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Title: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: donfathaimmortal on May 04, 2012, 01:38:04 PM
Tha Don Fatha sayz :

Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag"

Release Date : July, 3rd
WIDEawake Death Row Ent.



CONFIRMED TRACKS :

"Every Single Day" OG (feat. Snoop Doggy Dogg & Nate Dogg)
"Runnin Fo The Fence" OG (feat. Nate Dogg, Michel'le & Warren G)
"Like Dis"
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Will_B on May 04, 2012, 01:41:04 PM
Tha Don Fatha sayz :

Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag"

Release Date : June, 19
WIDEawake Death Row Ent.


OG Will_B sayz:


Nice. But more info please. 8)
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Westcoast Pig on May 04, 2012, 01:44:17 PM
Tha Don Fatha sayz :


god your a nerd referring to yourself like that
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: OG Snoopaveli on May 04, 2012, 01:53:08 PM
on my birthday!!! wideawake, don't fuck this one !!!!
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: tha kid2012 on May 04, 2012, 02:01:38 PM
i hope they pleeeease include kurupt's "i dont bang no more". i can just imagine that shit in cdq, damn
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Will_B on May 04, 2012, 02:04:51 PM
i hope they pleeeease include kurupt's "i dont bang no more". i can just imagine that shit in cdq, damn

Would be :o
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: kuruptDPG on May 04, 2012, 02:13:18 PM
man i thought ther would be a confirmed tracklist...man need more info
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: SoCo on May 04, 2012, 02:27:28 PM
I read over on the Death Row forums that they couldn't find the DPG version of Can't C Me. I hope that's not true cause that's one of the songs I was looking forward to hearin in CDQ
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Giesuz on May 04, 2012, 03:06:49 PM
that they couldn't find the DPG version of Can't C Me. I hope that's not true cause that's one of the songs I was looking forward to hearin in CDQ

+1  :o
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Sir Petey on May 04, 2012, 03:33:28 PM
i bet this sounds like shit.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: dubsmith_nz on May 04, 2012, 05:22:25 PM
If they do this right ill buy it, hopes aren't high though
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Mak_Corleone on May 04, 2012, 05:25:58 PM
I don't think Can't C Me (DPG Version) could've been released anw, it's Produced By Dr. Dre
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Quadruple OG on May 04, 2012, 06:12:51 PM
I don't think Can't C Me (DPG Version) could've been released anw, it's Produced By Dr. Dre

"Doggystyle" was produced by Dre and they dropped it on Lost Sessions.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Invincible on May 04, 2012, 06:25:53 PM
I don't think Can't C Me (DPG Version) could've been released anw, it's Produced By Dr. Dre

I think its only vocals that Dre doesn't want released on any Wide Awake release.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Black Excellence on May 04, 2012, 06:43:52 PM
If they do this right ill buy it, hopes aren't high though
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Mr.Smurf on May 04, 2012, 09:25:02 PM
Why is anyone putting CDQ and wideawake in the same senate? Everyone knows those two will never mix!
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Jimmy H. on May 04, 2012, 09:42:26 PM
Why is anyone putting CDQ and wideawake in the same senate? Everyone knows those two will never mix!
You beat me to the punch. That's all I could think of when I saw people writing that.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Funkstradamus on May 04, 2012, 11:06:14 PM
its sad how bad they have destroyed their reputation by ignoring the fans and releasing shitty quality release after shitty quality release...especially after all the hype and promises they made...who buys a company with a specific fan base and then completely ignores that fan base in this social media era we live in?   when you have the fans telling you specifically what they want on any fan board on the net? they are almost as bad running this company as Suge....
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: doggfather on May 04, 2012, 11:08:16 PM
If they do this right ill buy it, hopes aren't high though
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: GangstaBoogy on May 04, 2012, 11:31:35 PM
Why is anyone putting CDQ and wideawake in the same senate? Everyone knows those two will never mix!

Just what I was gonna say. They released "Doggystyle" and that shit damn sure wasn't cdq.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: doggfather on May 04, 2012, 11:58:25 PM
it's gonna be june, tracklist or whatever?!
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Mietek23 on May 05, 2012, 01:32:11 AM
its sad how bad they have destroyed their reputation by ignoring the fans and releasing shitty quality release after shitty quality release...especially after all the hype and promises they made...who buys a company with a specific fan base and then completely ignores that fan base in this social media era we live in?   when you have the fans telling you specifically what they want on any fan board on the net? they are almost as bad running this company as Suge....

Say what you say about Suge, but he cared about the quality of Death Row releases. That's why you got so much unreleased stuff in the vault... Suge did a lot of things wrong, but you can't put that on him - he would NEVER release some shitty albums WideAwake have put out, like that Kurupt CD which was a complete JOKE etc.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: BigNeckBone on May 05, 2012, 02:15:44 AM
its sad how bad they have destroyed their reputation by ignoring the fans and releasing shitty quality release after shitty quality release...especially after all the hype and promises they made...who buys a company with a specific fan base and then completely ignores that fan base in this social media era we live in?   when you have the fans telling you specifically what they want on any fan board on the net? they are almost as bad running this company as Suge....

Say what you say about Suge, but he cared about the quality of Death Row releases. That's why you got so much unreleased stuff in the vault... Suge did a lot of things wrong, but you can't put that on him - he would NEVER release some shitty albums WideAwake have put out, like that Kurupt CD which was a complete JOKE etc.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Will_B on May 05, 2012, 02:26:25 AM
its sad how bad they have destroyed their reputation by ignoring the fans and releasing shitty quality release after shitty quality release...especially after all the hype and promises they made...who buys a company with a specific fan base and then completely ignores that fan base in this social media era we live in?   when you have the fans telling you specifically what they want on any fan board on the net? they are almost as bad running this company as Suge....

Say what you say about Suge, but he cared about the quality of Death Row releases. That's why you got so much unreleased stuff in the vault... Suge did a lot of things wrong, but you can't put that on him - he would NEVER release some shitty albums WideAwake have put out, like that Kurupt CD which was a complete JOKE etc.

If they'd just reissued Against the Grain retail version with a bonus disc of leftovers in decent quality I'd have bought it.

That compilation wasn't worth a penny
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: doggfather on May 05, 2012, 03:07:47 AM
forget that against tha grain, please, that album already have 4 version at least.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Okka on May 05, 2012, 03:46:38 AM
No tracklist? Would be dope to have these on this release.

"Every Single Day" (Original Version) (feat. Snoop Dogg & Nate Dogg)
"Just Doggin" (feat. Nate Dogg)
"Me In Your World"
"Niggaz Don't Give A Fuck" (feat. Snoop Dogg & The Lady Of Rage)
"Nuthin' But The Cavi Hit" (feat. Mack 10)
"Nuthin' But The Cavi Hit" (Soopafly Remix) (feat. Mack 10)
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Post by: JohnnyL on May 05, 2012, 03:49:56 AM
It would be nice if "Every Single Day" (OG) was put on here in at least near CDQ.  They were originally going to put that on the Snoop Dogg "Lost Sessions"  album, but took it off for some reason. I guess we'll see.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: bouli77 on May 05, 2012, 05:34:21 AM
No tracklist? Would be dope to have these on this release.
"Just Doggin" (feat. Nate Dogg)
"Me In Your World"
"Niggaz Don't Give A Fuck" (feat. Snoop Dogg & The Lady Of Rage)
"Nuthin' But The Cavi Hit" (feat. Mack 10)
"Nuthin' But The Cavi Hit" (Soopafly Remix) (feat. Mack 10)

i'd rather hear previously unreleased material rather than these songs that have all been released (except the original version of every single day)
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Quadruple OG on May 05, 2012, 06:33:04 AM
Over/Under on the percentage of songs they put on this cd that have already been released in some form?

75%?
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Mietek23 on May 05, 2012, 07:44:18 AM
No tracklist? Would be dope to have these on this release.

"Every Single Day" (Original Version) (feat. Snoop Dogg & Nate Dogg)

That one is extremely overrated but I agree, it would be cool if they featured that version on the CD. I ain't expected it to happen tho.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Giesuz on May 05, 2012, 08:18:45 AM
No tracklist? Would be dope to have these on this release.

"Every Single Day" (Original Version) (feat. Snoop Dogg & Nate Dogg)

That one is extremely overrated but I agree, it would be cool if they featured that version on the CD. I ain't expected it to happen tho.

Admin @ drforum confirmed that it will be on the WA album
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Efrain on May 05, 2012, 08:24:34 AM
No matter what itís going to be garbage. Even if they do have the original version of Every Single Day itís going to sound just as bad as the original version of ďOGĒ on lost sessions did; unmixed, unmastered, and no post production to bring the track up to par. The version on Lost Sessions compared to Retaliation Revenge and Get Back is NIGHT AND DAY. Weíll never see that level of quality from these people.

Think about the version of Every Single Day on Dogg Pound 2002, Death Row brought people in to put the finishing touches on that track to make it retail release worthy: that chick singing the hook, the guitar riff, that background dude doing vocals, the track was mixed (vocals were a little too low), Brian Gardner mastered the albumóthatís what needs to be done for every song. They need project coordinators bringing in musicians and producers and mixing engineers to bring these tracks up to par.

Wide Asleepís idea of post production is that fat hack John Payne throwing an old DAT tape in the oven of his dirty ass house, baking it for 5 minutes, then sending Robert Thompson-So an invoice for $20k and calling it a day. 

Itís so infuriating I canít even stand it. 
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: RoscoeOutlaw on May 05, 2012, 08:29:09 AM
cant wait to see the tracklist!
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on May 05, 2012, 08:44:51 AM
Will errupted and drowned this thread wit his semen.
yuck


Wide Asleepís idea of post production is that fat hack John Payne throwing an old DAT tape in the oven of his dirty ass house, baking it for 5 minutes, then sending Robert Thompson-So an invoice for $20k and calling it a day.  

