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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: dameons on October 06, 2010, 12:37:51 PM
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Ice Cube's first album in two years received a Top 25 debut. The controversially-titled I Am The West, debuted at #22. Released through Cube's own Lench Mob Records, the aggressive collection of songs featured fellow west coast pioneer WC, as well as veteran Jayo Felony and Cube's son, OMG. I Am The West featured a reunion with 24-year production partner Sir Jinx, as well as iTunes bonus tracks produced by E-A-Ski and DJ Quik.
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Its a grower...
A shame kids don't like to go to the store anymore.
Back in the day it was bragging rights to whoever had the new shit!
Anyway, I scooped mine.
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I expected Cube to sell a bit more in his first week, despite the decreasing sale numbers of musicians.
I have no regrets of buying this album. Hopefully next weeks he will gain some more numbers.
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LMAO THIS NIGGA CANT EVEN OUTSELL SLAUGHTERHOUSE HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Album had 4 very good cuts on it , but the rest was either too southern sounding, or just average at best . He went cheap on the costs. Guest appearances were mainly people from his own label , or his kids. Producers were a bunch of rookies who are cheap sounding beat makers.
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There was more of a buzz right around the time he dropped "I Rep That West"......think he waited to long to drop the album IMO and the buzz died down
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Not surprising at all. There was no big single to push it like his other recent albums, and a lot of the long-time Cube fans were disappointed in the quality.
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Not surprising at all. There was no big single to push it like his other recent albums, and a lot of the long-time Cube fans were disappointed in the quality.
Yup, prolly review it at a 2.5 or 3 out of 5 on a good day. I went on Itunes last week but couldn't find it. Is it up yet, well in Canada at least? I'll buy a few of the good songs.
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Not surprising at all. There was no big single to push it like his other recent albums, and a lot of the long-time Cube fans were disappointed in the quality.
Yup, prolly review it at a 2.5 or 3 out of 5 on a good day. I went on Itunes last week but couldn't find it. Is it up yet, well in Canada at least? I'll buy a few of the good songs.
Apparently you have to buy the entire album, and not a track via track. That's what I heard, I didn't purchase it off Itunes (I got the tracks 4 free).
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Not surprising at all. There was no big single to push it like his other recent albums, and a lot of the long-time Cube fans were disappointed in the quality.
Yup, prolly review it at a 2.5 or 3 out of 5 on a good day. I went on Itunes last week but couldn't find it. Is it up yet, well in Canada at least? I'll buy a few of the good songs.
Apparently you have to buy the entire album, and not a track via track. That's what I heard, I didn't purchase it off Itunes (I got the tracks 4 free).
You can buy individual songs off of itunes. Its the "bonus tracks" that come as part of a package if you buy the whole album.
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Artists need to stick with their strengths. What's Ice Cube better at than almost everybody else? Political substance. If he turns his back on that and makes an average album that any other artist could have made, what's the incentive to buy his album? Hence, low sales numbers. Cube, please go back to doing what makes you unique and special as an artist rather than just run of the mill.
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Cube should just retire from rapping already
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Artists need to stick with their strengths. What's Ice Cube better at than almost everybody else? Political substance. If he makes an average album that any other artist could have made, what's the incentive to buy his album? Hence, low sales numbers. Cube, please go back to doing what makes you unique and special as an artist rather than just run of the mill.
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I remember talking about Ice Cube's relevancy compared to Slaughterhouse & people we're telling me I was buggin' lol.
What up, Hack? 8)
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of course, he didnt sell. peopel arent buyin physical albums anymore..
it's not 1998
thought, that was obvious
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of course, he didnt sell. peopel arent buyin physical albums anymore..
it's not 1998
thought, that was obvious
Ice Cube, who is all over TBS promoting his shit, couldn't sell any more than Slaughterhouse on E1 with no promotion?
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I remember talking about Ice Cube's relevancy compared to Slaughterhouse & people we're telling me I was buggin' lol.
What up, Hack? 8)
What does that have to do with anything? Especially this topic? Just curious
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peopel arent buyin physical albums anymore..
No, no, no, I don't want to hear that lol. I always hear that "'this' artist doesn't sell"; Cube just flopped.
I remember talking about Ice Cube's relevancy compared to Slaughterhouse & people we're telling me I was buggin' lol.
What up, Hack? 8)
What does that have to do with anything? Especially this topic? Just curious
Well, I saw what Hack wrote earlier in this thread & I specifically remember arguing about Cube's relevancy & somebody was like "He sells soooo much more than Slaughterhouse"; well...apparently not lol.
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peopel arent buyin physical albums anymore..
No, no, no, I don't want to hear that lol. I always hear that "'this' artist doesn't sell"; Cube just flopped.
I remember talking about Ice Cube's relevancy compared to Slaughterhouse & people we're telling me I was buggin' lol.
What up, Hack? 8)
What does that have to do with anything? Especially this topic? Just curious
Well, I saw what Hack wrote earlier in this thread & I specifically remember arguing about Cube's relevancy & somebody was like "He sells soooo much more than Slaughterhouse"; well...apparently not lol.
So relevancy is why you think this album did not sell?
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peopel arent buyin physical albums anymore..
No, no, no, I don't want to hear that lol. I always hear that "'this' artist doesn't sell"; Cube just flopped.
I remember talking about Ice Cube's relevancy compared to Slaughterhouse & people we're telling me I was buggin' lol.
What up, Hack? 8)
What does that have to do with anything? Especially this topic? Just curious
Well, I saw what Hack wrote earlier in this thread & I specifically remember arguing about Cube's relevancy & somebody was like "He sells soooo much more than Slaughterhouse"; well...apparently not lol.
So relevancy is why you think this album did not sell?
Has to be a factor. It's not like Slaughterhouse gets any promotion. I'd say it's about even in terms of promo; maybe even favoring Cube.
Raw Footage sold like 500,000 worldwide. This album goes 22 in the first week? Something just doesn't add up.
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peopel arent buyin physical albums anymore..
No, no, no, I don't want to hear that lol. I always hear that "'this' artist doesn't sell"; Cube just flopped.
I remember talking about Ice Cube's relevancy compared to Slaughterhouse & people we're telling me I was buggin' lol.
What up, Hack? 8)
What does that have to do with anything? Especially this topic? Just curious
Well, I saw what Hack wrote earlier in this thread & I specifically remember arguing about Cube's relevancy & somebody was like "He sells soooo much more than Slaughterhouse"; well...apparently not lol.
So relevancy is why you think this album did not sell?
Has to be a factor. It's not like Slaughterhouse gets any promotion. I'd say it's about even in terms of promo; maybe even favoring Cube.
Raw Footage sold like 500,000 worldwide. This album goes 22 in the first week? Something just doesn't add up.
Yeah it is. I would say comparing the promo, touring and everything he put together for LNCL compared to this it is not the same. And that is his fault. Relevant yeah he still is, he does it on his own terms but the business approach to this album was ehh.
