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Title: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 14, 2012, 12:17:49 PM
27 People Dead, Mostly Children, at Connecticut Elementary School Shooting

More than two dozen people, mostly elementary school children, were shot and killed at a Newtown, Conn., elementary school this morning, federal and state sources tell ABC News.
The massacre involved two gunmen and prompted the town of Newtown to lock down all of its schools and draw SWAT teams to the school, authorities said today.
One shooter is dead and a manhunt is on for a second gunman. Police are searching cars. One shooter was described as a 24-year-old armed with four weapons and wearing a bullet vest, sources told ABC News.
It's unclear how many people have been shot, but 27 people, mostly children are dead, multiple federal and state sources tell ABC News. That number could rise, officials said.
President Obama was briefed on the shooting by FBI Director Bob Mueller.
It is the worst shooting in a U.S. elementary school in recent memory and exceeds the carnage at 1999 Coumbine High School shooting in which 13 died and 24 were injured.
The Newtown shooting comes just three days after masked gunman Jacob Roberts opened fire in a busy Oregon, mall killing two before turning the gun on himself.
Today's shooting occurred at the Sandy Hook Elementary School, which includes 450 students in grades from kindergarten through fourth grade. The town is located about 12 miles east of Danbury.
Watch Upcoming State Police News Conference Live at ABCNews.com
State Police received the first 911 call at 9:41a.m. and immediately began sending emergency units from the western part of the state. Initial 911 calls stated that multiple students were trapped in a classroom, possibly with a gunman, according to a Connecticut State Police source.
A photo from the scene shows a line of distressed children being led out of the school.

Three patients have been taken to Danbury Hospital, which is also on lockdown, according to the hospital's Facebook page.
"Out of abundance of caution and not because of any direct threat Danbury Hospital is under lockdown," the statement said. "This allows us simply to focus on the important work at hand."
CLICK HERE for more photos from the scene.
Newtown Public School District secretary of superintendent Kathy June said in a statement that the district's school were locked down because of the report of a shooting. "The district is taking preventive measures by putting all schools in lockdown until we ensure the safety of all students and staff."
State police sent SWAT team units to Newtown.
All public and private schools in the town are on lockdown.
"We have increased our police presence at all Danbury Public Schools due to the events in Newtown. Pray for the victims," Newtown Mayor Boughton tweeted.
State emergency management officials said ambulances and other units were also en route and staging near the school.
A message on the school district website says that all afternoon kindergarten is cancelled today and there will be no mid-day bus runs.

http://gma.yahoo.com/breaking-conn-school-district-locked-down-shooting-report-151955384--abc-news-topstories.html


these recent shooting are getting way out of hand.....shit is unrealistic. cats must be trying hard to pass gun control laws or some shit.


Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 14, 2012, 12:28:58 PM
i used to go to school there until i was 7 and moved to Maine in 3rd grade


fucking tragic...i'm at a loss for words.  it's such a great community too.


my thoughts go out to the families who will be without their kids all because of some selfish asshole who couldn't cope with his own misery.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 14, 2012, 12:36:05 PM
i used to go to school there until i was 7 and moved to Maine in 3rd grade


fucking tragic...i'm at a loss for words.  it's such a great community too.


my thoughts go out to the families who will be without their kids all because of some selfish asshole who couldn't cope with his own misery.


or perhaps because the government is doing everything in its power to instill fear in america so that they can finally take our guns away....either way, sad shit.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 14, 2012, 12:42:05 PM
i think it's too early for conspiracy theories


the gunman killed his own mother before heading to the school


dude clearly was nuts and it's good that he's dead
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 14, 2012, 12:51:13 PM
i think it's too early for conspiracy theories


the gunman killed his own mother before heading to the school


dude clearly was nuts and it's good that he's dead


wasnt there 2 cats? and 1 is still on the loose??


i duno, i think there have been way too many shootings recently in the wake of this "gun control" shit for it to not be a conspiracy. they could say he shot his own mother and what not, but there are countless possibilities. i wouldnt put it past government. in fact, this is their speciality. that said, we'll probably never know.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: The_Ripper on December 14, 2012, 12:51:50 PM
or perhaps because the government is doing everything in its power to instill fear in america so that they can finally take our guns away....either way, sad shit.

are you serious ?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 14, 2012, 01:04:10 PM
or perhaps because the government is doing everything in its power to instill fear in america so that they can finally take our guns away....either way, sad shit.

are you serious ?


yes...naive cats wont believe it's possible, but the government has been pulling stuff like this since it's creation. u gotta be totally brainwashed to put this sorta shit past them. that said, i'm not saying it IS a set-up...but there is definitely a possibility. we only know what we know.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 14, 2012, 03:23:42 PM
who the fuck moved this to TOT where it will go buried?


this is a huge story
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 14, 2012, 03:37:29 PM
these recent shooting are getting way out of hand.....shit is unrealistic. cats must be trying hard to pass gun control laws or some shit.


This is where the problem lies in America Nik, you think stuff out of hand can only happen in an attempt to infringe on your right to bare arms


Guns are the problem, crazy people come second

Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 14, 2012, 03:43:57 PM
for several hours the media had the name of the shooters brother instead of the shooter himself


wtf
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 14, 2012, 03:47:05 PM
for several hours the media had the name of the shooters brother instead of the shooter himself


wtf

Yeah I think they thought (initially) that Ryan Lanza shot his mother and brother in the school
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 14, 2012, 03:58:01 PM
I'm with NIK on this one. Gun regulation lobbyists were at an all time high before today...now you might as well just be prepared to follow whatever laws those people have in place because this is the PERFECT way to sell that point across.

Even as someone claiming conspiracy, I almost have to give in & say fine if it means no more slaughter of little kids.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 14, 2012, 03:58:49 PM
NIK's got a valid point. For all you cats who think the US government is above attacking its own people in order to push its agenda, go google "Operation Northwoods" right quick. Operation Northwoods is not a conspiracy theory. It's a fact.

I'm not saying this particular situation is involving the government. It could just be some weak bitch who was too much of a pussy to just go kill himself and decided to take others with him.

Regardless, my heart goes out to the adults and children who died and to their families who are suffering right now.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 14, 2012, 04:05:48 PM
All of these guys that shoot people are like Tanner or Kim Percy though, deeply depressed anti social youth. You know the M.O. - is it hard to believe these kids exist? Just look at 2Pac/rap forums and you know these people are real.


RIP to those innocents that lost their lives
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 14, 2012, 04:06:48 PM
NIK's got a valid point. For all you cats who think the US government is above attacking its own people in order to push its agenda, go google "Operation Northwoods" right quick. Operation Northwoods is not a conspiracy theory. It's a fact.

I'm not saying this particular situation is involving the government. It could just be some weak bitch who was too much of a pussy to just go kill himself and decided to take others with him.

Regardless, my heart goes out to the adults and children who died and to their families who are suffering right now.

i believe the Colorado shooting was preplanned

but this one here...not so much.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 14, 2012, 07:31:26 PM
speaking of Tan Tan Wilbert, the killer looks a lot like him

http://gma.yahoo.com/connecticut-shooter-adam-lanza-obviously-not-well-182011729--abc-news-topstories.html
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 14, 2012, 09:14:18 PM
who the fuck moved this to TOT where it will go buried?


this is a huge story


i posted this in tot....where it belongs
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 14, 2012, 09:31:42 PM
who the fuck moved this to TOT where it will go buried?


this is a huge story


i posted this in tot....where it belongs

it's a G Spot topic because TOT is only for debates and nerdy conspiracy theories


G Spot can be used for legit news
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 14, 2012, 09:33:35 PM
whenever i tell people i was born and lived in Conneticut and they ask me where i'm gonna have to hear them reply "oh thats where those 20 kids got murked"


fucking scumbag shooter....dude not only killed his own mother but THEN went and wasted a bunch of innocent 5-10 year olds.  can't fucking put that into perspective enough and been over 12 hours.



such a fucked up story and unlike Aurora this one doesn't cry conspiracy
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 14, 2012, 09:35:40 PM
who the fuck moved this to TOT where it will go buried?


this is a huge story


i posted this in tot....where it belongs




it's a G Spot topic because TOT is only for debates and nerdy conspiracy theories


G Spot can be used for legit news


 
i posted it up as a conspiracy theory, because of the fact that there have been so many isolated shooting incidents in the past couple months, all while gun laws are trying to be passed.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 14, 2012, 09:47:23 PM
i hear ya but as a former resident of this town i can tell you this shit aint faked


aurora was REALLY fucked up cuz the guy just randomly gave himself up an his new photos look totally diff from the photos of the guy before he went to jail



Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 14, 2012, 10:09:34 PM
for several hours the media had the name of the shooters brother instead of the shooter himself


wtf

Yeah I think they thought (initially) that Ryan Lanza shot his mother and brother in the school

so apparently his brother Adam was carrying around Ryan's ID with him so when they found his dead corpse they first thoguht it was Ryan



its fucked up to think i still know quite a few families in this area but thankfully none were directly affected
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 14, 2012, 11:22:47 PM
these recent shooting are getting way out of hand.....shit is unrealistic. cats must be trying hard to pass gun control laws or some shit.


This is where the problem lies in America Nik, you think stuff out of hand can only happen in an attempt to infringe on your right to bare arms


Guns are the problem, crazy people come second




lol, duno if bein sarcastic.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: The_Ripper on December 15, 2012, 12:02:59 AM
It is simply not plausible to understand events in Connecticut this Friday without having a conversation about guns in a country where more than 84 people a day are killed with guns, and more than twice that number are injured with them.

Amid all the column inches and airtime now being devoted to these horrific slayings, though, that elephant in the room will remain affectionately patted, discreetly fed and politely indulged. To claim that "this is not the time" ignores the reality that America has found itself incapable of finding any appropriate time to have this urgent conversation. The victims in Newtown, Connecticut deserve at least that. And these tragedies take place everyday, albeit on a smaller scale.



THIS

Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: The_Ripper on December 15, 2012, 12:09:31 AM
the government is doing everything in its power to instill fear in america so that they can finally take our guns away....either way, sad shit.


"In response to the Aurora shootings in July, President Obama was right to suspend the routine campaign rhetoric and play the statesman. Nobody wanted to hear about Mitt Romney's tax records and stimulating the economy on that day. There were other days for electioneering, true, but he was wrong to insist on this:

"There are going to be other days for politics. This is a day for prayer and reflection."

Yet that "other day" for debating gun laws never came – not at any point in the three months that remained before the election. Even now, right on cue, the president's spokesman, Jay Carney, has intoned the familiar strain that "now is not the time" to talk about gun control.


YES. They are really doing everything to take the guns way... ::)
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: MistaNova on December 15, 2012, 01:56:40 AM
Conspiracy theories aside, this is a real tragedy. My condolences to all the families involved.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: doggfather on December 15, 2012, 02:02:37 AM
Conspiracy theories aside, this is a real tragedy. My condolences to all the families involved.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 15, 2012, 02:48:06 AM
No disrespect to Nik, but only an idiot would start claiming conspiracy in the immediate aftermath of something like this (no Dr. Dre)
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Russell Bell on December 15, 2012, 04:37:04 AM
The problem isnt guns.  We have many rules and regulations when it comes to guns.  Who can buy, when, where, how, everything.  Majority who own guns legally own them responsibly.  Areas with the most gun crime are areas with the most restrictive gun laws (less people legally owning), thats a fact. 

We have a culture where about 60 percent of the population thinks its ok to own guns while the other 40 are probably against.  You arent going to be able to just take guns out of a society with free choice and guaranteed rights; and more restrictive laws arent going to prohibit law breakers from getting the guns they want.

If you wanna look at causes of why this stuff happens, lets look at the real root causes, not the easy to point out ones.  The healthcare system (mental health especially), family support/structure, the economy in general (no jobs equal people doing what they have to do to survive).
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 15, 2012, 05:16:44 AM
The problem isnt guns.  We have many rules and regulations when it comes to guns.  Who can buy, when, where, how, everything.  Majority who own guns legally own them responsibly.  Areas with the most gun crime are areas with the most restrictive gun laws (less people legally owning), thats a fact. 

We have a culture where about 60 percent of the population thinks its ok to own guns while the other 40 are probably against.  You arent going to be able to just take guns out of a society with free choice and guaranteed rights; and more restrictive laws arent going to prohibit law breakers from getting the guns they want.

If you wanna look at causes of why this stuff happens, lets look at the real root causes, not the easy to point out ones.  The healthcare system (mental health especially), family support/structure, the economy in general (no jobs equal people doing what they have to do to survive).

Yeah there are lots of factors, but this is Americas problem. Nearly all these massacres happen in America (I'm talking out of Western 'civilised' world)

But the problems in your list could be about nearly any country. No hate!
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: virtuoso on December 15, 2012, 05:36:38 AM
Watch the mindless sheep become moved by Obama's tears. Nick is not an idiot when there have been so many incidents in the past which did not add up. However regardless this will be used as fresh leverage. Does a car kill people or does the selfish crazed motorist? Does the kniFe kill people? Petrol?


wanted to find out why mybe you
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 15, 2012, 06:01:31 AM
Watch the mindless sheep become moved by Obama's tears. Nick is not an idiot when there have been so many incidents in the past which did not add up. However regardless this will be used as fresh leverage. Does a car kill people or does the selfish crazed motorist? Does the kniFe kill people? Petrol?


wanted to find out why mybe you

Idiots crashing cars or drivers running people down while texting happens. People running people over on purpose of course happens but it's not 'trending' now is it?

People get mugged and stabbed in accidents. Dudes with Samurai swords going on killing sprees happen, but 'every now and again'. Like arson happens 'every now and again'


Gun massacres happen all the damn time in America. Copycat stuff too. Shits out of hand its undeniable.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: virtuoso on December 15, 2012, 07:21:35 AM

Perhaps you should give more of a shit about the congress unanimously voting to allow for the indefinite detention of any american who they deem to be a "terrorist". no judge, no jury, no presentable evidence
Disarming potential victims, is just going to leave the weapons in the hands of criminals and those who would seek to do harm leaving people totally at the mercy of such scum bags.
Perhaps you should realise who the bigger enemy is, the crazed individual's (assuming they were crazed) or the systematic disarmament in the face of a system which is becoming less democratic, less free, less justified and more pernicious.

Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: The_Ripper on December 15, 2012, 07:35:33 AM
The problem isnt guns.  We have many rules and regulations when it comes to guns.  Who can buy, when, where, how, everything.  Majority who own guns legally own them responsibly.  Areas with the most gun crime are areas with the most restrictive gun laws (less people legally owning), thats a fact. 

We have a culture where about 60 percent of the population thinks its ok to own guns while the other 40 are probably against.  You arent going to be able to just take guns out of a society with free choice and guaranteed rights; and more restrictive laws arent going to prohibit law breakers from getting the guns they want.

If you wanna look at causes of why this stuff happens, lets look at the real root causes, not the easy to point out ones.  The healthcare system (mental health especially), family support/structure, the economy in general (no jobs equal people doing what they have to do to survive).

AMERICANS.... ::)
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: The_Ripper on December 15, 2012, 07:37:20 AM
Watch the mindless sheep become moved by Obama's tears. Nick is not an idiot when there have been so many incidents in the past which did not add up. However regardless this will be used as fresh leverage. Does a car kill people or does the selfish crazed motorist? Does the kniFe kill people? Petrol?


wanted to find out why mybe you

you can't be serious
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: virtuoso on December 15, 2012, 07:42:30 AM

If someone is intent on killing, they will, they will acquire a gun from an illegal source, if they can't do it legally, there have been incidents in the passed where a car has been packed full of petrol and used as a weapon, petrol bomb is another easy way of killing people.
The question is, ....are you serious? if the media had not made this a talking point, then you wouldn't even be discussing this.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: tempo2 on December 15, 2012, 08:10:11 AM
so nobody heard about the incident at the school in china the other day? mmmm the reason you aint heard it is because the media did not feed it to you allowing them to push the agenda. anyways 22 people were stabbed in a school (not guns! knives! you know the shit you can get out of a kitchen draw everywhere). So read into this what you will but the facts are facts, it dont mean shit what the weapon is, crazy is crazy just depends on the tool that is used. No ammount of control or laws would of prevented this happening in the chinease school, oh wait there is a way, maybe we could all start eating with plastic cutellry?

anyways to get back to the point in hand, I agree with a point made earlier with regards to the root cause. What most news agencies dont mention is that most of these gunmen (90% i believe in the last ten years) are on some form of prescribed medication for various mental health issues. This is an area that also needs to be looked at as well as other obvious areas also mentioned in this thread.

I am actually from england which has one of the strictest gun laws on the world so i appreciate i dont see it first hand like you guys do but even though the gun laws are very strict here these tragedies still happens here too. Its a very sensitve subject for americans which I can appreciate as I see it from both sides of the line, yes these events cannot continue to occur but I believe everyone should have the right to self defence. I know if I was in a sticky situation on a walk home one night and I was attacked by a crazed lunatic, ask yourself if you would rather it be him then me?

I think the most poignent thing in these cases is always the innocent people especially children. These children had christmas to look forward too instead the presents will remain unopened and familys lives changed for ever....   
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: The_Ripper on December 15, 2012, 08:11:31 AM

If someone is intent on killing, they will, they will acquire a gun from an illegal source, if they can't do it legally, there have been incidents in the passed where a car has been packed full of petrol and used as a weapon, petrol bomb is another easy way of killing people.
The question is, ....are you serious? if the media had not made this a talking point, then you wouldn't even be discussing this.

Are you kidding me ? I'm old enough to make my conclusions without being brainwashed by the media, i couldn't care less about what they have to say about this,
if you need the media to talk about something like this is not the same for me. There are people mentally ill all over the world, but most of these shootings happens in the united states and in places like norway or finland, not in england spain or somewhere else.....guess why ?
(http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/National+Rifle+Association+Holds+Annual+Meeting+S_23NWFiKP7l.jpg)
(http://www.montrealgazette.com/business/7012469.bin?size=620x400s)

There isn't a "gun problem" in America. OK.  ::)
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 15, 2012, 09:41:23 AM
Norway has huge gun control and they had that mass shooting a few years ago


its about psycho control, not gun control
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: BabyBird on December 15, 2012, 11:46:40 AM
this is similar to the hindu that got beat up/died with a baseball bat in the restroom at the local park in Fleetwood. Similar i said

anywhoo shooters name ADAM LANZA
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 15, 2012, 12:21:46 PM
It is simply not plausible to understand events in Connecticut this Friday without having a conversation about guns in a country where more than 84 people a day are killed with guns, and more than twice that number are injured with them.

Amid all the column inches and airtime now being devoted to these horrific slayings, though, that elephant in the room will remain affectionately patted, discreetly fed and politely indulged. To claim that "this is not the time" ignores the reality that America has found itself incapable of finding any appropriate time to have this urgent conversation. The victims in Newtown, Connecticut deserve at least that. And these tragedies take place everyday, albeit on a smaller scale.



THIS




so only government and law enforcement should have guns?


lmao....they got u good.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 15, 2012, 12:22:26 PM
the government is doing everything in its power to instill fear in america so that they can finally take our guns away....either way, sad shit.


"In response to the Aurora shootings in July, President Obama was right to suspend the routine campaign rhetoric and play the statesman. Nobody wanted to hear about Mitt Romney's tax records and stimulating the economy on that day. There were other days for electioneering, true, but he was wrong to insist on this:

"There are going to be other days for politics. This is a day for prayer and reflection."

Yet that "other day" for debating gun laws never came – not at any point in the three months that remained before the election. Even now, right on cue, the president's spokesman, Jay Carney, has intoned the familiar strain that "now is not the time" to talk about gun control.


YES. They are really doing everything to take the guns way... ::)


smh, lmao
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 15, 2012, 12:23:15 PM
No disrespect to Nik, but only an idiot would start claiming conspiracy in the immediate aftermath of something like this (no Dr. Dre)

only and idiot would ignore the facts and act like the government isn't known for shit like this...yes offense to u
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 15, 2012, 12:31:57 PM
Norway doesn't ring a bell anyone?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 15, 2012, 12:34:05 PM
Norway doesn't ring a bell anyone?

Norway has huge gun control and they had that mass shooting a few years ago


its about psycho control, not gun control
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 15, 2012, 01:03:32 PM

Perhaps you should give more of a shit about the congress unanimously voting to allow for the indefinite detention of any american who they deem to be a "terrorist". no judge, no jury, no presentable evidence
Disarming potential victims, is just going to leave the weapons in the hands of criminals and those who would seek to do harm leaving people totally at the mercy of such scum bags.
Perhaps you should realise who the bigger enemy is, the crazed individual's (assuming they were crazed) or the systematic disarmament in the face of a system which is becoming less democratic, less free, less justified and more pernicious.




No bruh, I care more about 20 5-10 year olds slaughtered by a psychopathic, Autistic teenager who was able to buy 3 high powered guns over the counter with ease.

And I'll tell you why..


Laws are in place to try to prevent stuff like this. If this guy was found ranting about killing people online, or to a friend, or writing letters foretelling his rampage...and he got locked up before he could do it (like a dangerous crazy person should) then those local parents could sleep better at night.

Real talk.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 15, 2012, 01:11:23 PM

Perhaps you should give more of a shit about the congress unanimously voting to allow for the indefinite detention of any american who they deem to be a "terrorist". no judge, no jury, no presentable evidence
Disarming potential victims, is just going to leave the weapons in the hands of criminals and those who would seek to do harm leaving people totally at the mercy of such scum bags.
Perhaps you should realise who the bigger enemy is, the crazed individual's (assuming they were crazed) or the systematic disarmament in the face of a system which is becoming less democratic, less free, less justified and more pernicious.







No bruh, I care more about 20 5-10 year olds slaughtered by a psychopathic, Autistic teenager who was able to buy 3 high powered guns over the counter with ease.

And I'll tell you why..


Laws are in place to try to prevent stuff like this. If this guy was found ranting about killing people online, or to a friend, or writing letters foretelling his rampage...and he got locked up before he could do it (like a dangerous crazy person should) then those local parents could sleep better at night.

Real talk.



wtf? he didnt even buy the guns, he stole them from his parents....u have to REGISTER to own a gun, u cant just go into a store and buy one...anyways, u comin off as very ignorant on the matter, so i'd suggest u take a step back and re-assess your thoughts.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 15, 2012, 01:15:32 PM

Perhaps you should give more of a shit about the congress unanimously voting to allow for the indefinite detention of any american who they deem to be a "terrorist". no judge, no jury, no presentable evidence
Disarming potential victims, is just going to leave the weapons in the hands of criminals and those who would seek to do harm leaving people totally at the mercy of such scum bags.
Perhaps you should realise who the bigger enemy is, the crazed individual's (assuming they were crazed) or the systematic disarmament in the face of a system which is becoming less democratic, less free, less justified and more pernicious.







No bruh, I care more about 20 5-10 year olds slaughtered by a psychopathic, Autistic teenager who was able to buy 3 high powered guns over the counter with ease.

And I'll tell you why..


Laws are in place to try to prevent stuff like this. If this guy was found ranting about killing people online, or to a friend, or writing letters foretelling his rampage...and he got locked up before he could do it (like a dangerous crazy person should) then those local parents could sleep better at night.

Real talk.



wtf? he didnt even buy the guns, he stole them from his parents....u have to REGISTER to own a gun, u cant just go into a store and buy one...anyways, u comin off as very ignorant on the matter, so i'd suggest u take a step back and re-assess your thoughts.


No bro, don't jump to conclusions. I read the guns were assumed to be his own, obviously the reports have changed (like they confused the 2 brothers). Also Ryan said hadn't seen his bro in 2 years, and he wasn't living with the family.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 15, 2012, 02:04:48 PM
No disrespect to Nik, but only an idiot would start claiming conspiracy in the immediate aftermath of something like this (no Dr. Dre)

You're the idiot. The denial and brainwash in you is strong. Please stick your head back in the sand and let us discuss this without your naive sheepish comments every few posts.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 15, 2012, 02:11:03 PM
On thursday, 22 students were stabbed by a "psycho" at a school in China. So please shut the fuck up about banning guns. There's a lot of fat fucks out there, let's ban spoons. Just because you're in a dumb ass euro country who let their govt take away your guns doesn't mean the US should.

In regards to NIKs post, I think he has a very legit point.

I'd encourage everyone to research MK Ultra. CIA has been doing it since the 50's.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 15, 2012, 02:16:24 PM
On thursday, 22 students were stabbed by a "psycho" at a school in China. So please shut the fuck up about banning guns. There's a lot of fat fucks out there, let's ban spoons. Just because you're in a dumb ass euro country who let their govt take away your guns doesn't mean the US should.

In regards to NIKs post, I think he has a very legit point.

I'd encourage everyone to research MK Ultra. CIA has been doing it since the 50's.
Real talk. Let's ban sex too because sometimes people get raped.

Again, MK Ultra is a fact, not a conspiracy theory. Some of you need to pop that bubble of false comfort that makes you think your government is looking out for your best interest.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 15, 2012, 02:31:51 PM
On thursday, 22 students were stabbed by a "psycho" at a school in China. So please shut the fuck up about banning guns. There's a lot of fat fucks out there, let's ban spoons. Just because you're in a dumb ass euro country who let their govt take away your guns doesn't mean the US should.

In regards to NIKs post, I think he has a very legit point.

I'd encourage everyone to research MK Ultra. CIA has been doing it since the 50's.
Real talk. Let's ban sex too because sometimes people get raped.

Again, MK Ultra is a fact, not a conspiracy theory. Some of you need to pop that bubble of false comfort that makes you think your government is looking out for your best interest.


So how are the government turning these otherwise normal people into mass killers


Ps don't answer that
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: eurowigger on December 15, 2012, 02:34:35 PM
It doesn't even have to be masterminded by the government to be a conspiracy. In fact you don't need any kind of mastermind at all. Say some gangster is running an "anti-gun organization" to get money from soccer moms to fund his cocaine habit. Hook up some weak minds with guns and drugs and maybe even psych them. Chances are one or two of them will pull something like this off. Soccer mom wallets start opening wide...

Then again many weak minds are attracted to guns and drugs all by themselves.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 15, 2012, 02:34:43 PM
On thursday, 22 students were stabbed by a "psycho" at a school in China. So please shut the fuck up about banning guns. There's a lot of fat fucks out there, let's ban spoons. Just because you're in a dumb ass euro country who let their govt take away your guns doesn't mean the US should.

In regards to NIKs post, I think he has a very legit point.

I'd encourage everyone to research MK Ultra. CIA has been doing it since the 50's.
Real talk. Let's ban sex too because sometimes people get raped.

Again, MK Ultra is a fact, not a conspiracy theory. Some of you need to pop that bubble of false comfort that makes you think your government is looking out for your best interest.


So how are the government turning these otherwise normal people into mass killers


Ps don't answer that



lol....this is too much
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 15, 2012, 02:50:13 PM
On thursday, 22 students were stabbed by a "psycho" at a school in China. So please shut the fuck up about banning guns. There's a lot of fat fucks out there, let's ban spoons. Just because you're in a dumb ass euro country who let their govt take away your guns doesn't mean the US should.