Itís so infuriating I canít even stand it.  


its not really that important
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Efrain on May 05, 2012, 08:48:22 AM

Wide Asleepís idea of post production is that fat hack John Payne throwing an old DAT tape in the oven of his dirty ass house, baking it for 5 minutes, then sending Robert Thompson-So an invoice for $20k and calling it a day. 

Itís so infuriating I canít even stand it. 


its not really that important


What isn't that important? Properly preparing an album for release? I don't understand your comment. 
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on May 05, 2012, 08:52:28 AM
it shouldnt "infuriate" you. its just old music from the 90's.
be glad that u can get a chance to hear it  :)
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Efrain on May 05, 2012, 09:10:46 AM
it shouldnt "infuriate" you. its just old music from the 90's.
be glad that u can get a chance to hear it  :)

We've already "heard it".. on bootlegs.

Now the owners are releasing the music and charging for it... expecting us to pay for it.

but the releases sound like shit. If someone expects me to buy something that sounds like shit for the price of a similar CD that doesn't, it's insulting.


You can mock me if you want, but when people care and are outspoken and passionate about things other people tend to notice. It's the people who don't really care and take what they can get from WIDEAsleep that keep these bullshit releases coming.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Cordozzar Drakko on May 05, 2012, 09:20:47 AM
its sad how bad they have destroyed their reputation by ignoring the fans and releasing shitty quality release after shitty quality release...especially after all the hype and promises they made...who buys a company with a specific fan base and then completely ignores that fan base in this social media era we live in?   when you have the fans telling you specifically what they want on any fan board on the net? they are almost as bad running this company as Suge....

Say what you say about Suge, but he cared about the quality of Death Row releases. That's why you got so much unreleased stuff in the vault... Suge did a lot of things wrong, but you can't put that on him - he would NEVER release some shitty albums WideAwake have put out, like that Kurupt CD which was a complete JOKE etc.

& Suge knew what the fans wanted. Vredit gots to be given where credit is due. & he did recognize talent when he saw it. If only he had put out the albums of Crooked I & Eastwood after Kurupt's, (& possibly YA's too) he could have added a few more solid bricks to the Death Row edifice...

Anyway, it's always nice to get some vintage DPG if you ask me. Hopefully it just isn't some lousy put together compilation between "Dogg Food" & "2002" 'which was a great album by the way) with only 1 or 2 added tracks!
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on May 05, 2012, 09:22:30 AM
About time, no doubt it won't reach peoples expectations
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on May 05, 2012, 09:26:09 AM
it shouldnt "infuriate" you. its just old music from the 90's.
be glad that u can get a chance to hear it  :)

We've already "heard it".. on bootlegs.

Now the owners are releasing the music and charging for it... expecting us to pay for it.

but the releases sound like shit. If someone expects me to buy something that sounds like shit for the price of a similar CD that doesn't, it's insulting.


You can mock me if you want, but when people care and are outspoken and passionate about things other people tend to notice. It's the people who don't really care and take what they can get from WIDEAsleep that keep these bullshit releases coming.



i dont really care if i dont get it in highsurround/LucasArts 6799kbs format. some of you are whining and complainin like stuck-up 13 year old school girls, judging teenage-boys based on physical characteristics.

the only thing i dont like, is that they tend to recycle music that we've already heard through leaks (which shows that they dont really know what they are doin at all times), but at least we get new bits n pieces here & there, and i can aprecaite that (as should you).. just my opinion
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Portugoal on May 05, 2012, 10:25:41 AM
No matter what itís going to be garbage. Even if they do have the original version of Every Single Day itís going to sound just as bad as the original version of ďOGĒ on lost sessions did; unmixed, unmastered, and no post production to bring the track up to par. The version on Lost Sessions compared to Retaliation Revenge and Get Back is NIGHT AND DAY. Weíll never see that level of quality from these people.

Think about the version of Every Single Day on Dogg Pound 2002, Death Row brought people in to put the finishing touches on that track to make it retail release worthy: that chick singing the hook, the guitar riff, that background dude doing vocals, the track was mixed (vocals were a little too low), Brian Gardner mastered the albumóthatís what needs to be done for every song. They need project coordinators bringing in musicians and producers and mixing engineers to bring these tracks up to par.

Wide Asleepís idea of post production is that fat hack John Payne throwing an old DAT tape in the oven of his dirty ass house, baking it for 5 minutes, then sending Robert Thompson-So an invoice for $20k and calling it a day. 

Itís so infuriating I canít even stand it. 


Calm down. You only have one heart.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Giesuz on May 05, 2012, 10:38:19 AM
it shouldnt "infuriate" you. its just old music from the 90's.
be glad that u can get a chance to hear it  :)

We've already "heard it".. on bootlegs.

Now the owners are releasing the music and charging for it... expecting us to pay for it.

but the releases sound like shit. If someone expects me to buy something that sounds like shit for the price of a similar CD that doesn't, it's insulting.


You can mock me if you want, but when people care and are outspoken and passionate about things other people tend to notice. It's the people who don't really care and take what they can get from WIDEAsleep that keep these bullshit releases coming.



i dont really care if i dont get it in highsurround/LucasArts 6799kbs format. some of you are whining and complainin like stuck-up 13 year old school girls, judging teenage-boys based on physical characteristics.

the only thing i dont like, is that they tend to recycle music that we've already heard through leaks (which shows that they dont really know what they are doin at all times), but at least we get new bits n pieces here & there, and i can aprecaite that (as should you).. just my opinion


you are right and i appreciate that we get the chance to hear some stuff out the vault. The main problem is that they could do it better easily but they fail from release to release. I have bought every release and i will continue to do but it ain't easy when you see see that a misleaded company did not listen to the handful of supports left.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Cordozzar Drakko on May 05, 2012, 10:52:17 AM
Thing also is, the more time goes by, the less never-heard before gems & diamonds there are left to discover.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: tha kid2012 on May 05, 2012, 10:58:39 AM
No tracklist? Would be dope to have these on this release.

"Every Single Day" (Original Version) (feat. Snoop Dogg & Nate Dogg)

That one is extremely overrated but I agree, it would be cool if they featured that version on the CD. I ain't expected it to happen tho.

Admin @ drforum confirmed that it will be on the WA album

if you asked him about that song can you also ask if "i dont bang no more" from kurupt will be on there? that song also needs to be released. those two songs alone is worth the price to me
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Okka on May 05, 2012, 11:49:35 AM
No tracklist? Would be dope to have these on this release.
"Just Doggin" (feat. Nate Dogg)
"Me In Your World"
"Niggaz Don't Give A Fuck" (feat. Snoop Dogg & The Lady Of Rage)
"Nuthin' But The Cavi Hit" (feat. Mack 10)
"Nuthin' But The Cavi Hit" (Soopafly Remix) (feat. Mack 10)

i'd rather hear previously unreleased material rather than these songs that have all been released (except the original version of every single day)

Sure, me too. Does WideAwake have an album worth of Dogg Pound material though? Does anybody have the documents that leaked back when Death Row was sold?
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: scratch42069 on May 05, 2012, 12:00:39 PM
No tracklist? Would be dope to have these on this release.
"Just Doggin" (feat. Nate Dogg)
"Me In Your World"
"Niggaz Don't Give A Fuck" (feat. Snoop Dogg & The Lady Of Rage)
"Nuthin' But The Cavi Hit" (feat. Mack 10)
"Nuthin' But The Cavi Hit" (Soopafly Remix) (feat. Mack 10)

i'd rather hear previously unreleased material rather than these songs that have all been released (except the original version of every single day)

Sure, me too. Does WideAwake have an album worth of Dogg Pound material though? Does anybody have the documents that leaked back when Death Row was sold?

They have enough material for 2 albums. Tha Dogg Pound is up there with Snoop and Pac as far as leftovers.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: kuruptDPG on May 05, 2012, 02:14:20 PM
okka instead of cavi hit with mack 10, how about the cavi hit remix over the og beat with ice cube on it too?
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Black Excellence on May 05, 2012, 02:26:45 PM
need another unreleased snoop.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Will_B on May 05, 2012, 02:39:17 PM
Will errupted and drowned this thread wit his semen.

Why u gotta talk like that in the music section? :eh:
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on May 05, 2012, 02:47:26 PM
need another unreleased snoop.

2pac or snoop  8)
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Black Excellence on May 05, 2012, 03:10:30 PM
need another unreleased snoop.

2pac or snoop  8)
word  8)
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: donfathaimmortal on May 05, 2012, 03:28:35 PM
need another unreleased snoop.

2pac or snoop  8)
word  8)

WIDEawake Death Row gonna release another Snoop Doggy Dogg "Greatest Hits" compilation with classics and unreleased bonus tracks (2012)
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: acgrundy on May 05, 2012, 03:39:41 PM
Why would you put classics on there? All the classic snoop songs have been released on dozens of albums. Nobody is going to buy the cd for a classic snoop song. Just put the released stuff out for christ sake.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on May 05, 2012, 03:50:27 PM
need another unreleased snoop.

2pac or snoop  8)
word  8)

WIDEawake Death Row gonna release another Snoop Doggy Dogg "Greatest Hits" compilation with classics and unreleased bonus tracks (2012)


damn, i'd want a Lost Sessions vol 2 for Snoop instead
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: HardWorker on May 05, 2012, 04:25:23 PM
It will be shite
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: sofdark on May 05, 2012, 05:29:21 PM
Danny boy album had a track that skipped haha, thats the type of shit that WA sells.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on May 05, 2012, 06:31:19 PM
okka instead of cavi hit with mack 10, how about the cavi hit remix over the og beat with ice cube on it too?

i think that was just a remix, the ice cube-version
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Jimmy H. on May 05, 2012, 07:17:30 PM
Doesn't Priority own the rights to "Nuthin But The Cavi Hit"?
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: doggfather on May 05, 2012, 11:45:12 PM
Doesn't Priority own the rights to "Nuthin But The Cavi Hit"?

i think so.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Jimmy H. on May 06, 2012, 12:05:38 AM
No matter what itís going to be garbage. Even if they do have the original version of Every Single Day itís going to sound just as bad as the original version of ďOGĒ on lost sessions did; unmixed, unmastered, and no post production to bring the track up to par. The version on Lost Sessions compared to Retaliation Revenge and Get Back is NIGHT AND DAY. Weíll never see that level of quality from these people.

