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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Lunatic on September 19, 2011, 09:13:36 PM
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1. Intro
2. Dollar and a Dream III
3. Can't Get Enough (feat. Trey Songz)
4. Lights Please
5. Interlude
6. Sideline Story
7. Mr. Nice Watch (feat. Jay-Z)
8. Cole World
9. In the Morning (feat. Drake)
10. Lost Ones
11. Nobody's Perfect (feat. Missy Elliot)
12. Never Told
13. Rise & Shine
14. God's Gift
15. Breakdown
BONUS TRACKS:
16. Work Out
17. Nothing Lasts Forever
18. Daddy's Little Girl
It's leaked bitches
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listening to it now and so far this is great music!
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I'm gonna hold off listening until I have the physical CD in my hands.
Ya'll try and DL that shit while you can, every time my eye catches a link I'll make it go down within hours....
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So, it's finally here. Looking forward to listening.
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I'm gonna hold off listening until I have the physical CD in my hands.
Ya'll try and DL that shit while you can, every time my eye catches a link I'll make it go down within hours....
lol
yeah im sure the majors need all the money they can get on this release...... u do realise people that dont pay for music arent just going to go and buy the album because some sad ass nerd is reporting links. we are just going to go and find it somewhere else. you really got nothing better to do with your time? really think you are making a difference? i look forward to hearing you response to this.
e: i can understand if it was some independant label but its fucking rocnation and columbia hahaha.
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yeah im sure the majors need all the money they can get on this release...... u do realise people that dont pay for music arent just going to go and buy the album because some sad ass nerd is reporting links. we are just going to go and find it somewhere else. you really got nothing better to do with your time? really think you are making a difference? i look forward to hearing you response to this.
Yeah, I know that. Doesn't mean I can't piss people off by making the leak harder to find than the Holy Grail... lol
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Looking forward to this 8)
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PM please
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Nice album with a cohesive sound , it flows very well ... I only skip tracks 7 and 9 after a 1st listen , not a big fan of the track with Missy (she did a good job on it though) either
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gonna check this out today, hopefully its not as disappointing as some of the random tracks ive heard from him recently
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:sleep:
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Phenomenal. Maybe 2-3 tracks I'm not feeling. Will give full review later.
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listening to it now and so far this is great music!
8) Yeah I'm 11 12 Tracks In & Ain't Skipped A Track Yet. I'm Gunna Have To Purchase This One.
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Can't wait for a better version to leak as well. The one I got is 128.
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Ya'll try and DL that shit while you can, every time my eye catches a link I'll make it go down within hours....
Just got it from my favorite warez site, dumbass! :loser:
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yeah im sure the majors need all the money they can get on this release...... u do realise people that dont pay for music arent just going to go and buy the album because some sad ass nerd is reporting links. we are just going to go and find it somewhere else. you really got nothing better to do with your time? really think you are making a difference? i look forward to hearing you response to this.
Yeah, I know that. Doesn't mean I can't piss people off by making the leak harder to find than the Holy Grail... lol
I found the holy grail yesturday. It was under my pillow.
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Intro - Dope, but can't really give it a rating. Too short.
Dollar and a Dream III - 5/5. The absolute perfect opener. Maybe my favorite J. Cole song ever. The beat is wow and his lyrics are on another level here.
Can't Get Enough - 4/5. A very dope single. Loved it since the first time I heard it.
Lights Please - 4/5. Old but I'm glad it made the album. One of Cole's coolest tracks.
Interlude - Ha, the story told here is dope.
Sideline Story - 4.5/5. Cole is spitting hard on this. I love this joint.
Mr. Nice Watch - 3.75/5. I still find this beat so weird. Jigga kills it though. Still, it's cool but not up to Cole's standards.
Cole World - 3.75/5 The bars are dope. Beat is pretty cool. Cole's flow on point too. Sounds like a potential single.
In the Morning - 4/5. Again old but glad it made the album. Such a dope vibe to it. Drake fits it perfectly.
Lost Ones - 5/5. Always loved this joint as well. Glad it made the album. One of Cole's most personal and best tracks.
Nobody's Perfect - 3.75/5. This track has a very cool vibe. Sounds old school. Wish Missy Elliot rapped though; she sounds really cool on this though.
Never Told - 3.75/5. Cool concept executed well. Beat is cool and Cole fits it well. You can tell it's a personal track. I dig it.
Rise And Shine - 4.5/5. This beat is super tight. Cole is snapping on it too! This is one of the better tracks for sure.
God's Gift - 5/5. Cole premiered this track in Toronto. The beat is a motherfucking monster, disappointing Hova didn't get on this. Definitely one of the best tracks.
Breakdown - 4.5/5. Last track on the original copy. Beat is nice and Cole is spitting meaningful (as usual). This is hungry Cole right here. Real shit!
Bonus tracks:
1. Cheer Up - 4.5/5. Glad this is on the album as a bonus. This was always a slept on track. Great vibe, one of Cole's better tracks.
2. Nothing Lasts Forever - 4/5. Girl on the hook is very cool. Another very nice track. Cole on topic throughout the whole thing.
3. Work Out - 4/5. Track was hated on when people thought it was the first single but I think it's cool. Now that it's not a single, you can just appreciate it as a cool cut.
