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Title: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on November 16, 2012, 07:15:06 PM
Not a smart career move for Xzibit.  

Remember back in 02 things were looking up for Xzibit and he was signed to Paul Rosenbergs management company Goliath artists.   But Xzibit's album had a lot of filler and he was clearly fading out of his prime as an artist.  Apparently at some point the relationship with goliath artists wasn't working out.  So Paul told him that.

Xzibit then replied to Paul to "say that shit to my face!"

I mean... imagine, after all Eminem did to help push Xzibit to superstardom Xzibit would say that shit to Paul.  I love X, he's one of my top 5 alltime but that's a career move almost as dumb as Royce choosing his manager over Dre in 00'.
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: D-Nice on November 16, 2012, 07:25:30 PM
Em pushing X's career to superstardom?
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on November 16, 2012, 07:57:07 PM
L
Em pushing X's career to superstardom?

Hell yeah...

Xzibit (if eminem was born) = Game, Ice Cube, Mack 10
Xzibit (if eminem was never born) =  Tash, King Tee, Rass Kass

Look, obviously Xzibit already had two great albums before he started fucking with Eminem.  But, those albums, as good as they were still failed to go gold.  Eminen helped blow up Dres album which in turn lead to Up and Smoke tour and resergence of the west, and Ems work on classic cuts like "Say My Name", "Don't Approach Me", "What's the Diffference", "Bitch Please 2" and so on all helped to not only propel him to platinum superstar but also made for some great music
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: D-Nice on November 16, 2012, 08:03:42 PM
So Dre and Snoop had nothing to do with Xzibit's success?  ::)
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on November 16, 2012, 08:04:49 PM
another case of Infant being wrong



Xzibit blew up with Bitch Please (thanks to Snoop) ....everyone knows this.
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on November 16, 2012, 08:21:39 PM
So Dre and Snoop had nothing to do with Xzibit's success?  ::)

Dre and Snoop were a huge factor in Xzibits success.  But this thread isn't about Dre and Snoop.  This thread is about Xzibit disrespecting Ems friend and manager after all they did to help him in his career.

I would be making a similar thread if Xzibit had dissed Dre or Snoop in any way.
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: D-Nice on November 16, 2012, 08:24:09 PM
So Dre and Snoop had nothing to do with Xzibit's success?  ::)

Dre and Snoop were a huge factor in Xzibits success.  But this thread isn't about Dre and Snoop.  This thread is about Xzibit disrespecting Ems friend and manager after all they did to help him in his career.

I would be making a similar thread if Xzibit had dissed Dre or Snoop in any way.

So X is not allowed to speak his opinion? He gave his observation of what happened and why he thinks Em does not talk to him. Does Paul probably have a different side to the story? Yeah probably, but that shit happens all the time between people.
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: Jimmy H. on November 16, 2012, 10:34:59 PM
Sorry but no, just no. Rosenberg was Xzibit's manager as well. On a public level, I've never seen Xzibit diss him so I don't know where that conclusion comes from.
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: Sccit on November 16, 2012, 10:41:48 PM
Don't know the details of what happened, so I won't judge the situation. Someone needs to ask X bout that because he didn't make it that clear on the song.
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: Smokin Briccz on November 16, 2012, 11:02:50 PM
they need to have forum people on Hip Hop Squares, fuck all those famous people they put on there  :D
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: T-o-m on November 17, 2012, 12:33:48 AM
Yeah lets pretend like it was all em contribution and not Dre in the first place  ::)


Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: Billooh on November 17, 2012, 02:15:10 AM
L
Em pushing X's career to superstardom?

Hell yeah...