Think about the version of Every Single Day on Dogg Pound 2002, Death Row brought people in to put the finishing touches on that track to make it retail release worthy: that chick singing the hook, the guitar riff, that background dude doing vocals, the track was mixed (vocals were a little too low), Brian Gardner mastered the albumóthatís what needs to be done for every song. They need project coordinators bringing in musicians and producers and mixing engineers to bring these tracks up to par.

Wide Asleepís idea of post production is that fat hack John Payne throwing an old DAT tape in the oven of his dirty ass house, baking it for 5 minutes, then sending Robert Thompson-So an invoice for $20k and calling it a day. 

Itís so infuriating I canít even stand it. 

I feel you on this one. I don't know how people can be happy getting these unreleased Dre and Quik production with sound quality that's just a mess. It's one thing if you're getting a bootleg from the corner guy but if you have the official rights to the music where you can sell it in stores, put a few dollars behind it so it sounds right come out of people's speakers.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: doggfather on May 06, 2012, 12:17:52 AM
need another unreleased snoop.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: MURDERGHOST on May 06, 2012, 02:53:01 AM
Will wait and see how this unfolds...
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: dnjp4life on May 06, 2012, 08:36:09 AM
I look forward to this and hope that it's a mixture of the leaked stuff that's around and genuine unreleased and previously unheard material.

People always complain about that fact that WA release leaked music that we already have, and have had for years, but you have to remember, as far as they're concerned, none of this stuff has been heard before by music listeners, even if they know different. 
As a business they are entitled to make tracklists using songs that have leaked because they've never been officially released before.  So be grateful in that respect. 
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Okka on May 06, 2012, 08:55:57 AM
Doesn't Priority own the rights to "Nuthin But The Cavi Hit"?

Yeah, but how come Cube's "No Vaseline" was on the Death Row Greatest Hits though? That's Priority too, right?
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: bouli77 on May 06, 2012, 09:04:33 AM
Yeah the DR greatest hits had some songs that had nothing to do with DR, like Cube's songs, as well as Pac's pre-death row songs. Nuthin But the cavi hit has more to do with Death Row than those songs.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: scratch42069 on May 06, 2012, 09:15:16 AM
There was a deal with Death Row and Priority back in the day that involved 3 Ice Cube tracks. One of those was Greed on Gang Related. Not sure of the details and not sure if Nuthin But A Cavi Hit was included in that but it would explain why the Priority tracks were on those albums.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: acgrundy on May 06, 2012, 11:42:08 AM
nothin but a cavi hit was never on a deathrow release
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Jimmy H. on May 06, 2012, 11:44:50 AM
Death Row's Greatest Hits was distributed by Priority at the time so it's likely they were given permission to use certain music from their catalog. That's also why "Keep Their Heads Ringin" was on there.  
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Sir Petey on May 06, 2012, 02:03:28 PM
im waiting for big suges debut album...supposedly hes got some bars deep in the vault.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: kuruptDPG on May 06, 2012, 02:11:29 PM
okka instead of cavi hit with mack 10, how about the cavi hit remix over the og beat with ice cube on it too?

i think that was just a remix, the ice cube-version

u mean the soopafly remix? nah ice cube is also over the og beat too

il upload the snippet when i can
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Okka on May 06, 2012, 02:23:28 PM
I guess the full version hasn't leaked?
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Dre-Day on May 06, 2012, 02:45:14 PM
its sad how bad they have destroyed their reputation by ignoring the fans and releasing shitty quality release after shitty quality release...especially after all the hype and promises they made...who buys a company with a specific fan base and then completely ignores that fan base in this social media era we live in?   when you have the fans telling you specifically what they want on any fan board on the net? they are almost as bad running this company as Suge....

Say what you say about Suge, but he cared about the quality of Death Row releases. That's why you got so much unreleased stuff in the vault... Suge did a lot of things wrong, but you can't put that on him - he would NEVER release some shitty albums WideAwake have put out, like that Kurupt CD which was a complete JOKE etc.
you mean like the several compilations he put out?
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on May 06, 2012, 03:38:01 PM
okka instead of cavi hit with mack 10, how about the cavi hit remix over the og beat with ice cube on it too?

i think that was just a remix, the ice cube-version

u mean the soopafly remix? nah ice cube is also over the og beat too

il upload the snippet when i can

i know, but thats also a remix.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Black Excellence on May 06, 2012, 04:25:50 PM
when are they gonna drop a cpo boss hogg album ?
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: GangstaBoogy on May 06, 2012, 07:27:58 PM
Say what you say about Suge, but he cared about the quality of Death Row releases. That's why you got so much unreleased stuff in the vault... Suge did a lot of things wrong, but you can't put that on him - he would NEVER release some shitty albums WideAwake have put out, like that Kurupt CD which was a complete JOKE etc.

Real talk. Suge gets a lot of unfair hate. He did everything right in the beginning. He just let that mafia boss lifestyle get to his head and never snapped back to reality. But you don't own one of the most successful labels in music history on accident.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: riphuero on May 07, 2012, 12:47:08 AM
Album drops July 3rd. When I get the tracklisting ill hook it up
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: doggfather on May 07, 2012, 12:51:31 AM
Album drops July 3rd. When I get the tracklisting ill hook it up

thx
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: donfathaimmortal on May 09, 2012, 05:27:21 AM
CONFIRMED TRACKS :

"Every Single Day" OG (feat. Snoop Doggy Dogg & Nate Dogg)
"Runnin Fo The Fence" OG (feat. Nate Dogg, Michel'le & Warren G)
"Like Dis"
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on May 09, 2012, 09:31:01 AM
ill support this one as well, even tho that 20 to life shyt is garbage
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 09, 2012, 10:04:05 AM
CONFIRMED TRACKS :

"Every Single Day" OG (feat. Snoop Doggy Dogg & Nate Dogg)
"Runnin Fo The Fence" OG (feat. Nate Dogg, Michel'le & Warren G)
"Like Dis"


Now they're gettin somewhere
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on May 09, 2012, 10:21:57 AM
CONFIRMED TRACKS :

"Every Single Day" OG (feat. Snoop Doggy Dogg & Nate Dogg)
"Runnin Fo The Fence" OG (feat. Nate Dogg, Michel'le & Warren G)
"Like Dis"

cool, looks good so far  :)


not a big difference,
but the Nate Dogg-outro on the CDQ version of "every single day" (og) is shorter than his part on the radio-ripped version of "every single day" (og) and the volume on his vocals is lower

(if the version WideAwake have is the same version as the one that some people have),
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Mietek23 on May 09, 2012, 11:36:29 AM
CONFIRMED TRACKS :

"Every Single Day" OG (feat. Snoop Doggy Dogg & Nate Dogg)
"Runnin Fo The Fence" OG (feat. Nate Dogg, Michel'le & Warren G)
"Like Dis"

cool, looks good so far  :)


not a big difference,
but the Nate Dogg-outro on the CDQ version of "every single day" (og) is shorter than his part on the radio-ripped version of "every single day" (og) and the volume on his vocals is lower

(if the version WideAwake have is the same version as the one that some people have),


^^^Yep. That's why I said, the Nate Dogg version is overal overrated :)
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on May 09, 2012, 11:38:29 AM
i just like hearing nate dogg say "got tooo smoooke myyy chrooooniiic"
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Okka on May 09, 2012, 12:01:06 PM
CONFIRMED TRACKS :

"Every Single Day" OG (feat. Snoop Doggy Dogg & Nate Dogg)
"Runnin Fo The Fence" OG (feat. Nate Dogg, Michel'le & Warren G)
"Like Dis"

Dope. You got any more information about this, does the album have any already released songs? I seriously hope there ain't anything that has been on Death Row releases already.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Quadruple OG on May 09, 2012, 01:34:01 PM

"Runnin Fo The Fence" OG (feat. Nate Dogg, Michel'le & Warren G)


When was this song released? The name doesn't ring a bell unless this is the OG of "Let's Play House"
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: scratch42069 on May 09, 2012, 01:44:50 PM

"Runnin Fo The Fence" OG (feat. Nate Dogg, Michel'le & Warren G)


When was this song released? The name doesn't ring a bell unless this is the OG of "Let's Play House"

Let's Play House OG. Runnin' Fo The Fence was the original title of it.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Quadruple OG on May 09, 2012, 02:19:10 PM

"Runnin Fo The Fence" OG (feat. Nate Dogg, Michel'le & Warren G)


When was this song released? The name doesn't ring a bell unless this is the OG of "Let's Play House"

Let's Play House OG. Runnin' Fo The Fence was the original title of it.

Gotcha. Didn't know that was the original name of the track. Good to see it'll come out in better quality (hopefully).

Have Daz and/or Kurupt commented about WA releasing this?
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: bouli77 on May 09, 2012, 02:29:05 PM
i think they'll release these two in decent quality, they haven't disappointed in that particular field imo. i'm not talking about the overall quality of the projects, just some tracks that were floating around the internet in terrible quality and who ended on Wide Awake releases in much better quality : Doggystyle & I'll Smoke To That.

looking forward to it, especially the Let's Play House OG version.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: MarshColin on May 09, 2012, 02:57:10 PM
i think they'll release these two in decent quality, they haven't disappointed in that particular field imo. i'm not talking about the overall quality of the projects, just some tracks that were floating around the internet in terrible quality and who ended on Wide Awake releases in much better quality : Doggystyle & I'll Smoke To That.

looking forward to it, especially the Let's Play House OG version.

Ya I think there's also think there's a decent chance the quality on Runnin Fo Tha Fence will be pretty good based on the fact that Runnin Fo Tha Fence seemed to have at least a couple of different DAT's in the bankruptcy files, which leads me to believe it went pretty far in the "production process" back in the day. (meaning i hope they did enough work on it back in the day because we can't rely on WA to do anything for us in the sound quality department)
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: gfunkin2 on May 09, 2012, 06:19:21 PM
Never knew Let's Play House was originally called Runnin to the Fence.

