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Title: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: when it rains it pours on October 13, 2011, 07:54:21 PM
in france they are claiming to be discriminated against when they made it a law to wear a fucking burqa in public.  But yet when someone goes to their country, they have the audacity to arrest someone for his 'religious' tattoos?

dont get me wrong, there are good muslim people that are for world peace and and avoiding negativity-  but most of the muslim people are fuckheads, dont know their own religion.

brian stay out of this thread, ur opinion is worthless
(http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/84/84ff8c2ef1ae42181cb46cc4f178ca36/saudis_arrest_colombian_footballer_for_exposed_tattoos.jpg)

According to reports, Colombian winger Juan Pablo Pino was arrested by the Saudi moral police when fellow shoppers in a Riyadh mall complained about the exposed tattoos on his arms, which include the face of Jesus and other religious symbols. Pino joined Saudi club Al Nassr on loan from Galatasaray at the end of August and apparently was not aware that showing his tattoos by wearing a sleeveless shirt in public would cause him any problems.

From Colombia Reports:

    Saudi Arabia is one of the most conservative countries in the Muslim world, and according to one of the country's most respected clerics, Nayimi Sheik Mohammed, Saudi law prohibits tattoos, no matter what their form, and every player has to abide with these rules.

    The cleric went on to stress the importance of respecting the status of "Sharia" (Islamic law) and that the tattoos must be covered at all times.

    Pino, who plays in the Saudi league, has expressed "deep sorrow" for his actions and said he respects the laws of the country. He was released from custody when a team delegate arrived and discussed the matter with the police.

Gulf News reports that a Saudi Football Federation official "sent a circular to all clubs asking them to advise their professionals and players to respect Saudi traditions and not show their religious symbols in a way disregarding Saudi customs and traditions" after a cross tattoo on the arm of a Romanian player for Al Hilal caused controversy last year.

It's unclear whether Al Nassr informed Pino of this in his short time with the club, but he'll probably be investing in some long-sleeve shirts now.
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: OG Jaydc on October 13, 2011, 09:37:15 PM
Religion is the true evil of the world. Always has been. People are too dumb to realize it.
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 13, 2011, 10:42:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/MeSSwKffj9o

This sums up religon gorgeously.
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: Turf Hitta on October 14, 2011, 12:02:41 AM
Lol why single out muslims? U could say the same about most religions, particularly christianity.
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: Russell Bell on October 15, 2011, 08:46:55 PM
Lol why single out muslims? U could say the same about most religions, particularly christianity.

True, but this story is about a muslim  doing something that is hypocritical to his religion. 

This thread led me to these thoughts:  To me, (extreme) muslims want the world to be a society straight outta like 3 centuries ago, hence their disgust with all things western.  I think they have that right in their countries to do whatever they want and live by their laws, but they wont look at the US in that way (hypocritical).

Any dime or penny we spend trying to placate these people or support another side to try and defeat them is a dime or penny wasted, theyre going to think what they think so fuck em.  What can they really do?  Invade us?  Take over the White House?  No way.  Theyre ass holes but not ass holes with any real capability. 

And before any liberal everything is relative person comes in here and reminds me of the crusades and christianitys checkered past (and present), I know I get it.  But we're talking about muslims here. 
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: Mo Z. Dizzle on October 15, 2011, 10:50:25 PM
two flaws with this:

1) Saudi Arabia is an 'Islamic' absolute monarchy, not a democracy. France claims to secular and a democracy; that's why there's complaints of having the burqa banned for freedom of religion. Saudi Arabia doesn't have that, which really isn't correct under Islamic law because as it states in the Qur'an, "There is no compulsion in religion" (2:256, first sentence).

2) Saudi Arabia is ruled by the extremist sect of Wahabism, who have their own illogical beliefs. They also discriminate against other Muslim sects, primarily the Shia sect. They've also carried out actions like destroying graveyards with religious figures in there. They were also planning to destroy the grave of the Prophet.

Think about that for a second even if you don't believe in religion or don't accept Islam...they claim to represent an ideology and yet they want to destroy the grave of the most important person of this ideology? doesn't make sense.

