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Title: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: J. B A N A N A S on August 08, 2012, 12:21:08 PM
Share your experiences that led you to adopt this lifestyle. The moral implications you feel outweigh the joy of eating animal products and such.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on August 08, 2012, 12:22:50 PM
vegans are pussies
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Fraxxx on August 13, 2012, 06:25:34 AM
vegans are pussies

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Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Sikotic™ on August 16, 2012, 05:33:56 PM
I have doubled up my meat consumption to take up the slack of vegans.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on August 16, 2012, 05:42:39 PM
I have doubled up my meat consumption to take up the slack of vegans.
What you should do is approach a vegan friend and tell them that you will triple your meat eating unless they stop becoming a vegan and eat meat. The choice is theirs: have 3 animals die or 2. (http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/218/trollfacezz.png)
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: LooN3y on August 16, 2012, 06:14:19 PM
I have doubled up my meat consumption to take up the slack of vegans.
What you should do is approach a vegan friend and tell them that you will triple your meat eating unless they stop becoming a vegan and eat meat. The choice is theirs: have 3 animals die or 2. (http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/218/trollfacezz.png)


is that really why their vegans?

i always thought it was that "calorie" intake and fat issue.


regardless of reason, vegans are fucking retarded. humans arnt ment to just eat plants
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Sikotic™ on August 16, 2012, 07:55:22 PM
I have doubled up my meat consumption to take up the slack of vegans.
What you should do is approach a vegan friend and tell them that you will triple your meat eating unless they stop becoming a vegan and eat meat. The choice is theirs: have 3 animals die or 2. (http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/218/trollfacezz.png)
LOL

I'ma seriously do that just to see what they say. I know a vegan chick that I can try that on.

The ones who are vegan for health purposes are cool in my book. A lot of people have high blood pressure because of their genetics so a vegan diet keeps that shit at bay.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: LooN3y on August 16, 2012, 08:26:11 PM
I have doubled up my meat consumption to take up the slack of vegans.
What you should do is approach a vegan friend and tell them that you will triple your meat eating unless they stop becoming a vegan and eat meat. The choice is theirs: have 3 animals die or 2. (http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/218/trollfacezz.png)
LOL

I'ma seriously do that just to see what they say. I know a vegan chick that I can try that on.

The ones who are vegan for health purposes are cool in my book. A lot of people have high blood pressure because of their genetics so a vegan diet keeps that shit at bay.


how bout fish chicken? im sure those dont really contribute to high blood pressure.

 i mean if u absolutely cant eat meat or ull get hospitalized thats one thing. but if not who really wants to part from meat? only having a feminine mentality about how thin you are and such and calories would make you part from it. or the stupid mentality of those peta fuckers thinking that no one should eat animals.


anyways i honestly thing substituting meat completely is going to have some health effects for the worse.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Sikotic™ on August 16, 2012, 08:31:35 PM
If you don't eat a variety of vegetables to provide your amino acid intake then you're fucked. The beauty of eating meat is it gives you all the amino acids you need. I think the only vegetable that has all amino acids is quinoa. Otherwise, you gotta mix and match your veggies or you'll be deficient in protein.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Hood Crawler on August 17, 2012, 11:57:22 AM
I don't get the whole vegan thing.  Doesn't seem healthy to me.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: LooN3y on August 17, 2012, 12:10:04 PM
I don't get the whole vegan thing.  Doesn't seem healthy to me.

its not, from what i herd, to have a successful vegan diet, that shit cost bank
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Q U A K E on August 17, 2012, 02:45:13 PM
yeah and people who diss vegans are braindead morons  ::)

manyt studies have shown that the energy u put into your body will have a great effect on ur mind....scientists have proven that by giving positive pep talk while watering p[lants and similarly cursing the plants while watering them daily leads to significantly different results. now theres nothing evil in dirnking milk but currently the way the factory famring is done to get the milk from cows and eggs from hens etc. means that all that torturous compacted heavily medicatied negative energy is comming from the animals and getting into ur spioritual and mental and physical bodies which is one of the main reasons why most americans are obese, unhealthy, mental slaves, group thinking intellectually and spiritually dead....need an example??? ::)

I deny that meat is essential. if u analyze our body, our digestive system, its cealr we are herbivorious not carnivorous...all the facts of our body physiology proves this (canine teeth dont mean shit IMO). still i think meat does have benefits but if ur spiritually conscious its no question. only necessary if ur real weak n  need that boost of extra energy or if u live in high altitude regions then it may be necessary SOMETIMES...

veggies have protein too and too much protein causes cancer...only ppl that work out hardcore even need to worry about protein intake...now FAT INTAKE is sometihng one needs to do research into...too much refined oil and crap fats out there even in animal sources (because of crapppy diet fed to animals which goes back to the point i made earlier about meat from factorirees==junk food and poison)
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Sikotic™ on August 17, 2012, 03:34:05 PM
All the carnivorous animals in nature who eat the intestines of an animal alive and screaming in pain must have a lot of negative energy flowing through them then.

We're made to eat meat. Ignoring the fact that we have canines is ignoring hundreds of thousands of years of evolution that made us capable of eating meat. Our closest genetic ancestors ate meat. Not a necessity but meat consumption is clearly an option and our bodies prove it no matter how much you choose to deny it.

These lies that many vegans tell themselves and try to pass to others as fact are the reason vegans get a bad rap. Do whatever you please with you body but don't try to preach to people with some holier than thou attitude.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: LooN3y on August 17, 2012, 04:35:16 PM
yeah and people who diss vegans are braindead morons  ::)

manyt studies have shown that the energy u put into your body will have a great effect on ur mind....scientists have proven that by giving positive pep talk while watering p[lants and similarly cursing the plants while watering them daily leads to significantly different results. now theres nothing evil in dirnking milk but currently the way the factory famring is done to get the milk from cows and eggs from hens etc. means that all that torturous compacted heavily medicatied negative energy is comming from the animals and getting into ur spioritual and mental and physical bodies which is one of the main reasons why most americans are obese, unhealthy, mental slaves, group thinking intellectually and spiritually dead....need an example??? ::)

I deny that meat is essential. if u analyze our body, our digestive system, its cealr we are herbivorious not carnivorous...all the facts of our body physiology proves this (canine teeth dont mean shit IMO). still i think meat does have benefits but if ur spiritually conscious its no question. only necessary if ur real weak n  need that boost of extra energy or if u live in high altitude regions then it may be necessary SOMETIMES...

veggies have protein too and too much protein causes cancer...only ppl that work out hardcore even need to worry about protein intake...now FAT INTAKE is sometihng one needs to do research into...too much refined oil and crap fats out there even in animal sources (because of crapppy diet fed to animals which goes back to the point i made earlier about meat from factorirees==junk food and poison)


lmao, your talking out of your ass, because of "technology" which is everything from the actual planting of the crop and maintaining it, and how its transported all around the world.

if its all natural, im not sure how ancient human hunter and gatherers are supposed to get all their nutrition from plants. lol u think its natural for them to eat only plants? when there were no such thing as crops? or even a variety, if its so natural ur saying they could of lived off with just pass out on meat whenever they got the chance?


eating just plants is unnatural, the human race didnt survive off that and we naturally eat meat. that shit has bad side effects and to be a real vegan and still get all the nutrients as normal people costs bank. its not cheap, ive seen that shit on the food channel, if your not spending quite alot for groceries, chances you dont know what your doing.


shits so insane, might as well create some meatgan diet and only eat meat, because what your saying is just as ridiculous as that.


most people that go vegan are seriously people that have eating disorders and insecurities, they go vegan to not get "fat" and stay skinny ive seen alot of girls do that, esp asian girls, they eat so horribly, i wouldnt be surprised of miscarriages or early infertility.

the thing is its much easier to get the proteins from meats,  to get it all from plants  its just expensive and a hassle.





korean food can go without meat but we still get alot of protein from tofu and all types of beans.


ive tried american tofu dishes, and its horrible.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Q U A K E on August 17, 2012, 05:14:09 PM
well carniovore animals have monster nature, they prey on others so thats their nature, us humans we can be good or bad...meat eaters or milk drinkers (milk has all nutrients that beef has anyways)...one is noble, one is just an animal....