Lookin' forward to it if it's in good quality. Love that intro "5, 10, 15...," the slightly altered beat, and Michel'le's additional vocals.  8)
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: MarshColin on May 09, 2012, 10:47:00 PM
Never knew Let's Play House was originally called Runnin to the Fence.

Lookin' forward to it if it's in good quality. Love that intro "5, 10, 15...," the slightly altered beat, and Michel'le's additional vocals.  8)

I didn't know this until a couple years ago either. I think there was an early Dogg Food press release that even listed "Runnin Fo The Fence" & "Can't See Us" on the tracklist. Does anybody remember this?

What song is "Like Dis?" People are talking about it like it's known and it's not ringing a bell for me.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Giesuz on May 09, 2012, 11:29:46 PM
Can't see us was on the original tracklist
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: donfathaimmortal on May 10, 2012, 02:21:32 AM
Tha Dogg Pound - Dogg Food (OG tracklist)

01 Intro
02 Dogg Pound Gangstaz
03 Respect
04 New York, New York (Tha Night I Served 2,000 MCs)
05 Smooth
06 Cyco-Lic-No (Bitch Azz Niggaz)
07 Ridin, Slipin And Slidin
08 U Can't Cee Me
09 Big Pimpin 2
10 "Let's Play House
11 I Don't Like To Dream About Gettin Paid
12 Do What I Feel
13 If We All Fucc
14 Some Bomb Azz Pussy
15 A Dogg'z Day Afternoon
16 Reality
17 One By One (Subtracting Sucka Azz Niggaz From The Face Of The Earth)
18 Sooo Much Style

EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS : SUGE KNIGHT & DR DRE
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on May 10, 2012, 07:19:01 AM
so Started was never meant for Dogg Food
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: donfathaimmortal on May 10, 2012, 08:59:31 AM
Some of the Dogg Food sessions :

----------1994 ----------------------------
"A Doggz Day Afternoon" (4/4/1994)
"Let's Play House" (with Warren G) (9/23/1994)
"Respect" (9/29/1994)
"Dogg Pound Gangstaz" (11/15/1994)
"One By One" (11/21/1994)
----------1995 ----------------------------
"Ridin, Slipin, Slidin" (1/20/1995)
"Cyco-Lic-No" (3/4/1995)
"Big Pimpin 2" (3/6/1995)
"Let's Play House (album version) (3/10/1995)
"Sooo Much Style" (4/5/1995)
"Do What I Feel" (6/22/1995)
"Reality" (7/10/1995)
"Some Bomb Azz Pussy" (8/7/1995)
"New York, New York" (9/7/1995)
"I Don't Like To Dream About Gettin Paid" (9/27/1995)
"I Rocs Mics" (with The Lady Or Rage) (unknown)
"Got My My Mind Made Up" (with Rebel I.N.S.) (unknown)
"Smooth" a.k.a. "Tha Sho Shit" (unknown)
"If We All Fucc" (unknown)
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Quadruple OG on May 10, 2012, 09:26:55 AM
I wonder if the OG of "Got My Mind Made Up" w/Rage and Inspectah Deck is going to make it on this album
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: bouli77 on May 10, 2012, 09:53:53 AM

i highly doubt it but that would be insane !!
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: jory on May 10, 2012, 10:04:42 AM
i bet this has 3 new songs, the rest will be made up from songs from 2002 and last of the pound
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on May 10, 2012, 10:42:19 AM
i bet this has 3 new songs, the rest will be made up from songs from 2002 and last of the pound

i thought Daz stole the masters for Last of the pound
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Quadruple OG on May 10, 2012, 11:22:38 AM
i bet this has 3 new songs, the rest will be made up from songs from 2002 and last of the pound

i thought Daz stole the masters for Last of the pound

"What Tha People Say" was on the Box Set they put out, so I'm pretty sure they have some of those songs
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: V2DHeart on May 10, 2012, 12:25:18 PM
Really sad when people have to question whether or not an OFFICIAL release will be in CDQ or not. It's like walking into a store and asking if a BluRay release will have "high def" picture quality. It's ridiculous, and is beggining to get beyond the joke now.

WIDEawake need to release this in perfect CDQ or not at all.

I don't bang no more wont be on this
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Sir Petey on May 10, 2012, 12:27:45 PM
Really sad when people have to question whether or not an OFFICIAL release will be in CDQ or not. It's like walking into a store and asking if a BluRay release will have "high def" picture quality. It's ridiculous, and is beggining to get beyond the joke now.

WIDEawake need to release this in perfect CDQ or not at all.

I don't bang no more wont be on this


i know right?
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on May 10, 2012, 01:29:05 PM
i bet this has 3 new songs, the rest will be made up from songs from 2002 and last of the pound

i thought Daz stole the masters for Last of the pound

"What Tha People Say" was on the Box Set they put out, so I'm pretty sure they have some of those songs


i wonder why they didn't save the Kurupt songs from 20 to Life and put them on this Doggy Bag project
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on May 10, 2012, 01:30:19 PM
i bet this has 3 new songs, the rest will be made up from songs from 2002 and last of the pound

yea probably
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Efrain on May 10, 2012, 02:06:50 PM
I like the sound of the confirmed tracks, I'm just skeptical on the quality front.

"Doggystyle" was 2nd to Next Episode OG on the "Holy-Grail-Unreleased-Death-Row-Songs" front, and yet that horrid, deplorable mix on Lost Sessions CD makes the song virtually un-listenable. In fact, I don't think I've even listened to it more than 5 times. The tape version from that recent Death Row bootleg promo sounds better.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Okka on May 10, 2012, 02:11:27 PM
Would be awesome if they included the Dr. Dre remix of "Tha Dogg Pound Gangstaz" on this, but i really doubt it.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Mak_Corleone on May 10, 2012, 02:59:11 PM
Efrain, can u hook me up with that Doggystyle & Next Episode from that tape u talking about?
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: bouli77 on May 10, 2012, 03:05:58 PM
I like the sound of the confirmed tracks, I'm just skeptical on the quality front.

"Doggystyle" was 2nd to Next Episode OG on the "Holy-Grail-Unreleased-Death-Row-Songs" front, and yet that horrid, deplorable mix on Lost Sessions CD makes the song virtually un-listenable. In fact, I don't think I've even listened to it more than 5 times. The tape version from that recent Death Row bootleg promo sounds better.

damn man we must have very different standards because i didn't see the problem really with Doggystyle. sure it's no cdq but it was better than the version that was floating around the internet and the quality never bothered me. never bumped it in big speakerrs though that may be why.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Efrain on May 10, 2012, 03:44:42 PM
http://www.zshare.ma/id7i44osdoiv

"Doggystyle" - Dre Rough mix from recently leaked Death Row bootleg tape.

To me this, even in a rough-mix state, and in degraded tape quality no less, sounds more cohesive (mix-wise) than the one on lost sessions. (and why shouldn't it, its mixed by dre after all)

Listen to the drums, the synths, the guitar.. notice how the vocals aren't panned across the track 180 degrees ridiculously? -- that's how the mixing should have sounded.
Wideasleep had some no-name bozo mix the song on Lost Sessions (aka John Payne alias I'm sure), and it was horrid.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: bouli77 on May 10, 2012, 03:54:15 PM
thanks, that's the version i used to have back in the day (in like 06). now that u broke it down, i notice it but otherwise i wouldn't have paid much attention, that's how shitty my ears are haha (i guess tinnitus doesn't help on top of that).
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Sir Petey on May 10, 2012, 04:03:02 PM
yeah they really fucked that song up in the mix....

also notice how rough dannyboys project sounds then go back and listen to the dr boxed set that just came out and listen to the songs specifically the dj quik produced so in love.

someone tried to mix that one right and over did it.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Mak_Corleone on May 10, 2012, 04:15:09 PM
http://www.zshare.ma/id7i44osdoiv

"Doggystyle" - Dre Rough mix from recently leaked Death Row bootleg tape.

To me this, even in a rough-mix state, and in degraded tape quality no less, sounds more cohesive (mix-wise) than the one on lost sessions. (and why shouldn't it, its mixed by dre after all)

Listen to the drums, the synths, the guitar.. notice how the vocals aren't panned across the track 180 degrees ridiculously? -- that's how the mixing should have sounded.
Wideasleep had some no-name bozo mix the song on Lost Sessions (aka John Payne alias I'm sure), and it was horrid.

i know what u saying, i bumped the bootleg version more than the cd version! LOL
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 10, 2012, 04:16:22 PM
A lot of their mistakes r basic tho.  I guess they're leaving it up to us to re-engineer and mix them.  They should just break down all of the tracks track by track like they did with "nothing but a G thang" (with everything) and let me handle that.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: The "Untouchable" DJR on May 10, 2012, 04:52:18 PM
I remember a few years back everybody on here except me was in a state of euphoria upon learning WideAwake's plans for the label, now countless questionable and bad quality releases later it has become very clear these people do not have the slightest clue what they are holding and what to do with it.

We were better off with the bootleggers providing us with the occasional gems from the vault every now and then.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on May 10, 2012, 05:08:04 PM
http://www.zshare.ma/id7i44osdoiv

"Doggystyle" - Dre Rough mix from recently leaked Death Row bootleg tape.

To me this, even in a rough-mix state, and in degraded tape quality no less, sounds more cohesive (mix-wise) than the one on lost sessions. (and why shouldn't it, its mixed by dre after all)

Listen to the drums, the synths, the guitar.. notice how the vocals aren't panned across the track 180 degrees ridiculously? -- that's how the mixing should have sounded.
Wideasleep had some no-name bozo mix the song on Lost Sessions (aka John Payne alias I'm sure), and it was horrid.

can u post a link on another site?
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Sir Petey on May 10, 2012, 05:15:36 PM
A lot of their mistakes r basic tho.  I guess they're leaving it up to us to re-engineer and mix them.  They should just break down all of the tracks track by track like they did with "nothing but a G thang" (with everything) and let me handle that.


that is a fucking dope ass idea man, you might be on to something....what if they re released classic albums in a digital format that let you mix the tracks yourself to your liking?

imagine buying thriller and making it your own creation or doing that shjit with classic stivie wonder or pink floyd albums and shit.


it would be ill for rap music too to take one of dre dres albums and reconstrusct it to your liking.


im gonna patent this shit.


