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Title: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: 2012 on May 25, 2011, 09:00:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OFm5lB4v38
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Detox Is A Myth!!! on May 25, 2011, 09:15:41 AM
That was some real talk right there.  Sad, though.  Sounds as if Dre has locked Snoop and DOC out of his recording studio.  Snoop is trying to plead with Dre to wise up, but Dre has people around him that don't care about the music, the art, the love.  The chemistry just ain't there no more because the wrong people are in the mix.  Sad that either Dre is in denial about this, or that he doesn't have the courage or clout to tell those wrong people to let the right people in.  This is a big reason why Dre has fallen off.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Will_B on May 25, 2011, 09:18:12 AM
Interesting. Bold talk from Snoop-de-whoop :)
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Stan on May 25, 2011, 09:19:01 AM
I kinda figured that ... how can you make a hot record with partying and gangsta shit if you don't do any of that or have any of those people influencing you.  Its going to bed at 9:30 getting up at 6 eat cereal then make "gin and juice"?  ???

I think you could hear it in his music when he said he stopped partying and all that awhile back ...

Edit: Think about his music in the last 7 or 8 years ... You can hear this grand piano come in and take over and everything is so structured and formal.  Pretty dark too ... I love "Imagine" but I had some friends listen to it and they couldn't believe it was the same doc dre who did Next Episode.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: doggfather on May 25, 2011, 09:23:25 AM
Interesting. Bold talk from Snoop-de-whoop :)
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: The Predator on May 25, 2011, 09:24:03 AM
Dre is not the only one lyrically embarrassing himself lately. Check Snoop's freestyles on the show, talk about losing the touch.

Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: The_Offence on May 25, 2011, 09:24:46 AM
snoop need to take his own advice and get in the right environment because his last couple album were complete trash. how you knocking dre when you dropping  garbage yourself.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Hoodlum204 on May 25, 2011, 09:32:43 AM
Why Do Dudes Only Talk This Typa Chit When They Oversea's?? Don't Get Me Wrong..It Needed To Be Said But Damn!!
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: bez on May 25, 2011, 09:38:15 AM
Dre is not the only one lyrically embarrassing himself lately. Check Snoop's freestyles on the show, talk about losing the touch.



They are freestyles off the top of his head though, the way it should be, not pre written like the freestlyes you see nowdays. i.e... its good so shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on May 25, 2011, 10:33:31 AM
snoop need to take his own advice and get in the right environment because his last couple album were complete trash. how you knocking dre when you dropping  garbage yourself.

Doggumentary came out pretty well, Snoop may have some juice again... 
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on May 25, 2011, 10:35:47 AM
snoop need to take his own advice and get in the right environment because his last couple album were complete trash. how you knocking dre when you dropping  garbage yourself.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: b.laden on May 25, 2011, 10:37:50 AM
i aint a DR DRE 'fan like the majority of this forum but his verses on kush was far better than snoop's ...
and i need a doctor was wack though lol
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Soopahigh on May 25, 2011, 10:44:50 AM
i aint a DR DRE 'fan like the majority of this forum but his verses on kush was far better than snoop's ...
and i need a doctor was wack though lol

Dre's verse was not that good and somebody probably wrote it for him  ;)
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Matty on May 25, 2011, 10:53:36 AM
i guess dre will be fine with eminem, slim the mobster, sly ::)

some of the new dudes might give him some cool shit though. i wonder if snoop thinks slim is the new gangsta rap messiah, he probably hasn't heard a huge amount the actual album.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Will_B on May 25, 2011, 11:08:03 AM
Not knocking Dre, he's an icon..but I was thinking today how Snoop wrote Deep Cover for Dre and himself.

How many of these artists could come out as a ready made star and blow up like that.


Dre can keep Slim, Slim and Sly ;D
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: LiLDuVall tHe CaLi-Vanian on May 25, 2011, 11:10:09 AM
Coo interview... Snoop killed them freestyles
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: The Predator on May 25, 2011, 11:20:25 AM
Dre is not the only one lyrically embarrassing himself lately. Check Snoop's freestyles on the show, talk about losing the touch.



They are freestyles off the top of his head though, the way it should be, not pre written like the freestlyes you see nowdays. i.e... its good so shut the fuck up.

He mumbles out some words on a elementary level, pathetic free-styling session. But it seems to be rocking on your speakers, crank up the volume homeboy.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: D-Nice on May 25, 2011, 11:20:57 AM
i guess dre will be fine with eminem, slim the mobster, sly ::)

some of the new dudes might give him some cool shit though. i wonder if snoop thinks slim is the new gangsta rap messiah, he probably hasn't heard a huge amount the actual album.

Isn't Slim in jail right now?
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Okka on May 25, 2011, 11:23:14 AM
I agree 100% with Snoop Dogg. I'm glad he said that shit.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Matty on May 25, 2011, 11:23:59 AM
i guess dre will be fine with eminem, slim the mobster, sly ::)

some of the new dudes might give him some cool shit though. i wonder if snoop thinks slim is the new gangsta rap messiah, he probably hasn't heard a huge amount the actual album.

Isn't Slim in jail right now?

yup, but it seems like he had a lot of input into the writing, direction, features at some stage. who knows what's going on with it now. the funny thing is that slim is supposed to drop a debut album too, wonder how that'll turn out (not the music, just the prospects for it being released).
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: papa-smurf on May 25, 2011, 11:28:14 AM
Detox is already a fail.its embarassing 4 dre 2 have 2 work with all these people 2 do 12 songs.he worked with everyody in the industry on detox.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: kuruptlon on May 25, 2011, 11:35:04 AM
Dre is not the only one lyrically embarrassing himself lately. Check Snoop's freestyles on the show, talk about losing the touch.



They are freestyles off the top of his head though, the way it should be, not pre written like the freestlyes you see nowdays. i.e... its good so shut the fuck up.

He mumbles out some words on a elementary level, pathetic free-styling session. But it seems to be rocking on your speakers, crank up the volume homeboy.


I don't really know what you expect from Snoop its not like he's Canibus, he's never been an exceptional freestyler he just spits some laid back G shit. I found the freestyles entertaining.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Dre-Day on May 25, 2011, 11:40:02 AM
you could say the same about snoop :poke:
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Sikotic™ on May 25, 2011, 11:45:52 AM
Yeah........because Snoop is making great music himself.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: The Aftermath Psychopath on May 25, 2011, 11:51:11 AM
Dre needs to put D.O.C back ASAP!
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Detox Is A Myth!!! on May 25, 2011, 12:03:20 PM
Geez people.  Just because Snoop should take his own advice and get people around him to help him make a good album again, doesn't mean that the same thing he said towards Dre isn't true.  One thing has nothing to do with the other.  Is his advice hypocritical?  Yes.  Is it incorrect advice?  No.  If you outright dismiss what he says in this clip, you're throwing the baby out with the bath water.  Snoop was speaking on some real spit, and you could tell it was heartfelt, too.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: The Predator on May 25, 2011, 12:26:09 PM
Dre is not the only one lyrically embarrassing himself lately. Check Snoop's freestyles on the show, talk about losing the touch.



They are freestyles off the top of his head though, the way it should be, not pre written like the freestlyes you see nowdays. i.e... its good so shut the fuck up.

He mumbles out some words on a elementary level, pathetic free-styling session. But it seems to be rocking on your speakers, crank up the volume homeboy.


I don't really know what you expect from Snoop its not like he's Canibus, he's never been an exceptional freestyler he just spits some laid back G shit. I found the freestyles entertaining.

Snoop's voice was groggy, flow all over the place and some of his words did not even rhyme.
Did not hear not even one hot line, if there was and i missed it please someone print it.



Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Fonkarround on May 25, 2011, 12:43:09 PM
I agree with Snoop.


Nice freestyles too, kinda basic, but good to hear ;)
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Samcro10 on May 25, 2011, 12:51:55 PM
interesting....
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Dre-Day on May 25, 2011, 01:22:40 PM
Geez people.  Just because Snoop should take his own advice and get people around him to help him make a good album again, doesn't mean that the same thing he said towards Dre isn't true.  One thing has nothing to do with the other.  Is his advice hypocritical?  Yes.  Is it incorrect advice?  No.  If you outright dismiss what he says in this clip, you're throwing the baby out with the bath water.  Snoop was speaking on some real spit, and you could tell it was heartfelt, too.
nah i was just pointing it out, off course he can say that.

thing is, this isn't 1992 anymore. snoop can be on the album, but carry detox like he did on the chronic? no.
maybe he has a point about the recording process though, i don't know. we've heard others say that dre felt he was recording out of obligation, but can you really blame other people around him for that? isn't dre's mind to blame?

anyway, i don't mind if sly, slim the mobster & kobe get kicked out.

i guess dre will be fine with eminem, slim the mobster, sly ::)

some of the new dudes might give him some cool shit though. i wonder if snoop thinks slim is the new gangsta rap messiah, he probably hasn't heard a huge amount the actual album.
well snoop was featured on slim's mixtape from a few years ago.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: sdmaxx1 on May 25, 2011, 01:35:43 PM
BOTTOM LINE IS DRE'S SONGS DONT MAKE NO SENSE WITHOUT SNOOP DO DUB AN THA DOGGPOUND thats the formula and I think Dre is so different now days he dont hang with the DP he dont hang with Snoop like they all did back then so I doubt he will ever have another album like the 1at Chronic an the 2nd Chronic. That new song he has with eminem SUCKS! Shit Daz's last few albums is whats up those are the beats thats the DPG formula! dAz an Fly on production is whats good for the whole DPG camp! Sorry Dre to much time has went by homie the beats your puttin out now sound like everything else out here give us that hard core gangsta shit!
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: thegooddoc on May 25, 2011, 01:54:13 PM
You have to admit it is pretty funny that snoop is criticizing someone for working with the wrong people.

Sounds like D.O.C. and Snoop don't sell any more and are mad at Dre for trying to make music that is relevant again.

 
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Will_B on May 25, 2011, 02:37:48 PM
You have to admit it is pretty funny that snoop is criticizing someone for working with the wrong people.

Sounds like D.O.C. and Snoop don't sell any more and are mad at Dre for trying to make music that is relevant again.

 


What is relevant in 2011? You mean that stuff they play on the radio?

Damn even 5 years ago you could (at any one time) hear a few current bangers in rotation on the daily...
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: shoo on May 25, 2011, 02:44:27 PM
i don't know what's wrong with dre. i have no idea.maybe it's wrong people in his environment maybe it's lack of good weed. i only know his music sucks hard recently and is really hard to listen to...
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Stan on May 25, 2011, 02:47:44 PM
Hmm ... this is shitty news but probably true.  Maybe he should scrap Detox and make his own brand of work-out videos.  Dre style. 
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Lunatic on May 25, 2011, 02:50:54 PM
I agree 100% with Snoop Dogg. I'm glad he said that shit.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Hatesrats™ on May 25, 2011, 03:09:40 PM
Dr. Dre Jimmy Iovine ain't going after the same market that Dre used to supply with DETOX.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Bungalow on May 25, 2011, 03:32:01 PM
The wrong people = Jimmy Iovine
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: UCC on May 25, 2011, 05:40:56 PM
I don't think Dre needs Snoop and DOC or anyone in particular to make good music...

He's made great music with NWA, with Eminem, then stuff with different co-producers like on Keep Their Heads Ringing, Been There Done That, California Love, Natural Born Killaz, Bad Intentions...

There's a ton of great songs he's done with no Snoop or DOC involvement, so I think it's something else

I think he needs a new main idea and sound and he hasn't found one yet


Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: PLANT on May 25, 2011, 05:44:20 PM
I agree 100% with Snoop Dogg. I'm glad he said that shit.
straight up
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: k-dogg on May 25, 2011, 05:47:57 PM
Fellas Seriously....Don't get caught up in the Snoop Dogg interview...How many boxing fans out there..Both Roy Jones Jr. and Bernard Hopkins fought this weekend in separate fights..Not going to get into the results but hopefully u already know..Both in there forty's and past there prime but Jones is Washed the Fuck up while Hopkins still got a lil somethin for yo ass...Snoop and DOC had their time but are closer to Jones than Hopkins..Dre know this..The ain't the 90's fellas..For better or for worse, Dre got to find that new shit. So far, mixed results but not a total failure.. Snoop and DOC could have a space or place in Detox but they ain't leading players anymore...How bout flipping it and u tell me where Snoop and DOC careers have been without Dre??  Snoop some success but he had never ever reached the success of his first album..DOC?? Ok...U  tell me...I agree we have waited far to long for Detox and it probably will never meet the hype but the success of the project will depend on the hotness of the New Shit....Not that old Roy jones/SNoop Dogg/DOC shit..It was nice but if u feel the mood for that as often I do, just bump Chronic and Doggystyle.  
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: PLANT on May 25, 2011, 05:51:07 PM
and btw, there are a HANDFUL of songs from Doggumentary that are better than any of the new Dre material.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: WCoastTillIDie on May 25, 2011, 05:54:51 PM
Yeah........because Snoop is making great music himself.

don't know what you're talking about, Doggumentary is a quality album by Snoop.  You 1990's westcoast hip hop fans need to wise up and broaden your minds, it's 2011.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on May 25, 2011, 07:06:01 PM
When DOC left Dre that was the sign that Detox was done


people talking shit about Snoop, fuck outta here, NO ONE checking for Dre gives a fucks about non-westcoast shit with no snoop.  Dre without Snoop and without the all these "washed up" west rappers is I need a Doctor status......so WACK
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Unforgivable by Sean John on May 25, 2011, 07:06:33 PM
Dre relies a lot on the people in the studio with him. The team of Storch, Elizondo, eminem, hitman, and Mel-Man worked beautifully for him. And we have a great record (2001) to prove it. I don't know exactly what his team was at Death Row, but I think it was The Glove, RBX, barney, butch, snoop, tony green... that crew didn't stay together too long, but they must have had incredible synergy in the studio. those beats just came together so beautifully. and now whatever team he's with, it's just is not working. From writers to musicians to engineers to executives its just not working at all. there are plenty of people that dre has worked very well with in his career, and he knows shit worked with them, so i'm assuming money and ego's are the reason why he is now with the wrong people. and now he's gonna have the wrong record out as a result. no disrespect to mark batson though, that dude is amazing and i doubt he's the problem.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on May 25, 2011, 07:12:39 PM
Snoop is trying to be a good friend and tell Dre the truth.  That's your real friend, because maybe some other people in Dre's inner-circle are all "yes-men" just telling Dre what he wants to hear.  And Snoop has done enough in his career at this point and done enough for Dre that he has that right to speak about Dre, when few others can speak on Dre in public. 

I hope Dre doesn't hold it against Snoop, because apparently DOC told Dre the same thing and now they beefing again.   
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on May 25, 2011, 07:14:45 PM
Yeah........because Snoop is making great music himself.

Have you heard Doggumentary?  Snoop still knows what he's doing in a studio
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: jaytee on May 25, 2011, 07:15:08 PM
Snoop ain't lying.  The whole thing comes down to everybody having their own vision/idea of what the album is supposed to be.  D.O.C. and Dre obviously bumped heads and had a difference of opinion in the direction of the sound/content.  The public at large wants Dre to do Dre music.  That's from his hardcore fans down to his casual listeners.  People don't want to see him making Eminem, Lil Wayne or Lady Gaga type music or whatever else is trendy atm.  It's fine to want to take his music to another level and expand, but the listener should still feel that this is a Dre record at the end of the day.  It's been pretty much anything but that so far.

The wrong people = Jimmy Iovine

and Eminem.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on May 25, 2011, 07:21:21 PM
My opinion, Dre not going to like what Snoop said.  He said the truth which was saying that everything he's putting out is trash and surrounding himself with wack ass muthafuckas

everyone around Dre will then tell him that Snoop is wack, because they all look stupid right now
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Matty on May 25, 2011, 07:55:57 PM
hold up wait a minute...

would anyone be interested in a sly solo album? :whistle:
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: dameons on May 25, 2011, 07:56:54 PM
Dre is going to shelve this album in the near future . The pressure is building and he just doesn't need to do this because he is filthy rich .He doesn't need this stress . He needs to hook up with people who can deliver quality tracks with the classic style ( EA Ski ) . He is trying way too hard . This album was just not meant to be .
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Matty on May 25, 2011, 07:59:48 PM
nothing but bad bitches around my team.

nothing but black cards inside my jeans.

dre sounded pretty good on that kardinal track, better than some of these new ones.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: thegooddoc on May 25, 2011, 08:01:06 PM
My opinion, Dre not going to like what Snoop said.  He said the truth which was saying that everything he's putting out is trash and surrounding himself with wack ass muthafuckas

everyone around Dre will then tell him that Snoop is wack, because they all look stupid right now

Doggumentary wasn't any good and it didn't sell.  If anything Snoop should follow Dre's example and quit putting out half ass effort of albums, just to have an album out.



Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: thegooddoc on May 25, 2011, 08:02:25 PM
hold up wait a minute...

would anyone be interested in a sly solo album? :whistle:

Haha....NO! ;D
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Matty on May 25, 2011, 08:09:00 PM
hold up wait a minute...

would anyone be interested in a sly solo album? :whistle:

Haha....NO! ;D

big chillin in this muhfukka :oi:

chillin is the most comically bad of all the leaks. say what you want about needing to do something different or not being able to live up to past work, but for dre to be making tracks of that kinda quality now. weak.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: D-TalkX on May 25, 2011, 08:14:31 PM
Damn sounds like Snoop is irritated as well...Dope interview.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: BG Rapsodie on May 25, 2011, 08:28:49 PM
chillin is the most comically bad of all the leaks. say what you want about needing to do something different or not being able to live up to past work, but for dre to be making tracks of that kinda quality now. weak.

The thing is he hasn't done anything "different." Ripping off someone else's style isn't different. He came out with an Alex da Kid song and a Swizz Beatz song. And the sad part is its not even as good as their best songs.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: GangstaBoogy on May 25, 2011, 08:51:05 PM
I agree that snoop should take his own advice.

But he's right. For some reason dre seems to want to distance himself from the people that bring out the best in him (doc, snoop) and the artist we want to hear him with (nate-rip, kurupt, cube). All he seems to care about is eminem and jimmy iovine. T.I. Was bring out some fire from dre but he's not available right now lol

My prescription was a dope party record but he won't finish it. Kush was dope but sounded forced and had no replay value. Inad? No thanks.

Doc said it months ago when they split that dre was going to have a hard time digging himself out of this whole...looks like he was right
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Action! on May 25, 2011, 08:53:57 PM
From some interviews I recall it seems like D.O.C is to lyrics/story telling as to what Dr. Dre is to sound.   He might not write all the time but he knows how to shape a song into a better hit like Dre knows how to take a beat and mix it to another level.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Sir Petey on May 25, 2011, 09:24:16 PM
Snoop is trying to be a good friend and tell Dre the truth.  That's your real friend, because maybe some other people in Dre's inner-circle are all "yes-men" just telling Dre what he wants to hear.  And Snoop has done enough in his career at this point and done enough for Dre that he has that right to speak about Dre, when few others can speak on Dre in public. 

I hope Dre doesn't hold it against Snoop, because apparently DOC told Dre the same thing and now they beefing again.   

stop trying to make it sound like some soap opera shit...it aint that serious mr 1996.

snoop helped build dres legacy and no one wants to see there shit crumble that simple.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: midwestryder on May 25, 2011, 09:31:37 PM
My opinion, Dre not going to like what Snoop said.  He said the truth which was saying that everything he's putting out is trash and surrounding himself with wack ass muthafuckas

everyone around Dre will then tell him that Snoop is wack, because they all look stupid right now

Doggumentary wasn't any good and it didn't sell.  If anything Snoop should follow Dre's example and quit putting out half ass effort of albums, just to have an album out.




what the fuck are you talking about youngster. first fuck sales.  two doggumentary was one of snoop's dopest albums in last 10 years. doggumentary was one of best west coast albums this year with wc's  & dj quiks . you have no raste & no idea what you are talking about . doggumentary was what a real west coast album is suppose to sound like dipshit..
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Unforgivable by Sean John on May 25, 2011, 10:09:18 PM
nothing but bad bitches around my team.

nothing but black cards inside my jeans.

dre sounded pretty good on that kardinal track, better than some of these new ones.

dre can still rap his ASS off. people hate on his rapping for no reason. his technique is still excellent and i like his "detox" voice but not everyone does... he sounded great on that song from relapse refill where him and em were going fast....
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: h2k4 on May 25, 2011, 10:21:51 PM
My opinion, Dre not going to like what Snoop said.  He said the truth which was saying that everything he's putting out is trash and surrounding himself with wack ass muthafuckas

everyone around Dre will then tell him that Snoop is wack, because they all look stupid right now

Doggumentary wasn't any good and it didn't sell.  If anything Snoop should follow Dre's example and quit putting out half ass effort of albums, just to have an album out.




what the fuck are you talking about youngster. first fuck sales.  two doggumentary was one of snoop's dopest albums in last 10 years. doggumentary was one of best west coast albums this year with wc's  & dj quiks . you have no raste & no idea what you are talking about . doggumentary was what a real west coast album is suppose to sound like dipshit..

Lmao  ???
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: thegooddoc on May 25, 2011, 10:37:25 PM
My opinion, Dre not going to like what Snoop said.  He said the truth which was saying that everything he's putting out is trash and surrounding himself with wack ass muthafuckas

everyone around Dre will then tell him that Snoop is wack, because they all look stupid right now

Doggumentary wasn't any good and it didn't sell.  If anything Snoop should follow Dre's example and quit putting out half ass effort of albums, just to have an album out.




what the fuck are you talking about youngster. first fuck sales.  two doggumentary was one of snoop's dopest albums in last 10 years. doggumentary was one of best west coast albums this year with wc's  & dj quiks . you have no raste & no idea what you are talking about . doggumentary was what a real west coast album is suppose to sound like dipshit..

Keep telling yourself whatever makes you feel better. Unfortunately you have to deal with the truth and the truth is that Snoop's album wasn't very good and its not just me. It is all of the other snoop fans that wouldn't waste their money on that garbage.  You are delusional if you think sales don't matter. Don't kid yourself, Snoop has hurt feelings because he doesn't sell anymore and he went from multi-platinum to not even going plastic.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 25, 2011, 11:03:23 PM
swear2god i JUST said that tha other day in a Dre/Detox thread (just look it up in my profile but whatever)....  I'll say it again, Dre needs to get a NEW Production Staff.  The Aftermath Staff has had it's run and it can't go on any further, "Relapse" is the best of the last.  C'mon pimpin' like i said let's keep this shit 1000:

Dre & Storch aren't gonna create a massive single or make some gigantic record (album cut) that's gonna completely shit on anything they've ever done and honestly it wouldn't even have 2 do that, their magic has faded a minute ago.  
Dre & Batson has never been really all that hot on more than half of the occasions.  
Dre & Elizondo for most of the 2000's have been lack luster, they've created some BANGIN ASS MUSIC no doubt but after "The Documentary" came out and he was doin' 50's chit like that I was always like "how long is this shit gonna last".  
Dre & Dawuan Parker has never been good "30 Something" was hot when it came out but everytime I hear it it reminds me of "Body And Soul" by OFTB.


Now Dre & Che Vicious is pretty nice.
Dre & Just Blaze have probably made some crazy ass records and they actually sound like they'd have some bomb ass chemistry (which is probably why Jus' has always been around).
Dre & Khalil, look i'll say this... I ALREADY KNOW Khalil is a tite producer and has been 1 of the better producers the WestCoast has bred since it made it's mark in 93'.  But the 2010/2011 DJ Khalil has been boring as fuck.  But I KNOW dude probably has thousands of records that's the hotness just laying around in the studio so I have a feeling that if Dre put Khalil on "Detox" that song "Kush" would be the laughing stock of the bunch... and speaking of "Kush" he should leave that shit off of there foreal foreal but I can't tell no grown ass man who's a legend in MUSIC what to do lol.


as for features:

Eminem - you know he's gonna be on there and it ain't gonna be no bullshit.  It'll most likely be everything we want in an Eminem verse(s).  As long as he's not on the hook doing that singing/chanting/whining/"die hard"/"my mom" shit everything's gonna be fine but in real life who actually needs an Eminem hook, who actually wants Eminem on their hook.  Starving artists would do it for the notoriety, any good/self respecting/respected artist wouldn't do that shit in the 2011 (Slaughterhouse doesn't count; seriously).
Slim Tha Mobster - it could be interesting but is it gonna be that elephant shit tho, does he really have it?
Sly -  :P
Slaughterhouse - nah i'm good.  i love the group but they couldn't rock a "Detox" track like that
Bishop Lamont - i think dude lost his steam and honestly as much as I respect Bishop I just couldn't hear him on "detox", maybe for like "The Message Pt. II" at the end of the album but that's it.
Busta Rhymes - yeah, that could work
The Game - nah.  unless satan takes over his soul or somethin
50 - he should've been 1 of the original writer's for "Detox".  I never understood why that was never established.  I mean it's not like Dre has to jack his flow (and he shouldn't) just to turn 50's raps into magic
Snoop Dogg - nothing needs to be said here
The DOC - again, nothing needs to be said here
T.I. - idk, i dont think so.  he could surprise us tho, it's not like those leaks were lackluster but truth be told "this is detox" was  :-[
Ludacris - nah
Young Knoxxx - honestly i'd have to hear more



what i'd like to see:  sorry but it's not like i dont know the truth about his beats lol
(production wise)

Dre + Kanye + RZA ("My Dark Fantasy Pt. II" type shit, without the long ass outro for no reason and without the album polish)
Dre + Bud'da (i know this sounds corny but take 1 of those old beats from the "DeathRow" and "Westside Connection" era and polish that bitch up in a real way)
Dre + Southside or Prince (just for tha Trapoholics out there.  could be a mixtape track if it's underwhelming, they'll know)
Dre + Just Blaze (gangsta shit tho)
Dre + Monsta Beatz (that combo would be sick.  Matter of fact take a little bit from ALL of Curren$y's producers and live band.  No Ski Beatz tho, it just wouldn't sound rite)
Dre + JUSTICE LEAGUE
Dre + Erick Sermon (it'd be interesting to hear atleast anyway, "Intro" maybe)
Dre + Alchemist
additional production assistance/instruments:  Shock G (pinch me), DJ Quik (on a track), Daz (synthesizer), Havoc


features:

Snoop
Tha Dogg Pound (Daz and Kurupt BOTH.  It won't be right without em both and they BOTH know that no matter wat Daz or Dre say)
Jay Rock
Kendrick Lamar (some funny gangsta shit tho)
Richie Rich
Eminem (just goin tha fuck off)
Devin
Tech N9ne
Scarface
Nipsey Hussle

Eazy E (i'm probably wishing too hard tho) - "new" verse tho
Makaveli (it was always a great unjustice to Hip Hop and music in general that we never got a Dre/Snoop/Pac trio collaboration)

Patti Labelle
Aretha Franklin
Chaka Khan
Amy Winehouse
Mary Mary
Nate Dogg (should i pinched for this)
Eryka Badu

DJ Easy Dicc



at the end of the day i think if this album falls into the whole 3 note piano boom bap thing it'll be a blower for everybody  :P... i've always had my faith tho
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Dre-Day on May 26, 2011, 01:11:34 AM
Dre relies a lot on the people in the studio with him. The team of Storch, Elizondo, eminem, hitman, and Mel-Man worked beautifully for him. And we have a great record (2001) to prove it. I don't know exactly what his team was at Death Row, but I think it was The Glove, RBX, barney, butch, snoop, tony green... that crew didn't stay together too long, but they must have had incredible synergy in the studio. those beats just came together so beautifully. and now whatever team he's with, it's just is not working. From writers to musicians to engineers to executives its just not working at all. there are plenty of people that dre has worked very well with in his career, and he knows shit worked with them, so i'm assuming money and ego's are the reason why he is now with the wrong people. and now he's gonna have the wrong record out as a result. no disrespect to mark batson though, that dude is amazing and i doubt he's the problem.
the current musicians are great, that's not the problem.

it's dre
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: GangstaBoogy on May 26, 2011, 01:32:44 AM
Lmao @ Hollywood Bilderberg

So you don't want slaughterhouse or ti involved but you want wackass 50 to be a writer? Geez

All I want is doc, snoop, cube, nas, raekwon, kurupt, busta, eminem, nikki grier, and nate dogg.

Those features plus some acutal dre production and we have a winner
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: GangstaBoogy on May 26, 2011, 01:33:40 AM
Oops gotta add game, ti, knoc, and crook to that list
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: dubsmith_nz on May 26, 2011, 02:06:09 AM
It seems like Dre has basically been involved with everyone who is anyone in the making of this album. The only person who can get this album out is Dre, not Snoop, not Em, not Jimmy, Dre. Doesn't matter who's around him, so the point Snoops making is kind of pointless because he's been in studio sessions with him. Everyone has said Dre has amazing shit, so it's obviously not the quality of the music that's the problem, it's Dre's confidence.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Will_B on May 26, 2011, 03:10:00 AM
They're in no rush to put the album out. Thats obvious. Dres got Commercials, products and sponsors piggy backing every leak and snippet that ends up 'not being for Detox'. It's all tv or web marketing. Detox will drop as soon as that stratagy is played out and it'll be all over the media whatever fans think of it or Dre.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: HighEyeCue on May 26, 2011, 05:22:33 AM
first DOC comes out and says this and now Snoop, they are both right and seem bitter about it at the same time
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: bouli77 on May 26, 2011, 06:07:18 AM
i guess dre really needs a doctor (a shrink more specifically) to be able to finish and release his album lol.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: cmk1 on May 26, 2011, 06:27:46 AM
hold up wait a minute...

would anyone be interested in a sly solo album? :whistle:
I've been a fans since she's called Holly Brook... her old albums are nice  8)
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Gamestarr on May 26, 2011, 06:44:19 AM
Lmao @ Hollywood Bilderberg

So you don't want slaughterhouse or ti involved but you want wackass 50 to be a writer? Geez

All I want is doc, snoop, cube, nas, raekwon, kurupt, busta, eminem, nikki grier, and nate dogg.

Those features plus some acutal dre production and we have a winner


yeah wtf... lol


I think its cool  Snoop dares to say somethin. Nobody does. everybody just dickrydin.


Holy Macaroni  ;D




Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Az on May 26, 2011, 07:04:45 AM
Don't fight the feelin...

The only way I can see Detox living up to any hype is having Dre, D.O.C, Snoop, Warren G, Rage, RBX, Kurupt, Jewell, Soopafly and maybe even Daz, all locked away in a studio vibing for a few months. Dre's music is too formulaic now, it's sounding forced and  most times it's just boring. All you hear is artists, who HOPE to be featured on it talking how great Detox will be etc etc but only D.O.C & Snoop are critical and REAL, that alone tells you who he should be working with to make this album what it should be.

These guys vibe so well together, the Up in smoke tour was the pinnacle. Dre can do whatever the fuck he wants at this point which is evident how long Interscope have waited for Detox, and all those guys I mentioned would easily drop anything to assist Dre.

I know it aint the 90's anymore, and I don't need the G-funk sythnizser or bitches & blunts etc but I know the vibe them guys have would bring good FUNKY music with some great skits/interludes, which is another thing everyone expects from a Dre album. Sadly I think it'll never happen now...
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Quadruple OG on May 26, 2011, 08:10:38 AM

The only way I can see Detox living up to any hype is having Dre, D.O.C, Snoop, Warren G, Rage, RBX, Kurupt, Jewell, Soopafly and maybe even Daz, all locked away in a studio vibing for a few months.


Tha Dogg Pound (Daz and Kurupt BOTH.  It won't be right without em both and they BOTH know that no matter wat Daz or Dre say)


Can wish for it all you want, but there's no chance in hell Dre and Daz ever work together.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Okka on May 26, 2011, 08:17:05 AM
Can wish for it all you want, but there's no chance in hell Dre and Daz ever work together.

Yeah, but i think they still cool though. I got a picture of them and Snoop, Nate Dogg and B-Real that was probably taken back in 2000 or somethin'.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 26, 2011, 08:17:29 AM
Lmao @ Hollywood Bilderberg

So you don't want slaughterhouse or ti involved but you want wackass 50 to be a writer? Geez

All I want is doc, snoop, cube, nas, raekwon, kurupt, busta, eminem, nikki grier, and nate dogg.

Those features plus some acutal dre production and we have a winner

yeah wtf... lol



how come i cant say somethin without ppl thinkin im dissin somebody?  Slaughterhouse on a Dr. Dre album, that means Joell Ortiz and Joe Buddens would have to be on there.  Crooked I and Royce my niggaz (as is Joell) but this is "Detox" we're talking about, not the Slaughterhouse album.  


and how do u have the nerve to say 50 isn't capable enough as a song writer to deliver what Dre "needs"?  this is Curtis Jackson we're talking about, not the Young Gunz.  TI can write and rap on the album I'm not saying that he shouldn't, fuck r u talking about.


you guys put too much blind faith into the names.  Knoc Turn Al is my nigga but in 2011 would they still have that same chemistry like they did in 1999?  i mean it's possible that they could have better chemistry today but how serious do u think the doctor is considering that?  i tried to be a little realistic with it and not just stick to tha same exact formula Dre has had for his previous albums becuz truth be told if he went at it like that it'd probably be a little more boring than u think it would and that's just coming from the heart.




