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Title: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: MOBNigga06 on October 27, 2012, 09:37:27 PM
Just bumped Kendrick's album....

This is a good album from a good rapper, but this is NOT a West Coast album....

Kendrick Lamar is a monotone, cerebral, high-content, intellectual rapper..EAST COAST shit. This nigga should be rappin with motherfuckin Dead Prez or Nas one of them niggas.

West Coast rap is that ignorant, G-funk shit, gangsta shit: it's energetic, it's fun, it's about smoking weed, fuckin bitches, getting high, riding round, feelin good, etc. That ain't Kendrick's album.

Nigga sound more like he's from Brooklyn than Compton.


Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: J. B A N A N A S on October 27, 2012, 09:40:55 PM
Where on the west coast, or east coast are you from?
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: West Coast Veteran on October 27, 2012, 11:26:09 PM
I heard the same thing in 2005 when Game dropped The Documentary.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Will_B on October 28, 2012, 12:39:30 AM
I heard the same thing in 2005 when Game dropped The Documentary.

I doubt anyone called Game cerebral or an interlectual rapper tho
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: UCC on October 28, 2012, 03:13:57 AM
Kendrick Lamar is a monotone, cerebral, high-content, intellectual rapper..EAST COAST shit. This nigga should be rappin with motherfuckin Dead Prez or Nas one of them niggas.

Mmm, could just as easily say he's more like a Southern rapper...
because of the slurred drawl, the half-singing stuff like Andre3K,
the fast rapping like Luda, Mystikal (also usually mid-western guys like Twista, Bone Thugs, Tech N9ne, Eminem, etc. do faster styles),
the slower beats, beats with drum machines/keyboards in them, lots of catchy choruses...

I'm not saying he IS more like a Southern rapper, I'm just saying you could argue
for it just as easily, I don't think he fits in one obvious box...

To me, typical East coast would have to have way more multi-syllable rhymes like Kool G Rap, Big Daddy Kane, etc.
and have a way harder vocal style as well, like attacking the track, like Wu-Tang... Kendrick is way more chilled...

Also typical East coast guy would use a lot more sampled beats with hard sampled snares, boom-bap, Primo style stuff...
just a more "rugged" un-polished, raw sound overall is what's "normal" for East coast...
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: HighEyeCue on October 28, 2012, 03:26:01 AM
people said the same thing when Crooked I came out...I think Kendrick does a good job of mixing both styles
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: DblPen on October 28, 2012, 04:42:26 AM
West Coast rap is that ignorant, G-funk shit, gangsta shit: it's energetic, it's fun, it's about smoking weed, fuckin bitches, getting high, riding round, feelin good, etc. That ain't Kendrick's album.

acutally all of it was a big part of good kid maad city
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: bouli77 on October 28, 2012, 06:08:13 AM
lol another close minded vision on what every artist from the west should sound. shit is sad.

it still amazes me that people still think in 2012 that music from a certain area should sound like this or that.

the content is a westcoast as it gets, just cause it's not gangsta doesn't mean it ain't westcoast. kendrick speaks about what he goes through, he ain't gonna try to conform to g-funk and gangsta lyrics because it's what made the west famous in the early 90's, jesus.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Black Excellence on October 28, 2012, 07:44:08 AM
Kendrick Lamar is a monotone, cerebral, high-content, intellectual rapper..EAST COAST shit. This nigga should be rappin with motherfuckin Dead Prez or Nas one of them niggas.

Mmm, could just as easily say he's more like a Southern rapper...
because of the slurred drawl, the half-singing stuff like Andre3K,
the fast rapping like Luda, Mystikal (also usually mid-western guys like Twista, Bone Thugs, Tech N9ne, Eminem, etc. do faster styles),
the slower beats, beats with drum machines/keyboards in them, lots of catchy choruses...

I'm not saying he IS more like a Southern rapper, I'm just saying you could argue
for it just as easily, I don't think he fits in one obvious box...

To me, typical East coast would have to have way more multi-syllable rhymes like Kool G Rap, Big Daddy Kane, etc.
and have a way harder vocal style as well, like attacking the track, like Wu-Tang... Kendrick is way more chilled...

Also typical East coast guy would use a lot more sampled beats with hard sampled snares, boom-bap, Primo style stuff...
just a more "rugged" un-polished, raw sound overall is what's "normal" for East coast...
this.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Will_B on October 28, 2012, 07:59:29 AM
lol another close minded vision on what every artist from the west should sound. shit is sad.

it still amazes me that people still think in 2012 that music from a certain area should sound like this or that.

the content is a westcoast as it gets, just cause it's not gangsta doesn't mean it ain't westcoast. kendrick speaks about what he goes through, he ain't gonna try to conform to g-funk and gangsta lyrics because it's what made the west famous in the early 90's, jesus.

West Coast rappers and their fan base seem just as closed minded

No wonder the scene is on its knees. Kendrick at the very least is breathing new life into the tired genre
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Gamestarr on October 28, 2012, 08:02:16 AM
Today there is no such thing. Everybody mixing each style together.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Javii on October 28, 2012, 08:03:32 AM
He doesn't rap the typical west coast content, but he's definitely rapping what a lot of west coast inner city kids have gone through as teenagers.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Black Excellence on October 28, 2012, 08:04:18 AM
Today there is no such thing. Everybody mixing each style together.
i think that's part of the problem.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: aerroc on October 28, 2012, 11:44:47 AM
lol another close minded vision on what every artist from the west should sound. shit is sad.

it still amazes me that people still think in 2012 that music from a certain area should sound like this or that.

the content is a westcoast as it gets, just cause it's not gangsta doesn't mean it ain't westcoast. kendrick speaks about what he goes through, he ain't gonna try to conform to g-funk and gangsta lyrics because it's what made the west famous in the early 90's, jesus.

lol true i guess if ur not talking bout gang banging ur not a west coast rapper lol stupid fucking people
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: DJ Warrior on October 28, 2012, 11:46:37 AM
k dot aint from the east coast this thread is bananas
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Maully aka [Fitted Da Boss] on October 28, 2012, 01:47:31 PM
k dot is so west coast bra...jus listen 2 the album tho..."where u from where ya grandma stay" str8 la shit
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: MOBNigga06 on October 28, 2012, 05:25:17 PM
West Coast Rappers:

ROSCOE
KURUPT
PROBLEM
TERRACE MARTIN
DJ QUIK
E-40
SUGA FREE
WC
ICE CUBE

These people are all West Coast because they are all Niggas with Attitude. Game spitters.

Kendrick Lamar = nigga without attitude. Gameless.

I think it'd be better for the West if PROBLEM was getting shine the way Kendrick is....Problem makes real true west coast rap.

Contrast Kendrick and Problem and you see what I meant when I started this thread.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: MOBNigga06 on October 28, 2012, 05:28:11 PM
West Coast Rappers:

ROSCOE
KURUPT
PROBLEM
TERRACE MARTIN
DJ QUIK
E-40
SUGA FREE
WC
ICE CUBE

These people are all West Coast because they are all Niggas with Attitude. Game spitters.

Kendrick Lamar = nigga without attitude. Gameless.

I think it'd be better for the West if PROBLEM was getting shine the way Kendrick is....Problem makes real true west coast rap.

Contrast Kendrick and Problem and you see what I meant when I started this thread.