4. Daddy's Little Girl - 3.75/5. This a cool bonus track. Has that classic Cole vibe to it.
All in all, Cole absolutely 100% delivered exactly what I'd hope he would for what, two years now? This album completely lives up to the hype. He's obviously someone who's recorded so much music for this album and leaked A LOT of what didn't make the cut. When that happens, fans often get concerned that the leaked material will be better than the material kept for the album. Now that the album has been heard, I can confidently say Cole did the best job possible of keeping his BEST music for the album and also putting the best leaked tracks on the album as well.
A near classic for sure and probably album of the year.
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I'm still surprised (and pleased) about the short guest list. No Wayne, WackaWacka, Rosay and all that shit.
So tempted to take a sneak peak.
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wow at this album...shit is ridiculous
from top to bottom its great, with mr nice watch being the worst song
:o at dollar and a dream 3
oh yea looks like the cole haters are quiet after hearing this album
the ones who are listening to 15 seconds of each song on youtube will still be hating tho
and cole shutup the haters who said he only got one flow =)
on two listens this album>>>>friday night lights, but dont know if its better than warm up yet.
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It's aight. Typical Cole. Mr. Nice Watch is a nice switch up for him.
I prefer Voli over Cole but best of luck to the crew.
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It's aight. Typical overrated Cole.
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Just got it from my favorite warez site, dumbass! :loser:
Thanks, now I don't have to bother searching anymore :)...
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Just got it from my favorite warez site, dumbass! :loser:
Thanks, now I don't have to bother searching anymore :)...
LMAO! I will buy it anyway, it's a great album!
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Album is amazing front to back, my bonus tracks differ from lunas for some reason? "gods gift">>>>>>>
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its coo....expected more
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Definitely copping
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is grouprip out yet?
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album has dope production a lot of high quality drum sounds and big sonics. cole is pretty dope too, well listenable over a lot of the rappers out these days.
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yeah im sure the majors need all the money they can get on this release...... u do realise people that dont pay for music arent just going to go and buy the album because some sad ass nerd is reporting links. we are just going to go and find it somewhere else. you really got nothing better to do with your time? really think you are making a difference? i look forward to hearing you response to this.
Yeah, I know that. Doesn't mean I can't piss people off by making the leak harder to find than the Holy Grail... lol
lol youre an idiot.
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Great album but I wish he didn't put some of those mixtape tracks on here. Only other complaint is that J Cole's hooks all sound exactly the same
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yeah im sure the majors need all the money they can get on this release...... u do realise people that dont pay for music arent just going to go and buy the album because some sad ass nerd is reporting links. we are just going to go and find it somewhere else. you really got nothing better to do with your time? really think you are making a difference? i look forward to hearing you response to this.
Yeah, I know that. Doesn't mean I can't piss people off by making the leak harder to find than the Holy Grail... lol
snitch
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yeah im sure the majors need all the money they can get on this release...... u do realise people that dont pay for music arent just going to go and buy the album because some sad ass nerd is reporting links. we are just going to go and find it somewhere else. you really got nothing better to do with your time? really think you are making a difference? i look forward to hearing you response to this.
Yeah, I know that. Doesn't mean I can't piss people off by making the leak harder to find than the Holy Grail... lol
come on man don't act like a biggity-bitch
anyway, just bumped the album front to back and it's very dope... I'll be buying this once I get my paycheck 8)
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have heard it only once but I feel it will be the weakest album released on next Tuesday
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All in all, Cole absolutely 100% delivered exactly what I'd hope he would for what, two years now? This album completely lives up to the hype. He's obviously someone who's recorded so much music for this album and leaked A LOT of what didn't make the cut. When that happens, fans often get concerned that the leaked material will be better than the material kept for the album. Now that the album has been heard, I can confidently say Cole did the best job possible of keeping his BEST music for the album and also putting the best leaked tracks on the album as well.
A near classic for sure and probably album of the year.
I agree with most of what you said but I have to say that IMO Return of Simba is the best track he's ever done and would have been a nice track to open the album up with. The intro to that song (him talking about having to meet with jay) and then he just explodes over that classic beat. Song is just perfect in my eyes.
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my review after listening to the album twice:
1. Intro - N/A
2. Dollar and a Dream III - 4.5/5
3. Can't Get Enough (feat. Trey Songz) - 4/5
4. Lights Please - 4/5
5. Interlude - N/A
6. Sideline Story - 4/5
7. Mr. Nice Watch (feat. Jay-Z) - 3.75/5
8. Cole World - 3.5/5
9. In the Morning (feat. Drake) - 4/5
10. Lost Ones - 4.5/5
11. Nobody's Perfect (feat. Missy Elliot) - 4/5
12. Never Told - 4/5
13. Rise & Shine - 4.5/5
14. God's Gift - 4.5/5
15. Breakdown - 4/5
16. Work Out - 3.75/5
BONUS TRACKS:
17. Cheer Up - 4/5
18. Nothing Lasts Forever - 3.5/5
19. Daddy's Little Girl - 3.5/5
very solid album throughout, Cole actually lived up the hype of his debut musically unlike Wiz Khalifa and Big Sean
this might even be better than WTT for me but I'll have to see which album I still bump in a few months, by far better than C4 though 8)
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album has dope production a lot of high quality drum sounds and big sonics. cole is pretty dope too, well listenable over a lot of the rappers out these days.
Dope album overall. After first couple listens I'd give it 4 mics. The track with Jay-Z and the following one sound out of place though, as if they were leftovers from WTT
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The only song with a decent amount of replay value is "Dollar & A Dream III".
