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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 22, 2012, 12:55:48 PM
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fuck all these ban-firearms laws and everything that's under that umbrella. I hope Diane Feinstein croaks asap, that bitch done lost her mind.
the good thing is I think the public is smarter than this. My faith in humans is very low and very shakey but theres atleast a teeny possibility that the people wont let this Gun-Ban shit slide
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I considered doing the same. But then I just decided to keep the money myself.
On a related note why do people vote for these elderly people? Feinstein is 79. Three senators are in their 80s, 24 are in their 70s. They've got a shitload of power but are they even in touch with reality anymore?
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Nah, I can't support the NRA for doing rallies in the cities where mass murders went down due to guns just days after the shootings took place. I agree with a lot of their stances, but as an organization they can go fuck themselves.
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On a related note why do people vote for these elderly people? Feinstein is 79. Three senators are in their 80s, 24 are in their 70s. They've got a shitload of power but are they even in touch with reality anymore?
So tru. I remebered when Luke Russert asked Nancy Pelosi about that type of shit and she brushed it off as a disrespectful joke. I actually thought it was a good question. The age old expression "with age comes wisdom" is so very very true but that doesnt mean all of our Senators and House Reps and etc should be Grandma & Grandpa. There's just certain things that u lose touch with when time goes on. I dont watch Lil'Looney Toones anymore but back in tha day u couldnt take my eyes off the TV for nothin [shot out to Recess]
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I agree with a lot of their stances, but as an organization they can go fuck themselves.
Absolutely. Thats why i put support"ing" instead of just simply support lol. But i do thank them for fighting for anti-gun laws tho.
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Nah, I can't support the NRA for doing rallies in the cities where mass murders went down due to guns just days after the shootings took place. I agree with a lot of their stances, but as an organization they can go fuck themselves.
Wise words. As most of the times, for them it's not about the cause, it's about money and power. And bitches, of course (no Lox).
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Nah, I can't support the NRA for doing rallies in the cities where mass murders went down due to guns just days after the shootings took place. I agree with a lot of their stances, but as an organization they can go fuck themselves.
Wise words. As most of the times, for them it's not about the cause, it's about money and power. And bitches, of course (no Lox).
That could be said about any and every organization. But besides being after the "Scarface" trinity of money, power, and women they are also actively involved in firearm issues. Including things like promoting firearm safety. And more so than any other organization in the world. Sometimes in misguided ways maybe, but still.
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Nah, I can't support the NRA for doing rallies in the cities where mass murders went down due to guns just days after the shootings took place. I agree with a lot of their stances, but as an organization they can go fuck themselves.
Wise words. As most of the times, for them it's not about the cause, it's about money and power. And bitches, of course (no Lox).
That could be said about any and every organization. But besides being after the "Scarface" trinity of money, power, and women they are also actively involved in firearm issues. Including things like promoting firearm safety. And more so than any other organization in the world. Sometimes in misguided ways maybe, but still.
AND promoting firearms! It's not about guns being the reason for all the violence that's happening but I don't feel firearms itselves are a particularly helpful item to involve into any conflict. What I mean is that an organisation, whose only focus are guns, might have some aspects to it that aren't that bad. But no matter if it's gun safety or whatever, in the end it's about promoting guns (Along with the "Scarface Trinity", but I'd rather see that trinity internalized in an organisation like Doctors Without Borders than in the fucking NRA). See where I'm coming from?
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Nah, I can't support the NRA for doing rallies in the cities where mass murders went down due to guns just days after the shootings took place. I agree with a lot of their stances, but as an organization they can go fuck themselves.
Wise words. As most of the times, for them it's not about the cause, it's about money and power. And bitches, of course (no Lox).
That could be said about any and every organization. But besides being after the "Scarface" trinity of money, power, and women they are also actively involved in firearm issues. Including things like promoting firearm safety. And more so than any other organization in the world. Sometimes in misguided ways maybe, but still.
AND promoting firearms! It's not about guns being the reason for all the violence that's happening but I don't feel firearms itselves are a particularly helpful item to involve into any conflict. What I mean is that an organisation, whose only focus are guns, might have some aspects to it that aren't that bad. But no matter if it's gun safety or whatever, in the end it's about promoting guns (Along with the "Scarface Trinity", but I'd rather see that trinity internalized in an organisation like Doctors Without Borders than in the fucking NRA). See where I'm coming from?
You are free to be opposed to their views. But to state that they aren't about the cause they claim, which is promoting firearms yeah, like you did in the first post is a fallacy.