"Getting paid, that's why my bucks grown
Tryin to find me a bitch for me to fuck on
I said fuck on, not trying to date
I need a bitch that's mesmerized by my 28s"

That's Problem spitting that West Coast ignorant ass nigga shit. I fuck with that. Quk spits it, Kurupt spits it, Scoe spits it, not Kendrick.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Si-Chiggedy on October 28, 2012, 05:43:40 PM
West Coast Rappers:

ROSCOE
KURUPT
PROBLEM
TERRACE MARTIN
DJ QUIK
E-40
SUGA FREE
WC
ICE CUBE

These people are all West Coast because they are all Niggas with Attitude. Game spitters.

Kendrick Lamar = nigga without attitude. Gameless.

I think it'd be better for the West if PROBLEM was getting shine the way Kendrick is....Problem makes real true west coast rap.

Contrast Kendrick and Problem and you see what I meant when I started this thread.

"Getting paid, that's why my bucks grown
Tryin to find me a bitch for me to fuck on
I said fuck on, not trying to date
I need a bitch that's mesmerized by my 28s"

That's Problem spitting that West Coast ignorant ass nigga shit. I fuck with that. Quk spits it, Kurupt spits it, Scoe spits it, not Kendrick.

(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/5704214_460s_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: LAC/EASTSIDE on October 28, 2012, 05:47:53 PM
This is a troll topic. This lame thinks only the East has lyricist. What a fool.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on October 28, 2012, 07:14:51 PM
Gotta love dubcc
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Quadruple OG on October 28, 2012, 07:40:48 PM
Gotta love dubcc

Most of the people hating on this album would change their mind in a heartbeat if Snoop Dogg called it dope.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: dubsmith_nz on October 28, 2012, 08:34:14 PM
Gotta love dubcc

For real, Kendrick gets more love in other forums than he does here. The West is on the rise, TDE, Tyga, Odd Future all popping lately, even if ain't the music you like.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: KC-HOODSTA on October 28, 2012, 08:44:14 PM
hey every era has their people who hated that time period. shit in 95 jeru the damaja was speakin on hip hop being dead. and niggaz was hating on eazy-e real bad back in the day. i mean ive heard people talk bad about the golden age of hip hop in the late 80's. so im not suprised to find people who dislike certain rappers or eras. i'll be the first to say i'd be glad that kendrick lamar would be the face of this new generation. he has the style he has the POWER(cuz he has a crew) and he has a certain kind of deal with a huge recordlabel. oh and he keeps makin hit singles. so that helps.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: aerroc on October 28, 2012, 10:07:09 PM
stupid people here the west coast finally got an artist who going to be big and every 1 is hating the 90s was good but that era is
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: aerroc on October 28, 2012, 10:11:27 PM
stupid people here the west coast finally got an artist who going to be big and every 1 is hating the 90s was good but that era is fucking over
you dont see east coast crying or the south this forum became relevant for alil bit with the kendrick
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: aerroc on October 28, 2012, 10:12:10 PM
stupid people here the west coast finally got an artist who going to be big and every 1 is hating the 90s was good but that era is fucking over
you dont see east coast crying or the south this forum became relevant for alil bit with the kendrick
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Remedy360 on October 28, 2012, 10:13:42 PM
West Coast Rappers:

ROSCOE
KURUPT
PROBLEM
TERRACE MARTIN
DJ QUIK
E-40
SUGA FREE
WC
ICE CUBE

These people are all West Coast because they are all Niggas with Attitude. Game spitters.

Kendrick Lamar = nigga without attitude. Gameless.

I think it'd be better for the West if PROBLEM was getting shine the way Kendrick is....Problem makes real true west coast rap.

Contrast Kendrick and Problem and you see what I meant when I started this thread.

lol says the guy named "mob nigga". We all like different shit, and that's fine, but hating on dude just cause he's bringing something different to the table is stupid.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: DblPen on October 28, 2012, 10:48:32 PM
West Coast Rappers:

ROSCOE
KURUPT
PROBLEM
TERRACE MARTIN
DJ QUIK
E-40
SUGA FREE
WC
ICE CUBE

These people are all West Coast because they are all Niggas with Attitude. Game spitters.

Kendrick Lamar = nigga without attitude. Gameless.

I think it'd be better for the West if PROBLEM was getting shine the way Kendrick is....Problem makes real true west coast rap.

Contrast Kendrick and Problem and you see what I meant when I started this thread.

"Getting paid, that's why my bucks grown
Tryin to find me a bitch for me to fuck on
I said fuck on, not trying to date
I need a bitch that's mesmerized by my 28s"

That's Problem spitting that West Coast ignorant ass nigga shit. I fuck with that. Quk spits it, Kurupt spits it, Scoe spits it, not Kendrick.

thats some wack bars
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: KrazySumwhat on October 28, 2012, 10:56:20 PM
 funny thing is east coast hip hop heads prolly think kendrick sucks?
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: D Breezy on October 28, 2012, 10:57:33 PM
stupid thread, not EVERYONE on the west coast bangs. how many times can u really sit n listen to gangsta shit without wanting to change the topic up once in a while. kendrick rappin bout real life shit and hes on another level with it, at the same time he spits razor sharp and just clowns lyrically. good artist
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: aerroc on October 28, 2012, 11:09:28 PM
and u wonder why those gangsta rappers fell off how many times can u talk about shooting people i enjoyed that era but i moved on 90% of the people here should do the same 
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: dubsmith_nz on October 28, 2012, 11:23:51 PM
I'm just wondering, do people who are hating on Kendrick for having the wrong beats and subject matter, hate on the OG west coast back packer rap? Hiero, Pharcyde, Freestyle Fellowship don't follow that blueprint but that doesn't make them any less West Coast.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: 2euce 7even on October 29, 2012, 02:08:14 AM
welcome to 2012
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Quadruple OG on October 29, 2012, 05:57:32 AM
funny thing is east coast hip hop heads prolly think kendrick sucks?

Nah, most people outside this board and in the real world recognize Kendrick for what he is: an extremely talented artist who dropped the Album of the Year and one of the best new talents to come out of the west in a long time.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: MOBNigga06 on October 29, 2012, 06:23:08 AM
Some of y'all must be half illiterate or something.

I said in the topic thread that Kendrick's album is a "good album by a good rapper."

So I'm not "hating" on Kendrick, as many of you keep saying.

I just diagnosed his style: it ain't West Coast. It's East Coast.

Doesn't mean he's bad. Just means he don't got the game and the personality and the style of a West Coast rapper.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: 2euce 7even on October 29, 2012, 07:11:41 AM
u can say it bout any new rapper outta west by far.

its 2012 u cant tell by beat if its an east or west or south song. all beats became the same, only thing u can tell what coast the artist is from is from his conent of the lyyrics.

Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: papa-smurf on October 29, 2012, 07:59:04 AM
well i guess biggie smalls  a westcoast rapper then because his shit was about weed,party & fucking bitchies.its nothing intellectual about biggie rymes..But its nothing eastcoast about kendrick.u just a idiot troll that dont wanne give westcoast credit 4 having lyrical rappers.eastcoast rap is garbage.the only eastcoast artist thats dope is naS & AZ
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: LYRIDER on October 29, 2012, 08:15:40 AM
.u just a idiot troll
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: CHUCK KNOXXX on October 29, 2012, 08:42:06 AM
I'm just wondering, do people who are hating on Kendrick for having the wrong beats and subject matter, hate on the OG west coast back packer rap? Hiero, Pharcyde, Freestyle Fellowship don't follow that blueprint but that doesn't make them any less West Coast.
i been thinking this since i first heard that whole 'doesnt sound west coast' argument...i would suggest someone start a thread explaining how there's been non 'gfunk gangsta' rappers out here since even back when that style of music was popular, if their weren't already too many kdot threads
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: MOBNigga06 on October 29, 2012, 10:44:35 AM
I'm just wondering, do people who are hating on Kendrick for having the wrong beats and subject matter, hate on the OG west coast back packer rap? Hiero, Pharcyde, Freestyle Fellowship don't follow that blueprint but that doesn't make them any less West Coast.