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peopel arent buyin physical albums anymore..
No, no, no, I don't want to hear that lol. I always hear that "'this' artist doesn't sell"; Cube just flopped.
I remember talking about Ice Cube's relevancy compared to Slaughterhouse & people we're telling me I was buggin' lol.
What up, Hack? 8)
What does that have to do with anything? Especially this topic? Just curious
Well, I saw what Hack wrote earlier in this thread & I specifically remember arguing about Cube's relevancy & somebody was like "He sells soooo much more than Slaughterhouse"; well...apparently not lol.
So relevancy is why you think this album did not sell?
Has to be a factor. It's not like Slaughterhouse gets any promotion. I'd say it's about even in terms of promo; maybe even favoring Cube.
Raw Footage sold like 500,000 worldwide. This album goes 22 in the first week? Something just doesn't add up.
E1 really put SH behind the 8 ball on promo. Hopefully that will not be a issue once the Shady deal is finalized.
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No, no, no, I don't want to hear that lol. I always hear that "'this' artist doesn't sell"; Cube just flopped.
so if a movie-company decided to release a movie on VHS in the year of 2010 - and it didnt sell - that would because they "flopped".
people stopped buying hardcopy-albums, when rapidshare and filestube were invented.
u can only sell albums, if u are a larger-than-life artst (like Eminem), or if ur fanbase is in their 40-50's..
Cube's soundscan-digits can be rightfully defended on this one.
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No, no, no, I don't want to hear that lol. I always hear that "'this' artist doesn't sell"; Cube just flopped.
so if a movie-company decided to release a movie on VHS in the year of 2010 - and it didnt sell - that would because they "flopped".
people stopped buying hardcopy-albums, when rapidshare and filestube were invented.
u can only sell albums, if u are a larger-than-life artst (like Eminem), or if ur fanbase is in their 40-50's..
Cube's soundscan-digits can be rightfully defended on this one.
well if he sells 22 k a week EVENTUALLY he'll reach platinum ;)
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peopel arent buyin physical albums anymore..
No, no, no, I don't want to hear that lol. I always hear that "'this' artist doesn't sell"; Cube just flopped.
I remember talking about Ice Cube's relevancy compared to Slaughterhouse & people we're telling me I was buggin' lol.
What up, Hack? 8)
What does that have to do with anything? Especially this topic? Just curious
Well, I saw what Hack wrote earlier in this thread & I specifically remember arguing about Cube's relevancy & somebody was like "He sells soooo much more than Slaughterhouse"; well...apparently not lol.
So relevancy is why you think this album did not sell?
Has to be a factor. It's not like Slaughterhouse gets any promotion. I'd say it's about even in terms of promo; maybe even favoring Cube.
Raw Footage sold like 500,000 worldwide. This album goes 22 in the first week? Something just doesn't add up.
Yeah it is. I would say comparing the promo, touring and everything he put together for LNCL compared to this it is not the same. And that is his fault. Relevant yeah he still is, he does it on his own terms but the business approach to this album was ehh.
Yeah, it was just a poor effort all around for him; on and off the mic. :P
I'm not going to say with the right promotion that he couldn't out outsold Slaughterhouse, but with zero promotion compared to zero promotion, Slaughterhouse outsold him; I dig that.
Anyway, I just personally feel that with all the talks about Slaughterhouse (especially Joe Budden & Crooked I) on the internet, they are more relevant than Ice Cube, in terms of music.
As a person, with movies & apperances, clearly Cube. But from a musical standpoint I think Cube is fading.
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No, no, no, I don't want to hear that lol. I always hear that "'this' artist doesn't sell"; Cube just flopped.
so if a movie-company decided to release a movie on VHS in the year of 2010 - and it didnt sell - that would because they "flopped".
people stopped buying hardcopy-albums, when rapidshare and filestube were invented.
u can only sell albums, if u are a larger-than-life artst (like Eminem), or if ur fanbase is in their 40-50's..
Cube's soundscan-digits can be rightfully defended on this one.
LOL, Cube's fanbase is all in their 40's & 50's & apparently they didn't cop this.
& all I'm saying is Slaughterhouse sold more copies. I know record sales are down & I know Slaughterhouse sold shit too. But you would think someone "more relevant" would sell more hardcopies.
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if someone was 15 when NWA came out they'd be 37 now
damnnn
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LOL, Cube's fanbase is all in their 40's & 50's & apparently they didn't cop this.
no, Cubes fans are young enough and modern enough to understand the basics of internet-googling and downloading.
the real old ppl (our parents and their homies) - they buy records.
the Susan Boyle-people
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No, no, no, I don't want to hear that lol. I always hear that "'this' artist doesn't sell"; Cube just flopped.
so if a movie-company decided to release a movie on VHS in the year of 2010 - and it didnt sell - that would because they "flopped".
people stopped buying hardcopy-albums, when rapidshare and filestube were invented.
u can only sell albums, if u are a larger-than-life artst (like Eminem), or if ur fanbase is in their 40-50's..
Cube's soundscan-digits can be rightfully defended on this one.
LOL, Cube's fanbase is all in their 40's & 50's & apparently they didn't cop this.
& all I'm saying is Slaughterhouse sold more copies. I know record sales are down & I know Slaughterhouse sold shit too. But you would think someone "more relevant" would sell more hardcopies.
again that comes with promo. And Cham you are the homie, but seriously bro u need to attend a Cube concert. All ages are there, not just 40 and 50 year olds. Granted this is only 1 week. I would be interested to see if SH's album, to no fault of their own, even cracked 100k and what this album ends up at.
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LOL, Cube's fanbase is all in their 40's & 50's & apparently they didn't cop this.
no, Cubes fans are young enough and modern enough to understand the basics of internet-googling and downloading.
the real old ppl (our parents and their homies) - they buy records.
the Susan Boyle-people
i've bought CDs in the last month or two
i'll buy them if i know they'll be good
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damn those are great numbers 4 cube.he 100% independent.and cube album isnt weak,it just got a couple of weak tracks.but what album out that dont have a couple of weak tracks.
comgrats 2 cube
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No, no, no, I don't want to hear that lol. I always hear that "'this' artist doesn't sell"; Cube just flopped.
so if a movie-company decided to release a movie on VHS in the year of 2010 - and it didnt sell - that would because they "flopped".
people stopped buying hardcopy-albums, when rapidshare and filestube were invented.
u can only sell albums, if u are a larger-than-life artst (like Eminem), or if ur fanbase is in their 40-50's..
Cube's soundscan-digits can be rightfully defended on this one.
LOL, Cube's fanbase is all in their 40's & 50's & apparently they didn't cop this.