I know it's a little long but y'all should really re-consider reading that list again, just being honest.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 26, 2011, 08:22:00 AM
Can wish for it all you want, but there's no chance in hell Dre and Daz ever work together.

Yeah, but i think they still cool though. I got a picture of them and Snoop, Nate Dogg and B-Real that was probably taken back in 2000 or somethin'.


but see that's what i'm sayin.  BOTH of them know that they need each other for this album, maybe not from top to bottom like "The Chronic" but I can't see Dre's album being OFFICIAL without Daz on it and Daz know he needs to be on "Detox" becuz "Detox" at this point is bigger than Dr. Dre, it's like literally the soul  of his generation.  Becuz after "Detox", it's pretty much completely all about everybody else who wasn't involved in Ruthless Records and Death Row Records.


that whole old skool westcoast era will never ever die but "Detox" is like the burden for California and the Westcoast to move on. #feelme.  "Detox" is bigger than Dre.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: PhunkyDoob on May 26, 2011, 08:22:26 AM
I disagree with most of you in here on this one.

I mean of course i just like y'all love the old click and would love for them to work closer with Dre for Detox. The thing is do you honestly think they would make that big of a difference now?

This ain't 1992 or 1999, it's 2011. The game has completely done a 180 and maybe Dre just doesn't have it anymore. I mean everybody says the same about Snoop, Dogg Pound and etc too so what makes you think they would elevate it so much?

I'm thinking it's more nostalgia than anything. If Dre decided to work in the lab with the old click and the album still bombed, would y'all blame them or would y'all just blame Dre? Cuz i that if he started working with them again and the album is the shit, everybody will give them the credit, but then if the album sucks everybody will say that it's Dre's fault.

The truth is that Dre just might not have it anymore and that is not something new or out of the ordinary. It happens to the best of them. He still has a huge legacy in Hip-Hop and will forever be remember as one of the greatest producers and i think we and he should leave it at that and maybe just scratch the whole Detox idea.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 26, 2011, 08:25:13 AM
I disagree with most of you in here on this one.

I mean of course i just like y'all love the old click and would love for them to work closer with Dre for Detox. The thing is do you honestly think they would make that big of a difference now?

This ain't 1992 or 1999, it's 2011. The game has completely done a 180 and maybe Dre just doesn't have it anymore. I mean everybody says the same about Snoop, Dogg Pound and etc too so what makes you think they would elevate it so much?

I'm thinking it's more nostalgia than anything. If Dre decided to work in the lab with the old click and the album still bombed, would y'all blame them or would y'all just blame Dre? Cuz i that if he started working with them again and the album is the shit, everybody will give them the credit, but then if the album sucks everybody will say that it's Dre's fault.

The truth is that Dre just might not have it anymore and that is not something new or out of the ordinary. It happens to the best of them. He still has a huge legacy in Hip-Hop and will forever be remember as one of the greatest producers and i think he and we should leave it at that and maybe just scratch the whole Detox idea.


that's kinda like wat i waz saying when i said "Detox is bigger than Dr. Dre at this point".  and while what YOU said may be true (or not) we should still get an album tho.  not getting 1 would be a little disrespectful at this point in the game.


Edit:  and what would be so wrong with that Whistle being in there?  music has evolved so it's not like it would have to take up the whole beat and be constant thruout the entire album like "The Chronic" (even tho a track or two with nothing but the elements of pure G Funk might be interesting Sine-Piano-ElectricityMoogBass, just make it gangsta that's all... BrickSquad got gangsta shit all day).  "The Doggumentary" has it so why shouldn't "Detox"?  I agree if dude just throws on a loop and doesn't even really do anything to it and then throws on the sines and the moogs i'd probably be a little underwhelmed but if that Moog and that sine is missing then it just won't be complete... think about that
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: shmosh on May 26, 2011, 08:35:44 AM
Dre, D.O.C, Snoop, Warren G, Rage, RBX, Kurupt, Jewell, Soopafly and maybe even Daz

this, plus Nate, Game, Eminem, MC Ren & Cube

I want to see his old Chronic team, plus some of his Aftermath artists like Em & Game. It's his last album, he needs the old DR gang on there.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: PhunkyDoob on May 26, 2011, 08:42:14 AM
I disagree with most of you in here on this one.

I mean of course i just like y'all love the old click and would love for them to work closer with Dre for Detox. The thing is do you honestly think they would make that big of a difference now?

This ain't 1992 or 1999, it's 2011. The game has completely done a 180 and maybe Dre just doesn't have it anymore. I mean everybody says the same about Snoop, Dogg Pound and etc too so what makes you think they would elevate it so much?

I'm thinking it's more nostalgia than anything. If Dre decided to work in the lab with the old click and the album still bombed, would y'all blame them or would y'all just blame Dre? Cuz i that if he started working with them again and the album is the shit, everybody will give them the credit, but then if the album sucks everybody will say that it's Dre's fault.

The truth is that Dre just might not have it anymore and that is not something new or out of the ordinary. It happens to the best of them. He still has a huge legacy in Hip-Hop and will forever be remember as one of the greatest producers and i think he and we should leave it at that and maybe just scratch the whole Detox idea.


that's kinda like wat i waz saying when i said "Detox is bigger than Dr. Dre at this point".  and while what YOU said may be true (or not) we should still get an album tho.  not getting 1 would be a little disrespectful at this point in the game.

Yeah maybe, or just come up with a new concept for the album. It's good marketing. Right now Detox is nothing more than a hip-hop punchline. It's hard to take the album seriously at this point with all the delays and lackluster songs.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Gamestarr on May 26, 2011, 09:14:08 AM
Lmao @ Hollywood Bilderberg

So you don't want slaughterhouse or ti involved but you want wackass 50 to be a writer? Geez

All I want is doc, snoop, cube, nas, raekwon, kurupt, busta, eminem, nikki grier, and nate dogg.

Those features plus some acutal dre production and we have a winner

yeah wtf... lol



how come i cant say somethin without ppl thinkin im dissin somebody?  Slaughterhouse on a Dr. Dre album, that means Joell Ortiz and Joe Buddens would have to be on there.  Crooked I and Royce my niggaz (as is Joell) but this is "Detox" we're talking about, not the Slaughterhouse album.  


and how do u have the nerve to say 50 isn't capable enough as a song writer to deliver what Dre "needs"?  this is Curtis Jackson we're talking about, not the Young Gunz.  TI can write and rap on the album I'm not saying that he shouldn't, fuck r u talking about.


you guys put too much blind faith into the names.  Knoc Turn Al is my nigga but in 2011 would they still have that same chemistry like they did in 1999?  i mean it's possible that they could have better chemistry today but how serious do u think the doctor is considering that?  i tried to be a little realistic with it and not just stick to tha same exact formula Dre has had for his previous albums becuz truth be told if he went at it like that it'd probably be a little more boring than u think it would and that's just coming from the heart.




I know it's a little long but y'all should really re-consider reading that list again, just being honest.


Have you ever heard a 50 Cent song? I mean GRODT was dope but he has always used the same 20 rhymes so how the fuck would he be able to write somethin mindblowing/extreme dope and fitting for Detox that we have not already heard? .

Dre's flow/delivery on Kush was kinda fresh and it wouldnt have been if 50 wrote it. It would be: Good/hood, chedda/better, gun/run, nympho/nympho etc. etc.

boring ass shit  ;D
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: $oKhalifas on May 26, 2011, 09:18:02 AM
swear2god i JUST said that tha other day in a Dre/Detox thread (just look it up in my profile but whatever)....  I'll say it again, Dre needs to get a NEW Production Staff.  The Aftermath Staff has had it's run and it can't go on any further, "Relapse" is the best of the last.  C'mon pimpin' like i said let's keep this shit 1000:

Dre & Storch aren't gonna create a massive single or make some gigantic record (album cut) that's gonna completely shit on anything they've ever done and honestly it wouldn't even have 2 do that, their magic has faded a minute ago.  
Dre & Batson has never been really all that hot on more than half of the occasions.  
Dre & Elizondo for most of the 2000's have been lack luster, they've created some BANGIN ASS MUSIC no doubt but after "The Documentary" came out and he was doin' 50's chit like that I was always like "how long is this shit gonna last".  
Dre & Dawuan Parker has never been good "30 Something" was hot when it came out but everytime I hear it it reminds me of "Body And Soul" by OFTB.


Now Dre & Che Vicious is pretty nice.
Dre & Just Blaze have probably made some crazy ass records and they actually sound like they'd have some bomb ass chemistry (which is probably why Jus' has always been around).
Dre & Khalil, look i'll say this... I ALREADY KNOW Khalil is a tite producer and has been 1 of the better producers the WestCoast has bred since it made it's mark in 93'.  But the 2010/2011 DJ Khalil has been boring as fuck.  But I KNOW dude probably has thousands of records that's the hotness just laying around in the studio so I have a feeling that if Dre put Khalil on "Detox" that song "Kush" would be the laughing stock of the bunch... and speaking of "Kush" he should leave that shit off of there foreal foreal but I can't tell no grown ass man who's a legend in MUSIC what to do lol.


as for features:

Eminem - you know he's gonna be on there and it ain't gonna be no bullshit.  It'll most likely be everything we want in an Eminem verse(s).  As long as he's not on the hook doing that singing/chanting/whining/"die hard"/"my mom" shit everything's gonna be fine but in real life who actually needs an Eminem hook, who actually wants Eminem on their hook.  Starving artists would do it for the notoriety, any good/self respecting/respected artist wouldn't do that shit in the 2011 (Slaughterhouse doesn't count; seriously).
Slim Tha Mobster - it could be interesting but is it gonna be that elephant shit tho, does he really have it?
Sly -  :P
Slaughterhouse - nah i'm good.  i love the group but they couldn't rock a "Detox" track like that
Bishop Lamont - i think dude lost his steam and honestly as much as I respect Bishop I just couldn't hear him on "detox", maybe for like "The Message Pt. II" at the end of the album but that's it.
Busta Rhymes - yeah, that could work
The Game - nah.  unless satan takes over his soul or somethin
50 - he should've been 1 of the original writer's for "Detox".  I never understood why that was never established.  I mean it's not like Dre has to jack his flow (and he shouldn't) just to turn 50's raps into magic
Snoop Dogg - nothing needs to be said here
The DOC - again, nothing needs to be said here
T.I. - idk, i dont think so.  he could surprise us tho, it's not like those leaks were lackluster but truth be told "this is detox" was  :-[
Ludacris - nah
Young Knoxxx - honestly i'd have to hear more



what i'd like to see:  sorry but it's not like i dont know the truth about his beats lol
(production wise)

Dre + Kanye + RZA ("My Dark Fantasy Pt. II" type shit, without the long ass outro for no reason and without the album polish)
Dre + Bud'da (i know this sounds corny but take 1 of those old beats from the "DeathRow" and "Westside Connection" era and polish that bitch up in a real way)
Dre + Southside or Prince (just for tha Trapoholics out there.  could be a mixtape track if it's underwhelming, they'll know)
Dre + Just Blaze (gangsta shit tho)
Dre + Monsta Beatz (that combo would be sick.  Matter of fact take a little bit from ALL of Curren$y's producers and live band.  No Ski Beatz tho, it just wouldn't sound rite)
Dre + JUSTICE LEAGUE
Dre + Erick Sermon (it'd be interesting to hear atleast anyway, "Intro" maybe)
Dre + Alchemist
additional production assistance/instruments:  Shock G (pinch me), DJ Quik (on a track), Daz (synthesizer), Havoc


features:

Snoop
Tha Dogg Pound (Daz and Kurupt BOTH.  It won't be right without em both and they BOTH know that no matter wat Daz or Dre say)
Jay Rock
Kendrick Lamar (some funny gangsta shit tho)
Richie Rich
Eminem (just goin tha fuck off)
Devin
Tech N9ne
Scarface
Nipsey Hussle

Eazy E (i'm probably wishing too hard tho) - "new" verse tho
Makaveli (it was always a great unjustice to Hip Hop and music in general that we never got a Dre/Snoop/Pac trio collaboration)

Patti Labelle
Aretha Franklin
Chaka Khan
Amy Winehouse
Mary Mary
Nate Dogg (should i pinched for this)
Eryka Badu

DJ Easy Dicc



at the end of the day i think if this album falls into the whole 3 note piano boom bap thing it'll be a blower for everybody  :P... i've always had my faith tho

you made some well researched and insightful points, you also made a few 'what the fuck is this nicca talmbout' points. i like your features list minus maybe richie rich and all the diva singers (again, wtf is all that shit?), but i see how you would like to hear some soulful classic vocals integrated, nothing wrong with that i guess if done sparingly.




 
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: 3rd Coast on May 26, 2011, 10:01:51 AM
im glad we got quick....

n he's not afraid to not fuck with his circle when he dont want too...

and glad I aint gotta hear a quik needs to produce a whole album for suga free or 2nd II none...

( wouldnt mind hearin a complete album with him n Hi-c)..lol


glad nobody in his circle is as emotional as dre's people is..alot of dre's people some grown ass babies..

u aint never heard d, kk, suga free, hi-c, hamm, tweed,jfn cry

like dogg, game, 50,and the rest

makes me stop listenin 2 em...dont want the faggotry to get in my brain...

let that man work...n be happy he comin back out....fuck who is in his circle now...be glad u might be on it...

fuck his environment who dogg think he is his guidance counselor
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 26, 2011, 10:08:56 AM
Have you ever heard a 50 Cent song? I mean GRODT was dope but he has always used the same 20 rhymes so how the fuck would he be able to write somethin mindblowing/extreme dope and fitting for Detox that we have not already heard? .

Dre's flow/delivery on Kush was kinda fresh and it wouldnt have been if 50 wrote it. It would be: Good/hood, chedda/better, gun/run, nympho/nympho etc. etc.

boring ass shit  ;D


"Get Rich or Die Trying" is 50 Cent's worst album.... I REPEAT "Get Rich or Die Trying" is 50 Cent's WORST album.  Everything after that album (and some before) was way better than anything off of "Get Rich or Die Trying".  Just becuz you're not a fan of 50 doesn't mean people think he's wack.  Sure he doesn't have that same aura about him as before but that's becuz everybody knows he's got money out tha ass from everywhere and his whole thing before the Vitamin Water deal was "Get rich or die trying...".  Everything about "Kush" was weak (do u have a problem with my opinion).  


"Tha Massacre" was too long, "Curtis" was a little long and didn't have the right singles other than "I Get Money", and "Before I Self Destruct" wasn't put together the right way (he should've saved some of those mixtape tracks and replaced them with some of the less fulfilling tracks).  But then at tha same time he STILL put out all of that GOOD music in the same year around the same time so TECHNICALLY his shit wasn't weak.  You're too caught up in the fan-outrage nostalgia of 50 Cent instead of just listening to the music and taking it for what it's worth and what it iz.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: polepositon on May 26, 2011, 10:25:29 AM
Don't fight the feelin...

The only way I can see Detox living up to any hype is having Dre, D.O.C, Snoop, Warren G, Rage, RBX, Kurupt, Jewell, Soopafly and maybe even Daz, all locked away in a studio vibing for a few months. Dre's music is too formulaic now, it's sounding forced and  most times it's just boring. All you hear is artists, who HOPE to be featured on it talking how great Detox will be etc etc but only D.O.C & Snoop are critical and REAL, that alone tells you who he should be working with to make this album what it should be.

These guys vibe so well together, the Up in smoke tour was the pinnacle. Dre can do whatever the fuck he wants at this point which is evident how long Interscope have waited for Detox, and all those guys I mentioned would easily drop anything to assist Dre.