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Phenomenal.
The album is amazing.
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The only song with a decent amount of replay value is "Dollar & A Dream III".
Come on thats gotta be a troll post. I usually dont involved in arguments and i probably wont respond after this but ure telling me Lost Ones is not a great song?
Definite contender for album of the year.
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Phenomenal.
The album is amazing.
Yup, my thoughts as well.
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The only song with a decent amount of replay value is "Dollar & A Dream III".
Come on thats gotta be a troll post. I usually dont involved in arguments and i probably wont respond after this but ure telling me Lost Ones is not a great song?
Definite contender for album of the year.
"Replay value". Lost Ones came out months ago.
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The only song with a decent amount of replay value is "Dollar & A Dream III".
Come on thats gotta be a troll post. I usually dont involved in arguments and i probably wont respond after this but ure telling me Lost Ones is not a great song?
Definite contender for album of the year.
"Replay value". Lost Ones came out months ago.
And I'm still replaying it ;)
"God's Gift" is dope as fuck too. "Nobody's Perfect" too.
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The only song with a decent amount of replay value is "Dollar & A Dream III".
Come on thats gotta be a troll post. I usually dont involved in arguments and i probably wont respond after this but ure telling me Lost Ones is not a great song?
Definite contender for album of the year.
"Replay value". Lost Ones came out months ago.
And I'm still replaying it ;)
"God's Gift" is dope as fuck too. "Nobody's Perfect" too.
There you go. That's more proper terminology. "Dope". Words like "phenomenal" & "incredible" are being thrown around in a thread about music that isn't really anything special when you really listen to it. He's been making the same sounding music since he's hit the scene. I've seen no growth, no improvement.
Like somebody said earlier, "I don't know if this is better than 'The Warm Up'". Cole show no signs of progression, this is the best he will ever be.
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The only song with a decent amount of replay value is "Dollar & A Dream III".
Come on thats gotta be a troll post. I usually dont involved in arguments and i probably wont respond after this but ure telling me Lost Ones is not a great song?
Definite contender for album of the year.
"Replay value". Lost Ones came out months ago.
Wait so if the song hadn't dropped 3 months ago, we would be allowed to call it phenomenal according to you? So if the song was phenomenal 3 months ago, it's phenomenal anymore because it's 3 months old? That makes no sense.
Anyway, I skipped most of J Cole's material so 90% of the album was new to me and even if I had heard the songs that leaked beforehand, that wouldn't make them any less dope.
It's all good though, to each his own.
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There you go. That's more proper terminology. "Dope". Words like "phenomenal" & "incredible" are being thrown around in a thread about music that isn't really anything special when you really listen to it. He's been making the same sounding music since he's hit the scene. I've seen no growth, no improvement.
Like somebody said earlier, "I don't know if this is better than 'The Warm Up'". Cole show no signs of progression, this is the best he will ever be.
Wait, so since Snoop's Doggystyle was the "best he would ever be", does that mean Doggystyle is not a classic? (I am not comparing Doggystyle to Cole World btw and I am not calling Cole World a classic).
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The only song with a decent amount of replay value is "Dollar & A Dream III".
Come on thats gotta be a troll post. I usually dont involved in arguments and i probably wont respond after this but ure telling me Lost Ones is not a great song?
Definite contender for album of the year.
"Replay value". Lost Ones came out months ago.
Wait so if the song hadn't dropped 3 months ago, we would be allowed to call it phenomenal according to you? So if the song was phenomenal 3 months ago, it's phenomenal anymore because it's 3 months old? That makes no sense.
No, an old "pretty good" (easy with that "phenomenal" word) song 3 months old, trying to be passed off as something he's just released has no replay value. To me it's an old track I'd skip because I'd rather listen to material I haven't heard.
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There you go. That's more proper terminology. "Dope". Words like "phenomenal" & "incredible" are being thrown around in a thread about music that isn't really anything special when you really listen to it. He's been making the same sounding music since he's hit the scene. I've seen no growth, no improvement.
Like somebody said earlier, "I don't know if this is better than 'The Warm Up'". Cole show no signs of progression, this is the best he will ever be.
Wait, so since Snoop's Doggystyle was the "best he would ever be", does that mean Doggystyle is not a classic? (I am not comparing Doggystyle to Cole World btw and I am not calling Cole World a classic).
Well you kind of answered yourself with what you said in the parenthesis. Cole World is not a classic. It likely won't even go down as album of this year. & as Snoop and almost every other mainstream rapper we've ever seen, you progressively start getting worse after your first album.
Doggystyle is a classic album. Cole World is a pretty solid/dope album. Snoop as his best produced arguably one of the greatest albums ever. Cole at his best produced an album people are excited about because of the hype but will be forgotten about shortly.
I mean, sure. There is a chance he gets better, but so far two street albums (he really tried hard on) & one studio album deep, he really hasn't given us anything that really sticks out that could be remembered long-term. & like I said, most rappers seem to be better earlier in their career rather than later.
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The only song with a decent amount of replay value is "Dollar & A Dream III".
Come on thats gotta be a troll post. I usually dont involved in arguments and i probably wont respond after this but ure telling me Lost Ones is not a great song?
Definite contender for album of the year.
"Replay value". Lost Ones came out months ago.