& all I'm saying is Slaughterhouse sold more copies. I know record sales are down & I know Slaughterhouse sold shit too. But you would think someone "more relevant" would sell more hardcopies.
again that comes with promo. And Cham you are the homie, but seriously bro u need to attend a Cube concert. All ages are there, not just 40 and 50 year olds. Granted this is only 1 week. I would be interested to see if SH's album, to no fault of their own, even cracked 100k and what this album ends up at.
I know Cube doesn't only have 40-50 year old fans. But if anyone in rap has them, Cube does.
The guy said "40-50 year olds only buy albums", but that's ridiculous considering the only rappers that sell are Eminem, Jay-Z, Drake, Lil' Wayne & Kanye, all who have a high majority of younger fans.
But you are right, I do need to attend a Cube concert. :P 8)
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4 dope tracks on it.I wish he would have done better. He has put major work in and is the only one who can do it like we used to out here..But , he shouldn't have made the same mistake twice.This album , and Raw Footage = too much southern influence . He is a classic artist for us on the westcoast , WE NEED HIM , PERIOD .He better not quit after this disappointment . He has the best lyrics on our coast
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No, no, no, I don't want to hear that lol. I always hear that "'this' artist doesn't sell"; Cube just flopped.
so if a movie-company decided to release a movie on VHS in the year of 2010 - and it didnt sell - that would because they "flopped".
people stopped buying hardcopy-albums, when rapidshare and filestube were invented.
u can only sell albums, if u are a larger-than-life artst (like Eminem), or if ur fanbase is in their 40-50's..
Cube's soundscan-digits can be rightfully defended on this one.
LOL, Cube's fanbase is all in their 40's & 50's & apparently they didn't cop this.
& all I'm saying is Slaughterhouse sold more copies. I know record sales are down & I know Slaughterhouse sold shit too. But you would think someone "more relevant" would sell more hardcopies.
again that comes with promo. And Cham you are the homie, but seriously bro u need to attend a Cube concert. All ages are there, not just 40 and 50 year olds. Granted this is only 1 week. I would be interested to see if SH's album, to no fault of their own, even cracked 100k and what this album ends up at.
I know Cube doesn't only have 40-50 year old fans. But if anyone in rap has them, Cube does.
The guy said "40-50 year olds only buy albums", but that's ridiculous considering the only rappers that sell are Eminem, Jay-Z, Drake, Lil' Wayne & Kanye, all who have a high majority of younger fans.
But you are right, I do need to attend a Cube concert. :P 8)
Longevity in the game. ;) Hell my uncle is in his 40's and loves Crooked I and Joell Ortiz
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I remember talking about Ice Cube's relevancy compared to Slaughterhouse & people we're telling me I was buggin' lol.
What up, Hack? 8)
I remember this discussion was a year ago when Cube's last album had actually been decent and sold several hundred thousand copies. Regardless, this album still sold more in its first week than the Slaughterhouse album did. I think its still no question that Cube is more relevant, and obviously he was even more relevant a year ago when he was still moving units. He sold more with a mediocre album than Slaughterhouse did with a good album. Slaughterhouse only sold 18k its first week, an album which was released over a year ago ;)
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all I'm saying is Slaughterhouse sold more copies.
no they didn't
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I remember talking about Ice Cube's relevancy compared to Slaughterhouse & people we're telling me I was buggin' lol.
What up, Hack? 8)
I remember this discussion was a year ago when Cube's last album had actually been decent and sold several hundred thousand copies. Regardless, this album still sold more in its first week than the Slaughterhouse album did. I think its still no question that Cube is more relevant. He sold more with a mediocre album than Slaughterhouse did with a good album. Slaughterhouse only sold 18k its first week, an album which was released over a year ago ;)
slaughterhouse album had "sound off", "microphone", "cuckoo", "onslaught 2", "salute me", "raindrops" and "cut you loose"
songs that are better than anything off the new Cube cd
did you read anything i said?
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I remember talking about Ice Cube's relevancy compared to Slaughterhouse & people we're telling me I was buggin' lol.
What up, Hack? 8)
I remember this discussion was a year ago when Cube's last album had actually been decent and sold several hundred thousand copies. Regardless, this album still sold more in its first week than the Slaughterhouse album did. I think its still no question that Cube is more relevant. He sold more with a mediocre album than Slaughterhouse did with a good album. Slaughterhouse only sold 18k its first week, an album which was released over a year ago ;)
slaughterhouse album had "sound off", "microphone", "cuckoo", "onslaught 2", "salute me", "raindrops" and "cut you loose"
songs that are better than anything off the new Cube cd
did you read anything i said?
yes but i misread it which happens when im buzzed and focusing on the Yankees playoff game
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I remember talking about Ice Cube's relevancy compared to Slaughterhouse & people we're telling me I was buggin' lol.
What up, Hack? 8)
I remember this discussion was a year ago when Cube's last album had actually been decent and sold several hundred thousand copies. Regardless, this album still sold more in its first week than the Slaughterhouse album did. I think its still no question that Cube is more relevant. He sold more with a mediocre album than Slaughterhouse did with a good album. Slaughterhouse only sold 18k its first week, an album which was released over a year ago ;)
slaughterhouse album had "sound off", "microphone", "cuckoo", "onslaught 2", "salute me", "raindrops" and "cut you loose"
songs that are better than anything off the new Cube cd
did you read anything i said?
yes but i misread it which happens when im buzzed and focusing on the Yankees playoff game
lol, ok. Even though I disagree with that statement, the Slaughterhouse debut was a much better album than I Am the West.
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the good thing about cubes crappy new album is it makes me appreciate death certificate even more
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if someone was 15 when NWA came out they'd be 37 now
damnnn
lol I'm 19 now I feel weird.
Also yeah Slaughter House> I Am The West, The Production and Lyricism was all on point. However I Am The West Sold more in it's first weak. Not surprising, I Am The West had a southern Single (She Couldn't Make it) to help push the albums radio play. Basically I Am The West was the Banger that got the buzz started huge, Drink The Kool Aid was the Controversy to have people look towards the albums direction, and The Southern Inspired single (while hated on here, is loved by the mainstream radios) is what helped the album keep it's mainstream buzz.
Still it's sad he didn't go all out on this. For a Period after Drink The Kool-Aid everything essentially went dead. I mean during the first single drop he had been promoting 3 things left and right (Straight Outta L.A., Are We There Yet TV Series, The Album).
anyways not surprised he out sold slaughter house album in it's first week. Ice Cube is more well known then Slaughter House just for the work he did on the west alone.
Either way, I still can't wait for Slaughter Houses second LP or for WCs/Young Maylays album.
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It isn't bad numbers for an independent record. IMO.
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if someone was 15 when NWA came out they'd be 37 now
damnnn
lol I'm 19 now I feel weird.
