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Title: Raekwon - Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang (Tracklist)
Post by: TRG on January 15, 2011, 03:04:20 PM
(http://www.thesermonsdomain.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/20110112-SHAOLIN.jpg)

1. Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang
2. Every Soldier In The Hood ft. Method Man
3. Silver Rings ft. Ghostface Killah
4. Ferryboat Killaz
5. The Scroll
6. Masters Of Our Fate ft. Black Thought
7. Rich And Black ft. Nas
8. Butter Knives
9. Crane Style ft. Busta Rhymes
10. Chop Chop Ninja ft. Inspectah Deck & Estelle
11. From The Hills ft. Method Man & Raheem DeVaughn
12. Last Train To Scotland ft. Lloyd Banks
13. Rock N Roll ft. Jim Jones, Ghostface Killah & Kobe
14. Molasses ft. Rick Ross & Ghostface Killah
15. Dart School
16. Snake Pond
17. Wu Chant (Outro)


Khalil track 13?? (just judging by the Kobe feature lol)
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Post by: Back2Back on January 15, 2011, 03:55:38 PM
Damn can't wait!
Title: Re: Raekkwon - Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang (Tracklist)
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on January 15, 2011, 04:19:24 PM
fuck Rick Ross
Title: Re: Raekkwon - Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang (Tracklist)
Post by: Action! on January 15, 2011, 04:30:18 PM
Dope ass features: lloyd banks, nas, busta and black thought
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Post by: Jome on January 15, 2011, 05:32:19 PM
Dope ass features: lloyd banks, nas, busta and black thought

Yup, and let's not forget Kobe, Meth & Ghost.. could do without Jim Jones & Rick Ross though.

Title: Re: Raekkwon - Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang (Tracklist)
Post by: The Ultimate Pianist on January 15, 2011, 06:54:22 PM
Khalil track 13?? (just judging by the Kobe feature lol)

My thought exactly. Would be DOPE to hear them collaborate.

What's with the Ross hate tho ? Music is just entertainment. Who cares if he's a fat liar ? Can't music be like a book, fictional ? Dude has an impeccable ear for beats and his raps aren't that bad. There's much worse out there... just my humble opinion.
Title: Re: Raekkwon - Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang (Tracklist)
Post by: LAZY on January 15, 2011, 07:39:36 PM
judging by the tracklist itll be dope. whats the release date?
Title: Re: Raekkwon - Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang (Tracklist)
Post by: Black Friday on January 15, 2011, 08:04:27 PM
judging by the tracklist itll be dope. whats the release date?

March 8th I believe
Title: Re: Raekkwon - Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang (Tracklist)
Post by: Action! on January 15, 2011, 09:34:52 PM
Fuck Rick Ross.  He's a gimmick.  I don't care if his beats are nice.  His rhymes aren't.  He's the example of what's wrong with hip-hop.  He's a "on loan" "rent a rapper" artist.  He's getting his pockets rapped by everyone from diddy to his label.
Title: Re: Raekkwon - Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang (Tracklist)
Post by: doggfather on January 16, 2011, 12:28:28 AM
like the cover.


The Ghostface albums got the same artist to featuring, doesn't?!
Title: Re: Raekkwon - Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang (Tracklist)
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on January 16, 2011, 12:37:03 AM
Fuck Rick Ross.  He's a gimmick.  I don't care if his beats are nice.  His rhymes aren't.  He's the example of what's wrong with hip-hop.  He's a "on loan" "rent a rapper" artist.  He's getting his pockets rapped by everyone from diddy to his label.

I think he'd make a good producer. Imagine him coming out with compilations where he just chooses beats and rappers. He just needs to stop rapping himself.
Title: Re: Raekkwon - Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang (Tracklist)
Post by: Meho on January 16, 2011, 01:44:02 AM
Ross has been killing it lately. He's not just a average rapper with dope beats anymore. He killed Devil In A New Dress or that new Transporter joint. Rae & Ross already dropped a dope joint on Teflon Don, I bet he's gonna have a great verse on this one too. Who cares if  he's a gimmick or if Diddy is taking all his money. It's all about the music. I'd take him over Banks's boring ass any day.
Title: Re: Raekkwon - Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang (Tracklist)
Post by: Anunikke on January 16, 2011, 01:48:57 AM
That's the cover for the single.

