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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: J. B A N A N A S on November 13, 2012, 08:28:23 PM
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Muslims, answer for this, NOW!
-Allah
http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/11/13/249405.html (http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/11/13/249405.html)
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According to Brian, Allah only approves of cuckold porn. The rest are haram, except for gay porn.
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There is often a huge difference between who you claim to be / try to become, and who you really are...
Even Iblis (Satan) will not suffer as much as the hypocrites, they will take the lower place in Hell.
But only the Almighty knows the hearts
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Muslims, answer for this, NOW!
http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/11/13/249405.html (http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/11/13/249405.html)
You are right about your criticism.
Muslims and Islam is separate.
Muslims is people like you and me. With their faults and weaknesses. Tempted by the nr 1 enemy of mankind.
And Islam is the guideline for mankind, 2 make them a better character, in this live, so they don't fall 2 tricks of the evil that lurks around every corner.
Now we live in an age, that our ancestors have never experienced. Our test as mankind is the worst in this day and age then all our ancestors ever experienced.
You will see more beautiful woman in one day, in the form of ad's, indecent website etc. Then your grand grand father has in his whole live.
This has a psychological and emotional effect that you can not imagine.
Now our beloved Prophet (saw) warned us of an age that would come more then 1400 years ago!
He said, there will come an age, were holding on 2 your religion is like holding on 2 hot coal.
He said, The mumin (believer) will go 2 bed as an believer and wake up as an unbeliever.
The unbeliever would go 2 bed as an unbeliever and wake up as a believer.
-meaning that the change of believe 2 unbelieve would change from day 2 day-
He Said, women would be dressed, but yet be naked. (when you walk down the street you see what I mean)
He Said, people would been engaged in sexual activity in public. And nobody would be bothered.
The most honoured amongst them, would ask them if they could go begind a wall.
This man who came from the deserts of Arabia, would speak of this more then 1400 years ago. It would be wise of you 2 take another look at this man, 2 see what he has 2 say.
Now this world has also contaminated our women... I mean Muslim women.
We in our holy book are allowed 2 have up 2 four wives.
Our women now don't accept that.
Ask yourself, if you had 4 wives (not bitches, who are disloyal and running around behind ya back)
Wives who honour and respect you. And are yours for pleasure.
Would you need any of that nasty stuff that they bombard you with?
Modern western civilisation says NO, one man one woman! That is it.
But while you married they bombard you with images of other women day andnight.
The greatest trick that the devil ever pulled, is 2 Tell the world that he did not exist.
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I'm generally very tolerant. I was raised with the knowledge of the Koran, among other beliefs. I have a few Muslim mates. But seriously, the things that have come from the faith lately is this stupidest shit. Rioting over a South-Park low budget YouTube video?Bear in mind I'm as tolerant as a modern day person can get. The only thing that would push me over the edge ( probably) is if I had a son and he decided to be a fuckin transexual. That shit would break my fuckin heart. Maybe. I'd deal with it as it happened. Anyway, the dumbest shit comes out of Islam these days. Throwing acid on little girls? Shooting little girls? You serious? Sorry to sound like sum pro-Western bot, but die fast you fucks. I'm happy Obama decided to scale down the troops and upscale the robotic warfare on you faggots, stick you for you're rare earth mins. I fully understand it. If I had the Military-Industrial complex whispering in my ear over that shit trying to get paid, I'd be like 'fuck it' too. Religion breeds delightful ignorance that is an excellent excuse for making money. They weren't all bad, God knows Gaddafi achieved some amazing things, and Saddamn was a righteous monster with good socialist policies. But Islam is a doctrine steeped in good intentions and brainwashing, how can it not be a target everybody can agree upon? Muslims on this forum make the point daily with their detached idiocy and the stupid shit they say like they're brainwashed into extremism. Maybe if you'd learn some 'liberalism' and swallow that shit you'd get along with everybody else in the world. Oh and 'halal' is some faggot brainwashed shit. It's not humane or holy at all. Bleed an animal slowly to death? Seriously, you pricks are asking for no mercy from the liberal left or the right? That's why it don't stop. Anyway, I'm not a hypocrit, capitalism is on some bullshit too, Monsanto and cows force fed corn standing in their own shit breeding for more potent forms of ecoli while Micky Ds slangs that shit. Whatever happened to the normal non-extremist people? That's why Obana won because even as a symbol, he's all relatively socially liberal people have.
