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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Woodrow on December 17, 2002, 11:20:13 PM

Title: Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: Woodrow on December 17, 2002, 11:20:13 PM
I created this poll to see what everybody thinks of the Moderators of this forum.

Are they doing their job?

Are they fair and balanced?

Do they represent the members of WCC?

Should there be more diversity?

My views are this:
I don't think that the current moderators represent WCC, and more specifically, the people who post in the Train of Thought.

Blade and Doggy are open minded individuals who I feel are fair and balanced. I look at their views with an open mind and really take in what they have to say because 9 times out of 10, they bring something positive to the discussion and also a very valuable viewpoint. They are also willing to look at things from an unbiased standpoint. I commend them for this. Thanks for being great mods.

Finite: Where should I start? Letís not forget he got his mod position revoked for deleting posts to make his argument stronger, and bashing other religions. He is close minded, hypocritical, and most of all a bigot.

Tech: Threatens others with violence, pretends his name is osama bin laden, shuts down discussion criticizing his religion, and makes fun of others for bringing information to the board and holding people accountable for their words.

I To da geezy: I really haven't seen him post much, so I can't comment.

Look at the religious preference of the current mods:
Doggy aka Pitbull: Muslim
Infinite Ibrahim Abdul Hamid: Muslim
KING TECH QUADAFI: Muslim
I TO DA GEEZY: I'm assuming he is a religion other than Muslim.
Blade: Sikh

The point Iím trying to make is that this board is heavily Muslim biased. I have no problem with Muslims, but I would really like to see members of other religions in mod positions. If this is really the train of thought, then discussion criticizing others religions shouldn't be shut down, rather they should be encouraged. Currently, this isn't happening.  

Vote up.

Edited by Engelwood...
Trauma pointed out that I had Blade down as a different religion.

Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: Trauma-san on December 17, 2002, 11:22:30 PM
Actually, Blade's a Sikh.  
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: Woodrow on December 17, 2002, 11:24:05 PM
Actually, Blade's a Sikh.  
Whoops! My bad! Im gonna change it right now...
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: Trauma-san on December 17, 2002, 11:25:10 PM
No Prob.  The rest is right though :)  
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: Instant_Killa on December 17, 2002, 11:33:08 PM
yea i think some one should make me a  mod for a change, i think im reliable seriously....if someone opposes me or anything, then i will not delete the post, sice ive told yall that im fond of arguments, but if theres trouble then ill delete posts....im a Sikh too and im blades older brother, so maybe I could be a mod for a change...but its up to overseer...
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: Instant_Killa on December 17, 2002, 11:34:46 PM
lol
i promise ill be on my best behaviour
im serious
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 17, 2002, 11:50:30 PM
How bout me  ;)...LoL...



For real though...I think either Trauma, Engel-Wood, Cwalker, or myself (For more Jewish moderation) should be elected as a mod for this board...PeACe
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 17, 2002, 11:52:11 PM
To add to the list...Jake and Ant would both make good moderaters as well...PeACe
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: Don Jacob on December 18, 2002, 01:15:16 AM
why thanks NIK

but i really don't  want that responsibilty for this type of board, the only boards i'd want to moderate would be MY album review board (that was my baby lol) or an idea i have for a forum that i'd want to do with trauma (a non hip hop forum)


but seriously i think TOT isn't very representative of the average WCC poster , i mean the majority if not all of the muslum population at this board are mods here , when the majority of WCC is either quazi christian , christian, or non religious


for equality i'd put 1 christian, 1 muslum, 1 jew, and 1 non religious as  mods. we could vote for who we'd want out of those choices . equal representation


i dont know how or why anyone would disagree with that

Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: Cliftone_Santiago_909 on December 18, 2002, 01:41:29 AM
Damn you fools are pussies. Cryin over some gay shit...


If I was Infinite or Tech.. tha main people you're tryna fuck with... I'd resign my Mod Position just to show you how gay you are.
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: Cliftone_Santiago_909 on December 18, 2002, 01:43:49 AM
P.S... If it's like that might as well make tha Mods athiests... how more unbiased can you get.
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: Woodrow on December 18, 2002, 01:44:46 AM
Damn you fools are pussies. Cryin over some gay shit...


