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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Shallow on December 28, 2012, 06:43:55 AM
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/12/25/rochester-firefighters-ambush-condition.html
A guy sets fires to houses in a neighborhood in Rochester NY, and then waits for firefighters to show up so he can open fire on them. Two firemen died right away with a third body (suspected to be his sister) just recently found in the flames. 3 other firemen were wounded.
The guy left a note saying he wants to kill as many peope as possible.
He killed himself after.
The real sickening thing is that he got out of jail in 1998 after spending 17 years inside for killing his 92 year old grandmother with a hammer. So a 35 ear old man kills his 92 year old grandmother with a hammer (he plead guilty), and gets to be free after 17 years, and then off parole completely after 25 years?
I find it funny that pro-choicers label pro-lifers hypocrites for wanting the death penalty because killing a baby and killing this guy should be considered the same thing.
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another coward move.
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it actually is getting a lot of attention
and fuck the non-capital punishment supporters...pussies
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also proves gun laws dont work. criminals dont give 2 shits about the law
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also proves gun laws dont work. criminals dont give 2 shits about the law
It reallyshows that the law doesn't work. Even if the state doesn't kill the guy, how does a guy who admits tokilling his own 92 year old grandmother on purpose with a hammer ever get let out of jail?
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Hammers must go. Why are you yanks so obsessed with hardware tools? Just let the government ban them.
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Hammers must go. Why are you yanks so obsessed with hardware tools? Just let the government ban them.
Props mate!
Americans are stupid, and they have transexual father that fucked goats and gaves birth to these idiots :loser:
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Hammers must go. Why are you yanks so obsessed with hardware tools? Just let the government ban them.
No way. I need to be armed with a hammer to prevent the government from taking my freedom
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Please, the government is always in our best interest. They would never attempt to limit the rights of their citizens. LOL @ this kind of paranoia.
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Please, the government is always in our best interest. They would never attempt to limit the rights of their citizens. LOL @ this kind of paranoia.
Of course. But sitting at home caressing my hammer is still the best way to keep the government in check. Just in case.
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I carress my hammer when my lady friend is out of town. I dont think that applies to the topic at hand though.
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I carress my hammer when my lady friend is out of town. I dont think that applies to the topic at hand though.
;D
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Hammers must go. Why are you yanks so obsessed with hardware tools? Just let the government ban them.
No way. I need to be armed with a hammer to prevent the government from taking my freedom
What Euro country do you rep? Does it suck knowing that you guys gave your king or whatever all your guns?
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Hammers must go. Why are you yanks so obsessed with hardware tools? Just let the government ban them.
No way. I need to be armed with a hammer to prevent the government from taking my freedom
What Euro country do you rep? Does it suck knowing that you guys gave your king or whatever all your guns?
Gotta LOL @ Jrome the net banging pseudo-intellectual troll :D
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Hammers must go. Why are you yanks so obsessed with hardware tools? Just let the government ban them.
No way. I need to be armed with a hammer to prevent the government from taking my freedom
What Euro country do you rep? Does it suck knowing that you guys gave your king or whatever all your guns?
Gotta LOL @ Jrome the net banging pseudo-intellectual troll :D
Net banging? Just cuz you're a eurowigger doesn't mean I am. I'm not trolling either, just continuing exposing your fallacious world view and laughing at how hard you dodge it. Go pray to your queen.
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Hammers must go. Why are you yanks so obsessed with hardware tools? Just let the government ban them.
No way. I need to be armed with a hammer to prevent the government from taking my freedom
What Euro country do you rep? Does it suck knowing that you guys gave your king or whatever all your guns?
Gotta LOL @ Jrome the net banging pseudo-intellectual troll :D
Net banging? Just cuz you're a eurowigger doesn't mean I am. I'm not trolling either, just continuing exposing your fallacious world view and laughing at how hard you dodge it. Go pray to your queen.
It's funny how you're flipping your argument to non Americans having a lack of masculinity, or having a monarch (being the same thing)
Between the lines you're saying guns make u hard as hell Jrome, ain't cha....the welfare of victims is most certainly secondary to that. I see u
Fuck what everyone says, u wanna feel pumped ;)
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Hammers must go. Why are you yanks so obsessed with hardware tools? Just let the government ban them.
No way. I need to be armed with a hammer to prevent the government from taking my freedom
What Euro country do you rep? Does it suck knowing that you guys gave your king or whatever all your guns?
Gotta LOL @ Jrome the net banging pseudo-intellectual troll :D
Net banging? Just cuz you're a eurowigger doesn't mean I am. I'm not trolling either, just continuing exposing your fallacious world view and laughing at how hard you dodge it. Go pray to your queen.
It's funny how you're flipping your argument to non Americans having a lack of masculinity, or having a monarch (being the same thing)
Between the lines you're saying guns make u hard as hell Jrome, ain't cha....the welfare of victims is most certainly secondary to that. I see u
Fuck what everyone says, u wanna feel pumped ;)
Willy, my argument is the same. If you read what I actually posted maybe that wouldn't escape you. All I'm saying is you're not in a position to tell Ameros to give up their guns. You've already been beaten into submission by your rulers aka king and queen. You aren't even a citizen, you're a subject to them. Whether your leader is male or female is moot, the point is you live somewhere that has a king and queen which is grossly outdated, and dare I say uncivilized.
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No guns, no violence, Jrome. You know this. Stop avoiding the facts. Look at the UK for example.......nevermind, per capita, their gun violence isn't that much lower than the US.
But banning guns is the solution.
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Hammers must go. Why are you yanks so obsessed with hardware tools? Just let the government ban them.
No way. I need to be armed with a hammer to prevent the government from taking my freedom
What Euro country do you rep? Does it suck knowing that you guys gave your king or whatever all your guns?
Gotta LOL @ Jrome the net banging pseudo-intellectual troll :D
Net banging? Just cuz you're a eurowigger doesn't mean I am. I'm not trolling either, just continuing exposing your fallacious world view and laughing at how hard you dodge it. Go pray to your queen.
It's funny how you're flipping your argument to non Americans having a lack of masculinity, or having a monarch (being the same thing)
Between the lines you're saying guns make u hard as hell Jrome, ain't cha....the welfare of victims is most certainly secondary to that. I see u
Fuck what everyone says, u wanna feel pumped ;)
No, we're saying you have a lack of masculinity because you fear guns even though the facts support that you should fear oppressive gun laws. Which, by the way, is an emotional response, not logical. Emotion driven responses = typically equated with the female species.
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Hammers must go. Why are you yanks so obsessed with hardware tools? Just let the government ban them.
No way. I need to be armed with a hammer to prevent the government from taking my freedom
What Euro country do you rep? Does it suck knowing that you guys gave your king or whatever all your guns?
Considering my ava/username it isn't that hard to guess. But nice to see that you still can make these claims despite not even knowing which country I'm from.
Truth is, there are millions of gun owners here (no automatics tho). The difference is that we a) don't have a crazy cult that glorifies guns beyond all sanity and b) we don't live in an anarchistic country.
Actually, it doesn't suck in any way. And frankly we have no king and a more democratic constitution than you. I know that doesn't mean shit in those times were democracy is a chimera but your precious guns didn't stop your government from controlling you either. We don't have crazy uber powerful secret services and we didn't fall for that war on terrorism patriot act bs so I guess it isn't all that bad over here. Yet. Despite the fucking EU regime. But thank you for your interest.
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Since white people seem to be the majority of people in mass murders, is it time we start screening white people?
For reals though, we have a culture problem, and these mass shootings are just an illusion, a distraction from the real problem. People in America don't know how to treat guns. We treat guns as a weekend hobby we do well we get drunk. We don't need gun control, we need people to become educated as to the dangers of guns, and how to properly treat them. We should educate people on guns the same way we educated them on civics, because guns are a civics issue in the US. Don't ban gun, teach people how to use them, clean them, respect them and store them to prevent home accidents. The most recent statistic is that 500 children died in home accidents in 2008. Here are some examples from 2008, I am trying to find more recent examples.
-On July 19, 4-year-old Dylan Jackson shot himself to death after finding a loaded gun at a friend's home during a birthday party.
- A 3-year-old Southeast Washington boy shot himself in the foot and grazed his hand while playing with his father's gun -- which he found lying on the floor.
- A 2-year-old Tampa boy shot himself in the chest with a loaded 9 mm he found in his parent's couch while playing.
- Last February, a 13-year-old boy shot himself with a semiautomatic handgun in the home of his guardian, a Maryland police officer.