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...and 'Satan' is fuckin awesome. Whoever thinks otherwise just hasn't done the knowledge on that cat. Fuck what you think, it's about what you know.
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@Overfiend
I understand your frustration, i really do.
If I didn't know the political, economical, historical and last but not least religious aspects of the Muslim region, I would come 2 the same conclusion.
Bur 2 be fair you throw a lot questions at me, while I can only answer one at the time.
Bottom line is, Islam is extremist fanatics, they kill anything in their path, and want 2 dominate the whole world and subjugate women.
This is what you try 2 say.
Well congratulations: you have been graduated 2 the school of Zion:
Remember this is 2003, before Arab spring, before Iraq war, before The Islamic cartoons, before any insults:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm79v2uVB-U
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...and 'Satan' is fuckin awesome. Whoever thinks otherwise just hasn't done the knowledge on that cat. Fuck what you think, it's about what you know.
He does seem like a pretty cool guy. I added him on Facebook too.
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@Overfiend
I understand your frustration, i really do.
If I didn't know the political, economical, historical and last but not least religious aspects of the Muslim region, I would come 2 the same conclusion.
Bur 2 be fair you throw a lot questions at me, while I can only answer one at the time.
Bottom line is, Islam is extremist fanatics, they kill anything in their path, and want 2 dominate the whole world and subjugate women.
This is what you try 2 say.
Well congratulations: you have been graduated 2 the school of Zion:
Remember this is 2003, before Arab spring, before Iraq war, before The Islamic cartoons, before any insults:
https://www.youtube.com/v/Cm79v2uVB-U
I was going to post it ;)
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Too much misunderstandings and ignorance about Islam, it's annoying...
We live in a era in which everybody has an opinion on everything, people love to speak about subject they don't master.
Truth doesn't come out of the mouth of the media liars and their presstitutes
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...and 'Satan' is fuckin awesome. Whoever thinks otherwise just hasn't done the knowledge on that cat. Fuck what you think, it's about what you know.
Yeah if you think systematically opposing nature at every opportunity is cool.
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Dear Brothers and Sisters, believers and non-believers,
The world is heading towards a colliding course.
If we don't clean up our act today and try 2 improve ourself and the the loved ones around us, maybe tomorrow is too late.
That is all I have 2 say. not because I feel better then you. That would be arrogant and dishonest.
We all have our faults and weaknesses.
One day the devil wins, the other day you will win. It is an everyday struggle.
Try your best and Allah (God) will help you and will forgive you.
While you are at it, try remembering the One who made anything for you possible. The One and only creator.
Even if it is just 1 minute a day.
Sallam Oe leikom
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@Overfiend
I understand your frustration, i really do.
If I didn't know the political, economical, historical and last but not least religious aspects of the Muslim region, I would come 2 the same conclusion.
Bur 2 be fair you throw a lot questions at me, while I can only answer one at the time.
Bottom line is, Islam is extremist fanatics, they kill anything in their path, and want 2 dominate the whole world and subjugate women.
This is what you try 2 say.