In regards to NIKs post, I think he has a very legit point.

I'd encourage everyone to research MK Ultra. CIA has been doing it since the 50's.
Real talk. Let's ban sex too because sometimes people get raped.

Again, MK Ultra is a fact, not a conspiracy theory. Some of you need to pop that bubble of false comfort that makes you think your government is looking out for your best interest.


So how are the government turning these otherwise normal people into mass killers


Ps don't answer that
Google is your friend.

And again, I'm not saying the government is involved in this particular case. However, they have been interested in manipulating people to do their bidding as well as interest in creating false flag events in the past. These facts are unavoidable.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 15, 2012, 03:04:56 PM
On thursday, 22 students were stabbed by a "psycho" at a school in China. So please shut the fuck up about banning guns. There's a lot of fat fucks out there, let's ban spoons. Just because you're in a dumb ass euro country who let their govt take away your guns doesn't mean the US should.

In regards to NIKs post, I think he has a very legit point.

I'd encourage everyone to research MK Ultra. CIA has been doing it since the 50's.
Real talk. Let's ban sex too because sometimes people get raped.

Again, MK Ultra is a fact, not a conspiracy theory. Some of you need to pop that bubble of false comfort that makes you think your government is looking out for your best interest.


So how are the government turning these otherwise normal people into mass killers


Ps don't answer that

Research Mk ultra you dense fucking twat :stupid:
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Nutty on December 15, 2012, 04:58:24 PM
Crazy.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: BabyBird on December 15, 2012, 06:20:25 PM
too bad the guy was 50

and too bad the children had to die a bad death
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 15, 2012, 06:26:14 PM
too bad the guy was 50

and too bad the children had to die a bad death

50? he was 20


and yes, it is VERY sad those children died in such a sad fashion...the coroner says each kid was shot multiple times


i honestly remember all my teachers names at Sandy Hook and i HOPE i don't see them on the list :(
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: DJ SUGAFREE QUIK on December 15, 2012, 10:48:47 PM
NIK's got a valid point. For all you cats who think the US government is above attacking its own people in order to push its agenda, go google "Operation Northwoods" right quick. Operation Northwoods is not a conspiracy theory. It's a fact.

I'm not saying this particular situation is involving the government. It could just be some weak bitch who was too much of a pussy to just go kill himself and decided to take others with him.

Regardless, my heart goes out to the adults and children who died and to their families who are suffering right now.

i believe the Colorado shooting was preplanned

but this one here...not so much.
I doubt it also.  I checked up on wikipedia to make sure about this one school shooting I remembered.  A loser who threatened to shoot kids at a school in stockton in 1989.  Kiling 5 kids, & wounding 29 & a teacher.  No surprise fool took his own life. 
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: The Overfiend on December 16, 2012, 12:20:25 AM
There are so many unstable people out there these days it seems like the norm to have fucking mental problems. Nearly 1 out of 3 people I know have depression.

Thank god I live in Australia. The Federal Government got rid of gun ownership after the 1996 Port Arthur massacre, so thankfully the vast majority of idiots can't get access to guns at all. Only took one massacre.



I don't think Colorado was an 'inside job' by the USG. Neither was this massacre. There are so many pathetic depressed idiots out there the govt doesn't need to.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: KrazySumwhat on December 16, 2012, 01:15:00 AM
 ^ i was actually going to mention the Port Arthur incident. Alot of people believe that was all planned/set up. Australians are pretty much completely disarmed since that.
 Was a similar argument. Now only the police and the criminals are armed pretty much.
 Anyhow, as insensitive as this may sound, iam kind of surprised this sort of thing dosent happen MORE often in the US. With the population, the amount of weapons, and when you consider how many people are fucked in the head mentally or drug fucked or etc.
 But killing little kids, little children at school, that is unimaginable. Its not really a case of bullied kid getting revenge its just unimaginable.
 Theres killing innocents and then theres killing the absolute innocent. What a fucking cowardly act.
 
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 16, 2012, 05:48:13 AM
On thursday, 22 students were stabbed by a "psycho" at a school in China. So please shut the fuck up about banning guns. There's a lot of fat fucks out there, let's ban spoons. Just because you're in a dumb ass euro country who let their govt take away your guns doesn't mean the US should.

In regards to NIKs post, I think he has a very legit point.

I'd encourage everyone to research MK Ultra. CIA has been doing it since the 50's.
Real talk. Let's ban sex too because sometimes people get raped.

Again, MK Ultra is a fact, not a conspiracy theory. Some of you need to pop that bubble of false comfort that makes you think your government is looking out for your best interest.


So how are the government turning these otherwise normal people into mass killers


Ps don't answer that

Research Mk ultra you dense fucking twat :stupid:

And why is a change in the law, in the wake of ANOTHER massacre a bad thing?

Ps don't answer that
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 16, 2012, 07:07:36 AM
There are so many unstable people out there these days it seems like the norm to have fucking mental problems. Nearly 1 out of 3 people I know have depression.

Thank god I live in Australia. The Federal Government got rid of gun ownership after the 1996 Port Arthur massacre, so thankfully the vast majority of idiots can't get access to guns at all. Only took one massacre.



I don't think Colorado was an 'inside job' by the USG. Neither was this massacre. There are so many pathetic depressed idiots out there the govt doesn't need to.

Hegelian Dialectic...problem-reaction-solution.  They create these situations, and then introduce legislation as the cure.  These people that commit these atrocious acts are drugged and mind-controlled.  Information is readily available if you spend 15 minutes to look for it yourself.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 16, 2012, 07:10:59 AM
On thursday, 22 students were stabbed by a "psycho" at a school in China. So please shut the fuck up about banning guns. There's a lot of fat fucks out there, let's ban spoons. Just because you're in a dumb ass euro country who let their govt take away your guns doesn't mean the US should.

In regards to NIKs post, I think he has a very legit point.

I'd encourage everyone to research MK Ultra. CIA has been doing it since the 50's.
Real talk. Let's ban sex too because sometimes people get raped.

Again, MK Ultra is a fact, not a conspiracy theory. Some of you need to pop that bubble of false comfort that makes you think your government is looking out for your best interest.


So how are the government turning these otherwise normal people into mass killers


Ps don't answer that

Research Mk ultra you dense fucking twat :stupid:

And why is a change in the law, in the wake of ANOTHER massacre a bad thing?

Ps don't answer that

You still haven't looked up what I told you earlier.  I guess you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

Yeah more laws are the answer.  Last time I checked, murder is illegal and that's why there are no more murders in the world.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: PLANT on December 16, 2012, 07:59:31 AM
The estimate over 350 million guns are owned within the boarders of the USA.  350 fucking million guns!  87 people are killed every day from handguns in the USA.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 16, 2012, 08:19:12 AM
The estimate over 350 million guns are owned within the boarders of the USA.  350 fucking million guns!  87 people are killed every day from handguns in the USA.

Well this dudes mother apparently had a home arsenal. You know, because that's really important.

Maybe she had a couple grenades under the bed, and some land mines in the back yard too.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 16, 2012, 08:47:07 AM
I literally know 100's of gun owners.  Not a single one has ever shot anything other than an animal (that they eat) or clay pigeon.

Canadians, Australians, Euros are extremely brainwashed against guns.  Most cops in China don't carry guns, but I show how 22 people are stabbed and yall completely ignore that.  What's your response on that?

The 2nd Amendment which is the right to bear arms was put into place to protect the average person against a tyrannical government.  Yall are watching too much tv. 
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 16, 2012, 08:48:34 AM
If someone was armed at the school, this dude wouldn't have got as far as he did. 
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 16, 2012, 08:57:09 AM
The 2nd Amendment which is the right to bear arms was put into place to protect the average person against a tyrannical government.

No it wasn't.




And you know 100's of gun owners? I literally know 3 people at the most, and 2 of them work in pest control or farming.


The issue isn't a almost 1 off attack in China. It's the constant occurrence of these gun related massacres in America.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 16, 2012, 09:10:15 AM
The 2nd Amendment which is the right to bear arms was put into place to protect the average person against a tyrannical government.

No it wasn't.




And you know 100's of gun owners? I literally know 3 people at the most, and 2 of them work in pest control or farming.


The issue isn't a almost 1 off attack in China. It's the constant occurrence of these gun related massacres in America.

haha have you ever left your neighborhood?  This little euro thinks because he knows 2 gun owners that everybody does.  Look at Plant's post - There are at least like 400 million guns in the US homeboy.  You know how many people are in the US? Last time I checked, and not googling, there's between 350-400 million people in the US.  That's 1 per person, maybe more.  We aren't some overly feministic faggots over here, we actually hunt and fish and behave like non-castrated males.  I know you can't fathom this, but its reality. 

What about Norway?  Anders Brevik ring a bell to you?  Norway has such strict gun laws, how did this happen?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: MistaNova on December 16, 2012, 09:22:45 AM
The issue isn't a almost 1 off attack in China. It's the constant occurrence of these gun related massacres in America.

You do know that gun related massacres happen everywhere right?
The media just scares people into thinking that the guns are the problem, when it's really the people who use them. A gun doesn't go off on it's own, it needs a human to pull the trigger. And in this age where almost everybody seems to suffer from deep depression, the number of humans pulling those triggers are growing.
A law saying that people can't use guns won't do shit about that. It'll just increase the amount of people being murdered by knives, shovels etc... until they get banned too.

The real issue is that all of this scaring the public into giving up their right to bear arms scheme is being executed by the government who've been manipulating the masses into giving up their rights for years.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: virtuoso on December 16, 2012, 09:42:34 AM
 A one off attack in China?

Updated 3/23/2010 1:41 PM | Comment
BEIJING (AP) — A former doctor armed with a large knife rampaged outside an elementary school in eastern China, stabbing eight young children to death and wounding five others Tuesday, a local official and state news agency said.
The early morning attack happened as students were arriving for school. Zheng Minsheng, 41, had mingled with parents at the school gates then suddenly pulled out his knife and began slashing children, Xinhua News Agency said.

In the aftermath of the attack at the Nanping City Experimental Elementary School in Fujian province, doctors treated small children and bodies lay covered in bloody sheets. Police officers manned a cordon around the school. Some comforted distraught parents.

China has witnessed a series of school attacks in recent years, mostly blamed on people with personal grudges or mental illnesses, leading to calls for improved security.

BEIJING — An unemployed man entered a kindergarten in Jiangsu Province in eastern China on Thursday morning and stabbed 28 kindergarten students and three adults, critically wounding at least five children, local authorities and state news agencies reported.
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China Daily
Local residents at the entrance of a kindergarten in Taixing, Jiangsu, where a knife attack occurred Thursday.
It was the second mass stabbing of students in two days, and the third in less than a month.


Saturday, 22 September, 2012, 12:00am
At least three children were killed and 13 injured when a man armed with a machete rushed into a private day care centre in Pingnan county, Guangxi , yesterday and hacked 16 primary school pupils who were having lunch.

Police said the attack happened at about 2pm, when the 16 pupils from the nearby Guanying primary school were finishing their lunch break at the day care centre and preparing to go back to class.

They said the man broke into the day care centre and hacked 16 children with the heavy duty knife. At least three children were confirmed dead at hospital.

Xinhua said the 13 who were injured had been sent to Pingnan County People's Hospital for treatment. Police arrested the suspect at the scene.

Photos released by mainland media showed that most pupils suffered head wounds, with blood soaking through their clothes.

People will ignore any variables which contradict their opinion, now that is the epitome of being mind controlled.

Did you cry when that sociopath Obama feigned crying? or did you actually believe he was crying because after all he was, the media said so too.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 16, 2012, 10:22:29 AM
So these massacres are

A) done by the government making people crazy for their own ends? LMFAO

B) done by crazy people and a responsible government needs to step in and do something about it


Why can't you as a seemingly intelligent people work out that this is a distinctly American method of venting anger (towards almost always random innocent people) and it's carried out time and time again by your own people.

Ask yourself why it's happening on your own doorstep, and the rest of the civilised world isn't doing it.

Elsewhere I wouldn't be surprised if I heard a chronically depressed person hanged themselves. In America only I'm not surprised to hear about the same kind of person committing a high school gun massacre.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 16, 2012, 10:27:28 AM
A one off attack in China?

Updated 3/23/2010 1:41 PM | Comment
BEIJING (AP) — A former doctor armed with a large knife rampaged outside an elementary school in eastern China, stabbing eight young children to death and wounding five others Tuesday, a local official and state news agency said.
The early morning attack happened as students were arriving for school. Zheng Minsheng, 41, had mingled with parents at the school gates then suddenly pulled out his knife and began slashing children, Xinhua News Agency said.

In the aftermath of the attack at the Nanping City Experimental Elementary School in Fujian province, doctors treated small children and bodies lay covered in bloody sheets. Police officers manned a cordon around the school. Some comforted distraught parents.

China has witnessed a series of school attacks in recent years, mostly blamed on people with personal grudges or mental illnesses, leading to calls for improved security.

BEIJING — An unemployed man entered a kindergarten in Jiangsu Province in eastern China on Thursday morning and stabbed 28 kindergarten students and three adults, critically wounding at least five children, local authorities and state news agencies reported.
Enlarge This Image

China Daily
Local residents at the entrance of a kindergarten in Taixing, Jiangsu, where a knife attack occurred Thursday.
It was the second mass stabbing of students in two days, and the third in less than a month.


Saturday, 22 September, 2012, 12:00am
At least three children were killed and 13 injured when a man armed with a machete rushed into a private day care centre in Pingnan county, Guangxi , yesterday and hacked 16 primary school pupils who were having lunch.

Police said the attack happened at about 2pm, when the 16 pupils from the nearby Guanying primary school were finishing their lunch break at the day care centre and preparing to go back to class.

They said the man broke into the day care centre and hacked 16 children with the heavy duty knife. At least three children were confirmed dead at hospital.

Xinhua said the 13 who were injured had been sent to Pingnan County People's Hospital for treatment. Police arrested the suspect at the scene.

Photos released by mainland media showed that most pupils suffered head wounds, with blood soaking through their clothes.

People will ignore any variables which contradict their opinion, now that is the epitome of being mind controlled.

Did you cry when that sociopath Obama feigned crying? or did you actually believe he was crying because after all he was, the media said so too.


Hmmmm so you've recognised China has a problem then? Well done. So China has a problem with a specific kind of crime. A knife massacre ok.


So hmmmm (again) now, you see no pattern in America? No specific problem? No connection between gun massacres? THEY'RE all unrelated and not a problem of Americans killing their own people such as very young children with guns, but China has a problem?

Ps don't answer that
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: blcxm on December 16, 2012, 10:29:27 AM
lol @ americans. Im glad this did not happen in a civilized country.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: PLANT on December 16, 2012, 10:29:38 AM
I literally know 100's of gun owners.  Not a single one has ever shot anything other than an animal (that they eat) or clay pigeon.

Canadians, Australians, Euros are extremely brainwashed against guns.  Most cops in China don't carry guns, but I show how 22 people are stabbed and yall completely ignore that.  What's your response on that?

22 people were stabbed, not shot.  Those 22 people survived, there were no deaths.  

I am not brainwashed.  In Canada, you can feel safe at the movies, or going to school.  I can go anywhere in the country and feel safe knowing its illegal to carry a gun.  In Canada, you need to have a permit just to have a gun in the trunk of your car to go hunting.  
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: virtuoso on December 16, 2012, 10:45:13 AM
It seems inherent in some people that they can't compute what is being conveyed. I have detailed to you several massacres and not a one off in which kids and other innocents have been the unfortunate victims of crazed people, now these people did not have access to guns so instead they utilise another weapon against those who are unable to defend themselves in particular little kids. This therefore pours scorn all over this notion that guns are the cause of these horrible incidents. If there were security guards with guns, or at least a teacher who is entrusted with a gun, then these crazed people would have been taken out.

Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 16, 2012, 11:17:21 AM
now these people did not have access to guns so instead they utilise another weapon against those who are unable to defend themselves in particular little kids`

Exactly. See you do get it.


A country with more guns than people = all of the wrong people have free access to guns, or probably own them already.


I best get some popcorn ready for then next massacre (if I still have time to get to the store) it's gonna be soon!

#gunswag
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: MistaNova on December 16, 2012, 11:23:40 AM
I am not brainwashed.  In Canada, you can feel safe at the movies, or going to school.  I can go anywhere in the country and feel safe knowing its illegal to carry a gun.  In Canada, you need to have a permit just to have a gun in the trunk of your car to go hunting.  

I live in Japan, where guns are banned to everyone who's not a cop. Yet there have been numerous massacres here where people have used cars and knives to murder many innocent lives. Here anyone can feel safe that they're not going to die because of a gunshot, however the fear of being killed or severely injured via a knife or gas bomb or someother object just takes it's place/becomes bigger.
In the end it's not the guns, it's the people wielding the guns. Even if some things don't kill people as fast as a gun would, in no way does the risk of harm coming your way become significantly lower just because the laws get stricter. You have to do something about the maniacs who plot and do these horrific deeds first.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: virtuoso on December 16, 2012, 11:24:57 AM

Which part about them utilising other weapons to kill don't you get?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: virtuoso on December 16, 2012, 11:31:54 AM
I am not brainwashed.  In Canada, you can feel safe at the movies, or going to school.  I can go anywhere in the country and feel safe knowing its illegal to carry a gun.  In Canada, you need to have a permit just to have a gun in the trunk of your car to go hunting.  

I live in Japan, where guns are banned to everyone who's not a cop. Yet there have been numerous massacres here where people have used cars and knives to murder many innocent lives. Here anyone can feel safe that they're not going to die because of a gunshot, however the fear of being killed or severely injured via a knife or gas bomb or someother object just takes it's place/becomes bigger.
In the end it's not the guns, it's the people wielding the guns. Even if some things don't kill people as fast as a gun would, in no way does the risk of harm coming your way become significantly lower just because the laws get stricter. You have to do something about the maniacs who plot and do these horrific deeds first.

Precisely, but without guns you have no real way to defend yourself and in a country like America where there are so many guns criminal elements will have total advantage over the defenceless. America is falling into the abyss, the police won't save you, the only person that can save you, is you. In a country which is violating all rights, of course they would go after the guns.

By the way i live in England, and as a result of the massacre which occurred in Dunblane a similar sweeping ban on guns was imposed. That hasn't stopped guns from being freely available to gangs though and furthermore, the very massacre itself stinks of something far more heinous than one crazed individual. We know that it is particularly sinister because it was declared that the documents should be sealed for 100 years. Now what do you suppose is contained within those documents? we can only speculate, but it's reasonable to assume that the information contained within displays a much bigger conspiracy than one man.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: eurowigger on December 16, 2012, 11:40:07 AM

Which part about them utilising other weapons to kill don't you get?


The point isn't whether or not other weapons can kill but that firearms can be used by anyone (no skill or strength required) to kill a huge amount of people in a very short time. It's still not a good enough reason to take them away form people though IMO. In fact I feel that everyone should be REQUIRED to carry a weapon instead of just being allowed to. Would make people think twice about how they behave if they know they might get shot.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 16, 2012, 11:40:15 AM

Which part about them utilising other weapons to kill don't you get?


Yes the China dude had a knife (lets say because he couldn't get a gun)

I'll quote Lazy "22 injured in that knife attack, but 22 lived"



You were expecting a 5 year old shot in the head to pull through?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 16, 2012, 11:41:21 AM
The 2nd Amendment which is the right to bear arms was put into place to protect the average person against a tyrannical government.

No it wasn't.




And you know 100's of gun owners? I literally know 3 people at the most, and 2 of them work in pest control or farming.


The issue isn't a almost 1 off attack in China. It's the constant occurrence of these gun related massacres in America.
Actually, that is incorrect. The amount of mass shooting incidents has not increased at all (http://news.yahoo.com/no-rise-mass-killings-impact-huge-185700637.html). They've actually gone down in the last decade. The media has ramped up the coverage of them. The media has you by the balls, amigo.

Have you even looked up MK Ultra and Operation Northwoods?

In your own words: "ps don't answer that".
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: virtuoso on December 16, 2012, 11:42:28 AM
Are you unable to read? I have cited other recent massacres in which scores of people have died from knife attacks, meat cleaver attacks.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 16, 2012, 11:45:13 AM
The 2nd Amendment which is the right to bear arms was put into place to protect the average person against a tyrannical government.

No it wasn't.




And you know 100's of gun owners? I literally know 3 people at the most, and 2 of them work in pest control or farming.


The issue isn't a almost 1 off attack in China. It's the constant occurrence of these gun related massacres in America.
Actually, that is incorrect. The amount of mass shooting incidents has not increased at all (http://news.yahoo.com/no-rise-mass-killings-impact-huge-185700637.html). They've actually gone down in the last decade. The media has ramped up the coverage of them. The media has you by the balls, amigo.

Have you even looked up MK Ultra and Operation Northwoods?

In your own words: "ps don't answer that".


"There is no pattern, there is no increase," says criminologist James Allen Fox of Boston's Northeastern University, who has been studying the subject since the 1980s, spurred by a rash of mass shootings in post offices."


There is a pattern if you look at America vs the rest of the Western World. They are nearly all in America homie. That's the pattern. Saying there is no increase is like saying 'its ok they still happen' - because u except they are part of normal society.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 16, 2012, 11:48:17 AM

Which part about them utilising other weapons to kill don't you get?


The point isn't whether or not other weapons can kill but that firearms can be used by anyone (no skill or strength required) to kill a huge amount of people in a very short time. It's still not a good enough reason to take them away form people though IMO. In fact I feel that everyone should be REQUIRED to carry a weapon instead of just being allowed to. Would make people think twice about how they behave if they know they might get shot.
I cant remember the article, but there was a study where many counties and areas in the US that have concealed gun laws have led to lowered gun violence incidences. The logic being that people think twice to use a weapon on an individual in the event that the person they wish to attack may be armed as well.

Now, I don't reall like the idea of bringing back the wild west, but it puts a hole in a lot of your arguments.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: eurowigger on December 16, 2012, 11:50:15 AM
Are you unable to read? I have cited other recent massacres in which scores of people have died from knife attacks, meat cleaver attacks.

Just trying to explain why people (not me) are calling for gun control even despite the obvious fact that other things can be used to kill as well. If that was for me..

If you are claiming cleavers are just as good as guns for the job how come the army doesn't go to war with them? Would be really convenient not to deal with ammo logistics etc.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 16, 2012, 11:50:56 AM
The 2nd Amendment which is the right to bear arms was put into place to protect the average person against a tyrannical government.

No it wasn't.




And you know 100's of gun owners? I literally know 3 people at the most, and 2 of them work in pest control or farming.


The issue isn't a almost 1 off attack in China. It's the constant occurrence of these gun related massacres in America.
Actually, that is incorrect. The amount of mass shooting incidents has not increased at all (http://news.yahoo.com/no-rise-mass-killings-impact-huge-185700637.html). They've actually gone down in the last decade. The media has ramped up the coverage of them. The media has you by the balls, amigo.

Have you even looked up MK Ultra and Operation Northwoods?

In your own words: "ps don't answer that".


"There is no pattern, there is no increase," says criminologist James Allen Fox of Boston's Northeastern University, who has been studying the subject since the 1980s, spurred by a rash of mass shootings in post offices."


There is a pattern if you look at America vs the rest of the Western World. They are nearly all in America homie. That's the pattern. Saying there is no increase is like saying 'its ok they still happen' - because u except they are part of normal society.
Of course you leave out the part where these incidences have gone down during the past decade or the fact that lightening strikes are more common to kill people than a mass shooting lol.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: virtuoso on December 16, 2012, 11:56:26 AM
Are you unable to read? I have cited other recent massacres in which scores of people have died from knife attacks, meat cleaver attacks.

Just trying to explain why people (not me) are calling for gun control even despite the obvious fact that other things can be used to kill as well. If that was for me..

If you are claiming cleavers are just as good as guns for the job how come the army doesn't go to war with them? Would be really convenient not to deal with ammo logistics etc.

My remark was not aimed in your direction, i addressed your point a little further up.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: eurowigger on December 16, 2012, 12:00:41 PM
Are you unable to read? I have cited other recent massacres in which scores of people have died from knife attacks, meat cleaver attacks.

Just trying to explain why people (not me) are calling for gun control even despite the obvious fact that other things can be used to kill as well. If that was for me..

If you are claiming cleavers are just as good as guns for the job how come the army doesn't go to war with them? Would be really convenient not to deal with ammo logistics etc.

My remark was not aimed in your direction, i addressed your point a little further up.

Oh right sorry about that.

And you make a good point too. Gun control mainly restricts law abiding citizens, leading to a society where thugs have an upper hand over them..
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 16, 2012, 12:12:22 PM
I literally know 100's of gun owners.  Not a single one has ever shot anything other than an animal (that they eat) or clay pigeon.

Canadians, Australians, Euros are extremely brainwashed against guns.  Most cops in China don't carry guns, but I show how 22 people are stabbed and yall completely ignore that.  What's your response on that?

22 people were stabbed, not shot.  Those 22 people survived, there were no deaths.  

I am not brainwashed.  In Canada, you can feel safe at the movies, or going to school.  I can go anywhere in the country and feel safe knowing its illegal to carry a gun.  In Canada, you need to have a permit just to have a gun in the trunk of your car to go hunting.  


u need a permit in usa, as well
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 16, 2012, 12:20:12 PM
So these massacres are

A) done by the government making people crazy for their own ends? LMFAO

B) done by crazy people and a responsible government needs to step in and do something about it


Why can't you as a seemingly intelligent people work out that this is a distinctly American method of venting anger (towards almost always random innocent people) and it's carried out time and time again by your own people.

Ask yourself why it's happening on your own doorstep, and the rest of the civilised world isn't doing it.

Elsewhere I wouldn't be surprised if I heard a chronically depressed person hanged themselves. In America only I'm not surprised to hear about the same kind of person committing a high school gun massacre.


why do u act like u know whats going on, and laugh off any other possibility? do u understand that government has been trying to rid us of firearms for the longest, but cant do so because of the 2nd amendment? is it really out of the question for them to stage occurrences such as these for a greater cause? and more importantly, why do u want so bad for government to have total control over u? i dont get it. do u really think they're "good people" looking out for out "best interest"? taking guns away from citizens and giving em to only law enforcement would give those fucks even more power over us. WHY WOULD U WANT THAT? some faggot shit, foreal.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 16, 2012, 12:23:16 PM
It seems inherent in some people that they can't compute what is being conveyed. I have detailed to you several massacres and not a one off in which kids and other innocents have been the unfortunate victims of crazed people, now these people did not have access to guns so instead they utilise another weapon against those who are unable to defend themselves in particular little kids. This therefore pours scorn all over this notion that guns are the cause of these horrible incidents. If there were security guards with guns, or at least a teacher who is entrusted with a gun, then these crazed people would have been taken out.



good shit...dubcc=the only place where ull find intelligence debating literal retardation.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 16, 2012, 12:24:28 PM
I am not brainwashed.  In Canada, you can feel safe at the movies, or going to school.  I can go anywhere in the country and feel safe knowing its illegal to carry a gun.  In Canada, you need to have a permit just to have a gun in the trunk of your car to go hunting.  