- The 10-year-old son of a New York City police officer died after shooting himself in the face with his father's loaded revolver. The boy found the weapon on a shelf in the basement while looking for a ball his mom had hidden.
We want to protect kids, teach parents at home how to properly handle guns. Parents think guns are something you have fun with well drinking with friends. There lies the real problem in this country.
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Some more recent gun and shooting accidents involving children include:
a 2-year-old in Cooper County, Missouri, died after shooting himself in the head with a handgun that "he got a hold of" in his house.
a 3-year-old in Loris, South Carolina, near Myrtle Beach, died after shooting himself in the head with a pistol that he found in the car.
a 5-year-old in Belleville, Illinois, near St. Louis, was accidentally shot in the head with a shotgun by his 10-year-old brother.
a 3-year-old in Maryland Heights, Missouri, near St. Louis, who shot himself once in the chest, died. He found the gun in his parents bedroom, one of whom is a police officer.
a 2-year-old was shot in the head by his 5-year-old brother in Connersville, Indiana who was playing with a gun he found in a bedroom. The boy, a twin, died of the gun shot.
a 3-year-old in St. Louis, Missouri who died after she shot herself in the head with a gun she found tucked between two mattresses.
a 6-year-old who was shot and killed by his 11-year-old stepbrother, in what was initially thought to be an accident, but the boy is now facing possible murder charges. The two boys were left home alone at the time of the shooting in Martinsville, Indiana.
a 10-year-old in Bay St. Louis, Mississippi died after he shot himself with his grandfather's gun that he found in his nightstand. He would have been going into the fifth grade next fall.
a 15-year-old from Cherry Hill, Baltimore was shot in the head and killed by a 12-year-old friend who was playing with the gun during a sleepover.
a 5-year-old from Bossier City, Louisiana found a loaded handgun a cabinet in his home, and accidentally shot and killed himself.
a 2-year-old near Fresno, California found a loaded, semi-automatic handgun in his home, walked into a bedroom with the gun, and it fired, striking and killing his 6-year-old sister.
a 3-year-old in South Carolina was shot in his upper boy by his uncle who was cleaning his gun when it accidentally fire. The toddler died in emergency surgery.
a 2-year-old in Georgia was shot in the back by a 9 or 10-year-old who found a gun in a van they were all playing in while the toddler's family was preparing to move to a new apartment.
a 2-year-old in Phoenix was shot in the face with a handgun by her 8-year-old brother, who thought he was playing with a toy gun he found on the floor of his grandfather's apartment.
a 3-year-old in Summerville, South Carolina who died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to her head after finding a loaded, unsecured handgun on the window sill of her parent's bedroom
a 5-year-old in Telferner, Texas who shot his 4-year-old brother in the abdomen with a rifle they were playing with in their home. His brother died from the gun shot wound.
a 2-year-old in Missouri who died after he accidentally shot himself in the head after finding a loaded handgun on a shelf in the closet of his parent's bedroom
an 11-year-old in Indianapolis who was accidentally shot by his brother
three children in Houston who were hurt when a 6-year-old accidentally fired a gun he had brought to school
an 8-year-old in Alabama who died from an accidental shotgun blast
a 2-year-old in Vermont who died after he was accidentally shot with a rifle by a sibling
a 10-year-old who lost use of his right eye after being shot by an older teen cousin while they were playing with a gun that they thought was unloaded
a 3-year-old in North Carolina who shot and killed himself
a 4-year-old who accidentally shot a 12-year-old in Louisiana while playing with a rifle they found in a closet
We look at the mass murderer, and we should. Be we should also look at the parent.
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Some more recent gun and shooting accidents involving children include:
a 2-year-old in Cooper County, Missouri, died after shooting himself in the head with a handgun that "he got a hold of" in his house.
a 3-year-old in Loris, South Carolina, near Myrtle Beach, died after shooting himself in the head with a pistol that he found in the car.
a 5-year-old in Belleville, Illinois, near St. Louis, was accidentally shot in the head with a shotgun by his 10-year-old brother.
a 3-year-old in Maryland Heights, Missouri, near St. Louis, who shot himself once in the chest, died. He found the gun in his parents bedroom, one of whom is a police officer.
a 2-year-old was shot in the head by his 5-year-old brother in Connersville, Indiana who was playing with a gun he found in a bedroom. The boy, a twin, died of the gun shot.
a 3-year-old in St. Louis, Missouri who died after she shot herself in the head with a gun she found tucked between two mattresses.
a 6-year-old who was shot and killed by his 11-year-old stepbrother, in what was initially thought to be an accident, but the boy is now facing possible murder charges. The two boys were left home alone at the time of the shooting in Martinsville, Indiana.
a 10-year-old in Bay St. Louis, Mississippi died after he shot himself with his grandfather's gun that he found in his nightstand. He would have been going into the fifth grade next fall.
a 15-year-old from Cherry Hill, Baltimore was shot in the head and killed by a 12-year-old friend who was playing with the gun during a sleepover.
a 5-year-old from Bossier City, Louisiana found a loaded handgun a cabinet in his home, and accidentally shot and killed himself.
a 2-year-old near Fresno, California found a loaded, semi-automatic handgun in his home, walked into a bedroom with the gun, and it fired, striking and killing his 6-year-old sister.
a 3-year-old in South Carolina was shot in his upper boy by his uncle who was cleaning his gun when it accidentally fire. The toddler died in emergency surgery.
a 2-year-old in Georgia was shot in the back by a 9 or 10-year-old who found a gun in a van they were all playing in while the toddler's family was preparing to move to a new apartment.
a 2-year-old in Phoenix was shot in the face with a handgun by her 8-year-old brother, who thought he was playing with a toy gun he found on the floor of his grandfather's apartment.
a 3-year-old in Summerville, South Carolina who died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to her head after finding a loaded, unsecured handgun on the window sill of her parent's bedroom
a 5-year-old in Telferner, Texas who shot his 4-year-old brother in the abdomen with a rifle they were playing with in their home. His brother died from the gun shot wound.
a 2-year-old in Missouri who died after he accidentally shot himself in the head after finding a loaded handgun on a shelf in the closet of his parent's bedroom
an 11-year-old in Indianapolis who was accidentally shot by his brother
three children in Houston who were hurt when a 6-year-old accidentally fired a gun he had brought to school
an 8-year-old in Alabama who died from an accidental shotgun blast
a 2-year-old in Vermont who died after he was accidentally shot with a rifle by a sibling
a 10-year-old who lost use of his right eye after being shot by an older teen cousin while they were playing with a gun that they thought was unloaded
a 3-year-old in North Carolina who shot and killed himself
a 4-year-old who accidentally shot a 12-year-old in Louisiana while playing with a rifle they found in a closet
We look at the mass murderer, and we should. Be we should also look at the parent.
Thanks for sharing.
The pro gun 'thinking' American will still say there is no problem in the culture. Welfare of others comes second to the rights of the gun owner.
Those kids will just end up on the 21k long list of 'accidental' deaths from last year.
At least the parents still have their rights intact.
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No problem, though I will say I don't consider myself anti-gun. My dad is a card carrying member of the NRA and former Marine. BUT he did have me go to every gun safety course before he let me touch a gun, and I technically own a couple of hunting rifles. (though they are still at my dad's house as I don't plan on having guns around my children until they are at least 13 years old.) I just think it's a culture issue. I posted this on my Facebook, a list of the known murders on New Years Day. One day into 2013, and we have this list to chew on.
7 people shot, 1 killed in a party in Columbus, GA
3 people shot and killed in Philly, one was just 17
2 victims were found shot to death in Elizabeth City, NC
A 31 year old man was killed at a social gathering in Suffolk, VA
11 people shot, 1 killed so far this new year in Chicago
A man shot and killed in a Georgia night club
4 people shot, 1 killed, the other three in critical condition in a shooting in Lansing, MI
4 shot, 1 killed in a gas station in Lorain, OH
A man killed his girlfriend in Port Arthur, TX
3 shot, 1 killed as a 19 year old boy died at a party in Clayton, NC
A man was shot to death in Corpus Christi, Texas early this morning
A 15 year old boy was killed visiting a friend for New Years when bullets hit their home in Flint, MI
A man was shot and killed in Indianapolis
And a woman died in Columbus, NC, her boyfriend is being held.
