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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Deuce-Deuce on August 22, 2011, 10:53:29 AM
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This past weekend, Game announced that he was already working on the follow-up to The R.E.D. Album, due in stores tomorrow (August 23rd), with 1500 or Nothin' producer Mars. According to the beatsmith, the Compton, California native is taking a different approach with his fifth and final album for Interscope Records, explaining that the LP will be devoid of guest features and name-dropping in Game's rhymes.
"Me and Game was in the studio yesterday," Mars told MTV's Mixtape Daily. "We did two songs. That's coming along crazy. We're going to have no features: It's just him rapping. No name dropping, no little things people say is cliché about Game. It's just putting on the boxing gloves and going for what we know."
Mars, known for his previous production work with T.I. and Nelly, also serves as executive producer on R.E.D., an honor that he didn't see coming. He says that he was given the title because of "[Game] seeing that it wasn't about trying to get however many songs or just going up there and sending beats and just leave like other producers would. I just wanted to be there every day to make sure there's input," he continued. "Even if it was songs I didn't produce, I made sure I was vocal about it. He respected different things I would suggest."
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.16545/title.producer-mars-says-games-next-album-will-have-no-features-or-name-drops (http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.16545/title.producer-mars-says-games-next-album-will-have-no-features-or-name-drops)
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I'd be shocked if this wasn't his worst album.
However the production could be more on point.
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"no name dropping?"
lol good luck nikka
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LOL I guarantee he will name drop and will have plenty of features as well
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LOL I guarantee he will name drop and will have plenty of features as well
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Can't hate. This is exactly the kind of album I have felt Game needs to make. I hope it actually comes to fruition and that other artists mightt follow suit.
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I could see there bein no features but he'll find it hard not droppin names.
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LOL I guarantee he will name drop and will have plenty of features as well
Exactly. The label will tell him what to do, and Game will oblige or his album won't drop. Maybe for his sixth album but not his fifth...
Remember when Snoop was going to do an album with no features...
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that's just a fantasy. he'd be lucky to have another official album released to begin with.. if 50 is mean, he'll tell jimmy to lock the nigga game up
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I can see him doing without name dropping, but no features? Nah not gonna happen.
Lmao @ a Game thread with youknowwho being the first to reply
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Can't hate. This is exactly the kind of album I have felt Game needs to make. I hope it actually comes to fruition and that other artists mightt follow suit.
but not with Mars as a producer then. Beats come out dead.
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he puts everyones name in his mouth.......but no one makes songs mentioning him
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but not with Mars as a producer then. Beats come out dead.
I could care less who produces. It would be great to see Game just do an album where he's the one selling the album and relying on his own gifts as an artist. No big name producers, no guest features, and not using name-dropping. I don't know how things will pan out in the end but I'd be intruiged to hear what he came up with.
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but not with Mars as a producer then. Beats come out dead.
I could care less who produces. It would be great to see Game just do an album where he's the one selling the album and relying on his own gifts as an artist. No big name producers, no guest features, and not using name-dropping. I don't know how things will pan out in the end but I'd be intruiged to hear what he came up with.
I can see your point with the namedrops and features (at least some of them) but you don't want big time producers too? what's wrong with that? That's what every artist do, they get the best producers. I think you meant not the "right now" producers, but if you look through the album there's no "right now" producers there either. Don't see your point. Why shouldn't an artist in his position get the best producers whether their big or not? Ain't that what everybody does/want to do?
Yeah he got a few producers on his team but their def not on that level were they can produce a whole album full of quality beats. And then if he works with unknown producers people are gonna complain about the beats too.
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Bullshit.
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LOL I guarantee he will name drop and will have plenty of features as well
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remember the diary of compton?
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remember the diary of compton?
no, what was that?
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remember the diary of compton?
Yeah, he said that would be his fifth and Dre said he would need a good few years to complete it.
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remember the diary of compton?
;D
Diary Of Compton : The Mad chills album.
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"The DOC: The Diary Of Compton"
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh53RBs2484vT3N6sm
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I guarantee you this will include nonstop references to Compton, Guns, Bloods, Rims...Pretty much every Game cliche there is. LMAO @ you nerds getting excited.
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I can see your point with the namedrops and features (at least some of them) but you don't want big time producers too? what's wrong with that? That's what every artist do, they get the best producers. I think you meant not the "right now" producers, but if you look through the album there's no "right now" producers there either. Don't see your point. Why shouldn't an artist in his position get the best producers whether their big or not? Ain't that what everybody does/want to do?
Yeah he got a few producers on his team but their def not on that level were they can produce a whole album full of quality beats. And then if he works with unknown producers people are gonna complain about the beats too.
That's exactly my point. That's what every artist do. He's worked with every single A-list hot producer already. I'd like to see him challenge himself to go a little more personal with it. He's had access to great producers his whole career. Why not fall back and do something with some slept-on producer and take on a bigger role in the creative direction? If you're a fan of Game as a rapper or artist, it shouldn't matter who produces on them. We've had four albums worth of all-star guests and producers so why not him see what he can do without the Dr. Dres and Kanyes. Here's how I see it. Every fucking artist wants to be the next Pac but how many will go in that studio and do a "Makaveli" album, instead of "All Eyez On Me"?