I live in Japan, where guns are banned to everyone who's not a cop. Yet there have been numerous massacres here where people have used cars and knives to murder many innocent lives. Here anyone can feel safe that they're not going to die because of a gunshot, however the fear of being killed or severely injured via a knife or gas bomb or someother object just takes it's place/becomes bigger.
In the end it's not the guns, it's the people wielding the guns. Even if some things don't kill people as fast as a gun would, in no way does the risk of harm coming your way become significantly lower just because the laws get stricter. You have to do something about the maniacs who plot and do these horrific deeds first.


theres only one solution- BAN CARS AND KNIVES!
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 16, 2012, 12:31:58 PM
Why can't you as a seemingly intelligent people work out that this is a distinctly American method of venting anger (towards almost always random innocent people) and it's carried out time and time again by your own people.
Wrong again. Most acts of violence in America, gun violence included, are premeditated and the victims are known. Not random innocent people as you put it. Again, the media owns your ass, and you're too blind to see it. You're too blind to see that the media is in bed with the government as well.

People with your logic would ban arms and hands if strangulation deaths went up in your neck-of-the-woods lol
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: virtuoso on December 16, 2012, 12:32:32 PM
Nick, am neither liberal nor conservative, I am a mixed bag of views, but I don't understand how anyone can't understand that being able to protect yourself is an absolute must. Furthermore we can debunk a further fallacy which is often conveyed by those who oppose guns and it's simply this, if you look at UK gun crime since 1996 which is when the gun ban took effect, it rose massively, has seen masses of police resources, funds and man power put into it to try and address it and only now, 17 years later are the statistics beginning to fall to somewhere near the pre 1996 levels. This suggests that the the gun has not made people safer, all it has done is empowered the criminal elements in society. Every scum bag shot while instigating potentially deadly violence is a victory, every time a person dies at the hands of a scum bag who did not have a gun to defend themselves, then it's a tragedy.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 16, 2012, 12:34:35 PM
Shooting a kid in the head with a gun is the easiest way to kill them and the most cowardly way compared to most other methods.

Rushing a group of people with a knife takes balls


The dude that shoots a load of kids and kills himself before getting apprehended and answer for his crimes is a coward of the highest order. Most of these fruit cakes are trying to assert some sort of power over people they don't have. The biggest joke is on them when they target innocent kids and kill themselves. Either way they have no regard for life including their own.



Whatever the cause of these gun massacres they are regulatly happening in America 'almost' exclusively.

Don't you ask yourselves why?

And if you're saying 'some could be conspiracies' then ask yourselves this:

If it happens a lot anyway, why would anyone need to fake 'some'?


Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 16, 2012, 12:35:11 PM
Why can't you as a seemingly intelligent people work out that this is a distinctly American method of venting anger (towards almost always random innocent people) and it's carried out time and time again by your own people.
Wrong again. Most acts of violence in America, gun violence included, are premeditated and the victims are known. Not random innocent people as you put it. Again, the media owns your ass, and you're too blind to see it. You're too blind to see that the media is in bed with the government as well.

People with your logic would ban arms and hands if strangulation deaths went up in your neck-of-the-woods lol


will is a sheep, not a lamb
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 16, 2012, 12:38:58 PM
Shooting a kid in the head with a gun is the easiest way to kill them and the most cowardly way compared to most other methods.

Rushing a group of people with a knife takes balls


The dude that shoots a load of kids and kills himself before getting apprehended and answer for his crimes is a coward of the highest order. Most of these fruit cakes are trying to assert some sort of power over people they don't have. The biggest joke is on them when they target innocent kids and kill themselves. Either way they have no regard for life including their own.



Whatever the cause of these gun massacres they are regulatly happening in America 'almost' exclusively.

Don't you ask yourselves why?

And if you're saying 'some could be conspiracies' then ask yourselves this:

If it happens a kit anyway, why would anyone need to fake 'some'?





it's not happening because of the guns, it's happening because of the people behind the guns.......tell, me will, are u being serious right now? i mean, i never took u as someone who was dumb, but ur really proving me wrong here.


statistics prove that even countries who have outlawed guns have actually seen a RISE in gun problems, and even more people are dying because of the fact that they can no longer protect themselves.


if guns were banned, this kid probably woulda jacked his dads hummer and ran over hundreds of kids......should we ban cars in that case?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 16, 2012, 12:40:33 PM
Whatever the cause of these gun massacres they are regulatly happening in America 'almost' exclusively.
Regularly? Exclusively? LOL
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 16, 2012, 12:44:02 PM
Shooting a kid in the head with a gun is the easiest way to kill them and the most cowardly way compared to most other methods.

Rushing a group of people with a knife takes balls


The dude that shoots a load of kids and kills himself before getting apprehended and answer for his crimes is a coward of the highest order. Most of these fruit cakes are trying to assert some sort of power over people they don't have. The biggest joke is on them when they target innocent kids and kill themselves. Either way they have no regard for life including their own.



Whatever the cause of these gun massacres they are regulatly happening in America 'almost' exclusively.

Don't you ask yourselves why?

And if you're saying 'some could be conspiracies' then ask yourselves this:

If it happens a kit anyway, why would anyone need to fake 'some'?





it's not happening because of the guns, it's happening because of the people behind the guns.......tell, me will, are u being serious right now? i mean, i never took u as someone who was dumb, but ur really proving me wrong here.


statistics prove that even countries who have outlawed guns have actually seen a RISE in gun problems, and even more people are dying because of the fact that they can no longer protect themselves.


if guns were banned, this kid probably woulda jacked his dads hummer and ran over hundreds of kids......should we ban cars in that case?


But thats *not* happening because these people are getting hold of guns and the 'trend' keeps occurring. It's just so easy to kill people with a gun, you don't even have to be a good shot when u got a room full of little children. Not to mention a first timer could do it, but you need to be able to drive, to drive a car.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 16, 2012, 12:45:34 PM
Whatever the cause of these gun massacres they are regulatly happening in America 'almost' exclusively.
Regularly? Exclusively? LOL


And thats funny and inaccurate is it?

Lets say u had 10 gun massacres in schools in 10 years.......find that anywhere else in the western world
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: virtuoso on December 16, 2012, 12:50:46 PM
Let's expose another myth too
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers:_School_massacres

So in the worst school massacres (top 30) contrary to simplistic propaganda....73% occurred outside of America.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 16, 2012, 12:53:26 PM

Let's debunk another myth too...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers:_School_massacres

So in the worst school massacres contrary to simplistic propaganda....73% occurred outside of America.


I'm taking about the 'Western World'. Your statistics are loaded homes
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: virtuoso on December 16, 2012, 12:57:01 PM
If you wish to we can look at the absolute worst, you will see the individual caused the death and destruction through explosives, not with hand guns.

Right, I said 27% of the top 30 massacres occurred in America and if you want to widen it to just the western world...

23% of these school massacres have occurred in the western world outside of america
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 16, 2012, 01:38:05 PM
If you wish to we can look at the absolute worst, you will see the individual caused the death and destruction through explosives, not with hand guns.

Right, I said 27% of the top 30 massacres occurred in America and if you want to widen it to just the western world...

23% of these school massacres have occurred in the western world outside of america

So (not checking your figures) 3/4 of these attracts are in America. Just one country out off all those countries has 75% of the massacres, and that's just in general. It's could be higher if just looking at gun massacres.

Yet this isn't a major problem in America to you?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: MistaNova on December 16, 2012, 01:48:00 PM
Will, I feel like there's one word that describes you perfectly regarding this matter, ignorant.

You argue that almost every single one of these gun related massacres occur only in the US.
However you fail to realise that they only look that way because the media only looks at gun-related incidents that happen in the US, where you're legally allowed to bear arms if you filled out some paperwork. The media (and those that control it) wants you and every other person to believe that allowing people to have guns are bad. Then the government can take away the people's guns (and rights) and it'll be looked at as a "positive," or relatively positive, thing in the eyes of the media and people. Just like how "positive" it was for US soldiers to go to Afganistan after 911.
But even if you did ban guns you'll still have a lot of really terrible murders happen that'll be caused by knives, shovels, cars, plastic bags & bombs and because the people will have nothing to protect themselves with.

The concept of governments executing false flag operations and attacking their own countries appears to be unbelieveable to you as well. As you haven't specified if you've researched Northwoods or MK Ultra yet, and you're laughing at all the posts explaining how this is related to the government or helping the government achieve their goal.

As Sik said, the media has you by the balls. You're unwilling to accept any ideas or thoughts that don't agree with yours and because you live in England I doubt you really know how uncommon & overhyped (for lack of a better word) these massacres actually are over in the US and just take the news' word on everything.
You're a good member Will, but it's starting to feel like the fight scene from They Live where everyone's trying to get you to see things through a different perspective, but you're too stubborn to cooperate.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: virtuoso on December 16, 2012, 01:48:15 PM
No, I gave you the statistics for america and separately for the rest of the western world.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 16, 2012, 01:50:40 PM
last year, some dude had a backyard BBQ and poured drano in everyones drink. 24 people dead. BAN DRANO!
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 16, 2012, 02:11:27 PM
Iveus is the homie but you're confusing things


If I hate my neighbour and go round his house and kill him with any weapon (it doesn't even matter with what) I've intentionally gone out to get that dude and done the job. Lock me up, I've killed a guy over something stupid like a noisy hifi)

If I kill some dude in a fight that turned nasty, lock me up. Shit happens

If I kill a dude I was mugging and he fought back lock me up.




If this kid killed his mother, or the people he argued with I wouldn't even be posting on it.

We're talking bout spraying indiscriminately into rooms full of kids. It's a massacre, it's totally different the murders you're 'lumping it in with' my dude




EDIT: plus I don't even know what you're talking about 'the media only focuses on gun crime in America'

Nearly all the gun crime I read about is stuff that happens in the UK. The only stuff that makes the UK press regarding shootings in America are the massacres. You think they report all the other violent crime in America to 'corrupt' my view of the States? It doesn't happen unless its a massacre or something like when kids murder their parents
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 16, 2012, 02:36:04 PM
And again to Iveus you're talking about 'overhyped' news. Do you think one guy killing 20 kids doesn't deserve to be 'front page' news?



Regarding False Flag conspiracies Ill repeat myself:

If 'some' of these incidents might be staged, but lots happen anyway....what would be the point or need to stage 'just' another one?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 16, 2012, 03:08:36 PM
i wanna go back to visit Newtown sometime in 2013...pay my condolences in person so to speak
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 16, 2012, 03:15:41 PM
last year, some dude had a backyard BBQ and poured drano in everyones drink. 24 people dead. BAN DRANO!
Peanut allergies are at an all time high and children die everyday because of it. FUCK PEANUT BUTTER. Let's make it a schedule 1 drug like meth.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 16, 2012, 03:35:39 PM
The only stuff that makes the UK press regarding shootings in America are the massacres.
That's why the media is biased, Will. If the ONLY gun related news you receive about the US are massacres then I'd probably feel the same way as you. Does the media ever really report when people in the US are able to defend themselves with guns in your media? No.

About 15 years ago, some asshole came in and tried to rob my dad in his shop. Luckily my dad had a gun on him and as soon as the robber saw him pull it out and point it at him, he got the fuck outta there. This same guy got caught a few months later and he had killed a few people prior to robbing them in the past. The fact that my dad had a gun in his shop is the reason why he's probably still alive today. The cops weren't gonna save him at that moment. And guess what? Even if guns were banned in the US and my dad couldn't own a legally registered gun, the dude robbing people had a number of stolen guns in his possession.

Now tragedies do happen with the legalization of guns. So does that mean we should give the government the right to take away people's right to defend themselves in their places of businesses and their own homes? Hell no, because what exactly does any government really do efficiently?

The fact of the matter is, even in light of something horrific like the elementary school shooting, the positives of legal gun ownership still outweighs the negative. It has saved countless lives, and yes, it had led to some fucked up situations too.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 16, 2012, 03:39:43 PM
last year, some dude had a backyard BBQ and poured drano in everyones drink. 24 people dead. BAN DRANO!
Peanut allergies are at an all time high and children die everyday because of it. FUCK PEANUT BUTTER. Let's make it a schedule 1 drug like meth.
;D
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 16, 2012, 03:43:37 PM
The only stuff that makes the UK press regarding shootings in America are the massacres.
That's why the media is biased, Will. If the ONLY gun related news you receive about the US are massacres then I'd probably feel the same way as you. Does the media ever really report when people in the US are able to defend themselves with guns in your media? No.

About 15 years ago, some asshole came in and tried to rob my dad in his shop. Luckily my dad had a gun on him and as soon as the robber saw him pull it out and point it at him, he got the fuck outta there. This same guy got caught a few months later and he had killed a few people prior to robbing them in the past. The fact that my dad had a gun in his shop is the reason why he's probably still alive today. The cops weren't gonna save him at that moment. And guess what? Even if guns were banned in the US and my dad couldn't own a legally registered gun, the dude robbing people had a number of stolen guns in his possession.

Now tragedies do happen with the legalization of guns. So does that mean we should give the government the right to take away people's right to defend themselves in their places of businesses and their own homes? Hell no, because what exactly does any government really do efficiently?

The fact of the matter is, even in light of something horrific like the elementary school shooting, the positives of legal gun ownership still outweighs the negative. It has saved countless lives, and yes, it had led to some fucked up situations too.


the government should have all the power. they should be our God, we are merely people.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: KrazySumwhat on December 16, 2012, 04:28:26 PM
 Iam too lazy now but it would be interesting to look up the statistics here in Australia. After reading the comments here it reminds me of how much gun attacks have(seemingly) increased here. Relatively often(alot more than you used too anyhow) you hear about drive by's and other shootings.
 Not only that, home invasions have become SO much more common now, not saying they are common but they increasing. Sometimes the home invaders dont even have a gun. You'd think if we were allowed to arm ourselves they would think twice about doing that shit.
 Even just knife attacks and people getting killed by getting gang bashed or unluckily hitting their head on the ground after being king hit in drunken fights and dying seems more common.
 Its a tough one really because yes if we were armed it may make think twice but at the same time drinking is a big problem here, we can drink at 18 and the mentality of some people, so many cant handle their drink and i mean theres been times where i was drunk and if had a gun i may have shot someone, then theres the fact of how many mentally disabled people there are out there.
 Even just in my circle of friends there are a few who are on disability because they are "crazy" cant work, have been locked up, one had his guns taken away because he went loopy and started shooting through his front door.., had a mate show up off his head with a gun ready to go kill people, had to calm him down(may have been all talk). Once when we were kids two car loads rocked up at our local park to bash us there was like 3 of us my mate had a 22 pistol lol made them go away So i can see both sides of the coin.

 The government power thing i get though. Look at Australia, we are amongst the highest taxed nations in the world. Theres a sales tax, a GST, mining tax, carbon tax, etc. We pay over double what the rest of the world pay for almost everything.
 Yeah our dollar is strong and we earn decent money but the cost of living just keeps going up and up car registration always goes up, utilities, groceries, speeding fines(revenue raising), stamp duty, council rates, theres house and rent shortages, etc.
 We restricted things are banned or censored, not allowed, etc at least we dont have as many cameras everywhere like the UK(which i also see as a good and bad thing a the same time) But basically we are disarmed,  You know all the bikie gangs and criminal gangs are armed, our government dose what they please and Australia is too laid back, we dont stand up against the government, its not in our nature or ahh culture to riot. Yeah there is some protest but no real strength.
 Then theres the fact that Austrian is so multi cultural to the point where its being over run and getting more and more like spot the Caucasian.
 You know all these Arabs(just using them as an example after the riots they did in Sydney) n shit stick together, i want guns when the shit goes down. So, is it a good or bad thing that we dont have them?
 American would certainly be a hard place to invade though, with everyone armed like that.
 I think America is also proof that video games do not cause violence, with that many people armed playing battlefield and call of duty, grand theft auto, its proof video games arent the reason for shootings.
 
 
 
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: PLANT on December 16, 2012, 04:53:07 PM
It's not just the American media.  This story is getting a lot of coverage up here in Canada, on Canadian networks.  I still don't see why a 50 year old lady feels the need to own a high powered rifle either.  Having 3 guns in your home is a little much, don't you think?  If you need one for protection, to each his own.  But whats the need for 2 hand guns an a high powered rifle when you live in a nice neighbourhood in CT?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 16, 2012, 05:01:37 PM
It's not just the American media.  This story is getting a lot of coverage up here in Canada, on Canadian networks.  I still don't see why a 50 year old lady feels the need to own a high powered rifle either.  Having 3 guns in your home is a little much, don't you think?  If you need one for protection, to each his own.  But whats the need for 2 hand guns an a high powered rifle when you live in a nice neighbourhood in CT?

well as a single female she might feel the need to have protection but she owned a fucking assault rifle lol...a bit too much
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: PLANT on December 16, 2012, 05:39:32 PM
some things I found interesting;


A 12-year-old in North Carolina needs parental
permission to play Little League Baseball,
but not to possess a rifle or shotgun. In
Texas and five other states, there is no minimum legal age requirement for gun possession

In 48 states citizens can legally buy an assault
weapon. In 43 states the purchase requires no
license or registration.

 In 46 states there is no limit on the
number of guns a person can buy at any one
time. Only four states impose a limit of one
handgun per month as a precaution against
illegal gun trafficking.
[/i]


Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: eurowigger on December 16, 2012, 08:19:26 PM
Right now 133,008 people have signed the petition to "Immediately address the issue of gun control through the introduction of legislation in Congress" that was started after the shooting:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immediately-address-issue-gun-control-through-introduction-legislation-congress/2tgcXzQC?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 16, 2012, 08:25:52 PM
if they take guns away watch the amount of crazy, gun trading militia groups to double or triple in size
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 16, 2012, 08:26:36 PM
i DO support certain groups not getting access to guns


i.e. felons, the mentally unstable, blacks, women etc.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 17, 2012, 12:24:56 AM
The only stuff that makes the UK press regarding shootings in America are the massacres.
That's why the media is biased, Will. If the ONLY gun related news you receive about the US are massacres then I'd probably feel the same way as you. Does the media ever really report when people in the US are able to defend themselves with guns in your media? No.

About 15 years ago, some asshole came in and tried to rob my dad in his shop. Luckily my dad had a gun on him and as soon as the robber saw him pull it out and point it at him, he got the fuck outta there. This same guy got caught a few months later and he had killed a few people prior to robbing them in the past. The fact that my dad had a gun in his shop is the reason why he's probably still alive today. The cops weren't gonna save him at that moment. And guess what? Even if guns were banned in the US and my dad couldn't own a legally registered gun, the dude robbing people had a number of stolen guns in his possession.

Now tragedies do happen with the legalization of guns. So does that mean we should give the government the right to take away people's right to defend themselves in their places of businesses and their own homes? Hell no, because what exactly does any government really do efficiently?

The fact of the matter is, even in light of something horrific like the elementary school shooting, the positives of legal gun ownership still outweighs the negative. It has saved countless lives, and yes, it had led to some fucked up situations too.

Hey Sik, u see the news breaking this morning? Apparently a roll of paper towel caught fire when a dude was doing cooking breakfast in Wichita?

Shit made the late edition, front page here. Shame it bumped that story about an unexpected demand on heat socks this Christmas. Those things have got to be bad for your feet smh

some things I found interesting;


A 12-year-old in North Carolina needs parental
permission to play Little League Baseball,
but not to possess a rifle or shotgun. In
Texas and five other states, there is no minimum legal age requirement for gun possession

In 48 states citizens can legally buy an assault
weapon. In 43 states the purchase requires no
license or registration.

 In 46 states there is no limit on the
number of guns a person can buy at any one
time. Only four states impose a limit of one
handgun per month as a precaution against
illegal gun trafficking.
[/i]


Thanks for the share dude, those figures speak for themselves.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: The_Ripper on December 17, 2012, 12:34:09 AM
Norway has huge gun control and they had that mass shooting a few years ago

you live in norway ?  ::)
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 17, 2012, 12:38:44 AM
Norway has huge gun control and they had that mass shooting a few years ago

you live in norway ?  ::)

where did I say I lived in Norway you illiterate piece of shit?  oh that's right you can't read english properly  :grumpy:

Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: The_Ripper on December 17, 2012, 12:41:12 AM
On thursday, 22 students were stabbed by a "psycho" at a school in China. So please shut the fuck up about banning guns. There's a lot of fat fucks out there, let's ban spoons. Just because you're in a dumb ass euro country who let their govt take away your guns doesn't mean the US should.

In regards to NIKs post, I think he has a very legit point.

I'd encourage everyone to research MK Ultra. CIA has been doing it since the 50's.
Real talk. Let's ban sex too because sometimes people get raped.

Again, MK Ultra is a fact, not a conspiracy theory. Some of you need to pop that bubble of false comfort that makes you think your government is looking out for your best interest.


So how are the government turning these otherwise normal people into mass killers


Ps don't answer that

Research Mk ultra you dense fucking twat :stupid:

once a week you go to the shooting range with your dad and your mother i guess, it's a fantastic way to spend the saturday evening  8)
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 17, 2012, 12:44:36 AM
Elano is the last person to ask a serious question to

his 13 year old, 300 pound brain can't retain information
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: The_Ripper on December 17, 2012, 12:59:14 AM
We aren't some overly feministic faggots over here, we actually hunt and fish and behave like non-castrated males.  I know you can't fathom this, but its reality. 

I'm sure you are an obese faggot  :D
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: The_Ripper on December 17, 2012, 01:04:02 AM
lol @ americans. Im glad this did not happen in a civilized country.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: The_Ripper on December 17, 2012, 01:30:09 AM
Norway has huge gun control and they had that mass shooting a few years ago

you live in norway ?  ::)

where did I say I lived in Norway you illiterate piece of shit?  oh that's right you can't read english properly  :grumpy:



I understand english enough to see that you have some serious mental issues, you are not just dumb as a rock or retarded.
You are another shining example of a dipshit mother who should have done anal.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 17, 2012, 01:31:41 AM

Which part about them utilising other weapons to kill don't you get?


The point isn't whether or not other weapons can kill but that firearms can be used by anyone (no skill or strength required) to kill a huge amount of people in a very short time. It's still not a good enough reason to take them away form people though IMO. In fact I feel that everyone should be REQUIRED to carry a weapon instead of just being allowed to. Would make people think twice about how they behave if they know they might get shot.
I cant remember the article, but there was a study where many counties and areas in the US that have concealed gun laws have led to lowered gun violence incidences. The logic being that people think twice to use a weapon on an individual in the event that the person they wish to attack may be armed as well.

Now, I don't reall like the idea of bringing back the wild west, but it puts a hole in a lot of your arguments.

OUCH, you can't remember the article...

Hey Elano u keep up on international news. Have you read how many young teens (some preteens) die on the UK streets due to stabbings? It's due to the philosophy of 'the other guy' may carry a knife so I'll carry one. Shank him before he makes a move. Madness at the heart of this whole thing is you have young children setting 'rules of street conduct' - shits crazy and out of hand.

Moral of the story is EDUCATION. Teach a kid he HAS a future, has a right to life. That he's not living in some kind if front line. That these gang codes are not 'real life'. There is a way out and it's a step beyond small mindedness and don't listen to the thugs who are telling you this is the way to live. Kids every year are being saved from an early grave.

Same thing can apply to America.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: The_Ripper on December 17, 2012, 01:35:21 AM
Elano is the last person to ask a serious question to

his 13 year old, 300 pound brain can't retain information

no one ever asked you a serious question, that's why you are so angry.
and i'm sure that your mother's mouth is large enough to contain at least 6 or 7 dicks at a time  ;)
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Nutty on December 17, 2012, 02:42:56 AM
Time for a change America.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: es-jay on December 17, 2012, 03:20:40 AM
Let's expose another myth too
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers:_School_massacres

So in the worst school massacres (top 30) contrary to simplistic propaganda....73% occurred outside of America.


Take from this what you will:


Of 64 listed “Rampage Killings” in schools 17 took place in the USA. All but one were carried out with firearms.

21 took place in China. Only two of these attacks took place using a firearm.

Of these 21 attacks, 10 resulted in no fatalities. Overall 60 people were killed in all attacks.

There were 182 fatalities in school massacres in USA.

From 64 listed, firearms were used in 38 massacres. 16 took place in America.

42% of school massacres using firearms took place in America.



I'd rather take my chances against a psycho with a knife than a gun.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 17, 2012, 04:41:06 AM
Let's expose another myth too
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers:_School_massacres

So in the worst school massacres (top 30) contrary to simplistic propaganda....73% occurred outside of America.


Take from this what you will:


Of 64 listed “Rampage Killings” in schools 17 took place in the USA. All but one were carried out with firearms.

21 took place in China. Only two of these attacks took place using a firearm.

Of these 21 attacks, 10 resulted in no fatalities. Overall 60 people were killed in all attacks.

There were 182 fatalities in school massacres in USA.

From 64 listed, firearms were used in 38 massacres. 16 took place in America.

42% of school massacres using firearms took place in America.



I'd rather take my chances against a psycho with a knife than a gun.

Thanks for the breakdown homie
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Russell Bell on December 17, 2012, 09:59:58 AM
The problem isnt guns.  We have many rules and regulations when it comes to guns.  Who can buy, when, where, how, everything.  Majority who own guns legally own them responsibly.  Areas with the most gun crime are areas with the most restrictive gun laws (less people legally owning), thats a fact. 

We have a culture where about 60 percent of the population thinks its ok to own guns while the other 40 are probably against.  You arent going to be able to just take guns out of a society with free choice and guaranteed rights; and more restrictive laws arent going to prohibit law breakers from getting the guns they want.

If you wanna look at causes of why this stuff happens, lets look at the real root causes, not the easy to point out ones.  The healthcare system (mental health especially), family support/structure, the economy in general (no jobs equal people doing what they have to do to survive).

AMERICANS.... ::)

Its already a federal crime to even BRING a gun onto a school campus like that.  So yeah, more gun laws will really make a difference im sure.  ::)
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Russell Bell on December 17, 2012, 10:22:35 AM
Oh, I almost forgot.  This little fruit was also autistic.  Which is a big time mental problem, but the media was quick to talk about how theres no link between autism and violence...really?  Anyone whos worked with autistic kids or been around them knows theres always a violent one around (at least), and because of their condition they cant control themselves. 

But the villain here is guns.  Yeah..
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: The_Ripper on December 17, 2012, 10:58:10 AM
Nobody should own more than 1 gun, but the reality is that a lot of people got too many weapons. There's a problem when somebody is allowed to have an arsenal at home, can't y'all see where's the problem in america ?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Shallow on December 17, 2012, 12:06:24 PM
I am not brainwashed.  In Canada, you can feel safe at the movies, or going to school.  I can go anywhere in the country and feel safe knowing its illegal to carry a gun.  In Canada, you need to have a permit just to have a gun in the trunk of your car to go hunting.  