A college student was killed while at his parents house in New Orleans, LA
A man was found shot to death in a front porch in Cleveland, OH
2 men shot and killed in seperate tragidies Milwaukee, WI
A man was shot and killed outside a sports bar in Houston, TX
One day into the new year, it's amazing! Very few of these people were killed by assault rifle. We have a culture problem, and it's time to address it. To hammer it home, I am not in favor of gun restriction, but lately I have been open to owner restriction.
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For reals though, we have a culture problem, and these mass shootings are just an illusion, a distraction from the real problem. People in America don't know how to treat guns. We treat guns as a weekend hobby we do well we get drunk. We don't need gun control, we need people to become educated as to the dangers of guns, and how to properly treat them. We should educate people on guns the same way we educated them on civics, because guns are a civics issue in the US. Don't ban gun, teach people how to use them, clean them, respect them and store them to prevent home accidents. The most recent statistic is that 500 children died in home accidents in 2008. Here are some examples from 2008, I am trying to find more recent examples.
This is largely inaccurate, no offense. I don't know how many gun owners you know, but I was raised around people who hunt, and people who have guns in their home for protection. Out of let's say 10 households I remember with gun enthusiasts present, 9 of them practiced safe gun ownership. Alcohol was never involved in any firearm activity, not even a beer when hunting. What you're doing with that statement is letting the odd redneck/nigger/cholo's poor gun discipline speak for all gun owners in America and that's not fair. I agree we need more gun education, and support teaching it to the youth and adults regularly, but if you put out statements like that in an environment that matters, someone might believe you and start writing us all off as lazy idiots.
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For reals though, we have a culture problem, and these mass shootings are just an illusion, a distraction from the real problem. People in America don't know how to treat guns. We treat guns as a weekend hobby we do well we get drunk. We don't need gun control, we need people to become educated as to the dangers of guns, and how to properly treat them. We should educate people on guns the same way we educated them on civics, because guns are a civics issue in the US. Don't ban gun, teach people how to use them, clean them, respect them and store them to prevent home accidents. The most recent statistic is that 500 children died in home accidents in 2008. Here are some examples from 2008, I am trying to find more recent examples.
This is largely inaccurate, no offense. I don't know how many gun owners you know, but I was raised around people who hunt, and people who have guns in their home for protection. Out of let's say 10 households I remember with gun enthusiasts present, 9 of them practiced safe gun ownership. Alcohol was never involved in any firearm activity, not even a beer when hunting. What you're doing with that statement is letting the odd redneck/nigger/cholo's poor gun discipline speak for all gun owners in America and that's not fair. I agree we need more gun education, and support teaching it to the youth and adults regularly, but if you put out statements like that in an environment that matters, someone might believe you and start writing us all off as lazy idiots.
As a fellow registered gun owner, I would just like to say that if you think 9 out of 10 gun owners are responsible, that means 1 out of 10 is not, and that 1 person does extreme damage to the reputation of every gun owner. I am talking in a very narrow sounding board on dubcc, I have been here 12 years now and I know what I can get away with and who is watching. With that said, I am talking to people on this board, watch out and be responsible. I have met idiots who think a gun is a toy. I have family that leave guns laying around the house. And by the looks of the list of dead children I posted earlier, my family is not the only ones.
It's not fair to have the idiots speak for all gun owners, but it is also not addressing the problem to just ignore the idiots just because the majority of gun owners are responsible. My dad, who is a member of the NRA, Marine and who loads his own rounds as a past time is NOT the problem. But the idiot who leaves a loaded gun under his pillow for his 3 year old to find IS THE PROBLEM. The two guys who get dunk on weekends and go shooting, then wonder how there can be an accident IS THE PROBLEM. We need gun education, my father said when he went to Eisenhower High School in Rialto, CA, there was a gun class. You could even bring a gun to school and they had a place where they teach you how to work on the gun, and clean the gun. Of course he graduated in 1972. When I was in high school, my dad had me transferred out of Rialto because of the crime around the high school is the center of a 4 mile gang war zone. Times have changed.
We have lots of problems to address, but to start on assault rifles and large clips is the WRONG place to start. The place to start is the low hanging fruit. The idiots, the people who give gun owners a bad name. We need to get mental health on there, but we also need to get more education and screening.
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No problem, though I will say I don't consider myself anti-gun. My dad is a card carrying member of the NRA and former Marine. BUT he did have me go to every gun safety course before he let me touch a gun, and I technically own a couple of hunting rifles. (though they are still at my dad's house as I don't plan on having guns around my children until they are at least 13 years old.) I just think it's a culture issue. I posted this on my Facebook, a list of the known murders on New Years Day. One day into 2013, and we have this list to chew on.
7 people shot, 1 killed in a party in Columbus, GA
3 people shot and killed in Philly, one was just 17
2 victims were found shot to death in Elizabeth City, NC
A 31 year old man was killed at a social gathering in Suffolk, VA
11 people shot, 1 killed so far this new year in Chicago
A man shot and killed in a Georgia night club
4 people shot, 1 killed, the other three in critical condition in a shooting in Lansing, MI
4 shot, 1 killed in a gas station in Lorain, OH
A man killed his girlfriend in Port Arthur, TX
3 shot, 1 killed as a 19 year old boy died at a party in Clayton, NC
A man was shot to death in Corpus Christi, Texas early this morning
A 15 year old boy was killed visiting a friend for New Years when bullets hit their home in Flint, MI
A man was shot and killed in Indianapolis
And a woman died in Columbus, NC, her boyfriend is being held.
A college student was killed while at his parents house in New Orleans, LA
A man was found shot to death in a front porch in Cleveland, OH
2 men shot and killed in seperate tragidies Milwaukee, WI
A man was shot and killed outside a sports bar in Houston, TX
One day into the new year, it's amazing! Very few of these people were killed by assault rifle. We have a culture problem, and it's time to address it. To hammer it home, I am not in favor of gun restriction, but lately I have been open to owner restriction.
Damn. That's about 6 months worth in the UK (population around 60million)
It's astonishing
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Hammers must go. Why are you yanks so obsessed with hardware tools? Just let the government ban them.
No way. I need to be armed with a hammer to prevent the government from taking my freedom
What Euro country do you rep? Does it suck knowing that you guys gave your king or whatever all your guns?
Considering my ava/username it isn't that hard to guess. But nice to see that you still can make these claims despite not even knowing which country I'm from.
Truth is, there are millions of gun owners here (no automatics tho). The difference is that we a) don't have a crazy cult that glorifies guns beyond all sanity and b) we don't live in an anarchistic country.
Actually, it doesn't suck in any way. And frankly we have no king and a more democratic constitution than you. I know that doesn't mean shit in those times were democracy is a chimera but your precious guns didn't stop your government from controlling you either. We don't have crazy uber powerful secret services and we didn't fall for that war on terrorism patriot act bs so I guess it isn't all that bad over here. Yet. Despite the fucking EU regime. But thank you for your interest.
Pretty much this.
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No problem, though I will say I don't consider myself anti-gun. My dad is a card carrying member of the NRA and former Marine. BUT he did have me go to every gun safety course before he let me touch a gun, and I technically own a couple of hunting rifles. (though they are still at my dad's house as I don't plan on having guns around my children until they are at least 13 years old.) I just think it's a culture issue. I posted this on my Facebook, a list of the known murders on New Years Day. One day into 2013, and we have this list to chew on.
One day into the new year, it's amazing! Very few of these people were killed by assault rifle. We have a culture problem, and it's time to address it. To hammer it home, I am not in favor of gun restriction, but lately I have been open to owner restriction.
Well, nice to see that there are some reasonable people left. I consider myself a pacifist, but I can respect private gun ownership if the people who carry them are able to treat them more rational.
Many people love guns so much that they would give them names and keep them in their bed. There are so many idiots around the world who lack any responsibility and mind, let alone mental problems, who you better don't encourage to have guns.
I ain't gonna lie, a gun might be useful in the future when this system collapses.
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theres murders all the time in LA, and basically they get little to no media coverage.
only when it happens in predominant white communities, or the victims happen to be whites that arnt crimnials or drug addicts, .
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http://www.lacountymurders.com/
But right now, there are NO murders in LA County for the new year! But there is a tracker.
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I got my first pellet gun when I was 6. My Dad taught me from a very young age how to handle and respect a gun. Never have once touched alcohol while shooting and never will. The same goes for the vast majority of gun owners I know personally.
The 2nd amendment was put in place to protect citizens in the event their government turns to tyranny which is what we are seeing now. That is why they want to disarm everyone now.