Xzibit (if eminem was born) = Game, Ice Cube, Mack 10
Xzibit (if eminem was never born) =  Tash, King Tee, Rass Kass

Look, obviously Xzibit already had two great albums before he started fucking with Eminem.  But, those albums, as good as they were still failed to go gold.  Eminen helped blow up Dres album which in turn lead to Up and Smoke tour and resergence of the west, and Ems work on classic cuts like "Say My Name", "Don't Approach Me", "What's the Diffference", "Bitch Please 2" and so on all helped to not only propel him to platinum superstar but also made for some great music



What are you saying?  :o  Lol Eminem didn't do ANYTHING with X's career which can be compared to what X has done him self + Dre & Snoops help Lol, You don't know what you're talking about. In that case (let's use your logic) you could say that if King Tee wasn't born then X wouldn't be there Because he put him up in the first place. And if i should use your logic again we could say X wouldn't be there without Nate Dogg because he was on BITCH PLEASE, Been A Long Time, Multiply and My Name and etc which were straight up classics? It doesn't work like that in this case. No disrespect but i think you got it totally wrong here about X being there without Em.
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: The_Offence on November 17, 2012, 05:05:23 AM
Dre and Snoop pushed X's Career. X did a couple tracks with Em and now EM is responsible for his career  :D :D eminem has never made anybody into a star by himself. where's D12 ? where's Obie Trice ? where's cashis ? yelawolf and slaughterhouse built their rep before signing with Em and he's yet to take them to that next level.. em & 50's careers is are on it's last leg. most people are just not really feeling the music they're making right now. when is the last time you've heard somebody bumping some eminem ? the only  thing thats keeping Em afloat right now is his legacy, you can't deny the fact that most of his new shit just gets a shoulder shrug.  
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on November 17, 2012, 05:50:53 AM
LOL... if I say, "People just wouldn't love cofee as much without the cream".  You idiots would be like, "what the fuck, this nicca is dissin sugar, like sugar never did nothing for coffee!"

Once again, Dre and Snoop played a solid role in helping to blow up Xzibits career.  They did as much or more than Em did.  But this thread isn't about Dre or Snoop, because X wasn't on his new album dissin Dre and Snoop, X is is on the new album dissin Em's manager and friend Paul Rosenberg.

X cursed at Paul in the past and apparently it pissed Em off so much that Em told X he "didn't recognize (him)"
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: Billooh on November 17, 2012, 06:46:43 AM
LOL... if I say, "People just wouldn't love cofee as much without the cream".  You idiots would be like, "what the fuck, this nicca is dissin sugar, like sugar never did nothing for coffee!"

Once again, Dre and Snoop played a solid role in helping to blow up Xzibits career.  They did as much or more than Em did.  But this thread isn't about Dre or Snoop, because X wasn't on his new album dissin Dre and Snoop, X is is on the new album dissin Em's manager and friend Paul Rosenberg.

X cursed at Paul in the past and apparently it pissed Em off so much that Em told X he "didn't recognize (him)"

I know the thread isn't about Dre & Snoop, but you have clearly missed the point in what we've said. Em hasn't done anything close to what you're trying to make it look like. And then i mentioned Snoop & Dre as the ones who has done something - not stating that they got dissed but an EXAMPLE to make my point. But yes X were responding to something that happened with him and Em's manager.
 
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: Desert Lord on November 17, 2012, 07:44:33 AM
i don't think that anyone of us can build a reasonable opinion on this, because none of us know x, em or rosenberg personally...
all i know is that xzibit gave us a nearly classic record and kept it very real!
big up to x!! he really derseves to get his shine back period!
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on November 17, 2012, 08:54:05 AM
i don't think that anyone of us can build a reasonable opinion on this, because none of us know x, em or rosenberg personally...
all i know is that xzibit gave us a nearly classic record and kept it very real!
big up to x!! he really derseves to get his shine back period!

I agree with what you and Sccit said and I'm happy Xzibit finally came back with a hott album this time around....