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Sorry, it's not going to happen. Impossible.
After Game said that he would retire if Doctor's Advocate didn't go platinum its first week but didn't retire as it fell far short, I don't really believe anything he says.
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Every fucking artist wants to be the next Pac but how many will go in that studio and do a "Makaveli" album, instead of "All Eyez On Me"?
Preach!
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Man did Game fuck some of your sisters or somethin?
All this is is an article where Mars says Game's next album won't have any features and he won't namedrop and were somehow saying he can't compare to Pac, he needs to work with less talented producers, and this is going to be his worst album.
Good thing I'm a Game fan. Apparently when you don't like him it takes over your life. Good thing I can sleep at night without grunting over a rapper lmao
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i have hopes for this to be a good album
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i like the name-dropping, i think it's pretty tite and it makes Game "Game". as far as the features go i could care less even though i think there should atleast be a hook or two on there and a guest verse on a track or two. too many bloggers be gettin caught up in the sheep life, if his name dropping is that irritating then you have no life and you're gonna die early
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All this is is an article where Mars says Game's next album won't have any features and he won't namedrop and were somehow saying he can't compare to Pac, he needs to work with less talented producers, and this is going to be his worst album.
Nobody said anything close to that.
somehow saying he can't compare to Pac
What was actually said, at least by me, was actually complimentary in that regard. Not that he specifically couldn't compare to Pac but that if artists want to draw from Pac for inspiration, they could start with the work ethic, instead of the controversy. Since he's apparently doing so, I'm commending him for it. It is nowhere near an insult so you should probably relax a bit on that one.
he needs to work with less talented producers
The word is "less established". There are great producers out there who need that break. Game is at that point where he shouldn't need the person who makes his beats to be the selling point of his album. This is once again, not an insult. I think a lot of artists could benefit from this approach. What I liked about Pac's approach with his Death Row albums was he made "All Eyez On Me", which was this very commercial mainstream gangsta party double album but then he came back with this scaled-back and more introspective concept album when he did "Makaveli". I'm using the Pac example because it's the best one I can think of. All Eyez has numerous songs that where already being constructed before he showed up and were given to him because he joined the team. The same can be true of Game with "Documentary". This isn't a diss to either. It's just how it goes. That's not to say Pac didn't bring great energy and work to "California Love" or Game to "Hate It or Love It" but these were hit records before either touched the mic. Now, Pac for his part, understood all that was sacrficied in his favor to create that project so with "Makaveli", he took on the role of overseeing it. Instead of the high-profile features, he took less-established guys like Bad Azz and the Outlawz and employed the producing talents of people like Hurt Em' Badd and Big D.
I don't see why it is so insulting to suggest that it would be interesting to hear a Game album where his lyrics and subject matter are the featured attraction. I've bought every Scarface album since "The Fix" and I couldn't name you one person who produced a single song on any of them yet I still bump the fuck out of them right now. Same for a lot of Nas' albums. I think Cube's best work was when all you cared about was Cube rapping. Thing is today's artists crate a lot of overblown P.R. about how they changed the game or contributed when in reality, they're all mostly just riding a wave. Their music is entertaining but it's not groundbreaking. For any solo artist to say, "Hey. Fuck it. I'm doing a solo album with no famous guest spots or superstar producers". That's ballsy. It's banking on the idea that your fans actually want to listen to your music and your concepts, instead of some big name guy doing your beats. It's attempting to initate a creative change in an industry that is stuck in a stale pattern. It's a hard sell but if it works, that's true bragging rights. It's something you can put your name on and call your own. If you're a true Game fan and you believe in him being that guy on the West, why wouldn't you want him to be the one to hang his hat on this? What is the problem? What is the downside?
Good thing I'm a Game fan. Apparently when you don't like him it takes over your life. Good thing I can sleep at night without grunting over a rapper lmao
Yeah, good thing. You're being a fan hasn't made you the least bit overly-sensitive or defensive when it comes to others who might have slightly conflicting opinions on him. ;D
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He hates on Jay Z , but then he copies his " no features " idea from the Black Album......
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He hates on Jay Z , but then he copies his " no features " idea from the Black Album......
Jay's enitial concept for The Black Album was a different track with a different established producer. Game ain't doing that. Not having features isn't really something you can qualify as stealing an idea. It's taking a basic approach to something. You can have five artists all do and the results will vary depending on their individual artistic merits. That's why I'd be intruiged to see something like this catch on in hip-hop because the art form needs it.
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Groupies like GangstaBoogy give Game fans a bad name
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LMAO @ this thread. When he first came out and there were a few people talking about the name dropping, everyone was saying, "Naw that's his style. THat's what makes Game "Game." Now, everyone is complaining that he name drops too much. So when there is word that he won't name drop on his next album, people are complaining that it will be his worst album and that it will be impossible for him to do. The expression "Damned if you do, Damned if you don't" comes to mind with some people on this board.