What happens when governments disarm their citizens?
-In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. >From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated
-In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
-Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
-China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated
-Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
-Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
-Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
-Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
Check this vid:
INNOCENTS BETRAYED - The TRUE story of GUN CONTROL WORLDWIDE (Documentary - 58 Mins) - Innocents Betrayed - YouTube
You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens. Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late! The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson. With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects'. During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED! If you value your freedom, please spread this antigun-control message to all of your friends.
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"Gun control has cleared the way for seven major genocides since 1915, in which governments gone bad murdered 56,000,000 persons, including millions of children." -Aaron Zelman of Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership
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I got my first pellet gun when I was 6. My Dad taught me from a very young age how to handle and respect a gun. Never have once touched alcohol while shooting and never will. The same goes for the vast majority of gun owners I know personally.
The 2nd amendment was put in place to protect citizens in the event their government turns to tyranny which is what we are seeing now. That is why they want to disarm everyone now.
What happens when governments disarm their citizens?
-In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. >From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated
-In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
-Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
-China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated
-Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
-Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
-Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
-Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
Check this vid:
INNOCENTS BETRAYED - The TRUE story of GUN CONTROL WORLDWIDE (Documentary - 58 Mins) - Innocents Betrayed - YouTube
You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens. Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late! The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson. With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects'. During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED! If you value your freedom, please spread this antigun-control message to all of your friends.
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"Gun control has cleared the way for seven major genocides since 1915, in which governments gone bad murdered 56,000,000 persons, including millions of children." -Aaron Zelman of Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership
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Jrome takes a stroll, America circa 2020 :'(
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What do you have to say about those numbers of genocides on disarmed populous' Will? Your dodge tactics are getting redundant again. Are you able to actually debate like a grown up?
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What do you have to say about those numbers of genocides on disarmed populous' Will? Your dodge tactics are getting redundant again. Are you able to actually debate like a grown up?
You're comparing modern America to Uganda in the early 1970's, what do you expect me to say?
And since when did this become a 'run everything passed OG Will' thread. I think you need to remember there's a much bigger world out there than this 'internet safety blanket' you've knitted for yourself.
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I am not talking of unarming honest Americans. I am talking about making a provision that in order to own a gun, you have to prove you can handle a gun, clean a gun, know how to store a gun, and know that a gun is more likely to shot a family member than an intruder. These are gun basics. Right now ANYONE can buy a gun. You say the majority of people respect guns, I don't argue that. But if everyone respected guns, we would not be the nation with the most murders in the Industrialized World. We would not have so many kids who die from gun accidents each year. We have a huge problem.
Lets also look at mental health. We have lost more soldiers to suicide than to combat. We allow people who have mental health issues to get a gun. It's time we stop saying, I'M A RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER, DON'T TALK ABOUT ME. THAT'S BULLSHIT. I am a gun owner too, and I'm bringing it up. We need to change. It's time we look from within and figure out how to get people to respect guns. I am sick and tired of babies dying in gun accidents. I am sick and tired of the same profile of white male committing mass shootings. I am sick and tired of children dying in gang cross fires. I am sick and tired of IDIOTS owning guns and thinking it's a damn toy.
When I posted on my Facebook about the lack of respect people have for guns, my dad shocked me when he said, "That's why I never bought you a BB gun, but you know how to fire an M-1. Straight up, he never bought me a pallet gun, but I was 14 years old firing M-1's and an SKS Soviet military semi-automatic. As I said, I am NOT anti-gun, I am not even anti-assault rifle. But I am against IDIOTS getting a gun. And it's IDIOTS to usually want assault rifles.
You want a gun, the constitution allows that. But also know that there are people who non-gun owners call "GUN NUTS" and it's these people that give you, and me a bad name.
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What do you have to say about those numbers of genocides on disarmed populous' Will? Your dodge tactics are getting redundant again. Are you able to actually debate like a grown up?
You're comparing modern America to Uganda in the early 1970's, what do you expect me to say?
And since when did this become a 'run everything passed OG Will' thread. I think you need to remember there's a much bigger world out there than this 'internet safety blanket' you've knitted for yourself.
So you think it's complete randomness and coincidence that these genocides took place after their respective countries were disarmed? 56 million people slaughtered? Those who don't learn history are doomed to repeat it. It's unfortunate for you to deny the truth right in front of your face. I truly pity you.
It's not only about you, but you're so lost / misdirected and outspoken about your views, that I feel it's my duty as a human being to try and help you. I know it's most likely pointless but maybe someday you'll see how terribly flawed your argument is. And the fact that I make your arguments look stupid every time I post, I can see why you no longer want to debate.
And please spare me with the Internet talk...you're on here all the time. We both have 6k posts but my account is over 10 yrs old. How about you?
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What do you have to say about those numbers of genocides on disarmed populous' Will? Your dodge tactics are getting redundant again. Are you able to actually debate like a grown up?
You're comparing modern America to Uganda in the early 1970's, what do you expect me to say?
And since when did this become a 'run everything passed OG Will' thread. I think you need to remember there's a much bigger world out there than this 'internet safety blanket' you've knitted for yourself.
So you think it's complete randomness and coincidence that these genocides took place after their respective countries were disarmed? 56 million people slaughtered? Those who don't learn history are doomed to repeat it. It's unfortunate for you to deny the truth right in front of your face. I truly pity you.
It's not only about you, but you're so lost / misdirected and outspoken about your views, that I feel it's my duty as a human being to try and help you. I know it's most likely pointless but maybe someday you'll see how terribly flawed your argument is. And the fact that I make your arguments look stupid every time I post, I can see why you no longer want to debate.
And please spare me with the Internet talk...you're on here all the time. We both have 6k posts but my account is over 10 yrs old. How about you?
I'm sorry your posts are just getting more blah blah blah to me.
I'm not at all interested in you or your posts at the end of the day.
Having said that, I would like to see you respond to M Dogg who is a total breath of fresh air by comparison, and seems to be the definition of a free thinking American. Good luck with that ;)
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I am not talking of unarming honest Americans. I am talking about making a provision that in order to own a gun, you have to prove you can handle a gun, clean a gun, know how to store a gun, and know that a gun is more likely to shot a family member than an intruder. These are gun basics. Right now ANYONE can buy a gun. You say the majority of people respect guns, I don't argue that. But if everyone respected guns, we would not be the nation with the most murders in the Industrialized World. We would not have so many kids who die from gun accidents each year. We have a huge problem.
Lets also look at mental health. We have lost more soldiers to suicide than to combat. We allow people who have mental health issues to get a gun. It's time we stop saying, I'M A RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER, DON'T TALK ABOUT ME. THAT'S BULLSHIT. I am a gun owner too, and I'm bringing it up. We need to change. It's time we look from within and figure out how to get people to respect guns. I am sick and tired of babies dying in gun accidents. I am sick and tired of the same profile of white male committing mass shootings. I am sick and tired of children dying in gang cross fires. I am sick and tired of IDIOTS owning guns and thinking it's a damn toy.
When I posted on my Facebook about the lack of respect people have for guns, my dad shocked me when he said, "That's why I never bought you a BB gun, but you know how to fire an M-1. Straight up, he never bought me a pallet gun, but I was 14 years old firing M-1's and an SKS Soviet military semi-automatic. As I said, I am NOT anti-gun, I am not even anti-assault rifle. But I am against IDIOTS getting a gun. And it's IDIOTS to usually want assault rifles.
You want a gun, the constitution allows that. But also know that there are people who non-gun owners call "GUN NUTS" and it's these people that give you, and me a bad name.
I was with you up until you said you're sick of white people committing mass shootings...you need to do a better job at rising above racism my friend. By your statement, you're not sick of Blacks, Mexicans, etc killing each other for decades of turf wars?
You also forget the Malvo serial killer that terrorized DC about 10 years ago? 2 black guys went around sniping innocent people. But that's ok because they're black right?
The powers that be drive race into your mind daily because it keeps you distracted from looking at them. Don't fall into the trap.
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What do you have to say about those numbers of genocides on disarmed populous' Will? Your dodge tactics are getting redundant again. Are you able to actually debate like a grown up?
You're comparing modern America to Uganda in the early 1970's, what do you expect me to say?
And since when did this become a 'run everything passed OG Will' thread. I think you need to remember there's a much bigger world out there than this 'internet safety blanket' you've knitted for yourself.