Also yeah Slaughter House> I Am The West, The Production and Lyricism was all on point. However I Am The West Sold more in it's first weak. Not surprising, I Am The West had a southern Single (She Couldn't Make it) to help push the albums radio play. Basically I Am The West was the Banger that got the buzz started huge, Drink The Kool Aid was the Controversy to have people look towards the albums direction, and The Southern Inspired single (while hated on here, is loved by the mainstream radios) is what helped the album keep it's mainstream buzz.
lol, lets not pretend like any of the singles gave the album much buzz. Did you hear any of those songs on the radio? She Couldn't Make It on Her Own did jack for the album
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I remember talking about Ice Cube's relevancy compared to Slaughterhouse & people we're telling me I was buggin' lol.
What up, Hack? 8)
I AM THE WEST first week sales 22,000
Slaughterhouse first week sales 18,000 http://www.xxlmag.com/online/?p=55141
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people suck- BUY ALBUMS- music is gonna be ruined worse than it is if it keeps up
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and The Southern Inspired single (while hated on here, is loved by the mainstream radios) is what helped the album keep it's mainstream buzz.
actually, cube stated that he didn't get radio play, because he's not on a major label, so...
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Not suprised at all - it's the worst solo album Cube ever recorded so how can he expect his loyal fans going to buy it? I'm a fan myself buy I ain't going to spend 15 bucks on album that only has 7 good tracks on it..
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cube.. back to the movies
raw footage is much better, 'im the west sell 22k why sounds like south album
cube needed west coast sound , not dirty south
this album is I AM THE ATL, OR I AM ST LOUIS, OR A I'AM TEXAS
hauhuauha
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people suck- BUY ALBUMS- music is gonna be ruined worse than it is if it keeps up
BUY GOOD ALBUMS
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people suck- BUY ALBUMS- music is gonna be ruined worse than it is if it keeps up
not if labels & artists give up their fight against downloading.
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22,000 independent is not bad..! Congrats Cube still doin it..The faithful fans still got u..
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I agree that this was a terrible effort on Cube's part. I only keep 5 tracks in rotation. 5 out of 16 (18 itunes bonus tracks) is not a good album, period. I was bangin Young Maylay's The Real Coast Guard last night, thats a West Coast album. That shit bangs from beginning to end. The title led everyone to think it was going to be a West Coast instant classic. Big let down, plain and simple. KAM needs to release SELF & KIND already, DAMN! 8)
I am a loyal fan but garbage is garbage.
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So let me play devils advocate for a sec. If the album did say the same numbers as Wayne's new album, would your opinion on it change? Keep it 100 too people ;D
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what some of you fail to realize is that cube stated a few times recently he does not give a fuck about how many it sold, its for the hardcore cube fans...hes doin it for fun now...let the man have his fun...i think he deserves it..
anyway for a 2010 album, independent on top of that, 22k is good...lets give him the minimum 5$ (even though he prolly got more)..dude just caked up on over 100k in his pocket...this album didnt cost him shit...
look at one of the dopest tracks on the album..life in california...wc didnt cost him nothin, prolly jumped on for his dude like that...jynx prolly was happy just to be doin somethin...jayo = sherm stick....and domino = a rock....
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So let me play devils advocate for a sec. If the album did say the same numbers as Wayne's new album, would your opinion on it change? Keep it 100 too people ;D
How much did waynes album sell? (I don't keep track with him). Either way it's already been talked about various times that sells don't mean shit when it comes to Quality, nor even reviews now. Course I wouldn't doubt it that if he sold much higher people would be playing it with more rotation because some people just want to listen to music that's consider "popular" instead of actually listening to it for enjoyment. :/
The quality of music being released, makes me looks towards Mixtapes more and more for better work, because the Mixtape isn't usually designed 4 the Radio, it's there 4 fans or whatever.
Either way and The Southern Inspired single (while hated on here, is loved by the mainstream radios) is what helped the album keep it's mainstream buzz.
actually, cube stated that he didn't get radio play, because he's not on a major label, so...
Yeah, but the track is built 4 mainstream fans, even if he doesn't get Radio play the likely hood of She Couldn't Make it being heard more and DLed more buy mainstream fans wouldn't amaze me. I mean With the poor promotion that happened near the release date, I wouldn't be amazed if Ice Cube only sold Units just because of his Name alone.
Also 2 J-Funkion, yeah he did the album for fun, except the difference is he constantly promoted the album as being Straight West Coast G-Shit. He said it himself he can't help it, he made a gigantic Chin Check on the west 4 going pop and mainstream and abandoning there roots. Everything he said was on Point, and apparently this Album was suppose to back it up.
So I'm not amazed if the album is getting shat on for Merit alone. Personally with those south songs, it's made him a slight exercise in hypocrisy and that's just keeping it real. I like the album, (Even the weak joints, however if ur asking a review i'd still rip that shit apart).
All I'm waiting 4 now is Young Maylays new album & WCs. If WCs is anything like Guilty by Affiliation I'd be happy. 8)
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why iz everybody making excuses, it sold 22,000 so what
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22K is good numbers especially in 2010
Cube sold the most out the West this year behind E-40
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Anyone think CUBE finna jump on an interview to defend this album once he gets wind that many ain't feelin it as a strictly WEST COAST album?
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Who cares if it sold 1 million or 1 copy!!!!! Cube aint starving, he's still a rich person!!!!!Of course he wants to get paid, but it aint like he has to sell his house if his shit dont sell!!!
why do people give a damn....if u like it great, if not, then thats fair!!
I like Black women...if 9/10 other people dont, fcuk it, it aint gonna stop me!!!!!i'mma still enjoy it!!!
music is made for people to listen to, if you dont like it, dont listen to it, if you do then so be it!!!!
I'm a big Cube fan, but i aint gonna lose any sleep if his shit dont sell!!!!!
Jusy be fortunate you were around to listen to cube throughout the years!!!!! i know i am!!!!
as for She couldnt make iton her own, I been blasting that everywhere i go now, im loving it!!!!!!Album has grown on me, apart from the wack songs, the aveeage songs are starting to sound better!!!!!!!
ANYWAY, WE DONT NEED RECORD SALES TO JUDGE AN ALBUM....THANKFULLY WE HAVE OUR OWN EARS AND MINDS TO DECIDE IF WE LIKE IT OR NOT!!!
yeah, i admit its not his best stuff, but fcuk it, it aint gonna stop me buying his next album..
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If I had a dollar for everytime I saw somebody say something bad about an artist for selling under 30K, I'd be a millionaire.
Then people have the audacity to ask me why I think people are biased to the 90's lol.
"Damn, 22K? That's mad good."
"Who cares?"
Jokes, fellas, jokes.
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Anyone think CUBE finna jump on an interview to defend this album once he gets wind that many ain't feelin it as a strictly WEST COAST album?
Well, he kinda defended the "She Couldn't.." bullshit on his blog some time ago so I wouldn't be surprised at all :)
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If I had a dollar for everytime I saw somebody say something bad about an artist for selling under 30K, I'd be a millionaire.