Wait so if the song hadn't dropped 3 months ago, we would be allowed to call it phenomenal according to you? So if the song was phenomenal 3 months ago, it's phenomenal anymore because it's 3 months old? That makes no sense.
No, an old "pretty good" (easy with that "phenomenal" word) song 3 months old, trying to be passed off as something he's just released has no replay value. To me it's an old track I'd skip because I'd rather listen to material I haven't heard.
See, this is why I dodge the leaked songs from official albums and mixtapes/street albums with teasers from the album. I wanna get that fresh album feeling from all the songs. Sadly, I couldn't wait with some tracks, and Work Out has been on repeat a couple of weeks now lol.
And so what if Cole hasn't "showed any progression" or doesn't "switch up his flow", he's still better and fresher than most rappers out.
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There you go. That's more proper terminology. "Dope". Words like "phenomenal" & "incredible" are being thrown around in a thread about music that isn't really anything special when you really listen to it. He's been making the same sounding music since he's hit the scene. I've seen no growth, no improvement.
Like somebody said earlier, "I don't know if this is better than 'The Warm Up'". Cole show no signs of progression, this is the best he will ever be.
Wait, so since Snoop's Doggystyle was the "best he would ever be", does that mean Doggystyle is not a classic? (I am not comparing Doggystyle to Cole World btw and I am not calling Cole World a classic).
Well you kind of answered yourself with what you said in the parenthesis. Cole World is not a classic. It likely won't even go down as album of this year. & as Snoop and almost every other mainstream rapper we've ever seen, you progressively start getting worse after your first album.
Doggystyle is a classic album. Cole World is a pretty solid/dope album. Snoop as his best produced arguably one of the greatest albums ever. Cole at his best produced an album people are excited about because of the hype but will be forgotten about shortly.
I mean, sure. There is a chance he gets better, but so far two street albums (he really tried hard on) & one studio album deep, he really hasn't given us anything that really sticks out that could be remembered long-term. & like I said, most rappers seem to be better earlier in their career rather than later.
Why are you prophesying about the man's future career? This is a discussion about his debut album. Whether he gets better or gets worse in the future has jackall to do with this thread.
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There you go. That's more proper terminology. "Dope". Words like "phenomenal" & "incredible" are being thrown around in a thread about music that isn't really anything special when you really listen to it. He's been making the same sounding music since he's hit the scene. I've seen no growth, no improvement.
Like somebody said earlier, "I don't know if this is better than 'The Warm Up'". Cole show no signs of progression, this is the best he will ever be.
Wait, so since Snoop's Doggystyle was the "best he would ever be", does that mean Doggystyle is not a classic? (I am not comparing Doggystyle to Cole World btw and I am not calling Cole World a classic).
Well you kind of answered yourself with what you said in the parenthesis. Cole World is not a classic. It likely won't even go down as album of this year. & as Snoop and almost every other mainstream rapper we've ever seen, you progressively start getting worse after your first album.
Doggystyle is a classic album. Cole World is a pretty solid/dope album. Snoop as his best produced arguably one of the greatest albums ever. Cole at his best produced an album people are excited about because of the hype but will be forgotten about shortly.
I mean, sure. There is a chance he gets better, but so far two street albums (he really tried hard on) & one studio album deep, he really hasn't given us anything that really sticks out that could be remembered long-term. & like I said, most rappers seem to be better earlier in their career rather than later.
Why are you prophesying about the man's future career? This is a discussion about his debut album. Whether he gets better or gets worse in the future has jackall to do with this thread.
Also, this...
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I was also a big skeptic. Because lately he was stuck in his somewhat boring Cole zone. But the album ? It's great. Great debut from top to bottom. Really well put together. The only question remains if it's gonna still sound great in 6 months.
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The only song with a decent amount of replay value is "Dollar & A Dream III".
Come on thats gotta be a troll post. I usually dont involved in arguments and i probably wont respond after this but ure telling me Lost Ones is not a great song?
Definite contender for album of the year.
Yes on both. It's getting great reviews from what I've seen elsewhere.
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There you go. That's more proper terminology. "Dope". Words like "phenomenal" & "incredible" are being thrown around in a thread about music that isn't really anything special when you really listen to it. He's been making the same sounding music since he's hit the scene. I've seen no growth, no improvement.
Like somebody said earlier, "I don't know if this is better than 'The Warm Up'". Cole show no signs of progression, this is the best he will ever be.
Wait, so since Snoop's Doggystyle was the "best he would ever be", does that mean Doggystyle is not a classic? (I am not comparing Doggystyle to Cole World btw and I am not calling Cole World a classic).
Well you kind of answered yourself with what you said in the parenthesis. Cole World is not a classic. It likely won't even go down as album of this year. & as Snoop and almost every other mainstream rapper we've ever seen, you progressively start getting worse after your first album.
Doggystyle is a classic album. Cole World is a pretty solid/dope album. Snoop as his best produced arguably one of the greatest albums ever. Cole at his best produced an album people are excited about because of the hype but will be forgotten about shortly.
I mean, sure. There is a chance he gets better, but so far two street albums (he really tried hard on) & one studio album deep, he really hasn't given us anything that really sticks out that could be remembered long-term. & like I said, most rappers seem to be better earlier in their career rather than later.
Why are you prophesying about the man's future career? This is a discussion about his debut album. Whether he gets better or gets worse in the future has jackall to do with this thread.