If I was Infinite or Tech.. tha main people you're tryna fuck with... I'd resign my Mod Position just to show you how gay you are.

Fools? Pussies? Gay?

Interesting...
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: Cliftone_Santiago_909 on December 18, 2002, 01:59:03 AM
Sorry if that sounded kinda hostile... I'll be sure to rush over to church tomorrow morning to confess.


Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: bLaDe HeLi[X] on December 18, 2002, 02:56:33 AM
Yo, Thanks for the props dogg, i try to stay neutral and cool....I read every thread in this forum, even if I dont post in each of them too,  peace

  -{bLaDe}
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: Don Seer on December 18, 2002, 03:22:51 AM
So the bias is we've got 2 muslims and one of "other deviations".
Quite a fair spread... not going to hustle up NIK 'just because he's jewish'
or someone else 'just because they're buddist' or whatever

p.s. Like Jake said above about not wanting to be a mod.
Trauma could be a mod and can be if he wants, but doesnt want to.


being a mod or not hasnt affected anybodies attitudes anyways, and it shouldnt.
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: closetothalimit on December 18, 2002, 05:16:38 AM
i think some mods abuse their power in threads about their own religion and this isnt fair, i think rather then getting more just have 3 at most, all unbiased and open minded like the ones engel-rock mentions above.
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: CharlieBrown on December 18, 2002, 08:18:54 AM
Since it re-opened i think the mods have done a fine job.
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: CWalker187 on December 18, 2002, 10:29:09 AM
Engel you are definitely right about this, there really does need to be more diversity among the moderators. When yu have people locking up certain threads, and threatening to ban people because of their beliefs like they tried to do to me, then there is a problem.

I just don't understand what the moderators' problem is. What is so bad about free speech, as long as you don't threaten anyone. Heck, even I have been physically threatened by Afghan Terrorist and I still could care less.
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 18, 2002, 11:59:39 AM
LOL@ this thread


criminal 909 said it best, swear to God, lol

What we have here is an attempt by the non muslims to gain control of the moderator position.

This is not a govt, where we need to be representative to the people.
For Gods sakes, im a moderator that will lock up a post if it gets personal or if religion gets attacked.  Nothing wrong with that, and if there is, i want Overseer to talk to me about it.

You lil girls got your panties in a bunch, as if having Trauma as a mod would change anything.  We dont have daily TOT moderator meetings, in such case, an extra Christain vote would help your case LOL.
If trauma was a mod i would still lock posts that were personal and an attack on religion.

Keep in mind, that there really is no need for more moderators, in fact i think we have too much at this point

Also keep in mind, that c walker has been warned before and NIK was just banned, when, like 2 weeks ago? Engle is callin me Osama, LOL,
the real know whats up
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 18, 2002, 12:02:01 PM
one more thing engle, why dont u tell me right now what having an extra non muslim mod would do to this board.  Like what would be the benefits?
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: Woodrow on December 18, 2002, 02:09:35 PM
LOL@ this thread

What we have here is an attempt by the non Muslims to gain control of the moderator position.
You want to make this a Muslim/non Muslim issue. It's not. It's a representation issue.

This is not a govt, where we need to be representative to the people.
For Gods sakes, im a moderator that will lock up a post if it gets personal or if religion gets attacked.  Nothing wrong with that, and if there is, i want Overseer to talk to me about it.
You have personally attacked me on numerous occasions. Where were you when infinite attacked other religions? Why do you lock up threads criticizing an Islamic practice? Is it because it got "personal" or was it because you didn't feel like defending your position?
It's easy to say you will do something, but when push comes to shove, will you? If you past actions are any indication, I think not.

You lil girls got your panties in a bunch
This isn't getting personal?


Engle is callin me Osama, LOL,
the real know whats up

No, you called yourself Osama
Osa..uh...Abdul

Remember that?
here is the topic incase you forgot...
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=23571;start=0

And yes, the "real" do know whatís up....
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: Woodrow on December 18, 2002, 02:19:14 PM
one more thing engle, why dont u tell me right now what having an extra non muslim mod would do to this board.  Like what would be the benefits?
Threads like this woudln't get locked up.
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=25439
Good discussion wouldn't get stopped in its tracks because somebody didn't feel like defending their position.