I think if he can make songs like "Monsters In My Head", Rough", "Lost", etc.... he will have no problem doing an album w/o name dropping and maybe a few features doing the hooks for him.
As far as producers go, I think he needs to pick one or two producers and have them work on the whole album. A Cool and Dre/Kanye album would be dope. Or a 1500 or Nothin/Kanye collaboration would be nice. The only problem with having 1500 or Nothin doing the production is that they don't mix down the tracks properly. Making the songs sound lifeless.
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Groupie? Lol far from it
I like his music so I read Game related threads. Makes sense
You don't like his music yet you pop up in every Game discussion to bitch about him and his fans. Make sense to you?
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You don't like his music
Wrong.
Groupie? Lol far from it
Really? You're in every thread defending Game against his own fans. That's groupie status. Groupies like you don't even like artists for their music. Instead you pick the artist as some character or hero to ride for. It could've been Game, it could've been someone else. But now you feel like you're on Game's "team" and its your obligation to ride for him against anyone else. Other artists, people who don't like him, or even fans of his who have a different opinion than you. Game is a multi-platinum selling artist who is doing quite well, regardless of whether his future albums sell or are well-received. There is zero point to dissing people with opinions on his behalf. You're not doing him any favors, you're not going to change anyone's opinion and Game will never know or care that you're taking it upon yourself to "ride" for him. If he did know, he'd probably laugh at you. As far as who's a fan, someone like me has a better appreciation for the good music that Game puts out than someone like you ever will. Because I judge artists on the quality of their music, and don't spend my time "riding" for celebrities against every little opinion someone else has.
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Can you post something of you saying something negative about him? lol.
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Can you post something of you saying something negative about him? lol.
Well, he accidentally did by saying something about no self-respecting black man would ever endorse a white person using the N-word against another black male. Not realizing Game did it once before on one of his G-Unot mixtape tracks. Ironically, the statement was meant to defend Game for dissing somebody else.
I don't know what's up with Boogy. He's been particularly emotional when it comes to Game lately. I get being a fan but he's putting people on blast as "haters" for having constructive observations like it's not okay to do that anymore.
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Dude sits here & co-signs everything that h2k4 & Enigma says who are almost as bad as him & then just tells everyone who disses Game that they're blindly hating.
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It's a little shocking is all. You've got established forums (SOHH, etc) that don't like Westcoast or Game for that matter who are calling this album the best of the year, saying he came correct, shocked everyone, are gonna purchase the album, etc. I mean, really really good reviews of his album.
And then you have this forum that should be standing up proud for an artist that has continuously repped this coast and had all the darts thrown at him possible, yet he still continues to drop quality (free quality at that) and maintain his relevance in the mainstream whenever his album is about to drop. The same cannot be said for most artists, let alone an artist kicked to the curb by the biggest machine in hip-hop backing him.
I feel that this is one of the bigger reasons the Westcoast hasn't risen to relevance in the 2000's - we ourselves hold the coast back. Anyone that's a little different from the norm from the 90's is neglected and/or dissed, but this forum loves people like Nipsey Hussle and Jay Rock. Now I know a lot of you aren't even from California or America for that matter - but nonetheless you're on a forum where Westcoast hip-hop is the major topic of discussion.
Mark my words - those 2 artists will NEVER achieve the same status Game has or Kendrick Lamar is on the verge of achieving. They aren't afraid to step outside of the box and try something different.
If someone thinks something is wack and criticize constructively, so be it. But the endless hating just displays ignorance. It also shows how little time people have on their hands.
I've been on this forum for 10 years - look at my post count, and then look at the post count of some of you people who have only been here for 2-3 years. That's the shit I'm talking about, Chamillitary. Spending all day of your life talking shit. Don't think I don't notice you mentioning me in your posts - I've only chimed in on Game in maybe 10-15 total posts in my entire existence on this forum, bub. You do that in a matter of 2 hours.
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wait...you think Game steps outside the box anymore so than someone like Jay Rock or Nipsey Hussle?
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just listen to the fucking music stop being hoes and ovver analyzing bullshit
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wait...you think Game steps outside the box anymore so than someone like Jay Rock or Nipsey Hussle?
Without a doubt. Nipsey would never make a song with Ne-Yo, DJ Premier, Raheem DeVaugan, Common, etc. I've said it before - he may rep the blood stuff and what not, but his image and substance goes far beyond being some gangsta. He actually makes songs with messages. Nipsey could never make a song like "The Kill." It's the same reason why Nas, Wayne, Kanye, Rick Ross, Doug E Fresh, KRS-One, Jadakiss, etc have continuously fucked with this dude over the years. The same will never be said for Jay Rock or Nipsey, they just don't have enough universal appeal.