Also, this...
How you figure that? Of course it has to do with this thread. The thread is about Cole's album. Which, like I said, isn't anything special. We're looking at this "golden child"'s peak & it's really nothing to write home about.
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There you go. That's more proper terminology. "Dope". Words like "phenomenal" & "incredible" are being thrown around in a thread about music that isn't really anything special when you really listen to it. He's been making the same sounding music since he's hit the scene. I've seen no growth, no improvement.
Like somebody said earlier, "I don't know if this is better than 'The Warm Up'". Cole show no signs of progression, this is the best he will ever be.
Wait, so since Snoop's Doggystyle was the "best he would ever be", does that mean Doggystyle is not a classic? (I am not comparing Doggystyle to Cole World btw and I am not calling Cole World a classic).
Well you kind of answered yourself with what you said in the parenthesis. Cole World is not a classic. It likely won't even go down as album of this year. & as Snoop and almost every other mainstream rapper we've ever seen, you progressively start getting worse after your first album.
Doggystyle is a classic album. Cole World is a pretty solid/dope album. Snoop as his best produced arguably one of the greatest albums ever. Cole at his best produced an album people are excited about because of the hype but will be forgotten about shortly.
I mean, sure. There is a chance he gets better, but so far two street albums (he really tried hard on) & one studio album deep, he really hasn't given us anything that really sticks out that could be remembered long-term. & like I said, most rappers seem to be better earlier in their career rather than later.
Why are you prophesying about the man's future career? This is a discussion about his debut album. Whether he gets better or gets worse in the future has jackall to do with this thread.
Also, this...
How you figure that? Of course it has to do with this thread. The thread is about Cole's album. Which, like I said, isn't anything special. We're looking at this "golden child"'s peak & it's really nothing to write home about.
How do you know that? How can you tell it's his peak?
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Cham's just caught himself up in a rant, I can only see Cole getting better, similar to Jay Z. Have been giving the album crazy burn, I definitely think this will be looked back at as a modern hip hop classic, it's good to see people talking about the music and not predicting sales as well.
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You people are acting like he's got one album. Son has over 50 songs.
50 Cent 50 songs deep was The Massacre & you all started to turn on him.
Snoop Dogg 50 songs deep started sounding pretty average.
He has a large body of work to judge him by & it's just "pretty good". There is nothing special about him. I mean, I'm obviously right, look at these responses. "How do you know he's at his peak?", "You're caught in your own rant", "What are you talking about?". How about somebody defends this "incredibly fantastic" music by naming them.
Cole had high expectations. He didn't meet them. Sure, you can all say, "yeah, but that doesn't mean he's wack" & my response to that is, I agree, he isn't "wack". He's just average.
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well this album has now passed the whip test 8)
definitely buying this now even though I was pretty set on it anyway
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Copping this and FIFA 12 Tuesday lol
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this album is good, but lets be honest evidence dropped the best album on the 27th. that shit is heat rocks
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Copping this and FIFA 12 Tuesday lol
i want to measure you ;)
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You people are acting like he's got one album. Son has over 50 songs.
50 Cent 50 songs deep was The Massacre & you all started to turn on him.
Snoop Dogg 50 songs deep started sounding pretty average.
He has a large body of work to judge him by & it's just "pretty good". There is nothing special about him. I mean, I'm obviously right, look at these responses. "How do you know he's at his peak?", "You're caught in your own rant", "What are you talking about?". How about somebody defends this "incredibly fantastic" music by naming them.
Cole had high expectations. He didn't meet them. Sure, you can all say, "yeah, but that doesn't mean he's wack" & my response to that is, I agree, he isn't "wack". He's just average.
Lol, you're talking like you got the answers, like you know what's good and what's not. When really it's just your opinion. I'mma go ahead and let you hate, cause I will sure enjoy this album for a damn long time. I've listened to this album once now, and he for sure met my expectations.
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You people are acting like he's got one album. Son has over 50 songs.
50 Cent 50 songs deep was The Massacre & you all started to turn on him.
Snoop Dogg 50 songs deep started sounding pretty average.
He has a large body of work to judge him by & it's just "pretty good". There is nothing special about him. I mean, I'm obviously right, look at these responses. "How do you know he's at his peak?", "You're caught in your own rant", "What are you talking about?". How about somebody defends this "incredibly fantastic" music by naming them.
Cole had high expectations. He didn't meet them. Sure, you can all say, "yeah, but that doesn't mean he's wack" & my response to that is, I agree, he isn't "wack". He's just average.
You just fucked up with that 50 comparison, homie had already made 3 albums and a group album PRIOR to Massacre, and a whole gang of mixtape shit, Massacre would have been 50 after making 1 or 2 hundred tracks.
Cham it's obvious you don't like Cole, and it's obvious alot of people do, your opinion is just that, your opinion, stop acting like it is the gospel.
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You people are acting like he's got one album. Son has over 50 songs.
50 Cent 50 songs deep was The Massacre & you all started to turn on him.
Snoop Dogg 50 songs deep started sounding pretty average.
He has a large body of work to judge him by & it's just "pretty good". There is nothing special about him. I mean, I'm obviously right, look at these responses. "How do you know he's at his peak?", "You're caught in your own rant", "What are you talking about?". How about somebody defends this "incredibly fantastic" music by naming them.