Threads like this would REALLY be locked when somebody locks them
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=24907;start=60

Posts wouldn't get deleted like this.
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=24749;start=20




Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: Entreri117 on December 18, 2002, 02:34:49 PM
I'm cool w/ mostly everybody in here...

CWalker-  You do make insulting comments at Muslims from time to time...lay back on that...express yourself w/o cussing or sayin other shit...

Tech- I have seen you lock up posts because you wanted to...so what if people criticize your religion?  This is TOT...we're supposed to express everything we want here...

Infinite- You take shit too far sometimes...I have seen you criticize America and other religions...seems like you wanna bash others, but when it comes to you, you make it personal and serious...

I don't post in here too much, but I do check in here all the time...

PS: I am an athiest...I support no God or Gods...
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: HBKid_Jr on December 18, 2002, 03:05:04 PM
LOL@ this thread


criminal 909 said it best, swear to God, lol

What we have here is an attempt by the non muslims to gain control of the moderator position.

This is not a govt, where we need to be representative to the people.
For Gods sakes, im a moderator that will lock up a post if it gets personal or if religion gets attacked.  Nothing wrong with that, and if there is, i want Overseer to talk to me about it.

You lil girls got your panties in a bunch, as if having Trauma as a mod would change anything.  We dont have daily TOT moderator meetings, in such case, an extra Christain vote would help your case LOL.
If trauma was a mod i would still lock posts that were personal and an attack on religion.

Keep in mind, that there really is no need for more moderators, in fact i think we have too much at this point

Also keep in mind, that c walker has been warned before and NIK was just banned, when, like 2 weeks ago? Engle is callin me Osama, LOL,
the real know whats up
than how come u never locked or deleted any of infinite post bashig christianity
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 18, 2002, 03:52:59 PM
im gonna make this very clear so you guys can understand

(on a side note, cmon engle, are u seriously that humour deprived that u couldnt tell a joke, dont bring anything goes convos here)

anyways, as you all know......

1) hall of mirrors was disbanded because of all the hate,
2) there were increased calls for more vigilant moderators

so in light of that, RECENTLY, i decided to be more of a better mod,
so RECENTLY, i told infinite in  a private message that we had to be better disciplined and refrain from personal and religious attacks because that has RECENTLY been a personal policy of mine so that Seer wont get rid of this forum again,also because RECENTLY this forum has turned to major hating and im tryin to keep it pure political

the biggest argument against Infinite was his "christain bashing", i spoke with him, and now Im locking every single thread that trashes a religion

like i said, c walker can post whatever he wants, i WELCOME the right wing garbage articles he posts here, because i love taking em on,
but religion bashing i wont allow, and i put that on my honour that if i see ANY RELIGIOUS BASHING, ITS LOCKED,


all i gotta say
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 18, 2002, 05:28:35 PM
Instead of locking a whole thread, why dont u just edit out what was said to bash a religion...? Why do you have to ruin a perfectly good thread for a small coment? Like when u locked C-walkers "Saudi Arabia" thread, you coulda' just edited out his hatefull statement...But instead, you locked up the whole thread because you were losing the argument...Bottem line, this board needs to be equal, and it doesn't seem very equal to me...PeACe
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 18, 2002, 06:08:56 PM
how the hell was i losing the argument? how do u win an argument when your religion is bashed?

"your religion is backwards"

"no its not??"
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: verbalassaulta on December 18, 2002, 07:27:53 PM
the mods in here are bull shit....if you say anything bad about tech or abebe abdulla whatever and they'll erase your post...i hardly come here anymore...you cant even express yourself freely so its a waiste of time
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 18, 2002, 07:32:36 PM
and the mob continues to grow

next i expect picket signs calling for my lynching

ive only deleted one thread...and that was because one dude completely dissed some next guy, it had nothing to do with the thread, the two people involved were not muslims and it was a thread that i ignored, i didnt even post in it

ive locked 2-3 threads cuz a religion was being bashed,
so your comment, verbalassaulta , is completely false
and baseless