To be honest, I don't really fuck with that.

DJ Quik and Kurupt is the shit I consider quintessentially West Coast. Their styles are what I think defines West Coast hip hop.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: UCC on October 29, 2012, 11:08:00 AM
Hiero, Pharcyde, Freestyle Fellowship don't follow that blueprint but that doesn't make them any less West Coast.

Word, this is why when people say that Kendrick is really new and lyrical, it's odd,
because the guys you named and also groups like Blackalicious, Latyrx, Zion I, Dilated Peoples, Jurassic 5,
they are all at least as skilled if not more so than Kendrick, and they actually DO push stuff in brand new directions...

...but they don't get the spotlight, because in general they haven't tried to make really commercial stuff like Kendrick has...

Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: shoo on October 29, 2012, 11:20:01 AM
Just bumped Kendrick's album....

This is a good album from a good rapper, but this is NOT a West Coast album....

Kendrick Lamar is a monotone, cerebral, high-content, intellectual rapper..EAST COAST shit. This nigga should be rappin with motherfuckin Dead Prez or Nas one of them niggas.

West Coast rap is that ignorant, G-funk shit, gangsta shit: it's energetic, it's fun, it's about smoking weed, fuckin bitches, getting high, riding round, feelin good, etc. That ain't Kendrick's album.

Nigga sound more like he's from Brooklyn than Compton.




what about Hieroglyphics to name the first non ignorant west coast rap band that came to my mind?
there are plenty of intelectual rappers from the west. Ignorants are those who never heard about them.
What about Dilated Peoples? Pharcyde?

Damn... stop acting like the west coast is all about gangsta rap...
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Sccit on October 29, 2012, 12:00:54 PM
I heard the same thing in 2005 when Game dropped The Documentary.

"The Documentary" is a west coast album. theres no denying the prevalence of a western sound, front to back.


Kendrick sounds more like a dirty south/midwest rapper, to me. sometimes east coast, as well. as far as him not having a west coast sound, i wrote a piece on that, yad.....


http://blog.weserious.com/?p=141


Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Sccit on October 29, 2012, 12:01:49 PM
people said the same thing when Crooked I came out...I think Kendrick does a good job of mixing both styles

crooked i's flow is the definition of west coast
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 29, 2012, 12:05:09 PM
It makes sense to think that. Naturally all the best lyricists come out of the East Coast. The staple of the West is just great production flowed over by sub-par, repetitive lyrics.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Sccit on October 29, 2012, 12:07:08 PM
lol another close minded vision on what every artist from the west should sound. shit is sad.

it still amazes me that people still think in 2012 that music from a certain area should sound like this or that.

the content is a westcoast as it gets, just cause it's not gangsta doesn't mean it ain't westcoast. kendrick speaks about what he goes through, he ain't gonna try to conform to g-funk and gangsta lyrics because it's what made the west famous in the early 90's, jesus.


as far as what the OP described as "west coast sound", i agree, he went over the top with the stereotypes......at the same time, kendrick's album IS lacking a regional sound. not because it lacks "G-Funk gangsta shit", but moreso because the sound itself, outside of the content, does not capture the feeling of the west coast. i also didnt hear much east coast influence in it, either, although, kendrick does have some east coastish type cuts in his catalogue ala "hiiipower"
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Sccit on October 29, 2012, 12:08:36 PM
It makes sense to think that. Naturally all the best lyricists come out of the East Coast. The staple of the West is just great production flowed over by sub-par, repetitive lyrics.


well, thats bullshit...obviously, the west is known for being more musical, and the east more lyrical. but thats not to say that they dont have a combination of both. the east coast has great producers and the west coast has great lyricists. it goes both ways
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: HighEyeCue on October 29, 2012, 12:31:22 PM
funny thing is east coast hip hop heads prolly think kendrick sucks?

I doubt he is played alot on hiphop radio, mostly Nicki Minaj type music is but the real heads know whats up
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Sccit on October 29, 2012, 02:16:53 PM
funny thing is east coast hip hop heads prolly think kendrick sucks?

I doubt he is played alot on hiphop radio, mostly Nicki Minaj type music is but the real heads know whats up


"swimming pools" actually gettin a lotta spins right now
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: dubsmith_nz on October 29, 2012, 06:26:08 PM
lol another close minded vision on what every artist from the west should sound. shit is sad.

it still amazes me that people still think in 2012 that music from a certain area should sound like this or that.

the content is a westcoast as it gets, just cause it's not gangsta doesn't mean it ain't westcoast. kendrick speaks about what he goes through, he ain't gonna try to conform to g-funk and gangsta lyrics because it's what made the west famous in the early 90's, jesus.


as far as what the OP described as "west coast sound", i agree, he went over the top with the stereotypes......at the same time, kendrick's album IS lacking a regional sound. not because it lacks "G-Funk gangsta shit", but moreso because the sound itself, outside of the content, does not capture the feeling of the west coast. i also didnt hear much east coast influence in it, either, although, kendrick does have some east coastish type cuts in his catalogue ala "hiiipower"

So do Pharcyde, Hiero, Dilated, Jurassic and Freestyle Fellowship capture the sound of your West Coast? People need to stop stereotyping the West to one sound, its been diverse forthe longest time
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: aerroc on October 29, 2012, 07:43:26 PM
Some of y'all must be half illiterate or something.

I said in the topic thread that Kendrick's album is a "good album by a good rapper."

So I'm not "hating" on Kendrick, as many of you keep saying.

I just diagnosed his style: it ain't West Coast. It's East Coast.

Doesn't mean he's bad. Just means he don't got the game and the personality and the style of a West Coast rapper.

please define what is a west coast artist 
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on October 29, 2012, 07:57:14 PM
Some of y'all must be half illiterate or something.

I said in the topic thread that Kendrick's album is a "good album by a good rapper."

So I'm not "hating" on Kendrick, as many of you keep saying.

I just diagnosed his style: it ain't West Coast. It's East Coast.

Doesn't mean he's bad. Just means he don't got the game and the personality and the style of a West Coast rapper.

please define what is a west coast artist 


never heard of MobNigga06, nor does it matter 2 what i have to say so just read.





A "westcoast artist" is a fallacy perpechuated by few on the internet, the die-hard stuck in tha past fans and the media that get paid to support them (regardless of the person who's actually posting the Article).


"Good Kid, m.A.A.d City" is as "West Coast" as it gets, same with "Follow Me Home".  Why, aside from the beats it's mainly just the content.  "Swimming Pools (Drank)" doesn't sound "Atlanta".... what is "Atlanta"?  And before u answer that question in your head, where does "Atlanta" get it's sound from? 


There's nothing about Kendrick that says "East Coast" aka "New York", absolutely nothing.  I question anybody who will say that's judgement, and not just judgement but their musical Knowledge and Experience period. 