now look at our body...we have no claws or large teeth to kill animals with...like lions, etc have...

we dont have super-acidic stomachs like lions and other meat eaters do...our ph of stomach and length of small and large intestine is similar to herbivorious animals rather than carnivorous animals...

our hands and teeth are made for eating fruits not killing rabits and such...

thats y i say carnivorous teth doesnt mean shit...it couuold have developed for cutting fibourous vegetbales instead of cutting meat u know...

so i think most important thing about meat is that u get the power of the dead animal which is medically useful for weak individuals and its a good fat source. some people say that in colder cllimates meat is important whereas in tropical climates no1 eats meat traditionally...which seems like a sensible statement to me. in tropical climates theres more microorganisms too so meat is out of question and also one must have greater understanding of herbs and plants to fight disease (in tropical climates theres much mroe diversity of herbs too).... just some ideas...

but ya instead of protein fats is better use for meat...traditional cultures dont eat meat flesh and musle as we do in west...they tend to prize the organs of meats like livvers kidneys hearts etc...these are source of essential vitamins and fats which is what meat is most useful for IMO.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Q U A K E on August 17, 2012, 05:19:54 PM
but seriously all u meat lvoers need to consider karma for a minute...if its possible to live without meat without catchign disease its worth slowly trying to do that in ur diet...but thats for spiritually evolved beings not for genral public, nothing to look down on somebody for....

in our scripptures theres a saying...for a man theres no sin in meat, alcohol or sex....buit for a saint, he realizes that spiritually degrading effects of those activities is not worth his time...so everyone is at different level, tahts the beauty of humanity!!  8)

also...just for a health viewpoint....u know the government is poisoning you right??? research eugenics, population cnotrol and food contamination and u will be amazed  :o
we have so much pollution in our atosophere and since meat is higher up in food chain it accumulates more poisons like lead, mercury etc...
but even our vegetables and fruits are contaminated with pesticides fertilizers etc... so best to just eat organic foods and meats imo.

factory farming of chicken and beef and other animals is so fuckin cruel degrading and POISONOUS, u will be amazed. from antiboditic soups in their blood to paionkillers (these are deadly addictive drugs u know!!) growth hormonse (primary cause of cancer!@!!) and the list goes on for the toxins injected into animals in these factory farms...and the food given to them is horrible poison too...so do th math....

YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT!!! ;D
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Sikotic™ on August 17, 2012, 09:54:41 PM
Yes, we are animals. Sorry to break it down for you holier than thou spiritual types.

Our stomachs have a pH of 1 to 2 depending on what you're digesting at that particular time. that's pretty damn acidic if you ask me or anybody else for that matter. If you don't gorge yourself on meat and eat an appropriate amount, your body digests it with no problems at all. Like I said earlier, stop making things up in order to lie to yourself and give legitimacy to your lifestyle choice.

And let's talk about the dangers of eating a plant based diet:
- Potential to be deficient in essential amino acids
- Like you listed, pesticides/insecticides contamination
- E. coli contamination from sewer water. it's still happening no matter what the FDA says. The plants can only have a certain amount of E. coli during harvesting, but can grow before you consume it.
- Celiac disease
- Potential for diabetes and other issues from bleached and enriched foods stripped of their natural fiber content (simple carbs)

I can argue all of those to be issues that vegans are more susceptible too than a person who generally consumes meat. And unlike your statements, mine are all truth and not hippie conspiracy shit.

So as I eat a juicy medium rare steak with some grilled shrimp 5 minutes from now, I'll let you sit in your own paranoia. Good day, sir.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on August 19, 2012, 12:18:46 PM
Share your experiences that led you to adopt this lifestyle. The moral implications you feel outweigh the joy of eating animal products and such.

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Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on August 19, 2012, 12:31:59 PM
our ph of stomach and length of small and large intestine is similar to herbivorious animals rather than carnivorous animals...
Wrong. A little research goes a long way.
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Like the hard-core carnivores, we have fairly simple digestive systems well suited to the consumption of animal protein, which breaks down quickly. Contrary to what your magazine article says, the human small intestine, at 23 feet, is a little under eight times body length (assuming a mouth-to-anus "body length" of three feet). This is about midway between cats (three times body length), dogs (3-1/2 times), and other well-known meat eaters on the one hand and plant eaters such as cattle (20 to 1) and horses (12 to 1) on the other. This tends to support the idea that we are omnivores.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: rayallen0 on August 19, 2012, 08:04:14 PM
It is possible diaz brothers are vegans and are 2 of the best mma fighters in the world
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on August 19, 2012, 08:05:03 PM
It is possible diaz brothers are vegans and are 2 of the best mma fighters in the world

they were too fragile to play a full season of the NFL
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: rayallen0 on August 19, 2012, 08:26:27 PM
It is possible diaz brothers are vegans and are 2 of the best mma fighters in the world

they were too fragile to play a full season of the NFL
Lol you do get more damage and get stupid as shit in the nfl from constant concussions, so doubt most of them could learn a new diet. But arian foster is a vegan as well  :)

Anyways i eat a shitload of meat but any expert will telk you everybody has a different body and different diets work for different people.

Prince fielder is also a vegan. So basketball seems to be the only sport without a big star vegan
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Russell Bell on August 20, 2012, 07:38:26 PM
vegans barely survived the holocaust and im not necessarily happy about it.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on August 22, 2012, 05:47:03 PM
u werent geneticaly designed or created by god (whichever u prefer), to live on salad

eat meat, ur supposed to
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Fraxxx on August 28, 2012, 11:20:36 AM
If meat wasn't processed like it is nowadays it wouldn't be necessarily unhealthy if consumed in small amounts. But if you're putting shit loads of salt, sugar, fat ect. in your body anyways, you might as well go eat meat everyday.

What I really can't comprehend is how we let the very animals we're supposed to eat "live" under the filthiest circumstances imaginable. I wouldn't purposely eat that junk and make some assholes that don't care for you, their workers or their "product" even richer.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Matty on August 28, 2012, 11:50:58 AM
i'm a semi-vegan, in the sense i'm not fucking with meat right now. but i have no religious views about consuming animals or animal products etc. and i might bust out a ham pizza if i feel like it on any given day.

i do eat fish quite regularly and get a lot of protein from high quality plant based sources. it's more i'm in an experimental phase to find out what type of diet is going to give me optimal health and well being for the long term. and that's without going into some of the more exotic superfoods/herbs, which are much more powerful for raising health and energy levels than normal foods. it gets pretty deep to the level where perceptions about a lot of stuff changes, the more you work on certain energies through nutrition. but it's only part of the bigger picture. there's a huge pool of knowledge to sift through, both on a scientific and esoteric level.

and the comment about different diets being more suitable for different people is very true. if you want to be on your a-game stuff has to be very balanced and there's no one fits all glove. people are generally more yin or yang in nature and different types of foods will benefit people in different ways. there's also a lot of ignorance from people not eating animals for misguided reasons and then not getting all the nutrients they need. but then most people with a 'standard' diet aren't getting all the stuff they need to reach their full potential either. or are ingesting too much hard to deal with stuff. depends on your outlook and if you believe there's potential benefits to the nutrition angle, given the time and cost needed to find out for yourself.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: LooN3y on August 28, 2012, 03:53:14 PM
If meat wasn't processed like it is nowadays it wouldn't be necessarily unhealthy if consumed in small amounts. But if you're putting shit loads of salt, sugar, fat ect. in your body anyways, you might as well go eat meat everyday.

What I really can't comprehend is how we let the very animals we're supposed to eat "live" under the filthiest circumstances imaginable. I wouldn't purposely eat that junk and make some assholes that don't care for you, their workers or their "product" even richer.