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Nah, I can't support the NRA for doing rallies in the cities where mass murders went down due to guns just days after the shootings took place. I agree with a lot of their stances, but as an organization they can go fuck themselves.
Wise words. As most of the times, for them it's not about the cause, it's about money and power. And bitches, of course (no Lox).
That could be said about any and every organization. But besides being after the "Scarface" trinity of money, power, and women they are also actively involved in firearm issues. Including things like promoting firearm safety. And more so than any other organization in the world. Sometimes in misguided ways maybe, but still.
AND promoting firearms! It's not about guns being the reason for all the violence that's happening but I don't feel firearms itselves are a particularly helpful item to involve into any conflict. What I mean is that an organisation, whose only focus are guns, might have some aspects to it that aren't that bad. But no matter if it's gun safety or whatever, in the end it's about promoting guns (Along with the "Scarface Trinity", but I'd rather see that trinity internalized in an organisation like Doctors Without Borders than in the fucking NRA). See where I'm coming from?
You are free to be opposed to their views. But to state that they aren't about the cause they claim, which is promoting firearms yeah, like you did in the first post is a fallacy.
Didn't say that. I thought I was more precise in my second post which said: "But no matter if it's gun safety or whatever, in the end it's about promoting guns (Along with the "Scarface Trinity", but I'd rather see that trinity internalized in an organisation like Doctors Without Borders than in the fucking NRA)." Cuz no matter what the motivation of the organisation's members might be, the organisation itself is still about promoting guns, which I don't think is a very desirable goal in itself.
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Nah, I can't support the NRA for doing rallies in the cities where mass murders went down due to guns just days after the shootings took place. I agree with a lot of their stances, but as an organization they can go fuck themselves.
Wise words. As most of the times, for them it's not about the cause, it's about money and power. And bitches, of course (no Lox).
That could be said about any and every organization. But besides being after the "Scarface" trinity of money, power, and women they are also actively involved in firearm issues. Including things like promoting firearm safety. And more so than any other organization in the world. Sometimes in misguided ways maybe, but still.
AND promoting firearms! It's not about guns being the reason for all the violence that's happening but I don't feel firearms itselves are a particularly helpful item to involve into any conflict. What I mean is that an organisation, whose only focus are guns, might have some aspects to it that aren't that bad. But no matter if it's gun safety or whatever, in the end it's about promoting guns (Along with the "Scarface Trinity", but I'd rather see that trinity internalized in an organisation like Doctors Without Borders than in the fucking NRA). See where I'm coming from?
You are free to be opposed to their views. But to state that they aren't about the cause they claim, which is promoting firearms yeah, like you did in the first post is a fallacy.
Didn't say that. I thought I was more precise in my second post which said: "But no matter if it's gun safety or whatever, in the end it's about promoting guns (Along with the "Scarface Trinity", but I'd rather see that trinity internalized in an organisation like Doctors Without Borders than in the fucking NRA)." Cuz no matter what the motivation of the organisation's members might be, the organisation itself is still about promoting guns, which I don't think is a very desirable goal in itself.
OK. Sorry I misunderstood you the first time round. I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death (with firearms) your right to say it.
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i hope Pierre Es Cargo keeps it trill tomorrow on MTP. lord knows David Gregory's ass will put u back to sleep but i hop Mr. Rifle Man does a good deed and helps end this "anti-auto-gun" shit. if not, fml and yours and all of our offspring's legacies to come
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The NRA can go fuck itself but I am very pro gun. If when I move back to CA a registry is required you can bet I'm not declaring anything.
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The gun debate is crazy right now.
Ive got a question for all you cupcake Euros who think the Queen knows best - How did the Assault Rifles Ban of 1994 effect the Columbine Incident?
I'll wait...
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The gun debate is crazy right now.
Ive got a question for all you cupcake Euros who think the Queen knows best - How did the Assault Rifles Ban of 1994 effect the Columbine Incident?
I'll wait...
It didn't. But then again I'm not for an assault rifle ban. I am for a licensing process in which before anyone buys a gun, they must prove they can take care of one and they have the proper training to carry one. Many people leave loaded guns around their house and their kids get to them. I had a friend die from a mom who left a loaded shot gun out, and the statistics of children who die in home accidents is just crazy. If a licensing process saves one kid, if it educates gun owners about the true dangers of guns, then it would have worked.
Now in terms of the Assault Rifles ban, England has outlawed assault rifles and hand guns for almost 2 decades, and no one has invaded them yet. So far they have had all the benefits and none of the negatives that we as Americans fear. I personally don't support the US adopting that policy, but it can be argued that we'd be better off if we did.