I mean, becuz if Kendrick is "east coast" then so is Big K.R.I.T. and I think we all know that's not tha case
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Sccit on October 29, 2012, 08:35:19 PM
lol another close minded vision on what every artist from the west should sound. shit is sad.

it still amazes me that people still think in 2012 that music from a certain area should sound like this or that.

the content is a westcoast as it gets, just cause it's not gangsta doesn't mean it ain't westcoast. kendrick speaks about what he goes through, he ain't gonna try to conform to g-funk and gangsta lyrics because it's what made the west famous in the early 90's, jesus.


as far as what the OP described as "west coast sound", i agree, he went over the top with the stereotypes......at the same time, kendrick's album IS lacking a regional sound. not because it lacks "G-Funk gangsta shit", but moreso because the sound itself, outside of the content, does not capture the feeling of the west coast. i also didnt hear much east coast influence in it, either, although, kendrick does have some east coastish type cuts in his catalogue ala "hiiipower"

So do Pharcyde, Hiero, Dilated, Jurassic and Freestyle Fellowship capture the sound of your West Coast? People need to stop stereotyping the West to one sound, its been diverse forthe longest time


everyone u named sounds like indie west coast rap. east coast indie rap has a completely different sound.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Sccit on October 29, 2012, 08:37:14 PM
Some of y'all must be half illiterate or something.

I said in the topic thread that Kendrick's album is a "good album by a good rapper."

So I'm not "hating" on Kendrick, as many of you keep saying.

I just diagnosed his style: it ain't West Coast. It's East Coast.

Doesn't mean he's bad. Just means he don't got the game and the personality and the style of a West Coast rapper.

please define what is a west coast artist 


never heard of MobNigga06, nor does it matter 2 what i have to say so just read.





A "westcoast artist" is a fallacy perpechuated by few on the internet, the die-hard stuck in tha past fans and the media that get paid to support them (regardless of the person who's actually posting the Article).


"Good Kid, m.A.A.d City" is as "West Coast" as it gets, same with "Follow Me Home".  Why, aside from the beats it's mainly just the content.  "Swimming Pools (Drank)" doesn't sound "Atlanta".... what is "Atlanta"?  And before u answer that question in your head, where does "Atlanta" get it's sound from? 


There's nothing about Kendrick that says "East Coast" aka "New York", absolutely nothing.  I question anybody who will say that's judgement, and not just judgement but their musical Knowledge and Experience period. 


I mean, becuz if Kendrick is "east coast" then so is Big K.R.I.T. and I think we all know that's not tha case


Big KRIT has a classic dirty south flow, i dont think any1 can mistake him for east coast.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on October 29, 2012, 08:43:32 PM
^^^some would^^^ the average Rap listener doesnt really get caught up in Labels.  Im just addressing THE person who did





and there's no such thing as a "classic dirty south" flow.  People in Alabama and Georgia would laugh you outta tha Coast for saying something like that lol
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Sccit on October 29, 2012, 08:45:12 PM
^^^some would^^^ the average Rap listener doesnt really get caught up in Labels.  Im just addressing THE person who did





and there's no such thing as a "classic dirty south" flow.  People in Alabama and Georgia would laugh you outta tha Coast for saying something like that lol


then they must be retarded
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Negaisbacc on October 29, 2012, 08:47:16 PM
Just bumped Kendrick's album....

This is a good album from a good rapper, but this is NOT a West Coast album....

Kendrick Lamar is a monotone, cerebral, high-content, intellectual rapper..EAST COAST shit. This nigga should be rappin with motherfuckin Dead Prez or Nas one of them niggas.

West Coast rap is that ignorant, G-funk shit, gangsta shit: it's energetic, it's fun, it's about smoking weed, fuckin bitches, getting high, riding round, feelin good, etc. That ain't Kendrick's album.

Nigga sound more like he's from Brooklyn than Compton.




You are fucking retarded, why bring this little shit up? God u cry baby little shit, die slow
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on October 29, 2012, 08:48:21 PM
^^^some would^^^ the average Rap listener doesnt really get caught up in Labels.  Im just addressing THE person who did

and there's no such thing as a "classic dirty south" flow.  People in Alabama and Georgia would laugh you outta tha Coast for saying something like that lol


then they must be retarded


ah yes.  becuz Nikcc leader of the Lambz believes so.  The same guy who makes Hoagies at Quizno's and raps about beating women and cosigning rappers who rape little girls just becuz they're from the West Coast thinks so.  youre so right
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Negaisbacc on October 29, 2012, 08:51:38 PM
^^^some would^^^ the average Rap listener doesnt really get caught up in Labels.  Im just addressing THE person who did

and there's no such thing as a "classic dirty south" flow.  People in Alabama and Georgia would laugh you outta tha Coast for saying something like that lol


then they must be retarded


ah yes.  becuz Nikcc leader of the Lambz believes so.  The same guy who makes Hoagies at Quizno's and raps about beating women and cosigning rappers who rape little girls just becuz they're from the West Coast thinks so.  youre so right
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: bouli77 on October 30, 2012, 08:07:52 AM
Some of y'all must be half illiterate or something.

I said in the topic thread that Kendrick's album is a "good album by a good rapper."

So I'm not "hating" on Kendrick, as many of you keep saying.

I just diagnosed his style: it ain't West Coast. It's East Coast.

Doesn't mean he's bad. Just means he don't got the game and the personality and the style of a West Coast rapper.

please define what is a west coast artist 


never heard of MobNigga06, nor does it matter 2 what i have to say so just read.





A "westcoast artist" is a fallacy perpechuated by few on the internet, the die-hard stuck in tha past fans and the media that get paid to support them (regardless of the person who's actually posting the Article).


"Good Kid, m.A.A.d City" is as "West Coast" as it gets, same with "Follow Me Home".  Why, aside from the beats it's mainly just the content.  "Swimming Pools (Drank)" doesn't sound "Atlanta".... what is "Atlanta"?  And before u answer that question in your head, where does "Atlanta" get it's sound from? 


There's nothing about Kendrick that says "East Coast" aka "New York", absolutely nothing.  I question anybody who will say that's judgement, and not just judgement but their musical Knowledge and Experience period. 


I mean, becuz if Kendrick is "east coast" then so is Big K.R.I.T. and I think we all know that's not tha case


Big KRIT has a classic dirty south flow, i dont think any1 can mistake him for east coast.

lol Big KRIT sounds like he could be Pimp C's nephew. not only that, he raps about how it's good to be southern with a heavy drawl ("we make it cool to be southern"), and he raps about gripping on woodgrain, like Trae or UGK, there's no possibility to think he's from the east unless you think some of the South is actually the East lol.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Sccit on October 30, 2012, 03:01:15 PM
Some of y'all must be half illiterate or something.

I said in the topic thread that Kendrick's album is a "good album by a good rapper."

So I'm not "hating" on Kendrick, as many of you keep saying.

I just diagnosed his style: it ain't West Coast. It's East Coast.

Doesn't mean he's bad. Just means he don't got the game and the personality and the style of a West Coast rapper.

please define what is a west coast artist 


never heard of MobNigga06, nor does it matter 2 what i have to say so just read.





A "westcoast artist" is a fallacy perpechuated by few on the internet, the die-hard stuck in tha past fans and the media that get paid to support them (regardless of the person who's actually posting the Article).


"Good Kid, m.A.A.d City" is as "West Coast" as it gets, same with "Follow Me Home".  Why, aside from the beats it's mainly just the content.  "Swimming Pools (Drank)" doesn't sound "Atlanta".... what is "Atlanta"?  And before u answer that question in your head, where does "Atlanta" get it's sound from? 


There's nothing about Kendrick that says "East Coast" aka "New York", absolutely nothing.  I question anybody who will say that's judgement, and not just judgement but their musical Knowledge and Experience period. 