? have u been to a farm? that shits dirty, and its been like that ever since. nothing different since the passed hundred years. I've been on a relatives farm, they farm almost exactly how they farmed in korea, back in the days. if its dirty now, its been dirty.


i could imagine even worse conditions for the past, considering the technology, and how much care we put into food care and health, and with all the lawsuits? come on, theres nothing wrong with these farms, they've been like this for a while, just because its now been "exposed" on TV or to the public doesnt change the fact that generations upon generations have eaten the same meats processed the same way. and yea its UP TO THE CONSUMER to limit how much meat they eat.


honestly right now idgaf how much meat i eat, I just turned 23, I'm not going to have a lot more years of eating anything left, so I'm going to enjoy it, and stick to eating bland and unhealthy food later in life.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Fraxxx on August 30, 2012, 01:14:37 AM
If meat wasn't processed like it is nowadays it wouldn't be necessarily unhealthy if consumed in small amounts. But if you're putting shit loads of salt, sugar, fat ect. in your body anyways, you might as well go eat meat everyday.

What I really can't comprehend is how we let the very animals we're supposed to eat "live" under the filthiest circumstances imaginable. I wouldn't purposely eat that junk and make some assholes that don't care for you, their workers or their "product" even richer.



? have u been to a farm? that shits dirty, and its been like that ever since. nothing different since the passed hundred years. I've been on a relatives farm, they farm almost exactly how they farmed in korea, back in the days. if its dirty now, its been dirty.


i could imagine even worse conditions for the past, considering the technology, and how much care we put into food care and health, and with all the lawsuits? come on, theres nothing wrong with these farms, they've been like this for a while, just because its now been "exposed" on TV or to the public doesnt change the fact that generations upon generations have eaten the same meats processed the same way. and yea its UP TO THE CONSUMER to limit how much meat they eat.


honestly right now idgaf how much meat i eat, I just turned 23, I'm not going to have a lot more years of eating anything left, so I'm going to enjoy it, and stick to eating bland and unhealthy food later in life.

No, it's not like it always has been. Food care and health are a joke to the corporations. Did you read eating animals?  Or watch Food Inc. for example.
 
http://vimeo.com/30620523

Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on August 31, 2012, 10:23:21 AM
it's more i'm in an experimental phase to find out what type of diet is going to give me optimal health and well being for the long term.

just drink white tea 4 times day,, if you can afford it
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on August 31, 2012, 03:38:26 PM
u werent geneticaly designed or created by god (whichever u prefer), to live on salad


can't it be both ;)
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Sikotic™ on August 31, 2012, 10:30:15 PM
Maybe God designed my intestines which are gonna shit out this 8oz. of prime rib I ate for dinner 3 hours ago.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Q U A K E on September 10, 2012, 05:24:49 PM
any of u deniers ever heard about the food chain??? u know that works in terms of poisons too right??? so if pesticide grown food has 5% poison per weight....something higher up in the food chain, like rabbit has more than that, lets say 10% poison per weight...and lion would have highest, like 20% in food chain...

so in that light, in our polluted and intentionally poisoned world....u realy think meat is healthy for u?>?? shit even dairy sold in stores is incredibly unhealthy for u. nothing is safe anymore except organic vegetarian and meat foods...

studies have proven what i say...meat eaters get more cancer and live less.

just open ur eyes and compare lion, tiger, dog, their claws their teeth, their behavior from a humans....our stomach ph is not 0 like meat eaters', its a 1 on empty stomach and increases to 4-5 with food in our bellies, compared to carnivores who keep their acid 0-1 at all times. carnivores eat meals rarely, not eevn daily...we have to eat multiple times daily...

if what ur eyes show u still cant be comprehended by ur "educated" brains, check this out::



William C. Roberts, M.D., editor, American Journal of Cardiology

From "The Comparative Anatomy of Eating", by Milton R. Mills, MD



Facial Muscles
CARNIVORE: Reduced to allow wide mouth gape
HERBIVORE: Well-developed
OMNIVORE: Reduced
HUMAN: Well-developed

Jaw Type
CARNIVORE: Angle not expanded
HERBIVORE: Expanded angle
OMNIVORE: Angle not expanded
HUMAN: Expanded angle

Jaw Joint Location
CARNIVORE: On same plane as molar teeth
HERBIVORE: Above the plane of the molars
OMNIVORE: On same plane as molar teeth
HUMAN: Above the plane of the molars

Jaw Motion
CARNIVORE: Shearing; minimal side-to-side motion
HERBIVORE: No shear; good side-to-side, front-to-back
OMNIVORE: Shearing; minimal side-to-side
HUMAN: No shear; good side-to-side, front-to-back

Major Jaw Muscles
CARNIVORE: Temporalis
HERBIVORE: Masseter and pterygoids
OMNIVORE: Temporalis
HUMAN: Masseter and pterygoids

Mouth Opening vs. Head Size
CARNIVORE: Large
HERBIVORE: Small
OMNIVORE: Large
HUMAN: Small

Teeth: Incisors
CARNIVORE: Short and pointed
HERBIVORE: Broad, flattened and spade shaped
OMNIVORE: Short and pointed
HUMAN: Broad, flattened and spade shaped

Teeth: Canines
CARNIVORE: Long, sharp and curved
HERBIVORE: Dull and short or long (for defense), or none
OMNIVORE: Long, sharp and curved
HUMAN: Short and blunted

Teeth: Molars
CARNIVORE: Sharp, jagged and blade shaped
HERBIVORE: Flattened with cusps vs complex surface
OMNIVORE: Sharp blades and/or flattened
HUMAN: Flattened with nodular cusps

Chewing
CARNIVORE: None; swallows food whole
HERBIVORE: Extensive chewing necessary
OMNIVORE: Swallows food whole and/or simple crushing
HUMAN: Extensive chewing necessary

Saliva
CARNIVORE: No digestive enzymes
HERBIVORE: Carbohydrate digesting enzymes
OMNIVORE: No digestive enzymes
HUMAN: Carbohydrate digesting enzymes

Stomach Type
CARNIVORE: Simple
HERBIVORE: Simple or multiple chambers
OMNIVORE: Simple
HUMAN: Simple

Stomach Acidity
CARNIVORE: Less than or equal to pH 1 with food in stomach
HERBIVORE: pH 4 to 5 with food in stomach
OMNIVORE: Less than or equal to pH 1 with food in stomach
HUMAN: pH 4 to 5 with food in stomach

Stomach Capacity
CARNIVORE: 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract
HERBIVORE: Less than 30% of total volume of digestive tract
OMNIVORE: 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract
HUMAN: 21% to 27% of total volume of digestive tract

Length of Small Intestine
CARNIVORE: 3 to 6 times body length
HERBIVORE: 10 to more than 12 times body length
OMNIVORE: 4 to 6 times body length
HUMAN: 10 to 11 times body length

Colon
CARNIVORE: Simple, short and smooth
HERBIVORE: Long, complex; may be sacculated
OMNIVORE: Simple, short and smooth
HUMAN: Long, sacculated

Liver
CARNIVORE: Can detoxify vitamin A
HERBIVORE: Cannot detoxify vitamin A
OMNIVORE: Can detoxify vitamin A
HUMAN: Cannot detoxify vitamin A

Kidney
CARNIVORE: Extremely concentrated urine
HERBIVORE: Moderately concentrated urine
OMNIVORE: Extremely concentrated urine
HUMAN: Moderately concentrated urine

Nails
CARNIVORE: Sharp claws
HERBIVORE: Flattened nails or blunt hooves
OMNIVORE: Sharp claws
HUMAN: Flattened nails



"If you look at various characteristics of carnivores (meat-eaters) versus herbivores (non-meat eaters), it doesn't take a genius to see where humans compare"

William C. Roberts, M.D., editor, American Journal of Cardiology


Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Discuss:Are_humans_omnivores_or_herbivores#ixzz267F8wmqw

look if u wanna eat meat, u should have the freedom to choose...but dont except to be called civilized or sscientific...eating meat makes u mentally more like a carnivore, less like a human which is something we all need a bigger dose of..

meat has its benefits, but its more like a tonic or medicine than a nutrition we NEED...

we dont need so much protein, proteins cause cancer...meat is better for fat source anyways, we need lotta fats...dont believe da hype  8)
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on September 11, 2012, 03:12:15 AM
any of u deniers ever heard about the food chain??? u know that works in terms of poisons too right??? so if pesticide grown food has 5% poison per weight....something higher up in the food chain, like rabbit has more than that, lets say 10% poison per weight...and lion would have highest, like 20% in food chain...