Btw, its also funny it was mentioned that the extreme Muslims want things to by like it was 3 centuries ago. Because Saudi Arabia is actually turn Mecca into Vegas:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/mecca-for-the-rich-islams-holiest-site-turning-into-vegas-2360114.html

And another side note, their (and the Gulf countries for that matter) biggest supporter is the USA.
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: Russell Bell on October 16, 2011, 03:15:07 AM
two flaws with this:

1) Saudi Arabia is an 'Islamic' absolute monarchy, not a democracy. France claims to secular and a democracy; that's why there's complaints of having the burqa banned for freedom of religion. Saudi Arabia doesn't have that, which really isn't correct under Islamic law because as it states in the Qur'an, "There is no compulsion in religion" (2:256, first sentence).

2) Saudi Arabia is ruled by the extremist sect of Wahabism, who have their own illogical beliefs. They also discriminate against other Muslim sects, primarily the Shia sect. They've also carried out actions like destroying graveyards with religious figures in there. They were also planning to destroy the grave of the Prophet.

Think about that for a second even if you don't believe in religion or don't accept Islam...they claim to represent an ideology and yet they want to destroy the grave of the most important person of this ideology? doesn't make sense.

Btw, its also funny it was mentioned that the extreme Muslims want things to by like it was 3 centuries ago. Because Saudi Arabia is actually turn Mecca into Vegas:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/mecca-for-the-rich-islams-holiest-site-turning-into-vegas-2360114.html

And another side note, their (and the Gulf countries for that matter) biggest supporter is the USA.

about mecca into vegas, of course there are governments and people in these countries who support that, theres lots of money to be made, and im sure not all of those countries want to be like afghanistan etc.  I was just saying that lots of repressive extreme muslim governments like that exist, obviously thats not the only kind of muslim country that exists.
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: Fraxxx on October 16, 2011, 04:26:27 AM

dont get me wrong, there are good muslim people that are for world peace and and avoiding negativity-  but most of the muslim people are fuckheads, dont know their own religion.


If you want your opinion to be taken seriously you should think twice before writing out such obvious bullshit.



Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: Raphael on October 16, 2011, 06:36:59 AM
Atheists ftw :banana_trippin:
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: 13th Duke on October 16, 2011, 07:30:10 AM
People who generalise entire nations, cultures or races = absolute cunts.
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: 2euce 7even on October 16, 2011, 08:18:10 AM
muslims = savages
simple az dat!!
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: Mo Z. Dizzle on October 16, 2011, 08:40:52 AM
muslims = savages
simple az dat!!

not really.
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: 2euce 7even on October 16, 2011, 01:05:21 PM
muslims = savages
simple az dat!!

not really.

cīmon man.. im 2 lazy 2 posts links and shit .. iīm right ... AND YOU KNOW THAT!(mac shawn voice)
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: Fraxxx on October 16, 2011, 02:14:04 PM
muslims = savages
simple az dat!!

not really.

cīmon man.. im 2 lazy 2 posts links and shit .. iīm right ... AND YOU KNOW THAT!(mac shawn voice)

Someone who's on a gang's dick like you shouldn't talk bout anyone. Or prove me wrong and find a minute or two in your busy life and post up some links that would support your stupid statement. I doubt you can.
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: Sikotic™ on October 16, 2011, 04:59:40 PM
All religious people are hypocrites. Don't attack one stupid fairy tale over the other.

That's like talking shit about someone's Ford Fiesta when you drive a Geo Metro. Ya smell me?

Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: Turf Hitta on October 16, 2011, 11:17:48 PM
Lol why single out muslims? U could say the same about most religions, particularly christianity.

True, but this story is about a muslim  doing something that is hypocritical to his religion. 

This thread led me to these thoughts:  To me, (extreme) muslims want the world to be a society straight outta like 3 centuries ago, hence their disgust with all things western.  I think they have that right in their countries to do whatever they want and live by their laws, but they wont look at the US in that way (hypocritical).

Any dime or penny we spend trying to placate these people or support another side to try and defeat them is a dime or penny wasted, theyre going to think what they think so fuck em.  What can they really do?  Invade us?  Take over the White House?  No way.  Theyre ass holes but not ass holes with any real capability. 

And before any liberal everything is relative person comes in here and reminds me of the crusades and christianitys checkered past (and present), I know I get it.  But we're talking about muslims here. 

nothing like making sweeping over-generalizations about other cultures to make u feel better about your own bullshit i suppose. again, why single out muslims. do you think there arent countless examples of christians or other religious people going against the things they.profess to believe in?
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: Russell Bell on October 16, 2011, 11:45:41 PM
Lol why single out muslims? U could say the same about most religions, particularly christianity.