Then people have the audacity to ask me why I think people are biased to the 90's lol.
"Damn, 22K? That's mad good."
"Who cares?"
Jokes, fellas, jokes.
Exactly my point. But misery loves company. If it would have sold 100k 1st week, some people would actually say well maybe we are being too harsh on the album, look at how many people bought it. When I a album tanks it is oh well that just reaffirmed what I have been saying all along that it's wack.
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So let me play devils advocate for a sec. If the album did say the same numbers as Wayne's new album, would your opinion on it change? Keep it 100 too people ;D
How much did waynes album sell? (I don't keep track with him). Either way it's already been talked about various times that sells don't mean shit when it comes to Quality, nor even reviews now. Course I wouldn't doubt it that if he sold much higher people would be playing it with more rotation because some people just want to listen to music that's consider "popular" instead of actually listening to it for enjoyment. :/
The quality of music being released, makes me looks towards Mixtapes more and more for better work, because the Mixtape isn't usually designed 4 the Radio, it's there 4 fans or whatever.
Either way and The Southern Inspired single (while hated on here, is loved by the mainstream radios) is what helped the album keep it's mainstream buzz.
actually, cube stated that he didn't get radio play, because he's not on a major label, so...
Yeah, but the track is built 4 mainstream fans, even if he doesn't get Radio play the likely hood of She Couldn't Make it being heard more and DLed more buy mainstream fans wouldn't amaze me. I mean With the poor promotion that happened near the release date, I wouldn't be amazed if Ice Cube only sold Units just because of his Name alone.
Also 2 J-Funkion, yeah he did the album for fun, except the difference is he constantly promoted the album as being Straight West Coast G-Shit. He said it himself he can't help it, he made a gigantic Chin Check on the west 4 going pop and mainstream and abandoning there roots. Everything he said was on Point, and apparently this Album was suppose to back it up.
So I'm not amazed if the album is getting shat on for Merit alone. Personally with those south songs, it's made him a slight exercise in hypocrisy and that's just keeping it real. I like the album, (Even the weak joints, however if ur asking a review i'd still rip that shit apart).
All I'm waiting 4 now is Young Maylays new album & WCs. If WCs is anything like Guilty by Affiliation I'd be happy. 8)
100k. And true on that but I see sooooo many times on these forums people be validating sales for a albums quality, good and bad.
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and The Southern Inspired single (while hated on here, is loved by the mainstream radios) is what helped the album keep it's mainstream buzz.
actually, cube stated that he didn't get radio play, because he's not on a major label, so...
Yeah, but the track is built 4 mainstream fans, even if he doesn't get Radio play the likely hood of She Couldn't Make it being heard more and DLed more buy mainstream fans wouldn't amaze me. I mean With the poor promotion that happened near the release date, I wouldn't be amazed if Ice Cube only sold Units just because of his Name alone.
true.
So let me play devils advocate for a sec. If the album did say the same numbers as Wayne's new album, would your opinion on it change? Keep it 100 too people ;D
probably not.
maybe i would make a sarcastic comment about the sales.
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and The Southern Inspired single (while hated on here, is loved by the mainstream radios) is what helped the album keep it's mainstream buzz.
actually, cube stated that he didn't get radio play, because he's not on a major label, so...
Yeah, but the track is built 4 mainstream fans, even if he doesn't get Radio play the likely hood of She Couldn't Make it being heard more and DLed more buy mainstream fans wouldn't amaze me. I mean With the poor promotion that happened near the release date, I wouldn't be amazed if Ice Cube only sold Units just because of his Name alone.
true.
So let me play devils advocate for a sec. If the album did say the same numbers as Wayne's new album, would your opinion on it change? Keep it 100 too people ;D
probably not.
maybe i would make a sarcastic comment about the sales.
LOL, all good. One thing I will say about you Dre is you don't dance around the subject. You either like it or you don't and that is a good thing.
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ice Cube is an O.G. He doesn't have to have huge record sales. Most of his tracks are for the True Riders, cuz. Not little bustas.
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and The Southern Inspired single (while hated on here, is loved by the mainstream radios) is what helped the album keep it's mainstream buzz.
actually, cube stated that he didn't get radio play, because he's not on a major label, so...
Yeah, but the track is built 4 mainstream fans, even if he doesn't get Radio play the likely hood of She Couldn't Make it being heard more and DLed more buy mainstream fans wouldn't amaze me. I mean With the poor promotion that happened near the release date, I wouldn't be amazed if Ice Cube only sold Units just because of his Name alone.
true.
So let me play devils advocate for a sec. If the album did say the same numbers as Wayne's new album, would your opinion on it change? Keep it 100 too people ;D
probably not.
maybe i would make a sarcastic comment about the sales.
LOL, all good. One thing I will say about you Dre is you don't dance around the subject. You either like it or you don't and that is a good thing.
thanks, i try to be honest, but i guess i can be a bit biased from time to time ;D
as you probably know, i appreciate your honesty as well.
your first reaction, after hearing the sampler of I am the west, proved this.
you're a big ice cube fan, you could have given him a pass ( not saying you would), but you didn't ;)
by the way, check your inbox, if you haven't done so yet
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and The Southern Inspired single (while hated on here, is loved by the mainstream radios) is what helped the album keep it's mainstream buzz.
actually, cube stated that he didn't get radio play, because he's not on a major label, so...
Yeah, but the track is built 4 mainstream fans, even if he doesn't get Radio play the likely hood of She Couldn't Make it being heard more and DLed more buy mainstream fans wouldn't amaze me. I mean With the poor promotion that happened near the release date, I wouldn't be amazed if Ice Cube only sold Units just because of his Name alone.
true.
So let me play devils advocate for a sec. If the album did say the same numbers as Wayne's new album, would your opinion on it change? Keep it 100 too people ;D
probably not.
maybe i would make a sarcastic comment about the sales.
LOL, all good. One thing I will say about you Dre is you don't dance around the subject. You either like it or you don't and that is a good thing.
thanks, i try to be honest, but i guess i can be a bit biased from time to time ;D
as you probably know, i appreciate your honesty as well.
your first reaction, after hearing the sampler of I am the west, proved this.
you're a big ice cube fan, you could have given him a pass ( not saying you would), but you didn't ;)
by the way, check your inbox, if you haven't done so yet
Yeah I got it, thanks. I appreciate that. Might as well be honest about it, it is Cube's worst album by a country mile.
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you're welcome.
i may make a poll about ice cube's worst album later
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ice Cube is an O.G. He doesn't have to have huge record sales. Most of his tracks are for the True Riders, cuz. Not little bustas.
