccas wasn't down with hip hop in those times (or wasn't born) they want to act like it's nothing, i mean he spear headed one of the greatest collabs in the history of hip hop SELF DESTRUCTION! yeah i too agree that throwing pm dawn off the stage was a bully move and i know he wouldn't have done that shit to say a freedom williams or turbo b,but he felt dude wasn't do no favors for hip hop so he tossed his fat ass off stage hahaha, for the record pm dawn had a couple of dope songs and beats. but i think if someone did this to some rappers yall don't like now yall would cheer the shit be honest about it. and also if you are turned off by his arrogance you don't have to believe and sit through everything he says,cause in reality he's extremely long winded hahah,but bottom line until someone does more for the culture (and i ain't talking bout that bullshit jayz does) you can't put them over this equal it's that simple,and he is not even my favorite but i got to keep it networth yell
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it's different i'm talking about your boss that white man or that jew who dictates to you what you should say tho he never lived the life himself/herself, respecting your elders is cool but if they ain't lived it they should shut the fucc up it's that simple yell
why do people assume EVERY rapper that grew up 2 be a PopStar is fake or never lived that life and every rapper that hasn't reached that status is way more authentic and has lived that life? see it's 1 thing to give constructive critisizm or speak your mind but making a living off of that bcuz you're not who you once used 2 be is another and that's what KRS1 has been doing 4 tha longest. It's like son just drop a hot record and shut tha fuck up and MAKE everybody shut tha fuck up and respect you like that again. He keeps trying 2 pull out his OG Pass and use it but it's like son, do something.
Even old headz gotta show they ass out here every once in a while, whether they cake up big and buy a new bangin ass ride or house or get drunk at a bar and stomp tha shit outta some nigga (prefferibly younger than him IMO) and show everybody he's still king of the jungle, show everybody he's still top dogg and cant nobody fuck wit him. KRS1 ain't doin that, that's why he tried 2 check Wayne b4 Wayne was gonna wreck that azz or make him look like an old fart, KRS ain't stupid, he knew what waz about 2 happen if he didn't try 2 handle the situation and all Wayne did was show his respect but really he was going to get in that azz a little and pull his card but obviously Wayne ain't disrespectful like that.
When KRS1 does something relevant to today that blows up whether it's a song, organization/charity, whatever and that shit really jumps off and bcomez household then KRS can act like he's acting now, other than that dude needs to shut tha fuck up and do his thing (whatever that iz). Like i said, u don't see Run tryna pull anybody's card or call out namez for attention (and they pretty much on tha same status even tho RunDMC got a little more pull). It's really some sucker shit foreal. What about the niggas he's supposidly sonnin back around tha way or in his everyday life, y is he always callin out tha big names... shit is just corny foreal. He knew what people were gonna talk about when he did this interview.
you totally missed my point about what artist would do to please they massa's, i stepped away from krs with it,saying these artist will succ dicc and give up they ass just to be in the lime light today, and why be under a white man or a jew when you started this shit? it all comes down to leader ship,follow the jayz model and get paid well for a nigga and feel you made it, the benchmark for these rappers today is a fucc'n bently instead of control of they own destiny.
bacc to krs he will always be looked at as a legend by those who are "really" down with the culture, may not mean nothing from mainstream perspective but to those who live it,it means alot, i'd never bow down to kris but i would always give him his just due and way more then run anyday yell
niggaz ain't kissin' them 80's ass niggaz Asses anymore lol. It waz possible back in 07 and before but nowadayz if u waznt rockin n tha 90's like that then you're pretty much a nobody. Not like a nobody in a sense of they a loser or whatever but like a nobody in a sense of "ok you had ur run and we respect u but go sit in tha bleechers and cheer on nigga and shut tha fuck up if u ain't got nothin good 2 say". I'm tellin' u, dusty ass larry holmes ass niggaz ain't at tha top of the Board anymore, they cool but everybody can't be Bill Russell or Dr. J or Magic or Bird. And that's what's wrong wit KRS, he was cool back in tha mid 90's when he was on that Top of the Board shit but he's wack now.
And my nigga, not everybody is controlled by the bitch ass white man or a funky ass Jew, most niggaz get paper how they wanna, people know what sell, everybody ain't comin' in tha game like "yeah i'm comin' off my Talib shit", niggaz is smart, they know what to sell AND THEY WANT TO SELL IT (and there's nothing wrong with that at all). there's nothing wrong with wanting a ferrari and a mansion, shit, i'd do just about anything 2 get me some of dat, even sing in autotune with a jonas brothers feature.