True, but this story is about a muslim  doing something that is hypocritical to his religion. 

This thread led me to these thoughts:  To me, (extreme) muslims want the world to be a society straight outta like 3 centuries ago, hence their disgust with all things western.  I think they have that right in their countries to do whatever they want and live by their laws, but they wont look at the US in that way (hypocritical).

Any dime or penny we spend trying to placate these people or support another side to try and defeat them is a dime or penny wasted, theyre going to think what they think so fuck em.  What can they really do?  Invade us?  Take over the White House?  No way.  Theyre ass holes but not ass holes with any real capability. 

And before any liberal everything is relative person comes in here and reminds me of the crusades and christianitys checkered past (and present), I know I get it.  But we're talking about muslims here. 

nothing like making sweeping over-generalizations about other cultures to make u feel better about your own bullshit i suppose. again, why single out muslims. do you think there arent countless examples of christians or other religious people going against the things they.profess to believe in?

my own bullshit huh.  i dont need to compare anyones bullshit to my bullshit to feel better about my bullshit.  just an observation, with the admission that christianity and most religions have elements of hypocrisy, and muslims have their own too which is unique because of the overt prevalence of the religions influence on some of these countries governments.   

and yes, the US is influenced by religion, but not as much in the top down fashion as these countries.

or just read the last line in my last post, it answered you question too.
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: when it rains it pours on October 18, 2011, 12:40:52 PM
muslim people will get their feelings hurt, but fuck it. shit is ridiculous.
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: 2euce 7even on October 19, 2011, 01:52:54 AM
muslims = savages
simple az dat!!

not really.

cīmon man.. im 2 lazy 2 posts links and shit .. iīm right ... AND YOU KNOW THAT!(mac shawn voice)

Someone who's on a gang's dick like you shouldn't talk bout anyone. Or prove me wrong and find a minute or two in your busy life and post up some links that would support your stupid statement. I doubt you can.

im not on gangīs dick u fuckin cocksucka...

http://theync.com/search.php?search=muslim&go.x=0&go.y=0
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: bouli77 on October 19, 2011, 08:51:37 AM

dont get me wrong, there are good muslim people that are for world peace and and avoiding negativity-  but most of the muslim people are fuckheads, dont know their own religion.


If you want your opinion to be taken seriously you should think twice before writing out such obvious bullshit.





People who generalise entire nations, cultures or races = absolute cunts.
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: Mo Z. Dizzle on October 25, 2011, 09:59:33 PM
muslims = savages
simple az dat!!

not really.

cīmon man.. im 2 lazy 2 posts links and shit .. iīm right ... AND YOU KNOW THAT!(mac shawn voice)

Someone who's on a gang's dick like you shouldn't talk bout anyone. Or prove me wrong and find a minute or two in your busy life and post up some links that would support your stupid statement. I doubt you can.

im not on gangīs dick u fuckin cocksucka...

http://theync.com/search.php?search=muslim&go.x=0&go.y=0

You're going to post stuff like this as proof? Then you can post a bunch of other things 'proof' as well to make people of other religions seemed 'savages' as well.

I'm Muslim btw, and I'm still as regular as a cup of coffee. Its really boggles the mind that proper research isn't done before making a ridiculous statement.
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: Sikotic™ on October 25, 2011, 11:01:32 PM
What makes Islam any more or less ridiculous than Christianity?

What makes Islam any more or less legitimate than Christianity?
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: Fraxxx on October 25, 2011, 11:21:33 PM
muslims = savages
simple az dat!!

not really.

cīmon man.. im 2 lazy 2 posts links and shit .. iīm right ... AND YOU KNOW THAT!(mac shawn voice)

Someone who's on a gang's dick like you shouldn't talk bout anyone. Or prove me wrong and find a minute or two in your busy life and post up some links that would support your stupid statement. I doubt you can.

im not on gangīs dick u fuckin cocksucka...

http://theync.com/search.php?search=muslim&go.x=0&go.y=0

You're going to post stuff like this as proof? Then you can post a bunch of other things 'proof' as well to make people of other religions seemed 'savages' as well.

I'm Muslim btw, and I'm still as regular as a cup of coffee. Its really boggles the mind that proper research isn't done before making a ridiculous statement.