I know it aint the 90's anymore, and I don't need the G-funk sythnizser or bitches & blunts etc but I know the vibe them guys have would bring good FUNKY music with some great skits/interludes, which is another thing everyone expects from a Dre album. Sadly I think it'll never happen now...
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well said.and dont forget about Cube and some Latoya Williams. Honestly though, I never was a Dre fan until he hooked up with these guys/girls. and even still i was only a fan of those who was surronding him. even when he use to come to my house sometimes... cuz my aunt sang with him...even when he use to do shows in ********, i never was a fan. it's time to bring his ass home and fuck with those who made him a brand. and that's the people mentioned within this quote and my reply.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 26, 2011, 10:25:30 AM
you made some well researched and insightful points, you also made a few 'what the fuck is this nicca talmbout' points. i like your features list minus maybe richie rich and all the diva singers (again, wtf is all that shit?), but i see how you would like to hear some soulful classic vocals integrated, nothing wrong with that i guess if done sparingly.


it wasn't really research but i know wat u mean lol.  I was going with what works and what could be.  Alot of these young bitches can't sing (they still need ALOT of time to develop).  if u want some REAL DR DRE music that's concrete then go straight to the source that's all I'm saying.  Patti, Aretha, Eryka, shiiit dogg u kiddin' me... that's year-round bbq music for the next decade.  i like Grier, I think Skylar has a beautiful voice and maybe she could work somewhere as adlibs or background vocals but people are CRAVING that REAL MUSIC/REAL HIP HOP from Dre (and everybody else i guess lol) so he should take full advantage of his power and his circle/his league.  



Just imagine, since Dre's album is gonna be played/recorded in live instrumentation then why not have something that's organic, that's soulful, that's direct/straight to tha point, why not make "Detox" beautiful lol.  I always thought Dre and Eryka's people should've collaborated, but maybe "Next Lifetime".  When you hear Eryka's records they're so soulful and fresh and some of em even sound like Next Level G Funk.  


http://www.youtube.com//v/MKa-lUp6Fak
just take the aura of this song (instrumental wise), embrace the soul, listen to it and bask it in......... now throw in Dr. Dre in the mix:
(i know Luda re-did this particular one not too long ago but i'm not saying Dre should remake this 1)

http://www.youtube.com//v/RyRcSnhoQdw&feature=related
now if Dre or somebody got some Nate Dogg verse(s) laying around then MOST DEFINITELY this would be it, this would be that track.  Imagine 1 of those tracks from "G Funk Classics" over this smh...god!  Hell put the whole 213 on the track, you know the people would eat that up.  And if you added a T.I. feature to that track it it would even sound good if Dre's considering puttin dude on the album.


*i'm not saying anything like Remake these particular tracks ("Didn't Cha Know" would be hot tho), all i'm saying is feel the vibe, get tha vibe.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Gamestarr on May 26, 2011, 10:30:25 AM
Have you ever heard a 50 Cent song? I mean GRODT was dope but he has always used the same 20 rhymes so how the fuck would he be able to write somethin mindblowing/extreme dope and fitting for Detox that we have not already heard? .

Dre's flow/delivery on Kush was kinda fresh and it wouldnt have been if 50 wrote it. It would be: Good/hood, chedda/better, gun/run, nympho/nympho etc. etc.

boring ass shit  ;D


"Get Rich or Die Trying" is 50 Cent's worst album.... I REPEAT "Get Rich or Die Trying" is 50 Cent's WORST album.  Everything after that album (and some before) was way better than anything off of "Get Rich or Die Trying".  Just becuz you're not a fan of 50 doesn't mean people think he's wack.  Sure he doesn't have that same aura about him as before but that's becuz everybody knows he's got money out tha ass from everywhere and his whole thing before the Vitamin Water deal was "Get rich or die trying...".  Everything about "Kush" was weak (do u have a problem with my opinion).  


"Tha Massacre" was too long, "Curtis" was a little long and didn't have the right singles other than "I Get Money", and "Before I Self Destruct" wasn't put together the right way (he should've saved some of those mixtape tracks and replaced them with some of the less fulfilling tracks).  But then at tha same time he STILL put out all of that GOOD music in the same year around the same time so TECHNICALLY his shit wasn't weak.  You're too caught up in the fan-outrage nostalgia of 50 Cent instead of just listening to the music and taking it for what it's worth and what it iz.

youre obviously too fond of 50 to see/hear what he really does on tracks. and lmfao @ GRODT as his worst album. No point in discussin anythin with you if you feel that way.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Dre-Day on May 26, 2011, 10:34:55 AM
first DOC comes out and says this and now Snoop, they are both right and seem bitter about it at the same time
so you think snoop & the d.o.c. should carry the album?
I disagree with most of you in here on this one.

I mean of course i just like y'all love the old click and would love for them to work closer with Dre for Detox. The thing is do you honestly think they would make that big of a difference now?

This ain't 1992 or 1999, it's 2011. The game has completely done a 180 and maybe Dre just doesn't have it anymore. I mean everybody says the same about Snoop, Dogg Pound and etc too so what makes you think they would elevate it so much?

I'm thinking it's more nostalgia than anything. If Dre decided to work in the lab with the old click and the album still bombed, would y'all blame them or would y'all just blame Dre? Cuz i that if he started working with them again and the album is the shit, everybody will give them the credit, but then if the album sucks everybody will say that it's Dre's fault.

The truth is that Dre just might not have it anymore and that is not something new or out of the ordinary. It happens to the best of them. He still has a huge legacy in Hip-Hop and will forever be remember as one of the greatest producers and i think we and he should leave it at that and maybe just scratch the whole Detox idea.
well i think he can't handle the way he's putting himself under pressure.
he seems kind of lost too.

i think he still has the talent to make a solid album, but he needs to believe in himself again.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 26, 2011, 10:36:38 AM
Have you ever heard a 50 Cent song? I mean GRODT was dope but he has always used the same 20 rhymes so how the fuck would he be able to write somethin mindblowing/extreme dope and fitting for Detox that we have not already heard? .

Dre's flow/delivery on Kush was kinda fresh and it wouldnt have been if 50 wrote it. It would be: Good/hood, chedda/better, gun/run, nympho/nympho etc. etc.

boring ass shit  ;D


"Get Rich or Die Trying" is 50 Cent's worst album.... I REPEAT "Get Rich or Die Trying" is 50 Cent's WORST album.  Everything after that album (and some before) was way better than anything off of "Get Rich or Die Trying".  Just becuz you're not a fan of 50 doesn't mean people think he's wack.  Sure he doesn't have that same aura about him as before but that's becuz everybody knows he's got money out tha ass from everywhere and his whole thing before the Vitamin Water deal was "Get rich or die trying...".  Everything about "Kush" was weak (do u have a problem with my opinion).  


"Tha Massacre" was too long, "Curtis" was a little long and didn't have the right singles other than "I Get Money", and "Before I Self Destruct" wasn't put together the right way (he should've saved some of those mixtape tracks and replaced them with some of the less fulfilling tracks).  But then at tha same time he STILL put out all of that GOOD music in the same year around the same time so TECHNICALLY his shit wasn't weak.  You're too caught up in the fan-outrage nostalgia of 50 Cent instead of just listening to the music and taking it for what it's worth and what it iz.

youre obviously too fond of 50 to see/hear what he really does on tracks. and lmfao @ GRODT as his worst album. No point in discussin anythin with you if you feel that way.


then dont talk to me. 




i'm not a fairwhether fan.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: 3rd Coast on May 26, 2011, 10:46:25 AM
you made some well researched and insightful points, you also made a few 'what the fuck is this nicca talmbout' points. i like your features list minus maybe richie rich and all the diva singers (again, wtf is all that shit?), but i see how you would like to hear some soulful classic vocals integrated, nothing wrong with that i guess if done sparingly.


it wasn't really research but i know wat u mean lol.  I was going with what works and what could be.  Alot of these young bitches can't sing (they still need ALOT of time to develop).  if u want some REAL DR DRE music that's concrete then go straight to the source that's all I'm saying.  Patti, Aretha, Eryka, shiiit dogg u kiddin' me... that's year-round bbq music for the next decade.  i like Grier, I think Skylar has a beautiful voice and maybe she could work somewhere as adlibs or background vocals but people are CRAVING that REAL MUSIC/REAL HIP HOP from Dre (and everybody else i guess lol) so he should take full advantage of his power and his circle/his league.  



Just imagine, since Dre's album is gonna be played/recorded in live instrumentation then why not have something that's organic, that's soulful, that's direct/straight to tha point, why not make "Detox" beautiful lol.  I always thought Dre and Eryka's people should've collaborated, but maybe "Next Lifetime".  When you hear Eryka's records they're so soulful and fresh and some of em even sound like Next Level G Funk.  


http://www.youtube.com//v/MKa-lUp6Fak
just take the aura of this song (instrumental wise), embrace the soul, listen to it and bask it in......... now throw in Dr. Dre in the mix:
(i know Luda re-did this particular one not too long ago but i'm not saying Dre should remake this 1)

http://www.youtube.com//v/RyRcSnhoQdw&feature=related
now if Dre or somebody got some Nate Dogg verse(s) laying around then MOST DEFINITELY this would be it, this would be that track.  Imagine 1 of those tracks from "G Funk Classics" over this smh...god!  Hell put the whole 213 on the track, you know the people would eat that up.  And if you added a T.I. feature to that track it it would even sound good if Dre's considering puttin dude on the album.


*i'm not saying anything like Remake these particular tracks ("Didn't Cha Know" would be hot tho), all i'm saying is feel the vibe, get tha vibe.

erykah does not need dre... wouldnt mesh...

leave the singin 2 the bitches he normally use...

dre is no dilla...
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: OG Snoopaveli on May 26, 2011, 10:47:12 AM
The only way I can see Detox living up to any hype is having Dre, D.O.C, Snoop, Warren G, Rage, RBX, Kurupt, Jewell, Soopafly and maybe even Daz, all locked away in a studio vibing for a few months.

nuff said!
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on May 26, 2011, 10:50:23 AM
you made some well researched and insightful points, you also made a few 'what the fuck is this nicca talmbout' points. i like your features list minus maybe richie rich and all the diva singers (again, wtf is all that shit?), but i see how you would like to hear some soulful classic vocals integrated, nothing wrong with that i guess if done sparingly.


it wasn't really research but i know wat u mean lol.  I was going with what works and what could be.  Alot of these young bitches can't sing (they still need ALOT of time to develop).  if u want some REAL DR DRE music that's concrete then go straight to the source that's all I'm saying.  Patti, Aretha, Eryka, shiiit dogg u kiddin' me... that's year-round bbq music for the next decade.  i like Grier, I think Skylar has a beautiful voice and maybe she could work somewhere as adlibs or background vocals but people are CRAVING that REAL MUSIC/REAL HIP HOP from Dre (and everybody else i guess lol) so he should take full advantage of his power and his circle/his league.  



Just imagine, since Dre's album is gonna be played/recorded in live instrumentation then why not have something that's organic, that's soulful, that's direct/straight to tha point, why not make "Detox" beautiful lol.  I always thought Dre and Eryka's people should've collaborated, but maybe "Next Lifetime".  When you hear Eryka's records they're so soulful and fresh and some of em even sound like Next Level G Funk.  


http://www.youtube.com//v/MKa-lUp6Fak
just take the aura of this song (instrumental wise), embrace the soul, listen to it and bask it in......... now throw in Dr. Dre in the mix:
(i know Luda re-did this particular one not too long ago but i'm not saying Dre should remake this 1)

http://www.youtube.com//v/RyRcSnhoQdw&feature=related
now if Dre or somebody got some Nate Dogg verse(s) laying around then MOST DEFINITELY this would be it, this would be that track.  Imagine 1 of those tracks from "G Funk Classics" over this smh...god!  Hell put the whole 213 on the track, you know the people would eat that up.  And if you added a T.I. feature to that track it it would even sound good if Dre's considering puttin dude on the album.


*i'm not saying anything like Remake these particular tracks ("Didn't Cha Know" would be hot tho), all i'm saying is feel the vibe, get tha vibe.

erykah does not need dre... wouldnt mesh...

leave the singin 2 the bitches he normally use...

dre is no dilla...


Erykah Badu would sound great on a Dre-beat
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: 3rd Coast on May 26, 2011, 11:11:30 AM
bag lady was better be4 they remixed it with xxplosive...
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 26, 2011, 11:44:02 AM
bag lady was better be4 they remixed it with xxplosive...


in your opinion son.  i'd be willing to bet BOTH of my nuts that most people wouldn't agree that Eryka and Dre would be a bad mix.  You could even serve my nuts to a shark on a silver platter. 


dre and eryka know what they would be doing.  it's the vibe... 
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Sir Petey on May 26, 2011, 11:52:43 AM
ive only heard two versions of baglady both sampled from exxplosive or the issac hayes sample dre used for it.

the album version is better then the single version though.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Quadruple OG on May 26, 2011, 12:19:41 PM
Can wish for it all you want, but there's no chance in hell Dre and Daz ever work together.

Yeah, but i think they still cool though. I got a picture of them and Snoop, Nate Dogg and B-Real that was probably taken back in 2000 or somethin'.


but see that's what i'm sayin.  BOTH of them know that they need each other for this album, maybe not from top to bottom like "The Chronic" but I can't see Dre's album being OFFICIAL without Daz on it and Daz know he needs to be on "Detox" becuz "Detox" at this point is bigger than Dr. Dre, it's like literally the soul  of his generation.  Becuz after "Detox", it's pretty much completely all about everybody else who wasn't involved in Ruthless Records and Death Row Records.


I hope what you wrote was a joke. By this logic, "2001" wasn't an "official" Dr. Dre album because there wasn't anything from Daz? GTFOH. No offense to Daz, but everyone that listened to the album probably didn't notice or care that Daz was absent from that album.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Okka on May 26, 2011, 12:24:32 PM
Can wish for it all you want, but there's no chance in hell Dre and Daz ever work together.

Yeah, but i think they still cool though. I got a picture of them and Snoop, Nate Dogg and B-Real that was probably taken back in 2000 or somethin'.


but see that's what i'm sayin.  BOTH of them know that they need each other for this album, maybe not from top to bottom like "The Chronic" but I can't see Dre's album being OFFICIAL without Daz on it and Daz know he needs to be on "Detox" becuz "Detox" at this point is bigger than Dr. Dre, it's like literally the soul  of his generation.  Becuz after "Detox", it's pretty much completely all about everybody else who wasn't involved in Ruthless Records and Death Row Records.


I hope what you wrote was a joke. By this logic, "2001" wasn't an "official" Dr. Dre album because there wasn't anything from Daz? GTFOH. No offense to Daz, but everyone that listened to the album probably didn't notice or care that Daz was absent from that album.

It's a shame that Daz wasn't on "2001" though, i'm not sayin' that he was needed. Daz had one of his dopest verses on "The Chronic".
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Quadruple OG on May 26, 2011, 12:47:03 PM
Can wish for it all you want, but there's no chance in hell Dre and Daz ever work together.

Yeah, but i think they still cool though. I got a picture of them and Snoop, Nate Dogg and B-Real that was probably taken back in 2000 or somethin'.


but see that's what i'm sayin.  BOTH of them know that they need each other for this album, maybe not from top to bottom like "The Chronic" but I can't see Dre's album being OFFICIAL without Daz on it and Daz know he needs to be on "Detox" becuz "Detox" at this point is bigger than Dr. Dre, it's like literally the soul  of his generation.  Becuz after "Detox", it's pretty much completely all about everybody else who wasn't involved in Ruthless Records and Death Row Records.


I hope what you wrote was a joke. By this logic, "2001" wasn't an "official" Dr. Dre album because there wasn't anything from Daz? GTFOH. No offense to Daz, but everyone that listened to the album probably didn't notice or care that Daz was absent from that album.

It's a shame that Daz wasn't on "2001" though, i'm not sayin' that he was needed. Daz had one of his dopest verses on "The Chronic".

Shame? Yes.
Was he sorely missed? Absolutely not.

If I were Dre and heard what Daz was saying, I'd have done the same thing and disassociate myself with him.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: bouli77 on May 26, 2011, 01:40:06 PM
Can wish for it all you want, but there's no chance in hell Dre and Daz ever work together.

Yeah, but i think they still cool though. I got a picture of them and Snoop, Nate Dogg and B-Real that was probably taken back in 2000 or somethin'.

are you talking about this picture okka :

(http://i55.tinypic.com/16kxqfm.jpg)

if so, that aint b-real but johnny j, so i guess this pictures dates back from 95-96.

Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: LodiDodi on May 26, 2011, 01:48:00 PM
"The wrong people in his environment" = Label execs (Jimmy), current pop artists (Akon, Gaga), producers who have no business being near Detox (Swizz, Alex da Kid)

A very small part of my mind thinks what Dre is putting out is being controlled.  Not to get all conspiracy-theory on yall, but it seems like the current pop sound is a formulaic money maker for the music industry in general, and the industry will do what it can to keep that formula going to keep the cash coming in, EVEN if it means not releasing music that threatens the status quo. Twice already...TWICE...Dre has changed the game with an album that the mainstream crossed over to and made everyone switch up their style.  Problem is that style is not that easy to imitate and produce identical sales figures.  A game-changing Dre album in 2011 the way all his fans know he is capable of producing, that is capable of obliterating the musical landscape, would grab huge instant and long term sales.  HOWEVER, if you put something out that kills the current popular sound then it hurts the sales of those hundreds of already established artists, and in turn the labels themselves (i.e. how many hair-metal bands were there before Nirvana dropped Nevermind, and how many were left standing when the dust settled).  