Where do you live? I'm in Toronto and in the past few years we've had plenty of major gun incidents, especially in 2005 and onwards starting with the Boxing Day gun fight in the heart of downtown, to multiple school shootings, to that gun show at that street party last summer. It's real easy here to get a gun illegally if you want one.

You know where it's even easier to get a gun? Switzerland. The people there are armed to the teeth, even with assault rifles, and there murder rate is lower than our's is in Canada.

The gun problem in the US in general is only really bad in inner city black and to a lesser extent latino neighbourhoods. Massacres like this one, that they get every couple years are predominantly white and middle to upper class but they only account for a small portion of gun related deaths.

Adam Lanza was a lunatic with intent to kill and become famous for it. No law would have prevented him from carrying out a heinous attck on innocent life. Perhaps his mother could have had him committed years before, but the only way this could have been prevented was if someone saw him and shot him dead before he made it to the school.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 17, 2012, 12:29:07 PM
Norway has huge gun control and they had that mass shooting a few years ago

you live in norway ?  ::)

where did I say I lived in Norway you illiterate piece of shit?  oh that's right you can't read english properly  :grumpy:



I understand english enough to see that you have some serious mental issues, you are not just dumb as a rock or retarded.
You are another shining example of a dipshit mother who should have done anal.


lmfao
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 17, 2012, 12:31:52 PM
I am not brainwashed.  In Canada, you can feel safe at the movies, or going to school.  I can go anywhere in the country and feel safe knowing its illegal to carry a gun.  In Canada, you need to have a permit just to have a gun in the trunk of your car to go hunting.  


Where do you live? I'm in Toronto and in the past few years we've had plenty of major gun incidents, especially in 2005 and onwards starting with the Boxing Day gun fight in the heart of downtown, to multiple school shootings, to that gun show at that street party last summer. It's real easy here to get a gun illegally if you want one.

You know where it's even easier to get a gun? Switzerland. The people there are armed to the teeth, even with assault rifles, and there murder rate is lower than our's is in Canada.

The gun problem in the US in general is only really bad in inner city black and to a lesser extent latino neighbourhoods. Massacres like this one, that they get every couple years are predominantly white and middle to upper class but they only account for a small portion of gun related deaths.

Adam Lanza was a lunatic with intent to kill and become famous for it. No law would have prevented him from carrying out a heinous attck on innocent life. Perhaps his mother could have had him committed years before, but the only way this could have been prevented was if someone saw him and shot him dead before he made it to the school.


money
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 17, 2012, 12:48:09 PM
I am not brainwashed.  In Canada, you can feel safe at the movies, or going to school.  I can go anywhere in the country and feel safe knowing its illegal to carry a gun.  In Canada, you need to have a permit just to have a gun in the trunk of your car to go hunting.  


Where do you live? I'm in Toronto and in the past few years we've had plenty of major gun incidents, especially in 2005 and onwards starting with the Boxing Day gun fight in the heart of downtown, to multiple school shootings, to that gun show at that street party last summer. It's real easy here to get a gun illegally if you want one.

You know where it's even easier to get a gun? Switzerland. The people there are armed to the teeth, even with assault rifles, and there murder rate is lower than our's is in Canada.

The gun problem in the US in general is only really bad in inner city black and to a lesser extent latino neighbourhoods. Massacres like this one, that they get every couple years are predominantly white and middle to upper class but they only account for a small portion of gun related deaths.

Adam Lanza was a lunatic with intent to kill and become famous for it. No law would have prevented him from carrying out a heinous attck on innocent life. Perhaps his mother could have had him committed years before, but the only way this could have been prevented was if someone saw him and shot him dead before he made it to the school.

And if his mother only had a .22 at home for her 'protection' he wouldn't have done nearly as much harm. Maybe not even had the balls to storm the place at all with 'just' one gun.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 17, 2012, 01:30:08 PM
I am not brainwashed.  In Canada, you can feel safe at the movies, or going to school.  I can go anywhere in the country and feel safe knowing its illegal to carry a gun.  In Canada, you need to have a permit just to have a gun in the trunk of your car to go hunting.  


Where do you live? I'm in Toronto and in the past few years we've had plenty of major gun incidents, especially in 2005 and onwards starting with the Boxing Day gun fight in the heart of downtown, to multiple school shootings, to that gun show at that street party last summer. It's real easy here to get a gun illegally if you want one.

You know where it's even easier to get a gun? Switzerland. The people there are armed to the teeth, even with assault rifles, and there murder rate is lower than our's is in Canada.

The gun problem in the US in general is only really bad in inner city black and to a lesser extent latino neighbourhoods. Massacres like this one, that they get every couple years are predominantly white and middle to upper class but they only account for a small portion of gun related deaths.

Adam Lanza was a lunatic with intent to kill and become famous for it. No law would have prevented him from carrying out a heinous attck on innocent life. Perhaps his mother could have had him committed years before, but the only way this could have been prevented was if someone saw him and shot him dead before he made it to the school.

And if his mother only had a .22 at home for her 'protection' he wouldn't have done nearly as much harm. Maybe not even had the balls to storm the place at all with 'just' one gun.


bullshit...he plotted it out. he woulda found a way to murder as many as possible. his initial plan actually included a lot more fatalities. who knows if he woulda made some kinda homemade bomb? or what he woulda done. the guns were not his reasoning for the attack, and if u think it was, u got a pretty simple mind.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 17, 2012, 01:53:31 PM
I am not brainwashed.  In Canada, you can feel safe at the movies, or going to school.  I can go anywhere in the country and feel safe knowing its illegal to carry a gun.  In Canada, you need to have a permit just to have a gun in the trunk of your car to go hunting.  


Where do you live? I'm in Toronto and in the past few years we've had plenty of major gun incidents, especially in 2005 and onwards starting with the Boxing Day gun fight in the heart of downtown, to multiple school shootings, to that gun show at that street party last summer. It's real easy here to get a gun illegally if you want one.

You know where it's even easier to get a gun? Switzerland. The people there are armed to the teeth, even with assault rifles, and there murder rate is lower than our's is in Canada.

The gun problem in the US in general is only really bad in inner city black and to a lesser extent latino neighbourhoods. Massacres like this one, that they get every couple years are predominantly white and middle to upper class but they only account for a small portion of gun related deaths.

Adam Lanza was a lunatic with intent to kill and become famous for it. No law would have prevented him from carrying out a heinous attck on innocent life. Perhaps his mother could have had him committed years before, but the only way this could have been prevented was if someone saw him and shot him dead before he made it to the school.

And if his mother only had a .22 at home for her 'protection' he wouldn't have done nearly as much harm. Maybe not even had the balls to storm the place at all with 'just' one gun.


bullshit...he plotted it out. he woulda found a way to murder as many as possible. his initial plan actually included a lot more fatalities. who knows if he woulda made some kinda homemade bomb? or what he woulda done. the guns were not his reasoning for the attack, and if u think it was, u got a pretty simple mind.


The home arsenal made it like a 'walk in the park'. Why make a bomb? Plus bombs aren't trending this generation. Besides, from the reactions from Americans on this board, I think they gonna be around for a minute.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Russell Bell on December 17, 2012, 02:18:06 PM
I am not brainwashed.  In Canada, you can feel safe at the movies, or going to school.  I can go anywhere in the country and feel safe knowing its illegal to carry a gun.  In Canada, you need to have a permit just to have a gun in the trunk of your car to go hunting.  


Where do you live? I'm in Toronto and in the past few years we've had plenty of major gun incidents, especially in 2005 and onwards starting with the Boxing Day gun fight in the heart of downtown, to multiple school shootings, to that gun show at that street party last summer. It's real easy here to get a gun illegally if you want one.

You know where it's even easier to get a gun? Switzerland. The people there are armed to the teeth, even with assault rifles, and there murder rate is lower than our's is in Canada.

The gun problem in the US in general is only really bad in inner city black and to a lesser extent latino neighbourhoods. Massacres like this one, that they get every couple years are predominantly white and middle to upper class but they only account for a small portion of gun related deaths.

Adam Lanza was a lunatic with intent to kill and become famous for it. No law would have prevented him from carrying out a heinous attck on innocent life. Perhaps his mother could have had him committed years before, but the only way this could have been prevented was if someone saw him and shot him dead before he made it to the school.

And if his mother only had a .22 at home for her 'protection' he wouldn't have done nearly as much harm. Maybe not even had the balls to storm the place at all with 'just' one gun.


bullshit...he plotted it out. he woulda found a way to murder as many as possible. his initial plan actually included a lot more fatalities. who knows if he woulda made some kinda homemade bomb? or what he woulda done. the guns were not his reasoning for the attack, and if u think it was, u got a pretty simple mind.


The home arsenal made it like a 'walk in the park'. Why make a bomb? Plus bombs aren't trending this generation. Besides, from the reactions from Americans on this board, I think they gonna be around for a minute.

LOL

And if you and anyone else against gun ownership rights took every gun away from every person, sane/law abiding or crazy/criminal, bombs would be "trending".  See the point?

Biggest school massacre ever wasnt at the hands of someone with a gun.  Look it up. 
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 17, 2012, 02:23:16 PM
I am not brainwashed.  In Canada, you can feel safe at the movies, or going to school.  I can go anywhere in the country and feel safe knowing its illegal to carry a gun.  In Canada, you need to have a permit just to have a gun in the trunk of your car to go hunting.  


Where do you live? I'm in Toronto and in the past few years we've had plenty of major gun incidents, especially in 2005 and onwards starting with the Boxing Day gun fight in the heart of downtown, to multiple school shootings, to that gun show at that street party last summer. It's real easy here to get a gun illegally if you want one.

You know where it's even easier to get a gun? Switzerland. The people there are armed to the teeth, even with assault rifles, and there murder rate is lower than our's is in Canada.

The gun problem in the US in general is only really bad in inner city black and to a lesser extent latino neighbourhoods. Massacres like this one, that they get every couple years are predominantly white and middle to upper class but they only account for a small portion of gun related deaths.

Adam Lanza was a lunatic with intent to kill and become famous for it. No law would have prevented him from carrying out a heinous attck on innocent life. Perhaps his mother could have had him committed years before, but the only way this could have been prevented was if someone saw him and shot him dead before he made it to the school.

And if his mother only had a .22 at home for her 'protection' he wouldn't have done nearly as much harm. Maybe not even had the balls to storm the place at all with 'just' one gun.


bullshit...he plotted it out. he woulda found a way to murder as many as possible. his initial plan actually included a lot more fatalities. who knows if he woulda made some kinda homemade bomb? or what he woulda done. the guns were not his reasoning for the attack, and if u think it was, u got a pretty simple mind.


The home arsenal made it like a 'walk in the park'. Why make a bomb? Plus bombs aren't trending this generation. Besides, from the reactions from Americans on this board, I think they gonna be around for a minute.

LOL

And if you and anyone else against gun ownership rights took every gun away from every person

Boring.

A change in the Law isn't going to take guns away from people. That's the biggest problem with the pro gun movement. Everything is in extremes.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 17, 2012, 03:21:21 PM
I am not brainwashed.  In Canada, you can feel safe at the movies, or going to school.  I can go anywhere in the country and feel safe knowing its illegal to carry a gun.  In Canada, you need to have a permit just to have a gun in the trunk of your car to go hunting.  


Where do you live? I'm in Toronto and in the past few years we've had plenty of major gun incidents, especially in 2005 and onwards starting with the Boxing Day gun fight in the heart of downtown, to multiple school shootings, to that gun show at that street party last summer. It's real easy here to get a gun illegally if you want one.

You know where it's even easier to get a gun? Switzerland. The people there are armed to the teeth, even with assault rifles, and there murder rate is lower than our's is in Canada.

The gun problem in the US in general is only really bad in inner city black and to a lesser extent latino neighbourhoods. Massacres like this one, that they get every couple years are predominantly white and middle to upper class but they only account for a small portion of gun related deaths.

Adam Lanza was a lunatic with intent to kill and become famous for it. No law would have prevented him from carrying out a heinous attck on innocent life. Perhaps his mother could have had him committed years before, but the only way this could have been prevented was if someone saw him and shot him dead before he made it to the school.

And if his mother only had a .22 at home for her 'protection' he wouldn't have done nearly as much harm. Maybe not even had the balls to storm the place at all with 'just' one gun.


bullshit...he plotted it out. he woulda found a way to murder as many as possible. his initial plan actually included a lot more fatalities. who knows if he woulda made some kinda homemade bomb? or what he woulda done. the guns were not his reasoning for the attack, and if u think it was, u got a pretty simple mind.


The home arsenal made it like a 'walk in the park'. Why make a bomb? Plus bombs aren't trending this generation. Besides, from the reactions from Americans on this board, I think they gonna be around for a minute.

LOL

And if you and anyone else against gun ownership rights took every gun away from every person

Boring.

A change in the Law isn't going to take guns away from people. That's the biggest problem with the pro gun movement. Everything is in extremes.


all it's gunna do is leave less people armed against criminals and more reliant on police/government...dont u understand this? do u really cherish police/government that much? who in their right mind wants the police/government to have MORE rights over them? i'll tell ya who...a sheep. never a lamb.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: J. B A N A N A S on December 17, 2012, 03:52:12 PM
Wow Elior, you really sank to a new level with this one.

Now I'm going to say this to be constructive: Cut back on the weed a little, you're not built for long term use bro.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 17, 2012, 05:05:43 PM
Wow Elior, you really sank to a new level with this one.

Now I'm going to say this to be constructive: Cut back on the weed a little, you're not built for long term use bro.


ur not really this dumb, banana boy....are u?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: J. B A N A N A S on December 17, 2012, 05:18:10 PM
Wow Elior, you really sank to a new level with this one.

Now I'm going to say this to be constructive: Cut back on the weed a little, you're not built for long term use bro.


ur not really this dumb, banana boy....are u?

You claimed the shooting was carried out by a government operative as part of a plan to subdue the public in to giving up their guns. Go ahead, call me names for thinking it's ridiculous.  :)
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Shallow on December 17, 2012, 09:20:17 PM

The home arsenal made it like a 'walk in the park'. Why make a bomb? Plus bombs aren't trending this generation. Besides, from the reactions from Americans on this board, I think they gonna be around for a minute.

The glory of the gun in the American culture play a huge role in the weapon of choice for these lunatics. I'm sure the idea of walking into a building and blasting away people is a real turn on for them. But if the "gun" wasn't an option they would use bombs, or fire or poison. Because their main purpose is murder, then suicide, and the thought of being famous for it all when it's over.

And judging by the arsenal of the mom. She seems like a person that likes guns like a coke head like cocaine, and just like the cokehead still gets cocaine, this woman would still have gotten that arsenal through the black markets. The laws would not have stopped this woman from getting guns.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 17, 2012, 09:43:13 PM
unlike that colorado story this one has nothing screaming conspiracy
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 17, 2012, 11:51:03 PM
unlike that colorado story this one has nothing screaming conspiracy

Lmao this story has so many inconsistencies it's almost overwhelming.

Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 17, 2012, 11:56:07 PM
On thursday, 22 students were stabbed by a "psycho" at a school in China. So please shut the fuck up about banning guns. There's a lot of fat fucks out there, let's ban spoons. Just because you're in a dumb ass euro country who let their govt take away your guns doesn't mean the US should.

In regards to NIKs post, I think he has a very legit point.

I'd encourage everyone to research MK Ultra. CIA has been doing it since the 50's.
Real talk. Let's ban sex too because sometimes people get raped.

Again, MK Ultra is a fact, not a conspiracy theory. Some of you need to pop that bubble of false comfort that makes you think your government is looking out for your best interest.


So how are the government turning these otherwise normal people into mass killers


Ps don't answer that

Research Mk ultra you dense fucking twat :stupid:

once a week you go to the shooting range with your dad and your mother i guess, it's a fantastic way to spend the saturday evening  8)

I know it doesn't compare your thrilling Saturday nights sitting home alone in your tighty whiteys eating ice cream and posting memes on the Internet. I'm being sarcastic which will be lost on you as your grasp of the English language is a little dicey.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 17, 2012, 11:59:26 PM
lol @ americans. Im glad this did not happen in a civilized country.

Like Norway?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Russell Bell on December 18, 2012, 12:02:20 AM
I am not brainwashed.  In Canada, you can feel safe at the movies, or going to school.  I can go anywhere in the country and feel safe knowing its illegal to carry a gun.  In Canada, you need to have a permit just to have a gun in the trunk of your car to go hunting.  


Where do you live? I'm in Toronto and in the past few years we've had plenty of major gun incidents, especially in 2005 and onwards starting with the Boxing Day gun fight in the heart of downtown, to multiple school shootings, to that gun show at that street party last summer. It's real easy here to get a gun illegally if you want one.

You know where it's even easier to get a gun? Switzerland. The people there are armed to the teeth, even with assault rifles, and there murder rate is lower than our's is in Canada.

The gun problem in the US in general is only really bad in inner city black and to a lesser extent latino neighbourhoods. Massacres like this one, that they get every couple years are predominantly white and middle to upper class but they only account for a small portion of gun related deaths.

Adam Lanza was a lunatic with intent to kill and become famous for it. No law would have prevented him from carrying out a heinous attck on innocent life. Perhaps his mother could have had him committed years before, but the only way this could have been prevented was if someone saw him and shot him dead before he made it to the school.

And if his mother only had a .22 at home for her 'protection' he wouldn't have done nearly as much harm. Maybe not even had the balls to storm the place at all with 'just' one gun.


bullshit...he plotted it out. he woulda found a way to murder as many as possible. his initial plan actually included a lot more fatalities. who knows if he woulda made some kinda homemade bomb? or what he woulda done. the guns were not his reasoning for the attack, and if u think it was, u got a pretty simple mind.


The home arsenal made it like a 'walk in the park'. Why make a bomb? Plus bombs aren't trending this generation. Besides, from the reactions from Americans on this board, I think they gonna be around for a minute.

LOL

And if you and anyone else against gun ownership rights took every gun away from every person

Boring.

A change in the Law isn't going to take guns away from people. That's the biggest problem with the pro gun movement. Everything is in extremes.

I was speaking in extremes to prove a point.  At best, your side of the argument takes every gun away, theres still avenues to do what crazy people do.  But at worst, it disarms the law abiding folks who actually follow these kinds of laws and youre left with all the nuts and gangbangers who can rob, steal, and massacre you and whoever they want.  That last part is another part of our culture you apparently dont understand  ;).
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 18, 2012, 12:03:32 AM
I literally know 100's of gun owners.  Not a single one has ever shot anything other than an animal (that they eat) or clay pigeon.

Canadians, Australians, Euros are extremely brainwashed against guns.  Most cops in China don't carry guns, but I show how 22 people are stabbed and yall completely ignore that.  What's your response on that?

22 people were stabbed, not shot.  Those 22 people survived, there were no deaths.  

I am not brainwashed.  In Canada, you can feel safe at the movies, or going to school.  I can go anywhere in the country and feel safe knowing its illegal to carry a gun.  In Canada, you need to have a permit just to have a gun in the trunk of your car to go hunting.  

True, but obviously his intent wasn't to kill. He could have went for the jugular but didn't.

I feel safe here. I feel sorry for those people that watch so much tv that they are scared to leave their house.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Russell Bell on December 18, 2012, 12:03:45 AM
lol @ americans. Im glad this did not happen in a civilized country.

Like Norway?

LOL Euros hate America soo much but would slob 2pac's knob if he was around.  Ironic for so many reasons.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 18, 2012, 12:09:08 AM
lol @ americans. Im glad this did not happen in a civilized country.

Like Norway?

LOL Euros hate America soo much but would slob 2pac's knob if he was around.  Ironic for so many reasons.

Lol actually I don't hate America. I hate the slaughter of innocents (this time 20 6-7 year olds and 6 teachers) if Americans didn't think they were in 'the old west' still (no 2Pac) and hadn't believed in those John Carpentet movies they saw...
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: The_Ripper on December 18, 2012, 12:09:31 AM
On thursday, 22 students were stabbed by a "psycho" at a school in China. So please shut the fuck up about banning guns. There's a lot of fat fucks out there, let's ban spoons. Just because you're in a dumb ass euro country who let their govt take away your guns doesn't mean the US should.

In regards to NIKs post, I think he has a very legit point.

I'd encourage everyone to research MK Ultra. CIA has been doing it since the 50's.
Real talk. Let's ban sex too because sometimes people get raped.

Again, MK Ultra is a fact, not a conspiracy theory. Some of you need to pop that bubble of false comfort that makes you think your government is looking out for your best interest.


So how are the government turning these otherwise normal people into mass killers


Ps don't answer that

Research Mk ultra you dense fucking twat :stupid:

once a week you go to the shooting range with your dad and your mother i guess, it's a fantastic way to spend the saturday evening  8)

I know it doesn't compare your thrilling Saturday nights sitting home alone in your tighty whiteys eating ice cream and posting memes on the Internet. I'm being sarcastic which will be lost on you as your grasp of the English language is a little dicey.

i'm not petey, or your brother  :loser:
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: eurowigger on December 18, 2012, 12:09:53 AM
lol @ americans. Im glad this did not happen in a civilized country.

Like Norway?

LOL Euros hate America soo much but would slob 2pac's knob if he was around.  Ironic for so many reasons.

If your only interaction with Europeans is on hiphop websites that might seem to be the case but the vast majority of us have absolutely no idea who he even was.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 18, 2012, 12:10:24 AM
Are you unable to read? I have cited other recent massacres in which scores of people have died from knife attacks, meat cleaver attacks.

Isn't is hilarious / sad? Brainwashed to such a degree that they can't even process points that completely blow their arguments out of the water. They just pretend like those posts aren't even in the thread so they can stay in candy land.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: The_Ripper on December 18, 2012, 12:11:03 AM
lol @ americans. Im glad this did not happen in a civilized country.

Like Norway?

LOL Euros hate America soo much

in this forum, it's the other way around
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Russell Bell on December 18, 2012, 12:11:17 AM
Ive got a question for you folks on here:

What do Detroit and Chicago have in common?

Wait, I'll answer....

They have some of the strictest gun laws in the country AND the highest murder rates in the country.  
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 18, 2012, 12:11:43 AM
On thursday, 22 students were stabbed by a "psycho" at a school in China. So please shut the fuck up about banning guns. There's a lot of fat fucks out there, let's ban spoons. Just because you're in a dumb ass euro country who let their govt take away your guns doesn't mean the US should.

In regards to NIKs post, I think he has a very legit point.

I'd encourage everyone to research MK Ultra. CIA has been doing it since the 50's.
Real talk. Let's ban sex too because sometimes people get raped.

Again, MK Ultra is a fact, not a conspiracy theory. Some of you need to pop that bubble of false comfort that makes you think your government is looking out for your best interest.


So how are the government turning these otherwise normal people into mass killers


Ps don't answer that

Research Mk ultra you dense fucking twat :stupid:

once a week you go to the shooting range with your dad and your mother i guess, it's a fantastic way to spend the saturday evening  8)

I know it doesn't compare your thrilling Saturday nights sitting home alone in your tighty whiteys eating ice cream and posting memes on the Internet. I'm being sarcastic which will be lost on you as your grasp of the English language is a little dicey.

i'm not petey, or your brother  :loser:

Ok, thanks elano. Run along now.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Russell Bell on December 18, 2012, 12:12:08 AM
lol @ americans. Im glad this did not happen in a civilized country.

Like Norway?

LOL Euros hate America soo much

in this forum, it's the other way around

nevermind
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: The_Ripper on December 18, 2012, 12:13:43 AM
Are you unable to read? I have cited other recent massacres in which scores of people have died from knife attacks, meat cleaver attacks.

Isn't is hilarious / sad? Brainwashed to such a degree that they can't even process points that completely blow their arguments out of the water. They just pretend like those posts aren't even in the thread so they can stay in candy land.

You are the one brainwashed here, and it's sad and hilarious at the same time judging by what you write
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Russell Bell on December 18, 2012, 12:14:08 AM
lol @ americans. Im glad this did not happen in a civilized country.

Like Norway?

LOL Euros hate America soo much but would slob 2pac's knob if he was around.  Ironic for so many reasons.

Lol actually I don't hate America. I hate the slaughter of innocents (this time 20 6-7 year olds and 6 teachers) if Americans didn't think they were in 'the old west' still (no 2Pac) and hadn't believed in those John Carpentet movies they saw...

No, YOU think we think we're in the old west.

A psycho mentally handicapped pussy shooting up a school has nothing to do with "wild west" culture.  If you werent thousands of miles away getting your supposed facts from select internet sites youd probably get it.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: The_Ripper on December 18, 2012, 12:14:34 AM
On thursday, 22 students were stabbed by a "psycho" at a school in China. So please shut the fuck up about banning guns. There's a lot of fat fucks out there, let's ban spoons. Just because you're in a dumb ass euro country who let their govt take away your guns doesn't mean the US should.

In regards to NIKs post, I think he has a very legit point.

I'd encourage everyone to research MK Ultra. CIA has been doing it since the 50's.
Real talk. Let's ban sex too because sometimes people get raped.

Again, MK Ultra is a fact, not a conspiracy theory. Some of you need to pop that bubble of false comfort that makes you think your government is looking out for your best interest.


So how are the government turning these otherwise normal people into mass killers


Ps don't answer that

Research Mk ultra you dense fucking twat :stupid:

once a week you go to the shooting range with your dad and your mother i guess, it's a fantastic way to spend the saturday evening  8)

I know it doesn't compare your thrilling Saturday nights sitting home alone in your tighty whiteys eating ice cream and posting memes on the Internet. I'm being sarcastic which will be lost on you as your grasp of the English language is a little dicey.

i'm not petey, or your brother  :loser:

Ok, thanks elano. Run along now.

Get off my nuts
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 18, 2012, 12:19:37 AM
On thursday, 22 students were stabbed by a "psycho" at a school in China. So please shut the fuck up about banning guns. There's a lot of fat fucks out there, let's ban spoons. Just because you're in a dumb ass euro country who let their govt take away your guns doesn't mean the US should.

In regards to NIKs post, I think he has a very legit point.

I'd encourage everyone to research MK Ultra. CIA has been doing it since the 50's.
Real talk. Let's ban sex too because sometimes people get raped.

Again, MK Ultra is a fact, not a conspiracy theory. Some of you need to pop that bubble of false comfort that makes you think your government is looking out for your best interest.


So how are the government turning these otherwise normal people into mass killers


Ps don't answer that

Research Mk ultra you dense fucking twat :stupid:

once a week you go to the shooting range with your dad and your mother i guess, it's a fantastic way to spend the saturday evening  8)

I know it doesn't compare your thrilling Saturday nights sitting home alone in your tighty whiteys eating ice cream and posting memes on the Internet. I'm being sarcastic which will be lost on you as your grasp of the English language is a little dicey.

i'm not petey


sorry Jrome but Elano might have outsmarted u with that 1 line :D
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 18, 2012, 12:22:35 AM
I have no beef with euros at all. All I'm saying is they can't really speak on it because they have grown up and been told that guns are bad and you need to turn them over to the government because the govt is good and should never be questioned.