Cole had high expectations. He didn't meet them. Sure, you can all say, "yeah, but that doesn't mean he's wack" & my response to that is, I agree, he isn't "wack". He's just average.
You just fucked up with that 50 comparison, homie had already made 3 albums and a group album PRIOR to Massacre, and a whole gang of mixtape shit, Massacre would have been 50 after making 1 or 2 hundred tracks.
Cham it's obvious you don't like Cole, and it's obvious alot of people do, your opinion is just that, your opinion, stop acting like it is the gospel.
yeah 50 was at least 50 tracks deep before he even released GRODT, but anyway dont listen to cham, he has no idea what the fuck hes talking about as usual
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Stop, 50 had one album (Power of A Dollar). And a bunch of mixtapes. Let's all hop off the Cole bandwagon & stop making up facts.
"The Warm Up" & "Friday Night Lights" are not mixtapes; like 50's. Those are two street albums he put two-three verses & hook on every song. He made all those songs like he would album songs. They weren't some 50 bar freestyles.
& K.Dub. Like I said, just point me to this greatness where my opinion of him just be "alright" isn't true? I figured you guys would be throwing songs in my face instead of just saying, "ahhh I don't want to hear it, I love Cole, lalalalalalalalalala".
Once this flops, Jay only makes him more mainstream from here.
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the album bumps and cole is very decent. he sounds a lot better than some of these new cats who get a lot of radio play and attention. i don't think this anything is anything classic but it's real good, the production is strong. i think the first half has most of the better stuff though. who dat would be up there with the better tracks.
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Copping this and FIFA 12 Tuesday lol
i want to measure you ;)
I'm unreal :D
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Stop, 50 had one album (Power of A Dollar). And a bunch of mixtapes. Let's all hop off the Cole bandwagon & stop making up facts.
"The Warm Up" & "Friday Night Lights" are not mixtapes; like 50's. Those are two street albums he put two-three verses & hook on every song. He made all those songs like he would album songs. They weren't some 50 bar freestyles.
& K.Dub. Like I said, just point me to this greatness where my opinion of him just be "alright" isn't true? I figured you guys would be throwing songs in my face instead of just saying, "ahhh I don't want to hear it, I love Cole, lalalalalalalalalala".
Once this flops, Jay only makes him more mainstream from here.
Lol, I'm not on this board to argue and beef like this, that's for sure. I'm not gonna post any tracks just to "prove" Cole's one of the best out right now. Initially, I wasn't going to react to your statements, but you obviously got what you wanted. Deep down, I don't care if you don't like Cole or thinks he's average or whatever.
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Stop, 50 had one album (Power of A Dollar). And a bunch of mixtapes. Let's all hop off the Cole bandwagon & stop making up facts.
i dont give a fuck about cole really, dude isnt so amazing. just calling you on on saying dumb shit. the songs on 50s mixtapes werent just freestyles, dude changed the game. u can say they dont count as real count as real songs if u want but its all just arguing over terms. he was 50 tracks deep by his first REAL album
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Album is fucking fresh. Dont know what the fuck people talking about
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Stop, 50 had one album (Power of A Dollar). And a bunch of mixtapes. Let's all hop off the Cole bandwagon & stop making up facts.
i dont give a fuck about cole really, dude isnt so amazing. just calling you on on saying dumb shit. the songs on 50s mixtapes werent just freestyles, dude changed the game. u can say they dont count as real count as real songs if u want but its all just arguing over terms. he was 50 tracks deep by his first REAL album
They changed the game, but they were freestyles. No more, no less.
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Def in my Top3 this year, pretty dope Album 8)
Let them haters hate
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Agree with cham on this. J.Cole doesnt really stand out for me and i find him pretty borin.
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Stop, 50 had one album (Power of A Dollar). And a bunch of mixtapes. Let's all hop off the Cole bandwagon & stop making up facts.
i dont give a fuck about cole really, dude isnt so amazing. just calling you on on saying dumb shit. the songs on 50s mixtapes werent just freestyles, dude changed the game. u can say they dont count as real count as real songs if u want but its all just arguing over terms. he was 50 tracks deep by his first REAL album
They changed the game, but they were freestyles. No more, no less.
he made SONGS on another dudes beat instead of just freestlying you dolt. thats why it changed the game. u will seriously argue anything rather than just take the L
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Stop, 50 had one album (Power of A Dollar). And a bunch of mixtapes. Let's all hop off the Cole bandwagon & stop making up facts.
"The Warm Up" & "Friday Night Lights" are not mixtapes; like 50's. Those are two street albums he put two-three verses & hook on every song. He made all those songs like he would album songs. They weren't some 50 bar freestyles.
They changed the game, but they were freestyles. No more, no less.
So in other words.....50 Cent had the career of Crooked I before GRODT?
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Stop, 50 had one album (Power of A Dollar). And a bunch of mixtapes. Let's all hop off the Cole bandwagon & stop making up facts.
"The Warm Up" & "Friday Night Lights" are not mixtapes; like 50's. Those are two street albums he put two-three verses & hook on every song. He made all those songs like he would album songs. They weren't some 50 bar freestyles.
& K.Dub. Like I said, just point me to this greatness where my opinion of him just be "alright" isn't true? I figured you guys would be throwing songs in my face instead of just saying, "ahhh I don't want to hear it, I love Cole, lalalalalalalalalala".
Once this flops, Jay only makes him more mainstream from here.