Dre putting out a new sound can make millions for Interscope. But if the mainstream pubic crosses over to that sound and decides that the current crop is played out, then Interscope and the other labels will lose millions more because the new sound won't be as easy to replicate, and because the cost to produce better quality music will be much greater than what the popular stuff costs to make now.

I don't doubt that label is deciding what Detox will be.  Detox to them is now just a brand name that has been built up over a decade.  There is a reason behind everything.  Dre's recent output of subpar music doesn't necessarily mean he is making the choices of what we get to hear.....I'm just sayin.  
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Okka on May 26, 2011, 02:03:30 PM
Can wish for it all you want, but there's no chance in hell Dre and Daz ever work together.

Yeah, but i think they still cool though. I got a picture of them and Snoop, Nate Dogg and B-Real that was probably taken back in 2000 or somethin'.

are you talking about this picture okka :

(http://i55.tinypic.com/16kxqfm.jpg)

if so, that aint b-real but johnny j, so i guess this pictures dates back from 95-96.

Nah, that's B-Real. Here's a hiqh quality version of that picture, real rare.

http://i51.tinypic.com/okd06u.png
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Quadruple OG on May 26, 2011, 02:22:18 PM
Can wish for it all you want, but there's no chance in hell Dre and Daz ever work together.

Yeah, but i think they still cool though. I got a picture of them and Snoop, Nate Dogg and B-Real that was probably taken back in 2000 or somethin'.

are you talking about this picture okka :

(http://i55.tinypic.com/16kxqfm.jpg)

if so, that aint b-real but johnny j, so i guess this pictures dates back from 95-96.

Nah, that's B-Real. Here's a hiqh quality version of that picture, real rare.

http://i51.tinypic.com/okd06u.png

From the look of that picture, I think it was taken before Dre left Death Row
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: EnzoUK on May 26, 2011, 02:24:58 PM
Can wish for it all you want, but there's no chance in hell Dre and Daz ever work together.

Yeah, but i think they still cool though. I got a picture of them and Snoop, Nate Dogg and B-Real that was probably taken back in 2000 or somethin'.

are you talking about this picture okka :

(http://i55.tinypic.com/16kxqfm.jpg)

+1 for that photo, this is why i love the dubb  8)

if so, that aint b-real but johnny j, so i guess this pictures dates back from 95-96.

Nah, that's B-Real. Here's a hiqh quality version of that picture, real rare.

http://i51.tinypic.com/okd06u.png
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on May 26, 2011, 02:26:59 PM
if i member correctly, Daz and Bad Azz were in a scene wit Snoop n Dre - in "the Wash" movie (2000 or 2001)
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: --Vance-- on May 26, 2011, 02:32:23 PM
the picture is definately not from 95 - 96. Look at the playstation controllers, the dual shocks came out in 98 - 99. so it has to be from the 2001 era.

back to the topic.. it's really sad what's happening with this album, maybe dre should just have stopped talkin' about it in 06
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Okka on May 26, 2011, 02:35:48 PM
if i member correctly, Daz and Bad Azz were in a scene wit Snoop n Dre - in "the Wash" movie (2000 or 2001)

Yeah, that's true. Buyin' weed from Snoop in that scene.

the picture is definately not from 95 - 96. Look at the playstation controllers, the dual shocks came out in 98 - 99. so it has to be from the 2001 era.

Yeah, i'm almost 100% sure it's not. Here's what wikipedia said about the DualShock controllers:

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The DualShock was introduced in Japan in late 1997, and launched in the North American market in May 1998.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: bouli77 on May 26, 2011, 02:43:25 PM
Can wish for it all you want, but there's no chance in hell Dre and Daz ever work together.

Yeah, but i think they still cool though. I got a picture of them and Snoop, Nate Dogg and B-Real that was probably taken back in 2000 or somethin'.

are you talking about this picture okka :

(http://i55.tinypic.com/16kxqfm.jpg)

if so, that aint b-real but johnny j, so i guess this pictures dates back from 95-96.

Nah, that's B-Real. Here's a hiqh quality version of that picture, real rare.

http://i51.tinypic.com/okd06u.png

props for the picture. damn you're right. he really looked like Johnny J from far though lol. which was the basis for my whole argument. dual shocks indeed came out during spring 1998 (at least out here in france).
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: GangstaBoogy on May 26, 2011, 04:25:48 PM
I'm sure they've been around each other. But no way is daz going to offer daz the opportunity to work with him again. Which is weird cuz he forgave doc, rbx, and a few other people that shitted on him
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: westside159 on May 26, 2011, 04:27:56 PM
real talk by snoop  detox is almost a joke now
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Quadruple OG on May 26, 2011, 05:31:50 PM
I'm sure they've been around each other. But no way is dre going to offer daz the opportunity to work with him again. Which is weird cuz he forgave doc, rbx, and a few other people that shitted on him


But they weren't going on for years calling Dr. Dre a fraud behind the boards. Daz had been dissing Dre as far back as '96.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 26, 2011, 05:38:14 PM
Let me add Terrace Martin to that "additional production assistance/live instrumentation credits".  Terrace can play a few notes on them synthesizers
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 26, 2011, 05:42:14 PM
I'm sure they've been around each other. But no way is dre going to offer daz the opportunity to work with him again. Which is weird cuz he forgave doc, rbx, and a few other people that shitted on him


But they weren't going on for years calling Dr. Dre a fraud behind the boards. Daz had been dissing Dre as far back as '96.


no he hasn't.  last time i ever heard Daz talk about Dre like that was 2000/2002 (i think).  Daz ain't been worried about Dre.  Sure he's claimed his fame to "The Chronic" but so has everybody else and so is everybody now with "Detox".  


I'm tellin' u; without Daz/Tha Dogg Pound there is no REAL "Detox" (it's like "Starwars" without R2-D2 and C3Po).  There's just certain elements that this album has to have in order for it to be wat it's "supposed to be".  Ain't no1 sayin put tha nigga on the lead single but if/when that collaboration goes down it'll be like the "missing piece".  


"Detox" is more than just an album, it's an event!
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Okka on May 26, 2011, 05:45:25 PM
I'm sure they've been around each other. But no way is dre going to offer daz the opportunity to work with him again. Which is weird cuz he forgave doc, rbx, and a few other people that shitted on him


But they weren't going on for years calling Dr. Dre a fraud behind the boards. Daz had been dissing Dre as far back as '96.


no he hasn't.  last time i ever heard Daz talk about Dre like that was 2000/2002 (i think).  Daz ain't been worried about Dre.  Sure he's claimed his fame to "The Chronic" but so has everybody else and so is everybody now with "Detox".

"DPG Eulogy" came out in 2005 and that DVD had Daz and Emanuel Dean talkin' about Dre stealin' credit from them.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 26, 2011, 05:51:06 PM
I'm sure they've been around each other. But no way is dre going to offer daz the opportunity to work with him again. Which is weird cuz he forgave doc, rbx, and a few other people that shitted on him


But they weren't going on for years calling Dr. Dre a fraud behind the boards. Daz had been dissing Dre as far back as '96.


no he hasn't.  last time i ever heard Daz talk about Dre like that was 2000/2002 (i think).  Daz ain't been worried about Dre.  Sure he's claimed his fame to "The Chronic" but so has everybody else and so is everybody now with "Detox".

"DPG Eulogy" came out in 2005 and that DVD had Daz and Emanuel Dean talkin' about Dre stealin' credit from them.


but that was something we had already heard at that point.  i get what you're saying but it's not like in 2005 Daz was running around saying that he was the mastermind of "The Chronic" just to save his career or gain any accolades or anything of that sort.  it's just like 50 talking about the real Ja Rule back from day at this point if some1 asked him a question or he wanted to clown about it for a second.  Most of the world doesn't have the insight nor share the same compassion about this type of shit that we do.  


In real life I betchu' that Daz and Dre would be cool today.  Maybe not the best of buddies but way more than cool enough to make some music together.  After all Dre is givin everybody the green light to go ahead and talk about their work on "Detox" and is giving people credit in the credits.  I'm just not buying that there is any real beef in 2011 over SOME of the production credits of "The Chronic" album.  Didn't Daz get $28Million or something like that from Suge anyway for his work?.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Sir Petey on May 26, 2011, 06:07:34 PM
i think when suge filed bankrupcy it made it so daz couldnt collect or some shit.

i doubt daz is even a blip on dres radar...
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: TDOT on May 26, 2011, 07:48:25 PM
Mid 2009, Daz asked about being on Detox:

"Naw Dre ain't gonna put me on there, he busy playa hatin"

Was on UStream, when he was going on every single day.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: MarshColin on May 26, 2011, 08:46:19 PM
I'm sure they've been around each other. But no way is dre going to offer daz the opportunity to work with him again. Which is weird cuz he forgave doc, rbx, and a few other people that shitted on him


But they weren't going on for years calling Dr. Dre a fraud behind the boards. Daz had been dissing Dre as far back as '96.


no he hasn't.  last time i ever heard Daz talk about Dre like that was 2000/2002 (i think).  Daz ain't been worried about Dre.  Sure he's claimed his fame to "The Chronic" but so has everybody else and so is everybody now with "Detox".  


I'm tellin' u; without Daz/Tha Dogg Pound there is no REAL "Detox" (it's like "Starwars" without R2-D2 and C3Po).  There's just certain elements that this album has to have in order for it to be wat it's "supposed to be".  Ain't no1 sayin put tha nigga on the lead single but if/when that collaboration goes down it'll be like the "missing piece".  


"Detox" is more than just an album, it's an event!

I'm sorry but that's a rather ridiculous statement. What can Daz bring to the table that's worthy of being on Detox? Pretty much nothing. He's a hypocrite when it came to what he had to say about Dre because Daz uses numerous co-producers that probably do a bulk of the work. And when he doesn't use them his music sucks. Soopafly, Mike Dean, Ivan Johnson are what made Daz's productions dope. Not Daz himself. I'm a Daz fan and always will be, but on the real he doesn't belong on Detox.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: K-MACC on May 26, 2011, 09:46:25 PM
fuck dre, jimmy and em three closet fags
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: shoo on May 27, 2011, 06:26:17 AM
no matter how many post be written i really doubt if Dre himself gives a fuck. He's probably more of a businessman than musician who cares about his fans so as long as the formula makes $$$ for him then he's cool with that. He has just put out his second best charting single in his whole solo career so i guess he's happy about that and wants to follow INAD route. sad but probably true. He don't give a fuck about you, you and you. Money are his beloved and true fanbase...
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Cheese on May 27, 2011, 06:34:23 AM
fuck detox
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Az on May 27, 2011, 06:38:59 AM
I'm sure they've been around each other. But no way is dre going to offer daz the opportunity to work with him again. Which is weird cuz he forgave doc, rbx, and a few other people that shitted on him


But they weren't going on for years calling Dr. Dre a fraud behind the boards. Daz had been dissing Dre as far back as '96.


no he hasn't.  last time i ever heard Daz talk about Dre like that was 2000/2002 (i think).  Daz ain't been worried about Dre.  Sure he's claimed his fame to "The Chronic" but so has everybody else and so is everybody now with "Detox".  


I'm tellin' u; without Daz/Tha Dogg Pound there is no REAL "Detox" (it's like "Starwars" without R2-D2 and C3Po).  There's just certain elements that this album has to have in order for it to be wat it's "supposed to be".  Ain't no1 sayin put tha nigga on the lead single but if/when that collaboration goes down it'll be like the "missing piece".  


"Detox" is more than just an album, it's an event!

I'm sorry but that's a rather ridiculous statement. What can Daz bring to the table that's worthy of being on Detox? Pretty much nothing. He's a hypocrite when it came to what he had to say about Dre because Daz uses numerous co-producers that probably do a bulk of the work. And when he doesn't use them his music sucks. Soopafly, Mike Dean, Ivan Johnson are what made Daz's productions dope. Not Daz himself. I'm a Daz fan and always will be, but on the real he doesn't belong on Detox.

I'll tell you what Daz can bring.... A vibe. A vibe from a group that mesh well together and will push Dre to the levels he needs to be; not like his current group of YES men who seem to slop his top after hearing the 100th generic piano beat/forced chorus tracsk he's been producing for the last 6-7 years.

Just like everyone says Dre brings out the best in Snoop... they bring out the best in Dre, the facts don't lie. Listen to Doggystyle, NWA albums, Both chronics, Doggfood and No-One Can Do It better, there's a vibe in those albums between them guys you can feel and that's what's missing.

No-one can blame Interscope for the detox saga because all they want is sales at the endve the day and they dont give a fuck how they get them. And if the current leaks were good enough then it'd be out by now.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Portugoal on May 27, 2011, 07:06:49 AM
Just like everyone says Dre brings out the best in Snoop... they bring out the best in Dre, the facts don't lie. Listen to Doggystyle, NWA albums, Both chronics, Doggfood and No-One Can Do It better, there's a vibe in those albums between them guys you can feel and that's what's missing.


I agree. Snoop shined on the NWA albums.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: doggfather on May 27, 2011, 07:09:56 AM
Just like everyone says Dre brings out the best in Snoop... they bring out the best in Dre, the facts don't lie. Listen to Doggystyle, NWA albums, Both chronics, Doggfood and No-One Can Do It better, there's a vibe in those albums between them guys you can feel and that's what's missing.


I agree. Snoop shined on the NWA albums.


 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Dre-Day on May 27, 2011, 07:32:56 AM
no matter how many post be written i really doubt if Dre himself gives a fuck. He's probably more of a businessman than musician who cares about his fans so as long as the formula makes $$$ for him then he's cool with that. He has just put out his second best charting single in his whole solo career so i guess he's happy about that and wants to follow INAD route. sad but probably true. He don't give a fuck about you, you and you. Money are his beloved and true fanbase...
it's not that simple.

i mean if what you said is true, then why aren't there multiple parts of Detox out? that's how he could have exploited it. i bet the several recording sessions were expensive.
not saying he doesn't care about money, but i think he cares more about succeeding with Detox.

I'll tell you what Daz can bring.... A vibe. A vibe from a group that mesh well together and will push Dre to the levels he needs to be; not like his current group of YES men who seem to slop his top after hearing the 100th generic piano beat/forced chorus tracsk he's been producing for the last 6-7 years.

Just like everyone says Dre brings out the best in Snoop... they bring out the best in Dre, the facts don't lie. Listen to Doggystyle, NWA albums, Both chronics, Doggfood and No-One Can Do It better, there's a vibe in those albums between them guys you can feel and that's what's missing.

No-one can blame Interscope for the detox saga because all they want is sales at the endve the day and they dont give a fuck how they get them. And if the current leaks were good enough then it'd be out by now.
and daz doesn't belong to the yes men? come on.

your instrumental argument doesn't make sense either, Snoop is rapping over those 'generic' piano beats, he even begged to use the one from Imagine for his album.

anyway, isn't it obvious that dre is mainly responsible for the delays of Detox?
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Quadruple OG on May 27, 2011, 08:05:01 AM
I'm sure they've been around each other. But no way is dre going to offer daz the opportunity to work with him again. Which is weird cuz he forgave doc, rbx, and a few other people that shitted on him


But they weren't going on for years calling Dr. Dre a fraud behind the boards. Daz had been dissing Dre as far back as '96.


no he hasn't.  last time i ever heard Daz talk about Dre like that was 2000/2002 (i think).  Daz ain't been worried about Dre.  Sure he's claimed his fame to "The Chronic" but so has everybody else and so is everybody now with "Detox".  


I'm tellin' u; without Daz/Tha Dogg Pound there is no REAL "Detox" (it's like "Starwars" without R2-D2 and C3Po).  There's just certain elements that this album has to have in order for it to be wat it's "supposed to be".  Ain't no1 sayin put tha nigga on the lead single but if/when that collaboration goes down it'll be like the "missing piece".  


"Detox" is more than just an album, it's an event!

I'm sorry but that's a rather ridiculous statement. What can Daz bring to the table that's worthy of being on Detox? Pretty much nothing. He's a hypocrite when it came to what he had to say about Dre because Daz uses numerous co-producers that probably do a bulk of the work. And when he doesn't use them his music sucks. Soopafly, Mike Dean, Ivan Johnson are what made Daz's productions dope. Not Daz himself. I'm a Daz fan and always will be, but on the real he doesn't belong on Detox.