so in that light, in our polluted and intentionally poisoned world....u realy think meat is healthy for u?>?? shit even dairy sold in stores is incredibly unhealthy for u. nothing is safe anymore except organic vegetarian and meat foods...

studies have proven what i say...meat eaters get more cancer and live less.

just open ur eyes and compare lion, tiger, dog, their claws their teeth, their behavior from a humans....our stomach ph is not 0 like meat eaters', its a 1 on empty stomach and increases to 4-5 with food in our bellies, compared to carnivores who keep their acid 0-1 at all times. carnivores eat meals rarely, not eevn daily...we have to eat multiple times daily...

if what ur eyes show u still cant be comprehended by ur "educated" brains, check this out::



William C. Roberts, M.D., editor, American Journal of Cardiology

From "The Comparative Anatomy of Eating", by Milton R. Mills, MD



Facial Muscles
CARNIVORE: Reduced to allow wide mouth gape
HERBIVORE: Well-developed
OMNIVORE: Reduced
HUMAN: Well-developed

Jaw Type
CARNIVORE: Angle not expanded
HERBIVORE: Expanded angle
OMNIVORE: Angle not expanded
HUMAN: Expanded angle

Jaw Joint Location
CARNIVORE: On same plane as molar teeth
HERBIVORE: Above the plane of the molars
OMNIVORE: On same plane as molar teeth
HUMAN: Above the plane of the molars

Jaw Motion
CARNIVORE: Shearing; minimal side-to-side motion
HERBIVORE: No shear; good side-to-side, front-to-back
OMNIVORE: Shearing; minimal side-to-side
HUMAN: No shear; good side-to-side, front-to-back

Major Jaw Muscles
CARNIVORE: Temporalis
HERBIVORE: Masseter and pterygoids
OMNIVORE: Temporalis
HUMAN: Masseter and pterygoids

Mouth Opening vs. Head Size
CARNIVORE: Large
HERBIVORE: Small
OMNIVORE: Large
HUMAN: Small

Teeth: Incisors
CARNIVORE: Short and pointed
HERBIVORE: Broad, flattened and spade shaped
OMNIVORE: Short and pointed
HUMAN: Broad, flattened and spade shaped

Teeth: Canines
CARNIVORE: Long, sharp and curved
HERBIVORE: Dull and short or long (for defense), or none
OMNIVORE: Long, sharp and curved
HUMAN: Short and blunted

Teeth: Molars
CARNIVORE: Sharp, jagged and blade shaped
HERBIVORE: Flattened with cusps vs complex surface
OMNIVORE: Sharp blades and/or flattened
HUMAN: Flattened with nodular cusps

Chewing
CARNIVORE: None; swallows food whole
HERBIVORE: Extensive chewing necessary
OMNIVORE: Swallows food whole and/or simple crushing
HUMAN: Extensive chewing necessary

Saliva
CARNIVORE: No digestive enzymes
HERBIVORE: Carbohydrate digesting enzymes
OMNIVORE: No digestive enzymes
HUMAN: Carbohydrate digesting enzymes

Stomach Type
CARNIVORE: Simple
HERBIVORE: Simple or multiple chambers
OMNIVORE: Simple
HUMAN: Simple

Stomach Acidity
CARNIVORE: Less than or equal to pH 1 with food in stomach
HERBIVORE: pH 4 to 5 with food in stomach
OMNIVORE: Less than or equal to pH 1 with food in stomach
HUMAN: pH 4 to 5 with food in stomach

Stomach Capacity
CARNIVORE: 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract
HERBIVORE: Less than 30% of total volume of digestive tract
OMNIVORE: 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract
HUMAN: 21% to 27% of total volume of digestive tract

Length of Small Intestine
CARNIVORE: 3 to 6 times body length
HERBIVORE: 10 to more than 12 times body length
OMNIVORE: 4 to 6 times body length
HUMAN: 10 to 11 times body length

Colon
CARNIVORE: Simple, short and smooth
HERBIVORE: Long, complex; may be sacculated
OMNIVORE: Simple, short and smooth
HUMAN: Long, sacculated

Liver
CARNIVORE: Can detoxify vitamin A
HERBIVORE: Cannot detoxify vitamin A
OMNIVORE: Can detoxify vitamin A
HUMAN: Cannot detoxify vitamin A

Kidney
CARNIVORE: Extremely concentrated urine
HERBIVORE: Moderately concentrated urine
OMNIVORE: Extremely concentrated urine
HUMAN: Moderately concentrated urine

Nails
CARNIVORE: Sharp claws
HERBIVORE: Flattened nails or blunt hooves
OMNIVORE: Sharp claws
HUMAN: Flattened nails



"If you look at various characteristics of carnivores (meat-eaters) versus herbivores (non-meat eaters), it doesn't take a genius to see where humans compare"

William C. Roberts, M.D., editor, American Journal of Cardiology


Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Discuss:Are_humans_omnivores_or_herbivores#ixzz267F8wmqw

look if u wanna eat meat, u should have the freedom to choose...but dont except to be called civilized or sscientific...eating meat makes u mentally more like a carnivore, less like a human which is something we all need a bigger dose of..

meat has its benefits, but its more like a tonic or medicine than a nutrition we NEED...

we dont need so much protein, proteins cause cancer...meat is better for fat source anyways, we need lotta fats...dont believe da hype  8)

great point,
but still sounds just like something a vegetarian would say to me.  humans are mammals, mammals eat meat, so do humans

Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Fraxxx on September 11, 2012, 02:15:58 PM
Sure, naturally we are omnivores but the amounts of meat, processed meat to add, we eat have increased a lot. That's a key problem healthwise. Sure, meat on fire is fuckin manly, heart disease or cancer is not.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: LooN3y on September 11, 2012, 10:09:02 PM
any of u deniers ever heard about the food chain??? u know that works in terms of poisons too right??? so if pesticide grown food has 5% poison per weight....something higher up in the food chain, like rabbit has more than that, lets say 10% poison per weight...and lion would have highest, like 20% in food chain...

so in that light, in our polluted and intentionally poisoned world....u realy think meat is healthy for u?>?? shit even dairy sold in stores is incredibly unhealthy for u. nothing is safe anymore except organic vegetarian and meat foods...

studies have proven what i say...meat eaters get more cancer and live less.

just open ur eyes and compare lion, tiger, dog, their claws their teeth, their behavior from a humans....our stomach ph is not 0 like meat eaters', its a 1 on empty stomach and increases to 4-5 with food in our bellies, compared to carnivores who keep their acid 0-1 at all times. carnivores eat meals rarely, not eevn daily...we have to eat multiple times daily...

if what ur eyes show u still cant be comprehended by ur "educated" brains, check this out::



William C. Roberts, M.D., editor, American Journal of Cardiology

From "The Comparative Anatomy of Eating", by Milton R. Mills, MD



Facial Muscles
CARNIVORE: Reduced to allow wide mouth gape
HERBIVORE: Well-developed
OMNIVORE: Reduced
HUMAN: Well-developed

Jaw Type
CARNIVORE: Angle not expanded
HERBIVORE: Expanded angle
OMNIVORE: Angle not expanded
HUMAN: Expanded angle

Jaw Joint Location
CARNIVORE: On same plane as molar teeth
HERBIVORE: Above the plane of the molars
OMNIVORE: On same plane as molar teeth
HUMAN: Above the plane of the molars

Jaw Motion
CARNIVORE: Shearing; minimal side-to-side motion
HERBIVORE: No shear; good side-to-side, front-to-back
OMNIVORE: Shearing; minimal side-to-side
HUMAN: No shear; good side-to-side, front-to-back

Major Jaw Muscles
CARNIVORE: Temporalis
HERBIVORE: Masseter and pterygoids
OMNIVORE: Temporalis
HUMAN: Masseter and pterygoids

Mouth Opening vs. Head Size
CARNIVORE: Large
HERBIVORE: Small
OMNIVORE: Large
HUMAN: Small

Teeth: Incisors
CARNIVORE: Short and pointed
HERBIVORE: Broad, flattened and spade shaped
OMNIVORE: Short and pointed
HUMAN: Broad, flattened and spade shaped