Most don't understand the 2nd amendment at all. Virtuoso is one of the good ones though.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 18, 2012, 12:24:54 AM
I have no beef with euros at all. All I'm saying is they can't really speak on it because they have grown up and been told that guns are bad and you need to turn them over to the government because the govt is good and should never be questioned.

Most don't understand the 2nd amendment at all. Virtuoso is one of the good ones though.

you know what's funny is that with a gun ban the amount of home invasions will increase for people who have access to illegal guns, not having to fear other folk having guns to fight back
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: The_Ripper on December 18, 2012, 12:25:42 AM
I have no beef with euros at all. All I'm saying is they can't really speak on it because they have grown up and been told that guns are bad and you need to turn them over to the government because the govt is good and should never be questioned.

Are you joking, right ?  ::)
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 18, 2012, 12:29:20 AM
I have no beef with euros at all. All I'm saying is they can't really speak on it because they have grown up and been told that guns are bad and you need to turn them over to the government because the govt is good and should never be questioned.

Most don't understand the 2nd amendment at all. Virtuoso is one of the good ones though.

you know what's funny is that with a gun ban the amount of home invasions will increase for people who have access to illegal guns, not having to fear other folk having guns to fight back

Absolutely. All of these gun control nuts are practically begging to be robbed.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Russell Bell on December 18, 2012, 12:29:39 AM
I have no beef with euros at all. All I'm saying is they can't really speak on it because they have grown up and been told that guns are bad and you need to turn them over to the government because the govt is good and should never be questioned.

Most don't understand the 2nd amendment at all. Virtuoso is one of the good ones though.

you know what's funny is that with a gun ban the amount of home invasions will increase for people who have access to illegal guns, not having to fear other folk having guns to fight back

Thats what ive been saying with the culture divide.  Posters here come from places where they think Rick Ross the rapper is an actual drug kingpin and the most dangerous thing is getting run over by a double decker bus.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: The_Ripper on December 18, 2012, 12:32:14 AM
I have no beef with euros at all. All I'm saying is they can't really speak on it because they have grown up and been told that guns are bad and you need to turn them over to the government because the govt is good and should never be questioned.

Most don't understand the 2nd amendment at all. Virtuoso is one of the good ones though.

you know what's funny is that with a gun ban the amount of home invasions will increase for people who have access to illegal guns, not having to fear other folk having guns to fight back

Thats what ive been saying with the culture divide.  Posters here come from places where they think Rick Ross the rapper is an actual drug kingpin and the most dangerous thing is getting run over by a double decker bus.

LOL @ THE AMERICANS and their way of thinking  :D
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Russell Bell on December 18, 2012, 12:34:54 AM
I have no beef with euros at all. All I'm saying is they can't really speak on it because they have grown up and been told that guns are bad and you need to turn them over to the government because the govt is good and should never be questioned.

Most don't understand the 2nd amendment at all. Virtuoso is one of the good ones though.

you know what's funny is that with a gun ban the amount of home invasions will increase for people who have access to illegal guns, not having to fear other folk having guns to fight back

Thats what ive been saying with the culture divide.  Posters here come from places where they think Rick Ross the rapper is an actual drug kingpin and the most dangerous thing is getting run over by a double decker bus.

LOL @ THE AMERICANS and their way of thinking  :D

Rationally?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: The_Ripper on December 18, 2012, 12:43:56 AM
I have no beef with euros at all. All I'm saying is they can't really speak on it because they have grown up and been told that guns are bad and you need to turn them over to the government because the govt is good and should never be questioned.

Most don't understand the 2nd amendment at all. Virtuoso is one of the good ones though.

you know what's funny is that with a gun ban the amount of home invasions will increase for people who have access to illegal guns, not having to fear other folk having guns to fight back

Thats what ive been saying with the culture divide.  Posters here come from places where they think Rick Ross the rapper is an actual drug kingpin and the most dangerous thing is getting run over by a double decker bus.

LOL @ THE AMERICANS and their way of thinking  :D

Rationally?

Sure, this is the definition of thinking rationally:

"Posters here come from places where they think Rick Ross the rapper is an actual drug kingpin and the most dangerous thing is getting run over by a double decker bus"
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Russell Bell on December 18, 2012, 12:46:26 AM
I have no beef with euros at all. All I'm saying is they can't really speak on it because they have grown up and been told that guns are bad and you need to turn them over to the government because the govt is good and should never be questioned.

Most don't understand the 2nd amendment at all. Virtuoso is one of the good ones though.

you know what's funny is that with a gun ban the amount of home invasions will increase for people who have access to illegal guns, not having to fear other folk having guns to fight back

Thats what ive been saying with the culture divide.  Posters here come from places where they think Rick Ross the rapper is an actual drug kingpin and the most dangerous thing is getting run over by a double decker bus.

LOL @ THE AMERICANS and their way of thinking  :D

Rationally?

Sure, this is the definition of thinking rationally:

"Posters here come from places where they think Rick Ross the rapper is an actual drug kingpin and the most dangerous thing is getting run over by a double decker bus"

Yeah, we're talking about dubcc here.  Wheres the problem?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: eurowigger on December 18, 2012, 12:52:26 AM
I have no beef with euros at all. All I'm saying is they can't really speak on it because they have grown up and been told that guns are bad and you need to turn them over to the government because the govt is good and should never be questioned.

Most don't understand the 2nd amendment at all. Virtuoso is one of the good ones though.

you know what's funny is that with a gun ban the amount of home invasions will increase for people who have access to illegal guns, not having to fear other folk having guns to fight back

Thats what ive been saying with the culture divide.  Posters here come from places where they think Rick Ross the rapper is an actual drug kingpin and the most dangerous thing is getting run over by a double decker bus.

LOL @ THE AMERICANS and their way of thinking  :D

Rationally?

Sure, this is the definition of thinking rationally:

"Posters here come from places where they think Rick Ross the rapper is an actual drug kingpin and the most dangerous thing is getting run over by a double decker bus"

Yeah, we're talking about dubcc here.  Wheres the problem?

The problem is considering distorted fantasies pulled out of your ass rational thinking. But hey, it's your problem not mine.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Russell Bell on December 18, 2012, 12:55:39 AM
I have no beef with euros at all. All I'm saying is they can't really speak on it because they have grown up and been told that guns are bad and you need to turn them over to the government because the govt is good and should never be questioned.

Most don't understand the 2nd amendment at all. Virtuoso is one of the good ones though.

you know what's funny is that with a gun ban the amount of home invasions will increase for people who have access to illegal guns, not having to fear other folk having guns to fight back

Thats what ive been saying with the culture divide.  Posters here come from places where they think Rick Ross the rapper is an actual drug kingpin and the most dangerous thing is getting run over by a double decker bus.

LOL @ THE AMERICANS and their way of thinking  :D

Rationally?

Sure, this is the definition of thinking rationally:

"Posters here come from places where they think Rick Ross the rapper is an actual drug kingpin and the most dangerous thing is getting run over by a double decker bus"

Yeah, we're talking about dubcc here.  Wheres the problem?

The problem is considering distorted fantasies pulled out of your ass rational thinking. But hey, it's your problem not mine.

 :'(

I sorry I insult your countwy
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: eurowigger on December 18, 2012, 12:57:49 AM
I have no beef with euros at all. All I'm saying is they can't really speak on it because they have grown up and been told that guns are bad and you need to turn them over to the government because the govt is good and should never be questioned.

Most don't understand the 2nd amendment at all. Virtuoso is one of the good ones though.

you know what's funny is that with a gun ban the amount of home invasions will increase for people who have access to illegal guns, not having to fear other folk having guns to fight back

Thats what ive been saying with the culture divide.  Posters here come from places where they think Rick Ross the rapper is an actual drug kingpin and the most dangerous thing is getting run over by a double decker bus.

LOL @ THE AMERICANS and their way of thinking  :D

Rationally?

Sure, this is the definition of thinking rationally:

"Posters here come from places where they think Rick Ross the rapper is an actual drug kingpin and the most dangerous thing is getting run over by a double decker bus"

Yeah, we're talking about dubcc here.  Wheres the problem?

The problem is considering distorted fantasies pulled out of your ass rational thinking. But hey, it's your problem not mine.

 :'(

I sorry I insult your countwy

That's ok man. You're really only making yourself look like a fool.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 18, 2012, 12:58:38 AM
Wow Elior, you really sank to a new level with this one.

Now I'm going to say this to be constructive: Cut back on the weed a little, you're not built for long term use bro.


ur not really this dumb, banana boy....are u?

You claimed the shooting was carried out by a government operative as part of a plan to subdue the public in to giving up their guns. Go ahead, call me names for thinking it's ridiculous.  :)


never claimed thats what happened. claimed it's a possibility. ur the one making assumptions, banana boy. the mother of all fuck-ups.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Russell Bell on December 18, 2012, 01:06:27 AM
I have no beef with euros at all. All I'm saying is they can't really speak on it because they have grown up and been told that guns are bad and you need to turn them over to the government because the govt is good and should never be questioned.

Most don't understand the 2nd amendment at all. Virtuoso is one of the good ones though.

you know what's funny is that with a gun ban the amount of home invasions will increase for people who have access to illegal guns, not having to fear other folk having guns to fight back

Thats what ive been saying with the culture divide.  Posters here come from places where they think Rick Ross the rapper is an actual drug kingpin and the most dangerous thing is getting run over by a double decker bus.

LOL @ THE AMERICANS and their way of thinking  :D

Rationally?

Sure, this is the definition of thinking rationally:

"Posters here come from places where they think Rick Ross the rapper is an actual drug kingpin and the most dangerous thing is getting run over by a double decker bus"

Yeah, we're talking about dubcc here.  Wheres the problem?

The problem is considering distorted fantasies pulled out of your ass rational thinking. But hey, it's your problem not mine.

 :'(

I sorry I insult your countwy

That's ok man. You're really only making yourself look like a fool.

Gyeah
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 18, 2012, 01:46:47 AM
Wow Elior, you really sank to a new level with this one.

Now I'm going to say this to be constructive: Cut back on the weed a little, you're not built for long term use bro.


ur not really this dumb, banana boy....are u?

You claimed the shooting was carried out by a government operative as part of a plan to subdue the public in to giving up their guns. Go ahead, call me names for thinking it's ridiculous.  :)


never claimed thats what happened. claimed it's a possibility. ur the one making assumptions, banana boy. the mother of all fuck-ups.

no offense NIK but you yourself put in the THREAD TITLE "this shit has to be a set up"

HAS...not "could be" ;)
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 18, 2012, 02:04:09 AM
Wow Elior, you really sank to a new level with this one.

Now I'm going to say this to be constructive: Cut back on the weed a little, you're not built for long term use bro.


ur not really this dumb, banana boy....are u?

You claimed the shooting was carried out by a government operative as part of a plan to subdue the public in to giving up their guns. Go ahead, call me names for thinking it's ridiculous.  :)


never claimed thats what happened. claimed it's a possibility. ur the one making assumptions, banana boy. the mother of all fuck-ups.

no offense NIK but you yourself put in the THREAD TITLE "this shit has to be a set up"

HAS...not "could be" ;)

This^^


The only reason I posted in the thread
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: The_Ripper on December 18, 2012, 03:31:09 AM
I have no beef with euros at all. All I'm saying is they can't really speak on it because they have grown up and been told that guns are bad and you need to turn them over to the government because the govt is good and should never be questioned.

Most don't understand the 2nd amendment at all. Virtuoso is one of the good ones though.

you know what's funny is that with a gun ban the amount of home invasions will increase for people who have access to illegal guns, not having to fear other folk having guns to fight back

Thats what ive been saying with the culture divide.  Posters here come from places where they think Rick Ross the rapper is an actual drug kingpin and the most dangerous thing is getting run over by a double decker bus.

LOL @ THE AMERICANS and their way of thinking  :D

Rationally?

Sure, this is the definition of thinking rationally:

"Posters here come from places where they think Rick Ross the rapper is an actual drug kingpin and the most dangerous thing is getting run over by a double decker bus"

Yeah, we're talking about dubcc here.  Wheres the problem?

The problem is considering distorted fantasies pulled out of your ass rational thinking. But hey, it's your problem not mine.

 :'(

I sorry I insult your countwy

That's ok man. You're really only making yourself look like a fool.
;)
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 18, 2012, 05:00:51 PM
Wow Elior, you really sank to a new level with this one.

Now I'm going to say this to be constructive: Cut back on the weed a little, you're not built for long term use bro.


ur not really this dumb, banana boy....are u?

You claimed the shooting was carried out by a government operative as part of a plan to subdue the public in to giving up their guns. Go ahead, call me names for thinking it's ridiculous.  :)


never claimed thats what happened. claimed it's a possibility. ur the one making assumptions, banana boy. the mother of all fuck-ups.

no offense NIK but you yourself put in the THREAD TITLE "this shit has to be a set up"

HAS...not "could be" ;)

i dont know for sure, but there's a good chance
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 18, 2012, 05:38:19 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/congressional-backing-grows-gun-control-debate-220341844--politics.html
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 18, 2012, 09:31:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/2h1QNTQDnoU

This thread doesn't need to go much further.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 18, 2012, 09:34:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/jJAX4YbtIDs
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Russell Bell on December 19, 2012, 01:49:12 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/2h1QNTQDnoU

This thread doesn't need to go much further.

"Everything is about the packaging in this country"

Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 19, 2012, 02:18:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/2h1QNTQDnoU

This thread doesn't need to go much further.

Lol some angry and probably austistic guy saying obamas tears were fake. I HAVE PROOF!!

This type of guy preaching 'them and us' hate is no different than the Islamists people want to lock up on religious and race hate grounds.


On a side note maybe he should become a battle rapper instead - he's got the same mental issues most of them dudes clearly have

Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: The_Ripper on December 19, 2012, 03:10:11 AM
LMAO
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: virtuoso on December 19, 2012, 11:50:20 AM
Another laughable and just downright tragic remark inferring that Alex Jones is this type of person or that. Who gives a shit what he said? Watch the FUCKING footage,how can you not recognise a puppet sociopath when you see one "crying". Anyone that tries to infer (rightly or wrongly) about him to then infer that those arriving at the same conclusion are to be mocked, is a mentally stunted fool.
Indeed, as Jrome put it, laughable, that people can honestly be suspended in fiction when what is being plotted and what has already been instigated is a thousand times more sinister than some random crazed act of murder
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Russell Bell on December 19, 2012, 11:59:25 AM
Another laughable and just downright tragic remark inferring that Alex Jones is this type of person or that. Who gives a shit what he said? Watch the FUCKING footage,how can you not recognise a puppet sociopath when you see one "crying". Anyone that tries to infer (richly or wrongly) about him to then infer that those arriving at the same conclusion are to be mocked, is a mentally stunted fool.
Indeed, as Jrome put it, laughable, that people can honestly be suspendedicated in fiction when what is being plotted and what has already been instigated is a thousand times more sinister than some random crazed act of murder

another reason i quoted what i did

people are fucking stupid
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 19, 2012, 12:14:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/2h1QNTQDnoU

This thread doesn't need to go much further.

Lol some angry and probably austistic guy saying obamas tears were fake. I HAVE PROOF!!

This type of guy preaching 'them and us' hate is no different than the Islamists people want to lock up on religious and race hate grounds.


On a side note maybe he should become a battle rapper instead - he's got the same mental issues most of them dudes clearly have





tell me something...what is it that has u putting this kinda shit past american government? i'd truly like to know.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 19, 2012, 01:02:15 PM
i honestly don't care about any of them kids that died or the shooter (and the adult vics), that shit doesn't have anything to do with me. 



all ima say is fuck the gun control laws and lmao at the trolling in this thread, it's hysterical
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Russell Bell on December 19, 2012, 01:29:22 PM
i honestly don't care about any of them kids that died or the shooter (and the adult vics), that shit doesn't have anything to do with me. 



all ima say is fuck the gun control laws and lmao at the trolling in this thread, it's hysterical

Youre too stupid to know trolling when u see it.  That'd take an understanding of sarcasm.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 19, 2012, 01:59:07 PM
http://www.ibtimes.com/tantrum-over-burger-pennsylvania-man-sean-varone-allegedly-flips-out-burger-flippers-putting-cheese


BAN HAMBURGERS NOW!
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: K-MACC on December 20, 2012, 05:03:34 PM
every american should have atleast two guns on them at all times ;D bang bang  :scarface:
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Aladin on December 21, 2012, 06:02:26 AM
It is funny 2 see, that Nikcc was right after all.

You gotta give credit where credit is due.

He was attacked because from day one he said, that they gonna use this incident 2 beef up gun control.
Y all attacked him for that.

But now that your emotions are calmed down, you see that he was right.


Have yáll heard from The Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein?
The shock docterine is based on using disasters 2 push through a policy that they already had planned.
They can do this because they discovered that the psychology of the masses when in state of shock... by an disaster.
Is more open 2 suggestion.
You want it 2 stop ...so you want direct solutions.
These solutions, would in case there was no disaster not able 2 be accepted by the masses. People would rebel, like hey this is not well thought trough.

Welcome 2 the age of deception!!


Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 21, 2012, 06:29:53 AM
Looks like Brian keeps computers putin even in the motherland.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 21, 2012, 06:35:33 AM
Lol at the dorks who blame everything in life on the bogeyman. I'm guessing you all janitors too or unemployed
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 21, 2012, 07:01:29 AM
Lol at the dorks who blame everything in life on the bogeyman. I'm guessing you all janitors too or unemployed

Why didn't Norway's strict gun laws stop Anders Brevik from murdering dozens of people?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Aladin on December 21, 2012, 07:04:37 AM
Lol at the dorks who blame everything in life on the bogeyman. I'm guessing you all janitors too or unemployed

Do you feel, you are better then them?
The janitors,  the unemployed and poor.
Are you superior 2 them?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Shallow on December 21, 2012, 07:21:54 AM
Here in Ontario, Canada out Premier (Governor) Dalton McGuinty just released that every school in the Province (State) will ne be forced to install locks and buzzers on every door so that something like what happened in Newtown doesn't happen here. Even though Sandyhook apparently had a lock and buzzer system already in itand the shooter just shot through the window and opened the door.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 21, 2012, 07:28:35 AM
Here in Ontario, Canada out Premier (Governor) Dalton McGuinty just released that every school in the Province (State) will ne be forced to install locks and buzzers on every door so that something like what happened in Newtown doesn't happen here. Even though Sandyhook apparently had a lock and buzzer system already in itand the shooter just shot through the window and opened the door.

Here in the States, we have thousands of former war vets who are unemployed and I've seen people suggest putting a few of them at schools on guard.  That seems like a much better deterrent to me.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 21, 2012, 07:35:50 AM
Lol at the dorks who blame everything in life on the bogeyman. I'm guessing you all janitors too or unemployed

Why didn't Norway's strict gun laws stop Anders Brevik from murdering dozens of people?

Look at Norways history of massacres, and compare it to America.

Read closely http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Massacres_in_Norway
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 21, 2012, 07:51:24 AM
Lol at the dorks who blame everything in life on the bogeyman. I'm guessing you all janitors too or unemployed

Why didn't Norway's strict gun laws stop Anders Brevik from murdering dozens of people?

Look at Norways history of massacres, and compare it to America.

Read closely http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Massacres_in_Norway

But if gun laws are the answer, how did it still happen in Norway?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 21, 2012, 08:03:23 AM
Lol at the dorks who blame everything in life on the bogeyman. I'm guessing you all janitors too or unemployed

Why didn't Norway's strict gun laws stop Anders Brevik from murdering dozens of people?

Look at Norways history of massacres, and compare it to America.

Read closely http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Massacres_in_Norway

But if gun laws are the answer, how did it still happen in Norway?

You've got to ask yourself, why the love affair with these deadly weapons in America.

A change in the law alone will help, but the people have to come out of their daydream on the issue for this to protect future generations.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 21, 2012, 08:19:46 AM
Lol at the dorks who blame everything in life on the bogeyman. I'm guessing you all janitors too or unemployed

Why didn't Norway's strict gun laws stop Anders Brevik from murdering dozens of people?

Look at Norways history of massacres, and compare it to America.

Read closely http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Massacres_in_Norway

But if gun laws are the answer, how did it still happen in Norway?

You've got to ask yourself, why the love affair with these deadly weapons in America.

A change in the law alone will help, but the people have to come out of their daydream on the issue for this to protect future generations.

It comes down to individuals and responsibility. As I said, I know 100's of gun owners, none of which had killed anyone.

You can legislate all you want, it's not going to stop bad things from happening.

How come when the Brits banned guns did crime rates increase by 40% (as shown in the vid I posted in my thread)? Because making them illegal only pushes them to the black market.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 21, 2012, 08:35:26 AM
Lol at the dorks who blame everything in life on the bogeyman. I'm guessing you all janitors too or unemployed

Why didn't Norway's strict gun laws stop Anders Brevik from murdering dozens of people?

Look at Norways history of massacres, and compare it to America.

Read closely http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Massacres_in_Norway

But if gun laws are the answer, how did it still happen in Norway?

You've got to ask yourself, why the love affair with these deadly weapons in America.

A change in the law alone will help, but the people have to come out of their daydream on the issue for this to protect future generations.

It comes down to individuals and responsibility. As I said, I know 100's of gun owners, none of which had killed anyone.

You can legislate all you want, it's not going to stop bad things from happening.

How come when the Brits banned guns did crime rates increase by 40% (as shown in the vid I posted in my thread)? Because making them illegal only pushes them to the black market.

LOL those figures come from the Countryside Alliance's Campaign for Shooting. I guess you believe everything the NRA says, just because they are not the government.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 21, 2012, 08:43:47 AM
Lol at the dorks who blame everything in life on the bogeyman. I'm guessing you all janitors too or unemployed

Why didn't Norway's strict gun laws stop Anders Brevik from murdering dozens of people?

Look at Norways history of massacres, and compare it to America.

Read closely http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Massacres_in_Norway

But if gun laws are the answer, how did it still happen in Norway?

You've got to ask yourself, why the love affair with these deadly weapons in America.

A change in the law alone will help, but the people have to come out of their daydream on the issue for this to protect future generations.

It comes down to individuals and responsibility. As I said, I know 100's of gun owners, none of which had killed anyone.

You can legislate all you want, it's not going to stop bad things from happening.

How come when the Brits banned guns did crime rates increase by 40% (as shown in the vid I posted in my thread)? Because making them illegal only pushes them to the black market.

LOL those figures come from the Countryside Alliance's Campaign for Shooting. I guess you believe everything the NRA says, just because they are not the government.

I'm done responding to you, I wish you luck in life and that someday your ability to discern truth from fiction and propaganda improves. You're very deluded though, there may not be much hope.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 21, 2012, 09:15:51 AM
Lol at the dorks who blame everything in life on the bogeyman. I'm guessing you all janitors too or unemployed

Why didn't Norway's strict gun laws stop Anders Brevik from murdering dozens of people?

Look at Norways history of massacres, and compare it to America.

Read closely http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Massacres_in_Norway

But if gun laws are the answer, how did it still happen in Norway?

You've got to ask yourself, why the love affair with these deadly weapons in America.

A change in the law alone will help, but the people have to come out of their daydream on the issue for this to protect future generations.

It comes down to individuals and responsibility. As I said, I know 100's of gun owners, none of which had killed anyone.

You can legislate all you want, it's not going to stop bad things from happening.

How come when the Brits banned guns did crime rates increase by 40% (as shown in the vid I posted in my thread)? Because making them illegal only pushes them to the black market.

LOL those figures come from the Countryside Alliance's Campaign for Shooting. I guess you believe everything the NRA says, just because they are not the government.

I'm done responding to you, I wish you luck in life and that someday your ability to discern truth from fiction and propaganda improves. You're very deluded though, there may not be much hope.

I might respond if it's not on a web documentary that bases it's argument on one statistic of a much larger report (and on 11 year old figures). A report itself that says it figures should not be used to make a complete judgement on.

But you keep basing your view on 1 element of an infinite issue and telling people your view is right and there's is very wrong. ;)
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 21, 2012, 11:43:14 AM
LOL@William ....cant answer my question, silly boy?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 21, 2012, 12:06:05 PM
LOL@William ....cant answer my question, silly boy?

Did u ask me something Nik? I probably ignored it as irrelevant to the flow of the thread
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Shallow on December 21, 2012, 02:45:31 PM
Here in Ontario, Canada out Premier (Governor) Dalton McGuinty just released that every school in the Province (State) will ne be forced to install locks and buzzers on every door so that something like what happened in Newtown doesn't happen here. Even though Sandyhook apparently had a lock and buzzer system already in itand the shooter just shot through the window and opened the door.

Here in the States, we have thousands of former war vets who are unemployed and I've seen people suggest putting a few of them at schools on guard.  That seems like a much better deterrent to me.


Even though I'd think it would be an over reaction, if they decided to say take 2 or 3 percent off each teacher and principal's salary and give it to a war vet to stand guard at the door asa security, I'd have no issue with that.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 21, 2012, 03:06:33 PM
A change in the law alone will help
When has a law alone ever solved a problem?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: un0mic on December 21, 2012, 05:20:12 PM
Shits fucking nuts man
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 21, 2012, 06:02:59 PM
LOL@William ....cant answer my question, silly boy?

Did u ask me something Nik? I probably ignored it as irrelevant to the flow of the thread


dont take pride in being a punk, my dude...


http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=292607.msg2889724#msg2889724
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 21, 2012, 06:06:22 PM
A change in the law alone will help
When has a law alone ever solved a problem?


u can tell will has never set foot in america.....guaranteed home invasions would rise drastically if guns were outlawed in the country.

pushing gun control laws on a rap forum is equivalent to pushing gay marriage rights on a kkk forum. son is lost.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 21, 2012, 06:42:58 PM
I know right? How does Will listen to music that glorifies gun violence, but be completely against guns?

I was gonna say the only thing the government does efficiently is the post office, but those fuckers lost some shit I sent out a couple weeks ago so nevermind.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 22, 2012, 01:31:06 AM
LOL@William ....cant answer my question, silly boy?

Did u ask me something Nik? I probably ignored it as irrelevant to the flow of the thread


dont take pride in being a punk, my dude...


http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=292607.msg2889724#msg2889724

In answer to your question, I'm not closed to the idea of false flag attacks, but I'm not beyond having my own ideas. I don't need you to tell me it's not A so it has to be B.

