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Title: Blaze's 50 Greatest MCs Ever!
Post by: Twentytwofifty on February 04, 2003, 01:47:34 PM
I'll post this since maybe some of y'all didn't come across or were award of it when it came out.  Blaze was a hip-hop mag which was off shoot of Vibe but I guess it just wasn't sucessful.  This is from the Feb 1999 issue so they probably put these lists together around Oct-Dec 1998.  I disagree with some stuff obviously, but overall I think it's a pretty good job.

Here you go...
Title: Re:Blaze's 50 Greatest MCs Ever!
Post by: Twentytwofifty on February 04, 2003, 01:50:01 PM
The Greatest MCs Ever

1. Rakim
2. KRS-One
3. Notorious B.I.G.
4. Big Daddy Kane
5. LL Cool J
6. Kool G Rap
7. 2Pac
8. Slick Rick
9. Jay-Z
10. Ice Cube
11. Grandmaster Caz (Cold Crush Brothers)
12. Chuck D
13. Run
14. Melle Mel (Furious Five)
15. Nas
16. Too Short
17. Kurtis Blow
18. Posdnuos (De La Soul)
19. Kool Moe Dee (Treacherous Three)
20. Redman
21. Lauryn Hill
22. Scarface
23. D.M.C.
24. Busy Bee
25. Q-Tip
26. Common
27. Raekwon
28. Gza
29. The D.O.C.
30. Kool Keith
31. Ice-T
32. Treach
33. Andre (Outkast)
34. Doug E. Fresh
35. Grand Puba (Brand Nubian)
36. Method Man
37. Snoop Dogg
38. Fresh Prince
39. Cee-Lo
40. Eazy-E
41. MC Lyte
42. Busta Rhymes
43. E-40
44. Biz Markie
45. Ras Kass
46. Schoolly D
47. Queen Latifah
48. Lord Finesse
49. MC Ren
50. Pharoahe Monch
Title: Re:Blaze's 50 Greatest MCs Ever!
Post by: S.G.V. on February 04, 2003, 01:58:08 PM
suprised to see Too Short so high...and suprised to see E-40 and Eazy on the list...what did they base it on?...do u know?
Title: Re:Blaze's 50 Greatest MCs Ever!
Post by: West Coast Veteran on February 04, 2003, 01:58:19 PM
I had that issue too. The list is pretty good. The Top 10 is almost perfect except I'd take Jigga out and put Chuck D up in there.

I found this article in the last Blaze issue and just thought y'all might find it interesting.

Blaze's 10 most influential albums of the 90's

1990 - M.C. Hammer - Please Hammer Don't Hurt 'Em
1991 - N.W.A. - EFIL4ZAGGIN
1991 - A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory
1992 - Dr. Dre - The Chronic
1993 - Wu-Tang Clan - Enter The Wu-Tang [36 Chambers]
1994 - OutKast - Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik
1995 - Fugees - The Score <----This was actually released in 1996
1996 - 2Pac - All Eyez On Me
1997 - The Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death
1998 - DMX - It's Dark And Hell Is Hot

There were reasons why these albums were picked but they're way too long to write.
Title: Re:Blaze's 50 Greatest MCs Ever!
Post by: Twentytwofifty on February 04, 2003, 02:00:23 PM
Future Of The Funk
We'll see y'all on the greatest lists in a few more years

1. Big Pun
2. Funkmaster Flex
3. Timbaland
4. Lil' Kim
5. Juvenile
6. Beats By The Pound
7. Cash Money Records
8. Silkk The Shocker
9. Mos Def
10. DJ Clue

The Greatest Producers Ever

1. Dr. Dre
2. Marley Marl
3. DJ Premier
4. Erick Sermon
5. Bomb Squad
6. Rick Rubin
7. Pete Rock
8. Prince Paul
9. Rza
10. Organized Noize

The Greatest Labels Ever

1. Def Jam
2. Death Row
3. Bad Boy
4. No Limit
5. Tommy Boy
6. Ruthless
7. Sugar Hill
8. Jive
9. Loud
10. Cold Chillin'

The Greatest Executives Ever

1. Russell Simmons
2. Puffy
3. Master P
4. Rza
5. Brian Turner (Priority)
6. Tom Silverman (Tommy Boy)
7. Chris Lighty (Violator)
8. Suge Knight
9. Eazy-E
10. Sylvia Robinson (Sugar Hill)

The Greatest Groups Ever

1. Run-D.M.C.
2. N.W.A.
3. Public Enemy
4. EPMD
5. Cold Crush Brothers
6. Wu-Tang Clan
7. A Tribe Called Quest
8. Treacherous Three
9. Furious Five
10. Salt-N-Pepa
Title: Re:Blaze's 50 Greatest MCs Ever!
Post by: Twentytwofifty on February 04, 2003, 02:06:29 PM
suprised to see Too Short so high...and suprised to see E-40 and Eazy on the list...what did they base it on?...do u know?

They said: 1. Skills 2. Impact 3. Consistency 4. Innovation 5. Longevity...and they explained what these mean too.

They also had a list called "Stop Playin': It was all-out war when these names came up for debate" and number 3...