So you think it's complete randomness and coincidence that these genocides took place after their respective countries were disarmed? 56 million people slaughtered? Those who don't learn history are doomed to repeat it. It's unfortunate for you to deny the truth right in front of your face. I truly pity you.
It's not only about you, but you're so lost / misdirected and outspoken about your views, that I feel it's my duty as a human being to try and help you. I know it's most likely pointless but maybe someday you'll see how terribly flawed your argument is. And the fact that I make your arguments look stupid every time I post, I can see why you no longer want to debate.
And please spare me with the Internet talk...you're on here all the time. We both have 6k posts but my account is over 10 yrs old. How about you?
I'm sorry your posts are just getting more blah blah blah to me.
I'm not at all interested in you or your posts at the end of the day.
Having said that, I would like to see you respond to M Dogg who is a total breath of fresh air by comparison, and seems to be the definition of a free thinking American. Good luck with that ;)
Dodging again. That's fine though little willy, run along I'm sure it's time to go breast feed from ya mum.
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What do you have to say about those numbers of genocides on disarmed populous' Will? Your dodge tactics are getting redundant again. Are you able to actually debate like a grown up?
You're comparing modern America to Uganda in the early 1970's, what do you expect me to say?
And since when did this become a 'run everything passed OG Will' thread. I think you need to remember there's a much bigger world out there than this 'internet safety blanket' you've knitted for yourself.
So you think it's complete randomness and coincidence that these genocides took place after their respective countries were disarmed? 56 million people slaughtered? Those who don't learn history are doomed to repeat it. It's unfortunate for you to deny the truth right in front of your face. I truly pity you.
It's not only about you, but you're so lost / misdirected and outspoken about your views, that I feel it's my duty as a human being to try and help you. I know it's most likely pointless but maybe someday you'll see how terribly flawed your argument is. And the fact that I make your arguments look stupid every time I post, I can see why you no longer want to debate.
And please spare me with the Internet talk...you're on here all the time. We both have 6k posts but my account is over 10 yrs old. How about you?
I'm sorry your posts are just getting more blah blah blah to me.
I'm not at all interested in you or your posts at the end of the day.
Having said that, I would like to see you respond to M Dogg who is a total breath of fresh air by comparison, and seems to be the definition of a free thinking American. Good luck with that ;)
Dodging again. That's fine though little willy, run along I'm sure it's time to go breast feed from ya mum.
LOL just keep repeating that my dude :)
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I'm not your dude. We have more of a pimp (me) and ho (you) relationship.
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I'm not your dude. We have more of a pimp (me) and ho (you) relationship.
And you were asking for serious debate?
Don't let yourself down.
I'm here to talk music and the occasional laugh but this massacre caused me to vocalise my humanitarian side.
You however have gone from edgy conspiracy theorist and championer of the 'oppressed' ...
To fucking zero.
No offense ;)
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I am not talking of unarming honest Americans. I am talking about making a provision that in order to own a gun, you have to prove you can handle a gun, clean a gun, know how to store a gun, and know that a gun is more likely to shot a family member than an intruder. These are gun basics. Right now ANYONE can buy a gun. You say the majority of people respect guns, I don't argue that. But if everyone respected guns, we would not be the nation with the most murders in the Industrialized World. We would not have so many kids who die from gun accidents each year. We have a huge problem.
Lets also look at mental health. We have lost more soldiers to suicide than to combat. We allow people who have mental health issues to get a gun. It's time we stop saying, I'M A RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER, DON'T TALK ABOUT ME. THAT'S BULLSHIT. I am a gun owner too, and I'm bringing it up. We need to change. It's time we look from within and figure out how to get people to respect guns. I am sick and tired of babies dying in gun accidents. I am sick and tired of the same profile of white male committing mass shootings. I am sick and tired of children dying in gang cross fires. I am sick and tired of IDIOTS owning guns and thinking it's a damn toy.
When I posted on my Facebook about the lack of respect people have for guns, my dad shocked me when he said, "That's why I never bought you a BB gun, but you know how to fire an M-1. Straight up, he never bought me a pallet gun, but I was 14 years old firing M-1's and an SKS Soviet military semi-automatic. As I said, I am NOT anti-gun, I am not even anti-assault rifle. But I am against IDIOTS getting a gun. And it's IDIOTS to usually want assault rifles.
You want a gun, the constitution allows that. But also know that there are people who non-gun owners call "GUN NUTS" and it's these people that give you, and me a bad name.
I was with you up until you said you're sick of white people committing mass shootings...you need to do a better job at rising above racism my friend. By your statement, you're not sick of Blacks, Mexicans, etc killing each other for decades of turf wars?
You also forget the Malvo serial killer that terrorized DC about 10 years ago? 2 black guys went around sniping innocent people. But that's ok because they're black right?
The powers that be drive race into your mind daily because it keeps you distracted from looking at them. Don't fall into the trap.
So this is how you think, this is how you try to discredit the truth? Hey it's up to you to stay stuck in your own ignorance.
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I'm not your dude. We have more of a pimp (me) and ho (you) relationship.
And you were asking for serious debate?
Don't let yourself down.
I'm here to talk music and the occasional laugh but this massacre caused me to vocalise my humanitarian side.
You however have gone from edgy conspiracy theorist and championer of the 'oppressed' ...
To fucking zero.
No offense ;)
I'd tell you to stick to discussing hip hop, but your taste in that sucks as well.
Sorry Will but you're boring and incapable of debate. I have to entertain myself somehow.
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I am not talking of unarming honest Americans. I am talking about making a provision that in order to own a gun, you have to prove you can handle a gun, clean a gun, know how to store a gun, and know that a gun is more likely to shot a family member than an intruder. These are gun basics. Right now ANYONE can buy a gun. You say the majority of people respect guns, I don't argue that. But if everyone respected guns, we would not be the nation with the most murders in the Industrialized World. We would not have so many kids who die from gun accidents each year. We have a huge problem.
Lets also look at mental health. We have lost more soldiers to suicide than to combat. We allow people who have mental health issues to get a gun. It's time we stop saying, I'M A RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER, DON'T TALK ABOUT ME. THAT'S BULLSHIT. I am a gun owner too, and I'm bringing it up. We need to change. It's time we look from within and figure out how to get people to respect guns. I am sick and tired of babies dying in gun accidents. I am sick and tired of the same profile of white male committing mass shootings. I am sick and tired of children dying in gang cross fires. I am sick and tired of IDIOTS owning guns and thinking it's a damn toy.
When I posted on my Facebook about the lack of respect people have for guns, my dad shocked me when he said, "That's why I never bought you a BB gun, but you know how to fire an M-1. Straight up, he never bought me a pallet gun, but I was 14 years old firing M-1's and an SKS Soviet military semi-automatic. As I said, I am NOT anti-gun, I am not even anti-assault rifle. But I am against IDIOTS getting a gun. And it's IDIOTS to usually want assault rifles.
You want a gun, the constitution allows that. But also know that there are people who non-gun owners call "GUN NUTS" and it's these people that give you, and me a bad name.
I was with you up until you said you're sick of white people committing mass shootings...you need to do a better job at rising above racism my friend. By your statement, you're not sick of Blacks, Mexicans, etc killing each other for decades of turf wars?
You also forget the Malvo serial killer that terrorized DC about 10 years ago? 2 black guys went around sniping innocent people. But that's ok because they're black right?
The powers that be drive race into your mind daily because it keeps you distracted from looking at them. Don't fall into the trap.
So this is how you think, this is how you try to discredit the truth? Hey it's up to you to stay stuck in your own ignorance.
What truth are you referring to? Your post was racist and you prolly didn't even realize it till I pointed it out to you. You're the one that said you're sick of white people killing, which infers that you aren't sick of other races killing.
Jon Malvo and the other dude were black serial killers.
U mad at whitey Mdogg?
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I am not talking of unarming honest Americans. I am talking about making a provision that in order to own a gun, you have to prove you can handle a gun, clean a gun, know how to store a gun, and know that a gun is more likely to shot a family member than an intruder. These are gun basics. Right now ANYONE can buy a gun. You say the majority of people respect guns, I don't argue that. But if everyone respected guns, we would not be the nation with the most murders in the Industrialized World. We would not have so many kids who die from gun accidents each year. We have a huge problem.