Well congratulations: you have been graduated 2 the school of Zion:
Remember this is 2003, before Arab spring, before Iraq war, before The Islamic cartoons, before any insults:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm79v2uVB-U
You see, you got it twisted. I'm not 'anti-Islam' at all, or pro-Zionist. I'm pro-humanity. I know a lot of Muslims (who live in a Western country) and know they are simply normal people who want what everybody else wants. In-fact I like a lot of aspects of Islam. But the fact you try to paint me as a 'Zionist' simply because I level criticism at Islam illustrates my point: that Islam takes itself too seriously, is incapable of dealing with criticism (or humor), and incapable of seeing itself within the context of the rest of world. You have Jewish comedians poking fun at themselves in Hollywood, and people rip on Christianity all the time. Hell, I remember an 'art' exhibition called 'Piss-Christ' that featured a crucifix with Christ within a vat of urine. But, Christ. Make a cartoon about Mohammad and people get killed. Religion of peace? The Bible says an 'eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. The Satanic Bible says 'if someone takes your tooth, you take their head'. I'm not saying I dig that, by any means. But in practice, a lot of religions seem closer to this Satanic concept, even though they would officially deplore anything to do with the Church of Satan. One reason why the late Anton LaVey (founder of the Church of Satan) deemed most major religions to be hypocrites, and Satanism to be one of the only honest religions.
Why don't you just come out and say "yeah the Taliban are dickheads"? Why don't you just come out and say "yeah most people rioting and killing Westerners over Mohammed cartoons are overly sensitive because they are poorly educated and have a limited world view, and Islam is all they got so they lack a context in which to perceive their faith with the rest of the world"? Where is the criticism from within Islam about the actions of Muslims in the name of their faith? Perhaps I don't know enough about the whole subject.
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...and 'Satan' is fuckin awesome. Whoever thinks otherwise just hasn't done the knowledge on that cat. Fuck what you think, it's about what you know.
Yeah if you think systematically opposing nature at every opportunity is cool.
Perhaps your idea of 'Satanism' is different. I myself am not specifically a 'Satanist', although my concept of it is not limited to the Christian-Judeo-centric view. I just read different books about different faiths and can dig some aspects of each one.
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...and 'Satan' is fuckin awesome. Whoever thinks otherwise just hasn't done the knowledge on that cat. Fuck what you think, it's about what you know.
Yeah if you think systematically opposing nature at every opportunity is cool.
Perhaps your idea of 'Satanism' is different. I myself am not specifically a 'Satanist', although my concept of it is not limited to the Christian-Judeo-centric view. I just read different books about different faiths and can dig some aspects of each one.
Lol I'd say it's you who doesn't understand satanism. The motto of satanism is "Do as thou wilt". Meaning do whatever you please, regardless of the consequences and who it effects. I suggest reading some Aleister Crowley (aka The Beast aka the wickedest man alive) / Anton LaVey / Albert Pike.
And FYI, satanism is the intended antithesis of christiantity, so you can't separate the 2. Im not a christian (nor slave to any religion) but I def understand where it is coming from. Satanism is the more modern version of luciferianism (although the extremely high elitists today are luciferian, as their thousands year old bloodline leads them back to the polytheism days).
There is absolutely nothing cool about satanism, unless you're a liar / thief / murderer / overall piece of shit. There are lots of those people in the world today unfortunately.
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You see, you got it twisted. I'm not 'anti-Islam' at all, or pro-Zionist.
You are missing the point of the video.
The point was there is a GREAT Deception going on.
Did you not find that video amazing (remember it was from 2003) in it's prediction about the events going on today?
The speaker in that video has some great spiritual insight. Where did he get it from?
How do we know these events, because we have got guidance in the form of the holy Quran and the Sunnah.
You and I would be clueless without these guidance.
But you ofcourse will disagree, so keep following that book of yours. I won't stop ya.
Every individual has his one quest for truth.
But When you stand before your Lord, prepare your answer 2 him.
Back 2 the deception.
Muslims are not immune 2 this deception.
I dear 2 say, they are the mayority 2 be deceived in this time and age will also be muslims. Look at the bloodshed that they spill, weakening muslim countries from within. These fighters, think they are fighting a just cause, but ultimatly are following the worst enemy of mankind.
