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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: ITW [the irish boy] on February 15, 2003, 12:30:04 PM
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How did they go in your countries? I heard over a million turned out in london what about america, australia, mainland europe etc?
It was unbelievable the amount of people that turned out in dublin. There are only 1million people in dublin, and 100,000 of them were on the streets today screaming for peace. I saw people from all walks of life there, I went in with my somalian friend and met up with an iraqi dude and my cousins from down the country. Ive never seen anything like this. The government here were really told how the people felt.My views on Iraq were reinforced by this, only the current party in power here werent represnented in speechs. There were nuclear experts, priests and american and un former officials speaking. Hopefully george bush and tony blair will have taken note of the international demonstrations. What happened in your countries + did yiz support it?
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There around 400k in London. 1m is what they're claiming, but as they all fit into Hyde Park, etc... ::)
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Tony Blair made a great point in a speech he made today:
"If 500,000 people are on the march, that is less than the number of deaths Saddam is responsible for. If one million people are on the march, that is still less than the number of people who died in wars that he started..."
keep that in mind when you are watching the protests and think of what Saddam could do with weapons of mass destruction...
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Tony Blair made a great point in a speech he made today:
"If 500,000 people are on the march, that is less than the number of deaths Saddam is responsible for. If one million people are on the march, that is still less than the number of people who died in wars that he started..."
keep that in mind when you are watching the protests and think of what Saddam could do with weapons of mass destruction...
But of course these idiots don't protest Saddam Hussein. They want brutal, oppressive dictators to remain in power.
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yea nice factoid engel, i wonder if that counts all the people the allied forces slaughtered in the gulf war.
Organisers said nearly 2 million people protested in england today. yet Mr Blair aka Mrs Bush still wants to do it, who's the real dictator here?
**edited this, i got my numbers all wrong. apologies**
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69% of America supports military action in Iraq...
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Organisers said nearly 2 million people protested in england today. thats almost a third of our population.
a) The organizers are hardly unbias.
b) Surely you mean 20m? Otherwise, the UK has 6m people in it. And I seriously doubt 20m people marched. That would mean the entire adult working population marched, virtually. I laugh at that idea.
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the anti-war protests have gotten pretty big here in australia, there was one in melbourne yesterday that attracted hundreds of thousands and there is one in sydney today
i might go to one in my town but it will be pretty small
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yea my bad owen i got the numbers way wrong lol. anyway, point remains, a lot of people are against war and Blair has no respect for them.
Engel where did u get that figure homie? that seems really high
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fox news, but it's just 67%...
"According to the latest FOX News poll, conducted by Opinion Dynamics Corporation, two-thirds of Americans (67 percent) support U.S. military action against Iraq -- the same level of support as before the president's State of the Union address on Tuesday evening. Among "hawks," that support climbs to 83 percent, and even among "doves" a majority still supports ousting Saddam (52 percent)."
"Overall, fully 87 percent of Americans believe Iraq is deceiving inspectors by hiding chemical and biological or other weapons of mass destruction, and almost as many (81 percent) believe Saddam has ties to the Al Qaeda terrorist group."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77202,00.html
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in korea, i don't know about protests concerning the war against iraq but i do know we are rioting towards americans(fire bombs)
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in korea, i don't know about protests concerning the war against iraq but i do know we are rioting towards americans(fire bombs)
I saw pro US demonstrations in Korea on tv recently.
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yeah here in germany we had huge demonstratios too... i wanted to go to one but i overslept.. i heard nearly half a million people were out on the streets here in hamburg
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the protests got around 300 thousand people in sydney and about 6 million world wide
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400k?? in london?? Sky News was aying police estimates were that well in excess of 3/4 of a million were at it. Thats strange.
Anyway Engel, like Kaidy said, the majority of deaths in Iraq over the last 12 years have been as a result of UN sanctions which prevent medical supplies etc. Surely Blair at least must realise that the majority of the world is against him. I doubt Bush will take any notice, coz his presidency is based on this war, though america and britain are becoming increasingly isolated and judging from yesterdays protests, the publics power in places like ireland could remove strategic strongholds for the likes of refueling etc. Maybe we will see some lives saved as a result of this.