Teeth: Canines
CARNIVORE: Long, sharp and curved
HERBIVORE: Dull and short or long (for defense), or none
OMNIVORE: Long, sharp and curved
HUMAN: Short and blunted

Teeth: Molars
CARNIVORE: Sharp, jagged and blade shaped
HERBIVORE: Flattened with cusps vs complex surface
OMNIVORE: Sharp blades and/or flattened
HUMAN: Flattened with nodular cusps

Chewing
CARNIVORE: None; swallows food whole
HERBIVORE: Extensive chewing necessary
OMNIVORE: Swallows food whole and/or simple crushing
HUMAN: Extensive chewing necessary

Saliva
CARNIVORE: No digestive enzymes
HERBIVORE: Carbohydrate digesting enzymes
OMNIVORE: No digestive enzymes
HUMAN: Carbohydrate digesting enzymes

Stomach Type
CARNIVORE: Simple
HERBIVORE: Simple or multiple chambers
OMNIVORE: Simple
HUMAN: Simple

Stomach Acidity
CARNIVORE: Less than or equal to pH 1 with food in stomach
HERBIVORE: pH 4 to 5 with food in stomach
OMNIVORE: Less than or equal to pH 1 with food in stomach
HUMAN: pH 4 to 5 with food in stomach

Stomach Capacity
CARNIVORE: 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract
HERBIVORE: Less than 30% of total volume of digestive tract
OMNIVORE: 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract
HUMAN: 21% to 27% of total volume of digestive tract

Length of Small Intestine
CARNIVORE: 3 to 6 times body length
HERBIVORE: 10 to more than 12 times body length
OMNIVORE: 4 to 6 times body length
HUMAN: 10 to 11 times body length

Colon
CARNIVORE: Simple, short and smooth
HERBIVORE: Long, complex; may be sacculated
OMNIVORE: Simple, short and smooth
HUMAN: Long, sacculated

Liver
CARNIVORE: Can detoxify vitamin A
HERBIVORE: Cannot detoxify vitamin A
OMNIVORE: Can detoxify vitamin A
HUMAN: Cannot detoxify vitamin A

Kidney
CARNIVORE: Extremely concentrated urine
HERBIVORE: Moderately concentrated urine
OMNIVORE: Extremely concentrated urine
HUMAN: Moderately concentrated urine

Nails
CARNIVORE: Sharp claws
HERBIVORE: Flattened nails or blunt hooves
OMNIVORE: Sharp claws
HUMAN: Flattened nails



"If you look at various characteristics of carnivores (meat-eaters) versus herbivores (non-meat eaters), it doesn't take a genius to see where humans compare"

William C. Roberts, M.D., editor, American Journal of Cardiology


Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Discuss:Are_humans_omnivores_or_herbivores#ixzz267F8wmqw

look if u wanna eat meat, u should have the freedom to choose...but dont except to be called civilized or sscientific...eating meat makes u mentally more like a carnivore, less like a human which is something we all need a bigger dose of..

meat has its benefits, but its more like a tonic or medicine than a nutrition we NEED...

we dont need so much protein, proteins cause cancer...meat is better for fat source anyways, we need lotta fats...dont believe da hype  8)


lol less like a human? says who? who determines whats less human or more human?


nobody, lol that is so arbitrary.


anyways, you act like if you dont eat meat your going to live forever, your gonna die anyways, i rahter live my life enjoying all the different meats and how its prepared.

but doesnt mean i dont like fruits, veggis, and grains.


first and foremost vegans are fags, i dont care if your a UFC fighter or not that is some womanly type of shit right there.


secondly 95% of vegans are unhealthy as fuck, you know how expensive it is to be a  full vegans? especially the headaches to get all the protein pills and buy all that special type of crap to eat?


lol most meat eaters (obviously the ones that arnt obese) are much healthier than these supposed "vegans", they get all their nutrients and proteins and it isnt a bitch either or cost and absurd amount of money, jsut to be "slim", and there IS ABSOLUTELY NO OTHE REASON WHY U WOULD BE ONE EXCEPT BECAUSE OF YOUR FIGURE.


shit is gettin ridiculous, lol every "vegan" or "vegetarian" i met or known someone become one, are unhealthy as fuck, all they eat is salad, fruits, veggies, and soup, and its ridiculous because they eat like a small leafe of a salad, half of a fruit, half of a vegetable for a whole meal, and than go out on a night of drinkin, or drugs etcc, and these fuckers wonder why they get feel so weak when they do out door activities  shit is retarded. and its just sad and pathetic. lol these people are hell of a lot more prone to cancer, than the average person. their bodies get weak, if u dont get the needed proteins. (those UFC fighters mentioned before, i bet spend a ridiculous amount of money to get all the nutrients they need, something an average person cant afford)


its like saying "im not eating sugar" or  shit "im not drinking water"  these same "vegans" are usually the ones that go on a all liquid diet, like thats fucking healthy. these lazy fucks just need to go work out if their so insecure about their bodies and ruin them.


we're not meant to be vegans period. and what does OTHER people eating alot of meat have to do with an individual, if u really want a healthier life style, eat less meat, eat meat every other day or mayb just 4 times a week and eat lean meat.

but to just stop is just full blown retarded to me, and a waste of money (if your rich enough to afford that correct type of diet and keep your standard of living) shit is ridiculous, you can be spending that money on better things than on your fucking meal.

buy yourself something worth while, or heck buy something for your family, that is if u were eating the diet the right way, which would just thousands upon thousands over the years.


theres no reason why someone should just stop eating meat completely, limit yet, but completely stop is full blown retarded. health and financial wise. funny thing is some people say it like their proud, i swear, these guys need to be killed off, i dont want my future kids following their footsteps and become unhealthy anorexic losers
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Sikotic™ on September 11, 2012, 10:13:24 PM
anyways, you act like if you dont eat meat your going to live forever, your gonna die anyways, i rahter live my life enjoying all the different meats and how its prepared.
LMAO! realest shit you ever said Loon3y.

WE ARE ALL GONNA BE DEAD IN 50-60 YEARS!!!

And chances are, If I eat a diet of meat with some vegetables as well, I will live just as long as the guy who tortures himself eating tofurkey.

Enjoy this life. We really don't know what the fuck is gonna happen after.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on September 11, 2012, 10:34:14 PM
any of u deniers ever heard about the food chain??? u know that works in terms of poisons too right??? so if pesticide grown food has 5% poison per weight....something higher up in the food chain, like rabbit has more than that, lets say 10% poison per weight...and lion would have highest, like 20% in food chain...

so in that light, in our polluted and intentionally poisoned world....u realy think meat is healthy for u?>?? shit even dairy sold in stores is incredibly unhealthy for u. nothing is safe anymore except organic vegetarian and meat foods...

studies have proven what i say...meat eaters get more cancer and live less.

just open ur eyes and compare lion, tiger, dog, their claws their teeth, their behavior from a humans....our stomach ph is not 0 like meat eaters', its a 1 on empty stomach and increases to 4-5 with food in our bellies, compared to carnivores who keep their acid 0-1 at all times. carnivores eat meals rarely, not eevn daily...we have to eat multiple times daily...

if what ur eyes show u still cant be comprehended by ur "educated" brains, check this out::



William C. Roberts, M.D., editor, American Journal of Cardiology

From "The Comparative Anatomy of Eating", by Milton R. Mills, MD



Facial Muscles
CARNIVORE: Reduced to allow wide mouth gape
HERBIVORE: Well-developed
OMNIVORE: Reduced
HUMAN: Well-developed

Jaw Type
CARNIVORE: Angle not expanded
HERBIVORE: Expanded angle
OMNIVORE: Angle not expanded
HUMAN: Expanded angle

Jaw Joint Location
CARNIVORE: On same plane as molar teeth
HERBIVORE: Above the plane of the molars
OMNIVORE: On same plane as molar teeth
HUMAN: Above the plane of the molars

Jaw Motion
CARNIVORE: Shearing; minimal side-to-side motion
HERBIVORE: No shear; good side-to-side, front-to-back
OMNIVORE: Shearing; minimal side-to-side
HUMAN: No shear; good side-to-side, front-to-back