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but bottom line until someone does more for the culture (and i ain't talking bout that bullshit jayz does) you can't put them over this equal it's that simple,and he is not even my favorite but i got to keep it networth yell
Russell Simmons has always done it better and with more class than KRS1 has. and 2 be completely honest, i could give a fuck about KRS vs Melly Mell. i mean i'm sure (i know) tha shit was hot back then but it wasn't the greatest battle. there's been plenty of better battles than that even if it was one of the original (first) hip hop battles. I gotta keep it real, Rick Ross and 50 Cent was way more entertaining than that, and i'm not even saying that bcuz that's from "my generation".
When i think of KRS1 the phrase "talkin loud but ain't sayin nothin" comes to mind. Yeah i know who he is and what he does and WHAT ROLE HE PLAYS but he's still some shit, i could care less about what he's sayin. he just needs to shut tha fuck up and do somethin GOOD besides chastize everybody that didn't come from his era. it's like he's tryna prove something but he acts like he ain't got nothing 2 prove. i admire inspirational people but tha way dude carries himself he just loses all his respect.
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but bottom line until someone does more for the culture (and i ain't talking bout that bullshit jayz does) you can't put them over this equal it's that simple,and he is not even my favorite but i got to keep it networth yell
Russell Simmons has always done it better and with more class than KRS1 has. and 2 be completely honest, i could give a fuck about KRS vs Melly Mell. i mean i'm sure (i know) tha shit was hot back then but it wasn't the greatest battle. there's been plenty of better battles than that even if it was one of the original (first) hip hop battles. I gotta keep it real, Rick Ross and 50 Cent was way more entertaining than that, and i'm not even saying that bcuz that's from "my generation".
When i think of KRS1 the phrase "talkin loud but ain't sayin nothin" comes to mind. Yeah i know who he is and what he does and WHAT ROLE HE PLAYS but he's still some shit, i could care less about what he's sayin. he just needs to shut tha fuck up and do somethin GOOD besides chastize everybody that didn't come from his era. it's like he's tryna prove something but he acts like he ain't got nothing 2 prove. i admire inspirational people but tha way dude carries himself he just loses all his respect.
thats it i am tired you ignorant closeminde bullcrap . krs-1 is always saying something with meaning not talking out his ass like you . KRs 1 is talking loud & saying something unlike you . krs-1 has more rights then to talk then most rappers . for one krs-1 was around before ruun dmc . so save crap about run .alos run turned into punk & was never teacher like KRS-1. every O.G., in rap game has right to talk & knows better then you or any rapper today .krs-1 does it better then q-tip or ice cube ever did . without KRS-1 there would be no Q-tip or ice cube at all. see your mentallity is what the problem is with hip hop today.. KRS-1 is not wack today or at all. krs-1 was rocking out in 90's dumbass .so the bullshit if u waznt rockin n tha 90's like that then you're pretty much a nobody does not fly with krs-1 because he was rocking in the 90's . krs-1 went solo in the 90's & had few hits . krs-1 was being rocked in 1996 . when death row came nobody was going around saying KRS-who at all . people were still rocking KRS-1 hard during the death row era .KRs-1 had hit during the death row era & everybody knew him . also krs-1 did drop album with buckshot last fall. . see you think you are respectful but the truth is nothinh but closeminded disrespectful punk all together . the old heads always know better then you & can teach you the right way . sorry lil wayne can't punk anybody . KRS-1 grew up with real O.G's unlike lil wayne who grew up with fakes . krs-1 has people who can take out wayne & his people on the streets at anytime.
you said he was interviews he's always ranting and throwing out big names 4 attention so people can associate his name with the current stars of the game but do you know wahy he does that . for you dumb young closeminded new schoolers to relate to what he saying because most of time he is right. you just don't get do you . krs-1 has been doing this teaching thing since hte 80's & is always right. krs -1 is not doing anything different then what he was doing in the old days . see you have problem with being educated at all because you are closeminded & don't ever want to face the truth because it hurts too much . so your metallity is that of someone who is closeminded & straight up ignorant . everything KRS-1 says is relevant today . just people want to have fun too much & not deal with life or the truth & stay closeminded & ignorant like you do . if choose not to learn then you stay closeminded,ignorant & don't grow as person at all . you just stay as a ignorant closeminded loser
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thats it i am tired you ignorant closeminde bullcrap . krs-1 is always saying something with meaning not talking out his ass like you . KRs 1 is talking loud & saying something unlike you . krs-1 has more rights then to talk then most rappers . for one krs-1 was around before ruun dmc . so save crap about run .alos run turned into punk & was never teacher like KRS-1. every O.G., in rap game has right to talk & knows better then you or any rapper today .