Cilvaringz produced Silver Rings, well it would be a surprise if he didn't.
Title: Re: Raekkwon - Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang (Tracklist)
Post by: doggfather on January 16, 2011, 03:24:12 AM
That's the cover for the single.


Oh, I tourght for the album.
Anyway, is there a cover for the album?!
Title: Re: Raekkwon - Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang (Tracklist)
Post by: The Ultimate Pianist on January 16, 2011, 06:49:35 AM
Ross has been killing it lately. He's not just a average rapper with dope beats anymore. He killed Devil In A New Dress or that new Transporter joint. Rae & Ross already dropped a dope joint on Teflon Don, I bet he's gonna have a great verse on this one too. Who cares if  he's a gimmick or if Diddy is taking all his money. It's all about the music. I'd take him over Banks's boring ass any day.

Agreed.
But i respect the opinions of those who disagree.
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Post by: Invincible on January 16, 2011, 07:14:27 AM
Ross has been killing it lately. He's not just a average rapper with dope beats anymore. He killed Devil In A New Dress or that new Transporter joint. Rae & Ross already dropped a dope joint on Teflon Don, I bet he's gonna have a great verse on this one too. Who cares if  he's a gimmick or if Diddy is taking all his money. It's all about the music. I'd take him over Banks's boring ass any day.

He's not the kind of artist I want on a Wu record. I mean, GZA doesn't even feature on the album.
Title: Re: Raekkwon - Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang (Tracklist)
Post by: Meho on January 16, 2011, 08:57:35 AM
Ross has been killing it lately. He's not just a average rapper with dope beats anymore. He killed Devil In A New Dress or that new Transporter joint. Rae & Ross already dropped a dope joint on Teflon Don, I bet he's gonna have a great verse on this one too. Who cares if  he's a gimmick or if Diddy is taking all his money. It's all about the music. I'd take him over Banks's boring ass any day.

He's not the kind of artist I want on a Wu record. I mean, GZA doesn't even feature on the album.

That's a different argument, more normal I should say. We'll see. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Title: Re: Raekwon - Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang (Tracklist)
Post by: wcsoldier on January 16, 2011, 08:59:21 AM
Rae said a while ago that half of the album will have that vintage Wu sound, the other being more mainstream .... will see how it turns out ...
Title: Re: Raekkwon - Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang (Tracklist)
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on January 16, 2011, 09:12:03 AM
Ross has been killing it lately. He's not just a average rapper with dope beats anymore. He killed Devil In A New Dress

As in ruined the point of the song? Yes, he did.
Title: Re: Raekkwon - Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang (Tracklist)
Post by: Matty on January 16, 2011, 09:32:22 AM
Ross has been killing it lately. He's not just a average rapper with dope beats anymore. He killed Devil In A New Dress

As in ruined the point of the song? Yes, he did.

:laugh: ross sucks, end of story. he's not an average rapper, just a terrible one.

'haters' gon' hate :nahnah:
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Post by: SCREWFACE on January 16, 2011, 09:34:55 AM
Ross has been killing it lately. He's not just a average rapper with dope beats anymore. He killed Devil In A New Dress or that new Transporter joint. Rae & Ross already dropped a dope joint on Teflon Don, I bet he's gonna have a great verse on this one too. Who cares if  he's a gimmick or if Diddy is taking all his money. It's all about the music. I'd take him over Banks's boring ass any day.

He's not the kind of artist I want on a Wu record. I mean, GZA doesn't even feature on the album.

let be real though, liquid swords is over 15 years old, and gza hasnt done anything hot since then. some of his other albums are OK but cmon... i hate to say it but dude is washed up
Title: Re: Raekkwon - Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang (Tracklist)
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on January 16, 2011, 09:59:26 AM
Ross has been killing it lately. He's not just a average rapper with dope beats anymore. He killed Devil In A New Dress or that new Transporter joint. Rae & Ross already dropped a dope joint on Teflon Don, I bet he's gonna have a great verse on this one too. Who cares if  he's a gimmick or if Diddy is taking all his money. It's all about the music. I'd take him over Banks's boring ass any day.