I mean, becuz if Kendrick is "east coast" then so is Big K.R.I.T. and I think we all know that's not tha case


Big KRIT has a classic dirty south flow, i dont think any1 can mistake him for east coast.

lol Big KRIT sounds like he could be Pimp C's nephew. not only that, he raps about how it's good to be southern with a heavy drawl ("we make it cool to be southern"), and he raps about gripping on woodgrain, like Trae or UGK, there's no possibility to think he's from the east unless you think some of the South is actually the East lol.


money
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Blasphemy (A) on October 30, 2012, 11:38:06 PM
A Westcoast artist is someone who lived the majority of their life in the west, made his bones in the west (started recording and got discovered). Simple as that, Even if a new york Label signs them. If you're really gonna talk about Kendrick Lamar being east coast for talking political and socially conscious stuff, Then I guess N.W.A and more specifically Ice Cube are East Coast because while Public Enemy was talking about Black Power N.W.A and Cube was talking about the violence within the inner cities of America.

Just because you spit complex doesn't mean u can't come from the west.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on October 30, 2012, 11:57:23 PM
spit complex?



@Nik he was agreeing with me smh
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Sccit on October 31, 2012, 12:07:22 AM
spit complex?



@Nik he was agreeing with me smh


Actually, he just agreed with what I said. Big KRIT has a Pimp Cesque flow. Impossible to mistake for an east coast rapper.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: doggfather on October 31, 2012, 12:13:21 AM
who the f.ck cares in 2012 about east or west coast rappers?!

is he good?

YES

does it matter where he came from, or what "type" of music he made?

No
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on October 31, 2012, 12:15:34 AM
spit complex?



@Nik he was agreeing with me smh


Actually, he just agreed with what I said. Big KRIT has a Pimp Cesque flow. Impossible to mistake for an east coast rapper.


u need medicine.  the daily frequency of trying to read ppl and argue with ppl for years has taken a toll on your brain
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on October 31, 2012, 12:19:33 AM
who the f.ck cares in 2012 about east or west coast rappers?!

is he good?

YES

does it matter where he came from, or what "type" of music he made?

No



thing is tho, there's not too much about this album that's not typical west coast/california music.



see, G Funk never died, it was the copycat "Chronic 2001" sound that did. 
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Sccit on October 31, 2012, 12:53:35 AM
spit complex?



@Nik he was agreeing with me smh


Actually, he just agreed with what I said. Big KRIT has a Pimp Cesque flow. Impossible to mistake for an east coast rapper.


u need medicine. 

money, again
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on October 31, 2012, 04:36:11 AM
spit complex?



@Nik he was agreeing with me smh


Actually, he just agreed with what I said. Big KRIT has a Pimp Cesque flow. Impossible to mistake for an east coast rapper.


u need medicine. 

money, again


Obamacare covers pre-existing conditions  8)
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: MOBNigga06 on October 31, 2012, 05:57:26 AM
spit complex?



@Nik he was agreeing with me smh


Actually, he just agreed with what I said. Big KRIT has a Pimp Cesque flow. Impossible to mistake for an east coast rapper.


u need medicine.  the daily frequency of trying to read ppl and argue with ppl for years has taken a toll on your brain

You're a retard.

Your arguments are unpersuasive.

You've been refuted several times already here.

NikCC is a smart fuckin poster. Bow down, byotch.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Negaisbacc on October 31, 2012, 06:12:04 AM
spit complex?



@Nik he was agreeing with me smh


Actually, he just agreed with what I said. Big KRIT has a Pimp Cesque flow. Impossible to mistake for an east coast rapper.


u need medicine.  the daily frequency of trying to read ppl and argue with ppl for years has taken a toll on your brain

You're a retard.

Your arguments are unpersuasive.

You've been refuted several times already here.

NikCC is a smart fuckin poster. Bow down, byotch.

Shut the fuck up you fucking faggot, why do u care about this dumb shit?!! I would sell my fucking soul to murder you and ur bloodline.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on October 31, 2012, 06:17:12 AM
spit complex?



@Nik he was agreeing with me smh


Actually, he just agreed with what I said. Big KRIT has a Pimp Cesque flow. Impossible to mistake for an east coast rapper.


u need medicine.  the daily frequency of trying to read ppl and argue with ppl for years has taken a toll on your brain

You're a retard.

Your arguments are unpersuasive.

You've been refuted several times already here.

NikCC is a smart fuckin poster. Bow down, byotch.


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(http://i35.tinypic.com/330se1e.gif)


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u said all of that and u were still wrong
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on October 31, 2012, 06:19:14 AM
spit complex?



@Nik he was agreeing with me smh


Actually, he just agreed with what I said. Big KRIT has a Pimp Cesque flow. Impossible to mistake for an east coast rapper.


u need medicine.  the daily frequency of trying to read ppl and argue with ppl for years has taken a toll on your brain

You're a retard.

Your arguments are unpersuasive.

You've been refuted several times already here.

NikCC is a smart fuckin poster. Bow down, byotch.

Shut the fuck up you fucking faggot, why do u care about this dumb shit?!! I would sell my fucking soul to murder you and ur bloodline.


i have some buyers uf u got dat work
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Sccit on October 31, 2012, 12:01:55 PM
spit complex?



@Nik he was agreeing with me smh


Actually, he just agreed with what I said. Big KRIT has a Pimp Cesque flow. Impossible to mistake for an east coast rapper.


u need medicine.  the daily frequency of trying to read ppl and argue with ppl for years has taken a toll on your brain

You're a retard.

Your arguments are unpersuasive.

You've been refuted several times already here.

NikCC is a smart fuckin poster. Bow down, byotch.

Shut the fuck up you fucking faggot, why do u care about this dumb shit?!! I would sell my fucking soul to murder you and ur bloodline.



lol...blunt tyme exposed
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Quadruple OG on October 31, 2012, 01:45:32 PM
Kendrick Lamar: Born and raised in Compton. Signed to a West Coast Label (TDE) that just signed a deal with the biggest name on the West Coast (Dr. Dre). Major studio album is about growing up in Compton with features from MC Eiht, Dr. Dre, and Jay Rock. Yep, sounds like an East Coast Rapper to me.

Fucking retard.

This board has proven it will find any and all excuses to hate on Kendrick Lamar because his album isn't "West Coast" enough for them.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Negaisbacc on October 31, 2012, 02:14:40 PM
spit complex?



@Nik he was agreeing with me smh


Actually, he just agreed with what I said. Big KRIT has a Pimp Cesque flow. Impossible to mistake for an east coast rapper.


u need medicine.  the daily frequency of trying to read ppl and argue with ppl for years has taken a toll on your brain

You're a retard.

Your arguments are unpersuasive.

You've been refuted several times already here.

NikCC is a smart fuckin poster. Bow down, byotch.

Shut the fuck up you fucking faggot, why do u care about this dumb shit?!! I would sell my fucking soul to murder you and ur bloodline.



lol...blunt tyme exposed

Ha 2nd time today a faggot called me an alias. Keep trying jew
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Sccit on October 31, 2012, 03:35:17 PM
i guess blunt tyme was sccitthashit.....u still a bitch, tho
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Sccit on October 31, 2012, 03:40:34 PM
Kendrick Lamar: Born and raised in Compton. Signed to a West Coast Label (TDE) that just signed a deal with the biggest name on the West Coast (Dr. Dre). Major studio album is about growing up in Compton with features from MC Eiht, Dr. Dre, and Jay Rock. Yep, sounds like an East Coast Rapper to me.