#putsoutweed
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on May 10, 2012, 05:22:33 PM
A lot of their mistakes r basic tho.  I guess they're leaving it up to us to re-engineer and mix them.  They should just break down all of the tracks track by track like they did with "nothing but a G thang" (with everything) and let me handle that.


that is a fucking dope ass idea man, you might be on to something....what if they re released classic albums in a digital format that let you mix the tracks yourself to your liking?

imagine buying thriller and making it your own creation or doing that shjit with classic stivie wonder or pink floyd albums and shit.


it would be ill for rap music too to take one of dre dres albums and reconstrusct it to your liking.


im gonna patent this shit.


#putsoutweed

i just want a remaster of 2pacalypse Now
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: acgrundy on May 10, 2012, 07:45:45 PM
http://www.zshare.ma/id7i44osdoiv

"Doggystyle" - Dre Rough mix from recently leaked Death Row bootleg tape.

To me this, even in a rough-mix state, and in degraded tape quality no less, sounds more cohesive (mix-wise) than the one on lost sessions. (and why shouldn't it, its mixed by dre after all)

Listen to the drums, the synths, the guitar.. notice how the vocals aren't panned across the track 180 degrees ridiculously? -- that's how the mixing should have sounded.
Wideasleep had some no-name bozo mix the song on Lost Sessions (aka John Payne alias I'm sure), and it was horrid.

What else is on that bootleg?

I totally agree about doggystyle...man I loved the tape rip from back in the day, even in the shitty quality. I was really looking forward to the version on lost sessions, and it is just such a disappointment. It just feels like it is missing a key component that makes the song so great.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Efrain on May 10, 2012, 08:01:19 PM
This tape rip is from 2010-- not back in the day.

It leaked on a tape put on the TROY Blog:

http://www.thetroyblog.com/2010/08/26/death-row-%E2%80%9Cdemos-rough-mixes%E2%80%9D/


This rip is MUCH better than the old school one. This one is listenable (full disclosure: I polished it up a bit). It leaked along with the alternate version of "Niggaz Don't Give a Fuck" (which I tweaked a bit too)
http://uploading.com/files/e3m6e6e9/Untitled1-64.mp3/
(and here's an alt link for the "Doggystyle" above)
http://uploading.com/files/d55m523b/Untitled1-63.mp3/




The Death Row tap was demos and rough mixes. Tracklist is as follows:
01 Dr. Dre-Puffin On Blunts
02 Snoop Dogg-Whats My Name (Version 1)
03 Snoop Dogg-Gin and Juice
04 Snoop Dogg-Doggystyle
05 Snoop Dogg-Moms Are Crying
06 Snoop Dogg-What's My Name (Version2)
07 Dr. Dre-G Thang Jam (Sexual Harassment)
08 Tha Dogg Pound-Niggaz Dont Give A Fuck (Version 1)
09 Tha Dogg Pound-Niggaz Dont Give A Fuck (Version 2)
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: scratch42069 on May 10, 2012, 08:07:47 PM
This tape rip is from 2010-- not back in the day.

It leaked on a tape put on the TROY Blog:

http://www.thetroyblog.com/2010/08/26/death-row-%E2%80%9Cdemos-rough-mixes%E2%80%9D/


This rip is MUCH better than the old school one. This one is listenable (full disclosure: I polished it up a bit). It leaked along with the alternate version of "Niggaz Don't Give a Fuck" (which I tweaked a bit too)
http://uploading.com/files/e3m6e6e9/Untitled1-64.mp3/
(and here's an alt link for the "Doggystyle" above)
http://uploading.com/files/d55m523b/Untitled1-63.mp3/




The Death Row tap was demos and rough mixes. Tracklist is as follows:
01 Dr. Dre-Puffin On Blunts
02 Snoop Dogg-Whats My Name (Version 1)
03 Snoop Dogg-Gin and Juice
04 Snoop Dogg-Doggystyle
05 Snoop Dogg-Moms Are Crying
06 Snoop Dogg-What's My Name (Version2)
07 Dr. Dre-G Thang Jam (Sexual Harassment)
08 Tha Dogg Pound-Niggaz Dont Give A Fuck (Version 1)
09 Tha Dogg Pound-Niggaz Dont Give A Fuck (Version 2)

Sexual Harassment is a cool track because it's mostly Jewell over the Nuthin' But A G Thang beat.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: BG Rapsodie on May 10, 2012, 08:42:28 PM
No matter what itís going to be garbage. Even if they do have the original version of Every Single Day itís going to sound just as bad as the original version of ďOGĒ on lost sessions did; unmixed, unmastered, and no post production to bring the track up to par. The version on Lost Sessions compared to Retaliation Revenge and Get Back is NIGHT AND DAY. Weíll never see that level of quality from these people.

Think about the version of Every Single Day on Dogg Pound 2002, Death Row brought people in to put the finishing touches on that track to make it retail release worthy: that chick singing the hook, the guitar riff, that background dude doing vocals, the track was mixed (vocals were a little too low), Brian Gardner mastered the albumóthatís what needs to be done for every song. They need project coordinators bringing in musicians and producers and mixing engineers to bring these tracks up to par.

Wide Asleepís idea of post production is that fat hack John Payne throwing an old DAT tape in the oven of his dirty ass house, baking it for 5 minutes, then sending Robert Thompson-So an invoice for $20k and calling it a day. 

Itís so infuriating I canít even stand it. 


Calm down. You only have one heart.

Seriously. If throwaway tracks from Death Row not getting released in picture perfect quality makes you angry you've got some issues in your life. If Suge was still in charge these songs wouldn't be coming out period. So realize its a good thing and get glad, not mad.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: acgrundy on May 10, 2012, 08:43:33 PM
This tape rip is from 2010-- not back in the day.

It leaked on a tape put on the TROY Blog:

http://www.thetroyblog.com/2010/08/26/death-row-%E2%80%9Cdemos-rough-mixes%E2%80%9D/


This rip is MUCH better than the old school one. This one is listenable (full disclosure: I polished it up a bit). It leaked along with the alternate version of "Niggaz Don't Give a Fuck" (which I tweaked a bit too)
http://uploading.com/files/e3m6e6e9/Untitled1-64.mp3/
(and here's an alt link for the "Doggystyle" above)
http://uploading.com/files/d55m523b/Untitled1-63.mp3/




The Death Row tap was demos and rough mixes. Tracklist is as follows:
01 Dr. Dre-Puffin On Blunts
02 Snoop Dogg-Whats My Name (Version 1)
03 Snoop Dogg-Gin and Juice
04 Snoop Dogg-Doggystyle
05 Snoop Dogg-Moms Are Crying
06 Snoop Dogg-What's My Name (Version2)
07 Dr. Dre-G Thang Jam (Sexual Harassment)
08 Tha Dogg Pound-Niggaz Dont Give A Fuck (Version 1)
09 Tha Dogg Pound-Niggaz Dont Give A Fuck (Version 2)


Okay I remember this...Sexual Harassment is an AWESOME track, and Niggaz don't give a fuck is far better than the released version. Hopefully this one makes the WA release
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 10, 2012, 09:01:36 PM
Sum body fucked with my shit.  I know damn well I didn't have a mega upload link up there.  I just redownloaded it a few months ago.  Wtf is up with that, who's pandering on some ho shit
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on May 10, 2012, 10:18:32 PM
Sum body fucked with my shit.  I know damn well I didn't have a mega upload link up there.  I just redownloaded it a few months ago.  Wtf is up with that, who's pandering on some ho shit

THOSE BITCH MADE NIGGAS
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Funkstradamus on May 10, 2012, 11:12:16 PM
its sad how bad they have destroyed their reputation by ignoring the fans and releasing shitty quality release after shitty quality release...especially after all the hype and promises they made...who buys a company with a specific fan base and then completely ignores that fan base in this social media era we live in?   when you have the fans telling you specifically what they want on any fan board on the net? they are almost as bad running this company as Suge....

Say what you say about Suge, but he cared about the quality of Death Row releases. That's why you got so much unreleased stuff in the vault... Suge did a lot of things wrong, but you can't put that on him - he would NEVER release some shitty albums WideAwake have put out, like that Kurupt CD which was a complete JOKE etc.
man fuck Suge Knight....he over-managed Death Row...he was a fuckin control freak. He made a ton of fucked up business mistakes and thats why he doesn't own the company any more.  He controlled everything and had no talent amd no clue how to run a record label... heres a short list of some of his biggest fuck ups IMO (and im sure there are more):

-didnt sign Warren G
-never released Dre / Rage album
-never released a Nate Dogg album
-stopped Dre from making Chronic II
-never released Dre / RBX album
-scrapped Dogg Shit
-never released a Sam Sneed album
-never released a Danny Boy album
-stopped his artists from working with other on artists not on Death Row
-didnt sign Soopafly, Domino or LBC Crew but signed other unknown groups (who the fuck is OFTB?)
-only releasing like one / two albums a year when everything Death Row touched was platinum
-killing a multi platinum studio enviornment trying to be the next Nino Brown...
-not kissing Dre's ass and doing whatever it took to keep him & Snooop at Death Row
-thinking he was bigger than Dre & Snoop when they made Death Row relevant...
-Killing 2Pac (lol)...


the reason there are so many leftovers and there is so much unreleased material is because Suge never relealized what the fuck he really had until it was gone...then he wanna go sign a fake Snoop & 2Pac (The Realist & Topp Dogg) and call it the new Death Row? ...i mean really how the fuck do you go belly up and bankrupt when you had Dr Dre, Snoop Dogg, 2Pac, Tha Dogg Pound, Jodeci, DJ Quik, Nate Dogg, DJ Pooh, Warren G etc all in the studio and all in their prime? sheer fucking stupidity...so again from the bottom of my heart...fuck Suge Knight...
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: doggfather on May 10, 2012, 11:14:42 PM

-killing a double platinum studio enviornment trying to be the next Nino Brown...