I asked this several times already but no pro gun American would dare respond (and muddy their argument)

If some attacks 'could' be false flag attacks, but lots happen anyway.. What would be the need or point in staging 'just' another one?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: K-MACC on December 22, 2012, 10:28:19 AM
A change in the law alone will help
When has a law alone ever solved a problem?


u can tell will has never set foot in america.....guaranteed home invasions would rise drastically if guns were outlawed in the country.

pushing gun control laws on a rap forum is equivalent to pushing gay marriage rights on a kkk forum. son is lost.
home invasions would rise lol everybody would just start robbing & killing eachother over it  :-[ you americans sound like pussies, please dont take my guns that i dont use or i wont be safe shits pathetic  :-[
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: The_Ripper on December 22, 2012, 11:33:44 AM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/ef4070bcc759c0dbd721f9b707ac1a15/tumblr_mfg276rxHm1qz6f9yo1_r2_250.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/204fcd2583fcc3ac32df5fbfc3ee3d16/tumblr_mfg276rxHm1qz6f9yo2_r1_250.jpg)
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 22, 2012, 11:52:52 AM
A change in the law alone will help
When has a law alone ever solved a problem?


u can tell will has never set foot in america.....guaranteed home invasions would rise drastically if guns were outlawed in the country.

pushing gun control laws on a rap forum is equivalent to pushing gay marriage rights on a kkk forum. son is lost.
home invasions would rise lol everybody would just start robbing & killing eachother over it  :-[ you americans sound like pussies, please dont take my guns that i dont use or i wont be safe shits pathetic  :-[


ur the pussy who needs someone to tell u what u can and cant have......u want the government to have absolute power over u. it's quite sad how brainwashed some peeps are able to get.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 22, 2012, 12:00:11 PM
LOL@William ....cant answer my question, silly boy?

Did u ask me something Nik? I probably ignored it as irrelevant to the flow of the thread


dont take pride in being a punk, my dude...


http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=292607.msg2889724#msg2889724

In answer to your question, I'm not closed to the idea of false flag attacks, but I'm not beyond having my own ideas. I don't need you to tell me it's not A so it has to be B.

I asked this several times already but no pro gun American would dare respond (and muddy their argument)

If some attacks 'could' be false flag attacks, but lots happen anyway.. What would be the need or point in staging 'just' another one?

so if you're not closed to the idea, why do u keep dissin cats who are proposing it as a legit possibility? that in itself makes u closed to the idea. like i said, i don't know for a fact what went down...but to act like it's not feasible just makes u sound ignorant.

anyways, it's not "just" another one....these cats shooting up movie theatres, sikh temples, elementary schools have absolutely no motive. guns are RARELY used in this sort of way, but all of a sudden, in the midst of gun control war, about 10 happen in the span of 6 months......after YEARS of no major incidents. does this seem logical? LOL. before the Aurora shooting, there wasnt an attack for YEARS...then, all of a sudden, BAM, one after the other. and to add to this shooting trend of late, there was another shooting in pennsylvania 2 days ago that left 3 dead. it's getting out of hand.


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/high-powered-rifle-twobyfour-sandy-hook-school-virginia-155825050.html



^if u dont think thats fishy, what do u think is?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 22, 2012, 01:41:58 PM
A change in the law alone will help
When has a law alone ever solved a problem?


u can tell will has never set foot in america.....guaranteed home invasions would rise drastically if guns were outlawed in the country.

pushing gun control laws on a rap forum is equivalent to pushing gay marriage rights on a kkk forum. son is lost.
home invasions would rise lol everybody would just start robbing & killing eachother over it  :-[ you americans sound like pussies, please dont take my guns that i dont use or i wont be safe shits pathetic  :-[


ur the pussy who needs someone to tell u what u can and cant have......u want the government to have absolute power over u. it's quite sad how brainwashed some peeps are able to get.

Real talk. Will worships his masters aka the govt. He said if he gets robbed he will stand by, do nothing and notify the authorities. LMAO at this terry cloth pathetic excuse for a man.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: K-MACC on December 22, 2012, 02:04:27 PM
A change in the law alone will help
When has a law alone ever solved a problem?


u can tell will has never set foot in america.....guaranteed home invasions would rise drastically if guns were outlawed in the country.

pushing gun control laws on a rap forum is equivalent to pushing gay marriage rights on a kkk forum. son is lost.
home invasions would rise lol everybody would just start robbing & killing eachother over it  :-[ you americans sound like pussies, please dont take my guns that i dont use or i wont be safe shits pathetic  :-[


ur the pussy who needs someone to tell u what u can and cant have......u want the government to have absolute power over u. it's quite sad how brainwashed some peeps are able to get.
your allowed to own guns good for you nik im fine with not being able to walk around with guns unless for hunting, how im i brainwashed you pussy. horrorcore nikky coming for ya
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Russell Bell on December 22, 2012, 08:39:16 PM
A change in the law alone will help
When has a law alone ever solved a problem?


u can tell will has never set foot in america.....guaranteed home invasions would rise drastically if guns were outlawed in the country.

pushing gun control laws on a rap forum is equivalent to pushing gay marriage rights on a kkk forum. son is lost.
home invasions would rise lol everybody would just start robbing & killing eachother over it  :-[ you americans sound like pussies, please dont take my guns that i dont use or i wont be safe shits pathetic  :-[

LOL

I bet you dont even know anyone whos ever had anything stolen from their home, ever.  Am i right?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 23, 2012, 02:22:35 AM
LOL@William ....cant answer my question, silly boy?

Did u ask me something Nik? I probably ignored it as irrelevant to the flow of the thread


dont take pride in being a punk, my dude...


http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=292607.msg2889724#msg2889724

In answer to your question, I'm not closed to the idea of false flag attacks, but I'm not beyond having my own ideas. I don't need you to tell me it's not A so it has to be B.

I asked this several times already but no pro gun American would dare respond (and muddy their argument)

If some attacks 'could' be false flag attacks, but lots happen anyway.. What would be the need or point in staging 'just' another one?

so if you're not closed to the idea, why do u keep dissin cats who are proposing it as a legit possibility? that in itself makes u closed to the idea. like i said, i don't know for a fact what went down...but to act like it's not feasible just makes u sound ignorant.

anyways, it's not "just" another one....these cats shooting up movie theatres, sikh temples, elementary schools have absolutely no motive. guns are RARELY used in this sort of way, but all of a sudden, in the midst of gun control war, about 10 happen in the span of 6 months......after YEARS of no major incidents. does this seem logical? LOL. before the Aurora shooting, there wasnt an attack for YEARS...then, all of a sudden, BAM, one after the other. and to add to this shooting trend of late, there was another shooting in pennsylvania 2 days ago that left 3 dead. it's getting out of hand.


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/high-powered-rifle-twobyfour-sandy-hook-school-virginia-155825050.html



^if u dont think thats fishy, what do u think is?

Sad
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 23, 2012, 02:27:40 AM
A change in the law alone will help
When has a law alone ever solved a problem?


u can tell will has never set foot in america.....guaranteed home invasions would rise drastically if guns were outlawed in the country.

pushing gun control laws on a rap forum is equivalent to pushing gay marriage rights on a kkk forum. son is lost.
home invasions would rise lol everybody would just start robbing & killing eachother over it  :-[ you americans sound like pussies, please dont take my guns that i dont use or i wont be safe shits pathetic  :-[

LOL

I bet you dont even know anyone whos ever had anything stolen from their home, ever.  Am i right?

So in America do you class every breaking and entering with an attempt to steal,

As a home invasion - meaning that also means they will potentially rape you, your wife, children, and pets, then kill you?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Russell Bell on December 23, 2012, 03:56:11 AM
A change in the law alone will help
When has a law alone ever solved a problem?


u can tell will has never set foot in america.....guaranteed home invasions would rise drastically if guns were outlawed in the country.

pushing gun control laws on a rap forum is equivalent to pushing gay marriage rights on a kkk forum. son is lost.
home invasions would rise lol everybody would just start robbing & killing eachother over it  :-[ you americans sound like pussies, please dont take my guns that i dont use or i wont be safe shits pathetic  :-[

LOL

I bet you dont even know anyone whos ever had anything stolen from their home, ever.  Am i right?

So in America do you class every breaking and entering with an attempt to steal,

As a home invasion - meaning that also means they will potentially rape you, your wife, children, and pets, then kill you?

If someone breaks into your home, it is by definition a home invasion.

Does that mean they will rape and kill my family?  Not necessarily.  But that stuff happens all the time.  Its not a shock to read about someone being tied up or assaulted in their home around these parts.  So if I want to protect myself from this problem, whats wrong with that?  The law abiding folks like myself will be the ones tied up by gun regulation, not those who already break the law by doing the crime anyway.

Again, our school shooting "problem" is a mental health care system problem imo.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 23, 2012, 04:42:44 AM
If someone broke into Will's home. he would fix them tea and talk to them :)
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 23, 2012, 04:47:16 AM
A change in the law alone will help
When has a law alone ever solved a problem?


u can tell will has never set foot in america.....guaranteed home invasions would rise drastically if guns were outlawed in the country.

pushing gun control laws on a rap forum is equivalent to pushing gay marriage rights on a kkk forum. son is lost.
home invasions would rise lol everybody would just start robbing & killing eachother over it  :-[ you americans sound like pussies, please dont take my guns that i dont use or i wont be safe shits pathetic  :-[

LOL

I bet you dont even know anyone whos ever had anything stolen from their home, ever.  Am i right?

So in America do you class every breaking and entering with an attempt to steal,

As a home invasion - meaning that also means they will potentially rape you, your wife, children, and pets, then kill you?

If someone breaks into your home, it is by definition a home invasion.

Does that mean they will rape and kill my family?  Not necessarily.  But that stuff happens all the time.  Its not a shock to read about someone being tied up or assaulted in their home around these parts.  So if I want to protect myself from this problem, whats wrong with that?  The law abiding folks like myself will be the ones tied up by gun regulation, not those who already break the law by doing the crime anyway.

Again, our school shooting "problem" is a mental health care system problem imo.

It could be that clear cut an issue if Nancy Lanza hadn't been a gun fanatic.

It's a sorry situation, and I maintain if he'd only had access to a couple small handguns at home this never would've happened. After all he tried and failed to legally buy weapons the week before.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: un0mic on December 23, 2012, 08:45:15 AM
I wish he wouldn't have killed himself....
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 23, 2012, 08:51:37 AM
I wish he wouldn't have killed himself....

Really doe
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Russell Bell on December 23, 2012, 10:46:54 AM
Will at this point its impossible to get these guns off the street anyway, so your point is moot.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: MistaNova on December 23, 2012, 11:08:53 AM
The people arguing that America shouldn't allow people to legally have guns and that America's a dangerous place because of guns are Euros. LMFAO.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 23, 2012, 12:51:42 PM
The people arguing that America shouldn't allow people to legally have guns and that America's a dangerous place because of guns are Euros. LMFAO.

LOL cmon my Japanese/American compatriot.


I never called for that. But The Peoples love of guns is strictly an (American) G-Thang

I don't know why u guys gotta be talking in extremes when this issue comes up tho, for real.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: MistaNova on December 23, 2012, 02:23:16 PM
The people arguing that America shouldn't allow people to legally have guns and that America's a dangerous place because of guns are Euros. LMFAO.
LOL cmon my Japanese/American compatriot.

I never called for that. But The Peoples love of guns is strictly an (American) G-Thang

I don't know why u guys gotta be talking in extremes when this issue comes up tho, for real.

Everybody's talking in extremes because you're talking about how America is and how it should be when you're a Brit living in Europe basing your opinion on bullshit and stereotypes.
And what's even worse is that Americans who actually live in America are arguing with you that a lot of your views are wrong or at least overexaggurated but you're not listening.

I mean "the peoples love of guns is strictly an (American) G-Thang?" That sounds like another stereotype. And an incorrect one since I've seen lots of people fascinated and "in love" with guns over here in Japan as well.

Look, you're behavior and remarks are seen to almost everyone as that of a "mind-controlled sheep" in this world controlled by the mass media.
Through the use of various techniques like subliminal messages and double-binds the media constantly manipulates people into believing all sorts of shit. And this isn't some conspiracy shit or my opinion, it's what I was taught in my psychology course back in college.
So while you called Jrome's video in the other thread a "daft propaganda film" let me tell you that EVERYTHING on tv and in the movies is a daft propaganda film. The mainstream media wants you to believe in their shit, just like that video want's you to believe in it's shit. Only you'll just choose the mainstream media because it's more "accurate" in your eyes. Which is what everyone means when they say the media has you by the balls. You fell for their lies and still continue to believe in their lies.
And before you tell me that's not true (even after I said that this something I was taught in college) just look at the commercials seen on TV. They use a whole mess of techniques to try and get you to buy their products. The media is more than capable of manipulating people and they have been manipulating people for some time. And you, Will, have been manipulated into believing that guns are the real problem and that taking away yet another of our rights will make it safer for us just like what BBC, or whatever it is you brits watch, said.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 23, 2012, 04:25:14 PM
The people arguing that America shouldn't allow people to legally have guns and that America's a dangerous place because of guns are Euros. LMFAO.
LOL cmon my Japanese/American compatriot.

I never called for that. But The Peoples love of guns is strictly an (American) G-Thang

I don't know why u guys gotta be talking in extremes when this issue comes up tho, for real.

Everybody's talking in extremes because you're talking about how America is and how it should be when you're a Brit living in Europe basing your opinion on bullshit and stereotypes.
And what's even worse is that Americans who actually live in America are arguing with you that a lot of your views are wrong or at least overexaggurated but you're not listening.

I mean "the peoples love of guns is strictly an (American) G-Thang?" That sounds like another stereotype. And an incorrect one since I've seen lots of people fascinated and "in love" with guns over here in Japan as well.

Look, you're behavior and remarks are seen to almost everyone as that of a "mind-controlled sheep" in this world controlled by the mass media.
Through the use of various techniques like subliminal messages and double-binds the media constantly manipulates people into believing all sorts of shit. And this isn't some conspiracy shit or my opinion, it's what I was taught in my psychology course back in college.
So while you called Jrome's video in the other thread a "daft propaganda film" let me tell you that EVERYTHING on tv and in the movies is a daft propaganda film. The mainstream media wants you to believe in their shit, just like that video want's you to believe in it's shit. Only you'll just choose the mainstream media because it's more "accurate" in your eyes. Which is what everyone means when they say the media has you by the balls. You fell for their lies and still continue to believe in their lies.
And before you tell me that's not true (even after I said that this something I was taught in college) just look at the commercials seen on TV. They use a whole mess of techniques to try and get you to buy their products. The media is more than capable of manipulating people and they have been manipulating people for some time. And you, Will, have been manipulated into believing that guns are the real problem and that taking away yet another of our rights will make it safer for us just like what BBC, or whatever it is you brits watch, said.


I appreciate your posts (really)  but to me, pushing the point of government/media mind control right now is like saying Sandy Hook didn't happen. If this latest massacre doesn't result in a change then I feel very sad for those families who lost someone.

Peace
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: K-MACC on December 24, 2012, 10:24:35 AM
A change in the law alone will help
When has a law alone ever solved a problem?


u can tell will has never set foot in america.....guaranteed home invasions would rise drastically if guns were outlawed in the country.

pushing gun control laws on a rap forum is equivalent to pushing gay marriage rights on a kkk forum. son is lost.
home invasions would rise lol everybody would just start robbing & killing eachother over it  :-[ you americans sound like pussies, please dont take my guns that i dont use or i wont be safe shits pathetic  :-[

LOL

I bet you dont even know anyone whos ever had anything stolen from their home, ever.  Am i right?
you just lost your bet rus
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on December 24, 2012, 03:57:41 PM
guns will be banned by 2020 with Obama in charge lol
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 25, 2012, 03:03:35 PM
If someone broke into Will's home. he would fix them tea and talk to them :)


he would probably suck their cock, cuz the boy is soundin like a faggot in this thread.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 26, 2012, 05:03:33 PM
^LOL

By the way, I'm not a gun-loving American. I don't even own a firearm. That's just my choice at the moment. I do support people who want to own guns for the purpose of protecting themselves and for recreational sport.

I have a feeling a lot of the yuros on here think every American is crazy about guns and has a gun rack in their living room. That's not the case. It comes down to this: its our right as American citizens and the government doesn't have the right to dictate to us that we can't own them. The government wants to limit your rights, and it seems like more and more each day people are okay with that. It's not okay.

Shit like this is going to happen, there's no way around it. I'm surprised society functions as well as it does considering how many idiots you encounter on a daily basis. Some people get drunk and turn violent and homicidal: doesn't mean we should beg the government to ban alcohol again. Some people abuse prescription painkillers: doesn't mean we should outlaw them for those who use them responsibly. People OD sometimes from heroin and coke, and that's not even a valid reason for the government to tell people what they can or cannot put into their bodies.

And some people abuse guns.......that doesn't mean those who are responsible with their firearms should be punished. If we become pessimistic and shape our world based purely on worst case scenarios and let the 1-5% of idiots dictate our lives, then our children and generations after that are gonna have a very bleak future. People need to stop acting based on their emotions and THINK for a change.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 27, 2012, 01:20:40 AM
I'm not positive, correct me if I'm wrong Will, but I believe there is some sort of international law against hijacking a plane, killing the pilots on board & then crashing it into a building, killing 3,000 more people. Somehow, despite that law, that still took place.

So as these people here are trying to explain to you, just because there is a law against something, doesn't mean it's going to stop anything. Laws against driving over a certain mileage on a highway, done all the time. Run red lights, stop signs, happens probably once every second in this country. Robbing a bank, happens. Arson, just happened the other day on Christmas in upstate New York. It's obvious the government is trying to disarm America; for their own agenda though, not our safety.

But lol @ you saying "If there were only handguns, it wouldn't have happened". Like if the kid had a handgun with 30 rounds he couldn't kill the same amount of people.

Assault rifle, sub-machine gun, handgun, knife, baseball bat, wrench, etc. all can do the same job if the nigga behind it is sick enough.

The problem is the rest of America has your mindset & I can't blame them or you; whomever runs shit clearly went overboard killing little children.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 27, 2012, 02:26:19 AM
As Cham has entered the discussion, I'm bowing out :)

I made my point, Happy Christmas everybody!!

Have a safe 2013, and look after your kids
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 30, 2012, 05:44:01 PM
^ See you after the next gun tragedy  :laugh:
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 31, 2012, 01:30:00 AM
^ See you after the next gun tragedy  :laugh:

Only u can pull that joke off Sik.

Smh tho  :'(
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 31, 2012, 04:29:04 AM
Sadly, its not a joke.

But it is something you and I can both agree on that it will happen in the future.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 31, 2012, 08:06:40 AM
I'm not positive, correct me if I'm wrong Will, but I believe there is some sort of international law against hijacking a plane, killing the pilots on board & then crashing it into a building, killing 3,000 more people. Somehow, despite that law, that still took place.

So as these people here are trying to explain to you, just because there is a law against something, doesn't mean it's going to stop anything. Laws against driving over a certain mileage on a highway, done all the time. Run red lights, stop signs, happens probably once every second in this country. Robbing a bank, happens. Arson, just happened the other day on Christmas in upstate New York. It's obvious the government is trying to disarm America; for their own agenda though, not our safety.

But lol @ you saying "If there were only handguns, it wouldn't have happened". Like if the kid had a handgun with 30 rounds he couldn't kill the same amount of people.

Assault rifle, sub-machine gun, handgun, knife, baseball bat, wrench, etc. all can do the same job if the nigga behind it is sick enough.

The problem is the rest of America has your mindset & I can't blame them or you; whomever runs shit clearly went overboard killing little children.

LOL simple Amero, you wish you were as intellectually robust as the Euros. Fully evolved and sophisticated people, the Euros give their guns to their kings and queens without question. Only a simpleton Amero thinks that is unusual...what a bunch of paranoid fools lol.

Now excuse me while I go listen to NWA.

Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 31, 2012, 08:13:17 AM
I'm not positive, correct me if I'm wrong Will, but I believe there is some sort of international law against hijacking a plane, killing the pilots on board & then crashing it into a building, killing 3,000 more people. Somehow, despite that law, that still took place.

So as these people here are trying to explain to you, just because there is a law against something, doesn't mean it's going to stop anything. Laws against driving over a certain mileage on a highway, done all the time. Run red lights, stop signs, happens probably once every second in this country. Robbing a bank, happens. Arson, just happened the other day on Christmas in upstate New York. It's obvious the government is trying to disarm America; for their own agenda though, not our safety.

But lol @ you saying "If there were only handguns, it wouldn't have happened". Like if the kid had a handgun with 30 rounds he couldn't kill the same amount of people.

Assault rifle, sub-machine gun, handgun, knife, baseball bat, wrench, etc. all can do the same job if the nigga behind it is sick enough.

The problem is the rest of America has your mindset & I can't blame them or you; whomever runs shit clearly went overboard killing little children.

LOL simple Amero, you wish you were as intellectually robust as the Euros. Fully evolved and sophisticated people, the Euros give their guns to their kings and queens without question. Only a simpleton Amero thinks that is unusual...what a bunch of paranoid fools lol.

Now excuse me while I go listen to NWA.





1996

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowdrop_Petition

1997

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_(Amendment)_(No._2)_Act_1997


Last year 51 people died from firearms in the UK


Maybe in 15 years the USA could be a much safer place. I doubt it tho.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 31, 2012, 10:09:38 AM
I'm not positive, correct me if I'm wrong Will, but I believe there is some sort of international law against hijacking a plane, killing the pilots on board & then crashing it into a building, killing 3,000 more people. Somehow, despite that law, that still took place.

So as these people here are trying to explain to you, just because there is a law against something, doesn't mean it's going to stop anything. Laws against driving over a certain mileage on a highway, done all the time. Run red lights, stop signs, happens probably once every second in this country. Robbing a bank, happens. Arson, just happened the other day on Christmas in upstate New York. It's obvious the government is trying to disarm America; for their own agenda though, not our safety.

But lol @ you saying "If there were only handguns, it wouldn't have happened". Like if the kid had a handgun with 30 rounds he couldn't kill the same amount of people.

Assault rifle, sub-machine gun, handgun, knife, baseball bat, wrench, etc. all can do the same job if the nigga behind it is sick enough.

The problem is the rest of America has your mindset & I can't blame them or you; whomever runs shit clearly went overboard killing little children.

LOL simple Amero, you wish you were as intellectually robust as the Euros. Fully evolved and sophisticated people, the Euros give their guns to their kings and queens without question. Only a simpleton Amero thinks that is unusual...what a bunch of paranoid fools lol.

Now excuse me while I go listen to NWA.





1996

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowdrop_Petition

1997

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_(Amendment)_(No._2)_Act_1997


Last year 51 people died from firearms in the UK


Maybe in 15 years the USA could be a much safer place. I doubt it tho.

There's over 300 million people in Ameroland so that's not gonna happen. Just a lil but bigger than jolly ol England.

I'm glad you think it's so scary over here, keeps you and your socialistic world views out.

How come your queen is allowed to have hundreds of armed guards for her protection but you're not? You clearly think her life is much more valuable than yours.



Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on December 31, 2012, 11:03:12 AM
I'm not positive, correct me if I'm wrong Will, but I believe there is some sort of international law against hijacking a plane, killing the pilots on board & then crashing it into a building, killing 3,000 more people. Somehow, despite that law, that still took place.

So as these people here are trying to explain to you, just because there is a law against something, doesn't mean it's going to stop anything. Laws against driving over a certain mileage on a highway, done all the time. Run red lights, stop signs, happens probably once every second in this country. Robbing a bank, happens. Arson, just happened the other day on Christmas in upstate New York. It's obvious the government is trying to disarm America; for their own agenda though, not our safety.

But lol @ you saying "If there were only handguns, it wouldn't have happened". Like if the kid had a handgun with 30 rounds he couldn't kill the same amount of people.

Assault rifle, sub-machine gun, handgun, knife, baseball bat, wrench, etc. all can do the same job if the nigga behind it is sick enough.

The problem is the rest of America has your mindset & I can't blame them or you; whomever runs shit clearly went overboard killing little children.

LOL simple Amero, you wish you were as intellectually robust as the Euros. Fully evolved and sophisticated people, the Euros give their guns to their kings and queens without question. Only a simpleton Amero thinks that is unusual...what a bunch of paranoid fools lol.

Now excuse me while I go listen to NWA.





1996

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowdrop_Petition

1997

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_(Amendment)_(No._2)_Act_1997


Last year 51 people died from firearms in the UK


Maybe in 15 years the USA could be a much safer place. I doubt it tho.

There's over 300 million people in Ameroland so that's not gonna happen. Just a lil but bigger than jolly ol England.

I'm glad you think it's so scary over here, keeps you and your socialistic world views out.

How come your queen is allowed to have hundreds of armed guards for her protection but you're not? You clearly think her life is much more valuable than yours.


Hey YES!!! I've seen the light, thanks.

For the new year, I'm hiring some bodyguards, so I can be just like the Royal Family.

It's my right!! To live in fear, and fortify my home!!! Because I can!!! Go UK!!!!!!
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 31, 2012, 11:46:56 AM
I'm not positive, correct me if I'm wrong Will, but I believe there is some sort of international law against hijacking a plane, killing the pilots on board & then crashing it into a building, killing 3,000 more people. Somehow, despite that law, that still took place.

So as these people here are trying to explain to you, just because there is a law against something, doesn't mean it's going to stop anything. Laws against driving over a certain mileage on a highway, done all the time. Run red lights, stop signs, happens probably once every second in this country. Robbing a bank, happens. Arson, just happened the other day on Christmas in upstate New York. It's obvious the government is trying to disarm America; for their own agenda though, not our safety.

But lol @ you saying "If there were only handguns, it wouldn't have happened". Like if the kid had a handgun with 30 rounds he couldn't kill the same amount of people.

Assault rifle, sub-machine gun, handgun, knife, baseball bat, wrench, etc. all can do the same job if the nigga behind it is sick enough.

The problem is the rest of America has your mindset & I can't blame them or you; whomever runs shit clearly went overboard killing little children.

LOL simple Amero, you wish you were as intellectually robust as the Euros. Fully evolved and sophisticated people, the Euros give their guns to their kings and queens without question. Only a simpleton Amero thinks that is unusual...what a bunch of paranoid fools lol.

Now excuse me while I go listen to NWA.





1996

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowdrop_Petition

1997

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_(Amendment)_(No._2)_Act_1997


Last year 51 people died from firearms in the UK


Maybe in 15 years the USA could be a much safer place. I doubt it tho.

There's over 300 million people in Ameroland so that's not gonna happen. Just a lil but bigger than jolly ol England.

I'm glad you think it's so scary over here, keeps you and your socialistic world views out.

How come your queen is allowed to have hundreds of armed guards for her protection but you're not? You clearly think her life is much more valuable than yours.


Hey YES!!! I've seen the light, thanks.

For the new year, I'm hiring some bodyguards, so I can be just like the Royal Family.

It's my right!! To live in fear, and fortify my home!!! Because I can!!! Go UK!!!!!!

So you admit it is ok for your queen to have guns but not you? So you believe her life is worth more than yours. Queen wins, you lose.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 31, 2012, 12:17:36 PM
I'm not positive, correct me if I'm wrong Will, but I believe there is some sort of international law against hijacking a plane, killing the pilots on board & then crashing it into a building, killing 3,000 more people. Somehow, despite that law, that still took place.