Fucking retard.

This board has proven it will find any and all excuses to hate on Kendrick Lamar because his album isn't "West Coast" enough for them.


is it really fair to call him a retard? he's entitled to an opinion, and while i do agree that he is off by calling kendrick an "east coast rapper", kendrick still doesnt have your typical west coast sound. snoop had an overall typical west coast sound comin out, eminem had an overall typical detroit sound comin out, 50 cent had an overall typical east coast sound comin out, game had an overall typical west coast sound comin out....outside of his content, kendrick's overall sound cannot be defined regionally. he does not have your typical west coast sound. u might see it as good or bad, but everyones entitled to their opinions.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: calihoodsta00 on October 31, 2012, 04:54:23 PM
Ya'll are crazy because Kendrick is bringing something new to the coast that's much needed, he's a eastcoast rapper psh! Wtf instead of realizing how this dude is changing the perception the westcoast ya'll knock him the eastcoast, & south thinks all the west is gangsta rap Kendrick bringing skill back to the Coast that's fucked up wake the hell up ya'll #westwest#
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on October 31, 2012, 06:03:06 PM
fuck a coast in 2012 its about good music
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Negaisbacc on October 31, 2012, 07:44:13 PM
i guess blunt tyme was sccitthashit.....u still a bitch, tho

Oh jew boy, atleast I didnt brat floyd
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Quadruple OG on November 01, 2012, 06:46:52 AM
fuck a coast in 2012 its about good music

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(http://thesecularity.com/download/file.php?id=7457)
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Quadruple OG on November 01, 2012, 06:51:32 AM
Kendrick Lamar: Born and raised in Compton. Signed to a West Coast Label (TDE) that just signed a deal with the biggest name on the West Coast (Dr. Dre). Major studio album is about growing up in Compton with features from MC Eiht, Dr. Dre, and Jay Rock. Yep, sounds like an East Coast Rapper to me.

Fucking retard.

This board has proven it will find any and all excuses to hate on Kendrick Lamar because his album isn't "West Coast" enough for them.


is it really fair to call him a retard? he's entitled to an opinion, and while i do agree that he is off by calling kendrick an "east coast rapper", kendrick still doesnt have your typical west coast sound. snoop had an overall typical west coast sound comin out, eminem had an overall typical detroit sound comin out, 50 cent had an overall typical east coast sound comin out, game had an overall typical west coast sound comin out....outside of his content, kendrick's overall sound cannot be defined regionally. he does not have your typical west coast sound. u might see it as good or bad, but everyones entitled to their opinions.

I think it's absolutely fair to call him that given his original post.

Me and you have had this back and forth in different Kendrick threads, however sounds in other regions have evolved over time. The South evolved from Luke to Bling Bling to Trapping. East evolved from Shiny Suit Era to Grimy Street stuff (DMX & early Ja Rule) to whatever the fuck they're doing now. So why can't the west coast sound evolve from G-Funk to 2001 to something else?
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: bouli77 on November 01, 2012, 07:19:56 AM
the west has clearly evolved, and when I say west i mean the offsprings of the NWA legacy, which include many different subgenres as well as the alternative backpacker westcoast shit, since so many rappers feed off both influences.

Kendrick Lamar and his TDE camp all have gangsta influences and backpacker influences as well... and if you think about it even Snoop Dogg and his camp used to perform at the Good Life Café, so they had ties to backpack rap as well.

my point is that Kendrick Lamar isn't a UFO on the westcoast map. he's at the forefront of it, but there's a lot of artists I would compare him to. If you think about it, Terrace Martin is on the same tip (westcoast kinda hipster, strongly gangsta influenced, but not only), Droop-E too, Fashawn, not to mention all the Odd Future shit, Dom Kennedy etc. that's the westcoast nowadays, it ain't gangbanging music, it ain't g-funk (even if the g-funk sonorities are obviously still prevalent). I think it is what it is, we can complain all we what, I personally don't care, I ain't from the west so I don't want the west to sound like this or that, I just want good music that's it, but the bottom line is that Kendrick Lamar just sounds like so many westcoast rappers right now, it's just that the stereotype we have about traditional westcoast music in 2012 is somehow flawed.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Blasphemy (A) on November 01, 2012, 11:00:29 AM
the west has clearly evolved, and when I say west i mean the offsprings of the NWA legacy, which include many different subgenres as well as the alternative backpacker westcoast shit, since so many rappers feed off both influences.

Kendrick Lamar and his TDE camp all have gangsta influences and backpacker influences as well... and if you think about it even Snoop Dogg and his camp used to perform at the Good Life Café, so they had ties to backpack rap as well.

my point is that Kendrick Lamar isn't a UFO on the westcoast map. he's at the forefront of it, but there's a lot of artists I would compare him to. If you think about it, Terrace Martin is on the same tip (westcoast kinda hipster, strongly gangsta influenced, but not only), Droop-E too, Fashawn, not to mention all the Odd Future shit, Dom Kennedy etc. that's the westcoast nowadays, it ain't gangbanging music, it ain't g-funk (even if the g-funk sonorities are obviously still prevalent). I think it is what it is, we can complain all we what, I personally don't care, I ain't from the west so I don't want the west to sound like this or that, I just want good music that's it, but the bottom line is that Kendrick Lamar just sounds like so many westcoast rappers right now, it's just that the stereotype we have about traditional westcoast music in 2012 is somehow flawed.

I'm from the west and what I can tell G-Funk still popular, The newer acts still get shown love, but I'm likely to hear songs from The Chronic or Alll Eyez from random cars then the new acts.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Sccit on November 01, 2012, 02:09:36 PM
why can't the west coast sound evolve from G-Funk to 2001 to something else?

im all for evolution, but kendrick's album isn't an evolution of west coast sound...it's an integration of all regional sounds without its own MUSICAL signature. if he was coming with a new sound we never heard before, i'd be all for it. but the sound is very reminiscent of young money, outkast, kanye west, etc. all mixed, i wouldnt call it an "evolution"....content-wise, its an evolution from gangsta rap to hipster rap. it's not bad, but i wouldnt really want this to become the staple sound of the west coast.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: D Breezy on November 04, 2012, 12:43:50 AM
why can't the west coast sound evolve from G-Funk to 2001 to something else?

im all for evolution, but kendrick's album isn't an evolution of west coast sound...it's an integration of all regional sounds without its own MUSICAL signature. if he was coming with a new sound we never heard before, i'd be all for it. but the sound is very reminiscent of young money, outkast, kanye west, etc. all mixed, i wouldnt call it an "evolution"....content-wise, its an evolution from gangsta rap to hipster rap. it's not bad, but i wouldnt really want this to become the staple sound of the west coast.

in the sense that its a mainstream rapper actually rappin bout shit thats meaningful and sellin records, its an evolution from eveything else on the radio
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: bouli77 on November 04, 2012, 02:46:17 AM
the west has clearly evolved, and when I say west i mean the offsprings of the NWA legacy, which include many different subgenres as well as the alternative backpacker westcoast shit, since so many rappers feed off both influences.