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I dont know about everyone elses opinions but I think that this could be a cool project to do. Having Mars work on it doesnt bother me. I thought Mars did a great job on RED and for them to keep this little chemistry going would be great. I think having no features plays into several reasons though. Its logical if you think about it. He owes Interscope one more album and he wants to get it done quickly and without delay. So this way he cuts out features which means cutting down on budget and on label politics. It would without a doubt make it easier to put out the album. Im not into over analyzing music anymore. These days if it bumps im happy and the flows are good then I dont have complaints.
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I can see your point with the namedrops and features (at least some of them) but you don't want big time producers too? what's wrong with that? That's what every artist do, they get the best producers. I think you meant not the "right now" producers, but if you look through the album there's no "right now" producers there either. Don't see your point. Why shouldn't an artist in his position get the best producers whether their big or not? Ain't that what everybody does/want to do?
Yeah he got a few producers on his team but their def not on that level were they can produce a whole album full of quality beats. And then if he works with unknown producers people are gonna complain about the beats too.
That's exactly my point. That's what every artist do. He's worked with every single A-list hot producer already. I'd like to see him challenge himself to go a little more personal with it. He's had access to great producers his whole career. Why not fall back and do something with some slept-on producer and take on a bigger role in the creative direction? If you're a fan of Game as a rapper or artist, it shouldn't matter who produces on them. We've had four albums worth of all-star guests and producers so why not him see what he can do without the Dr. Dres and Kanyes. Here's how I see it. Every fucking artist wants to be the next Pac but how many will go in that studio and do a "Makaveli" album, instead of "All Eyez On Me"?
Right but only thing is when 2pac did Makaveli he was the biggest rapper on the biggest label coming off of All Eyez On Me so he had way more freedom to do it. It's like saying why didn't he do the Makaveli album prior to AEOM? Obviously because he needed to sorta "revamp" his career he had been locked up mixed with all the other troubles plus he was on Death Row, so check how many features he had on that album (Snoop, DPG, Meth, Red, Dre etc) and how many hot producers he worked with (Quik, Dre, Daz etc). I can see your point but don't see how it would work in today's climate it's not like it's 2005 and Game has just gone 5x plat were he can do an album like that.
I mean the reason why artists do collabos other than wanting to work with someone is for business reasons. It it was that easy i'm sure alot of mainstream artists would've tried it by now but alot of them still haven't.
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Groupie? Lol far from it
if so, why do you get mad about what others say about game
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Groupie? Lol far from it
if so, why do you get mad about what others say about game
No disrespect to you but if he's a Game stan then your a Dre stan so don't be so quick to call anyone else out.
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just listen to the fucking music stop being hoes and ovver analyzing bullshit
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LMFAO, Game "steps out of the box" by making an album with 15 of the biggest names in Hip Hop, with some of the most well known producers & stealing all their flows & styles of their respective features. This is after naming his album in spite of Jay-Z's "Black" album (which somehow, you groupies still try to deny).
Yeah, Game is a real trend setter & clearly one of the most original.
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wait...you think Game steps outside the box anymore so than someone like Jay Rock or Nipsey Hussle?
Without a doubt. Nipsey would never make a song with Ne-Yo, DJ Premier, Raheem DeVaugan, Common, etc. I've said it before - he may rep the blood stuff and what not, but his image and substance goes far beyond being some gangsta. He actually makes songs with messages. Nipsey could never make a song like "The Kill." It's the same reason why Nas, Wayne, Kanye, Rick Ross, Doug E Fresh, KRS-One, Jadakiss, etc have continuously fucked with this dude over the years. The same will never be said for Jay Rock or Nipsey, they just don't have enough universal appeal.
Is this a joke post? Game is a mainstream rapper. Hence he can make songs with big names. Other mainstream artists work with him because he has built those connections off his fame and because he has the money to shell out for them. I never thought I'd see the day someone would say putting Ne-Yo on a song is thinking outside the box.
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Groupie? Lol far from it
if so, why do you get mad about what others say about game
No disrespect to you but if he's a Game stan then your a Dre stan so don't be so quick to call anyone else out.
no.
i dont ride for dre like he does for game
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Groupie? Lol far from it
if so, why do you get mad about what others say about game
No disrespect to you but if he's a Game stan then your a Dre stan so don't be so quick to call anyone else out.
no.
i dont ride for dre like he does for game
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Right but only thing is when 2pac did Makaveli he was the biggest rapper on the biggest label coming off of All Eyez On Me so he had way more freedom to do it. It's like saying why didn't he do the Makaveli album prior to AEOM? Obviously because he needed to sorta "revamp" his career he had been locked up mixed with all the other troubles plus he was on Death Row, so check how many features he had on that album (Snoop, DPG, Meth, Red, Dre etc) and how many hot producers he worked with (Quik, Dre, Daz etc). I can see your point but don't see how it would work in today's climate it's not like it's 2005 and Game has just gone 5x plat were he can do an album like that.
I mean the reason why artists do collabos other than wanting to work with someone is for business reasons. It it was that easy i'm sure alot of mainstream artists would've tried it by now but alot of them still haven't.