I'll tell you what Daz can bring.... A vibe. A vibe from a group that mesh well together and will push Dre to the levels he needs to be; not like his current group of YES men who seem to slop his top after hearing the 100th generic piano beat/forced chorus tracsk he's been producing for the last 6-7 years.

Just like everyone says Dre brings out the best in Snoop... they bring out the best in Dre, the facts don't lie. Listen to Doggystyle, NWA albums, Both chronics, Doggfood and No-One Can Do It better, there's a vibe in those albums between them guys you can feel and that's what's missing.

No-one can blame Interscope for the detox saga because all they want is sales at the endve the day and they dont give a fuck how they get them. And if the current leaks were good enough then it'd be out by now.

Daz can bring a vibe but the FACT THAT CANNOT BE ARGUED is 2001 was a critical and commercial success and Daz had Zero vibe/influence on the album.

Daz doesn't need Dre to make a good album, and Dre doesn't need Daz to make a good album.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: shoo on May 27, 2011, 09:57:58 AM
no matter how many post be written i really doubt if Dre himself gives a fuck. He's probably more of a businessman than musician who cares about his fans so as long as the formula makes $$$ for him then he's cool with that. He has just put out his second best charting single in his whole solo career so i guess he's happy about that and wants to follow INAD route. sad but probably true. He don't give a fuck about you, you and you. Money are his beloved and true fanbase...
it's not that simple.

i mean if what you said is true, then why aren't there multiple parts of Detox out? that's how he could have exploited it. i bet the several recording sessions were expensive.
not saying he doesn't care about money, but i think he cares more about succeeding with Detox.


THIS is not that simple. Music business is still a business. Every time you put out album you take a risk. You need to put massive money and then hope for an income. Every single major release needs business plan... Surely Interscope business plan wasn't aimed at Detox back in the days when Dre was still top-notch producer (that's why we havent seen detox not only as a multiple album but even as a one album). 50 and Game were making money for Interscope so there was no need to risk with Detox. I guess recently they faced fact that this is probably last chance for them (and Dre) to put out well-selling record (and as far as i know they need to do that due to the record deal). They know Eminem's last success may be very helpful.... it's still my speculations tho but it makes more sense to me than saying Dre didn't release Detox because he lost his confidence. It's oversimplification. It's like trying to understand worldwide businessman problems from a stay-at-home man's perspective lol...

anyway, isn't it obvious that dre is mainly responsible for the delays of Detox?

of course it's not obvious
 
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Stan on May 27, 2011, 10:35:50 AM
I don't know man I think at this point they need to get it out this year OR can it.  Scrap it, leave it, don't talk about it again ...

They have been doing this shit for too long, I mean they gave Dre the cover of XXL (how many times?), the Grammys, two videos, the Pacquiao hype-up promo, etc.  What else can they do?  All this momentum will be lost very soon, if it hasn't already.  If they give us another teaser and it still doesn't come out I think I'm gonna call it quits on this.  

How far can you lead people on?  This really reminds me of the G&R tragedy where they had the hype then released the album 10 years too late ...

Whos with me ?  
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Action! on May 27, 2011, 10:58:04 AM
I think snoop is starting to sound like the new west did when Snoop & Cube were not fucking with them.  HYPOCRITE? Me thinks so. 

Dre's got a good team of MCs around him, as in consistently working for him,

Stat Quo
Earl Hayes
Slim The Mobster
Eminem
Sly
The Game

Plus he's got the regular rotating cast of characters,

Kendrick Lamar
Busta Rhymes
Raekwon

Then when 50 is called to do work he'll put it in and not to mention all the material Bishop Lamont recorded for Dre. 

Snoop is sounding just like Bishop or Crooked or whomever was bitching about the behind-the-scenes politricks snoop & cube were pulling years back
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Dre-Day on May 27, 2011, 11:02:57 AM
no matter how many post be written i really doubt if Dre himself gives a fuck. He's probably more of a businessman than musician who cares about his fans so as long as the formula makes $$$ for him then he's cool with that. He has just put out his second best charting single in his whole solo career so i guess he's happy about that and wants to follow INAD route. sad but probably true. He don't give a fuck about you, you and you. Money are his beloved and true fanbase...
it's not that simple.

i mean if what you said is true, then why aren't there multiple parts of Detox out? that's how he could have exploited it. i bet the several recording sessions were expensive.
not saying he doesn't care about money, but i think he cares more about succeeding with Detox.


THIS is not that simple. Music business is still a business. Every time you put out album you take a risk. You need to put massive money and then hope for an income. Every single major release needs business plan... Surely Interscope business plan wasn't aimed at Detox back in the days when Dre was still top-notch producer (that's why we havent seen detox not only as a multiple album but even as a one album). 50 and Game were making money for Interscope so there was no need to risk with Detox. I guess recently they faced fact that this is probably last chance for them (and Dre) to put out well-selling record (and as far as i know they need to do that due to the record deal). They know Eminem's last success may be very helpful.... it's still my speculations tho but it makes more sense to me than saying Dre didn't release Detox because he lost his confidence. It's oversimplification. It's like trying to understand worldwide businessman problems from a stay-at-home man's perspective lol...
how do you know they didn't have a business plan? did you visit any meetings?

anyway, the confidence thing came from a friend of dre ( eminem). plus other witnesses said dre tried several directions for Detox over the years & started over. you don't do that if you're confident.

anyway, isn't it obvious that dre is mainly responsible for the delays of Detox?

of course it's not obvious
 
it is to me. if dre says he's ready & interscope is happy with the material, then i'm sure they will put it out asap.

I don't know man I think at this point they need to get it out this year OR can it.  Scrap it, leave it, don't talk about it again ...

They have been doing this shit for too long, I mean they gave Dre the cover of XXL (how many times?), the Grammys, two videos, the Pacquiao hype-up promo, etc.  What else can they do?  All this momentum will be lost very soon, if it hasn't already.  If they give us another teaser and it still doesn't come out I think I'm gonna call it quits on this. 

How far can you lead people on?  This really reminds me of the G&R tragedy where they had the hype then released the album 10 years too late ...

Whos with me ? 
you're right that timing is important. how well is the single with eminem doing anyway?

not sure about scrapping, but i'd like to hear to full version of Die hard
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: gfunkgueroLA on May 27, 2011, 11:21:17 AM
Bottom line Dre is looking more and more like a little bitch with all this attention he likes to acquire... Snoop said what needed to be said and thats that... Yeah the people around Dre are whatever except for Game, Kendrick Lamar, and Eminem...the rest of those cats are average...DPG,DOC, Kokane Kurupt need to be in the lab to make this album better than 2001...fuck all that hype that Dre likes to pull off thats some lame shit... The Real West Coast stand up!!!!lol
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: BG Rapsodie on May 27, 2011, 11:31:47 AM
lol who are these "wrong people" in his environment?
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: shoo on May 27, 2011, 11:37:21 AM
no matter how many post be written i really doubt if Dre himself gives a fuck. He's probably more of a businessman than musician who cares about his fans so as long as the formula makes $$$ for him then he's cool with that. He has just put out his second best charting single in his whole solo career so i guess he's happy about that and wants to follow INAD route. sad but probably true. He don't give a fuck about you, you and you. Money are his beloved and true fanbase...
it's not that simple.

i mean if what you said is true, then why aren't there multiple parts of Detox out? that's how he could have exploited it. i bet the several recording sessions were expensive.
not saying he doesn't care about money, but i think he cares more about succeeding with Detox.


THIS is not that simple. Music business is still a business. Every time you put out album you take a risk. You need to put massive money and then hope for an income. Every single major release needs business plan... Surely Interscope business plan wasn't aimed at Detox back in the days when Dre was still top-notch producer (that's why we havent seen detox not only as a multiple album but even as a one album). 50 and Game were making money for Interscope so there was no need to risk with Detox. I guess recently they faced fact that this is probably last chance for them (and Dre) to put out well-selling record (and as far as i know they need to do that due to the record deal). They know Eminem's last success may be very helpful.... it's still my speculations tho but it makes more sense to me than saying Dre didn't release Detox because he lost his confidence. It's oversimplification. It's like trying to understand worldwide businessman problems from a stay-at-home man's perspective lol...
how do you know they didn't have a business plan? did you visit any meetings?



anyway, the confidence thing came from a friend of dre ( eminem). plus other witnesses said dre tried several directions for Detox over the years & started over. you don't do that if you're confident.

i told you this is only me speculating. the "surely" word was too far... my fault. but hey i never told they didn't have a businessplan. i told it wasn't aimed at Dre. Looks like other artists were their main products back in the days. not dre.

Speaking of confidence I still think you're oversimplifying. I don't think Dre has such a strong position in Interscope. If this scrapped material was good but Dre had no confidence why the fuck Interscope didn't pushed him to put it out? It can;t be that hard since he is Interscope's employee. I think it's them who decide when they want to spend their money.... It must be really strange relationship if it look like this 10 years later.... Dre: Ok... i'm happy with my material. give me the money so i can put it out' or Interscope: 'it's a great time to make some money. we have the budged, your material is the bomb. We're putting it out". Dre: "no i don't want it. I don;t like my songs'. lol ;) Interscope is a corporation where all decisions are being taken by the board or something like that... not by one man who works for them. At the end of the day Interscope have the rights to every single song Dre has made while working for them. so if they heard the material and they thought it's good they could have put it out...

and oh... i think you shouldn't trust in every single word you read/hear in the interview. Don't forget Eminem is also Intersocpe's employee...

Don't get me wrong homey. i'm not saying i'm right (what is more i think you could be right... that's why i want to discuss) . I just always try to analyze the situation because different people in music business talk different shit. And the situation with Detox that was told to the public sound very ridiculous to me.

damn... having different opinions is such a great thing. isn't it? peace  ;)


Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: BG Rapsodie on May 27, 2011, 12:01:27 PM
Speaking of confidence I still think you're oversimplifying. I don't think Dre has such a strong position in Interscope. If this scrapped material was good but Dre had no confidence why the fuck Interscope didn't pushed him to put it out? It can;t be that hard since he is Interscope's employee. I think it's them who decide when they want to spend their money.... It must be really strange relationship if it look like this 10 years later.... Dre: Ok... i'm happy with my material. give me the money so i can put it out' or Interscope: 'it's a great time to make some money. we have the budged, your material is the bomb. We're putting it out". Dre: "no i don't want it. I don;t like my songs'. lol ;) Interscope is a corporation where all decisions are being taken by the board or something like that... not by one man who works for them. At the end of the day Interscope have the rights to every single song Dre has made while working for them. so if they heard the material and they thought it's good they could have put it out...

lmao this sounds stupid. What are they going to do, force Dre to hand over his masters and put their own version of his album out? That'd be incredibly stupid of them. One, they'd lose a huge asset by pissing off Dre and he'd just leave Interscope. He wouldn't be out there promoting the album, losing sales. And since Wideawake can't put out his Death Row material, I'm sure he has a similar thing in his current contract with Interscope.

If Interscope had that kind of power over Dre then we would have seen an album years ago. Aside from Em and 50, Detox has been the biggest thing going for Aftermath. If Jimmy is the money hungry Jew everyone makes him out to be, wouldn't he have made Dre finish the album? Obviously they treat Dre very well since he barely puts out anything at all and yet they keep Aftermath.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Get It Off Ya Chest on May 27, 2011, 12:09:31 PM
lol who are these "wrong people" in his environment?

Exactly, if Snoop's gonna bother bringing this subject up, he should go the whole way and be specific, I feel
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Stan on May 27, 2011, 12:16:57 PM
Each year Dre gets older and so do his fans.  The people that have the extra dough to buy music are 13-21, and I don't think any of them give a fuck who Dre is.  If it ain't Drake, Weezy, Em, Soulja, that's it!

Dre is riding on Em (we can see that) but if he still he can't do it then what?

Time is of the essence and I gotta think its now or never.  The older hardcores will get it but the older, average Dre fan that was into 2001, has moved on.  I don't think it will be as big is it could've been and that might be what they're worried about ...

ALso... casual fans reading December XXL issue expect Detox to drop in February like the magazine says so.  Does it happen?  No ... and it become forgotten and the hype and promo is out the window.  ::)
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: nad45 on May 27, 2011, 12:45:49 PM
If Doctor Dre doesn't want to work with Snoop and the DPG anymore, fuck it, they don't need him. Snoop needs to stop waiting for this man.
Take D.O.C for some help on the raps, all the dpg familly for the featurings, Fredwreck, Battlecat, Terrace Martin, DJ Quik, DAZ, Soopafly, Meech, Warren G, The Parliament, and the Snoopadelics for the production.
Lock them all in the studio and we will have an album better than Doggystyle. 8)
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Will_B on May 27, 2011, 12:47:17 PM
If Doctor Dre doesn't want to work with Snoop and the DPG anymore, fuck it, they don't need him. Snoop needs to stop waiting for this man.
Take D.O.C for some help on the raps, all the dpg familly for the featuring, Fredwreck, Battlecat, Terrace Martin, DJ Quik, DAZ, Soopafly, Meech, Warren G, The Parliament, and the Snoopadelics for the production.
Lock them all in the studio and we will have an album better than Doggystyle. 8)



Totally true. Why does this never happen though?
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Dre-Day on May 27, 2011, 01:12:10 PM
no matter how many post be written i really doubt if Dre himself gives a fuck. He's probably more of a businessman than musician who cares about his fans so as long as the formula makes $$$ for him then he's cool with that. He has just put out his second best charting single in his whole solo career so i guess he's happy about that and wants to follow INAD route. sad but probably true. He don't give a fuck about you, you and you. Money are his beloved and true fanbase...
it's not that simple.

i mean if what you said is true, then why aren't there multiple parts of Detox out? that's how he could have exploited it. i bet the several recording sessions were expensive.
not saying he doesn't care about money, but i think he cares more about succeeding with Detox.


THIS is not that simple. Music business is still a business. Every time you put out album you take a risk. You need to put massive money and then hope for an income. Every single major release needs business plan... Surely Interscope business plan wasn't aimed at Detox back in the days when Dre was still top-notch producer (that's why we havent seen detox not only as a multiple album but even as a one album). 50 and Game were making money for Interscope so there was no need to risk with Detox. I guess recently they faced fact that this is probably last chance for them (and Dre) to put out well-selling record (and as far as i know they need to do that due to the record deal). They know Eminem's last success may be very helpful.... it's still my speculations tho but it makes more sense to me than saying Dre didn't release Detox because he lost his confidence. It's oversimplification. It's like trying to understand worldwide businessman problems from a stay-at-home man's perspective lol...
how do you know they didn't have a business plan? did you visit any meetings?



anyway, the confidence thing came from a friend of dre ( eminem). plus other witnesses said dre tried several directions for Detox over the years & started over. you don't do that if you're confident.

i told you this is only me speculating. the "surely" word was too far... my fault. but hey i never told they didn't have a businessplan. i told it wasn't aimed at Dre. Looks like other artists were their main products back in the days. not dre.

Speaking of confidence I still think you're oversimplifying. I don't think Dre has such a strong position in Interscope. If this scrapped material was good but Dre had no confidence why the fuck Interscope didn't pushed him to put it out? It can;t be that hard since he is Interscope's employee. I think it's them who decide when they want to spend their money.... It must be really strange relationship if it look like this 10 years later.... Dre: Ok... i'm happy with my material. give me the money so i can put it out' or Interscope: 'it's a great time to make some money. we have the budged, your material is the bomb. We're putting it out". Dre: "no i don't want it. I don;t like my songs'. lol ;) Interscope is a corporation where all decisions are being taken by the board or something like that... not by one man who works for them. At the end of the day Interscope have the rights to every single song Dre has made while working for them. so if they heard the material and they thought it's good they could have put it out...

and oh... i think you shouldn't trust in every single word you read/hear in the interview. Don't forget Eminem is also Intersocpe's employee...