LOL Psychohustla posts a link to a site on which a propably christian guy gathers the most disgusting videos you could think of to illustrate that muslims are savages. Ironic.

Someone post up some good christian Latin American violence to PROVE that christians are animals...
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on December 13, 2011, 02:38:52 PM
The incident you speak of is an anomaly in Muslim countries.  I know of many converts to Islam that still have tatoo's from back in the day of crosses, crucifixes and the like.  These Muslims perform Hajj and travel within Muslim countries without incident. 

I agree that the Shariah can be a problem.  Islamic law was not formulated and legislated in the form we find it today, until around 200 years after the Prophet Muhammad, pbuh.  The Prophet's primary goal was to remind his people of their Creator.  He was blessed with inspiration from Allah, and thus he blessed the Ummmah (people) with the Qu'ran.

In the Qu'ran, Allah says, "alathe jaala al ardi farasha samaa abina nazala abina samaa akraja behee thamaratan rizqa tajala andada dunee Allah atum talamun".   -Reminding us that Allah sent made the Earth a resting place for us and the sky a canopy and sent down provision for us, so as not to become ungrateful and set up rivals to Allah.
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: TheRemedy360Ressurection on December 14, 2011, 12:52:33 PM
Religion is the true evil of the world. Always has been. People are too dumb to realize it.

This. Some people use religion for good, but it is the root of most evils in the world.
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 14, 2011, 11:15:43 PM
Religion is the true evil of the world. Always has been. People are too dumb to realize it.

This. Some people use religion for good, but it is the root of most evils in the world.
It's the most obvious method of subconscious mind control but its followers just refuse to see it and would rather live in a fantasy world.
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: OG Jaydc on December 15, 2011, 02:02:01 AM
Religion is the true evil of the world. Always has been. People are too dumb to realize it.

This. Some people use religion for good, but it is the root of most evils in the world.
It's the most obvious method of subconscious mind control but its followers just refuse to see it and would rather live in a fantasy world.

Sounds like the vows at your and queens wedding.
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: 2euce 7even on December 15, 2011, 04:48:52 AM
Religion is the true evil of the world. Always has been. People are too dumb to realize it.

This. Some people use religion for good, but it is the root of most evils in the world.

christian religion is not evil.prove me wrong.
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: bouli77 on December 15, 2011, 01:39:09 PM
Religion is the true evil of the world. Always has been. People are too dumb to realize it.

This. Some people use religion for good, but it is the root of most evils in the world.
It's the most obvious method of subconscious mind control but its followers just refuse to see it and would rather live in a fantasy world.

Sounds like the vows at your and queens wedding.

it's not religion per se which is evil, it's the political use of religion. the holy scriptures have been changed and used to justify the power of the few and maintain most people in ignorance, fear and servility. but if you look into the different religions individually and spiritually and you ponder over some of the moral principles, you might benefit from it. Roman Catholicism was as backwards as it gets. people were said what to do and think. bigotry was at its highest. they had no access to the scriptures because it was read by the priests in latin, when reformation churches spread from the 16th century on, the bible was translated and printed and it encouraged the personal reading of the bible. it actually fostered the development of scientific reasoning and people started interpreting the bible on their own. it's been very beneficial to countries like Britain, Germany, France (before they chased them down) and the colonies in America. but then again religion was used to instill fear in people's minds and control their actions. and that's what i can't stand about religion. the double standards, the hypocrisy, the bigotry.

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christian religion is not evil.prove me wrong.

lol the Christian religions have done a lot of wrong throughout the years, it's no different than other religions. anything man created is bound at some point or another to derive into violence, division, and chaos.

let me just give you some of the highlights :

1. the crusades
2. the justification of slavery : theorists used some passages of the holy scriptures to justify and maintain the slavery of black people
3. the Christian complicity in the Holocaust
4. the do what i say, not what i do syndrome : Popes having children and stuff
5. the Roman Catholic tradition of moleting children which have been overlooked for ages, and thus condoned by the Church officials.