I never suggested that it would be an easy thing. I'm saying it is something I would like to see a few artists try. And truthfully, don't think a lot of mainstream artists would try it if they could because there's a risk behind it. I think artists like these big collabos on their albums because they get to work with huge stars and it helps sell their project. I think it was probably about three years ago when I started noticing that all these mainstream albums have basically the same artists on them. Even in the 90's when you had albums like Chronic and Doggystyle, a lot of the collabo work went to guys on the label.
The problem that labels aren't seeing or at least not understanding is collaborations are over-saturated. In order to empahsize their importance again, they could stand to scale it back so they mean something again.
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Groupie? Lol far from it
if so, why do you get mad about what others say about game
No disrespect to you but if he's a Game stan then your a Dre stan so don't be so quick to call anyone else out.
no.
i dont ride for dre like he does for game
of course cuz that's coming from yourself. don't take it as disrespect though not trying to start an e-beef and shit lol.
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Right but only thing is when 2pac did Makaveli he was the biggest rapper on the biggest label coming off of All Eyez On Me so he had way more freedom to do it. It's like saying why didn't he do the Makaveli album prior to AEOM? Obviously because he needed to sorta "revamp" his career he had been locked up mixed with all the other troubles plus he was on Death Row, so check how many features he had on that album (Snoop, DPG, Meth, Red, Dre etc) and how many hot producers he worked with (Quik, Dre, Daz etc). I can see your point but don't see how it would work in today's climate it's not like it's 2005 and Game has just gone 5x plat were he can do an album like that.
I mean the reason why artists do collabos other than wanting to work with someone is for business reasons. It it was that easy i'm sure alot of mainstream artists would've tried it by now but alot of them still haven't.
I never suggested that it would be an easy thing. I'm saying it is something I would like to see a few artists try. And truthfully, don't think a lot of mainstream artists would try it if they could because there's a risk behind it. I think artists like these big collabos on their albums because they get to work with huge stars and it helps sell their project. I think it was probably about three years ago when I started noticing that all these mainstream albums have basically the same artists on them. Even in the 90's when you had albums like Chronic and Doggystyle, a lot of the collabo work went to guys on the label.
The problem that labels aren't seeing or at least not understanding is collaborations are over-saturated. In order to empahsize their importance again, they could stand to scale it back so they mean something again.
Yeah of course i'd love to see that too but i don't see that happening tbh. I'd rather take a Game album with little to no (random) namedrops than a feature-free album from him. I doubt any of what Mars said is true though i think it's a lil ploy to maybe get a few people interested (fans and haters who'll check it out to see if Mars really was right or not).
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Game should take notes from Chino XL on how to namedrop.
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wait...you think Game steps outside the box anymore so than someone like Jay Rock or Nipsey Hussle?
Without a doubt. Nipsey would never make a song with Ne-Yo, DJ Premier, Raheem DeVaugan, Common, etc. I've said it before - he may rep the blood stuff and what not, but his image and substance goes far beyond being some gangsta. He actually makes songs with messages. Nipsey could never make a song like "The Kill." It's the same reason why Nas, Wayne, Kanye, Rick Ross, Doug E Fresh, KRS-One, Jadakiss, etc have continuously fucked with this dude over the years. The same will never be said for Jay Rock or Nipsey, they just don't have enough universal appeal.
Is this a joke post? Game is a mainstream rapper. Hence he can make songs with big names. Other mainstream artists work with him because he has built those connections off his fame and because he has the money to shell out for them. I never thought I'd see the day someone would say putting Ne-Yo on a song is thinking outside the box.
For a Westcoast rapper that you're calling a typical "gangsta rapper," yeah, I feel that recording with someone like Ne-Yo is stepping outside of the box from the norm of what someone like Jay Rock or Nipsey would do.
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wait...you think Game steps outside the box anymore so than someone like Jay Rock or Nipsey Hussle?
Without a doubt. Nipsey would never make a song with Ne-Yo, DJ Premier, Raheem DeVaugan, Common, etc. I've said it before - he may rep the blood stuff and what not, but his image and substance goes far beyond being some gangsta. He actually makes songs with messages. Nipsey could never make a song like "The Kill." It's the same reason why Nas, Wayne, Kanye, Rick Ross, Doug E Fresh, KRS-One, Jadakiss, etc have continuously fucked with this dude over the years. The same will never be said for Jay Rock or Nipsey, they just don't have enough universal appeal.
Is this a joke post? Game is a mainstream rapper. Hence he can make songs with big names. Other mainstream artists work with him because he has built those connections off his fame and because he has the money to shell out for them. I never thought I'd see the day someone would say putting Ne-Yo on a song is thinking outside the box.
For a Westcoast rapper that you're calling a typical "gangsta rapper," yeah, I feel that recording with someone like Ne-Yo is stepping outside of the box from the norm of what someone like Jay Rock or Nipsey would do.