Major Jaw Muscles
CARNIVORE: Temporalis
HERBIVORE: Masseter and pterygoids
OMNIVORE: Temporalis
HUMAN: Masseter and pterygoids

Mouth Opening vs. Head Size
CARNIVORE: Large
HERBIVORE: Small
OMNIVORE: Large
HUMAN: Small

Teeth: Incisors
CARNIVORE: Short and pointed
HERBIVORE: Broad, flattened and spade shaped
OMNIVORE: Short and pointed
HUMAN: Broad, flattened and spade shaped

Teeth: Canines
CARNIVORE: Long, sharp and curved
HERBIVORE: Dull and short or long (for defense), or none
OMNIVORE: Long, sharp and curved
HUMAN: Short and blunted

Teeth: Molars
CARNIVORE: Sharp, jagged and blade shaped
HERBIVORE: Flattened with cusps vs complex surface
OMNIVORE: Sharp blades and/or flattened
HUMAN: Flattened with nodular cusps

Chewing
CARNIVORE: None; swallows food whole
HERBIVORE: Extensive chewing necessary
OMNIVORE: Swallows food whole and/or simple crushing
HUMAN: Extensive chewing necessary

Saliva
CARNIVORE: No digestive enzymes
HERBIVORE: Carbohydrate digesting enzymes
OMNIVORE: No digestive enzymes
HUMAN: Carbohydrate digesting enzymes

Stomach Type
CARNIVORE: Simple
HERBIVORE: Simple or multiple chambers
OMNIVORE: Simple
HUMAN: Simple

Stomach Acidity
CARNIVORE: Less than or equal to pH 1 with food in stomach
HERBIVORE: pH 4 to 5 with food in stomach
OMNIVORE: Less than or equal to pH 1 with food in stomach
HUMAN: pH 4 to 5 with food in stomach

Stomach Capacity
CARNIVORE: 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract
HERBIVORE: Less than 30% of total volume of digestive tract
OMNIVORE: 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract
HUMAN: 21% to 27% of total volume of digestive tract

Length of Small Intestine
CARNIVORE: 3 to 6 times body length
HERBIVORE: 10 to more than 12 times body length
OMNIVORE: 4 to 6 times body length
HUMAN: 10 to 11 times body length

Colon
CARNIVORE: Simple, short and smooth
HERBIVORE: Long, complex; may be sacculated
OMNIVORE: Simple, short and smooth
HUMAN: Long, sacculated

Liver
CARNIVORE: Can detoxify vitamin A
HERBIVORE: Cannot detoxify vitamin A
OMNIVORE: Can detoxify vitamin A
HUMAN: Cannot detoxify vitamin A

Kidney
CARNIVORE: Extremely concentrated urine
HERBIVORE: Moderately concentrated urine
OMNIVORE: Extremely concentrated urine
HUMAN: Moderately concentrated urine

Nails
CARNIVORE: Sharp claws
HERBIVORE: Flattened nails or blunt hooves
OMNIVORE: Sharp claws
HUMAN: Flattened nails



"If you look at various characteristics of carnivores (meat-eaters) versus herbivores (non-meat eaters), it doesn't take a genius to see where humans compare"

William C. Roberts, M.D., editor, American Journal of Cardiology


Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Discuss:Are_humans_omnivores_or_herbivores#ixzz267F8wmqw

look if u wanna eat meat, u should have the freedom to choose...but dont except to be called civilized or sscientific...eating meat makes u mentally more like a carnivore, less like a human which is something we all need a bigger dose of..

meat has its benefits, but its more like a tonic or medicine than a nutrition we NEED...

we dont need so much protein, proteins cause cancer...meat is better for fat source anyways, we need lotta fats...dont believe da hype  8)


lol less like a human? says who? who determines whats less human or more human?


nobody, lol that is so arbitrary.


anyways, you act like if you dont eat meat your going to live forever, your gonna die anyways, i rahter live my life enjoying all the different meats and how its prepared.

but doesnt mean i dont like fruits, veggis, and grains.


first and foremost vegans are fags, i dont care if your a UFC fighter or not that is some womanly type of shit right there.

both vegans & vegeterians are wrong for eatin like they do
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on September 11, 2012, 10:51:18 PM
look if u wanna eat meat, u should have the freedom to choose...but dont except to be called civilized or sscientific...eating meat makes u mentally more like a carnivore, less like a human which is something we all need a bigger dose of..


LMAO!@!!!!!!  what a dumbass
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Fraxxx on September 12, 2012, 03:12:04 AM
and there IS ABSOLUTELY NO OTHE REASON WHY U WOULD BE ONE EXCEPT BECAUSE OF YOUR FIGURE.

Man, you got completely figured out. Must feel good.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: LooN3y on September 12, 2012, 09:46:53 AM
and there IS ABSOLUTELY NO OTHE REASON WHY U WOULD BE ONE EXCEPT BECAUSE OF YOUR FIGURE.

Man, you got completely figured out. Must feel good.

Lol than give me a good reason why u should be a vegan, don't give me the cancer  crap, one could just simply intake less meat if their concerned about health.

Like I said unless ur willing to spend bank on ur diet unnecessarily  (what kind of average person would be able to afford that, if so it'll be at the expense of their standard of living, family, kids, wtvrs). Shits ridiculous.


It's not healthy and it's not good to go completely without meat, 99.9%, hell 100% of them do it because they wanna be skinny, none I've seen ever look healthy at all, they look pale, exhausted and anorexic
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Fraxxx on September 14, 2012, 02:07:38 AM
and there IS ABSOLUTELY NO OTHE REASON WHY U WOULD BE ONE EXCEPT BECAUSE OF YOUR FIGURE.

Man, you got completely figured out. Must feel good.

Lol than give me a good reason why u should be a vegan, don't give me the cancer  crap, one could just simply intake less meat if their concerned about health.

Like I said unless ur willing to spend bank on ur diet unnecessarily  (what kind of average person would be able to afford that, if so it'll be at the expense of their standard of living, family, kids, wtvrs). Shits ridiculous.


It's not healthy and it's not good to go completely without meat, 99.9%, hell 100% of them do it because they wanna be skinny, none I've seen ever look healthy at all, they look pale, exhausted and anorexic

LOL If that's your honest opinion (and all the weird shit from your previous post) and you can't think of any other motives by yourself, this discussion is rather pointless.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: LooN3y on September 14, 2012, 04:58:55 AM
and there IS ABSOLUTELY NO OTHE REASON WHY U WOULD BE ONE EXCEPT BECAUSE OF YOUR FIGURE.

Man, you got completely figured out. Must feel good.

Lol than give me a good reason why u should be a vegan, don't give me the cancer  crap, one could just simply intake less meat if their concerned about health.

Like I said unless ur willing to spend bank on ur diet unnecessarily  (what kind of average person would be able to afford that, if so it'll be at the expense of their standard of living, family, kids, wtvrs). Shits ridiculous.


It's not healthy and it's not good to go completely without meat, 99.9%, hell 100% of them do it because they wanna be skinny, none I've seen ever look healthy at all, they look pale, exhausted and anorexic

LOL If that's your honest opinion (and all the weird shit from your previous post) and you can't think of any other motives by yourself, this discussion is rather pointless.

Lol how is that pointless, how r u going to justify something we weren't naturally meant to do?

U goddamn know that I'm 99.9% right, cuz damn right nobody doesn't eat meat for the taste. Diet is extremely expensive so if ur wealthy ( shit not even the rich, because who the fuck
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: LooN3y on September 14, 2012, 05:10:28 AM
and there IS ABSOLUTELY NO OTHE REASON WHY U WOULD BE ONE EXCEPT BECAUSE OF YOUR FIGURE.

Man, you got completely figured out. Must feel good.

Lol than give me a good reason why u should be a vegan, don't give me the cancer  crap, one could just simply intake less meat if their concerned about health.

Like I said unless ur willing to spend bank on ur diet unnecessarily  (what kind of average person would be able to afford that, if so it'll be at the expense of their standard of living, family, kids, wtvrs). Shits ridiculous.