Guess who's back 1 and 2 was made up of tracks made prior to get rich, and there's mixtapes filled with full songs made prior. Cham you're comparison was wrong, it's ok.
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Stop, 50 had one album (Power of A Dollar). And a bunch of mixtapes. Let's all hop off the Cole bandwagon & stop making up facts.
"The Warm Up" & "Friday Night Lights" are not mixtapes; like 50's. Those are two street albums he put two-three verses & hook on every song. He made all those songs like he would album songs. They weren't some 50 bar freestyles.
They changed the game, but they were freestyles. No more, no less.
So in other words.....50 Cent had the career of Crooked I before GRODT?
Well Crooked I put a lot more effort in it than 50 Cent. Most of Crooked I's verses we hear would of been album material. 50 Cent just made some freestyles.
Now getting back to J. Cole, his first two street albums weren't some "fan pleaser mix" thrown together to keep his name relevant. He tried hard to put together a strong body of work. "Friday Night Lights" probably would of been "Cole World" if "Who Dat" & "Blow Up" weren't complete fails.
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Stop, 50 had one album (Power of A Dollar). And a bunch of mixtapes. Let's all hop off the Cole bandwagon & stop making up facts.
"The Warm Up" & "Friday Night Lights" are not mixtapes; like 50's. Those are two street albums he put two-three verses & hook on every song. He made all those songs like he would album songs. They weren't some 50 bar freestyles.
& K.Dub. Like I said, just point me to this greatness where my opinion of him just be "alright" isn't true? I figured you guys would be throwing songs in my face instead of just saying, "ahhh I don't want to hear it, I love Cole, lalalalalalalalalala".
Once this flops, Jay only makes him more mainstream from here.
Guess who's back 1 and 2 was made up of tracks made prior to get rich, and there's mixtapes filled with full songs made prior. Cham you're comparison was wrong, it's ok.
"U Not Like Me" was on Get Rich or Die Tryin', "Life's on the Line" & "Ghetto Qu'Ran" were on Power of a Dollar & everything else besides a few songs are 1:30-2:00 long lol. Those are freestyles.
& while we're talking about 50 Cent, look at three songs I just mentioned, all incredible songs most 50 Cent fans would consider their favorites. Cole doesn't have songs like that.
You guys are trying to argue the wrong point because you know I'm right about Cole, it's ok.
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The only point I'm trying to prove is about 50, if you call what he did freestyles you obviously don't understand why he changed the game. You're entitled to your opinion about Cole, that doesn't phase me
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The only point I'm trying to prove is about 50, if you call what he did freestyles you obviously don't understand why he changed the game. You're entitled to your opinion about Cole, that doesn't phase me
http://www.youtube.com/v/XvZ2jG7V23I&feature=related
Yeah, why would I call this a freestyle? I must be lost lol.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/FDewiinw0VA?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0
this is a great track...i feel sorry for anyone who cant appreciate or enjoy it or the album over all cuz its a really good music...loosen up people
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I just hope my local shop got it in today ;D
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Album of the year
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Great album, thought the fact that he was producing most of it was gonna be the weak point since he was starting to sound stale but TBH that's probably the best thing about it. It flows great like an album should, doesn't sound like a compilation unlike recent major albums such as Wiz/Big Sean/Game. Don't think there's any bad songs just a couple average such as the Drake song but it's the first album in a while i've found i can just listen to over and over without skipping songs.
Not gonna say it's album of the year but it'll be up there, considering it's his first album I don't really know what more some people were expecting, it's not like he was gonna drop a classic, nobody's going to nowadays
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Damn, so he produced most of the album himself?
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Damn, so he produced most of the album himself?
He produced all but 2 tracks
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Damn, so he produced most of the album himself?
He produced all but 2 tracks
Whoa.
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Damn, so he produced most of the album himself?
He produced all but 2 tracks
Whoa.
Sorry, all but 3
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=272069.0
Also had some co-production help on some.
Still very impressive.
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Damn, so he produced most of the album himself?
He produced all but 2 tracks
Whoa.
Sorry, all but 3
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=272069.0
Also had some co-production help on some.
Still very impressive.
Aye, it sure is. Not many debutants on a major gets to do that.
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Damn, so he produced most of the album himself?
He produced all but 2 tracks
Whoa.
Sorry, all but 3
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=272069.0
Also had some co-production help on some.
Still very impressive.
Aye, it sure is. Not many debutants on a major gets to do that.
Apparently he had a hand in every track on the album, additional instrumentation, arrangements etc. One talented mahfuckka and I only see him getting better.
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Well, I bought my copies today. Now to give it a spin...
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Damn, so he produced most of the album himself?
He produced all but 2 tracks
Whoa.
Sorry, all but 3
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=272069.0
Also had some co-production help on some.
Still very impressive.
Aye, it sure is. Not many debutants on a major gets to do that.
Apparently he had a hand in every track on the album, additional instrumentation, arrangements etc. One talented mahfuckka and I only see him getting better.
Yeah now that I see that Vault thread, I already knew he produced a large chunck of it, lol.
And I agree dubsmith, let's hope he progress.
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Stop, 50 had one album (Power of A Dollar). And a bunch of mixtapes. Let's all hop off the Cole bandwagon & stop making up facts.
"The Warm Up" & "Friday Night Lights" are not mixtapes; like 50's. Those are two street albums he put two-three verses & hook on every song. He made all those songs like he would album songs. They weren't some 50 bar freestyles.