He's not the kind of artist I want on a Wu record. I mean, GZA doesn't even feature on the album.

let be real though, liquid swords is over 15 years old, and gza hasnt done anything hot since then. some of his other albums are OK but cmon... i hate to say it but dude is washed up

Are you serious here? You sound like you havent even listened to any of his other albums.
Title: Re: Raekkwon - Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang (Tracklist)
Post by: Invincible on January 16, 2011, 10:07:32 AM
Ross has been killing it lately. He's not just a average rapper with dope beats anymore. He killed Devil In A New Dress or that new Transporter joint. Rae & Ross already dropped a dope joint on Teflon Don, I bet he's gonna have a great verse on this one too. Who cares if  he's a gimmick or if Diddy is taking all his money. It's all about the music. I'd take him over Banks's boring ass any day.

He's not the kind of artist I want on a Wu record. I mean, GZA doesn't even feature on the album.

let be real though, liquid swords is over 15 years old, and gza hasnt done anything hot since then. some of his other albums are OK but cmon... i hate to say it but dude is washed up

You telling me you would rather listen to a Rick Ross verse than a GZA verse? Grandmasters was dope as was Pro Tools. Just keep listening to Teflon Don telling yourself it's great music.
Title: Re: Raekwon - Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang (Tracklist)
Post by: Anunikke on January 16, 2011, 10:15:46 AM
Since when have rae & gza been working together on solo material?
They have like 5 tracks together in their combined discography.

GZA released a fucking classic with muggs 5 years ago, beneath the surface wasn't too bad either.
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Post by: Blood$ on January 16, 2011, 11:13:48 AM
can't wait, gonna be a great album
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Post by: operation stackola on January 16, 2011, 11:42:22 AM
Sick lookin tracklist. This is gonna be another Wu banger!
Title: Re: Raekwon - Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang (Tracklist)
Post by: doggfather on January 16, 2011, 11:33:00 PM
GZA released a fucking classic with muggs 5 years ago

YES!
And don't forget about pro tools!
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Post by: Paul on January 17, 2011, 09:06:31 AM
Raes gonna release his 3rd classic.

Ross and Capo are dope.
Title: Re: Raekkwon - Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang (Tracklist)
Post by: SCREWFACE on January 17, 2011, 09:12:58 AM
Ross has been killing it lately. He's not just a average rapper with dope beats anymore. He killed Devil In A New Dress or that new Transporter joint. Rae & Ross already dropped a dope joint on Teflon Don, I bet he's gonna have a great verse on this one too. Who cares if  he's a gimmick or if Diddy is taking all his money. It's all about the music. I'd take him over Banks's boring ass any day.

He's not the kind of artist I want on a Wu record. I mean, GZA doesn't even feature on the album.

let be real though, liquid swords is over 15 years old, and gza hasnt done anything hot since then. some of his other albums are OK but cmon... i hate to say it but dude is washed up

You telling me you would rather listen to a Rick Ross verse than a GZA verse? Grandmasters was dope as was Pro Tools. Just keep listening to Teflon Don telling yourself it's great music.

honestly? yeah i would because ross is dropping hot verses right now and gza isnt. i a huge wu fan but ill admit when their output is poor. i have heard every single gza album and most of them range from good to ok. pro tools was boring and just felt like legend of the liquid sword pt 2 but not even as good. and a 50 cent diss? lmao it just seemed like a bitter old man screaming at kids to get off the lawn. so anyone who wants to step as if i dont know shit about gza then go for it cause ill at least admit when a rapper has released boring material and hasnt done anything exciting in their career except for one album.
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Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on January 17, 2011, 12:14:07 PM
honestly? yeah i would because ross is dropping hot verses right now and gza isnt.

This is a flatout lie. I want to see you post the hottest ross verse, and then I'll post a random GZA verse from protools and we'll compare them. Its not even close. Ross can make hot songs but he's no lyricist.
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Post by: SCREWFACE on January 17, 2011, 01:45:30 PM
honestly? yeah i would because ross is dropping hot verses right now and gza isnt.