But they will not stop there, they already are planning 2 clash US/Europe with Russia/China. To get rid of any future competition.
You don't believe me, wait until they attack Iran.
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...and 'Satan' is fuckin awesome. Whoever thinks otherwise just hasn't done the knowledge on that cat. Fuck what you think, it's about what you know.
Yeah if you think systematically opposing nature at every opportunity is cool.
Perhaps your idea of 'Satanism' is different. I myself am not specifically a 'Satanist', although my concept of it is not limited to the Christian-Judeo-centric view. I just read different books about different faiths and can dig some aspects of each one.
Lol I'd say it's you who doesn't understand satanism. The motto of satanism is "Do as thou wilt". Meaning do whatever you please, regardless of the consequences and who it effects. I suggest reading some Aleister Crowley (aka The Beast aka the wickedest man alive) / Anton LaVey / Albert Pike.
And FYI, satanism is the intended antithesis of christiantity, so you can't separate the 2. Im not a christian (nor slave to any religion) but I def understand where it is coming from. Satanism is the more modern version of luciferianism (although the extremely high elitists today are luciferian, as their thousands year old bloodline leads them back to the polytheism days).
There is absolutely nothing cool about satanism, unless you're a liar / thief / murderer / overall piece of shit. There are lots of those people in the world today unfortunately.
I have read Aleister Crowley and Anton LaVey's works. You're not dropping any knowledge here, mate. Wake-up.
In Anton's Satanic Bible, he defines Crowley's concept of 'Do What Thou Wilt', to be (arguably) clearer. It doesn't actually mean doing whatever the fuck you want regardless of the consequences to whom or what it effects. The fact you reckon it does shows that you haven't actually independently read it for yourself. That herd mentality is dangerous, before you know it you're lynching people for being witches, conducting 'exorcisms' on mentally ill people, and believing anything the government tells us about 2 planes colliding with 3 towers. But not you, surely? No, you are informed! You're not one of the herd! You've read 'Behold a Pale Horse!'. Hahahaaa. Ok, straight from the late 'Demon-Lord' himself:
"Satanism encourages any form of...expression you may desire, so long as it hurts no one else".
-Anton LaVey, The Satanic Bible
Anyway, I'm not here to defend Satanism. After-all, its the type of 'religion' that revels in being misunderstood, hated, and despised. Its kind of its thing.
Its debate-able whether Crowley even believed in the 'Devil' himself, or even LaVey who recognized that such a thing was unnecessary: they were just shit-stirrers who recognized that dogma and ritual are essential for human-beings. The whole gist of it, is that the potential for good and evil rests within people themselves, and recognizing this is essential for humanity to grow the fuck up and quit passing the buck for its actions to external 'gods' and 'beings' and take responsibility for its own freedom and actions. If you look at the Tarot card of the Devil, a concept of Satan older than LaVey or Crowley or Christianity, it shows a half goat-half man (Pan) with a man and a woman chained at his feet. Perhaps the earliest representation of our sub-consciousness. It represents the animality of human-beings and our relationship to this side of ourselves (excess, greed, selfishness, baseness, ignorance, your impulses, etc), that ultimately needs to be self-critically recognized and addressed, and controlled (not necessarily outright denied, hence 'self-controlled selfishness) for the Fool to succeed. Here's an excerpt of a Tarot interpretation of the Devil card:
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"All I am doing is bringing out what is already in you," The Goat-God responds mildly. "Such feelings are nothing to fear, nothing to be ashamed of, or even to avoid. They are even useful to helping you in your quest for spirituality, though many try to pretend otherwise."
The Fool gestures angrily at the chained men and women, "You say that even though these are clearly enslaved to the material world?"
The Goat-god mimics the Fool's gesture. "Take another look." The Fool does so, and realizes that the chained collars the men and women wear are wide enough for them to easily slip off over their heads. "They can be free if they wish to be," the Goat-god says, "They remain here because they want to be controlled by their base, bestial desires. There are, however, others…."