I gotta keep it 100, no true Rida I know is gonna ride around bumpin a song whose hook is, "Google me bitch, I told her to Google me bitch". I don't care if the album sold 1 mil the 1st week, I ain't feelin the majority of I Am THE WEST. I guess I'm from the Old School, where you buy a record for content, not album sales. I ain't never bought an album cuz of soundscan. 8)
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So let me play devils advocate for a sec. If the album did say the same numbers as Wayne's new album, would your opinion on it change? Keep it 100 too people ;D
How much did waynes album sell? (I don't keep track with him). Either way it's already been talked about various times that sells don't mean shit when it comes to Quality, nor even reviews now. Course I wouldn't doubt it that if he sold much higher people would be playing it with more rotation because some people just want to listen to music that's consider "popular" instead of actually listening to it for enjoyment. :/
The quality of music being released, makes me looks towards Mixtapes more and more for better work, because the Mixtape isn't usually designed 4 the Radio, it's there 4 fans or whatever.
Either way and The Southern Inspired single (while hated on here, is loved by the mainstream radios) is what helped the album keep it's mainstream buzz.
actually, cube stated that he didn't get radio play, because he's not on a major label, so...
Yeah, but the track is built 4 mainstream fans, even if he doesn't get Radio play the likely hood of She Couldn't Make it being heard more and DLed more buy mainstream fans wouldn't amaze me. I mean With the poor promotion that happened near the release date, I wouldn't be amazed if Ice Cube only sold Units just because of his Name alone.
Also 2 J-Funkion, yeah he did the album for fun, except the difference is he constantly promoted the album as being Straight West Coast G-Shit. He said it himself he can't help it, he made a gigantic Chin Check on the west 4 going pop and mainstream and abandoning there roots. Everything he said was on Point, and apparently this Album was suppose to back it up.
So I'm not amazed if the album is getting shat on for Merit alone. Personally with those south songs, it's made him a slight exercise in hypocrisy and that's just keeping it real. I like the album, (Even the weak joints, however if ur asking a review i'd still rip that shit apart).
All I'm waiting 4 now is Young Maylays new album & WCs. If WCs is anything like Guilty by Affiliation I'd be happy. 8)
100k. And true on that but I see sooooo many times on these forums people be validating sales for a albums quality, good and bad.
lol people who role like that need 2 check there thinking. I doesn't make sense imo. ice Cube is an O.G. He doesn't have to have huge record sales. Most of his tracks are for the True Riders, cuz. Not little bustas.
I gotta keep it 100, no true Rida I know is gonna ride around bumpin a song whose hook is, "Google me bitch, I told her to Google me bitch". I don't care if the album sold 1 mil the 1st week, I ain't feelin the majority of I Am THE WEST. I guess I'm from the Old School, where you buy a record for content, not album sales. I ain't never bought an album cuz of soundscan. 8)
Yeah, we be rolling with stuff like "Life in California". Some of these tracks are perfect 4 cruising, I wish though he had a track that's perfect 4 parties. LNCL's Go 2 Church got mad play and was perfect 4 parties(the track and album still get heavy rotation in my playlist).
I'm wondering If he did do work with Quick and others, Will he leak it??? 8)
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No Country for Young Men is a top notch track..
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I agree that this was a terrible effort on Cube's part. I only keep 5 tracks in rotation. 5 out of 16 (18 itunes bonus tracks) is not a good album, period. I was bangin Young Maylay's The Real Coast Guard last night, thats a West Coast album. That shit bangs from beginning to end. The title led everyone to think it was going to be a West Coast instant classic. Big let down, plain and simple. KAM needs to release SELF & KIND already, DAMN! 8)
I am a loyal fan but garbage is garbage.
can you pmme that maylay album nukka? thanks
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I ain't never bought an album cuz of soundscan.
Co-sign.
And I don't know anybody who does. Why do people say that other people buy albums just to fit in with what's popular? I don't know anybody who bases their purchasing decisions based on what's popular. That's a straw man argument for anybody who's trying to push that. I'm not sure I understand Cham's argument and if it's related, but the reason why people are biased to the 90s is because the music was just plain better back then in a lot of people's opinions. Sure, if something as groundbreaking as The Chronic were to come out today, it wouldn't push as many units as The Chronic did back in the day, but relative to other contemporary sales-numbers, it would sell well. At the end of the day, quality wins out, relative to standard mediocrity, and consumers will reward it. There are always exceptions to the rule (e.g. Illmatic didn't sell well), but on balance, if you really look at the numbers from a macro perspective, and if we were to compile a list of classics and look at their sales, you will see that they sold well it you were to average it out, relative to non-classic albums. Now, you could argue that list of classics we compile is biased toward albums that sold well, because people base what they consider to be "classics" based on what were the best sellers, but, again, I don't think those same so-called classics would still be fondly heralded and remembered today if they were labelled "classics" only for their sales-numbers rather than their actual music quality.
My point is Cube made an album any rapper could have made, and rule of thumb is that if you make any old rap album, you will sell just like any old rapper. If it weren't for Cube's loyal fan base and name recognition, he would have sold a lot worse based on the blase, mediocre, indistinguished quality of the album.
He needs to go back to having sociopolitical substance. I laugh that he says I am the West is for his hardcore fans -- no, it's not. His hardcore fans want sociopolitical substance, which is what made him so great and so revered in the first place. I am the West is for the non-hardcore Cube fans.
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All I'm saying is, when some artists into today's game don't sell, people jump all over them for it.
I specifically remember people saying Ultimate Victory wasn't good & one of it's reasons was because it didn't sell lol. Same goes for Joe Budden's Padded Room & the Slaughterhouse album. I recall somebody saying it for Jay Rock & Bishop Lamont too. "Oh those guys will never sell".
Now Ice Cube drops an album, does awful. A hundred-thousand copies worse than his last album & people are acting like "Oh, no big deal, it's Cube. Cube is the man. Doesn't matter what he does".
& I've always had a thing where I feel that people just defend 90's artists for the fact that most of you grew up on it & feel some type of loyalty to it. & loyalty is a form of bias.
I'm not saying Cube didn't sell because the album sucks. I'm not denying the fact that he had little to absolutely no promotion. It was set-up to do poor numbers regardless of how good the content was. It's just, people are playing it off like it's "not a big deal" & some people even said those are "good numbers". Where I know for a fact if this was a Game album or Ya Boy or J. Cole & sold 22K copies, people would like "God damn, that's terrible". But Cube gets some legends pass & it disgusts me.
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All I'm saying is, when some artists into today's game don't sell, people jump all over them for it.
I specifically remember people saying Ultimate Victory wasn't good & one of it's reasons was because it didn't sell lol. Same goes for Joe Budden's Padded Room & the Slaughterhouse album. I recall somebody saying it for Jay Rock & Bishop Lamont too. "Oh those guys will never sell".
Now Ice Cube drops an album, does awful. A hundred-thousand copies worse than his last album & people are acting like "Oh, no big deal, it's Cube. Cube is the man. Doesn't matter what he does".
& I've always had a thing where I feel that people just defend 90's artists for the fact that most of you grew up on it & feel some type of loyalty to it. & loyalty is a form of bias.