They changed the game, but they were freestyles. No more, no less.
So in other words.....50 Cent had the career of Crooked I before GRODT?
Well Crooked I put a lot more effort in it than 50 Cent. Most of Crooked I's verses we hear would of been album material. 50 Cent just made some freestyles.
No, most of Crooked I's lyrics were freestyles over other people's beats with no song structure. 50 Cent was doing songs. Hooks, verses and everything.
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I don't think I've ever heard something from J. Cole, not sure... but if I were to listen for the 1st or 2nd time to J. Cole, how would I like this album?
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I'm picking up my copy on Friday, I'll leave my thoughts next week.
He's on pace to sell 225K it's being reported :o
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I don't think I've ever heard something from J. Cole, not sure... but if I were to listen for the 1st or 2nd time to J. Cole, how would I like this album?
I'd imagine you'd dig it.
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Something happened out here today that has never happened to me before. I went to HMV to pick the album up and got this response "Sorry, we're sold out. You're like the 10th person to come in here since we sold out."
Wow.
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Something happened out here today that has never happened to me before. I went to HMV to pick the album up and got this response "Sorry, we're sold out. You're like the 10th person to come in here since we sold out."
Wow.
That's great! ;)
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Album is fucking fresh, even track with Drake is good. Some grate beats!
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Very nice album after first listen... 8)
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Something happened out here today that has never happened to me before. I went to HMV to pick the album up and got this response "Sorry, we're sold out. You're like the 10th person to come in here since we sold out."
Wow.
Lol, man I just came on to say the same thing. I get paid every Friday so I usually wait until Friday to buy my CDs but I wanted this so I went today and it was sold out. Ive never had that happen to me before. The chick at the counter said pretty much the same thing. Had to reserve a copy for when they come in.
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Something happened out here today that has never happened to me before. I went to HMV to pick the album up and got this response "Sorry, we're sold out. You're like the 10th person to come in here since we sold out."
Wow.
Lol, man I just came on to say the same thing. I get paid every Friday so I usually wait until Friday to buy my CDs but I wanted this so I went today and it was sold out. Ive never had that happen to me before. The chick at the counter said pretty much the same thing. Had to reserve a copy for when they come in.
It's crazy!
I'm goin' back Monday and they should have more copies
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A couple of reviews I found
This one's funny as hell ;D
http://bigghostnahmean.blogspot.com/2011/09/big-ghost-review-for-cole-world.html
This one is very on point in my opinion
http://www.rapreviews.com/archive/2011_09_coleworld.html
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^In all seriousness, outside of his serious dislike for Drake's music, P Tone gives the most real reviews. He keys in on the flaws people just want to overlook, but are the same people who will say it about some other rapper they aren't feeling.
I read his review all the way through, although fucking hilarious, he does raise some good points. His hook game sounds the same & for the most part weak throughout the album, the production was, for the most part, a miss & that "lamest bar:" thing he did at the end of each song was great. It's kind of like, if I told you I like Lil' Wayne's music, you guys would be like "He's fucking awful. One of the worst rappers. He has lines like, "insert corny Wayne punchline". But this "great rapper", J. Cole, just gets to say lines just about equally as bad at least once a song & it's like, "Oh, it's okay".
I'd flip your last post around & say
A couple of reviews I found
This one is very on point in my opinion
http://bigghostnahmean.blogspot.com/2011/09/big-ghost-review-for-cole-world.html
This one is funny as hell ;D (for hyping Cole up like he's something great)
http://www.rapreviews.com/archive/2011_09_coleworld.html
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^In all seriousness, outside of his serious dislike for Drake's music, P Tone gives the most real reviews. He keys in on the flaws people just want to overlook, but are the same people who will say it about some other rapper they aren't feeling.
I read his review all the way through, although fucking hilarious, he does raise some good points. His hook game sounds the same & for the most part weak throughout the album, the production was, for the most part, a miss & that "lamest bar:" thing he did at the end of each song was great. It's kind of like, if I told you I like Lil' Wayne's music, you guys would be like "He's fucking awful. One of the worst rappers. He has lines like, "insert corny Wayne punchline". But this "great rapper", J. Cole, just gets to say lines just about equally as bad at least once a song & it's like, "Oh, it's okay".
Yes, that P Tone review has some solid points, I'll give him that.
Also, I wouldn't say RR's journalist is praising and hyping Cole _that_ much.
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^I'll be honest, I didn't read the other review. I saw the first couple lines, where he was like "straight fire, incredible lyrics", etc & I was just like...Oh, I know where this is going lol.
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^I'll be honest, I didn't read the other review. I saw the first couple lines, where he was like "straight fire, incredible lyrics", etc & I was just like...Oh, I know where this is going lol.
The reviewer wastes the first 5 paragraphs talking about Cole's backstory and the album sequencing. Last 3 paragraphs are the actual review. I agree with what he says and his rating.
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Picked up my copy for 7.99 8)
Listened to it three times now and I'm diggin it. Great headphone music, good to sit back and just vibe to. Only song I'm not feelin is Cole world.
Albums a solid 8/10
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havent listened to the J Cole album.. buzz is big, might have to jump on the bandwagon n c what its about
i liked the saigon-album tho, minus 3 or 4 songs
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Can't stop listening to lost ones. Anyone who can relate to that song knows what's up