You mean as far as selling out? Hardcore gangsta rappers tend to not make songs with pop singers because its not their style. Someone trying to commercialize their shit and make soft records (ie. 50, Ja Rule) would. Lmao at thinking that going pop is stepping outside the box.
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doubt that'll happen. im just thinking he'll cut the name dropping in half at least. to say that he wont name drop at all, is saying an awful lot. the no features is a bit ridiculous as well, since game is not really a "hook type" artist. im sure he'll have a few features in there
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LMFAO, Game "steps out of the box" by making an album with 15 of the biggest names in Hip Hop, with some of the most well known producers & stealing all their flows & styles of their respective features. This is after naming his album in spite of Jay-Z's "Black" album (which somehow, you groupies still try to deny).
Yeah, Game is a real trend setter & clearly one of the most original.
Ok even if he got that from jay...jay got his from someone else too...right now ur speculating that he stole the idea...that's what u think it isn't a fact
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Dude sits here & co-signs everything that h2k4 & Enigma says who are almost as bad as him & then just tells everyone who disses Game that they're blindly hating.
Haha :wavey:. There's a difference between having a difference of opinion, and blatantly hating on someone. Guess which category you fall into (hint:It's not the former).
As far as Game naming his album after Jay-Z, that could be possible but Jay-Z wasn't the first to do that:
Released in 1993, also known as "The Black Album".
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I really hope this happens but if we just got no name dropping and a few features the I would consider that a win.
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Groupie? Lol far from it
if so, why do you get mad about what others say about game
No disrespect to you but if he's a Game stan then your a Dre stan so don't be so quick to call anyone else out.
no.
i dont ride for dre like he does for game
of course cuz that's coming from yourself. don't take it as disrespect though not trying to start an e-beef and shit lol.
none taken.
i'm just curious why you think im a stan. where are my stan quotes?
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No name dropping or features on the songs, but I bet he'll more than make up for it with an album title along the lines of "The Illist 'prescription' without reasonable doubt" with song titles like "The Game Watcher", "Nuttin But a Compton Thing", California State of mind and so on and so on
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Some people got too much time on their hands.
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they do it for living...
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they do it for living...
Thats even worse.
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they do it for living...
Thats even worse.
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lmfao
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No, h2k4, you don't get it. You're a stan. He dropped an average album, at best & you're fronting like he produced real quality music.
If I was blatantly hating I'd say "Wow, this is complete garbage, every single fucking song sucks, he's ass, his flow sucks, his delivery sucks, this sucks, he sucks". You just want to label me a hater because it belittles my much less biased opinion of Game than yours. You're probably one of those guys who thought this song (below) was "pretty fucking tight" when it dropped.
http://www.youtube.com/v/faxllhT6UBE
He physically will not disappoint you.
How can I be a hater when I say I like "The City", "Born In The Trap", " Ricky" & "Martians Vs. Goblins" & said he has great vocals & a pretty dope delivery. Haters just don't say things like that. A real hater is someone who just completely hates on every aspect of an artist. Like Lil' Wayne, when people say he's just complete ass from top to bottom; not a positive aspect to his game. That's hating. Only a stan would refuse to see the difference out of reacting like he has sand in his vagina to unbiased opinions of Game, exposing his major flaws.
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No, h2k4, you don't get it. You're a stan. He dropped an average album, at best & you're fronting like he produced real quality music.
If I was blatantly hating I'd say "Wow, this is complete garbage, every single fucking song sucks, he's ass, his flow sucks, his delivery sucks, this sucks, he sucks". You just want to label me a hater because it belittles my much less biased opinion of Game than yours. You're probably one of those guys who thought this song (below) was "pretty fucking tight" when it dropped.
http://www.youtube.com/v/faxllhT6UBE
He physically will not disappoint you.
How can I be a hater when I say I like "The City", "Born In The Trap", " Ricky" & "Martians Vs. Goblins" & said he has great vocals & a pretty dope delivery. Haters just don't say things like that. A real hater is someone who just completely hates on every aspect of an artist. Like Lil' Wayne, when people say he's just complete ass from top to bottom; not a positive aspect to his game. That's hating. Only a stan would refuse to see the difference out of reacting like he has sand in his vagina to unbiased opinions of Game, exposing his major flaws.
Aight cool thnx for the opinion now we know how you feel. Sorry you feel disappointed.
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^Haaaaaaaaa. You can feel the anger in the air. 8)
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^Haaaaaaaaa. You can feel the anger in the air. 8)
Wow i was honestly being serious. But you kinda proving that you're a troll right now. Was far from being mad i was being serious.
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^Haaaaaaaaa. You can feel the anger in the air. 8)
Wow i was honestly being serious. But you kinda proving that you're a troll right now. Was far from being mad i was being serious.
You sounded like you were being a smartass & telling me to shutup because you couldn't handel the truth either.
Hard to read emotion via text.
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^Haaaaaaaaa. You can feel the anger in the air. 8)
Wow i was honestly being serious. But you kinda proving that you're a troll right now. Was far from being mad i was being serious.