At this the Goat-god gestures upward, toward the peak of the mountain. "…Others who have used these same impulses to climb to the highest heights. If they had denied their desires they'd never have gotten there."
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This is still at the heart of LaVey's conception of 'Satanism", when asked whether Satanism encourages drug use and alcoholism, LaVey replied:
“We certainly don’t. Both are self-destructive. Typical of losers. And we don’t want losers. Satanism is a winner’s creed".
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Muslims, answer for this, NOW!
http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/11/13/249405.html (http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/11/13/249405.html)
Now this world has also contaminated our women... I mean Muslim women.
We in our holy book are allowed 2 have up 2 four wives.
Our women now don't accept that.
Ask yourself, if you had 4 wives (not bitches, who are disloyal and running around behind ya back)
Wives who honour and respect you. And are yours for pleasure.
Would you need any of that nasty stuff that they bombard you with?
Modern western civilisation says NO, one man one woman! That is it.
But while you married they bombard you with images of other women day andnight.
I'm not a muslim, and i don't want to sound like i'm bashing it (all religions i believe have things i agree & disagree with), but i have to disagree with some points.
Why is it ok for a man to have up to 4 wifes and not the other way around? I don't think it's only western civilisation that says one man & one woman.
Women 'are yours for pleasure'?
You can't make a post against the decline in morality and how women have become sexual objects and then post the above points!
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I'm not a muslim, and i don't want to sound like i'm bashing it (all religions i believe have things i agree & disagree with), but i have to disagree with some points.
Why is it ok for a man to have up to 4 wifes and not the other way around? I don't think it's only western civilisation that says one man & one woman.
Women 'are yours for pleasure'?
You can't make a post against the decline in morality and how women have become sexual objects and then post the above points!
Maybe I stated it the wrong way.
Muslims may have up 2 four wives. If you want just one it is also possible.
But for some men that is not enough so God Allowed them 2 have more then one wife.
It is unnatural 2 have more then one husband.
The first problem, who is the daddy when a woman gets pregnant.
Then again there are more girls born then boys, where is you solution for that.
When there are not enough men n 2 marry, what will women do? They gonna be stealing husbands.
About pleasure, I meant the pleasures in a marriage which is natural.
In Islam it is not Haram for a man or a woman 2 have pleasure from one and other.
This is the mans point of view.
I can also give you the womans point of view.
A woman in islam has also right form her husband for pleasure and she has 2 be taken care of.
It is her right.
If she works, she can spend it on herself. Man can not use that money for the family, only if she agrees.
Here is a funny video where a muslim Sheik explains the point of view of sexual objects,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF2TiRMELoY
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There is often a huge difference between who you claim to be / try to become, and who you really are...
Even Iblis (Satan) will not suffer as much as the hypocrites, they will take the lower place in Hell.
But only the Almighty knows the hearts
That's a good post.
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Overfiend my man, you have clearly selectively chosen what you choose to be satanism, because I can cite you passages in Crowley's books in which he speaks upon the virtues of sacrificing children, pecking Jesus's eyes out, blinding Allah etc. It turns my stomach to believe that anyone would be a "fan" of such books. Even the satantic church recognised that Crowley was so brazen in his despicable inhuman ways that they distance themselves from him anyway...I digress. Here is one of the quotes, one of the many enlighening quotes you can find..
Curse them! Curse them! Curse them!" With my Hawk's head I peck at the eyes of Jesus as he hangs upon the cross. I flap my wings in the face of Mohammed & blind him. With my claws I tear out the flesh of the Indian and the Buddhist, Mongol and Din. Bahlasti! Ompehda! I spit on your crapulous creeds.