I'm not saying Cube didn't sell because the album sucks. I'm not denying the fact that he had little to absolutely no promotion. It was set-up to do poor numbers regardless of how good the content was. It's just, people are playing it off like it's "not a big deal" & some people even said those are "good numbers". Where I know for a fact if this was a Game album or Ya Boy or J. Cole & sold 22K copies, people would like "God damn, that's terrible". But Cube gets some legends pass & it disgusts me.
The album is mediocre, and I'm assuming that's why it sold poorly. And most people on here thought it was disappointing so not sure where you're coming from. Not that sales has anything to do with quality, but your first reply here was to bring back a Slaughterhouse relevance argument from over a year ago and saying things that aren't even true. I'm just sayin....
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I'm not saying Cube didn't sell because the album sucks. I'm not denying the fact that he had little to absolutely no promotion. It was set-up to do poor numbers regardless of how good the content was.
Ok. I think we are talking about two different issues, so let's go our separate ways in this thread. I'm sorry to bring you into this, because you and I aren't addressing the same topic of conversation. But in response to the part of your post that I quoted above, I am saying Cube's album didn't sell well because the album sucks. Again, he made an album for non-hardcore Cube fans, regardless of the b.s. he says in opposite in interviews. And history shows that if you turn your back on your fanbase, they will turn their backs on you (hello, Snoop).
Raw Footage sold ok because it had a great single "Gangsta Rap Made Me Do It," which was both sociopolitically-minded and enjoyable. A great single for Cube and one that his fans could support. Laugh Now, Cry Later -- I'm still shocked that that album sold so well. He was lucky to be able to ride the Lil' John gravy train when that fad was in motion. Plus, it had the feel of a comeback, because Cube hadn't dropped an album in a long time, so his fans went out and copped it because they were curious and hungry for new Cube, regardless.
I think this idea that an artist needs to have good promotion is anachronistic in this day and age, especially with the Internet. All the Cube fans know that he has an album out called I Am the West. Is there anybody out there who would be a good candidate to buy I am the West but don't know that it exists? I don't think so. I think everybody who would buy the album knows that it exists. The thing is this: In the age of the Internet, good word of mouth is essential. Not everybody is going to take the time to illegally d.l. the album, but nearly everybody has access to the Internet and can read other fans' poor reviews of I am the West when it leaks and conclude they're not going to buy the album as a result.
I am the West has bad word of mouth -- that's negative promotion, and that's what has hurt Cube's sales numbers. Again, it comes down to quality. If this were a true album for Cube's hardcore fanbase, word of mouth would spread like wildfire around the Internet and people would go out and buy the album. It's not because of lack of promo that Cube's album isn't selling -- it's because of bad word of mouth due to the album's poor quality.
Just my analysis.
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Internet kills the sales, and it will kill the artists too soon, when they feel their are done with it.
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All I gotta say is: Cube is outdated.
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There was more of a buzz right around the time he dropped "I Rep That West"......think he waited to long to drop the album IMO and the buzz died down
Plus album not as strong as his previous two.
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Sales hardly has anything to do with quality of an album. Look at these crooked I groupies on here...they are gonna buy anything he is involved with no matter what...good or bad. Cube's fanbase that he built during the 90's just simply doesn't buy albums anymore. I didn't even download the album (I plan to later, but just not really that excited about it). Even if it was a classic album, I still wouldn't buy it. I own enough albums. I grew up in the hey day of westcoast rap, when cube was selling millions...I have bought plenty of albums. I'm sure most cube fans feel the same way.
The lil kids that were not even alive when NWA was around...they just will never understand.
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i bought a copy- not bad but not great
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I'm not saying Cube didn't sell because the album sucks. I'm not denying the fact that he had little to absolutely no promotion. It was set-up to do poor numbers regardless of how good the content was.
Ok. I think we are talking about two different issues, so let's go our separate ways in this thread. I'm sorry to bring you into this, because you and I aren't addressing the same topic of conversation. But in response to the part of your post that I quoted above, I am saying Cube's album didn't sell well because the album sucks. Again, he made an album for non-hardcore Cube fans, regardless of the b.s. he says in opposite in interviews. And history shows that if you turn your back on your fanbase, they will turn their backs on you (hello, Snoop).
Raw Footage sold ok because it had a great single "Gangsta Rap Made Me Do It," which was both sociopolitically-minded and enjoyable. A great single for Cube and one that his fans could support. Laugh Now, Cry Later -- I'm still shocked that that album sold so well. He was lucky to be able to ride the Lil' John gravy train when that fad was in motion. Plus, it had the feel of a comeback, because Cube hadn't dropped an album in a long time, so his fans went out and copped it because they were curious and hungry for new Cube, regardless.
I think this idea that an artist needs to have good promotion is anachronistic in this day and age, especially with the Internet. All the Cube fans know that he has an album out called I Am the West. Is there anybody out there who would be a good candidate to buy I am the West but don't know that it exists? I don't think so. I think everybody who would buy the album knows that it exists. The thing is this: In the age of the Internet, good word of mouth is essential. Not everybody is going to take the time to illegally d.l. the album, but nearly everybody has access to the Internet and can read other fans' poor reviews of I am the West when it leaks and conclude they're not going to buy the album as a result.
I am the West has bad word of mouth -- that's negative promotion, and that's what has hurt Cube's sales numbers. Again, it comes down to quality. If this were a true album for Cube's hardcore fanbase, word of mouth would spread like wildfire around the Internet and people would go out and buy the album. It's not because of lack of promo that Cube's album isn't selling -- it's because of bad word of mouth due to the album's poor quality.
Just my analysis.
but what about It was a good day?
the predator is his best selling album
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I'm not saying Cube didn't sell because the album sucks. I'm not denying the fact that he had little to absolutely no promotion. It was set-up to do poor numbers regardless of how good the content was.
Ok. I think we are talking about two different issues, so let's go our separate ways in this thread. I'm sorry to bring you into this, because you and I aren't addressing the same topic of conversation. But in response to the part of your post that I quoted above, I am saying Cube's album didn't sell well because the album sucks. Again, he made an album for non-hardcore Cube fans, regardless of the b.s. he says in opposite in interviews. And history shows that if you turn your back on your fanbase, they will turn their backs on you (hello, Snoop).
Raw Footage sold ok because it had a great single "Gangsta Rap Made Me Do It," which was both sociopolitically-minded and enjoyable. A great single for Cube and one that his fans could support. Laugh Now, Cry Later -- I'm still shocked that that album sold so well. He was lucky to be able to ride the Lil' John gravy train when that fad was in motion. Plus, it had the feel of a comeback, because Cube hadn't dropped an album in a long time, so his fans went out and copped it because they were curious and hungry for new Cube, regardless.