You sounded like you were being a smartass & telling me to shutup because you couldn't handel the truth either.
Hard to read emotion via text.
Hard to read emotion via text yet you claimed i was mad? LOL nah it's all good but i wasn't being a smartass.
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^Haaaaaaaaa. You can feel the anger in the air. 8)
Wow i was honestly being serious. But you kinda proving that you're a troll right now. Was far from being mad i was being serious.
You sounded like you were being a smartass & telling me to shutup because you couldn't handel the truth either.
Hard to read emotion via text.
Hard to read emotion via text yet you claimed i was mad? LOL nah it's all good but i wasn't being a smartass.
& I was wrong, right? Hence it clearly being hard to read emotion via text...
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No, h2k4, you don't get it. You're a stan. He dropped an average album, at best & you're fronting like he produced real quality music.
If I was blatantly hating I'd say "Wow, this is complete garbage, every single fucking song sucks, he's ass, his flow sucks, his delivery sucks, this sucks, he sucks". You just want to label me a hater because it belittles my much less biased opinion of Game than yours. You're probably one of those guys who thought this song (below) was "pretty fucking tight" when it dropped.
http://www.youtube.com/v/faxllhT6UBE
He physically will not disappoint you.
How can I be a hater when I say I like "The City", "Born In The Trap", " Ricky" & "Martians Vs. Goblins" & said he has great vocals & a pretty dope delivery. Haters just don't say things like that. A real hater is someone who just completely hates on every aspect of an artist. Like Lil' Wayne, when people say he's just complete ass from top to bottom; not a positive aspect to his game. That's hating. Only a stan would refuse to see the difference out of reacting like he has sand in his vagina to unbiased opinions of Game, exposing his major flaws.
I haven't even mentioned one word about his album so where did I say he produced quality music. Face it man, every Game thread you bash dude, and then say the smallest positive about him so you're not labeled a "hater". Your opinions flip flop almost all of the time. It's actually quite sad. Why is it difficult for you to have an opinion independent of others? Or better yet, why not have an intellectual conversation where you don't bash just for the sake of bashing.
And if you want to know, that song you posted is terrible.
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If I'm "constantly hating", how can my opinion "flip-flop"? That's highly contradicting if you're saying I'm always taking shit about his music.
I bash him when bashing is deserved. & what are you saying? You saying that he didn't give you quality music on RED? If that's the case, then say that. Because you sound like you're defending him like he just dropped a fantastic album that doesn't deserve to be criticized negatively at all lol.
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If I'm "constantly hating", how can my opinion "flip-flop"? That's highly contradicting if you're saying I'm always taking shit about his music.
I bash him when bashing is deserved. & what are you saying? You saying that he didn't give you quality music on RED? If that's the case, then say that. Because you sound like you're defending him like he just dropped a fantastic album that doesn't deserve to be criticized negatively at all lol.
I just gave the album a spin today. I want to give it a few more spins before I actually have an opinion on it.
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If I'm "constantly hating", how can my opinion "flip-flop"? That's highly contradicting if you're saying I'm always taking shit about his music.
I bash him when bashing is deserved. & what are you saying? You saying that he didn't give you quality music on RED? If that's the case, then say that. Because you sound like you're defending him like he just dropped a fantastic album that doesn't deserve to be criticized negatively at all lol.
I just gave the album a spin today. I want to give it a few more spins before I actually have an opinion on it.
Oh, no doubt.
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LOL at cham callin anybody a stan.
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LOL at cham callin anybody a stan.
Why's that?
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Because goin by your 'he physically wont disappoint you' comment, the way you talk about WTT could be said to be stanish.
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Seriously Cham for someone who doesn't like Game, you probably have created and posted in more Game threads than people who do like him, shit is kind of ridiculous. Drop your 2 cents and move on, too much time on the internet homie.
On topic though, I don't see this idea working for Game, he had what, 2 hooks on the R.E.D. album that he performed himself? Hooks aren't his strong point, which he knows, so unless he's gonna take some serious lessons in hook writing I just don't see him pulling it off.
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Because goin by your 'he physically wont disappoint you' comment, the way you talk about WTT could be said to be stanish.
Jay-Z has disappointed me throughout his career. Kanye actually hasn't, I can't lie. All his rap albums are dope.
Together, they just made a great album. No filler. No rap features. Dope production. & all the criticism it gets outside of some people who aren't big on the beats, just say "They rap about how great they are". I don't hear it more so than I do on any other rap album by anyone else. I don't feel it's done enough on here for that to be the big "well, that's why I can't listen to this album".
Plus, most of my outrageous "classic" comments are me just bullshitting. So if someone came through & gave actual feedback on why they think the album is just really average or sub-par, I wouldn't be like these guys & stamp "hater" tags on everyone.
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Seriously Cham for someone who doesn't like Game, you probably have created and posted in more Game threads than people who do like him, shit is kind of ridiculous. Drop your 2 cents and move on, too much time on the internet homie.
lol, Game has forty-five threads about him weekly, it's hard not to be involved in them.