What people fail to recognise about these attacks on muslim countries is that they are targeting countries like Syria which is NOT under Islamic law, same too for Iraq, in the latter country, Saddam even allowed for people to own semi auto's (yes semi auto's) one of the best health services in the world. likewise Gaddafi may have had an evil side to him but he, like the previous ones are the moderates, these islamic fighters pouring in are the REAL ENEMY, not only against muslims but they are a greater threat than anything else and CONSIDER the fact thase scum have been given all sorts of heavy weaponry. With their extremist, hateful, murderous tendencies, they have given them the means of weaking havoc against western targets and then you will have a real reason to hate.
It's ironic though, we talk about islamic fundamentalism, but they are only one cog in the fundamentalist agenda, the real fundamentalists are the neo global feudal players who are emboldening and strengthening a real enemy in order to further their sick game. As for muslims being hypocritical, sure, of course they are, we all hypocrites, and I don't for one moment approve of some of the horrific things which muslims are subjected to in their home lands and consider it backwards, then again, they probably consider that our mindless tv addicted ways are equally backwards and the harm will do upon ourselves with heavy drinking, drugs, casual sex, exposure to depraved music, our intake of foods contaiminated with all sorts of chemicals and preservatives, eating an animal who whilst alive had been cannibalised too
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...and 'Satan' is fuckin awesome. Whoever thinks otherwise just hasn't done the knowledge on that cat. Fuck what you think, it's about what you know.
Yeah if you think systematically opposing nature at every opportunity is cool.
Perhaps your idea of 'Satanism' is different. I myself am not specifically a 'Satanist', although my concept of it is not limited to the Christian-Judeo-centric view. I just read different books about different faiths and can dig some aspects of each one.
Lol I'd say it's you who doesn't understand satanism. The motto of satanism is "Do as thou wilt". Meaning do whatever you please, regardless of the consequences and who it effects. I suggest reading some Aleister Crowley (aka The Beast aka the wickedest man alive) / Anton LaVey / Albert Pike.
And FYI, satanism is the intended antithesis of christiantity, so you can't separate the 2. Im not a christian (nor slave to any religion) but I def understand where it is coming from. Satanism is the more modern version of luciferianism (although the extremely high elitists today are luciferian, as their thousands year old bloodline leads them back to the polytheism days).
There is absolutely nothing cool about satanism, unless you're a liar / thief / murderer / overall piece of shit. There are lots of those people in the world today unfortunately.
I figure The Church of Satan is a parody of Christianity because from what I've read it's all about relying on ones self and not some magical figure to do everything for you.
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...and 'Satan' is fuckin awesome. Whoever thinks otherwise just hasn't done the knowledge on that cat. Fuck what you think, it's about what you know.
Yeah if you think systematically opposing nature at every opportunity is cool.
Perhaps your idea of 'Satanism' is different. I myself am not specifically a 'Satanist', although my concept of it is not limited to the Christian-Judeo-centric view. I just read different books about different faiths and can dig some aspects of each one.
Lol I'd say it's you who doesn't understand satanism. The motto of satanism is "Do as thou wilt". Meaning do whatever you please, regardless of the consequences and who it effects. I suggest reading some Aleister Crowley (aka The Beast aka the wickedest man alive) / Anton LaVey / Albert Pike.
And FYI, satanism is the intended antithesis of christiantity, so you can't separate the 2. Im not a christian (nor slave to any religion) but I def understand where it is coming from. Satanism is the more modern version of luciferianism (although the extremely high elitists today are luciferian, as their thousands year old bloodline leads them back to the polytheism days).
There is absolutely nothing cool about satanism, unless you're a liar / thief / murderer / overall piece of shit. There are lots of those people in the world today unfortunately.
I figure The Church of Satan is a parody of Christianity because from what I've read it's all about relying on ones self and not some magical figure to do everything for you.
It's not a parody my friend, but I think I get what you're saying...it certainly mocks Christianity and nature though. They absolutely believe in a magical figure themselves, which is Satan.