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: GangstaBoogy on May 10, 2012, 11:55:18 PM
man fuck Suge Knight....he over-managed Death Row...he was a fuckin control freak. He made a ton of fucked up business mistakes and thats why he doen't own the company any more.  He controled everything and had no talent amd no clue how to run a record label... heres a short list of some of his biggest fuck ups IMO (and im sure there are more:

You do realize that Death Row was NEVER as successful as it was when Suge wasn't around right? Compare 92-96 to the Keita Rock era. Then compare 01-04 to the Wideawake Era. People can hate on Suge all they want but the dude knew what he was doing.





-didnt sign Warren G
Having Regulate as a Death Row release would've looked good for the catalogue but he would've never got a release date. Plus Dre didn't work with him

-never released Dre / Rage album
Yeah that pesky All Eyez On Me album got in the way

-never released a Nate Dogg album
Actually it got released but got pulled for whatever reason

-stopped Dre from making Chronic II
Lmao really? Dre refused to work. Pac and a few others spoke on Dre's horrible work ethic in those days.

-never released Dre / RBX album
Yeah that pesky Doggystyle album got in thew ay

-scrapped Dogg Shit
Contract issues. Kurupt wasn't on Death Row anymore. Antra didn't want their biggest artist doing an album for another label

-stopped his artists from working with other on artists not on Death Row
I wouldn't say he stopped them. Those old labels (Ruthless, Death Row, No Limit, Cash Money) all did things in-house cuz they had so much talent

-didnt sign Soopafly, Domino or LBC Crew but signed other unknown groups (who the fuck is OFTB?)
Soopafly and LBC Crew were signed through Doggystyle/Death Row. You're mad at Snoop - not Suge. Agree on OFTB tho.

-only releasing like one / two albums a year when everything Death Row touched was platinum
So we're mad at Suge for choosing quality > quantity? You have to give the people time to miss you. Besides remember when Master P released an ablum once a month from his artist? Most of them sucked balls

-killing a multi platinum studio enviornment trying to be the next Nino Brown...
Sad but very true =(

-not kissing Dre's ass and doing whatever it took to keep him & Snooop at Death Row
I think he had the option of keeping Snoop but Snoop without Dre was very Pau Gasol-ish: depressed, unmotivated, and a shell of his old self. He was a fool for not doing whatever it took to keep Dre. He should've paid him, bought him whatever, whatever it took. But on the flipside, if Dre was truely refusing to work then he probably felt it was a lost investment and rolled the dice on Daz, Quik, Johnny J, Barney Ruble, Kurt Cobain, etc being able to keep the DR sound going

-thinking he was bigger than Dre & Snoop when they made Death Row relevant...
Also true. He wasn't all over the videos and songs like Puffy but he very much tried to make himself the face of the label and give himself a mafia boss type image which was unnecessary

-Killing 2Pac...
Stoppit. The whole Suge setup Pac shit was the WORST theory. NO ONE is risky enough to hire a shooter to shoot someone sitting in their passanger seat. Besides did you hear what that retired LAPD officer said recently? He said Suge was so upset about 2Pac's murder that he orchestrated the eventual murder of Biggie


the reason there are so many leftovers and there is so much unreleased material is because Suge never relealized what the fuck he really had and didn't know shit about running a record label...i mean really how the fuck do you go belly up and bankrupt when you got Dr Dre, Snoop Dogg, 2Pac, Tha Dogg Pound, Jodeci, DJ Quik, Nate Dogg, DJ Pooh, Warren G etc all in the studio and all in their prime? sheer fucking stupidity...so again from the bottom of my heart...fuck Suge Knight...

The reason there are so many leftovers is because they had like 30 artist signed at the same time. And although a lot of the unreleased material is dope, its not like those projects are fucking with the classics that were released. They're actually overhyped cuz they're overdesired. We hear about these songs from our favorite artist that we've never heard and we want them. Trust me those LBC Crew, 2nd II None, Nate Dogg, Lady of Rage, etc projects would've just watered down Death Row's epic run. Plus you have to give him credit for the albums he DIDN'T release: Top Dogg, Tha Realest, SKG, hell even that wackass SHTTBG album.

I do wish in the Keita Rock era they would've released more underground type projects. Like that first Relativez album "Dirty Money" should've been a Death Row album.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: BG Rapsodie on May 11, 2012, 06:52:22 AM
man fuck Suge Knight....he over-managed Death Row...he was a fuckin control freak. He made a ton of fucked up business mistakes and thats why he doen't own the company any more.  He controled everything and had no talent amd no clue how to run a record label... heres a short list of some of his biggest fuck ups IMO (and im sure there are more:

You do realize that Death Row was NEVER as successful as it was when Suge wasn't around right? Compare 92-96 to the Keita Rock era. Then compare 01-04 to the Wideawake Era. People can hate on Suge all they want but the dude knew what he was doing.

You mean to say Death Row wasn't as successful after Suge had ran it into the ground and chased away his star roster? Oh okay.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: donfathaimmortal on May 11, 2012, 08:26:03 AM
man fuck Suge Knight....he over-managed Death Row...he was a fuckin control freak. He made a ton of fucked up business mistakes and thats why he doen't own the company any more.  He controled everything and had no talent amd no clue how to run a record label... heres a short list of some of his biggest fuck ups IMO (and im sure there are more:

You do realize that Death Row was NEVER as successful as it was when Suge wasn't around right? Compare 92-96 to the Keita Rock era. Then compare 01-04 to the Wideawake Era. People can hate on Suge all they want but the dude knew what he was doing.

You mean to say Death Row wasn't as successful after Suge had ran it into the ground and chased away his star roster? Oh okay.

If Keita Rock was there, on Death Row Records, Big Hutch was the VP. Daz lead some Death Row projects after the succeful years of Death Row. But when he left Suge Kinght and didn't make any contract for a distribution deal between Death Row Records & Dogg Pound Records, a lot of guyz lead the label's projects  (Reggie Devell Moore, or then KeitaRock Gotti...) but in 2000 Cold 187Um was here (he began to produce Crooked I) & start "Until The End Of Time" as Death Row Records Vice President. So there wasn't a Keita Rock era even if he was there and discover S(uge) K(night)G(irl) with Reg ;)

About Suge Knight, he managed Death Row Records releases very well (but not alone, for exmple, Pappa G). During the first years of Death Row Records, nobody don't give a shhh about Jewell, Danny Boy, O.F.T.B... even if they recorded some quality material over good productions. Dr Dre, then Snoop Doggy Dogg, then Tha Dogg Pound, then 2Pac. Some artists didn't success to release any albums, and it was perfect. Now, some die-hard-fans want to listen thangs like Bloody Mary and more shhh...

WIDEawake only manage a catalog.
I only hope "Doggy Bag" to be as perfect as The L.B.C. Crew album (although it was a complete project in 1995).
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: scratch42069 on May 11, 2012, 09:41:55 AM
man fuck Suge Knight....he over-managed Death Row...he was a fuckin control freak. He made a ton of fucked up business mistakes and thats why he doen't own the company any more.  He controled everything and had no talent amd no clue how to run a record label... heres a short list of some of his biggest fuck ups IMO (and im sure there are more:

You do realize that Death Row was NEVER as successful as it was when Suge wasn't around right? Compare 92-96 to the Keita Rock era. Then compare 01-04 to the Wideawake Era. People can hate on Suge all they want but the dude knew what he was doing.

You mean to say Death Row wasn't as successful after Suge had ran it into the ground and chased away his star roster? Oh okay.

If Keita Rock was there, on Death Row Records, Big Hutch was the VP. Daz lead some Death Row projects after the succeful years of Death Row. But when he left Suge Kinght & don't make any contract for a distribution deal between Death Row Records & Dogg Pound Records, a lot of guyz lead the label's projects  (Reggie Devell Moore, or then KeitaRock Gotti...) but in 2000 Cold 187Um was here (he began to produce Crooked I) & start "Until The End Of Time" as Death Row Records Vice President. So there wasn't a Keita Rock era even if he was there and discover S(uge) K(night)G(irl) with Reg ;)

About Suge Knight, he manage Death Row Records releases very well (but not alone, for exmple, Pappa G). During the first years of Death Row Records, nobody don't give a shhh about Jewell, Danny Boy, O.F.T.B... even if they recorded some quality material over good productions. Dr Dre, then Snoop Doggy Dogg, then Tha Dogg Pound, then 2Pac. Some artists didn't success any albums and it was perfect. Now, some die-hard-fans want to listen thangs like Bloody Mary and more shhh...

WIDEawake only manage a catalog.
I only hope "Doggy Bag" to be as perfect as The L.B.C. Crew album (although it was a complete project in 1995).

What are you talking about? Keita Rock was the VP of the label before Kurupt signed back and was the one that headed the Too Gangsta For Radio album.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Portugoal on May 11, 2012, 09:43:45 AM

the reason there are so many leftovers and there is so much unreleased material is because Suge never relealized what the fuck he really had until it was gone

Any label that is or used to be a big deal has tons of material locked in their vaults. Death Row is no exception. Do you really believe No Limit, Bad Boy and Cash Money release most of their recorded material?
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Dre-Day on May 11, 2012, 10:24:32 AM
man fuck Suge Knight....he over-managed Death Row...he was a fuckin control freak. He made a ton of fucked up business mistakes and thats why he doen't own the company any more.  He controled everything and had no talent amd no clue how to run a record label... heres a short list of some of his biggest fuck ups IMO (and im sure there are more:

You do realize that Death Row was NEVER as successful as it was when Suge wasn't around right? Compare 92-96 to the Keita Rock era. Then compare 01-04 to the Wideawake Era. People can hate on Suge all they want but the dude knew what he was doing.
yeah he made the label go bankrupt.