& I do like Game, if I didn't, I'd say his first two albums were overrated. They're really good. Two of the best albums in the last decade. It's when Game is bad, he's gotta hear it. I don't get that with these forums. It's like you always wanna hear positive things. If we all sat here & praised everything everyone did, that would get boring fast.
You guys should thank me. If there weren't people like me, every thread would get like 16 replies of "good shit, love it".
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^ I still don't see where you got the idea that LAX is better than RED.... LAX was filled with some good/average game songs. Doesn't have certified dope tracks like this one. To me anyhow. His lyrics are way better, people complain about the name dropping but each album he's name dropped less every time. Except besides maybe TD=DA. He doesnt name drop on this one like he did on LAX
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^ I still don't see where you got the idea that LAX is better than RED.... LAX was filled with some good/average game songs. Doesn't have certified dope tracks like this one. To me anyhow. His lyrics are way better, people complain about the name dropping but each album he's name dropped less every time. Except besides maybe TD=DA. He doesnt name drop on this one like he did on LAX
LAX had better, complete sounding songs. Sure he had feature after feature, but it was Raekwon, Common, Ice Cube & Nas lol. Not Drake, Rick Ross, Jeezy, Chris Brown & Tyler, The Creator.
"LAX Files", "State Of Emergency", "Bulletproof Diaries", "House Of Pain", "Let Us Live", "Angel", "Never Can Say Goodbye" & "Letter To The King" already makes LAX a better album. Sure, they didn't have all the replay value in the World, but neither does any song on RED. "The City", "Ricky" & "Born In Tha Trap" are on par with the LAX songs I just mentioned, but the rest of the album is a major dropoff to those three RED songs.
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Yall argue the one thing none of you have control over. Opinions lol. FYI it's ok for someone to have a difference of opinion. Some of yall need to stop catching feelings for real.
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^ I still don't see where you got the idea that LAX is better than RED.... LAX was filled with some good/average game songs. Doesn't have certified dope tracks like this one. To me anyhow. His lyrics are way better, people complain about the name dropping but each album he's name dropped less every time. Except besides maybe TD=DA. He doesnt name drop on this one like he did on LAX
If i had to decide right now, I'd say LAX>R.E.D. Just listened to the album today and I'm not that impressed with what the label decided to go with as the final product. The album is sort of all over the place. But that is just after 1 spin.
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i just didnt like the track with mario and wale, sure it goes in a different direction. I can still feel some of the softer beats. Thats interscope for you, I'm all for his move to cash money since he'll have more freedom.
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i just didnt like the track with mario and wale, sure it goes in a different direction. I can still feel some of the softer beats. Thats interscope for you, I'm all for his move to cash money since he'll have more freedom.
I agree. I've only listened to it a couple of times, so maybe my mind will change. At the moment, not feeling "Good Girls Go Bad", "Paramedics", "Hello", "Mama Knows". The Dr. Dre skits are useless on this album. I think if they were used on an album like DA, where the songs are a little more raw, it would've worked perfectly.
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On topic though, I don't see this idea working for Game, he had what, 2 hooks on the R.E.D. album that he performed himself? Hooks aren't his strong point, which he knows, so unless he's gonna take some serious lessons in hook writing I just don't see him pulling it off.
But you can get other people for the hooks. It doesn't have to be Rhiana or Frank Ocean. There's plenty of ways to get an effective chorus.
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On topic though, I don't see this idea working for Game, he had what, 2 hooks on the R.E.D. album that he performed himself? Hooks aren't his strong point, which he knows, so unless he's gonna take some serious lessons in hook writing I just don't see him pulling it off.
But you can get other people for the hooks. It doesn't have to be Rhiana or Frank Ocean. There's plenty of ways to get an effective chorus.
Like on LAX he used Chrisette Michele, Latoya Williams & Keyshia Cole.
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Nah, man. I mean think about hip-hop before everyone paid attention to all that shit. I mean, did Snoop sing the chorus on "Gin & Juice"? Yet that still qualifies as a solo song in the sense of what we'd want Game to do.
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On topic though, I don't see this idea working for Game, he had what, 2 hooks on the R.E.D. album that he performed himself? Hooks aren't his strong point, which he knows, so unless he's gonna take some serious lessons in hook writing I just don't see him pulling it off.
But you can get other people for the hooks. It doesn't have to be Rhiana or Frank Ocean. There's plenty of ways to get an effective chorus.
Has game even worked with those two before? What random names to bring up.
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I'm just saying that not every chorus has to be done by a "name". You can just get somebody to create the right sound for you.
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I'm just saying that not every chorus has to be done by a "name". You can just get somebody to create the right sound for you.
Just cos its not a name though doesn't mean it's not a feature. Mars didn't say "no big name features" he just said "no features. Game needs features for his hooks, that's pretty much a facr
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Hello and all the way gone has grown on me...