shall I go on really ? these are only part of the tip of the iceberg.
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 27, 2014, 09:36:48 AM
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Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: KrazySumwhat on April 28, 2014, 12:26:13 AM
 This thread is real as fuck.
 Muslims so quick to expect you to change your ways for them, always complaining that things are offensive. And western nations are stupid as fuck. Politically correct all sensitive and compassionate and bending over backwards as to not offend anyone. Changing their own ways to suit these outsiders.
 Where as in a Muslim nation there are strict laws and rules that must be followed and if they are not they are met with harsh consequences.
 Its quite pathetic really and they really must laugh at us.
 hey if you go there they aint going to go out of their way to suit your needs and in a western nation they can openly admit that one day you will all be ruled and abide by sharia law.
 Plus its like they want one law for them and one law for everyone else. Wearing the burqa is no different to walking around wearing a balaclava  or somebody walking into a bank wearing a bike helmet or a mask. Potential security threat.
 Dont get me wrong, i have absolutely no problem with them having their beliefs, just dont expect us to change our way of life to suit you and stop acting like everyone discriminating and racist.
 Abide by the law, try to adapt to your new society at least a little, inter grade.
 Dont go to western nations and judge their ways, if you dont like it then fuck off. if we can live side by side and work together and contribute to society then thats great. if you dont want to drink alcohol or eat pork fine, but dont judge me for doing so in my own fucking country.

 But yes we cannot judge them all and fall for media tactics.

 Christianity? well one cant help but think of gay pedophile priests and the collection plate. Christians seem less judgmental and more tolerant, less extreme than many Muslims but i often associate them with madness.
 less violence but more abuse.
 Both take advantage of the weak and lost and unfortunate though, no doubt.
  iam a open person but double standards piss me off. I actually have alot of respect for Russian president Putin in this regard.
 

 
 
 
 
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: Fraxxx on April 28, 2014, 01:00:14 AM
Christians seem less judgmental and more tolerant, less extreme than many Muslims but i often associate them with madness.

That is not because of the peaceful character of the religion but because in the Age of Enlightenment western societies accomplished to drastically reduce the amount of influence the Church had then.
Oh, education and economical stability doesn't hurt either.
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: Aladin on April 28, 2014, 01:43:55 AM


That is not because of the peaceful character of the religion but because in the Age of Enlightenment western societies accomplished to drastically reduce the amount of influence the Church had then.
Oh, education and economical stability doesn't hurt either.

Hey Fraxxx,

Long time no see :)

Nice to see you back at TOT, you always made interesting contributions.
How is it hanging there In germany.... do you feel the heat of Ukraine? I think Merkel was wise not to follow the line of the other EU members regarding Russia.

@ all, ice cube should make a new song: Islam made me do it.
But seriously, those genuinely interested in geopolitics should read: A world without Islam by graham fuller
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: Sccit on April 28, 2014, 09:11:07 PM
krazy is like the donald sterling of muslims
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: KrazySumwhat on April 28, 2014, 10:48:24 PM
 dunno who that is but i'll google it later. And everything I said is the truth. I can only speak for Australia I guess though. Not all Muslims are bad but our politicians bend over backwards to appease half the time and you cant dare say anything bad about them. But this is for all immigrants, not just Muslim.
EDIT: and surely you cant denie the original claims of the OP.
 And yes I understand that in a democracy there is free speech but it still dose not make it right that they can demand you change your way of life to suit them in YOUR country.
 Again, I am not claiming they are all like this. But no other race/religions acts like that, its only Muslims.
 Of course all races have people that stick to their own kind and own ways and they have that right.
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: Fraxxx on June 22, 2014, 04:46:18 AM


That is not because of the peaceful character of the religion but because in the Age of Enlightenment western societies accomplished to drastically reduce the amount of influence the Church had then.
Oh, education and economical stability doesn't hurt either.

Hey Fraxxx,

Long time no see :)

Nice to see you back at TOT, you always made interesting contributions.
How is it hanging there In germany.... do you feel the heat of Ukraine? I think Merkel was wise not to follow the line of the other EU members regarding Russia.

@ all, ice cube should make a new song: Islam made me do it.
But seriously, those genuinely interested in geopolitics should read: A world without Islam by graham fuller

Didn't see your response back then. Good lookin out. Fuckin Ukraine... shit is depressing. Just look at Libya and Iraq, exactly what is needed to keeo Europe in line.
Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: blcxm on July 11, 2014, 09:19:39 AM
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Title: Re: muslims = hypocrits
Post by: Sami on July 19, 2014, 12:38:14 AM
That picture is hilarious!  ;D