Don't get me wrong homey. i'm not saying i'm right (what is more i think you could be right... that's why i want to discuss) . I just always try to analyze the situation because different people in music business talk different shit. And the situation with Detox that was told to the public sound very ridiculous to me.

damn... having different opinions is such a great thing. isn't it? peace  ;)
ok, it just doesn't make sense to me to not have a business plan for dre.

anyway, i didn't say dre was powerful at interscope, but i think he has a certain control over his own projects.
i doubt interscope can release dre's material without his permission, but even if they can, i don't think they want to ruin the partnership.

you have a point about interviews, but like you, i filter things. yes eminem is signed to interscope, but he's speaking on personal things since the beginning of his career. sure his word may not be the truth, but i believe him.

yeah nothing wrong with different visions ;)

Each year Dre gets older and so do his fans.  The people that have the extra dough to buy music are 13-21, and I don't think any of them give a fuck who Dre is.  If it ain't Drake, Weezy, Em, Soulja, that's it!
based on what?
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Stan on May 27, 2011, 01:20:02 PM
Each year Dre gets older and so do his fans.  The people that have the extra dough to buy music are 13-21, and I don't think any of them give a fuck who Dre is.  If it ain't Drake, Weezy, Em, Soulja, that's it!
based on what?
Mmm when I was in school I believe that was the stat.  13-21 (cuz they live at home) in North-America have the most income to dispose.  The argument was why has record sales gone down the shitter?  Is the money run out?
Hell no, it's because people can download music for free and spend their money on other shit.  I believe cell phones and ringtones were at the top of the list in which the youngins were spending that dough.  The $$ didn't just evaporate, it went somewhere else. 
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Dre-Day on May 27, 2011, 01:33:18 PM
Each year Dre gets older and so do his fans.  The people that have the extra dough to buy music are 13-21, and I don't think any of them give a fuck who Dre is.  If it ain't Drake, Weezy, Em, Soulja, that's it!
based on what?
Mmm when I was in school I believe that was the stat.  13-21 (cuz they live at home) in North-America have the most income to dispose.  The argument was why has record sales gone down the shitter?  Is the money run out?
Hell no, it's because people can download music for free and spend their money on other shit.  I believe cell phones and ringtones were at the top of the list in which the youngins were spending that dough.  The $$ didn't just evaporate, it went somewhere else. 
really?
if that's true, then a lot of 21+ people are getting raped financially :P
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 27, 2011, 01:35:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com//v/Si1LTxeHKI8

is this the type of sound and vibe of instrumentals y'all want on "Detox"?  Are these the types of beats y'all want to hear Dre on or do u want some new shit, and what type of new shit do u mean
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Stan on May 27, 2011, 01:42:48 PM
Each year Dre gets older and so do his fans.  The people that have the extra dough to buy music are 13-21, and I don't think any of them give a fuck who Dre is.  If it ain't Drake, Weezy, Em, Soulja, that's it!
based on what?
Mmm when I was in school I believe that was the stat.  13-21 (cuz they live at home) in North-America have the most income to dispose.  The argument was why has record sales gone down the shitter?  Is the money run out?
Hell no, it's because people can download music for free and spend their money on other shit.  I believe cell phones and ringtones were at the top of the list in which the youngins were spending that dough.  The $$ didn't just evaporate, it went somewhere else. 
really?
if that's true, then a lot of 21+ people are getting raped financially :P

I don't follow you ....

Disposable income is how much you earn to how much you dispose on stuff like cds
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 27, 2011, 01:48:22 PM
Stan, kids don't buy cd's anymore lol.  


nobody does.... albums that sell big (100K+) are people who are from all different types of backgrounds and cult members of the artist(s).  if anything they buy single songs off of i-Tunes and shit like that but kids definitely don't buy albums, most of us youngin's don't even have jobs let alone disposable income.  i know when i'm broke I spend my last $3 on a 40 and a lottery ticket, not i-Tunes.


http://www.youtube.com//v/B7miGygkF_8 this is my idea of buying a song.  but for the record I personally would buy "Detox" tho
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Stan on May 27, 2011, 02:15:47 PM
Stan, kids don't buy cd's anymore lol.  


nobody does.... albums that sell big (100K+) are people who are from all different types of backgrounds and cult members of the artist(s).  if anything they buy single songs off of i-Tunes and shit like that but kids definitely don't buy albums, most of us youngin's don't even have jobs let alone disposable income.  i know when i'm broke I spend my last $3 on a 40 and a lottery ticket, not i-Tunes.
this is my idea of buying a song.  but for the record I personally would buy "Detox" tho

I know I was just using an example...  Kids buy ringtones and shit to do with mobile devices now.  And ya if you get 200 dollars a year allowance or 1500 year at a part-time job and you can spend all of it on Itunes and Iphones and Beats by Dre and HP computers, cuz you have no bills, then that is disposable income.

10 years ago I would've blown my $ on Detox paraphernalia but its too late !  I'm a bigger Dre fan the kids that can blow their money on that shiat 
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Get It Off Ya Chest on May 27, 2011, 04:18:03 PM
Each year Dre gets older and so do his fans.  The people that have the extra dough to buy music are 13-21, and I don't think any of them give a fuck who Dre is.  If it ain't Drake, Weezy, Em, Soulja, that's it!
based on what?
Mmm when I was in school I believe that was the stat.  13-21 (cuz they live at home) in North-America have the most income to dispose.  The argument was why has record sales gone down the shitter?  Is the money run out?
Hell no, it's because people can download music for free and spend their money on other shit.  I believe cell phones and ringtones were at the top of the list in which the youngins were spending that dough.  The $$ didn't just evaporate, it went somewhere else. 
really?
if that's true, then a lot of 21+ people are getting raped financially :P

Ha :laugh:

I see what Stan's meaning, but most 21+s have jobs, and are able to splash out on at least an occasional CD
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Stan on May 27, 2011, 05:44:34 PM
Look I'm not trying to get into economics 101 this is a Dre thread ... my bad ... but all I'm saying is the people that make or USED to make albums go 5 x platinum are not Dre fans: their Drake fans.  Ya the older ones will cop it but we're not the category that makes it sell millions ... that's it!  Jimmy must know that, I think he's pushing it ... Dre is just what, insecure????   :-[  Who knows.  I doubt Dre has had the "wrong people" in his environment for the 10+ years of Detox in the making.

I think Jimmy is trying his hardest to get it out as soon as possible.  Wasn't he the one to introduce the dre/jay-z single in Dres ipod at the Boston Redsox Stadium?  Jimmy knows the clock is ticking.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: arubiano83 on May 27, 2011, 06:17:34 PM
we made him rich, we bought his albums, headphones etc..we are the reason that he is still relevant today..without releasing an album in 12 years
so now he owes us an album We want :D!!
fuck a detox, make a chronic 2012 and call warren g
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Sir Petey on May 27, 2011, 07:41:35 PM
ive never seen so many dumb niggas try to play smart....free post.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Matty on May 27, 2011, 10:35:05 PM
so detox july or it could be a 4th quarter or 2012 release at this rate. unless jimmytox suddenly emerges, 4 inch biceps built to bang.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: jeromechickenbone on May 27, 2011, 10:39:35 PM
Dre sold his bootyhole to the Jews a while back. They are the reason his shit is so wack these days. He literally sold his soul for riches, and in turn he is their little jiggaboo, bojangling anyhow they tell him. Dre has no choice how his music sounds, it's all dictated to him.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Matty on May 27, 2011, 10:43:40 PM
Dre sold his bootyhole to the Jews a while back. They are the reason his shit is so wack these days. He literally sold his soul for riches, and in turn he is their little jiggaboo, bojangling anyhow they tell him. Dre has no choice how his music sounds, it's all dictated to him.

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Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Sir Petey on May 27, 2011, 11:09:42 PM
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Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Matty on May 27, 2011, 11:26:01 PM
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Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: shoo on May 28, 2011, 01:26:11 AM
Speaking of confidence I still think you're oversimplifying. I don't think Dre has such a strong position in Interscope. If this scrapped material was good but Dre had no confidence why the fuck Interscope didn't pushed him to put it out? It can;t be that hard since he is Interscope's employee. I think it's them who decide when they want to spend their money.... It must be really strange relationship if it look like this 10 years later.... Dre: Ok... i'm happy with my material. give me the money so i can put it out' or Interscope: 'it's a great time to make some money. we have the budged, your material is the bomb. We're putting it out". Dre: "no i don't want it. I don;t like my songs'. lol ;) Interscope is a corporation where all decisions are being taken by the board or something like that... not by one man who works for them. At the end of the day Interscope have the rights to every single song Dre has made while working for them. so if they heard the material and they thought it's good they could have put it out...

lmao this sounds stupid. What are they going to do, force Dre to hand over his masters and put their own version of his album out? That'd be incredibly stupid of them. One, they'd lose a huge asset by pissing off Dre and he'd just leave Interscope. He wouldn't be out there promoting the album, losing sales. And since Wideawake can't put out his Death Row material, I'm sure he has a similar thing in his current contract with Interscope.

If Interscope had that kind of power over Dre then we would have seen an album years ago. Aside from Em and 50, Detox has been the biggest thing going for Aftermath. If Jimmy is the money hungry Jew everyone makes him out to be, wouldn't he have made Dre finish the album? Obviously they treat Dre very well since he barely puts out anything at all and yet they keep Aftermath.

well... my point wasn't exactly about the power of Interscope over Dre. It was about supposed power of Dre over Interscope... About how people are oversymplifying things when they talk about the album release. I'm sure it's not like only Dre decides when he wants to put out an album... that was my point... that i doubt it's only Dre's fault we haven't seen Detox yet. and again before you call me stupid - I was saying this from the start - these are only my speculations. I'm not saying i'm right. I'm trying to discuss to know other's opinion and to get more knowledge. I'm not trying to act like i'm the smartest one.

You're right saying it would be stupid to put out album without Dre's permission. But i NEVER said they SHOULD do that. Again... my post was all about my doubts in Dre's power at Interscope... as far as i remember Dre has sold almost all his Aftermath rights to Interscope (i could be wrong tho)... so that basically means they rule him..at least on the paper....

Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: BG Rapsodie on May 28, 2011, 01:45:42 AM
Speaking of confidence I still think you're oversimplifying. I don't think Dre has such a strong position in Interscope. If this scrapped material was good but Dre had no confidence why the fuck Interscope didn't pushed him to put it out? It can;t be that hard since he is Interscope's employee. I think it's them who decide when they want to spend their money.... It must be really strange relationship if it look like this 10 years later.... Dre: Ok... i'm happy with my material. give me the money so i can put it out' or Interscope: 'it's a great time to make some money. we have the budged, your material is the bomb. We're putting it out". Dre: "no i don't want it. I don;t like my songs'. lol ;) Interscope is a corporation where all decisions are being taken by the board or something like that... not by one man who works for them. At the end of the day Interscope have the rights to every single song Dre has made while working for them. so if they heard the material and they thought it's good they could have put it out...

lmao this sounds stupid. What are they going to do, force Dre to hand over his masters and put their own version of his album out? That'd be incredibly stupid of them. One, they'd lose a huge asset by pissing off Dre and he'd just leave Interscope. He wouldn't be out there promoting the album, losing sales. And since Wideawake can't put out his Death Row material, I'm sure he has a similar thing in his current contract with Interscope.

If Interscope had that kind of power over Dre then we would have seen an album years ago. Aside from Em and 50, Detox has been the biggest thing going for Aftermath. If Jimmy is the money hungry Jew everyone makes him out to be, wouldn't he have made Dre finish the album? Obviously they treat Dre very well since he barely puts out anything at all and yet they keep Aftermath.

well... my point wasn't exactly about the power of Interscope over Dre. It was about supposed power of Dre over Interscope... About how people are oversymplifying things when they talk about the album release. I'm sure it's not like only Dre decides when he wants to put out an album... that was my point... that i doubt it's only Dre's fault we haven't seen Detox yet. and again before you call me stupid - I was saying this from the start - these are only my speculations. I'm not saying i'm right. I'm trying to discuss to know other's opinion and to get more knowledge. I'm not trying to act like i'm the smartest one.

You're right saying it would be stupid to put out album without Dre's permission. But i NEVER said they SHOULD do that. Again... my post was all about my doubts in Dre's power at Interscope... as far as i remember Dre has sold almost all his Aftermath rights to Interscope (i could be wrong tho)... so that basically means they rule him..at least on the paper....



Obviously Interscope wouldn't put out records they didn't believe in. That's probably why most of the artists Dre signed never released an album on Aftermath. But Detox is a cash cow that's damn near guaranteed. Aside from 50 and Em it's been the biggest thing going on at Aftermath for the past 10 years. Surely they want the album to come out. I don't think you can blame the delay on anyone but Dre.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Dre-Day on May 28, 2011, 02:23:35 AM
Each year Dre gets older and so do his fans.  The people that have the extra dough to buy music are 13-21, and I don't think any of them give a fuck who Dre is.  If it ain't Drake, Weezy, Em, Soulja, that's it!
based on what?
Mmm when I was in school I believe that was the stat.  13-21 (cuz they live at home) in North-America have the most income to dispose.  The argument was why has record sales gone down the shitter?  Is the money run out?
Hell no, it's because people can download music for free and spend their money on other shit.  I believe cell phones and ringtones were at the top of the list in which the youngins were spending that dough.  The $$ didn't just evaporate, it went somewhere else. 
really?
if that's true, then a lot of 21+ people are getting raped financially :P

I don't follow you ....

Disposable income is how much you earn to how much you dispose on stuff like cds
i know what it means, i'm just surprised.
Look I'm not trying to get into economics 101 this is a Dre thread ... my bad ... but all I'm saying is the people that make or USED to make albums go 5 x platinum are not Dre fans: their Drake fans.  Ya the older ones will cop it but we're not the category that makes it sell millions ... that's it!  Jimmy must know that, I think he's pushing it ... Dre is just what, insecure????   :-[  Who knows.  I doubt Dre has had the "wrong people" in his environment for the 10+ years of Detox in the making.

I think Jimmy is trying his hardest to get it out as soon as possible.  Wasn't he the one to introduce the dre/jay-z single in Dres ipod at the Boston Redsox Stadium?  Jimmy knows the clock is ticking.
nah it's not your fault, i asked you a question so i started it :laugh:

anyway, yeah jimmy was excited about under pressure.
well... my point wasn't exactly about the power of Interscope over Dre. It was about supposed power of Dre over Interscope... About how people are oversymplifying things when they talk about the album release. I'm sure it's not like only Dre decides when he wants to put out an album... that was my point... that i doubt it's only Dre's fault we haven't seen Detox yet. and again before you call me stupid - I was saying this from the start - these are only my speculations. I'm not saying i'm right. I'm trying to discuss to know other's opinion and to get more knowledge. I'm not trying to act like i'm the smartest one.

You're right saying it would be stupid to put out album without Dre's permission. But i NEVER said they SHOULD do that. Again... my post was all about my doubts in Dre's power at Interscope... as far as i remember Dre has sold almost all his Aftermath rights to Interscope (i could be wrong tho)... so that basically means they rule him..at least on the paper....
note, i said mainly. im sure he has obligations with his label too & private things.

i think you're right about the aftermath shares, but i believe he still has some control over his own projects.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Matty on May 28, 2011, 08:43:28 AM
jimmy said dre had these 2 new songs that were 'incredible'. and that he's on a roll and 'hittin 'em out the park'. presumably he meant Kush and INAD. really incredible.

dre also said 'y'all niggas gon' love this shit' but who knows what he was talking about. gotta presume it's other stuff that may one day be released.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: PhunkyDoob on May 28, 2011, 08:48:17 AM
jimmy said dre had these 2 new songs that were 'incredible'. and that he's on a roll and 'hittin 'em out the park'. presumably he meant Kush and INAD. really incredible.

dre also said 'y'all niggas gon' love this shit' but who knows what he was talking about. gotta presume it's other stuff that may one day be released.

When did they say this? Recently or..? If so can you please gives a link to the quotes.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Matty on May 28, 2011, 08:50:49 AM
jimmy said dre had these 2 new songs that were 'incredible'. and that he's on a roll and 'hittin 'em out the park'. presumably he meant Kush and INAD. really incredible.

dre also said 'y'all niggas gon' love this shit' but who knows what he was talking about. gotta presume it's other stuff that may one day be released.

When did they say this? Recently or..? If so can you please gives a link to the quotes.

there's a thread with the dre quote somewhere, backstage after he performed with eminem. the stuff jimmy was saying at the time jimmy/dre were doing a few joint interview spots with the baseball thing etc, so a long time ago. the 2 songs will be the ones that were released, perhaps under pressure? don't have a link handy...
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Dre-Day on May 28, 2011, 09:46:11 AM
jimmy said dre had these 2 new songs that were 'incredible'. and that he's on a roll and 'hittin 'em out the park'. presumably he meant Kush and INAD. really incredible.

dre also said 'y'all niggas gon' love this shit' but who knows what he was talking about. gotta presume it's other stuff that may one day be released.

When did they say this? Recently or..? If so can you please gives a link to the quotes.

there's a thread with the dre quote somewhere, backstage after he performed with eminem. the stuff jimmy was saying at the time jimmy/dre were doing a few joint interview spots with the baseball thing etc, so a long time ago. the 2 songs will be the ones that were released, perhaps under pressure? don't have a link handy...
i'm quite sure jimmy said the single with jay z.

the interviews are a year old
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: One2free on May 28, 2011, 12:15:11 PM
So that actually convinces me what I was thinking. Based on the last interviews from The D.O.C., Sir Jinxx, Sam Sneed & Bud'da, & now this Snoop vid, I honestly think what Snoop's saying is the truth.
Despites Snoop last albums were not that good lol

Dre's last leaks were IMO wack becuz it seems he dont want to fuck with old friends & artists, he's trying to work out a new formula which obviously doesn't seem to "boping heads".