krs-1 does it better then q-tip or ice cube ever did . without KRS-1 there would be no Q-tip or ice cube at all. see your mentallity is what the problem is with hip hop today.. KRS-1 is not wack today or at all. krs-1 was rocking out in 90's dumbass .so the bullshit if u waznt rockin n tha 90's like that then you're pretty much a nobody does not fly with krs-1 because he was rocking in the 90's . krs-1 went solo in the 90's & had few hits . krs-1 was being rocked in 1996 . when death row came nobody was going around saying KRS-who at all . people were still rocking KRS-1 hard during the death row era .KRs-1 had hit during the death row era & everybody knew him . also krs-1 did drop album with buckshot last fall. . see you think you are respectful but the truth is nothinh but closeminded disrespectful punk all together . the old heads always know better then you & can teach you the right way . sorry lil wayne can't punk anybody . KRS-1 grew up with real O.G's unlike lil wayne who grew up with fakes . krs-1 has people who can take out wayne & his people on the streets at anytime.
you said he was interviews he's always ranting and throwing out big names 4 attention so people can associate his name with the current stars of the game but do you know wahy he does that . for you dumb young closeminded new schoolers to relate to what he saying because most of time he is right. you just don't get do you . krs-1 has been doing this teaching thing since hte 80's & is always right. krs -1 is not doing anything different then what he was doing in the old days . see you have problem with being educated at all because you are closeminded & don't ever want to face the truth because it hurts too much . so your metallity is that of someone who is closeminded & straight up ignorant . everything KRS-1 says is relevant today . just people want to have fun too much & not deal with life or the truth & stay closeminded & ignorant like you do . if choose not to learn then you stay closeminded,ignorant & don't grow as person at all . you just stay as a ignorant closeminded loser
New Orleans >>>>>> New York. When it comes to bodies and crime New Orleans shits all over NY so untuck ya dick nigga, everybody knows this and they have for almost the longest. And stop comin' at me like u tryna son me on some shit nigga, YOU ARE BIASED TOWARDS ANYTHING POST-1999 nigga and stop actin' like u not. KRS-1 will never be Chuck D, KRS-1 will never be Ice Cube, KRS-1 will never be Scarface; you know, niggaz thats been around forever and can still move the people. Get off of your high-horse 1970's dick ridin' ass clown shit. KRS-1 only seems a little relevant bcuz he pays people to still give him some air time, nobody is searching for this nigga's shit, y, bcuz nobody cares.
Your bullshit (which i didn't even read all of) is invalid and prejudice. You're the closed-minded loser, learn how 2 type nigga. You're making excuses for people as to why they don't play KRS too, just face it, the nigga is garbage and there's only a select few amount of people (the die hard fans) who still play his shit. Don't get mad bcuz Disco Music got played the fuck out nigga.
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thats it i am tired you ignorant closeminde bullcrap .
for one krs-1 was around before ruun dmc . so save crap about run
LMAO, you can't call someone ignorant and then go on to say this
KRS-1 grew up with real O.G's unlike lil wayne who grew up with fakes . krs-1 has people who can take out wayne & his people on the streets at anytime.
what type of ignorant shit is this? For one you don't know who lil wayne or KRS One grew up with. Stop acting like you know duke personally. And secondly who gives a fuck who can take out who on the streets? How old are you and what does that have to do with hip hop?
everything KRS-1 says is relevant today .
not true by far
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KRS1 wants to play the Father of HipHop (and most of us i'm sure know how a father can be). But he can't bcuz HipHop is a Fatherless game and can't no 1 man be the Father. You can be an Uncle like Scarface or Too $hort or E40 or Chuck D. You can be an UncleBrotherCousin like Jay Z but you can't be the Father. KRS1 thinks of himself too highly (and it's cool 2 be super confident) but you also have to have a grip on reality of who u r aswell and I don't think this man has an accurate view of who he is in this game.
If you ask me i'd say Ice T is more of the Father figure to this game than KRS1 is bcuz of how he carries himself and how his career went but that's just my opinion (even though that Soulja Boy thing was pretty gay lol but he's still got a pass tho).
KRS is like that bum ass nigga who walks around the street tryna "educate" and uplift everybody but no1 takes him serious enuff bcuz he's so broke and he's always preaching. "Criminal Minded" was more of a fad album than "Straight Outta Compton" was and i'm not even saying that bcuz this is a "westside" forum (even tho really it's hardly even that).
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Sounds like a pretty silly argument.
Regardless, KRS thinks so high of himself because people put him there; just like plenty of rappers feel.
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y iz everything an "argument" with u, there's no argument to be made here or argument taking place. KRS has been put "there" by certain people here n there for sure but for the most part he's putting himself there (by himself if u knowwatimean). and when he doez that it's really only his small group of die hardz that be commenting and following him on whatever, people like midwestcryer and shit (old niggaz with grown kidz who have kids that people don't notice or respect in everyday society).