E-40: Either he's hella nice or 'Yo what the hell's he saying?' In the end, 40-Fonzrelli made the list, to the disgust of some.
Title: Re:Blaze's 50 Greatest MCs Ever!
Post by: Young Dan Iza on February 04, 2003, 03:44:27 PM
2Pac at number 7!!!!! thats why blaze magazine isnt around anymore
Title: Re:Blaze's 50 Greatest MCs Ever!
Post by: smartass on February 04, 2003, 04:10:55 PM
god it pisses me off how people can put biggie on a list but leave off l. bullshit!
Title: Re:Blaze's 50 Greatest MCs Ever!
Post by: PLANT on February 04, 2003, 04:15:10 PM
I didnt realize that things have changed that much since 1998.
Title: Re:Blaze's 50 Greatest MCs Ever!
Post by: Twentytwofifty on February 04, 2003, 04:50:08 PM
god it pisses me off how people can put biggie on a list but leave off l. bullshit

If "l" means Big L, what do you expect?  He wasn't dead yet and had only dropped one basically unheard album.

2Pac at number 7!!!!! thats why blaze magazine isnt around anymore

They said: "We're already bracing ourselves for the death threats that will come because he's not No.1."
Title: Re:Blaze's 50 Greatest MCs Ever!
Post by: smartass on February 04, 2003, 05:01:56 PM
god it pisses me off how people can put biggie on a list but leave off l. bullshit

If "l" means Big L, what do you expect?  He wasn't dead yet and had only dropped one basically unheard album.

you make it sound like he was over-rated? hes one of the few dead rappers who deserves all the props he gets..
Title: Re:Blaze's 50 Greatest MCs Ever!
Post by: Twentytwofifty on February 04, 2003, 05:34:32 PM
Did you actually expect anyone to put Big L in the top 50 ever at the end of 1998, let alone up with Biggie?

Had had made no impact at all compared to the other 50 and had no longevity with only one album.
Title: Re:Blaze's 50 Greatest MCs Ever!
Post by: smartass on February 04, 2003, 06:45:37 PM
Did you actually expect anyone to put Big L in the top 50 ever at the end of 1998, let alone up with Biggie?

Had had made no impact at all compared to the other 50 and had no longevity with only one album.

last time i checked biggie only put out one album before his death as well. no impact? if i remember correctly he started the horrocore genre with devils son. not to mention the countless number of rappers biting his style off lifestylez...
Title: Re:Blaze's 50 Greatest MCs Ever!
Post by: S.G.V. on February 04, 2003, 07:08:18 PM

They said: 1. Skills 2. Impact 3. Consistency 4. Innovation 5. Longevity...and they explained what these mean too.

They also had a list called "Stop Playin': It was all-out war when these names came up for debate" and number 3...

E-40: Either he's hella nice or 'Yo what the hell's he saying?' In the end, 40-Fonzrelli made the list, to the disgust of some.

as big of an E-40 fan as i am...im shocked...hes got alotta impact, consistency, def. innovation and longevity...wow..its good to see others recognize E-40...but yea Big L shoulda been on that list...he influenced peeps like...McGruff, Mase, Cam'Ron, Stan Spit, Fabolous etc...he was a very key player...tho i dont think he created Horrocore...Esham had been doin it before him...
Title: Re:Blaze's 50 Greatest MCs Ever!
Post by: ImmortalOne on February 04, 2003, 09:16:56 PM
I disagree with alot of their choices for "most influential albums of the 90's"......

this is my list, in no specific order:

The Chronic
Illmatic
All Eyez On Me
Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
E.1999 Eternal
Death Certificate
Ready To Die
36 Chambers
Fear Of A Black Planet
Southernplayalistic

^^^^In my opinion, those are the 10 most influenital hip hop albums of the 90's........
Title: Re:Blaze's 50 Greatest MCs Ever!
Post by: Twentytwofifty on February 04, 2003, 11:27:09 PM
last time i checked biggie only put out one album before his death as well

Yes, then Life After Death in 1997.  This list was made at the end of 1998.

no impact? if i remember correctly he started the horrocore genre with devils son. not to mention the countless number of rappers biting his style off lifestylez...

I don't know about that.  But the fact is, at the end of '98 Big L was basically unknown.  He had one album in 1995, I don't know if I see another emcee on that list that only had one album.
Title: Re:Blaze's 50 Greatest MCs Ever!
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on February 05, 2003, 02:28:45 AM
Although I don't agree with their list of the top 50 MC's overall I was happy to see Treach mentioned, I feel he's pretty underrated. Also, I can't believe they didn't mention Nas' "Illmatic" as one of the most influential albums of the 90's  :o And if they're gonna mention Biggie in that list they should of listed "Ready to Die"!!
Title: Re:Blaze's 50 Greatest MCs Ever!
Post by: West Coast Veteran on February 05, 2003, 10:28:21 AM
I was happy to see Treach mentioned, I feel he's pretty underrated.

Word! Naughty By Nature is underrated as fuck. So many classic joints and Treach had one of the illest flows.
Title: Re:Blaze's 50 Greatest MCs Ever!
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on February 05, 2003, 11:32:10 AM
Yeah, that was a pretty good list, much better than that top 100 dopest mc's that BET did a couple of years back.
Title: Re:Blaze's 50 Greatest MCs Ever!
Post by: Entreri117 on February 05, 2003, 12:27:41 PM
That magazine is retarded...

Theres no fucking way that Biz Markie or E-40 are better than Rass Kass....