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Title: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: V2DHeart on April 16, 2012, 11:57:09 AM
The story goes that in 1912 the Titanic struck an unseen iceberg and sunk to its death killing many people in the process.

Another theory is that among board the 1st class were some of the wealthiest and influencial Americans set to arrive on U.S soil to protest against the creation of the federal reserve that followed a year later. Some were also to meet with presidential  associates directly to argue against the fed. Note that some of those were very high up the food chain,even above the presidents level  and had potential power to change the decision of it being set up.

In order to prevent this happening it, the believe the ship was either torpedod, or planted with an explosive

Anyone heard this theory?
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: BG Dresta on April 16, 2012, 12:12:26 PM
hmm...interesting..i always thought that the titanic hitting an ice burg was kinda sketchy..

would be interesting if there was some truth to it..doesnt the federal reserve bank control the u.s.?
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: V2DHeart on April 16, 2012, 12:52:22 PM
Yeh they control the U.S. if JFK was taken out by attempting to go against the fed,then this theory cant be that innacurate

It was in the middle of nowhere, figuratively speaking
There were lots of laboured workers on both the titanic and olympic making it easy to tamper with
No one recalls seeing the boat strike the ice berg
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: BG Dresta on April 16, 2012, 01:29:00 PM
yea..seems like another one of those theories that sound more real than the story that everyone knows. and of course everybody seen the movie so it would be harder to convince a simple minded person into believing this.

i think this will be another theory that ppl arent gonna pay much attention too, like vietnam, u.s. had said it was a pre planned and everything..same with all the 9-eleven stories..i wouldnt be surprised if pearl harbor was all planned.
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: Your favorite posters favorite poster on April 16, 2012, 05:20:22 PM
The TOT fell off HARD
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: Sikotic™ on April 16, 2012, 06:09:02 PM
Swear to God, there's a conspiracy theory for everything.
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: BG Dresta on April 16, 2012, 06:53:50 PM
^ 2 sides to every story.
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: Hood Crawler on April 16, 2012, 10:03:40 PM
There are conspiracy theories for everything.  I've never heard this one before.  Makes sense.  You'd think after all these years and so many documentaries on the whole thing that it would come out. 
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: V2DHeart on April 17, 2012, 02:14:22 AM
Here's reasons why I believe the Titanic was intentionally set up to be destroyed before it set sail.
J.P Morgan, one of the people behind the creation of Federal Reserve in the U.S in 1913 was among many other high profile, and very wealthy people invited to be on board the Titanic, however at the last minute, he refused, and never boarded the Titanic.

However, there were other very wealthy and important individuals on board. 3 of which were opposed to the federal Reserve model and would travel to New York to protest, and put their money, influence and power behind any candidate or anyone in government also opposed to it, including the president, to help stop the introduction of the Federal Reserve institution. Why did they oppose it? Because they knew what it was all about. They knew about inflation. They knew some of their huge fortunes would be in jeopardy. They also knew that there were plans ahead to ignite a global war, and push the country's financial situation into chaos as soon as it was set up. (note: the fed was brought in, in 1913. World war 1 began in 1914)

How could they mastermind such an act to get rid of these 3 who stood in the way? Well, the blueprint was already available to the people behind the sinking of the Titanic, in the form of a fictional book published years prior (in like 1896) called "Wreck of the Titan".. Now before I talk about what the book is about, take a note of the eerie similarities to it, and the sinking of the Titanic.

The name of the ship in the book was called "The Titan" first of all
In the book it was to built as a luxury liner, and was the largest ship in the world, same as titanic
The look of the ship in the book is Identical to the Titanic
The number of passengers on board on the Titan was 3000 - The same number on the titanic
The ship in the book didn't carry enough life boats, and was a deliberate flaw to preserve the look. Like Titanic
The Ship in the book steamed ahead at full speeds before striking a large ice berg - in the North ATLANTIC OCEAN!!!

Coincidence? I think not. This book was one of many tools used to plan the deaths of these 3 powerful individuals, and to prevent influential and significant protest against the federal Reserve.

For those who don't know about the book. Take a look at the cover and tell me that this isn't the Titanic all over?

(http://ia600804.us.archive.org/zipview.php?zip=/20/items/olcovers40/olcovers40-L.zip&file=403859-L.jpg)

Above is the picture/art work from that time. However, shortly after the Titanic disaster, the book was re-issued with new artwork, an entirely different "boat", and different details.
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: morbidenigma on April 17, 2012, 12:24:46 PM
the titanic wasn't hit by an iceberg, that all lies, Mossad took it out, so zionists could achieve global domination !
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: V2DHeart on April 17, 2012, 01:11:35 PM
John Jacob Astor VI, one of the 3 powerful passengers set to go against the Federal Reserve who died on the Titanic, was said to have an estate over $100 million, which in todays money would be worth over $2,461,367,055.00.. You also have to take into account that over 90% decline of the purchasing power of the dollar today as well so back in 1900, over $100 million was mammoth. His father also had numerous trust funds, and accounts with many millions as well.. The Astor family were very high up. These 3 below had to be stopped in order for the Federal Reserve to go ahead. All 3 were probably thee richest on board, yet all died despite plenty of other 1st class men surviving.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c4/John_Jacob_Astor_IVb.jpg/220px-John_Jacob_Astor_IVb.jpg) (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/BGuggenheim.jpg/220px-BGuggenheim.jpg) (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Isidor_Straus_1903.jpg/220px-Isidor_Straus_1903.jpg)