Lets also look at mental health. We have lost more soldiers to suicide than to combat. We allow people who have mental health issues to get a gun. It's time we stop saying, I'M A RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER, DON'T TALK ABOUT ME. THAT'S BULLSHIT. I am a gun owner too, and I'm bringing it up. We need to change. It's time we look from within and figure out how to get people to respect guns. I am sick and tired of babies dying in gun accidents. I am sick and tired of the same profile of white male committing mass shootings. I am sick and tired of children dying in gang cross fires. I am sick and tired of IDIOTS owning guns and thinking it's a damn toy.
When I posted on my Facebook about the lack of respect people have for guns, my dad shocked me when he said, "That's why I never bought you a BB gun, but you know how to fire an M-1. Straight up, he never bought me a pallet gun, but I was 14 years old firing M-1's and an SKS Soviet military semi-automatic. As I said, I am NOT anti-gun, I am not even anti-assault rifle. But I am against IDIOTS getting a gun. And it's IDIOTS to usually want assault rifles.
You want a gun, the constitution allows that. But also know that there are people who non-gun owners call "GUN NUTS" and it's these people that give you, and me a bad name.
I was with you up until you said you're sick of white people committing mass shootings...you need to do a better job at rising above racism my friend. By your statement, you're not sick of Blacks, Mexicans, etc killing each other for decades of turf wars?
You also forget the Malvo serial killer that terrorized DC about 10 years ago? 2 black guys went around sniping innocent people. But that's ok because they're black right?
The powers that be drive race into your mind daily because it keeps you distracted from looking at them. Don't fall into the trap.
So this is how you think, this is how you try to discredit the truth? Hey it's up to you to stay stuck in your own ignorance.
What truth are you referring to? Your post was racist and you prolly didn't even realize it till I pointed it out to you. You're the one that said you're sick of white people killing, which infers that you aren't sick of other races killing.
Jon Malvo and the other dude were black serial killers.
U mad at whitey Mdogg?
Not mad at whitey. But when I heard about Sandy Hook, and I already knew the profile of the killer before it was even released to the public is a very, very telling statement about the recent history of mass murderers. You keep pointing to DC sniper, you could also point to Virginia Tech as the killer was Asian. But that's only two out of many. Now I will be honest, Asians do have a high number of mass murders as well, and Blacks and Latinos have a couple. But compared to whites, no minority is even close. In 2012, look at who has been doing the shooting.
Adam Lanza; Newtown, CT; 28 dead; White (mentally ill)
Andrew Engeldinger; Minneapolis, MN; 8 dead; White (killed his employer and others after being fired)
Wade Michael Page; Oak Creek, WI; 10 dead; White (thought he was shooting at Muslims, turned out they were Sikhs)
James Holmes; Aurora, CO; 70 dead; White (mentally ill)
Ian Stawicki; Seattle, WA; 7 dead; White (reason unknown, girlfriend said he was acting weird that day)
One L. Goh; Oakland, CA; 10 dead; Asian (Former nursing student who wanted revenge after being teased)
Jeong Soo Paek; Atlanta, GA; 5 dead; Asian (killed sisters, their husbands and then himself in a dispute)
Mass murders death count this last year by race: Blacks: 0; Latino: 0; Asians: 15; Whites: 118
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I am not talking of unarming honest Americans. I am talking about making a provision that in order to own a gun, you have to prove you can handle a gun, clean a gun, know how to store a gun, and know that a gun is more likely to shot a family member than an intruder. These are gun basics. Right now ANYONE can buy a gun. You say the majority of people respect guns, I don't argue that. But if everyone respected guns, we would not be the nation with the most murders in the Industrialized World. We would not have so many kids who die from gun accidents each year. We have a huge problem.
Lets also look at mental health. We have lost more soldiers to suicide than to combat. We allow people who have mental health issues to get a gun. It's time we stop saying, I'M A RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER, DON'T TALK ABOUT ME. THAT'S BULLSHIT. I am a gun owner too, and I'm bringing it up. We need to change. It's time we look from within and figure out how to get people to respect guns. I am sick and tired of babies dying in gun accidents. I am sick and tired of the same profile of white male committing mass shootings. I am sick and tired of children dying in gang cross fires. I am sick and tired of IDIOTS owning guns and thinking it's a damn toy.
When I posted on my Facebook about the lack of respect people have for guns, my dad shocked me when he said, "That's why I never bought you a BB gun, but you know how to fire an M-1. Straight up, he never bought me a pallet gun, but I was 14 years old firing M-1's and an SKS Soviet military semi-automatic. As I said, I am NOT anti-gun, I am not even anti-assault rifle. But I am against IDIOTS getting a gun. And it's IDIOTS to usually want assault rifles.
You want a gun, the constitution allows that. But also know that there are people who non-gun owners call "GUN NUTS" and it's these people that give you, and me a bad name.
I was with you up until you said you're sick of white people committing mass shootings...you need to do a better job at rising above racism my friend. By your statement, you're not sick of Blacks, Mexicans, etc killing each other for decades of turf wars?
You also forget the Malvo serial killer that terrorized DC about 10 years ago? 2 black guys went around sniping innocent people. But that's ok because they're black right?
The powers that be drive race into your mind daily because it keeps you distracted from looking at them. Don't fall into the trap.
So this is how you think, this is how you try to discredit the truth? Hey it's up to you to stay stuck in your own ignorance.
What truth are you referring to? Your post was racist and you prolly didn't even realize it till I pointed it out to you. You're the one that said you're sick of white people killing, which infers that you aren't sick of other races killing.
Jon Malvo and the other dude were black serial killers.
U mad at whitey Mdogg?
Not mad at whitey. But when I heard about Sandy Hook, and I already knew the profile of the killer before it was even released to the public is a very, very telling statement about the recent history of mass murderers. You keep pointing to DC sniper, you could also point to Virginia Tech as the killer was Asian. But that's only two out of many. Now I will be honest, Asians do have a high number of mass murders as well, and Blacks and Latinos have a couple. But compared to whites, no minority is even close. In 2012, look at who has been doing the shooting.
Adam Lanza; Newtown, CT; 28 dead; White (mentally ill)
Andrew Engeldinger; Minneapolis, MN; 8 dead; White (killed his employer and others after being fired)
Wade Michael Page; Oak Creek, WI; 10 dead; White (thought he was shooting at Muslims, turned out they were Sikhs)
James Holmes; Aurora, CO; 70 dead; White (mentally ill)
Ian Stawicki; Seattle, WA; 7 dead; White (reason unknown, girlfriend said he was acting weird that day)
One L. Goh; Oakland, CA; 10 dead; Asian (Former nursing student who wanted revenge after being teased)
Jeong Soo Paek; Atlanta, GA; 5 dead; Asian (killed sisters, their husbands and then himself in a dispute)
Mass murders death count this last year by race: Blacks: 0; Latino: 0; Asians: 15; Whites: 118
There were over 500 murders in Chicago in 2012. Guess how many of those were by blacks? 65% or 325. Are you sick of that too or no?
The man has you right where he wants you...looking at superficial bullshit that he waves in front of your face which distracts and prevents you from doing a little digging and seeing how the man is truly the one responsible for these tragedies. But people like you and willy laugh that off, so comfortable in your belief system and faith in your masters despite the facts and history to prove otherwise.
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LOL Jrome still muddying the waters , not acknowledging the difference between massacres and murder.
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Mass murders death count this last year by race: Blacks: 0; Latino: 0; Asians: 15; Whites: 118
Suicidal lunacy is a product of the upper middle class. You won't see blacks and latinos do this until their fincial positions rise.
And it's a shame they don't keep the Arab or stats. They'd make the white number count seem small.
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I am not talking of unarming honest Americans. I am talking about making a provision that in order to own a gun, you have to prove you can handle a gun, clean a gun, know how to store a gun, and know that a gun is more likely to shot a family member than an intruder. These are gun basics. Right now ANYONE can buy a gun. You say the majority of people respect guns, I don't argue that. But if everyone respected guns, we would not be the nation with the most murders in the Industrialized World. We would not have so many kids who die from gun accidents each year. We have a huge problem.
Lets also look at mental health. We have lost more soldiers to suicide than to combat. We allow people who have mental health issues to get a gun. It's time we stop saying, I'M A RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER, DON'T TALK ABOUT ME. THAT'S BULLSHIT. I am a gun owner too, and I'm bringing it up. We need to change. It's time we look from within and figure out how to get people to respect guns. I am sick and tired of babies dying in gun accidents. I am sick and tired of the same profile of white male committing mass shootings. I am sick and tired of children dying in gang cross fires. I am sick and tired of IDIOTS owning guns and thinking it's a damn toy.