Make no mistake, we want saddam disarmed, but killing thousands and thousands of civilians will not accomplish this. The ONLY way to achieve this is diplomacy and negotiations.
One of the american speakers said the peace alliance in america had served impeachment procedings against bush, cheney and rumsfield for crimes against humanity and peace in afganistan. Has anyone heard anything about this?
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Make no mistake, we want saddam disarmed, but killing thousands and thousands of civilians will not accomplish this. The ONLY way to achieve this is diplomacy and negotiations.
Sadaam does not just need to be disarmed, he needs to be removed, and that is only going to happen through war.
One of the american speakers said the peace alliance in america had served impeachment procedings against bush, cheney and rumsfield for crimes against humanity and peace in afganistan. Has anyone heard anything about this?
Yeah, that is really going to happen. And for what reason?
Bush should be given an award for freeing Afghanistan.
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in korea, i don't know about protests concerning the war against iraq but i do know we are rioting towards americans(fire bombs)
I saw pro US demonstrations in Korea on tv recently.
LMAO..where???
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Somebody explain to me, if everybody DOESNT want bush to go to war, then how is going to war going to help his re-election? Yall contradict yourselves constantly. Which one is it? Do people want war, or not? If they don't, and he goes to war, then won't he not get re-elected? Yall are full of crap.
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But of course these idiots don't protest Saddam Hussein. They want brutal, oppressive dictators to remain in power.
well we really have no right to tell another nation how to run itself politically, if saddam hussian is the leader of a nation who are we to remove him? it should happen through revolution if he isnt doing his job
Sadaam does not just need to be disarmed, he needs to be removed, and that is only going to happen through war.
Bush should be given an award for freeing Afghanistan.
the only reason to remove a nation's leader is to stop them from invading other nations or because the leader is exterminating citizens e.g. hitler.
its like the vietnam war all over again and i was proud to be part of the protests - there is never a need for war - there is never a need for people to die.
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*Sigh. In 91 Iraq invaded Kuwait, so we came to Kuwait's defense. Iraq recently has been found supporting al queada, who recently bombed the u.s. Of course Iraq is an enemy. On top of that, When Iraq agreed to peace in 91, they agreed to certain concessions. They've went back on those agreements, for several years, now, so the peace agreement is void.
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*Sigh. In 91 Iraq invaded Kuwait, so we came to Kuwait's defense. Iraq recently has been found supporting al queada, who recently bombed the u.s. Of course Iraq is an enemy. On top of that, When Iraq agreed to peace in 91, they agreed to certain concessions. They've went back on those agreements, for several years, now, so the peace agreement is void.
yeah and the invasion was stopped not long after without having to remove saddam then - iraq isnt invading anyone at the moment - and who gives a fuck if they have gone back on those agreements - there is no reason why the dont have the right to - and besides peace agreements are often unfair to the nation that lost the war.
and america supported the taliban in their war against the soviet union...they even gave them the weapons they used to support the terrorists.
how can u support war? it all it results in is poverty and civillians deaths - if america only investigated saddam - isnt very possible they could of got closer to the al queada instead of worrying about saddam so much. it should be treated as an investigation, not a threat of war.
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^ lol@ al qaeda/saddam connection
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*Sigh. In 91 Iraq invaded Kuwait, so we came to Kuwait's defense. Iraq recently has been found supporting al queada, who recently bombed the u.s. Of course Iraq is an enemy. On top of that, When Iraq agreed to peace in 91, they agreed to certain concessions. They've went back on those agreements, for several years, now, so the peace agreement is void.
Since when has there been a link between Al 'Quiada and Iraq? Al 'Quiada hate Saddam Hussein as firstly Iraq is not a Muslim state (in fact there was no government link to Islam until the gulf war when Saddam used it to get the Muslim states on his side) and he does not share the same fundamentalist beliefs as Al 'Quiada, believe it or not they want him dead nearly as much as they want you dead Trauma. I do think that Saddam should be kicked out of power and put on trial for war crimes in the Hague, however do i think America should be going after him this early on in their War on Terrorism? No.