So as these people here are trying to explain to you, just because there is a law against something, doesn't mean it's going to stop anything. Laws against driving over a certain mileage on a highway, done all the time. Run red lights, stop signs, happens probably once every second in this country. Robbing a bank, happens. Arson, just happened the other day on Christmas in upstate New York. It's obvious the government is trying to disarm America; for their own agenda though, not our safety.

But lol @ you saying "If there were only handguns, it wouldn't have happened". Like if the kid had a handgun with 30 rounds he couldn't kill the same amount of people.

Assault rifle, sub-machine gun, handgun, knife, baseball bat, wrench, etc. all can do the same job if the nigga behind it is sick enough.

The problem is the rest of America has your mindset & I can't blame them or you; whomever runs shit clearly went overboard killing little children.

LOL simple Amero, you wish you were as intellectually robust as the Euros. Fully evolved and sophisticated people, the Euros give their guns to their kings and queens without question. Only a simpleton Amero thinks that is unusual...what a bunch of paranoid fools lol.

Now excuse me while I go listen to NWA.





1996

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowdrop_Petition

1997

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_(Amendment)_(No._2)_Act_1997


Last year 51 people died from firearms in the UK


Maybe in 15 years the USA could be a much safer place. I doubt it tho.

There's over 300 million people in Ameroland so that's not gonna happen. Just a lil but bigger than jolly ol England.

I'm glad you think it's so scary over here, keeps you and your socialistic world views out.

How come your queen is allowed to have hundreds of armed guards for her protection but you're not? You clearly think her life is much more valuable than yours.


Hey YES!!! I've seen the light, thanks.

For the new year, I'm hiring some bodyguards, so I can be just like the Royal Family.

It's my right!! To live in fear, and fortify my home!!! Because I can!!! Go UK!!!!!!

And you are certainly the most fearful person here. I don't live in fear at all my little frail Limey friend. I bet it is difficult for you to keep a woman being so passive. Women like balls Willy, not emasculated, limp-wristed politically correct sissy boys.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 31, 2012, 02:41:41 PM
If Will's only understanding of the US is from the biased media, rap music, television and movies, of course he would think America is a fuckin battlefield. If he came here, he would probably wear kevlar :D
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 31, 2012, 02:58:16 PM
Jrome used to be a major nutrider, but i think he's gone through some life experiences, cuz that's my dude.. he's seen the light. will wont see it, cuz he lives in england and their government is clearly much better at fooling them than ours is.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on December 31, 2012, 03:00:39 PM
If Will's only understanding of the US is from the biased media, rap music, television and movies, of course he would think America is a fuckin battlefield. If he came here, he would probably wear kevlar :D


will wont come here in fear of getting shot... he probably plays grand theft auto while sippin tea and says to himself, "damn, america is fucking crazy, bloke!"
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Russell Bell on December 31, 2012, 03:46:15 PM
LMAO.

I imagine will and elano googling "america guns" and "kids with guns america" and being amazed at how all they see of the US is guns. 
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on January 01, 2013, 09:28:04 AM
If Will's only understanding of the US is from the biased media, rap music, television and movies, of course he would think America is a fuckin battlefield. If he came here, he would probably wear kevlar :D

My dude :)


So all those School Massacres didn't happen? :o
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on January 01, 2013, 02:01:17 PM
If Will's only understanding of the US is from the biased media, rap music, television and movies, of course he would think America is a fuckin battlefield. If he came here, he would probably wear kevlar :D

My dude :)


So all those School Massacres didn't happen? :o


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_school_massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungerford_massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumbria_shootings




I'm scared of the UK  :'(
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on January 01, 2013, 06:52:41 PM
^ LMAO
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: J. B A N A N A S on January 03, 2013, 07:46:46 PM
In America we use handguns if there's no clean silverware.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on January 04, 2013, 12:25:18 AM
In America we use handguns if there's no clean silverware.

LMAO!!
Title: For the conspiracy theorist! :)
Post by: Aladin on January 04, 2013, 03:04:10 AM
For those who love conspiracies  ;D



    As days have passed, key issues involving the Sandy Hook terror attack have been cited as "debunking" the "lone gunman" cover story.
    From a viral email that is growing every hour with more reasons to doubt the official story:
    According to the official story, Adam Lanza was found with his older brother's ID, and it was not stolen. However, older brother Ryan - whom officials say is very cooperative - claims not to have even seen his brother since 2010. Where would Adam get this ID? And why does such use not qualify as a theft?
    According to the official story, Adam Lanza was wearing a black outfit with a mask and bulletproof vest. Why would he want to hide his identity, and why would he wear a bulletproof vest if he planned to kill himself?
    The medical examiner asserts that all wounds were caused by a rifle or other long weapon, and police/FBI say that the school was littered with 223 (rifle) casings. However, Adam Lanza was found dead at the school with only handguns - a rifle was found in the trunk of his car. Then he could not have possibly been firing the rifle, and could not have committed the murders. Who did then?
    According to the official story, the killings was tightly confined to two classrooms. Then why were so many children told to close their eyes while leaving the building?
    Joanne Didonato, the principal's secretary, called in sick on Friday - something she rarely does. So presumably, she must have been awfully ill. Yet she then felt well enough to give an interview. "Of all days," she said, emphasizing the strange coincidence.
    Why were there such persistent reports that Mrs. Lanza was a kindergarten teacher, and that she died at the school when the new official story is that she was not connected to the school and was killed at home?
    What happened to the report that Adam Lanza's girlfriend and another friend were missing in New Jersey?
    What happened to the woodsman in a black jacket and camo pants who was arrested and handcuffed outside the school? He actually shouted to parents, "It wasn't me." Who was he and what was he doing there?
    What happened to the dark van or SUV that the police surrounded in the parking lot or the maroon sedan with a blown-out back window they were on the lookout for?
    The official story is that Nancy Lanza was a gun collector, who obeyed the law. But since 20-year-olds are not permitted to buy guns or ammo or carry guns in Connecticut, why would she give her "autistic" son access to both guns and ammo?
    A child asserts that he/she heard someone say, "Put your hands up," followed by the reply, "Don't shoot." This indicates that the police took a suspect into custody inside the school. But if that was Adam Lanza, how did he kill himself after that point?
    Another child asserts that he/she saw a man pinned down to the ground with handcuffs on. Again, this indicates that the police took a suspect into custody. If that was Adam Lanza, how did he then kill himself?
    Is it reasonable for a geeky 20-year-old to carry two pistols and hundreds of rounds of ammunition while wearing a bulletproof vest and a mask?
    Did the school have one or more security cameras? What do they show?
    Why did a police officer specifically mention on radio that "they're coming at me through this wood" followed by a fellow officer saying, "This is it"?
    One officer at the school said, "We've got one suspect down." Who was that? Down in this situation generally means in custody (on the ground and cuffed) not dead.
    Why is Adam Lanza reported to be a loner when a teenager said (oxymoronically), "[Lanza and his friends] always gathered alone in a corner in school"?
    Why are Ryan Lanza and his roommates still in custody, and why are the police pretending that it is for their own benefit?
    Is it a coincidence that Nancy Lanza's brother is Kingston Police Officer James Champion, who lives next door to the former Lanza home?
    Today, Fox News tells us that Adam Lanza had no history of mental illness, was not on any medication and had never been diagnosed:

    "Investigators searching the Connecticut home gunman Adam Lanza shared with his  mother, Nancy Lanza, seized cellphones, computers and computer games, but found  nothing at the residence to indicate he was taking medication. 
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on January 04, 2013, 03:24:19 AM
Lol why would he ware a mask or a vest?

Damn must be a conspiracy  ::)



Nik will love this doe
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on January 04, 2013, 12:19:47 PM
Lol why would he ware a mask or a vest?

Damn must be a conspiracy  ::)



Nik will love this doe

do u realize how much the government loves good lil boys like u?...again, not saying it's a guaranteed conspiracy, but to close it off as a possibility makes u a fuckin idiot.


For those who love conspiracies  ;D



    As days have passed, key issues involving the Sandy Hook terror attack have been cited as "debunking" the "lone gunman" cover story.
    From a viral email that is growing every hour with more reasons to doubt the official story:
    According to the official story, Adam Lanza was found with his older brother's ID, and it was not stolen. However, older brother Ryan - whom officials say is very cooperative - claims not to have even seen his brother since 2010. Where would Adam get this ID? And why does such use not qualify as a theft?
    According to the official story, Adam Lanza was wearing a black outfit with a mask and bulletproof vest. Why would he want to hide his identity, and why would he wear a bulletproof vest if he planned to kill himself?
    The medical examiner asserts that all wounds were caused by a rifle or other long weapon, and police/FBI say that the school was littered with 223 (rifle) casings. However, Adam Lanza was found dead at the school with only handguns - a rifle was found in the trunk of his car. Then he could not have possibly been firing the rifle, and could not have committed the murders. Who did then?
    According to the official story, the killings was tightly confined to two classrooms. Then why were so many children told to close their eyes while leaving the building?
    Joanne Didonato, the principal's secretary, called in sick on Friday - something she rarely does. So presumably, she must have been awfully ill. Yet she then felt well enough to give an interview. "Of all days," she said, emphasizing the strange coincidence.
    Why were there such persistent reports that Mrs. Lanza was a kindergarten teacher, and that she died at the school when the new official story is that she was not connected to the school and was killed at home?
    What happened to the report that Adam Lanza's girlfriend and another friend were missing in New Jersey?
    What happened to the woodsman in a black jacket and camo pants who was arrested and handcuffed outside the school? He actually shouted to parents, "It wasn't me." Who was he and what was he doing there?
    What happened to the dark van or SUV that the police surrounded in the parking lot or the maroon sedan with a blown-out back window they were on the lookout for?
    The official story is that Nancy Lanza was a gun collector, who obeyed the law. But since 20-year-olds are not permitted to buy guns or ammo or carry guns in Connecticut, why would she give her "autistic" son access to both guns and ammo?
    A child asserts that he/she heard someone say, "Put your hands up," followed by the reply, "Don't shoot." This indicates that the police took a suspect into custody inside the school. But if that was Adam Lanza, how did he kill himself after that point?
    Another child asserts that he/she saw a man pinned down to the ground with handcuffs on. Again, this indicates that the police took a suspect into custody. If that was Adam Lanza, how did he then kill himself?
    Is it reasonable for a geeky 20-year-old to carry two pistols and hundreds of rounds of ammunition while wearing a bulletproof vest and a mask?
    Did the school have one or more security cameras? What do they show?
    Why did a police officer specifically mention on radio that "they're coming at me through this wood" followed by a fellow officer saying, "This is it"?
    One officer at the school said, "We've got one suspect down." Who was that? Down in this situation generally means in custody (on the ground and cuffed) not dead.
    Why is Adam Lanza reported to be a loner when a teenager said (oxymoronically), "[Lanza and his friends] always gathered alone in a corner in school"?
    Why are Ryan Lanza and his roommates still in custody, and why are the police pretending that it is for their own benefit?
    Is it a coincidence that Nancy Lanza's brother is Kingston Police Officer James Champion, who lives next door to the former Lanza home?
    Today, Fox News tells us that Adam Lanza had no history of mental illness, was not on any medication and had never been diagnosed:

    "Investigators searching the Connecticut home gunman Adam Lanza shared with his  mother, Nancy Lanza, seized cellphones, computers and computer games, but found  nothing at the residence to indicate he was taking medication.  


to add to this article, read my initial post in this thread....the original story that leaked claimed there were TWO gunmen, and that they were still looking for the other. how do u mistake something like that? shit sounded fishy from the very jump.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Aladin on January 04, 2013, 03:41:46 PM
I also believe there is something fishy about it.
But some people come up with theories without facts.
Pointing their finger in a direction they cannot proof.

Then you will find yourself on thin ice.

I was speaking about these certain indivuduals, not you particulary.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on January 04, 2013, 04:02:24 PM
Oh God, this discussion is still going on?

Will, do you believe your government is looking out for your best interest at all times?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on January 05, 2013, 04:25:57 AM
Oh God, this discussion is still going on?

Will, do you believe your government is looking out for your best interest at all times?

Why is the issue of dead children in America constantly being flipped to what OG Will had for breakfast



No wonder public debate on the issue is getting nowhere
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Aladin on January 05, 2013, 07:17:53 AM
You've got to ask yourself, why the love affair with these deadly weapons in America.

A change in the law alone will help, but the people have to come out of their daydream on the issue for this to protect future generations.

DBA - what is it that you are so confident in your governement, that they will protect you.

What will you do if some burglar breaks into your house?
Call 911 (ther european version)?

Operator: Hello this is Emergency line, how can I help you?

DBA: Please! Help me! There is someone in my home!

Operator: Calm down sir, we will get you trough it. Is the man still there

DBA: Yes he has a gun, and is currently entering my girfriends room, Oh shit.

Operator: Calm sir, don't provoke him. Does he know you are there?

DBA: No, I am hiding, he has a gun, please send someone.

Operator: We will be sending someone, your position is pussydrive 10 in Cannottakecareofmyown

DBA: Yes, please hurry. Oh shit, he has my girfriend.. Oh shit please hurry. Oh no he is raping her, please oh shit

Operator: Calm down sir, help is on the way. Don't try  anything you will regrett

DBA: I can not do anything he has a gun, please hurry. He is raping her.
Oh shit she called me a coward. and told him where I was hiding. Hurry he is wlking towards me!

Operator: Calm down sir, help is underway, could you identify him.

DBA: Ahhhhhh.. Please don't hurt me... Ahhh

Operator: Sir? Sir!?

DBA: Ah Help me, help me. He is trying 2 rape me. You asshole!!

Operator: Sir don't provoke him! Stay calm!

DBA: ahhhh he stretching my ass, it's killing me.. ahhh..Hurry up you bitch.. where is the police!


Hahahahah LOL...
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on January 05, 2013, 07:32:57 AM
So your fear is of your government, intruders and anal rape?




Is there anything else you don't fear 24/7 lol


Do you constantly worry about bee stings, chili and peanut allergies, glutin, hoax lottery wins, phishing, zombie outbreaks, people spoiling film endings, peer pressure, black men dating your daughter etc etc


I bet you laugh when you don't get a joke at work too
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Aladin on January 05, 2013, 07:59:50 AM
LOL you missing the point dude.

To anwser you question:
I don't fear nobody, but God. The Creator, Sustainer, Lord of the worlds.

And  it is my God given right 2 be able 2 protect myself and my loved ones.

Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on January 05, 2013, 08:02:57 AM
LOL you missing the point dude.

To anwser you question:
I don't fear nobody, but God. The Creator, Sustainer, Lord of the worlds.

And  it is my God given right 2 be able 2 protect myself and my loved ones

So how are tighter gun regulations going to affect that?

Do you have a criminal record, drug habit or mental health problems?

What are you exactly afraid of?

EDIT: And it's not your god given right. What a ridiculous statement :D
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Black Excellence on January 05, 2013, 08:16:30 AM
fuck the bullshit. if i feel my life or fam is in jeopardy i'm goin' to protect mines by any means neccessary word to t.i.  ;D
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Aladin on January 05, 2013, 08:19:51 AM

EDIT: And it's not your god given right. What a ridiculous statement :D

My religion is the same religion as this Guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F3RaDNnLgA
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Black Excellence on January 05, 2013, 08:38:46 AM

EDIT: And it's not your god given right. What a ridiculous statement :D

My religion is the same religion as this Guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F3RaDNnLgA
8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: MistaNova on January 05, 2013, 09:14:20 AM
EDIT: And it's not your god given right. What a ridiculous statement :D

Actually being able to protect ourselves is a right from God.
Every animal on this planet (including humans) have natural instincts that kick in in moments of danger. Why do we have them if we don't have the right to use them?

If I didn't know any better I'd say the British are brain-washed to the point that they actually believe they're not allowed to use something called self-defence.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on January 05, 2013, 11:02:07 AM
Oh God, this discussion is still going on?

Will, do you believe your government is looking out for your best interest at all times?

Why is the issue of dead children in America constantly being flipped to what OG Will had for breakfast



No wonder public debate on the issue is getting nowhere



the fact that you keep failing to answer questions is enough to conclude that you've taken a major L in this thread...i'd avoid it from here on out if i was u. it's almost like a mini-exposure.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on January 05, 2013, 11:05:32 AM
So your fear is of your government, intruders and anal rape?




Is there anything else you don't fear 24/7 lol


Do you constantly worry about bee stings, chili and peanut allergies, glutin, hoax lottery wins, phishing, zombie outbreaks, people spoiling film endings, peer pressure, black men dating your daughter etc etc


I bet you laugh when you don't get a joke at work too


good lord :grumpy:



why couldn't it have been u instead of mike?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on January 05, 2013, 11:24:25 AM
EDIT: And it's not your god given right. What a ridiculous statement :D

Actually being able to protect ourselves is a right from God.
Every animal on this planet (including humans) have natural instincts that kick in in moments of danger. Why do we have them if we don't have the right to use them?

If I didn't know any better I'd say the British are brain-washed to the point that they actually believe they're not allowed to use something called self-defence.

God didn't make guns, or draft the 2 amendment.


This is fast turning into a circus
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on January 05, 2013, 12:16:23 PM
EDIT: And it's not your god given right. What a ridiculous statement :D

Actually being able to protect ourselves is a right from God.
Every animal on this planet (including humans) have natural instincts that kick in in moments of danger. Why do we have them if we don't have the right to use them?

If I didn't know any better I'd say the British are brain-washed to the point that they actually believe they're not allowed to use something called self-defence.

God didn't make guns, or draft the 2 amendment.


This is fast turning into a circus


God also didn't create laws that put other humans above us, sheepboy
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on January 05, 2013, 12:23:10 PM
EDIT: And it's not your god given right. What a ridiculous statement :D

Actually being able to protect ourselves is a right from God.
Every animal on this planet (including humans) have natural instincts that kick in in moments of danger. Why do we have them if we don't have the right to use them?

If I didn't know any better I'd say the British are brain-washed to the point that they actually believe they're not allowed to use something called self-defence.

God didn't make guns, or draft the 2 amendment.


This is fast turning into a circus


God also didn't create laws that put other humans above us, sheepboy

So by that you're saying democracy doesn't work.


What are you plans for the future?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on January 05, 2013, 12:33:47 PM
EDIT: And it's not your god given right. What a ridiculous statement :D

Actually being able to protect ourselves is a right from God.
Every animal on this planet (including humans) have natural instincts that kick in in moments of danger. Why do we have them if we don't have the right to use them?

If I didn't know any better I'd say the British are brain-washed to the point that they actually believe they're not allowed to use something called self-defence.

God didn't make guns, or draft the 2 amendment.


This is fast turning into a circus


God also didn't create laws that put other humans above us, sheepboy

So by that you're saying democracy doesn't work.


What are you plans for the future?


what do my plans for the future have to do with gun control, bloke? ur terrible at debating points....probably amongst the worst in dubcc history, and thats saying a lot. this is a worse look for u than when mike used to bully u around this board, straight up.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on January 05, 2013, 12:37:50 PM
EDIT: And it's not your god given right. What a ridiculous statement :D

Actually being able to protect ourselves is a right from God.
Every animal on this planet (including humans) have natural instincts that kick in in moments of danger. Why do we have them if we don't have the right to use them?

If I didn't know any better I'd say the British are brain-washed to the point that they actually believe they're not allowed to use something called self-defence.

God didn't make guns, or draft the 2 amendment.


This is fast turning into a circus


God also didn't create laws that put other humans above us, sheepboy

So by that you're saying democracy doesn't work.


What are you plans for the future?


what do my plans for the future have to do with gun control, bloke? ur terrible at debating points....probably amongst the worst in dubcc history, and thats saying a lot. this is a worse look for u than when mike used to bully u around this board, straight up.


So bringing God into a Gun debate is rational?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on January 05, 2013, 01:26:57 PM
EDIT: And it's not your god given right. What a ridiculous statement :D

Actually being able to protect ourselves is a right from God.
Every animal on this planet (including humans) have natural instincts that kick in in moments of danger. Why do we have them if we don't have the right to use them?

If I didn't know any better I'd say the British are brain-washed to the point that they actually believe they're not allowed to use something called self-defence.

God didn't make guns, or draft the 2 amendment.


This is fast turning into a circus


God also didn't create laws that put other humans above us, sheepboy

So by that you're saying democracy doesn't work.


What are you plans for the future?


what do my plans for the future have to do with gun control, bloke? ur terrible at debating points....probably amongst the worst in dubcc history, and thats saying a lot. this is a worse look for u than when mike used to bully u around this board, straight up.


So bringing God into a Gun debate is rational?


when in context, yes....you keep speaking out of context while defending the notion of others having absolute power over u, which makes u sound not only like a dependent pussy, but also like an idiot. no offense, i've never considered u a bad or irrational poster, but some of the general traits you've displayed in this thread have somewhat swayed that perception.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on January 05, 2013, 01:53:53 PM
EDIT: And it's not your god given right. What a ridiculous statement :D

Actually being able to protect ourselves is a right from God.
Every animal on this planet (including humans) have natural instincts that kick in in moments of danger. Why do we have them if we don't have the right to use them?

If I didn't know any better I'd say the British are brain-washed to the point that they actually believe they're not allowed to use something called self-defence.

God didn't make guns, or draft the 2 amendment.


This is fast turning into a circus


God also didn't create laws that put other humans above us, sheepboy

So by that you're saying democracy doesn't work.


What are you plans for the future?


what do my plans for the future have to do with gun control, bloke? ur terrible at debating points....probably amongst the worst in dubcc history, and thats saying a lot. this is a worse look for u than when mike used to bully u around this board, straight up.


So bringing God into a Gun debate is rational?


when in context, yes....you keep speaking out of context while defending the notion of others having absolute power over u

Where did I say that?

So lets say the government has power over you to not allow you to murder or rape someone.

Is that bad?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on January 05, 2013, 02:20:47 PM
EDIT: And it's not your god given right. What a ridiculous statement :D

Actually being able to protect ourselves is a right from God.
Every animal on this planet (including humans) have natural instincts that kick in in moments of danger. Why do we have them if we don't have the right to use them?

If I didn't know any better I'd say the British are brain-washed to the point that they actually believe they're not allowed to use something called self-defence.

God didn't make guns, or draft the 2 amendment.


This is fast turning into a circus


God also didn't create laws that put other humans above us, sheepboy

So by that you're saying democracy doesn't work.


What are you plans for the future?


what do my plans for the future have to do with gun control, bloke? ur terrible at debating points....probably amongst the worst in dubcc history, and thats saying a lot. this is a worse look for u than when mike used to bully u around this board, straight up.


So bringing God into a Gun debate is rational?


when in context, yes....you keep speaking out of context while defending the notion of others having absolute power over u

Where did I say that?

So lets say the government has power over you to not allow you to murder or rape someone.

Is that bad?


murder and rape is an obvious sin that should suffer consequences. owning a weapon is not. thats not a good comparison, will.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on January 05, 2013, 02:26:39 PM
EDIT: And it's not your god given right. What a ridiculous statement :D

Actually being able to protect ourselves is a right from God.
Every animal on this planet (including humans) have natural instincts that kick in in moments of danger. Why do we have them if we don't have the right to use them?

If I didn't know any better I'd say the British are brain-washed to the point that they actually believe they're not allowed to use something called self-defence.

God didn't make guns, or draft the 2 amendment.


This is fast turning into a circus


God also didn't create laws that put other humans above us, sheepboy

So by that you're saying democracy doesn't work.


What are you plans for the future?


what do my plans for the future have to do with gun control, bloke? ur terrible at debating points....probably amongst the worst in dubcc history, and thats saying a lot. this is a worse look for u than when mike used to bully u around this board, straight up.


So bringing God into a Gun debate is rational?


when in context, yes....you keep speaking out of context while defending the notion of others having absolute power over u

Where did I say that?

So lets say the government has power over you to not allow you to murder or rape someone.

Is that bad?


murder and rape is an obvious sin that should suffer consequences. owning a weapon is not. thats not a good comparison, will.

Nik this is hard, because you're kinda dumb sorry.

I meant the government has absolute power over you, like locking you up for murder. And I asked u is that bad. Absolute power being your choice of words.


I didn't mean owning a gun is a sin, and a similar thing to murder or rape. Maybe thats why you're getting so worked up, because you don't understand stuff so well.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on January 05, 2013, 02:32:26 PM
EDIT: And it's not your god given right. What a ridiculous statement :D

Actually being able to protect ourselves is a right from God.
Every animal on this planet (including humans) have natural instincts that kick in in moments of danger. Why do we have them if we don't have the right to use them?

If I didn't know any better I'd say the British are brain-washed to the point that they actually believe they're not allowed to use something called self-defence.

God didn't make guns, or draft the 2 amendment.


This is fast turning into a circus


God also didn't create laws that put other humans above us, sheepboy

So by that you're saying democracy doesn't work.


What are you plans for the future?


what do my plans for the future have to do with gun control, bloke? ur terrible at debating points....probably amongst the worst in dubcc history, and thats saying a lot. this is a worse look for u than when mike used to bully u around this board, straight up.


So bringing God into a Gun debate is rational?


when in context, yes....you keep speaking out of context while defending the notion of others having absolute power over u

Where did I say that?

So lets say the government has power over you to not allow you to murder or rape someone.

Is that bad?


murder and rape is an obvious sin that should suffer consequences. owning a weapon is not. thats not a good comparison, will.

Nik this is hard, because you're kinda dumb sorry.

I meant the government has absolute power over you, like locking you up for murder. And I asked u is that bad. Absolute power being your choice of words.


I didn't mean owning a gun is a sin, and a similar thing to murder or rape. Maybe thats why you're getting so worked up, because you don't understand stuff so well.



will...u calling someone dumb is like frank ocean calling someone gay. i think it's quite obvious to every last person in this thread that you're a total moron and a pussy with no mind of his own.


now go back and look up the definition of ABSOLUTE power, dumbshit
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on January 05, 2013, 02:35:47 PM
EDIT: And it's not your god given right. What a ridiculous statement :D

Actually being able to protect ourselves is a right from God.
Every animal on this planet (including humans) have natural instincts that kick in in moments of danger. Why do we have them if we don't have the right to use them?

If I didn't know any better I'd say the British are brain-washed to the point that they actually believe they're not allowed to use something called self-defence.

God didn't make guns, or draft the 2 amendment.


This is fast turning into a circus


God also didn't create laws that put other humans above us, sheepboy

So by that you're saying democracy doesn't work.


What are you plans for the future?


what do my plans for the future have to do with gun control, bloke? ur terrible at debating points....probably amongst the worst in dubcc history, and thats saying a lot. this is a worse look for u than when mike used to bully u around this board, straight up.


So bringing God into a Gun debate is rational?


when in context, yes....you keep speaking out of context while defending the notion of others having absolute power over u

Where did I say that?

So lets say the government has power over you to not allow you to murder or rape someone.

Is that bad?


murder and rape is an obvious sin that should suffer consequences. owning a weapon is not. thats not a good comparison, will.

Nik this is hard, because you're kinda dumb sorry.