It's not healthy and it's not good to go completely without meat, 99.9%, hell 100% of them do it because they wanna be skinny, none I've seen ever look healthy at all, they look pale, exhausted and anorexic

LOL If that's your honest opinion (and all the weird shit from your previous post) and you can't think of any other motives by yourself, this discussion is rather pointless.


U goddamn know that I'm 99.9% right, cuz damn right nobody doesn't eat meat for the taste. Diet is extremely expensive so if ur wealthy ( shit not even the rich, because who the fuck In their right mind is going to spend that much effort and money just to be a vegan) pretty much if ur a vegan, ur either some aneroxic piece or garbage with insecurities, or some fag that didn't eat meat beacause nits "wrong to hurt animals" type of bullshit, even though we've been eating meat since this homosapien race came to existence, lol the fact is the farming of food is far fro
 Natural. Shit like this is retarded, look at India (I've been the couple of times) their country starves and die because the cows are "sacred", when they can easily feed the country.

Anyways good shit, it kills of the retards that try to live that type of unhealthy lifestyle and Gives us normal mother fuckers to eat more meat, which in 50 years is going to b expensive as fuck if It doesn't come from an animal called a chicken

Lol i truly wonder what's next, no more air, it's too unhealthy and dirty, we can only breathe out of oxygen tanks. Lmao


Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on September 14, 2012, 06:46:24 AM
and there IS ABSOLUTELY NO OTHE REASON WHY U WOULD BE ONE EXCEPT BECAUSE OF YOUR FIGURE.

Man, you got completely figured out. Must feel good.

Lol than give me a good reason why u should be a vegan, don't give me the cancer  crap, one could just simply intake less meat if their concerned about health.

Like I said unless ur willing to spend bank on ur diet unnecessarily  (what kind of average person would be able to afford that, if so it'll be at the expense of their standard of living, family, kids, wtvrs). Shits ridiculous.


It's not healthy and it's not good to go completely without meat, 99.9%, hell 100% of them do it because they wanna be skinny, none I've seen ever look healthy at all, they look pale, exhausted and anorexic

LOL If that's your honest opinion (and all the weird shit from your previous post) and you can't think of any other motives by yourself, this discussion is rather pointless.


 Natural. Shit like this is retarded, look at India (I've been the couple of times) their country starves and die because the cows are "sacred", when they can easily feed the country.




not to mention, that India has a population of 1.22 billion people.
 and still it is like the home to a quarter of the world's cow population or something.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Sikotic™ on September 14, 2012, 09:22:21 AM
I would just like to let everyone know that I had a big fat juicy steak last night. I've never felt so alive.

Carry on......
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: rayallen0 on September 14, 2012, 11:31:24 AM
Lol at how passionate ppl get about someone elses diet.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Sikotic™ on September 14, 2012, 10:15:23 PM
I just ate the fuck outta some chicken tonight.

Looks like I am no longer human. Just animal.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: rayallen0 on September 14, 2012, 10:30:29 PM
Eaten pig & chicken so far today.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on September 17, 2012, 10:39:08 PM
Lol at how passionate ppl get about someone elses diet.

vegeterians have alwasy been like that. they treat their moral like a religion
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: LooN3y on September 18, 2012, 06:38:09 AM
If your a vegetarian please turn in our cock and balls
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on September 18, 2012, 06:42:52 AM

http://www.eatmedaily.com/2008/10/meat-after-meat-joy-art-gallery-show/
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Fraxxx on September 18, 2012, 07:08:13 AM
If your a vegetarian please turn in our cock and balls

Sorry, don't have them. When did you lose them?
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Fraxxx on September 18, 2012, 07:16:44 AM
Lol at how passionate ppl get about someone elses diet.

vegeterians have alwasy been like that. they treat their moral like a religion

Which, of course, seems funny to someone who only treats DPG like his religion.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: MistaNova on September 18, 2012, 07:24:45 AM
I had Chicken McNuggets for breakfast, salmon for lunch and a cheeseburger for dinner. On a scale of 1-10 how inhumane am I?
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: LooN3y on September 18, 2012, 08:24:20 AM
If your a vegetarian please turn in our cock and balls

Sorry, don't have them. When did you lose them?

Your*

doesnt take a genius to figure that one out.


keep on living life eating veggies im damn sure ur not going to live that many years than me. and i damn sure dont want to live till im 90
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Fraxxx on September 18, 2012, 08:43:39 AM
If your a vegetarian please turn in our cock and balls

Sorry, don't have them. When did you lose them?

Your*

doesnt take a genius to figure that one out.


keep on living life eating veggies im damn sure ur not going to live that many years than me. and i damn sure dont want to live till im 90

No shit! I just found it ironic that you would make that mistake right there when you're trying to shit on somebody. Doesn't take a genius to figure that one out either.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Sikotic™ on September 18, 2012, 12:16:07 PM
I went to one of those Brazilian chrrascarias (sp) last night. All you can eat meat. They bring the shit straight off the fire on skewers for you.

I literally ate like 5 pounds of meat. Chickens, lamb, beef. They had this filet mignon wrapped in bacon. Oh god, it was better than sex.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on September 18, 2012, 06:43:18 PM
had a hamburger tonight for dinner  8)
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Furor Teutonicus on September 19, 2012, 06:56:14 AM
Well, I think the best way, like with all pleasures of life, is to do it in moderation.

I can understand and to an extent admire people who live vegan/vegetarian for ethical reasons, industrialized meat production is a shame for mankind and our high meat consume is wasteful.

However, a complete abdiction of animal food for health reasons is hysteria. Sure, eating less meat is healthier, but most of us get cancer or cardio-vascular diseases anway since there are enough other factors around. So I agree, instead of living approximately a few years longer one should enjoy some good meat now and then. Bad Genes can ruin your life anyway and greatly influence the likehood of diseases no matter how you live.
It's not always the animal food itself, but how it is cooked. If it's not always the fatty hamburger or chicken wing from the food chains meat can contribute to a good and relatively healthy meal.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: bouli77 on September 19, 2012, 10:31:23 AM
Well, I think the best way, like with all pleasures of life, is to do it in moderation.

I can understand and to an extent admire people who live vegan/vegetarian for ethical reasons, industrialized meat production is a shame for mankind and our high meat consume is wasteful.

However, a complete abdiction of animal food for health reasons is hysteria. Sure, eating less meat is healthier, but most of us get cancer or cardio-vascular diseases anway since there are enough other factors around. So I agree, instead of living approximately a few years longer one should enjoy some good meat now and then. Bad Genes can ruin your life anyway and greatly influence the likehood of diseases no matter how you live.
It's not always the animal food itself, but how it is cooked. If it's not always the fatty hamburger or chicken wing from the food chains meat can contribute to a good and relatively healthy meal.

preach (btw congrats dortmund lol)
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Q U A K E on September 19, 2012, 05:09:08 PM
see its almost pointless to argue with yall because yall believe the hype....most of yall havent even figured out how vast the web of lies has been spun by the illuminati in all areas of our lives....so yall talk like parrots, talking about meat definiciency, vitamins, etc...

like i said....acccording to mainstream nutrition, protein only needs to be like 10 (maybe 20) percent of ur diet (more than 10 percent for althletic ppl). Secondly...too muich protein, especially acidic meat protein, causes cancer. now with 1 in 2 and 1 in 3 men and women getting cancer in their lives...it goesnt take a genius to figure out if meat is healthy or not.

also...meat doesnt have anything special that cow's milk doesnt have...blood is the source of all nutrition to the body, and milk is essentially creamified blood....

there is albolutely NO vitamin mineral or fat/protein that is present in meat thats not available in vegetarian foods...only thing is u gotta learn a little bit to figure out what a varied balanced diet means... ::)
if ur spirituallty conscious or just not plain retarded, ull realize that food has a mental/spiritual energy associated with it....there have even been experiements showing ho wmeditating with or talking to plants while they grow affects the quality of food produced...so if u eat like a carnivore, ull behave more like a carnivore and less like a good human being. i think this is pretty obvious, just look at th e nature of a cat or a wolf vresus an elephant or a giraffee...id rather be friends with a mellow elephant than a cold blooded lion or even a cat. im sure u know about the amount of suffering factory farmed animals go thru...to think that doesnt affect ur consciousness at all is jus ignorant imo.

we need less land to survive on vegetarian food than animal foods....that assumes a farming based society with limited land space....but also less water is needed, therefore saving resources making things more efficient.