He's free to do the fuck he wants though
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Stan on May 28, 2011, 01:11:59 PM
I think at this point Dre has become delusional regarding the album.  A new type of phobia has been invented!  Seriously think about the facts
- Recording for 10 years +
- 1,000s of songs to choose from
- Supposed to be released every year and we fall for it like suckas
I think if he hasn't gotten it yet then he'll never get it.  The more songs he records, the harder it gets to choose from.  I think the more they record the worse at this stage ... Too much pressure!  Sometimes you can have too much choice.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: trajjic on May 28, 2011, 02:31:05 PM
I agree with Snoop on that but I also want to tell cats be careful with your music. I produced an album focus for dubsac records which I have seen a gang of people bootlegging the album online. http://onlydopestuff.blogspot.com/2009/02/chronic-side-crew-focus-1998-los.html  http://tktmacouillass.blogspot.com/2008/09/chronic-side-crew-focus-1998-los.html this is where somebody post the  album at. http://www.filestube.com/f/focus+chronic+side+crew and it's many more but I did copywrite the album though now.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: HighEyeCue on May 28, 2011, 03:08:11 PM
first DOC comes out and says this and now Snoop, they are both right and seem bitter about it at the same time
so you think snoop & the d.o.c. should carry the album?

I think DOC and Eminem should share the writing part of the album, and Dre the production side. Obviously this is not going to happen but I think it would be the best case scenario. Snoop could be featured on a couple of tracks.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: GangstaBoogy on May 28, 2011, 04:39:50 PM
Eminem is a horrible ghostwriter for dre! Did you hear that bullshit he gave him on"crack a bottle"? Eww
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: realtalk on May 28, 2011, 08:57:50 PM
I HOPE DRE DONT BRING SNOOP AROUND AFTER WHAT THIS LAST GARBAGE ALBUM HE PUT OUT LOL ..MAN SNOOP NEED 2 GET THE RIGHT PPL AROUND HIM HIS LAST FEW ALBUMS BEEN DOING BAD. 39K 1ST WEEK IS A BAD LOOK SNOOP DOGG.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: BANE on May 28, 2011, 11:49:08 PM
Realist shit Snoop has said in a long while. Don't need to write paragraphs about "my opinion" when Snoop said everything that needed to be said, point blank.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Sir Petey on May 28, 2011, 11:59:15 PM
Eminem is a horrible ghostwriter for dre! Did you hear that bullshit he gave him on"crack a bottle"? Eww

that was probably the best ive heard dre spit in like five years
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Dre-Day on May 29, 2011, 12:35:28 AM
first DOC comes out and says this and now Snoop, they are both right and seem bitter about it at the same time
so you think snoop & the d.o.c. should carry the album?

I think DOC and Eminem should share the writing part of the album, and Dre the production side. Obviously this is not going to happen but I think it would be the best case scenario. Snoop could be featured on a couple of tracks.
fair enough
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: HighEyeCue on May 29, 2011, 09:43:35 AM
first DOC comes out and says this and now Snoop, they are both right and seem bitter about it at the same time
so you think snoop & the d.o.c. should carry the album?

I think DOC and Eminem should share the writing part of the album, and Dre the production side. Obviously this is not going to happen but I think it would be the best case scenario. Snoop could be featured on a couple of tracks.
fair enough

don't get me wrong, Slim the Mobster is alright too :laugh:
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: BG Rapsodie on May 29, 2011, 10:17:39 AM
Eminem is a horrible ghostwriter for dre! Did you hear that bullshit he gave him on"crack a bottle"? Eww

In the 2001 era Em was ghostwriting the best lyrics Dre had ever spit. Why criticize one average verse when DOC and Hittman have written much worse for him?
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Dre-Day on May 29, 2011, 01:58:58 PM
first DOC comes out and says this and now Snoop, they are both right and seem bitter about it at the same time
so you think snoop & the d.o.c. should carry the album?

I think DOC and Eminem should share the writing part of the album, and Dre the production side. Obviously this is not going to happen but I think it would be the best case scenario. Snoop could be featured on a couple of tracks.
fair enough

don't get me wrong, Slim the Mobster is alright too :laugh:
haha, you want the grillz too don't you ;D
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: dubsmith_nz on May 29, 2011, 02:46:54 PM
Eminem is a horrible ghostwriter for dre! Did you hear that bullshit he gave him on"crack a bottle"? Eww

that was probably the best ive heard dre spit in like five years

For real that shit was straight
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: GangstaBoogy on May 29, 2011, 06:55:02 PM
Well if you guys like that bullshit then I hope you enjoy the rest of eminem and dr dre presents detox.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: BLUNTTYMECC on May 29, 2011, 06:58:06 PM
Well if you guys like that bullshit then I hope you enjoy the rest of eminem and dr dre presents detox.

does dre give you mad chills bro?
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: westside159 on May 29, 2011, 09:09:50 PM
Realist shit Snoop has said in a long while. Don't need to write paragraphs about "my opinion" when Snoop said everything that needed to be said, point blank.


PREACH !!!
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: BG Rapsodie on May 29, 2011, 09:51:55 PM
Well if you guys like that bullshit then I hope you enjoy the rest of eminem and dr dre presents detox.

That's how 2001 was so should be dope.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: OG Jaydc on May 30, 2011, 12:02:19 AM
Lmao who the fuck is snoop to say that? He would writing dre verses that were bitten from an oxiclean commercial
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: midwestryder on June 08, 2011, 10:47:53 PM
My opinion, Dre not going to like what Snoop said.  He said the truth which was saying that everything he's putting out is trash and surrounding himself with wack ass muthafuckas

everyone around Dre will then tell him that Snoop is wack, because they all look stupid right now

Doggumentary wasn't any good and it didn't sell.  If anything Snoop should follow Dre's example and quit putting out half ass effort of albums, just to have an album out.




what the fuck are you talking about youngster. first fuck sales.  two doggumentary was one of snoop's dopest albums in last 10 years. doggumentary was one of best west coast albums this year with wc's  & dj quiks . you have no raste & no idea what you are talking about . doggumentary was what a real west coast album is suppose to sound like dipshit..

Keep telling yourself whatever makes you feel better. Unfortunately you have to deal with the truth and the truth is that Snoop's album wasn't very good and its not just me. It is all of the other snoop fans that wouldn't waste their money on that garbage.  You are delusional if you think sales don't matter. Don't kid yourself, Snoop has hurt feelings because he doesn't sell anymore and he went from multi-platinum to not even going plastic.
no keep telling your ignorant closeminded dumbass self that because you area factly wrong . snoops new album was very good & one of his best in last 10 years but you would have no clue because you are young & have no taste at all . yes is it just you .dumbass . no main stream dickryders are only ones who cares about sales . so you delusional if you think you are right . i am older then you & that means i am right over you . . Unfortunately you have to deal with the truth you have not taste & what you think is good is wack & what you think is wack is good. so shut up because you by fact are wrong
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: midwestryder on June 08, 2011, 10:54:22 PM
Have you ever heard a 50 Cent song? I mean GRODT was dope but he has always used the same 20 rhymes so how the fuck would he be able to write somethin mindblowing/extreme dope and fitting for Detox that we have not already heard? .

Dre's flow/delivery on Kush was kinda fresh and it wouldnt have been if 50 wrote it. It would be: Good/hood, chedda/better, gun/run, nympho/nympho etc. etc.

boring ass shit  ;D


"Get Rich or Die Trying" is 50 Cent's worst album.... I REPEAT "Get Rich or Die Trying" is 50 Cent's WORST album.  Everything after that album (and some before) was way better than anything off of "Get Rich or Die Trying".  Just becuz you're not a fan of 50 doesn't mean people think he's wack.  Sure he doesn't have that same aura about him as before but that's becuz everybody knows he's got money out tha ass from everywhere and his whole thing before the Vitamin Water deal was "Get rich or die trying...".  Everything about "Kush" was weak (do u have a problem with my opinion).  


"Tha Massacre" was too long, "Curtis" was a little long and didn't have the right singles other than "I Get Money", and "Before I Self Destruct" wasn't put together the right way (he should've saved some of those mixtape tracks and replaced them with some of the less fulfilling tracks).  But then at tha same time he STILL put out all of that GOOD music in the same year around the same time so TECHNICALLY his shit wasn't weak.  You're too caught up in the fan-outrage nostalgia of 50 Cent instead of just listening to the music and taking it for what it's worth and what it iz.

youre obviously too fond of 50 to see/hear what he really does on tracks. and lmfao @ GRODT as his worst album. No point in discussin anythin with you if you feel that way.
no Hollywood Bilderberg is not . Hollywood Bilderberg is right & but you have no clue anyways. you have no idea what you are talking about at all Gamestarr. you too young & dumb to have any idea what you are talking about at all .plus you from in Denmark  & that take all your cred away. americans will always know better then you since it is our music not yours . you don't understand the sound or the culture because you are not from here
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Okka on June 09, 2011, 02:11:44 AM
Lmao who the fuck is snoop to say that? He would writing dre verses that were bitten from an oxiclean commercial

For real? What you talkin' about?
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Dre-Day on June 09, 2011, 02:16:17 AM
Lmao who the fuck is snoop to say that? He would writing dre verses that were bitten from an oxiclean commercial

For real? What you talkin' about?
sarcasm
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Gamestarr on June 09, 2011, 02:56:52 AM
Have you ever heard a 50 Cent song? I mean GRODT was dope but he has always used the same 20 rhymes so how the fuck would he be able to write somethin mindblowing/extreme dope and fitting for Detox that we have not already heard? .

Dre's flow/delivery on Kush was kinda fresh and it wouldnt have been if 50 wrote it. It would be: Good/hood, chedda/better, gun/run, nympho/nympho etc. etc.

boring ass shit  ;D


"Get Rich or Die Trying" is 50 Cent's worst album.... I REPEAT "Get Rich or Die Trying" is 50 Cent's WORST album.  Everything after that album (and some before) was way better than anything off of "Get Rich or Die Trying".  Just becuz you're not a fan of 50 doesn't mean people think he's wack.  Sure he doesn't have that same aura about him as before but that's becuz everybody knows he's got money out tha ass from everywhere and his whole thing before the Vitamin Water deal was "Get rich or die trying...".  Everything about "Kush" was weak (do u have a problem with my opinion).  


"Tha Massacre" was too long, "Curtis" was a little long and didn't have the right singles other than "I Get Money", and "Before I Self Destruct" wasn't put together the right way (he should've saved some of those mixtape tracks and replaced them with some of the less fulfilling tracks).  But then at tha same time he STILL put out all of that GOOD music in the same year around the same time so TECHNICALLY his shit wasn't weak.  You're too caught up in the fan-outrage nostalgia of 50 Cent instead of just listening to the music and taking it for what it's worth and what it iz.

youre obviously too fond of 50 to see/hear what he really does on tracks. and lmfao @ GRODT as his worst album. No point in discussin anythin with you if you feel that way.
no Hollywood Bilderberg is not . Hollywood Bilderberg is right & but you have no clue anyways. you have no idea what you are talking about at all Gamestarr. you too young & dumb to have any idea what you are talking about at all .plus you from in Denmark  & that take all your cred away. americans will always know better then you since it is our music not yours . you don't understand the sound or the culture because you are not from here

pure american ignorance
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: OG Jaydc on June 09, 2011, 07:02:44 PM
Lmao who the fuck is snoop to say that? He would writing dre verses that were bitten from an oxiclean commercial

For real? What you talkin' about?

It was sarcasm BUT snoop bit lines from Vince the Sham wow guy in that fucking fruit chopping device commercial and used them in a verse on his feature on California girls with Katy perry. That was just beyond pathetic and showed how far snoop has fallen
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: GangstaBoogy on June 09, 2011, 07:54:27 PM
Did I just read grodt was 50's WORST album? Geez some of you guys really love saying dumb shit just to be different.

If you wanna say power of a dollar / guess who's back is better? I can take that. But the massacre, curtis, and bisd? Fuck off man
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Sir Petey on June 09, 2011, 07:56:41 PM
some of you guys really love saying dumb shit just to be different.


Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: One2free on June 10, 2011, 04:50:00 AM
Honestly though, I never was a Dre fan until he hooked up with these guys/girls. and even still i was only a fan of those who was surronding him. even when he use to come to my house sometimes... cuz my aunt sang with him...even when he use to do shows in ********, i never was a fan. it's time to bring his ass home and fuck with those who made him a brand. and that's the people mentioned within this quote and my reply.[/b]

This

exactly what I was meaning some pages before
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: Eazy-Duz-It on June 10, 2011, 09:42:30 AM
Both Dre and Snoop have the wrong people in their environment...

Just sayin.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: midwestryder on June 17, 2011, 02:31:46 PM
Have you ever heard a 50 Cent song? I mean GRODT was dope but he has always used the same 20 rhymes so how the fuck would he be able to write somethin mindblowing/extreme dope and fitting for Detox that we have not already heard? .

Dre's flow/delivery on Kush was kinda fresh and it wouldnt have been if 50 wrote it. It would be: Good/hood, chedda/better, gun/run, nympho/nympho etc. etc.

boring ass shit  ;D


"Get Rich or Die Trying" is 50 Cent's worst album.... I REPEAT "Get Rich or Die Trying" is 50 Cent's WORST album.  Everything after that album (and some before) was way better than anything off of "Get Rich or Die Trying".  Just becuz you're not a fan of 50 doesn't mean people think he's wack.  Sure he doesn't have that same aura about him as before but that's becuz everybody knows he's got money out tha ass from everywhere and his whole thing before the Vitamin Water deal was "Get rich or die trying...".  Everything about "Kush" was weak (do u have a problem with my opinion).  


"Tha Massacre" was too long, "Curtis" was a little long and didn't have the right singles other than "I Get Money", and "Before I Self Destruct" wasn't put together the right way (he should've saved some of those mixtape tracks and replaced them with some of the less fulfilling tracks).  But then at tha same time he STILL put out all of that GOOD music in the same year around the same time so TECHNICALLY his shit wasn't weak.  You're too caught up in the fan-outrage nostalgia of 50 Cent instead of just listening to the music and taking it for what it's worth and what it iz.

youre obviously too fond of 50 to see/hear what he really does on tracks. and lmfao @ GRODT as his worst album. No point in discussin anythin with you if you feel that way.
no Hollywood Bilderberg is not . Hollywood Bilderberg is right & but you have no clue anyways. you have no idea what you are talking about at all Gamestarr. you too young & dumb to have any idea what you are talking about at all .plus you from in Denmark  & that take all your cred away. americans will always know better then you since it is our music not yours . you don't understand the sound or the culture because you are not from here

pure american ignorance
it is not ignorace at all . it is true fact americans know better about hip hop because hip hop is created in america & made famous by americans . top rappers in world are only americans & to become bigiin hip hop you have to get over in america or you are nobody . we live the lifes they talk about in the music unlike you. you would have no idea unless you live in america & that is fact .   everything i said is fact & that means you are wrong
so it pure foreign ignorance as normal .
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: shmosh on June 17, 2011, 03:44:05 PM
so do Americans know nothing about Rock (eg the Beatles), Punk (invented in the UK), Reggae (Jamaica), Drum n Bass (UK), Dubstep (UK) etc?
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: BG Rapsodie on June 17, 2011, 05:35:11 PM
so do Americans know nothing about Rock (eg the Beatles), Punk (invented in the UK), Reggae (Jamaica), Drum n Bass (UK), Dubstep (UK) etc?

Rock and Punk originated in the U.S. We could give a fuck about the rest. I'm certainly not going to be telling some Jamaican dude about Reggae.

Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: dubsmith_nz on June 17, 2011, 06:26:50 PM
so do Americans know nothing about Rock (eg the Beatles), Punk (invented in the UK), Reggae (Jamaica), Drum n Bass (UK), Dubstep (UK) etc?

Rock and Punk originated in the U.S. We could give a fuck about the rest. I'm certainly not going to be telling some Jamaican dude about Reggae.



The Ramones and the Sex Pistols were both pretty big in the development of Punk Rock, I don't think you can say it completely originated in the U.S. although I could be completely wrong
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on June 17, 2011, 06:28:57 PM
blah blah blah
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”
Post by: OG Jaydc on June 17, 2011, 07:14:21 PM
blah blah blah

That's exactly how people read all your posts