furthermore, previously the inactivity of moderators was condemned, now when the moderator is more vigilant he is being harassed

i dont get it
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: Quakaveli on December 18, 2002, 11:09:50 PM
we need more non-muslim mods, trauma would be tight but I guess thats not possible, we need a hindu moderator and a christian one too. Infinite has to be kicked off, and maybe Tech, mabe not...
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 18, 2002, 11:20:54 PM
the mob continues to grow

whats your jusitfication for ousting me as mod rap quake, im just very interested to see what u have to say
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: CWalker187 on December 19, 2002, 01:43:31 AM
like i said, c walker can post whatever he wants, i WELCOME the right wing garbage articles he posts here, because i love taking em on,
but religion bashing i wont allow, and i put that on my honour that if i see ANY RELIGIOUS BASHING, ITS LOCKED,


The article that was locked up was not bashing Islam. It was criticizing Saudi Arabia for its treatment of women and because American women in the military were made to wear head wrap thingys over their faces.

That is not bashing.
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 19, 2002, 11:47:42 AM
You reffered to Islamic culture as backwards and u insulted islamic customs

dude, why didnt i lock any of those other articles u posted, cuz i had no problems with them, but the saudia arabia one was pure ignorance
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: CWalker187 on December 19, 2002, 09:12:06 PM
You reffered to Islamic culture as backwards and u insulted islamic customs

dude, why didnt i lock any of those other articles u posted, cuz i had no problems with them, but the saudia arabia one was pure ignorance

No, what I said was legitimate. The fact that Saudis oppress women is indeed backwards. I am not buying the "it's their custom" excuse. That is like excusing racism against blacks in the south because "that's southern culture". Wrong is wrong.
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: Trauma-san on December 20, 2002, 12:26:28 AM
im gonna make this very clear so you guys can understand

anyways, as you all know......

1) hall of mirrors was disbanded because of all the hate,
2) there were increased calls for more vigilant moderators

so in light of that, RECENTLY, i decided to be more of a better mod,
so RECENTLY, i told infinite in  a private message that we had to be better disciplined and refrain from personal and religious attacks because that has RECENTLY been a personal policy of mine so that Seer wont get rid of this forum again,also because RECENTLY this forum has turned to major hating and im tryin to keep it pure political

the biggest argument against Infinite was his "christain bashing", i spoke with him, and now Im locking every single thread that trashes a religion

like i said, c walker can post whatever he wants, i WELCOME the right wing garbage articles he posts here, because i love taking em on,
but religion bashing i wont allow, and i put that on my honour that if i see ANY RELIGIOUS BASHING, ITS LOCKED,


all i gotta say

Fair enough to me.
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: Woodrow on December 20, 2002, 01:53:36 PM
Another thing I've noticed is the whole "karma" issue.

The Last people with Karma as low as Tech and Infinite was Myrealname and NowIKnow... Should the mods be in the same group as two people who got banned?
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 20, 2002, 02:00:33 PM
^ Englewood youve said some mighty smart stuff and some mighty stupid shit.....that above comment qualifies for the latter

oh god...lol...i cant believe thats your reason for wanting me out as mod,,,,this is truely a mob mentality, yall cant think str8, LOL
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: Woodrow on December 20, 2002, 02:14:33 PM
I just think it's silly that you have the lowest Karma on the board...
And If you would have read the post, I said:

"ANOTHER ISSUE"
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: Quakaveli on December 22, 2002, 11:44:24 AM
Tech I dont want u BANNED, i said MAYBE, but for now we cant find better mods so U can have ur spot...and the reason for the MAYBE is that ur a very BIASED person, same with Cwalker, and thats why I didnt recommend him to be a mod...we need very unbiased FFAIR moderators. peace.
Title: Re:Bias in the Moderators of TOT
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 22, 2002, 03:35:11 PM
I just think it's silly that you have the lowest Karma on the board...
And If you would have read the post, I said:

"ANOTHER ISSUE"

indeed it is silly that i have the lowest karma too, but kinda funny too, funny that my political views mean so much to people that they have to repeatedly click a button at my expense....not u tho, i dont think its u or trauma, probably verbal assaulta and c walker.....