AS TO THE IDIOTS CLOWNING INDIANS, let me inform you that indians aren't starving because they lack food. its because the politicians and shitstem that runs the country has deliberately continued the british policy of starving the people for pouplation reduction twisted agenda and also to control the people and make sure they dont flourish and become independent and let their culture become strong (as opposed to middle class people who are culturally and mentally british ...ie. house niggaz get to eat but field niggaz need to starve). AND ALSO...I am sure u are ignorant to the fact that cows produce more food (and labor and fuel and medicine and many resources in fact, its very amazing) WHILE THEY ARE ALIVE as opposed to when they are dead. one cow can only feed like a handful of people in her life whereas if that cow is alive then it feeds milk like hundred times and also gives help tilling the agricultural lands (india is agricultural nation FYI) gives fertilizer for the fields, gives medicines (cow urine is medicinal), gives fuel (cow shit can be burned like wood and is used on stoves to cook food for poor people) in fact cow shit is not only fuel it even has antimicrobial uses and is used to clean houses...of course that will be hard for westerners to grasp as they are so brainwashed by science and culture. bullshit is not worthless in deed 8) quite valuable....but if americans knew that they wouldn't let the Buffalo go extinct would they??  :o
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Q U A K E on September 19, 2012, 05:12:00 PM
go check out videwos of BABA RAMDEV the famous Indian Yoga guru and revolutionary. This dude not only doesnt eat meat....he lives on two meals a day consisting of a bowl of vegetables and milk/yogurt....A MOTHERFUCKING BOWL Of veggies and perhaps lentils and a cup of milk or yogurt....works 18 hours a day travelling thruout india and doing exercise for like 1/4 of the day at least....he works 18 hours a day sleeping like 4 hours....doesnt seem like a skinny anorexic loser to me ::)
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on September 19, 2012, 05:16:57 PM
just ate a hamburger for dinner so im doing my part to help America 8)
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Q U A K E on September 19, 2012, 05:29:34 PM
IM NOT SAYING UR INHUMAN IF U EAT MEAT. HERRE LEMME BRIEFLY EXPLAIN THE SPIRITUAL SCIENCE OF WHOSE HUMAN AND WHOSE SOMETHING ELSE:

Baba Ramdev says theres 4 cateogiries of humans here:
1. beastly humans....selfish, no concern for otherse, will gladly step on otherse to get ahead
2. normal humans...have some consciouines theough may not always follow it...these types eat meat but try to be somewhat ethical about it, they would rather eat a cow grown in a safe and happy environment instead of factory farm if they could...
3. moral humans...who are elevated to a higher moral level than most humans, follow their principles strictly, have concern for otheres, are slefless, etc.
4. Super Humans...very rare, someone like Buddha or Christ, maybe 20 of these are born every century...
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Q U A K E on September 19, 2012, 05:33:01 PM
So in summary ,my views is this...if ur huamn u will eat ur meat to fill ur belly but not just simply for taste and gluttony...u will try to respect the animal who gave his life for ur nourishment. Im not advocating avoiding meat althogether for most people...only for people who want to reach spiritual heights in their life and live with a pupose and create positivity in the world through their each action. Even spiritually conscious people, who i advise to give u pmeat should definitely eat some meat when they become weak or emaciated as it is a great medicinal food choice to build up strength and muscle/fat and give power to a weak exhausted person...

now stop twisting what i say or try to understand what ive been saying fool.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on September 19, 2012, 05:35:13 PM
So in summary ,my views is this...if ur huamn u will eat ur meat to fill ur belly but not just simply for taste and gluttony...u will try to respect the animal who gave his life for ur nourishment. Im not advocating avoiding meat althogether for most people...only for people who want to reach spiritual heights in their life and live with a pupose and create positivity in the world through their each action. Even spiritually conscious people, who i advise to give u pmeat should definitely eat some meat when they become weak or emaciated as it is a great medicinal food choice to build up strength and muscle/fat and give power to a weak exhausted person...

now stop twisting what i say or try to understand what ive been saying fool.

do sharks respect the tinier fish they eat? no!  lol


with that said I want to thank the animal that provided me my Rib-eye steak dinner tomorrow night sitting in my fridge  8)
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Sikotic™ on September 19, 2012, 05:55:24 PM
I have no idea what he is saying because I'm not gonna read all that, but what I am gonna do is I'm about to BBQ some carne asada and chicken drumsticks.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: J. B A N A N A S on September 19, 2012, 06:47:38 PM
So in summary ,my views is this...if ur huamn u will eat ur meat to fill ur belly but not just simply for taste and gluttony...u will try to respect the animal who gave his life for ur nourishment. Im not advocating avoiding meat althogether for most people...only for people who want to reach spiritual heights in their life and live with a pupose and create positivity in the world through their each action. Even spiritually conscious people, who i advise to give u pmeat should definitely eat some meat when they become weak or emaciated as it is a great medicinal food choice to build up strength and muscle/fat and give power to a weak exhausted person...

now stop twisting what i say or try to understand what ive been saying fool.

I hate pretty much every one of your deluded hippie posts.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Fraxxx on September 20, 2012, 09:00:24 AM
Well, I think the best way, like with all pleasures of life, is to do it in moderation.

I can understand and to an extent admire people who live vegan/vegetarian for ethical reasons, industrialized meat production is a shame for mankind and our high meat consume is wasteful.

However, a complete abdiction of animal food for health reasons is hysteria. Sure, eating less meat is healthier, but most of us get cancer or cardio-vascular diseases anway since there are enough other factors around. So I agree, instead of living approximately a few years longer one should enjoy some good meat now and then. Bad Genes can ruin your life anyway and greatly influence the likehood of diseases no matter how you live.
It's not always the animal food itself, but how it is cooked. If it's not always the fatty hamburger or chicken wing from the food chains meat can contribute to a good and relatively healthy meal.

preach (btw congrats dortmund lol)

 8)
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: .:TimeLock:. on September 21, 2012, 02:51:03 PM
committing to being vegan is all fine and dandy but the real deal is eating organic and staying away for GMO foods. as long as u do that and keep a nice variety of fruits and veggies in your diet u should be able to enjoy meat along with it.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Fraxxx on September 25, 2012, 12:05:46 PM
committing to being vegan is all fine and dandy but the real deal is eating organic and staying away for GMO foods. as long as u do that and keep a nice variety of fruits and veggies in your diet u should be able to enjoy meat along with it.

Unfortunately too many people believe that healthy is the opposite of tasty.

And if people want another good reason for staying away from GMO foods, just watch a Monsanto documentary. Not even from a health perspective, those are the people that are trying to enslave humanity, nothing less.
Title: Re: Any vegans on this site?
Post by: Iron_Man on October 13, 2012, 04:10:46 PM
do we really need meat?
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Post by: Fraxxx on October 16, 2012, 10:41:47 AM
do we really need meat?

I mean, if people are so eager for eating a little meat now and then, so be it. It's more about the system as a whole. Monocultural farming deprives the soils - the very fundament of our lifes - of all nutrients and minerals.

Then we use chemical fertilizers which poison our groundwater. It's a vicious cycle with no end to it -  just to feed the majority of the corn and wheat to animals that mostly endure nothing short of suffering their whole life.

And while their feces poison our soils and water even more and their ridiculous amounts of FARTS strain the atmosphere more than all cars and planes together, WE seriously pay for the junk those animals are processed into, pumped full of antibiotics and growth hormones.

We don't even care that the workers in these industries do one of the riskiest jobs possible, not to speak of the toll all the cruelty they witness takes on their mental health, only cuz we
condone or ignore the circumstances of production. And all that just to make some wealthy, immoral bastards who don't give a shit about any of us richer and richer.

I know, many feel that it's an attack on their personal freedom if they are told to cut their meat consumption. But it's no question of personal freedom. It's about seeing the big picture and making responsible decisions for our own sake instead of acting like a fucking spoiled asshole toddler. No offense. ;)