When I posted on my Facebook about the lack of respect people have for guns, my dad shocked me when he said, "That's why I never bought you a BB gun, but you know how to fire an M-1. Straight up, he never bought me a pallet gun, but I was 14 years old firing M-1's and an SKS Soviet military semi-automatic. As I said, I am NOT anti-gun, I am not even anti-assault rifle. But I am against IDIOTS getting a gun. And it's IDIOTS to usually want assault rifles.
You want a gun, the constitution allows that. But also know that there are people who non-gun owners call "GUN NUTS" and it's these people that give you, and me a bad name.
I was with you up until you said you're sick of white people committing mass shootings...you need to do a better job at rising above racism my friend. By your statement, you're not sick of Blacks, Mexicans, etc killing each other for decades of turf wars?
You also forget the Malvo serial killer that terrorized DC about 10 years ago? 2 black guys went around sniping innocent people. But that's ok because they're black right?
The powers that be drive race into your mind daily because it keeps you distracted from looking at them. Don't fall into the trap.
So this is how you think, this is how you try to discredit the truth? Hey it's up to you to stay stuck in your own ignorance.
What truth are you referring to? Your post was racist and you prolly didn't even realize it till I pointed it out to you. You're the one that said you're sick of white people killing, which infers that you aren't sick of other races killing.
Jon Malvo and the other dude were black serial killers.
U mad at whitey Mdogg?
Not mad at whitey. But when I heard about Sandy Hook, and I already knew the profile of the killer before it was even released to the public is a very, very telling statement about the recent history of mass murderers. You keep pointing to DC sniper, you could also point to Virginia Tech as the killer was Asian. But that's only two out of many. Now I will be honest, Asians do have a high number of mass murders as well, and Blacks and Latinos have a couple. But compared to whites, no minority is even close. In 2012, look at who has been doing the shooting.
Adam Lanza; Newtown, CT; 28 dead; White (mentally ill)
Andrew Engeldinger; Minneapolis, MN; 8 dead; White (killed his employer and others after being fired)
Wade Michael Page; Oak Creek, WI; 10 dead; White (thought he was shooting at Muslims, turned out they were Sikhs)
James Holmes; Aurora, CO; 70 dead; White (mentally ill)
Ian Stawicki; Seattle, WA; 7 dead; White (reason unknown, girlfriend said he was acting weird that day)
One L. Goh; Oakland, CA; 10 dead; Asian (Former nursing student who wanted revenge after being teased)
Jeong Soo Paek; Atlanta, GA; 5 dead; Asian (killed sisters, their husbands and then himself in a dispute)
Mass murders death count this last year by race: Blacks: 0; Latino: 0; Asians: 15; Whites: 118
There were over 500 murders in Chicago in 2012. Guess how many of those were by blacks? 65% or 325. Are you sick of that too or no?
The man has you right where he wants you...looking at superficial bullshit that he waves in front of your face which distracts and prevents you from doing a little digging and seeing how the man is truly the one responsible for these tragedies. But people like you and willy laugh that off, so comfortable in your belief system and faith in your masters despite the facts and history to prove otherwise.
Murder victims and murderers are what you'd call, disproportionately Black. You will notice in my originally rant, I did mention children getting killed in gang cross fire. As 2Pac once said "It's just another murder, nobody mourns no more, My tear drops gettin bigger but can't figure what I'm cryin forIs it the miniature caskets, little babies, Victims of a stray, from drug dealers gone crazy" That was a comment on the violence on the streets. And I didn't put Black or White, because gang violence is mainly a Black and Latino thing. So what that means is that I did touch, not just on Blacks, but Latinos in one sentence. Honestly, I grew up around gang violence, I have actually had a 12 gauge shotgun pointed at a gang member who was threatening me and my dad. In El Monte, California, we were fixing apartments and these guys came like they own the place and they tried to cause trouble. My dad said, "get my gun", I went and I had that gun pointed at them. They ran. I have seen gang violence up close, but I, myself never pulled the trigger as them running was good enough. To me, I am not concern with gang violence right now, I am more concern with the children dying of gang violence.
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Mass murders death count this last year by race: Blacks: 0; Latino: 0; Asians: 15; Whites: 118
Suicidal lunacy is a product of the upper middle class. You won't see blacks and latinos do this until their fincial positions rise.
And it's a shame they don't keep the Arab or stats. They'd make the white number count seem small.
This is weird. I think in the Middle East, you have a dominate culture who sees their whole world being invaded by the west. When you are of a dominate culture, and you think your culture is getting invaded then you react. And in the Middle East, they are reacting by suicidal mass murders. In the United States, since Obama has been elected president it seems that white people have felt like their dominate culture is being invaded. In Mexico, when the government started their war on drug, Cartels felt threaten and now Mexico is one hot mess. But these are necessary changes, through every dark night, there is a bright day at the end.
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I am not talking of unarming honest Americans. I am talking about making a provision that in order to own a gun, you have to prove you can handle a gun, clean a gun, know how to store a gun, and know that a gun is more likely to shot a family member than an intruder. These are gun basics. Right now ANYONE can buy a gun. You say the majority of people respect guns, I don't argue that. But if everyone respected guns, we would not be the nation with the most murders in the Industrialized World. We would not have so many kids who die from gun accidents each year. We have a huge problem.
Lets also look at mental health. We have lost more soldiers to suicide than to combat. We allow people who have mental health issues to get a gun. It's time we stop saying, I'M A RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER, DON'T TALK ABOUT ME. THAT'S BULLSHIT. I am a gun owner too, and I'm bringing it up. We need to change. It's time we look from within and figure out how to get people to respect guns. I am sick and tired of babies dying in gun accidents. I am sick and tired of the same profile of white male committing mass shootings. I am sick and tired of children dying in gang cross fires. I am sick and tired of IDIOTS owning guns and thinking it's a damn toy.
When I posted on my Facebook about the lack of respect people have for guns, my dad shocked me when he said, "That's why I never bought you a BB gun, but you know how to fire an M-1. Straight up, he never bought me a pallet gun, but I was 14 years old firing M-1's and an SKS Soviet military semi-automatic. As I said, I am NOT anti-gun, I am not even anti-assault rifle. But I am against IDIOTS getting a gun. And it's IDIOTS to usually want assault rifles.
You want a gun, the constitution allows that. But also know that there are people who non-gun owners call "GUN NUTS" and it's these people that give you, and me a bad name.
I was with you up until you said you're sick of white people committing mass shootings...you need to do a better job at rising above racism my friend. By your statement, you're not sick of Blacks, Mexicans, etc killing each other for decades of turf wars?
You also forget the Malvo serial killer that terrorized DC about 10 years ago? 2 black guys went around sniping innocent people. But that's ok because they're black right?
The powers that be drive race into your mind daily because it keeps you distracted from looking at them. Don't fall into the trap.
So this is how you think, this is how you try to discredit the truth? Hey it's up to you to stay stuck in your own ignorance.
What truth are you referring to? Your post was racist and you prolly didn't even realize it till I pointed it out to you. You're the one that said you're sick of white people killing, which infers that you aren't sick of other races killing.
Jon Malvo and the other dude were black serial killers.
U mad at whitey Mdogg?
Not mad at whitey. But when I heard about Sandy Hook, and I already knew the profile of the killer before it was even released to the public is a very, very telling statement about the recent history of mass murderers. You keep pointing to DC sniper, you could also point to Virginia Tech as the killer was Asian. But that's only two out of many. Now I will be honest, Asians do have a high number of mass murders as well, and Blacks and Latinos have a couple. But compared to whites, no minority is even close. In 2012, look at who has been doing the shooting.
Adam Lanza; Newtown, CT; 28 dead; White (mentally ill)
Andrew Engeldinger; Minneapolis, MN; 8 dead; White (killed his employer and others after being fired)
Wade Michael Page; Oak Creek, WI; 10 dead; White (thought he was shooting at Muslims, turned out they were Sikhs)
James Holmes; Aurora, CO; 70 dead; White (mentally ill)
Ian Stawicki; Seattle, WA; 7 dead; White (reason unknown, girlfriend said he was acting weird that day)
One L. Goh; Oakland, CA; 10 dead; Asian (Former nursing student who wanted revenge after being teased)
Jeong Soo Paek; Atlanta, GA; 5 dead; Asian (killed sisters, their husbands and then himself in a dispute)
Mass murders death count this last year by race: Blacks: 0; Latino: 0; Asians: 15; Whites: 118
There were over 500 murders in Chicago in 2012. Guess how many of those were by blacks? 65% or 325. Are you sick of that too or no?