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The gun debate is crazy right now.
Ive got a question for all you cupcake Euros who think the Queen knows best - How did the Assault Rifles Ban of 1994 effect the Columbine Incident?
I'll wait...
It didn't. But then again I'm not for an assault rifle ban. I am for a licensing process in which before anyone buys a gun, they must prove they can take care of one and they have the proper training to carry one. Many people leave loaded guns around their house and their kids get to them. I had a friend die from a mom who left a loaded shot gun out, and the statistics of children who die in home accidents is just crazy. If a licensing process saves one kid, if it educates gun owners about the true dangers of guns, then it would have worked.
Now in terms of the Assault Rifles ban, England has outlawed assault rifles and hand guns for almost 2 decades, and no one has invaded them yet. So far they have had all the benefits and none of the negatives that we as Americans fear. I personally don't support the US adopting that policy, but it can be argued that we'd be better off if we did.
Exactly.
Theres nothing wrong with gun training, actually, people should get training if theres a gun in the house. But, the one major problem I see, is the national database idea that been thrown around.
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The gun debate is crazy right now.
Ive got a question for all you cupcake Euros who think the Queen knows best - How did the Assault Rifles Ban of 1994 effect the Columbine Incident?
I'll wait...
It didn't. But then again I'm not for an assault rifle ban. I am for a licensing process in which before anyone buys a gun, they must prove they can take care of one and they have the proper training to carry one. Many people leave loaded guns around their house and their kids get to them. I had a friend die from a mom who left a loaded shot gun out, and the statistics of children who die in home accidents is just crazy. If a licensing process saves one kid, if it educates gun owners about the true dangers of guns, then it would have worked.
Now in terms of the Assault Rifles ban, England has outlawed assault rifles and hand guns for almost 2 decades, and no one has invaded them yet. So far they have had all the benefits and none of the negatives that we as Americans fear. I personally don't support the US adopting that policy, but it can be argued that we'd be better off if we did.
If you know people that have loaded weapons around their children, then they need parenting classes, not gun classes.
And violent crime increased after England banned their guns. So did Australia. Switzerland is probably the ideal model for gun policy in the world. Their crime rate is almost zilch because everybody there has guns, they are all taught how to use them. No one commits violent crimes because they are kept in check by the fact that everyone has the means to protect themselves.
US and the Swiss are basically the last remaining countries standing in the way of global disarmament. That is a fact.
Why do you think criminals will obey gun laws MDogg?
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The gun debate is crazy right now.
Ive got a question for all you cupcake Euros who think the Queen knows best - How did the Assault Rifles Ban of 1994 effect the Columbine Incident?
I'll wait...
It didn't. But then again I'm not for an assault rifle ban. I am for a licensing process in which before anyone buys a gun, they must prove they can take care of one and they have the proper training to carry one. Many people leave loaded guns around their house and their kids get to them. I had a friend die from a mom who left a loaded shot gun out, and the statistics of children who die in home accidents is just crazy. If a licensing process saves one kid, if it educates gun owners about the true dangers of guns, then it would have worked.
Now in terms of the Assault Rifles ban, England has outlawed assault rifles and hand guns for almost 2 decades, and no one has invaded them yet. So far they have had all the benefits and none of the negatives that we as Americans fear. I personally don't support the US adopting that policy, but it can be argued that we'd be better off if we did.
If you know people that have loaded weapons around their children, then they need parenting classes, not gun classes.
And violent crime increased after England banned their guns. So did Australia. Switzerland is probably the ideal model for gun policy in the world. Their crime rate is almost zilch because everybody there has guns, they are all taught how to use them. No one commits violent crimes because they are kept in check by the fact that everyone has the means to protect themselves.
US and the Swiss are basically the last remaining countries standing in the way of global disarmament. That is a fact.
Why do you think criminals will obey gun laws MDogg?
Criminals wouldn't obey gun laws. But then again I am not for taking away guns OR even touching castle laws. Fact is though, you are more likely to have your gun be used in an accident than to use that gun to shoot at an intruder or someone harming you. That is a straight FACT. Most people are actually good law following citizens. We start to get it twisted when we listen to mass media that portrays others as criminals. They tell you to fear "ghetto" black people, "illegal" latinos, "crazy" white people. In reality, the vase majority of this country are people who follow the laws and help their neighbor.
And people who leave loaded guns out for their kids to find, well they need to have their kids taken away honestly. But we can't weed them out, we can't identify them until we read about their kids dying in the news paper. So before we get to that point, we need to have people understand the responsibility they have owning a gun.