This tape rip is from 2010-- not back in the day.

It leaked on a tape put on the TROY Blog:

http://www.thetroyblog.com/2010/08/26/death-row-%E2%80%9Cdemos-rough-mixes%E2%80%9D/


This rip is MUCH better than the old school one. This one is listenable (full disclosure: I polished it up a bit). It leaked along with the alternate version of "Niggaz Don't Give a Fuck" (which I tweaked a bit too)
http://uploading.com/files/e3m6e6e9/Untitled1-64.mp3/
(and here's an alt link for the "Doggystyle" above)
http://uploading.com/files/d55m523b/Untitled1-63.mp3/
thanks a lot for Niggaz dont give a fuck! the vocals sound much clearer :)
by the way, i've asked this a billion times before, but somehow you haven't responded yet. could you finally upload your tweaked version of the Out the moon remix (LBC Crew)?
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on May 12, 2012, 12:37:53 PM
tweaked?  like Lights tweaked?
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: doggfather on May 12, 2012, 12:39:04 PM

I only hope "Doggy Bag" to be as perfect as The L.B.C. Crew album (although it was a complete project in 1995).


yes, but better quality.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: V2DHeart on May 12, 2012, 12:42:41 PM
man fuck Suge Knight....he over-managed Death Row...he was a fuckin control freak. He made a ton of fucked up business mistakes and thats why he doen't own the company any more.  He controled everything and had no talent amd no clue how to run a record label... heres a short list of some of his biggest fuck ups IMO (and im sure there are more:

You do realize that Death Row was NEVER as successful as it was when Suge wasn't around right? Compare 92-96 to the Keita Rock era. Then compare 01-04 to the Wideawake Era. People can hate on Suge all they want but the dude knew what he was doing.
yeah he made the label go bankrupt.

Suge didn't make the label go bankrupt. The death of 2Pac (which was his own fault), the lack of Dr Dre (down to daz) were strong factors.. Not to mention the original funding of the label that was under investigation, the lawsuits from the Harris's, and the political pressure that made Interscope back out, and others stay clear were also primary factors that made the label go down the tubes.
Suge is just the figure head, and blame guy. Was he wrong for trying to get celebrity status as a "gangster" figure. Sure, but that was no reason the label went down... If anything, his actions and attitude were the only thing that allowed Death Row to launch, and flourish as long as it did.... He fought for Death Row to own it's own masters, for artists - BLACK rappers to get the best legal assistance (something unheard of previously) and had the funds to put out huge albums, lots of big videos for that time (Natural Born Killaz) and basically put his finger up when Political figures tried to weigh in.

I think today - The current Suge looks bitter and sad, and a huge part of that is because he never really sold out, and watched others IE: Snoop on No limit, and doing his colgate ad's and pimp fancy dress, and Dre doing no cuss then "gangsta" re-hash, and making a lot of money because of it, while he continued to try and put out real raw material IE; Too Gangsta 4 TV celebrity beat downs, OFTB, hard rap and so on and have no one want to put it out, yet put a ton of money behind a watered down Dre or Snoop, and even 2Pac (Ghetto Gospel)

Suge is the blame guy for a lot on here, but people need to remember that whilst everyone jumped ship and bailed - Including all the advisors, lawyers, accountants as well as the rappers and producers, he still stayed, still scouted for talent, still got some out of shytty deals, and even helped those on other labels negotiate better deals for themselves for no slef-profit... & lets not forget others who still went to him when they didn't need to - Lisa "Left Eye" Lopez, Ja Rule, Petey Pablo, and people like Kurupt and Danny Boy who returned. Why would they all go to him if he was so bad? People can't see that the label was blackballed for all the wrong reasons
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Mak_Corleone on May 12, 2012, 12:59:44 PM
I kinda agree with the guy above. It's incredible how Left Eye went and sign with Suge if he was that type of muthafucka
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: BabyBird on May 12, 2012, 01:08:33 PM
its clear that Suge ain't suckin no dick or pussy
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on May 12, 2012, 01:16:39 PM
its clear that Suge ain't suckin no dick

if he was he'd be in the Lamb Crew
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: V2DHeart on May 12, 2012, 01:22:10 PM
He was the guy that corporate America simply didn't want climbing the ranks because he was a serious threat to their corrupt politics. He wanted to take Death Row to an entire different coast and duplicate the money while still keeping it BLACK owned.

They were fine with Suge being able to get these artists to put out the music, and make them a lot more money than what Suge or Death Row did. But as soon as they saw that he was prepared to move the label to new heights, and secure it's place, and wasn't as stupid as people thought he was, they needed to get rid of him quick, and with anyone who comes up from the streets, it's real easy to get rid of them economically, or legally.

They gave back to the streets, and quietly at that too.. Can you guys find any pictures on the net of a bus full of teens going to see their incarcerated family behind bars funded by Death Row? The sporting teams with uniforms and equipment bought by Death Row? The mothers days, the summer BBQ's, the xmas hand outs on the streets??? You know why? Because they meant every bit of it. The label lived it to it's image in terms of "street/hood label".... Now how many corporate label do you know who do the above??? Any thing they put their name to is done so in a manner that is carried out to ensure their name is advertised through out a charity event, or has some promotional agenda. Madonna adopting 1 black hungry child but failing to arrive to pick the child up until the media press helicopter had arrived despite her being in the area an hour beforehand. Leona Lewis going to Kenya to take pictures with sick kids all smiling, even though she only arrived for 5 minutes to "meet and greet" while a non profit team beforehand done all the leg work and graft for the project, and that was you guessed it - before her album release. Death Row actually done it legitimately without the BS.

Death Row simply done it for the love, and white corporate America hated that because with they knew that Death Row would have huge support from the streets, and that kind of support (see John Lennon) meant "voters" influence, and as soon as 2Pac came on board, the label had to be brought down one way or another. The gang affiliation, and criminal records of it's artists just made it an easy target
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Funkstradamus on May 12, 2012, 10:29:17 PM
man fuck Suge Knight....he over-managed Death Row...he was a fuckin control freak. He made a ton of fucked up business mistakes and thats why he doen't own the company any more.  He controled everything and had no talent amd no clue how to run a record label... heres a short list of some of his biggest fuck ups IMO (and im sure there are more:

You do realize that Death Row was NEVER as successful as it was when Suge wasn't around right? Compare 92-96 to the Keita Rock era. Then compare 01-04 to the Wideawake Era. People can hate on Suge all they want but the dude knew what he was doing.
yeah he made the label go bankrupt.

Suge didn't make the label go bankrupt. The death of 2Pac (which was his own fault), the lack of Dr Dre (down to daz) were strong factors.. Not to mention the original funding of the label that was under investigation, the lawsuits from the Harris's, and the political pressure that made Interscope back out, and others stay clear were also primary factors that made the label go down the tubes.
Suge is just the figure head, and blame guy. Was he wrong for trying to get celebrity status as a "gangster" figure. Sure, but that was no reason the label went down... If anything, his actions and attitude were the only thing that allowed Death Row to launch, and flourish as long as it did.... He fought for Death Row to own it's own masters, for artists - BLACK rappers to get the best legal assistance (something unheard of previously) and had the funds to put out huge albums, lots of big videos for that time (Natural Born Killaz) and basically put his finger up when Political figures tried to weigh in.

I think today - The current Suge looks bitter and sad, and a huge part of that is because he never really sold out, and watched others IE: Snoop on No limit, and doing his colgate ad's and pimp fancy dress, and Dre doing no cuss then "gangsta" re-hash, and making a lot of money because of it, while he continued to try and put out real raw material IE; Too Gangsta 4 TV celebrity beat downs, OFTB, hard rap and so on and have no one want to put it out, yet put a ton of money behind a watered down Dre or Snoop, and even 2Pac (Ghetto Gospel)

Suge is the blame guy for a lot on here, but people need to remember that whilst everyone jumped ship and bailed - Including all the advisors, lawyers, accountants as well as the rappers and producers, he still stayed, still scouted for talent, still got some out of shytty deals, and even helped those on other labels negotiate better deals for themselves for no slef-profit... & lets not forget others who still went to him when they didn't need to - Lisa "Left Eye" Lopez, Ja Rule, Petey Pablo, and people like Kurupt and Danny Boy who returned. Why would they all go to him if he was so bad? People can't see that the label was blackballed for all the wrong reasons
are you serious?   the downfall of Death Row started once Suge became visible.  He chased away all the superstars from the label with his thug-mentality CEO syle.  How many artists (DJ Quik, Jodeci, etc) wanted to sign with Death Row but didnt because of the unprofessional enviornment at Death Row records? He got 2Pac killed because he got him all hyped up and had him running around starting shit and screaming MOB.  I don't believe 2pac starts the fight that leads to him getting shot if he's not rolling with Suge.  If Suge was the reason for all the success and made such good business decisions then why did he not create another star after Dre & Snoop left?  Why didn't Eastwood, Crooked I, hell even Daz or Kurupt become superstars if Suge was the mastermind behind Death Row's success? It was a running joke for years if you wanna kill your career and never come out, sign with Death Row. Petey Pablo ever release anything?  Left Eye while she was living?  Crooked I?  Death Row & Suge ate for years off the leftovers from all the old "inmates" cause thats all they had.  And most of the music he didnt even release right letting producers that had nothing to with the original music go in and fuck it up...
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: V2DHeart on May 13, 2012, 07:56:25 AM
Quote from: BC Powda
are you serious?   the downfall of Death Row started once Suge became visible.

It started as soon as Lydia Harris started chasing the money, and as once vice president Dan Quayle, C. Delores Tucker, Bob Dole and every other politician round the country tried to shut down gangsta rap IE: Death Row Records being that it was the biggest label at the time. It really had nothing to do with Suge. His persona and make up was exactly the opposite and was what kept Death Row from bowing down to political pressure and crumbling early on


Quote from: BC Powda
How many artists (DJ Quik, Jodeci, etc) wanted to sign with Death Row but didnt because of the unprofessional enviornment at Death Row records?