I think this idea that an artist needs to have good promotion is anachronistic in this day and age, especially with the Internet. All the Cube fans know that he has an album out called I Am the West. Is there anybody out there who would be a good candidate to buy I am the West but don't know that it exists? I don't think so. I think everybody who would buy the album knows that it exists. The thing is this: In the age of the Internet, good word of mouth is essential. Not everybody is going to take the time to illegally d.l. the album, but nearly everybody has access to the Internet and can read other fans' poor reviews of I am the West when it leaks and conclude they're not going to buy the album as a result.
I am the West has bad word of mouth -- that's negative promotion, and that's what has hurt Cube's sales numbers. Again, it comes down to quality. If this were a true album for Cube's hardcore fanbase, word of mouth would spread like wildfire around the Internet and people would go out and buy the album. It's not because of lack of promo that Cube's album isn't selling -- it's because of bad word of mouth due to the album's poor quality.
Just my analysis.
See but that is the thing, alot of fans of Cube that I know and talked to did not know the album was coming out. I know a ton of people that really do not frequent the blogs and hip hop sites like most of us do. And if you think about it, that is a handful of sites. LNCL had commericals, videos on BET, I mean he said on his blog he did a show on 106 but that is a lil late in the promo game. The promo for this album was very shaky and throw together at best and just not planned out as well as his first 2 indie albums.
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i bought all of cubes past albums , but I am west i just didnt care to buy or listen again to it .
its not worth buying really . just keepin it real
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All I gotta say is: Cube is outdated.
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Oshay aint outdated, it just dont matter. I think thats tha most honest accessment u kan make rite now. Dude made an album called ``i am the west`` thru an Independent label, how big of an album did u think he wuz tryna make it? he said what he had to say and kept it at that, Im sure we`ll get a new movie or sumthin next year. Am I tripn or didnt Lottery Ticket just come out not too long ago too, I think sum ppl r just overreacting as usual.
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All I gotta say is: Cube is outdated.
I thought it's da the truth. Tired of his sorry azz with his shitty attitude saying "i'm the shit."
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An Ice Cube album release used to an epic occasion.
I Am The West South : B-budget, cheesy computer beats, dumbed down lyrics.
Cube used to take pride in his music, but this was a custard pie in the face of his fans.
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An Ice Cube album release used to an epic occasion.
I Am The West South : B-budget, cheesy computer beats, dumbed down lyrics.
Cube used to take pride in his music, but this was a custard pie in the face of his fans.
more like he got creampied.
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http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.12585/title.hip-hop-album-sales-the-week-ending-10-10-2010
Ice Cube's first album in two years fell to #54. The controversially-titled I Am The West, debuted 32 places higher last week, though it now cleared the 30,000 overall mark. Released through Cube's own Lench Mob Records, the aggressive collection of songs featured fellow west coast pioneer WC, as well as veteran Jayo Felony and Cube's son, OMG. I Am The West featured a reunion with 24-year production partner Sir Jinx, as well as iTunes bonus tracks produced by E-A-Ski and DJ Quik
Ice Cube - I Am The West
2nd week position: 54
2nd week sales: 8,400
total sales 31,000
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cube been DONE you niggaz on here are the only ones still checking for dis nigga. he's done , its wrap, move on
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hate to say it, the tracks for the most part were incredibly weak. Beat selection was terrible. It did have a few good tracks though.
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All I gotta say is: Cube is outdated.
He isnt outdated he just made a weak album , Laugh Now , Cry Later was dope and it came out a few years ago .
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There was more of a buzz right around the time he dropped "I Rep That West"......think he waited to long to drop the album IMO and the buzz died down
Exactly what happened then he released some weak singles after
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LMAO THIS NIGGA CANT EVEN OUTSELL SLAUGHTERHOUSE HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
but he still made more money off this album then slaughterhouse did on there album
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All I'm saying is, when some artists into today's game don't sell, people jump all over them for it.
I specifically remember people saying Ultimate Victory wasn't good & one of it's reasons was because it didn't sell lol. Same goes for Joe Budden's Padded Room & the Slaughterhouse album. I recall somebody saying it for Jay Rock & Bishop Lamont too. "Oh those guys will never sell".
Now Ice Cube drops an album, does awful. A hundred-thousand copies worse than his last album & people are acting like "Oh, no big deal, it's Cube. Cube is the man. Doesn't matter what he does".
& I've always had a thing where I feel that people just defend 90's artists for the fact that most of you grew up on it & feel some type of loyalty to it. & loyalty is a form of bias.
I'm not saying Cube didn't sell because the album sucks. I'm not denying the fact that he had little to absolutely no promotion. It was set-up to do poor numbers regardless of how good the content was. It's just, people are playing it off like it's "not a big deal" & some people even said those are "good numbers". Where I know for a fact if this was a Game album or Ya Boy or J. Cole & sold 22K copies, people would like "God damn, that's terrible". But Cube gets some legends pass & it disgusts me.
he gets a pass because he earned unlike game,ya boy ,& j.cole who are not O.g.s in this rap game . ieverybody you names who don't get a pass does not deserve a pass because the never earned it yet like ice cube . being a o.g or veteran gives that right because they put in the work & time. it sounds like you are jealous that favorite artist does not get the same treatment but your favorite artist has not earned it like ice cube. they are good numbers for an independent album with not promotion really at all.
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" No Country for Young Men " was a very good track ..
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All I gotta say is: Cube is outdated.
He isnt outdated he just made a weak album , Laugh Now , Cry Later was dope and it came out a few years ago .
I never felt his laugh now album. The last album that I actually felt was his peace album. Ice cube is just following some homo ass music trend.
Maybe that album is cool to you, but the cube that I once knew is someone who rapped over g funk shit. example, let it reign.
Also, I'm tired of his I'm the shit attitude.
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All I gotta say is: Cube is outdated.
He isnt outdated he just made a weak album , Laugh Now , Cry Later was dope and it came out a few years ago .
I never felt his laugh now album. The last album that I actually felt was his peace album. Ice cube is just following some homo ass music trend.
Maybe that album is cool to you, but the cube that I once knew is someone who rapped over g funk shit. example, let it reign.
Also, I'm tired of his I'm the shit attitude.
noooooooot. Lol he didn't even touch g funk til his 4th album.
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raekwon is old but he put out a quality album that appeals to his fanbase not the mainstream and that sold well...........cube is a big name that coulda done the same but this shit had alot of garbage thats why even his stans didnt buy it
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At the end of the day, some people was feelin the album, others were not. None can say this was a tight album from beginning to end. Many skips on this album. 1 or 2 tight tracks, does not make a classic. 8)
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Ice Cube still doing better than your fav. rapper (unless your fav rapper is Cube). He keeps his money being indie. There's no label taking 10% from his shows, from his promo's. Every week, the anthem played for Prime Time on NFL Network, is Ice Cube. There's no label taking 50% from that. Cube gets paid more from 22k than Rick Ross gets from 200K