Kendrick Lamar and his TDE camp all have gangsta influences and backpacker influences as well... and if you think about it even Snoop Dogg and his camp used to perform at the Good Life Café, so they had ties to backpack rap as well.

my point is that Kendrick Lamar isn't a UFO on the westcoast map. he's at the forefront of it, but there's a lot of artists I would compare him to. If you think about it, Terrace Martin is on the same tip (westcoast kinda hipster, strongly gangsta influenced, but not only), Droop-E too, Fashawn, not to mention all the Odd Future shit, Dom Kennedy etc. that's the westcoast nowadays, it ain't gangbanging music, it ain't g-funk (even if the g-funk sonorities are obviously still prevalent). I think it is what it is, we can complain all we what, I personally don't care, I ain't from the west so I don't want the west to sound like this or that, I just want good music that's it, but the bottom line is that Kendrick Lamar just sounds like so many westcoast rappers right now, it's just that the stereotype we have about traditional westcoast music in 2012 is somehow flawed.

I'm from the west and what I can tell G-Funk still popular, The newer acts still get shown love, but I'm likely to hear songs from The Chronic or Alll Eyez from random cars then the new acts.

i believe you, and it makes sense, since musically g-funk is much better than what newer westcoast acts have done so far.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Blasphemy (A) on November 04, 2012, 03:17:44 AM
the west has clearly evolved, and when I say west i mean the offsprings of the NWA legacy, which include many different subgenres as well as the alternative backpacker westcoast shit, since so many rappers feed off both influences.

Kendrick Lamar and his TDE camp all have gangsta influences and backpacker influences as well... and if you think about it even Snoop Dogg and his camp used to perform at the Good Life Café, so they had ties to backpack rap as well.

my point is that Kendrick Lamar isn't a UFO on the westcoast map. he's at the forefront of it, but there's a lot of artists I would compare him to. If you think about it, Terrace Martin is on the same tip (westcoast kinda hipster, strongly gangsta influenced, but not only), Droop-E too, Fashawn, not to mention all the Odd Future shit, Dom Kennedy etc. that's the westcoast nowadays, it ain't gangbanging music, it ain't g-funk (even if the g-funk sonorities are obviously still prevalent). I think it is what it is, we can complain all we what, I personally don't care, I ain't from the west so I don't want the west to sound like this or that, I just want good music that's it, but the bottom line is that Kendrick Lamar just sounds like so many westcoast rappers right now, it's just that the stereotype we have about traditional westcoast music in 2012 is somehow flawed.

I'm from the west and what I can tell G-Funk still popular, The newer acts still get shown love, but I'm likely to hear songs from The Chronic or Alll Eyez from random cars then the new acts.

i believe you, and it makes sense, since musically g-funk is much better than what newer westcoast acts have done so far.

Well from I've seen it seems the newer Acts in the industry can't find a sound that's sellable at the moment. Least during the G-Funk Era everyone had a template they could bite off of, now a sound last a few months and then it fades off. Another thing that really effects the industry is they don't actually invent bangers anymore. Lot of the beats don't sound as hard hitting as they should, nor are the lyrics being delivered with the same prowl. Mainly because they don't try to appeal to anything but ringtones and radio.

Kendrick Lamars Album GKMC is supposed to be some critically acclaimed masterpiece within the industry but barely sold jackshit, even with the so called Aftermath Hype Machine behind hiim his sales were kind of crappy imo. Wiz Khalifa had that Massive Hit in Black and Yellow, you literally couldn't go anywhere without hearing it, but even Rolling Papers sold less.

The Rap industry has always been lower in terms of sales compared to the rest of the industry, it's a nich market despite the fact This is considered the mainstream era, outside of only a few Juggernauts, the rest of the rap industry is basically nothing.The reality of the situation is even if they release a good record, they won't sell, because of Pirating and the fact the fanbase of the genre in general isn't really shit, especially when the majority of the fanbase of the genre Prefers the older Records.

It also has to do with the quality of the music it's self, it's been over-saturated so much to the point where it doesn't matter about quality but quantity, You churn out more records then your competitors the more likely you are to find a gem in a pile of shit, also the more likely you are to create buzz (good or bad, if someones talking about you even if it's bad gets turned positive when you produce something good).

Even then the fact is you're gonna have to keep on Grinding via Touring. It's no wonder Rappers have started coming out with their own Clothing Lines, Drinks, and brands, because the Rap Industry doesn't produce prophet in sales anymore, but in merchandising and Concerts. Lot of these rappers have home made studios because it's cheaper, They buy beats from random producers because it's easier then starting from scratch and can make a recording session quicker. IMO the Industry is in both Decline and on the Rise, The Exposure and Acceptance by mainstream is rising but the Quality of Artist, Music and all around industry is on the decline.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: bouli77 on November 04, 2012, 03:44:48 AM
you're spot on on the grinding aspect, rap is all about the grind now, regardless of the actual music being good or bad. i'm with you on the musical aspect too, to be honest, GKMC was a slight let down production wise especially for a project overseen by Dre, lots of banging beats, but many lukewarm productions too. so far I prefered the overall production on Section .80 (still need to bump GKMC more to get a definitive opinion).

but that's a whole nother debate I guess.... to get back to Kendrick, he does have a regional sound IMO, i'm not from the west but i can definitely draw similarities between him and as diverse an artist as Droop-E, Fashawn, Problem, Tyler the Creator, or Terrace Martin. the game has evolved and a lot of these artists are influenced by the og's on the west but also the biggest artists of their youth : the Jeezy's, Kanye's, Outkast's, so on and so forth. it makes sense, when you like rap music you don't bump an artist just because he's from your area, you bump the biggest artist of the day who you can relate to regardless if he's from here or there. gangsta rappers mostly grew up on KRS-1, Rakim and Ice-T cause they were big when they were young, a lot of south artists (T.I., Z-Ro, Jeezy, Rick Ross) grew up on westcoast artists 'cause they were big when they were young, even if the south had already a movement at the time. etc.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Sccit on November 04, 2012, 01:28:16 PM

Kendrick Lamars Album GKMC is supposed to be some critically acclaimed masterpiece within the industry but barely sold jackshit, even with the so called Aftermath Hype Machine behind hiim his sales were kind of crappy imo. Wiz Khalifa had that Massive Hit in Black and Yellow, you literally couldn't go anywhere without hearing it, but even Rolling Papers sold less.



huh? he sold 250,000 in the first week.....thats pretty damn good
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Blasphemy (A) on November 05, 2012, 02:35:05 AM

Kendrick Lamars Album GKMC is supposed to be some critically acclaimed masterpiece within the industry but barely sold jackshit, even with the so called Aftermath Hype Machine behind hiim his sales were kind of crappy imo. Wiz Khalifa had that Massive Hit in Black and Yellow, you literally couldn't go anywhere without hearing it, but even Rolling Papers sold less.



huh? he sold 250,000 in the first week.....thats pretty damn good


That's probably what's even worse, because you have this Highly Critically Acclaimed album (which has been deemed so by industry insiders), Supposedly 1 of the More Hyped artist of 2012, The Backing of a major if not the biggest rap power house of the 2000s, Including Interscope, The Back of Dr. Dre, the Co-Signing of nearly every rapper in the game, and you didn't even go Gold?

The Fact that the Industry/Fans accept these numbers as acceptable or even good, isn't good for the industry standard. I know their are tons of Factors to take in, but again imo This is part of the declining in quality part. The Rap industry needs a injection of creativity, and most of all creditability (AGAIN this probably only Genre were that word needs to be mentioned). No Fan respects the majority of these new artist. Their Style, Their Image, how they portray themselves as ignorant, petty, and most of all stupid even outside of their musical Persona. The 80s, 90s and 2000s the Artist were Articulate, they could provide pro-founding insight, into the reasons they made their record the way they did, They made fans think  and have earned the respect towards them. They didn't go off like retards off bullshit, expecting to be automatically respected and worshiped with blinders on and then throw a bitch fit when people talk about how crappy they music is. 