This other man also had to be stopped (or put out of power) The current US President at the time:

(http://www.aaronhouseholder.net/storage/President%20Taft.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1330542859995)

As soon as his presidency term was up, and Woodrow Wilson became president, a man who the three men above did not want into power - and was subsequently use their wealth and power to ensure he wouldn't, went on to pass the Federal Reserve act, and Federal Trade act. From there on out, only one man with enough power to change has attempted to oppose the Federal Reserve:

(http://www.joeprguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/JFK.jpg)

People think the Titanic theory of the Federal Reserve being behind it ludicrous, but it's the most believable and rational explanation than the official reason, or any other one out there

Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: bouli77 on April 18, 2012, 08:33:33 AM
i didn't know about the wealthiest bankers being on it... but I did know about the troubling resemblances with the 1890's novel... and frankly it's very intriguing when you add the information that V2DHeart just provided... I read a book, not translated into English unfortunately, that dealt with all these signs throughout history, 9/11, the titanic...). it was a fiction book but the facts provided were real, and one of the "illuminatis" (they weren't called illuminatis but you get the idea) in the novel was basically saying that they loved to play with signs and symbols and their game is to make things happen in a particular way at a particular time just to "play" with history pretty much . not saying that i'm positive 9/11 & the titanic were conspiracies but a lot of facts are very very disturbing.
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 18, 2012, 10:15:04 AM
I feel like this is just pulled out of someone's ass. if this had ANY legitimate claim, then it would have been talked about. All kinds of things have been brought up over the years, NEVER the Titanic.

I think it's time to rename ToT to the conspiracy corner or something. Under me being mod here, this place has fallen off hard. I have no one to blame but myself. The Illuminati won.
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: V2DHeart on April 18, 2012, 12:59:27 PM
What's so hard to believe? 3 powerful men set to ruin the chance of the Federal Reserve being set up, all die in a strange sea disaster where a large ship controlled by one of the best and most experienced captains sinks after striking an ice berg, despite several warnings being ignored, the lack of life boats, the lookouts not being supplied binoculars . Everything about the Titanic is suspicious, yet people just take the story of it tragically hitting the iceberg and get confused with the love story/movie
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: virtuoso on April 19, 2012, 01:45:08 PM

I have never ventured into this before, but obviously one of the main reasons it hasn't been greatly explored is because unlike other events it has 2 things which diminish it's interest for people, firstly, unlike other conspiracy's like 911 it wasn't used as a catalyst for war and secondly, it prior to 1900. Therefore most people see no significance with it either but since I know nothing about this, then for now I really can't comment.
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 19, 2012, 02:28:50 PM

I have never ventured into this before, but obviously one of the main reasons it hasn't been greatly explored is because unlike other events it has 2 things which diminish it's interest for people, firstly, unlike other conspiracy's like 911 it wasn't used as a catalyst for war and secondly, it prior to 1900. Therefore most people see no significance with it either but since I know nothing about this, then for now I really can't comment.

I agree that it's timing would make hard to look at for people, though it happened in 1912, not before 1900. But the thing is that even then we had conspiracy theories. People were very suspect on the overthrow of Hawaii for instance, which was 1894, The Tuskegee Experiment was a conspiracy theory as in the 1930's doctors gave African Americans syphilis to experiment for curses. These were all conspiracy theories that were proven right over time, and now are part of history, though back then they were only conspiracy theories. No one ever mentioned the Titanic as a conspiracy theory.
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on April 19, 2012, 03:37:05 PM
If you could prove that these highly wealthy people, planning to try to put a stop to the creation of the Federal Reserve, I'd believe it. Otherwise, it's just some nonsense.
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: V2DHeart on April 19, 2012, 05:23:35 PM
It's out there. Also, the author to that book (wreck of the Titan - which is almost identical to Titanic) was found dead in a hotel room with a drugs overdose a couple of years after the Titanic sank.

The whole thing is just fishy (no pun intended)
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: MistaNova on April 19, 2012, 05:45:34 PM
Hmmm, I forgot that it's been 100 years since the Titanic sank.
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: jeromechickenbone on April 19, 2012, 06:14:33 PM
First great false flag of the 20th century. Lots of extremely important people died on "the unsinkable ship", and yes they were opponents of the federal reserve. There was no other captain in the world better acquainted with the route the titanic took than it's captain. He knew the waters like the back of his hand. They used the wrong color signal flares which signaled they were ok, rather than SOS, not even remotely enough life boats, and the kicker being that it likely wasn't the titanic that sank, but a different boat all together.