But, without knowing everything, I could be wrong... but it definitely sounds like to me that Xzibit was falling off when he was signed to Goliath management, and I could see Paul telling him it wasn't working out and it sounds like X got angry with Paul.. And that shit isn't cool because Em and Paul did so much for Xzibits career.  Eminem was loyal to X and shouted him out and gave him props and exposure and the song is actually about regrets so it sounds like even Xzibit himself regrets talking shit to Paul.
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: Black Excellence on November 17, 2012, 10:28:08 AM
So Dre and Snoop had nothing to do with Xzibit's success?  ::)
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: ICHI THE KILLER on November 17, 2012, 01:09:32 PM
i don't think that anyone of us can build a reasonable opinion on this, because none of us know x, em or rosenberg personally...
all i know is that xzibit gave us a nearly classic record and kept it very real!
big up to x!! he really derseves to get his shine back period!

I agree with what you and Sccit said and I'm happy Xzibit finally came back with a hott album this time around....

But, without knowing everything, I could be wrong... but it definitely sounds like to me that Xzibit was falling off when he was signed to Goliath management, and I could see Paul telling him it wasn't working out and it sounds like X got angry with Paul.. And that shit isn't cool because Em and Paul did so much for Xzibits career.  Eminem was loyal to X and shouted him out and gave him props and exposure and the song is actually about regrets so it sounds like even Xzibit himself regrets talking shit to Paul.

so please tell us what they did for X to give him shine and success? ::) ::) before he had exposure from Snoop & Dre
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: Jimmy H. on November 17, 2012, 01:32:09 PM
This is all just speculative based on your own interpretation of a song Xzibit put out. It's silly to even go on talking about in the terms that you are because we're not talking about X being disrespectful to one of Eminem's closest friends. We are talking about a person who was at one time, their mutual manager. Em may have a close relationship with Paul but at the end of the day, that has nothing to do with Eminem, it's about Paul and Xzibit. Paul wasn't some guy who just came in and helped Xzibit on the strength of love. He was his MANAGER. A manager is supposed to help your career. That's what they get paid for. You're blowing this up like it's Dre, Eazy, and Jerry Heller kind of shit.
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: LostAngel on November 19, 2012, 04:30:13 AM
You all got it wrong. Eminem wanted to sign Xzibit to his Shady Records in 2003 when X was signed to Columbia Records. Columbia Records heard about that and didn't wanted to let Xzibit, and then Eminem wanted to pay that contract, but Paul told No to Eminem. Paul was mutual manager for both of them, so Paul did shit to X and it's not the other way around. You Infinite or whatever, 1st try to find the truth then say X did something wrong there and he should feel sorry. He was a victim here. Like he said in that 1983 song : Follow my calling when I used to follow ****** blindly.
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: Sccit on November 19, 2012, 01:03:25 PM
You all got it wrong. Eminem wanted to sign Xzibit to his Shady Records in 2003 when X was signed to Columbia Records. Columbia Records heard about that and didn't wanted to let Xzibit, and then Eminem wanted to pay that contract, but Paul told No to Eminem. Paul was mutual manager for both of them, so Paul did shit to X and it's not the other way around. You Infinite or whatever, 1st try to find the truth then say X did something wrong there and he should feel sorry. He was a victim here. Like he said in that 1983 song : Follow my calling when I used to follow ****** blindly.


where did u hear this?
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on November 19, 2012, 04:27:54 PM
You all got it wrong. Eminem wanted to sign Xzibit to his Shady Records in 2003 when X was signed to Columbia Records. Columbia Records heard about that and didn't wanted to let Xzibit, and then Eminem wanted to pay that contract, but Paul told No to Eminem. Paul was mutual manager for both of them, so Paul did shit to X and it's not the other way around. You Infinite or whatever, 1st try to find the truth then say X did something wrong there and he should feel sorry. He was a victim here. Like he said in that 1983 song : Follow my calling when I used to follow ****** blindly.

Thanks for the info.  And I admitted that my shit was just conjecture.  But X had to of done something for Eminem to say "I don't recognize you".  Cause Em was very loyal to X.  And nobody ever said anything about Em wanting to sign X to Shady Records, so maybe it's on you as well to prove your story.  I am trying to find out what really went down.. but just judging from the song it sounded to me that X should of been more polite with Paul considering Paul and Em did so much to help X's career.
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: GangstaBoogy on November 19, 2012, 04:52:23 PM
L
Em pushing X's career to superstardom?