Kris is alwayz tryna bag on other rappers like he haz some sort of big respect outside of the "underground" hiphop media (a few select outlets ftr). KRS ain't on CNN, KRS ain't in movies, KRS don't be on TV's, KRS don't be makin headlinez doin whatever, KRS is a bum, he'll pop up on a random ass documentary but that's it. Biz Markie got way more clout than KRS, DMC got more pull than KRS, nigga Rakim got more respect than KRS. Kris is outta touch with reality.
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He was jokin wit wayne and wayne took it seriously haha but krs still drops some of the dopest muzik period
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this is something most of us here will disagree on,but that one dude said krs be talking loud and saying nothing yet can't bacc that up, and again people go with the "popular" people again, so i guess i can say hammer means more then nas or warren g since yall love him so much hahaha, after awhile the shit gets silly because alot of the shit some folk say is just out there, it's i never liked him so he can't be good blah blah blah, and someone saying ricc ross vs 50 was a better battle? yeah if you looking for some wwe shit,but as mc's go hell nah,be honest my equals,and fucc who's generation it is just put the facts out there yell
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niggas turned my thread into some urban freak show....lmfao i love it.
all im gonna say is whoever threw russle simmons in the mix is crazy...russles intentions from the jump is to get a quick buck from exploiting urban culture he has admited this....not to shit on his humanitarian efforts but hip hop was ruined by def jam and thats an undisputable fact.
they jump on any and every bandwagon that rolls through hip hop from g funk to trap rap.
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i never said KRS never did his thing but when he did it was way back when niggaz was still on Hi-Top and Mid-Top fades heavy. He wasn't joking with Wayne, Wayne was joking with him and KRS got on tha defensive quick like Asap. There's no popularity contest with me either, that's never the type of shit i'm on, if I was I'd be yelling Fabolous as one of the GOATS of HipHop (not tryna knock the nigga tho). I'm simplying putting out the FACT that KRS1 jumps on the "anti-new" generation bandwagon and he does it so shamelessly like it's nothing and then turns around and act like he's still Boss Dogg. And to me, Ross and 50 did have one of the best battles, WHY, bcuz it was completely new and original (nonetheless all out Entertaining). Most niggaz battle with the "i'll kill you" style lyrics (and that's cool who time but) it's nothing new, it's just the same "fuck you" story all over again.
and hey, fuck it, Russell in it for the money so what, my nigga Nate Dogg admitted to tha same thing A LONG time ago (like back in the 90's/00-01' time frame) and you'll never hear a nigga talking down on Nate Dogg ever. and truth be told, what artist hasn't jumped on the bandwagon, whether it's instrumentals or features or a certain style of a song EVERYBODY has jumped along on the bandwagon, it's what NORMAL (most importantly SMART) people do and anybody who swears they'd go up against the grain is a liar and only wants to save face. even Papoose made a song or two about the bitches, it's what niggaz do.
and last homiez, KRS can't back his shit up bcuz noone wants to hear it lol. KRS ain't important anymore and u think so you truely are just a fanboy (there's nothing wrong with that, like whoever u wanna like by any means) but don't be delusional to tha fact that dude is a nobody. KRS don't even get any burn at the BET Awards (and i think it's safe to say that only black people/hip hop headz only care about the BET Awards), that nigga Jay Z don't even show up and he's Music Royalty. The BET HipHop Awards don't count just yet nigga. It may mean alot to us but as far as the world is concerned, it's just not on a big enuff platform just yet.
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But do the dope producers/rappers go to that shit? Face, rza, krs one etc...who gives a fuck bout jay z and his blueprints
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But do the dope producers/rappers go to that shit? Face, rza, krs one etc...who gives a fuck bout jay z and his blueprints
that's bcuz RZA and Face ain't never been nominated 4 shit lol. and if they were i'm sure they knew they wouldn't win. the point i waz tryna make iz that KRS has in his mind that he's some type of ambassador for hiphop (and in his own right he is, i can't take away all of his credintials) but fact being he's not on that type of level he's tryna make himself out 2 be alotta tha timez. he can speak on Rap music from the 80's and the really early 90's but that's it, other og's in the game have taken his place 4 that.
like i've said b4, he's no Chuck D, he's no Run, he's no Dr. Dre, and he ain't Face or RZA or LL Cool J 4 that matter, he's KRS1 from back in tha 80's and that's it. He had a good run while it lasted and that's where his legacy stops, son ain't never put on a big named act, he ain't never really been in anything major on TV, he ain't never really made no huge charity type of thing that's household, all he's done is given a little bit of intellect at Speech Forums and a couple Documentaries. i respect him as a man and i'd shake his hand and give him his props if i ever met him but i'm not gonna kiss no ass, like Buddens say "i'm a student of tha game and not a teacher's pet".