This is a flatout lie. I want to see you post the hottest ross verse, and then I'll post a random GZA verse from protools and we'll compare them. Its not even close. Ross can make hot songs but he's no lyricist.

man lets be fair, im not agree with u and and arent gonna agree with me, so whats the point.  ive listened to pro-tools, and im not saying its bad, im not saying the quality of the rhymes are bad, im saying its boring.  it might sound good but that type of rap has been done a milllion times over, gzas flow is the same damn 94 flow and same damn 94 lyrical content and id rather hear rick ross than that, sorry.
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Post by: Anunikke on January 17, 2011, 02:56:16 PM
honestly? yeah i would because ross is dropping hot verses right now and gza isnt.

This is a flatout lie. I want to see you post the hottest ross verse, and then I'll post a random GZA verse from protools and we'll compare them. Its not even close. Ross can make hot songs but he's no lyricist.

man lets be fair, im not agree with u and and arent gonna agree with me, so whats the point.  ive listened to pro-tools, and im not saying its bad, im not saying the quality of the rhymes are bad, im saying its boring.  it might sound good but that type of rap has been done a milllion times over, gzas flow is the same damn 94 flow and same damn 94 lyrical content and id rather hear rick ross than that, sorry.
give us your thoughts on grandmasters.
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Post by: Jome on January 17, 2011, 04:04:26 PM
I can't believe that this turned into a "Rick Ross is better than GZA" discussion.. what is the world coming to?  :-X
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Post by: Matty on January 17, 2011, 04:15:24 PM
I can't believe that this turned into a "Rick Ross is better than GZA" discussion.. what is the world coming to?  :-X

didn't you hear, ross isn't just about good beats these days, he's somehow a decent rapper/vocalist too :laugh:
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Post by: sav on January 17, 2011, 04:27:55 PM
can't wait, gonna be a great album
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Post by: The Overfiend on January 17, 2011, 06:26:12 PM
Rick Ross is awesome. He isn't a lyrcial grandamster like a lot of the Wu, but rap isn't just about lyrics.
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Post by: Invincible on January 17, 2011, 06:29:16 PM
Rick Ross is awesome. He isn't a lyrcial grandamster like a lot of the Wu, but rap isn't just about lyrics.

So if its not about his lyrics, what other things about him are awesome?
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Post by: dubsmith_nz on January 18, 2011, 12:11:14 AM
Khalil track 13?? (just judging by the Kobe feature lol)

My thought exactly. Would be DOPE to hear them collaborate.

What's with the Ross hate tho ? Music is just entertainment. Who cares if he's a fat liar ? Can't music be like a book, fictional ? Dude has an impeccable ear for beats and his raps aren't that bad. There's much worse out there... just my humble opinion.

He has the same flow on every track and his bars are trash. Plus he's a fake cunt...


Looking forward to this album, anyone know the production credits? Rza got many beats?
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Post by: The Predator on January 18, 2011, 02:46:41 AM
Rick 'Get Ya Ass In That Cell, Boy' Ross....pfffft.

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Post by: Paul on January 18, 2011, 04:18:55 AM
Ross isnt amazing but hes def not in the same boat as Soulja boy, Gucce Mane, Wacka Flocka etc like some of you guys make out.
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Post by: Blood$ on January 18, 2011, 05:45:54 AM
Ross isnt amazing but hes def not in the same boat as Soulja boy, Gucce Mane, Wacka Flocka etc like some of you guys make out.
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Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on January 18, 2011, 08:02:57 AM
Ross isnt amazing but hes def not in the same boat as Soulja boy, Gucce Mane, Wacka Flocka etc like some of you guys make out.

He's not any better at rapping than Gucci Mane
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Post by: Paul on January 18, 2011, 08:20:16 AM
Ross isnt amazing but hes def not in the same boat as Soulja boy, Gucce Mane, Wacka Flocka etc like some of you guys make out.

He's not any better at rapping than Gucci Mane

Yeah he is. He has a better flow and mic presence for starters.
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Post by: SCREWFACE on January 18, 2011, 12:36:37 PM
honestly? yeah i would because ross is dropping hot verses right now and gza isnt.