Outside of a Few MCs, the majority of this next generation is crap imo. But I can't just blame the groups or the labels, It's like a Cycle of Violence one effects the other and it just continues to spiral.



Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Sccit on November 05, 2012, 01:19:10 PM

Kendrick Lamars Album GKMC is supposed to be some critically acclaimed masterpiece within the industry but barely sold jackshit, even with the so called Aftermath Hype Machine behind hiim his sales were kind of crappy imo. Wiz Khalifa had that Massive Hit in Black and Yellow, you literally couldn't go anywhere without hearing it, but even Rolling Papers sold less.



huh? he sold 250,000 in the first week.....thats pretty damn good


That's probably what's even worse, because you have this Highly Critically Acclaimed album (which has been deemed so by industry insiders), Supposedly 1 of the More Hyped artist of 2012, The Backing of a major if not the biggest rap power house of the 2000s, Including Interscope, The Back of Dr. Dre, the Co-Signing of nearly every rapper in the game, and you didn't even go Gold?

The Fact that the Industry/Fans accept these numbers as acceptable or even good, isn't good for the industry standard. I know their are tons of Factors to take in, but again imo This is part of the declining in quality part. The Rap industry needs a injection of creativity, and most of all creditability (AGAIN this probably only Genre were that word needs to be mentioned). No Fan respects the majority of these new artist. Their Style, Their Image, how they portray themselves as ignorant, petty, and most of all stupid even outside of their musical Persona. The 80s, 90s and 2000s the Artist were Articulate, they could provide pro-founding insight, into the reasons they made their record the way they did, They made fans think  and have earned the respect towards them. They didn't go off like retards off bullshit, expecting to be automatically respected and worshiped with blinders on and then throw a bitch fit when people talk about how crappy they music is. 


Outside of a Few MCs, the majority of this next generation is crap imo. But I can't just blame the groups or the labels, It's like a Cycle of Violence one effects the other and it just continues to spiral.






250 in the first week woulda been good in 2001...nowadays, it's just great. rap albums rarrrrely go gold in the first week. kendrick is not a household name, theres no chance he goes gold in 1 week lol. now, the album will go platinum, which is definitely a success....but i see what ur saying, numbers are down. but xzibit woulda been a better example. he sold 3,200 in the first week after coming out with his best album in over 10 years.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Mr. Theo on November 05, 2012, 04:04:30 PM
TDE is a Likwit Crew of this century.

They have a very diverse sound. But it is still West Coast !

Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Blasphemy (A) on November 05, 2012, 08:15:31 PM

Kendrick Lamars Album GKMC is supposed to be some critically acclaimed masterpiece within the industry but barely sold jackshit, even with the so called Aftermath Hype Machine behind hiim his sales were kind of crappy imo. Wiz Khalifa had that Massive Hit in Black and Yellow, you literally couldn't go anywhere without hearing it, but even Rolling Papers sold less.



huh? he sold 250,000 in the first week.....thats pretty damn good


That's probably what's even worse, because you have this Highly Critically Acclaimed album (which has been deemed so by industry insiders), Supposedly 1 of the More Hyped artist of 2012, The Backing of a major if not the biggest rap power house of the 2000s, Including Interscope, The Back of Dr. Dre, the Co-Signing of nearly every rapper in the game, and you didn't even go Gold?

The Fact that the Industry/Fans accept these numbers as acceptable or even good, isn't good for the industry standard. I know their are tons of Factors to take in, but again imo This is part of the declining in quality part. The Rap industry needs a injection of creativity, and most of all creditability (AGAIN this probably only Genre were that word needs to be mentioned). No Fan respects the majority of these new artist. Their Style, Their Image, how they portray themselves as ignorant, petty, and most of all stupid even outside of their musical Persona. The 80s, 90s and 2000s the Artist were Articulate, they could provide pro-founding insight, into the reasons they made their record the way they did, They made fans think  and have earned the respect towards them. They didn't go off like retards off bullshit, expecting to be automatically respected and worshiped with blinders on and then throw a bitch fit when people talk about how crappy they music is. 


Outside of a Few MCs, the majority of this next generation is crap imo. But I can't just blame the groups or the labels, It's like a Cycle of Violence one effects the other and it just continues to spiral.






250 in the first week woulda been good in 2001...nowadays, it's just great. rap albums rarrrrely go gold in the first week. kendrick is not a household name, theres no chance he goes gold in 1 week lol. now, the album will go platinum, which is definitely a success....but i see what ur saying, numbers are down. but xzibit woulda been a better example. he sold 3,200 in the first week after coming out with his best album in over 10 years.

Napalm selling so Low doesn't surprise me, he only release 1 single, The Single it's self wasn't a Juggernaut, didn't even chart if I recall, he didn't do that much promotion and then releases the album just in 1 months time. That IMO was really bad marketing. Game didn't stop releasing single after single until he had some kind of hit when it came to red. A lot of his fans (this forum also) criticized him for doing that, but in the end he managed to find some sorta charting song. Of Course he sold less then Kendrick but Given the Lack Luster Third Album it wasn't surprising.

But Xzibit completely fucked up the Release of Napalm, it's no wonder he sold so low. He didn't have a hit single, he only released 1 single, barely gave any interviews, he basically popped up outta no where, and before buzz could be spread he released it literally in a months time. I'm sorry but as good as the album is (Which it is, It's gotten non-stop rotation in the ride right now) he fucked up royal. If your product isn't on peoples minds, or exposed enough it's not gonna sell even if it's the cure for cancer.

But yeah Sells are down all over is the main point. The Problem is the rappers in the industry just don't put out the same quality that they used too. E-40 shat out 3 Albums in a row and they barely contained anything good imo. The Rappers need to get into the Thriller state of Mind. When Jackson made Thriller the concept wasn't just oh have a few hit singles and release the album, the concept was that every song on the album be a hit. Rappers need that today. Xzibit released 1 single and then just released the album, Game got him self a hit after he released a bunch of crappy singles, then the hit song was literally the high point of his album. With the way the industry is I'd rather listen to old funk records then any new shit because it's gotten so bad.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: jonathandubcnn on November 05, 2012, 10:11:56 PM
Kendrick Lamar is a WEST COAST rapper with obvious influences from all music, which is a good thing. He just raised the bar for the entire WEST COAST hip-hop community.  Just because he doesn't have melodic g-funk synth sounds it doesn't make it less "west coast".  Just because he is so advanced lyrically with complex rhyme structures and different cadences, doesn't mean he's not west coast.  Kendrick Lamar from Compton, California shows the growth of WEST COAST rap music and IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!  #compton

Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: calihoodsta00 on November 06, 2012, 06:56:15 PM
^^ I couldn't agree more. Kendrick raised that fuckin bar super high the sad part is that eastcoast praises Kendrick more then the westcoast cause eastcoast is more into true lyricism more than the westcoast who's all about g_funk & gangsta rap. I can remember when game first dropped they ya'll called him a eastcoast rapper too damn! I swear ya'll don't appreciate shit if it ain't g-funk n shit open ya ears ya'll #westwest#
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar is an EAST COAST rapper
Post by: Sccit on November 06, 2012, 07:02:08 PM
where the fuck the balance at? al i hear is either "kendrick is the greatest!" or "kendrick is weak!"...whatever happened to him just bein a solid mc? he's not droppin classics and he's not floppin' either. he's makin good music and still growing as an artists...mufuckaz saying he's the west coast messiah and mufuckaz sayin he's worthless both need 2 shut the fuck up.