But DJ Quik wanted to sign, along with many more acts. Quik knew Dogg Pound were going to be huge in 95, and he liked the creative freedom Suge allowed his artists over there, which is why the above rolled with Suge and was under the management of Suge/Death Row, and because he was known for getting artists out of shytty deals and to an extent (the best for any CEO) would look out for them. We all know about his efforts, which landed Suge in trouble for trying to get Kurupt off his terrible Antra deal, and to get Chocolate his rights to the song he wrote for Vanilla Ice to name but a few. He still had mainstream knocking down his door


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He got 2Pac killed because he got him all hyped up and had him running around starting shit and screaming MOB.  I don't believe 2pac starts the fight that leads to him getting shot if he's not rolling with Suge.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't 2Pac continuously in trouble with the law, numerous court cases and getting into fights all the time, as well as getting death threats all before he even went on Death Row? Wasn't he shot before Death Row and Suge? Suge can't be blamed for 2Pac's stupidity. 2Pac died because "2Pac" was silly enough to get involved. Suge never told him to do anything. If you remember 2Pac was always trying to act hard ever since Juice, and ever since he started on the Hughes Brothers

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If Suge was the reason for all the success and made such good business decisions then why did he not create another star after Dre & Snoop left?  Why didn't Eastwood, Crooked I, hell even Daz or Kurupt become superstars if Suge was the mastermind behind Death Row's success?

They never became stars because the Hip Hop industry, which was now run by corporate suits, the same that tried to shut down gangster rap in the mid 90's were now running the industry, and had therefore blackballed Suge and anything associated with him. 2Pac's name would have been blackballed too, and the only reason 2Pac's releases were given good promotion up until 2005 was because of that Tom Whalley. As soon as he stepped down from his CEO position, you'll notice 2Pac's material didn't get the promotion it did previously

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And most of the music he didnt even release right letting producers that had nothing to with the original music go in and fuck it up...

You're referring to one album (the remix 2Pac album), which by comparison was at least titled and marketed as a REMIX album, and not an official LP like Amaru done...

Dogg Pound 2002... That album sounded terrible? That is highly praised for the additional production and engineered work on that, as well as Dead Man Walkin, and the 2 2pac tracks on Too Gangsta 4 radio, so I can't find any evidence to substantiate your claim that "most" of the music was fkd up
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on May 14, 2012, 02:58:28 AM
man fuck Suge Knight....he over-managed Death Row...he was a fuckin control freak. He made a ton of fucked up business mistakes and thats why he doen't own the company any more.  He controled everything and had no talent amd no clue how to run a record label... heres a short list of some of his biggest fuck ups IMO (and im sure there are more:

You do realize that Death Row was NEVER as successful as it was when Suge wasn't around right? Compare 92-96 to the Keita Rock era. Then compare 01-04 to the Wideawake Era. People can hate on Suge all they want but the dude knew what he was doing.
yeah he made the label go bankrupt.

Suge didn't make the label go bankrupt. The death of 2Pac (which was his own fault), the lack of Dr Dre (down to daz) were strong factors.. Not to mention the original funding of the label that was under investigation, the lawsuits from the Harris's, and the political pressure that made Interscope back out, and others stay clear were also primary factors that made the label go down the tubes.
Suge is just the figure head, and blame guy. Was he wrong for trying to get celebrity status as a "gangster" figure. Sure, but that was no reason the label went down... If anything, his actions and attitude were the only thing that allowed Death Row to launch, and flourish as long as it did.... He fought for Death Row to own it's own masters, for artists - BLACK rappers to get the best legal assistance (something unheard of previously) and had the funds to put out huge albums, lots of big videos for that time (Natural Born Killaz) and basically put his finger up when Political figures tried to weigh in.

I think today - The current Suge looks bitter and sad, and a huge part of that is because he never really sold out, and watched others IE: Snoop on No limit, and doing his colgate ad's and pimp fancy dress, and Dre doing no cuss then "gangsta" re-hash, and making a lot of money because of it, while he continued to try and put out real raw material IE; Too Gangsta 4 TV celebrity beat downs, OFTB, hard rap and so on and have no one want to put it out, yet put a ton of money behind a watered down Dre or Snoop, and even 2Pac (Ghetto Gospel)

Suge is the blame guy for a lot on here, but people need to remember that whilst everyone jumped ship and bailed - Including all the advisors, lawyers, accountants as well as the rappers and producers, he still stayed, still scouted for talent, still got some out of shytty deals, and even helped those on other labels negotiate better deals for themselves for no slef-profit... & lets not forget others who still went to him when they didn't need to - Lisa "Left Eye" Lopez, Ja Rule, Petey Pablo, and people like Kurupt and Danny Boy who returned. Why would they all go to him if he was so bad? People can't see that the label was blackballed for all the wrong reasons

Suge is responsible for the collapse of Death Row Records. the tough-guy image attracted too much negativity, and in due time it destroyed teh label.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: bouli77 on May 14, 2012, 04:42:03 AM
it also brought a negative image for the whole westcoast rapwise. a lot of artists have been complaining that A&R's and record exec's are always wary of signing westcoast acts and promoting gangsta rap because of suge's antics after he became Death Row's frontman.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Quadruple OG on May 14, 2012, 07:34:20 AM
How many artists (DJ Quik, Jodeci, etc) wanted to sign with Death Row but didnt because of the unprofessional enviornment at Death Row records?

Suge signed Management deals with DJ Quik, Jodeci, and Mary J. Blige. He renegotiated their contracts with their respective labels (this is probably one of the reasons why Suge got Executive Producer credit on "Safe + Sound"). I don't think any of them a) actively tried to get Suge to sign them and b) would have been able to sign because of label politics. There is no way, even with Suge's power at the time, that Jodeci and Mary J Blige would have been freed from their contracts given how popular they were in '95.

hell even Daz or Kurupt become superstars if Suge was the mastermind behind Death Row's success?

Daz and Kurupt became household names and have careers because of Death Row.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: procrastiNate on May 15, 2012, 04:24:24 PM
People always complain about that fact that WA release leaked music that we already have, and have had for years, but you have to remember, as far as they're concerned, none of this stuff has been heard before by music listeners, even if they know different.  
As a business they are entitled to make tracklists using songs that have leaked because they've never been officially released before.  So be grateful in that respect.  
People fail to realize this. It's not WA's fault that a shitload of unreleased Death Row material got bootlegged/ leaked. If I was them I would give all the unreleased tracks that have been leaked a proper release too. The only thing that makes me mad is the fact that they continue to put out songs that have already been released on retail albums. That and the fact that a lot of it sounds like shit.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: MarshColin on May 15, 2012, 10:53:03 PM
People always complain about that fact that WA release leaked music that we already have, and have had for years, but you have to remember, as far as they're concerned, none of this stuff has been heard before by music listeners, even if they know different.  
As a business they are entitled to make tracklists using songs that have leaked because they've never been officially released before.  So be grateful in that respect.  
People fail to realize this. It's not WA's fault that a shitload of unreleased Death Row material got bootlegged/ leaked. If I was them I would give all the unreleased tracks that have been leaked a proper release too. They only thing that makes me mad is the fact that they continue to put out songs that have already been released. That and the fact that a lot of it sounds like shit.

I agree with you guys on the releasing "leaked" stuff and don't think it's a big deal BUT I'm pretty sure there's been some instances where leaked stuff is better quality than what WA puts out (Doggystyle tape rip > WA version for example) and that's the stuff that bugs me.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Russell Bell on May 16, 2012, 12:56:36 AM
He was the guy that corporate America simply didn't want climbing the ranks because he was a serious threat to their corrupt politics. He wanted to take Death Row to an entire different coast and duplicate the money while still keeping it BLACK owned.

They were fine with Suge being able to get these artists to put out the music, and make them a lot more money than what Suge or Death Row did. But as soon as they saw that he was prepared to move the label to new heights, and secure it's place, and wasn't as stupid as people thought he was, they needed to get rid of him quick, and with anyone who comes up from the streets, it's real easy to get rid of them economically, or legally.

They gave back to the streets, and quietly at that too.. Can you guys find any pictures on the net of a bus full of teens going to see their incarcerated family behind bars funded by Death Row? The sporting teams with uniforms and equipment bought by Death Row? The mothers days, the summer BBQ's, the xmas hand outs on the streets??? You know why? Because they meant every bit of it. The label lived it to it's image in terms of "street/hood label".... Now how many corporate label do you know who do the above??? Any thing they put their name to is done so in a manner that is carried out to ensure their name is advertised through out a charity event, or has some promotional agenda. Madonna adopting 1 black hungry child but failing to arrive to pick the child up until the media press helicopter had arrived despite her being in the area an hour beforehand. Leona Lewis going to Kenya to take pictures with sick kids all smiling, even though she only arrived for 5 minutes to "meet and greet" while a non profit team beforehand done all the leg work and graft for the project, and that was you guessed it - before her album release. Death Row actually done it legitimately without the BS.

Death Row simply done it for the love, and white corporate America hated that because with they knew that Death Row would have huge support from the streets, and that kind of support (see John Lennon) meant "voters" influence, and as soon as 2Pac came on board, the label had to be brought down one way or another. The gang affiliation, and criminal records of it's artists just made it an easy target

I think you might be jumping to conclusions a little saying he was about to "take them to new heights".  suge shouldve downsized and not only tried to release hits and built on the underground appeal of his label.  releasing no music you might as well blackball yourself.
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on June 02, 2012, 08:13:56 AM
that cover is wack  ;D
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Mak_Corleone on June 02, 2012, 12:11:47 PM
Suge wanted 2 create his own distribution and leave Interscope. So yeah, they got mad and the rest is history. Not saying he didnt do wrong, but he wasn't as bad as the Heads are
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: awol22222 on June 02, 2012, 06:04:24 PM
Bigger cover
(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7872/wkeg2729cd.jpg)
Title: Re: Dogg Pound - "Doggy Bag" (2012, Wideawake)
Post by: Will_B on June 02, 2012, 06:07:53 PM
I got used to it now

it's 'ok' :)