This is a flatout lie. I want to see you post the hottest ross verse, and then I'll post a random GZA verse from protools and we'll compare them. Its not even close. Ross can make hot songs but he's no lyricist.

man lets be fair, im not agree with u and and arent gonna agree with me, so whats the point.  ive listened to pro-tools, and im not saying its bad, im not saying the quality of the rhymes are bad, im saying its boring.  it might sound good but that type of rap has been done a milllion times over, gzas flow is the same damn 94 flow and same damn 94 lyrical content and id rather hear rick ross than that, sorry.
give us your thoughts on grandmasters.

its the best of gza solo work other than liquid swords, but its by no means classic. just a good release. and honestly i preffered the sick jacken one
Title: Re: Raekwon - Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang (Tracklist)
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on January 18, 2011, 01:07:20 PM
Ross isnt amazing but hes def not in the same boat as Soulja boy, Gucce Mane, Wacka Flocka etc like some of you guys make out.

He's not any better at rapping than Gucci Mane

Yeah he is. He has a better flow and mic presence for starters.

Mic presence? Dude can't even carry a song by himself.
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Post by: Paul on January 18, 2011, 05:05:20 PM
Amazon have Khalil down as a producer so I assume he will be producing track 13 with Kobe
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Post by: Bananas on January 18, 2011, 06:01:07 PM
This has to be better than that new Ghostface shit.
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Post by: Kush on January 18, 2011, 06:30:21 PM
Quote
Raekwon Confims Nas Collabo, Talks Wu-Tang Vs Shaolin Producers

The Chef talks to XXLMag.com about reuniting with Nas, and who else fans can expect to hear on his new LP…


Over the weekend, an alleged tracklist for Raekwon’s Wu-Tang vs Shaolin album leaked promising a reunion between The Chef and Nas. XXLMag.com chopped it up with the Wu-Tang vet to find out if God’s Son was indeed able to make it onto his new LP.
 According to Rae, the tracklist, although not listed in the right sequence, is in fact correct, and will feature a track with the Queensbridge MC. Nas wasn’t able to make it onto Lex Diamond’s last project, 2009’s critically acclaimed CD Only Built 4 Cuban Linx II due to a scheduling conflict, but he made sure to come out this go-round. “It definitely sounds like vintage Rae and Nas again,” the Staten Island rep told XXLMag.com.
 “I [saw] Nas across seas, we had a show together, and we talked about a lot of things,” Rae explained about how the two linked up. ”We went from A-Z how we felt about things what was goin on at the time, and by the grace of God we was able to get this thing happenin’ again. That was definitely one of the surprise things that I wanted to alert the fans with, just to let em know that my brother came up to air for me and I know through his busy schedule I guess in the back of his mind he was like ‘Yo I gotta come up for Rae.’”
 Along with Nas, Wu-Tang Vs Shaolin boasts cameos from Rick Ross, Lloyd Banks, Black Thought, Busta Rhymes and Jim Jones, as well as fellow Wu members Ghostface Killah and Method Man. On the production side, Rae enlisted the talents of DJ Khalil, Scram Jones, The Alchemist, Erick Sermon and longtime Wu beatsmith Allah Mathematics.
 Wu-Tang Vs Shaolin hits stores on March 8.
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Post by: doggfather on January 18, 2011, 11:44:26 PM
This has to be better than that new Ghostface shit.
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Post by: sav on January 20, 2011, 07:11:38 PM
"Butter knives"

http://hulkshare.com/4q9mgk6z6s26 (http://hulkshare.com/4q9mgk6z6s26)
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Post by: wcsoldier on January 22, 2011, 12:31:42 PM
http://www.complex.com/music/2011/01/album-preview-raekwons-shaolin-vs-wu-tang/

OB4CL 3 is coming   8)
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Post by: doggfather on January 22, 2011, 12:40:52 PM
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/interviews/id.1646/title.raekwon-unstoppable
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Post by: dubsmith_nz on January 22, 2011, 11:32:57 PM
http://www.complex.com/music/2011/01/album-preview-raekwons-shaolin-vs-wu-tang/

OB4CL 3 is coming   8)

Good read props on that, looking forward to the joints with mobb deep, black thought and banks