I meant the government has absolute power over you, like locking you up for murder. And I asked u is that bad. Absolute power being your choice of words.


I didn't mean owning a gun is a sin, and a similar thing to murder or rape. Maybe thats why you're getting so worked up, because you don't understand stuff so well.



will...u calling someone dumb is like frank ocean calling someone gay. i think it's quite obvious to every last person in this thread that you're a total moron and a pussy with no mind of his own.


now go back and look up the definition of ABSOLUTE power, dumbshit

So you want to murder and rape (for example)?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on January 05, 2013, 02:36:20 PM
smfh :stupid:
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on January 05, 2013, 02:45:40 PM
smfh :stupid:

Yeah I bet your head does hurt.


Come to think of it, where did I say you should be locked up for legally owning a gun?

I mean, did you think I meant there should be police waiting outside the gun shop for you. Throwing you in jail with murderers and rapists.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on January 05, 2013, 04:15:51 PM
smfh :stupid:

Yeah I bet your head does hurt.


Come to think of it, where did I say you should be locked up for legally owning a gun?

I mean, did you think I meant there should be police waiting outside the gun shop for you. Throwing you in jail with murderers and rapists.

You compare the right to own a gun to the right to murder people.. Nuff said lad
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on January 05, 2013, 04:20:16 PM
smfh :stupid:

Yeah I bet your head does hurt.


Come to think of it, where did I say you should be locked up for legally owning a gun?

I mean, did you think I meant there should be police waiting outside the gun shop for you. Throwing you in jail with murderers and rapists.

You compare the right to own a gun to the right to murder people.. Nuff said lad

No, I don't. :D
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: MistaNova on January 06, 2013, 04:49:59 AM
God didn't make guns, or draft the 2 amendment.

God also didn't make iPods, cars or even fire. I guess we don't have a right to use those either.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on January 06, 2013, 05:20:14 AM
God didn't make guns, or draft the 2 amendment.

God also didn't make iPods, cars or even fire. I guess we don't have a right to use those either.

Wow u guys are somethin else. Step back, take a breath and reread.

Where did I say you have no right to a gun?

I mean really, Iveus you're the homie but emotions seem to run deep here.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: MistaNova on January 06, 2013, 05:55:06 AM
Wow u guys are somethin else. Step back, take a breath and reread.

Where did I say you have no right to a gun?

I mean really, Iveus you're the homie but emotions seem to run deep here.

You've been saying rights for guns should be stricter/taken away since this whole arguement started.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on January 06, 2013, 07:07:47 AM
Wow u guys are somethin else. Step back, take a breath and reread.

Where did I say you have no right to a gun?

I mean really, Iveus you're the homie but emotions seem to run deep here.

You've been saying rights for guns should be stricter/taken away since this whole arguement started.

Regulations mean some people can't get any gun they like (age/criminal records/licence getting revoked/mental health etc etc)

Gun clubs need to see liecence. Guns are kept safe, owners need a test (like a driving liecence) restrictions on buying large quantities of ammo etc

There are infinite options to improve the safety of innocents from harm, and educate owners and kids alike


But for some reason the reactions from people on the board seem to be between the extreme and outrage

Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on January 06, 2013, 02:20:45 PM
Wow u guys are somethin else. Step back, take a breath and reread.

Where did I say you have no right to a gun?

I mean really, Iveus you're the homie but emotions seem to run deep here.

You've been saying rights for guns should be stricter/taken away since this whole arguement started.

Regulations mean some people can't get any gun they like (age/criminal records/licence getting revoked/mental health etc etc)

Gun clubs need to see liecence. Guns are kept safe, owners need a test (like a driving liecence) restrictions on buying large quantities of ammo etc

There are infinite options to improve the safety of innocents from harm, and educate owners and kids alike


But for some reason the reactions from people on the board seem to be between the extreme and outrage




the problem is that you're acting like you're dumb enough to believe that more regulations would mean stuff like this wouldn't happen. if someone was truly insane enough to pull off this sort of massacre, they would do it whether it was legal or not LOL
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on January 07, 2013, 12:37:10 AM
Wow u guys are somethin else. Step back, take a breath and reread.

Where did I say you have no right to a gun?

I mean really, Iveus you're the homie but emotions seem to run deep here.

You've been saying rights for guns should be stricter/taken away since this whole arguement started.

Regulations mean some people can't get any gun they like (age/criminal records/licence getting revoked/mental health etc etc)

Gun clubs need to see liecence. Guns are kept safe, owners need a test (like a driving liecence) restrictions on buying large quantities of ammo etc

There are infinite options to improve the safety of innocents from harm, and educate owners and kids alike


But for some reason the reactions from people on the board seem to be between the extreme and outrage




the problem is that you're acting like you're dumb enough to believe that more regulations would mean stuff like this wouldn't happen. if someone was truly insane enough to pull off this sort of massacre, they would do it whether it was legal or not LOL

Did u read any of the statistics M Dogg posted?

At least 20+ people shot dead New Year's Day across America

And kids I think as young as 2 shooting themselves dead because the parent left the gun down the side of the couch. Kids are dying in accidents like this all the time, but u still say there's no room for change. That's the joke ;)
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on January 07, 2013, 02:43:13 PM
Wow u guys are somethin else. Step back, take a breath and reread.

Where did I say you have no right to a gun?

I mean really, Iveus you're the homie but emotions seem to run deep here.

You've been saying rights for guns should be stricter/taken away since this whole arguement started.

Regulations mean some people can't get any gun they like (age/criminal records/licence getting revoked/mental health etc etc)

Gun clubs need to see liecence. Guns are kept safe, owners need a test (like a driving liecence) restrictions on buying large quantities of ammo etc

There are infinite options to improve the safety of innocents from harm, and educate owners and kids alike


But for some reason the reactions from people on the board seem to be between the extreme and outrage




the problem is that you're acting like you're dumb enough to believe that more regulations would mean stuff like this wouldn't happen. if someone was truly insane enough to pull off this sort of massacre, they would do it whether it was legal or not LOL

Did u read any of the statistics M Dogg posted?

At least 20+ people shot dead New Year's Day across America

And kids I think as young as 2 shooting themselves dead because the parent left the gun down the side of the couch. Kids are dying in accidents like this all the time, but u still say there's no room for change. That's the joke ;)


again, missing the point....first, u act like ur for banning guns. then u say u only want heavier restrictions, not an all out ban. if there were only heavier restrictions, how would that prevent 2 year olds from shooting themselves with their parents gun? surely, access would still be granted to those parents, so it would make absolutely no difference. and if 20+ people were shot dead in america on new years, it woulda been 40+ if guns were banned, plus a 10x rise in home invasions, muggings, robberies, etc. ur argument has a lot of holes that need patching, willard.


Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: M Dogg™ on January 17, 2013, 01:23:46 PM
Quote
I dont see enough evidence to think Sandy Hook was a false flag operation. This is more of a tragic event turned into political opportunity than it is a staged event. Was there investigative bungling and the sensationalist media reporting unverified stories? Yes. Was there confusion and were facts lost and gained in that confusion? Yes. Are there people, even witnesses, looking for their 30 seconds in the spotlight? Yes. Are there individuals and institutions using and shaping this event for their own political agendas? Yes, and we must keep a very watchful eye on those institutions to keep them from twisting the facts of this event. Sadly, everything I mentioned above can, when taken out of context, make one think manipulation is afoot. Most chaotic events can come across that way. In examining the event, I don't see government hands at work mainly because they would have covered their tracks better. We can't expect them to pull off elaborately planned hoaxes while at the same time leaving behind so many easy "smoking guns" for us to find. It took years for independent investigators to uncover JFK. It took years for us to begin scratching out the truth about 9/11. Those of us who study real history, not state sanctioned history, can very easily become just as close minded and biased for conspiracy as those who stand in our way and refuse to accept the truth about our government and the people running it. It's very easy to fall into that trap, especially when knowing how much of our history and world events are not what they appear to be. So please, do not immediately jump up and yell "Fire!" just because someone makes a youtube video. Research, research, research. You only hurt our cause by promoting false conspiracies and crackpot agendas. Much like the Birther conspiracy, I am starting to think that a lot of the so called "evidence" of conspiracy coming out about Sandy Hook is designed and fabricated to make us "conspiracy theorists", us truth seekers, look foolish. Why? So that when good people argue against the destruction of our Second Amendment they can easily be painted with the "crackpot" brush.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Chamillitary Click on January 21, 2013, 08:10:35 PM
I kinda feel bad for Will at this point. Gun accidents with children happen due to parental negligence. And why do you act like guns are the only means of murder. Even if there is just one person per state that was psycho enough to kill someone randomly on New Years. That could be 50 deaths via a wrench to the back of the head. Should we outlaw construction tools too?

The perfect example is on the same day as this, a guy in China killed even more kids in a school with a knife. What more do you need to read to understand that if someone is determined enough, not having a gun won't prevent them from killing someone.

I bet prior to Columbine you never even thought of things of this nature. Then the government whips together a bunch of shootings in a row and they got you and millions of people screaming for no guns. But prior to that we went hundreds of years without a thought of it.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: M Dogg™ on January 21, 2013, 08:24:11 PM
In China, actually 23 where stabbed, but no one died. Don't mislead.

Fact is people, due to the bad gun laws of the sixties, can't handle guns. The best thing is to make sure people are trained before they buy a gun.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on January 21, 2013, 10:24:37 PM
why couldn't it have been u instead of mike?
lmao

Its been like a week or 2 and Will still hasn't answered my question. I'm starting to feel bad you, Will. You're a decent guy, but you're coming off as very ill-informed here.

But back to the subject at hand: the pussy liberal God Obama introduced a gun law. It limits the size of magazines. Big whoop. So instead of carrying one weapon with more rounds, I can carry two separate weapons with the same amount of rounds total......you know, like how the Virginia Tech shooter did it?

No proof this bill would prevent a mass shooting.

No proof this bill would help keep guns out of "bad" people's hands.

It merely further restricts the rights of registered gun owners who are for the most part responsible and careful with their arms. But guess what: babies are still gonna get shot in drive-bys by gangs, people are still gonna get held up with stolen weapons and someone that still wants to buy banana clips can buy them off the street.

Are you all happy now?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on January 21, 2013, 11:32:01 PM
why couldn't it have been u instead of mike?
lmao

Its been like a week or 2 and Will still hasn't answered my question. I'm starting to feel bad you, Will. You're a decent guy, but you're coming off as very ill-informed here.

But back to the subject at hand: the pussy liberal God Obama introduced a gun law. It limits the size of magazines. Big whoop. So instead of carrying one weapon with more rounds, I can carry two separate weapons with the same amount of rounds total......you know, like how the Virginia Tech shooter did it?

No proof this bill would prevent a mass shooting.

No proof this bill would help keep guns out of "bad" people's hands.

It merely further restricts the rights of registered gun owners who are for the most part responsible and careful with their arms. But guess what: babies are still gonna get shot in drive-bys by gangs, people are still gonna get held up with stolen weapons and someone that still wants to buy banana clips can buy them off the street.

Are you all happy now?


So you think 'no action' would've been the better option? Act like nothing happened...?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on January 21, 2013, 11:41:25 PM
This action is completely worthless. It prevents absolutely nothing. So in this particular case: it would've been better off not reacting in this manner. Something bad happens so you punish the responsible gun owners who are least likely to jeopardize their 2nd amendment right? Government incompetency at its finest.

Analogy: This is like if I were trying to stop people from eating unhealthy. I limit you to only buying 1 hamburger from a McDonald's location. Only thing is, there's a McDonald's on every other block (at least in Murica) and you can still get as much unhealthy shit food as you want. It's a slight inconvenience, but it stops nothing if someone is determined enough to cause harm (in this case, to themselves).

If you're going to make a law, at least make it effective. I think the majority of us in this thread could of come up with a better alternative.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Russell Bell on January 22, 2013, 12:34:55 AM
why couldn't it have been u instead of mike?
lmao

Its been like a week or 2 and Will still hasn't answered my question. I'm starting to feel bad you, Will. You're a decent guy, but you're coming off as very ill-informed here.

But back to the subject at hand: the pussy liberal God Obama introduced a gun law. It limits the size of magazines. Big whoop. So instead of carrying one weapon with more rounds, I can carry two separate weapons with the same amount of rounds total......you know, like how the Virginia Tech shooter did it?

No proof this bill would prevent a mass shooting.

No proof this bill would help keep guns out of "bad" people's hands.

It merely further restricts the rights of registered gun owners who are for the most part responsible and careful with their arms. But guess what: babies are still gonna get shot in drive-bys by gangs, people are still gonna get held up with stolen weapons and someone that still wants to buy banana clips can buy them off the street.

Are you all happy now?


So you think 'no action' would've been the better option? Act like nothing happened...?

Are you admitting that its all about the "perception" and not the reality of these laws?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on January 22, 2013, 01:32:37 AM
This action is completely worthless. It prevents absolutely nothing. So in this particular case: it would've been better off not reacting in this manner. Something bad happens so you punish the responsible gun owners who are least likely to jeopardize their 2nd amendment right? Government incompetency at its finest.

Analogy: This is like if I were trying to stop people from eating unhealthy. I limit you to only buying 1 hamburger from a McDonald's location. Only thing is, there's a McDonald's on every other block (at least in Murica) and you can still get as much unhealthy shit food as you want. It's a slight inconvenience, but it stops nothing if someone is determined enough to cause harm (in this case, to themselves).

If you're going to make a law, at least make it effective. I think the majority of us in this thread could of come up with a better alternative.

So inaction isn't the key. At least we're making progress here !!
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: M Dogg™ on January 22, 2013, 09:12:26 AM
why couldn't it have been u instead of mike?
lmao

Its been like a week or 2 and Will still hasn't answered my question. I'm starting to feel bad you, Will. You're a decent guy, but you're coming off as very ill-informed here.

But back to the subject at hand: the pussy liberal God Obama introduced a gun law. It limits the size of magazines. Big whoop. So instead of carrying one weapon with more rounds, I can carry two separate weapons with the same amount of rounds total......you know, like how the Virginia Tech shooter did it?

No proof this bill would prevent a mass shooting.

No proof this bill would help keep guns out of "bad" people's hands.

It merely further restricts the rights of registered gun owners who are for the most part responsible and careful with their arms. But guess what: babies are still gonna get shot in drive-bys by gangs, people are still gonna get held up with stolen weapons and someone that still wants to buy banana clips can buy them off the street.

Are you all happy now?

Yes, yes I am happy... LOL


As I have said hundreds of times... this is what needs to be address...

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-10-08/justice/gun.soccer.mom.dead_1_deleo-neighbor-second-amendment?_s=PM:CRIME

She should have had a gun.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on January 22, 2013, 12:55:47 PM
This action is completely worthless. It prevents absolutely nothing. So in this particular case: it would've been better off not reacting in this manner. Something bad happens so you punish the responsible gun owners who are least likely to jeopardize their 2nd amendment right? Government incompetency at its finest.

Analogy: This is like if I were trying to stop people from eating unhealthy. I limit you to only buying 1 hamburger from a McDonald's location. Only thing is, there's a McDonald's on every other block (at least in Murica) and you can still get as much unhealthy shit food as you want. It's a slight inconvenience, but it stops nothing if someone is determined enough to cause harm (in this case, to themselves).

If you're going to make a law, at least make it effective. I think the majority of us in this thread could of come up with a better alternative.

So inaction isn't the key. At least we're making progress here !!
Of course inaction is not the key. But passing a bullshit law isn't the right thing either. As a matter of fact, passing some BS worthless law is just the easy way out of a true solution for politicians.

If people focused more on the real issue, which is a societal issue, instead of blaming this problem all on the guns, then maybe we would be making some actual progress. But let's just keep focusing on guns and punishing a segment of the population who had nothing to do with a mass shooting of a drive-by. Yeah.......that'll take care of the problem.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on January 22, 2013, 01:00:36 PM
why couldn't it have been u instead of mike?
lmao

Its been like a week or 2 and Will still hasn't answered my question. I'm starting to feel bad you, Will. You're a decent guy, but you're coming off as very ill-informed here.

But back to the subject at hand: the pussy liberal God Obama introduced a gun law. It limits the size of magazines. Big whoop. So instead of carrying one weapon with more rounds, I can carry two separate weapons with the same amount of rounds total......you know, like how the Virginia Tech shooter did it?

No proof this bill would prevent a mass shooting.

No proof this bill would help keep guns out of "bad" people's hands.

It merely further restricts the rights of registered gun owners who are for the most part responsible and careful with their arms. But guess what: babies are still gonna get shot in drive-bys by gangs, people are still gonna get held up with stolen weapons and someone that still wants to buy banana clips can buy them off the street.

Are you all happy now?

Yes, yes I am happy... LOL


As I have said hundreds of times... this is what needs to be address...

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-10-08/justice/gun.soccer.mom.dead_1_deleo-neighbor-second-amendment?_s=PM:CRIME

She should have had a gun.
How would the new laws proposed by the Obama administration have prevented this from happening?
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on January 22, 2013, 01:01:54 PM
This action is completely worthless. It prevents absolutely nothing. So in this particular case: it would've been better off not reacting in this manner. Something bad happens so you punish the responsible gun owners who are least likely to jeopardize their 2nd amendment right? Government incompetency at its finest.

Analogy: This is like if I were trying to stop people from eating unhealthy. I limit you to only buying 1 hamburger from a McDonald's location. Only thing is, there's a McDonald's on every other block (at least in Murica) and you can still get as much unhealthy shit food as you want. It's a slight inconvenience, but it stops nothing if someone is determined enough to cause harm (in this case, to themselves).

If you're going to make a law, at least make it effective. I think the majority of us in this thread could of come up with a better alternative.

So inaction isn't the key. At least we're making progress here !!
Of course inaction is not the key. But passing a bullshit law isn't the right thing either. As a matter of fact, passing some BS worthless law is just the easy way out of a true solution for politicians.

If people focused more on the real issue, which is a societal issue, instead of blaming this problem all on the guns, then maybe we would be making some actual progress. But let's just keep focusing on guns and punishing a segment of the population who had nothing to do with a mass shooting of a drive-by. Yeah.......that'll take care of the problem.

lmfao@"were making progress here !!"...smfh
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sccit on January 22, 2013, 01:02:51 PM
why couldn't it have been u instead of mike?
lmao

Its been like a week or 2 and Will still hasn't answered my question. I'm starting to feel bad you, Will. You're a decent guy, but you're coming off as very ill-informed here.

But back to the subject at hand: the pussy liberal God Obama introduced a gun law. It limits the size of magazines. Big whoop. So instead of carrying one weapon with more rounds, I can carry two separate weapons with the same amount of rounds total......you know, like how the Virginia Tech shooter did it?

No proof this bill would prevent a mass shooting.

No proof this bill would help keep guns out of "bad" people's hands.

It merely further restricts the rights of registered gun owners who are for the most part responsible and careful with their arms. But guess what: babies are still gonna get shot in drive-bys by gangs, people are still gonna get held up with stolen weapons and someone that still wants to buy banana clips can buy them off the street.

Are you all happy now?

Yes, yes I am happy... LOL


As I have said hundreds of times... this is what needs to be address...

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-10-08/justice/gun.soccer.mom.dead_1_deleo-neighbor-second-amendment?_s=PM:CRIME

She should have had a gun.
How would the new laws proposed by the Obama administration have prevented this from happening?


naah, he's sayin she shoulda had her gun....this is the soccer mom who was stripped of her right to own a gun, and this was the outcome.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on January 22, 2013, 01:20:25 PM
This action is completely worthless. It prevents absolutely nothing. So in this particular case: it would've been better off not reacting in this manner. Something bad happens so you punish the responsible gun owners who are least likely to jeopardize their 2nd amendment right? Government incompetency at its finest.

Analogy: This is like if I were trying to stop people from eating unhealthy. I limit you to only buying 1 hamburger from a McDonald's location. Only thing is, there's a McDonald's on every other block (at least in Murica) and you can still get as much unhealthy shit food as you want. It's a slight inconvenience, but it stops nothing if someone is determined enough to cause harm (in this case, to themselves).

If you're going to make a law, at least make it effective. I think the majority of us in this thread could of come up with a better alternative.

So inaction isn't the key. At least we're making progress here !!
Of course inaction is not the key. But passing a bullshit law isn't the right thing either. As a matter of fact, passing some BS worthless law is just the easy way out of a true solution for politicians.

If people focused more on the real issue, which is a societal issue, instead of blaming this problem all on the guns, then maybe we would be making some actual progress. But let's just keep focusing on guns and punishing a segment of the population who had nothing to do with a mass shooting of a drive-by. Yeah.......that'll take care of the problem.

You can't just reeducate and rehabilitate a nation overnight.

I imagine this is a small part of a much bigger plan - to get the people used to change.



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Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: M Dogg™ on January 22, 2013, 02:08:11 PM
why couldn't it have been u instead of mike?
lmao

Its been like a week or 2 and Will still hasn't answered my question. I'm starting to feel bad you, Will. You're a decent guy, but you're coming off as very ill-informed here.

But back to the subject at hand: the pussy liberal God Obama introduced a gun law. It limits the size of magazines. Big whoop. So instead of carrying one weapon with more rounds, I can carry two separate weapons with the same amount of rounds total......you know, like how the Virginia Tech shooter did it?

No proof this bill would prevent a mass shooting.

No proof this bill would help keep guns out of "bad" people's hands.

It merely further restricts the rights of registered gun owners who are for the most part responsible and careful with their arms. But guess what: babies are still gonna get shot in drive-bys by gangs, people are still gonna get held up with stolen weapons and someone that still wants to buy banana clips can buy them off the street.

Are you all happy now?

Yes, yes I am happy... LOL


As I have said hundreds of times... this is what needs to be address...

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-10-08/justice/gun.soccer.mom.dead_1_deleo-neighbor-second-amendment?_s=PM:CRIME

She should have had a gun.
How would the new laws proposed by the Obama administration have prevented this from happening?


naah, he's sayin she shoulda had her gun....this is the soccer mom who was stripped of her right to own a gun, and this was the outcome.

Though she was shot and killed in 2009, before she was stripped of her right.


My point is that we have to look at who is owning the damn guns. It is not guns that are the problem, but the people that are drawn to buy guns right now are the problem. Our culture has made gun ownership go into two direction, either you are a older person who knows what they are doing, or you are a dump parent who leaves loaded guns around the house. Straight up, people have a problem with guns, and it's themselves. No law that Obama has, or even can pass, can change that. Magazine clip laws are made to make mass shootings harder, but not impossible. That's the best Obama can do. It's up to local government to do the rest, but local government is scared to act.

If local governments had BALLS, they'd pass license laws that would require people to take classes and go through training before owning a gun. The fact that dump people own guns really pisses me off.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on January 22, 2013, 02:28:09 PM
why couldn't it have been u instead of mike?
lmao

Its been like a week or 2 and Will still hasn't answered my question. I'm starting to feel bad you, Will. You're a decent guy, but you're coming off as very ill-informed here.

But back to the subject at hand: the pussy liberal God Obama introduced a gun law. It limits the size of magazines. Big whoop. So instead of carrying one weapon with more rounds, I can carry two separate weapons with the same amount of rounds total......you know, like how the Virginia Tech shooter did it?

No proof this bill would prevent a mass shooting.

No proof this bill would help keep guns out of "bad" people's hands.

It merely further restricts the rights of registered gun owners who are for the most part responsible and careful with their arms. But guess what: babies are still gonna get shot in drive-bys by gangs, people are still gonna get held up with stolen weapons and someone that still wants to buy banana clips can buy them off the street.

Are you all happy now?

Yes, yes I am happy... LOL


As I have said hundreds of times... this is what needs to be address...

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-10-08/justice/gun.soccer.mom.dead_1_deleo-neighbor-second-amendment?_s=PM:CRIME

She should have had a gun.
How would the new laws proposed by the Obama administration have prevented this from happening?


naah, he's sayin she shoulda had her gun....this is the soccer mom who was stripped of her right to own a gun, and this was the outcome.
Yeah, that shit went right over my head. I get it now.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Sikotic™ on January 22, 2013, 02:34:00 PM
This action is completely worthless. It prevents absolutely nothing. So in this particular case: it would've been better off not reacting in this manner. Something bad happens so you punish the responsible gun owners who are least likely to jeopardize their 2nd amendment right? Government incompetency at its finest.

Analogy: This is like if I were trying to stop people from eating unhealthy. I limit you to only buying 1 hamburger from a McDonald's location. Only thing is, there's a McDonald's on every other block (at least in Murica) and you can still get as much unhealthy shit food as you want. It's a slight inconvenience, but it stops nothing if someone is determined enough to cause harm (in this case, to themselves).

If you're going to make a law, at least make it effective. I think the majority of us in this thread could of come up with a better alternative.

So inaction isn't the key. At least we're making progress here !!
Of course inaction is not the key. But passing a bullshit law isn't the right thing either. As a matter of fact, passing some BS worthless law is just the easy way out of a true solution for politicians.

If people focused more on the real issue, which is a societal issue, instead of blaming this problem all on the guns, then maybe we would be making some actual progress. But let's just keep focusing on guns and punishing a segment of the population who had nothing to do with a mass shooting of a drive-by. Yeah.......that'll take care of the problem.

You can't just reeducate and rehabilitate a nation overnight.

I imagine this is a small part of a much bigger plan - to get the people used to change.



Like me showing u how to fold paper

Next week we make an airplane :heart:
Well, I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but I agree with you that an issue can't be solved overnight and its not that simple.
Title: Re: 27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
Post by: Will_B on January 22, 2013, 02:37:40 PM
This action is completely worthless. It prevents absolutely nothing. So in this particular case: it would've been better off not reacting in this manner. Something bad happens so you punish the responsible gun owners who are least likely to jeopardize their 2nd amendment right? Government incompetency at its finest.

Analogy: This is like if I were trying to stop people from eating unhealthy. I limit you to only buying 1 hamburger from a McDonald's location. Only thing is, there's a McDonald's on every other block (at least in Murica) and you can still get as much unhealthy shit food as you want. It's a slight inconvenience, but it stops nothing if someone is determined enough to cause harm (in this case, to themselves).

If you're going to make a law, at least make it effective. I think the majority of us in this thread could of come up with a better alternative.

So inaction isn't the key. At least we're making progress here !!
Of course inaction is not the key. But passing a bullshit law isn't the right thing either. As a matter of fact, passing some BS worthless law is just the easy way out of a true solution for politicians.

If people focused more on the real issue, which is a societal issue, instead of blaming this problem all on the guns, then maybe we would be making some actual progress. But let's just keep focusing on guns and punishing a segment of the population who had nothing to do with a mass shooting of a drive-by. Yeah.......that'll take care of the problem.

You can't just reeducate and rehabilitate a nation overnight.

I imagine this is a small part of a much bigger plan - to get the people used to change.



Like me showing u how to fold paper

Next week we make an airplane :heart:
Well, I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but I agree with you that an issue can't be solved overnight and its not that simple.

All good I was being serious. That last bit was a joke btw