Hell yeah...

Xzibit (if eminem was born) = Game, Ice Cube, Mack 10
Xzibit (if eminem was never born) =  Tash, King Tee, Rass Kass

Look, obviously Xzibit already had two great albums before he started fucking with Eminem.  But, those albums, as good as they were still failed to go gold.  Eminen helped blow up Dres album which in turn lead to Up and Smoke tour and resergence of the west, and Ems work on classic cuts like "Say My Name", "Don't Approach Me", "What's the Diffference", "Bitch Please 2" and so on all helped to not only propel him to platinum superstar but also made for some great music



You don't believe that.
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: ICHI THE KILLER on November 19, 2012, 05:17:52 PM

 I am trying to find out what really went down.. but just judging from the song it sounded to me that X should of been more polite with Paul considering Paul and Em did so much to help X's career.

dude stop repeating that bullshit  ::) ::)its getting boring
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: Blasphemy (A) on November 19, 2012, 08:05:48 PM

 I am trying to find out what really went down.. but just judging from the song it sounded to me that X should of been more polite with Paul considering Paul and Em did so much to help X's career.

dude stop repeating that bullshit  ::) ::)its getting boring
Just like the his White Ancestors he's first to strike and talk shit first before finding out what happened or educate himself before participating. Motherfucker should stick to his Quaran and shut the fuck up for once.
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: O.G A.Geesta'z on November 19, 2012, 10:37:32 PM
yall act as if Infinite knows enough about Hip Hop to say "Em and Paul helped build X's career" and take him serious
lmao
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: LostAngel on November 20, 2012, 12:14:49 AM
You all got it wrong. Eminem wanted to sign Xzibit to his Shady Records in 2003 when X was signed to Columbia Records. Columbia Records heard about that and didn't wanted to let Xzibit, and then Eminem wanted to pay that contract, but Paul told No to Eminem. Paul was mutual manager for both of them, so Paul did shit to X and it's not the other way around. You Infinite or whatever, 1st try to find the truth then say X did something wrong there and he should feel sorry. He was a victim here. Like he said in that 1983 song : Follow my calling when I used to follow ****** blindly.

Thanks for the info.  And I admitted that my shit was just conjecture.  But X had to of done something for Eminem to say "I don't recognize you".  Cause Em was very loyal to X.  And nobody ever said anything about Em wanting to sign X to Shady Records, so maybe it's on you as well to prove your story.  I am trying to find out what really went down.. but just judging from the song it sounded to me that X should of been more polite with Paul considering Paul and Em did so much to help X's career.

http://www.rapnews.net/0-202-256830-00.html
Title: Re: Xzibit diss of Ems manager paul rosenberg on new album...
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on November 20, 2012, 09:40:38 AM
You all got it wrong. Eminem wanted to sign Xzibit to his Shady Records in 2003 when X was signed to Columbia Records. Columbia Records heard about that and didn't wanted to let Xzibit, and then Eminem wanted to pay that contract, but Paul told No to Eminem. Paul was mutual manager for both of them, so Paul did shit to X and it's not the other way around. You Infinite or whatever, 1st try to find the truth then say X did something wrong there and he should feel sorry. He was a victim here. Like he said in that 1983 song : Follow my calling when I used to follow ****** blindly.

Thanks for the info.  And I admitted that my shit was just conjecture.  But X had to of done something for Eminem to say "I don't recognize you".  Cause Em was very loyal to X.  And nobody ever said anything about Em wanting to sign X to Shady Records, so maybe it's on you as well to prove your story.  I am trying to find out what really went down.. but just judging from the song it sounded to me that X should of been more polite with Paul considering Paul and Em did so much to help X's career.

http://www.rapnews.net/0-202-256830-00.html

good work, props