Yeah and I know it sucks to think that this is a conspiracy...I got news for ya, these things go back hundreds of years earlier, hate to burst your bubble.
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: MUHFUKKA on April 19, 2012, 06:42:56 PM
i knew the jews were behind it!! then the jewish media made a blockbuster movie about it to brainwash the public and generate money to fund their zionist organized government. im on to them
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: jeromechickenbone on April 19, 2012, 09:11:51 PM
i knew the jews were behind it!! then the jewish media made a blockbuster movie about it to brainwash the public and generate money to fund their zionist organized government. im on to them

The blockbuster movie is an integral part of the brainwashing of the masses to the official story.
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on April 19, 2012, 09:34:07 PM
John Jacob Astor VI, one of the 3 powerful passengers set to go against the Federal Reserve who died on the Titanic, was said to have an estate over $100 million, which in todays money would be worth over $2,461,367,055.00.. You also have to take into account that over 90% decline of the purchasing power of the dollar today as well so back in 1900, over $100 million was mammoth. His father also had numerous trust funds, and accounts with many millions as well.. The Astor family were very high up. These 3 below had to be stopped in order for the Federal Reserve to go ahead. All 3 were probably thee richest on board, yet all died despite plenty of other 1st class men surviving.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c4/John_Jacob_Astor_IVb.jpg/220px-John_Jacob_Astor_IVb.jpg) (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/BGuggenheim.jpg/220px-BGuggenheim.jpg) (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Isidor_Straus_1903.jpg/220px-Isidor_Straus_1903.jpg)


This other man also had to be stopped (or put out of power) The current US President at the time:

(http://www.aaronhouseholder.net/storage/President%20Taft.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1330542859995)

As soon as his presidency term was up, and Woodrow Wilson became president, a man who the three men above did not want into power - and was subsequently use their wealth and power to ensure he wouldn't, went on to pass the Federal Reserve act, and Federal Trade act. From there on out, only one man with enough power to change has attempted to oppose the Federal Reserve:

(http://www.joeprguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/JFK.jpg)

People think the Titanic theory of the Federal Reserve being behind it ludicrous, but it's the most believable and rational explanation than the official reason, or any other one out there




why did u type all this?

conspiracy theories etc
why do u care so much about somethin taht happend a 100 years ago..?
i dont understand
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: jeromechickenbone on April 20, 2012, 12:54:35 PM
John Jacob Astor VI, one of the 3 powerful passengers set to go against the Federal Reserve who died on the Titanic, was said to have an estate over $100 million, which in todays money would be worth over $2,461,367,055.00.. You also have to take into account that over 90% decline of the purchasing power of the dollar today as well so back in 1900, over $100 million was mammoth. His father also had numerous trust funds, and accounts with many millions as well.. The Astor family were very high up. These 3 below had to be stopped in order for the Federal Reserve to go ahead. All 3 were probably thee richest on board, yet all died despite plenty of other 1st class men surviving.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c4/John_Jacob_Astor_IVb.jpg/220px-John_Jacob_Astor_IVb.jpg) (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/BGuggenheim.jpg/220px-BGuggenheim.jpg) (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Isidor_Straus_1903.jpg/220px-Isidor_Straus_1903.jpg)


This other man also had to be stopped (or put out of power) The current US President at the time:

(http://www.aaronhouseholder.net/storage/President%20Taft.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1330542859995)

As soon as his presidency term was up, and Woodrow Wilson became president, a man who the three men above did not want into power - and was subsequently use their wealth and power to ensure he wouldn't, went on to pass the Federal Reserve act, and Federal Trade act. From there on out, only one man with enough power to change has attempted to oppose the Federal Reserve:

(http://www.joeprguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/JFK.jpg)

People think the Titanic theory of the Federal Reserve being behind it ludicrous, but it's the most believable and rational explanation than the official reason, or any other one out there




why did u type all this?

conspiracy theories etc
why do u care so much about somethin taht happend a 100 years ago..?
i dont understand

You have much to learn grasshopper.
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on April 20, 2012, 01:03:08 PM
"Titanic" was a good movie, i like teh scenes wit Leo & Kate, so romantic
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: V2DHeart on April 26, 2012, 12:06:14 PM
"Titanic" was a good movie, i like teh scenes wit Leo & Kate, so romantic

Romantic indeed. Crying a lot at the end?  :D

Another interesting fact about the Titanic was that J.P Morgan owned the company that owned White Star Line IE: the company behind the Titanic, and he refused to set sail on the ship. It was built as a tomb for those 3 people

I don't know why they haven't rebuilt a similar ship in this day and age with the available blue prints and designs. It would make a killing
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: LIGHTS_444 on May 13, 2012, 05:44:32 PM
very interesting post....
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on June 15, 2012, 10:17:13 PM
"Titanic" was a good movie, i like teh scenes wit Leo & Kate, so romantic

Romantic indeed. Crying a lot at the end?  :D


first time i watched it, i think i did
Title: Re: Titanic: sunk or bombed by banking cartel?
Post by: LIGHTS_444 on June 18, 2012, 10:11:51 AM
awww