The man has you right where he wants you...looking at superficial bullshit that he waves in front of your face which distracts and prevents you from doing a little digging and seeing how the man is truly the one responsible for these tragedies. But people like you and willy laugh that off, so comfortable in your belief system and faith in your masters despite the facts and history to prove otherwise.
Murder victims and murderers are what you'd call, disproportionately Black. You will notice in my originally rant, I did mention children getting killed in gang cross fire. As 2Pac once said "It's just another murder, nobody mourns no more, My tear drops gettin bigger but can't figure what I'm cryin forIs it the miniature caskets, little babies, Victims of a stray, from drug dealers gone crazy" That was a comment on the violence on the streets. And I didn't put Black or White, because gang violence is mainly a Black and Latino thing. So what that means is that I did touch, not just on Blacks, but Latinos in one sentence. Honestly, I grew up around gang violence, I have actually had a 12 gauge shotgun pointed at a gang member who was threatening me and my dad. In El Monte, California, we were fixing apartments and these guys came like they own the place and they tried to cause trouble. My dad said, "get my gun", I went and I had that gun pointed at them. They ran. I have seen gang violence up close, but I, myself never pulled the trigger as them running was good enough. To me, I am not concern with gang violence right now, I am more concern with the children dying of gang violence.
But you did suggest that whites be profiled.
And good for you for not pulling the trigger, that should only be a last resort.
Whites, blacks, Latinos, everywhere around the world had murderers, your skin color has absolutely nothing to do with it. In my opinion race is completely irrelevant; anytime I see it mentioned in the media I know it is to continue seeding racial divide...which is superficial BS.
The powers that be would rather you think that a skin color pre-determines serial killers, than researching their 60+ year admitted MK Ultra program.
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Well, I did want to make one point, because Blacks and Latinos have been profiled for many other things. Man, for one of the best posters in ToT, you took that bait too easily. Man, are you okay Jrome, or like some of my good libertarian friends, this is an emotional topic?
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Well, I did want to make one point, because Blacks and Latinos have been profiled for many other things. Man, for one of the best posters in ToT, you took that bait too easily. Man, are you okay Jrome, or like some of my good libertarian friends, this is an emotional topic?
Jromes just worried people aren't 'researching' MK Ultra. Reasearching meaning 2 seconds to google it and go "oh...hmmmm....ok then"
Really tho, I've noticed conspiracy theorists only want to see things their way, you can ask them the same thing 10 times and they won't address it..or give you the same stock replies. On some Scientology shit
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Well, I did want to make one point, because Blacks and Latinos have been profiled for many other things. Man, for one of the best posters in ToT, you took that bait too easily. Man, are you okay Jrome, or like some of my good libertarian friends, this is an emotional topic?
And profiling is bullshit. I'm aware that you were likely being sarcastic when you said that whites shoul be profiled, but you weren't when you said that you're sick of white serial killers and then tried to back it up with some stats. This topic is so emotional for me that I've broken 4 keyboards replying in this thread alone.
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Well, I did want to make one point, because Blacks and Latinos have been profiled for many other things. Man, for one of the best posters in ToT, you took that bait too easily. Man, are you okay Jrome, or like some of my good libertarian friends, this is an emotional topic?
Jromes just worried people aren't 'researching' MK Ultra. Reasearching meaning 2 seconds to google it and go "oh...hmmmm....ok then"
Really tho, I've noticed conspiracy theorists only want to see things their way, you can ask them the same thing 10 times and they won't address it..or give you the same stock replies. On some Scientology shit
Hi little willy, yes I see you, you can stop jumping up an down begging me to acknowledge you. I'm not worried about you little fella, like I said, I pity you and being the person I am I try to help you. I'm a nice guy. Unfortunately schooling you on this is like trying to teach a chimpanzee calculus.
Looking forward to your reply with some cliched Ebonics you heard on an NWA album. I like when you do that - I picture this little Phil Collins looking Limey in his mums basement with a do rag on his head saying "really doe" over and over in the mirror...you remind me of Tim Westwood with your corny ass.
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Well, I did want to make one point, because Blacks and Latinos have been profiled for many other things. Man, for one of the best posters in ToT, you took that bait too easily. Man, are you okay Jrome, or like some of my good libertarian friends, this is an emotional topic?
Jromes just worried people aren't 'researching' MK Ultra. Reasearching meaning 2 seconds to google it and go "oh...hmmmm....ok then"
Really tho, I've noticed conspiracy theorists only want to see things their way, you can ask them the same thing 10 times and they won't address it..or give you the same stock replies. On some Scientology shit
MK Ultra isn't some crazy conspiracy theory, the data has been declassified and released by the US government themselves. Yes, you could find that out with 2 seconds on google.
And when 80% of America is white profiling would just take way too much time away from donut eating. :D (Obviously institutional racism is the real issue in many if not most cases). But in some areas being white is sure to get you searched (for drugs).
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Well, I did want to make one point, because Blacks and Latinos have been profiled for many other things. Man, for one of the best posters in ToT, you took that bait too easily. Man, are you okay Jrome, or like some of my good libertarian friends, this is an emotional topic?
Jromes just worried people aren't 'researching' MK Ultra. Reasearching meaning 2 seconds to google it and go "oh...hmmmm....ok then"
Really tho, I've noticed conspiracy theorists only want to see things their way, you can ask them the same thing 10 times and they won't address it..or give you the same stock replies. On some Scientology shit
Hi little willy, yes I see you, you can stop jumping up an down begging me to acknowledge you. I'm not worried about you little fella, like I said, I pity you and being the person I am I try to help you. I'm a nice guy. Unfortunately schooling you on this is like trying to teach a chimpanzee calculus.
What do you think of organised religion and do you think it had a place in the modern world?
I ask because conspiracy theorists take the same approach as the hard line Christian whos preaching to the guy saying believe and you will be saved. You guys are the new religious nuts. To you everyone else are sheep and non believers. Only if they accept your way does it make them ok.
I think the world would be a lot better if people like you didn't think the other guy was worthless until proven otherwise. But it seems this kind of thing had gone on since the dawn of time so I shouldn't be surprised
Food for thought
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Well, I did want to make one point, because Blacks and Latinos have been profiled for many other things. Man, for one of the best posters in ToT, you took that bait too easily. Man, are you okay Jrome, or like some of my good libertarian friends, this is an emotional topic?
Jromes just worried people aren't 'researching' MK Ultra. Reasearching meaning 2 seconds to google it and go "oh...hmmmm....ok then"
Really tho, I've noticed conspiracy theorists only want to see things their way, you can ask them the same thing 10 times and they won't address it..or give you the same stock replies. On some Scientology shit
Hi little willy, yes I see you, you can stop jumping up an down begging me to acknowledge you. I'm not worried about you little fella, like I said, I pity you and being the person I am I try to help you. I'm a nice guy. Unfortunately schooling you on this is like trying to teach a chimpanzee calculus.
What do you think of organised religion and do you think it had a place in the modern world?
I ask because conspiracy theorists take the same approach as the hard line Christian whos preaching to the guy saying believe and you will be saved. You guys are the new religious nuts. To you everyone else are sheep and non believers. Only if they accept your way does it make them ok.
I think the world would be a lot better if people like you didn't think the other guy was worthless until proven otherwise. But it seems this kind of thing had gone on since the dawn of time so I shouldn't be surprised
Food for thought
First, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. That label has been decreed by your masters to program you to dismiss anything that doesn't completely agree with the official story. So what people like you who are brainwashed do, is take anyone who questions authority as "some kooky conspiracy theorist" and you completely dismiss them regardless of what they're talking about. All I do is read about things that don't make sense to me. Often what I feel is the truth doesn't agree with what your masters tell you. Since you are an obedient chap, you get defensive about anyone questioning authority because you've been programmed through generations of propaganda to worship your masters, never question them because they love you and want the best for you.
Organized religion is one of the biggest and oldest cons in world history. I have posted many times about religion in this section, search if you want to see my "crazy conspiracy theories" on that.
I don't think anyone is worthless Will, not sure where that statement comes from. If I did I would say nothing about the sheep being lead to the slaughterhouse.
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But like the guy who recruits for church, your own personal belief system means 'joe public' is a sheep and lost til otherwise saved...
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Well, I did want to make one point, because Blacks and Latinos have been profiled for many other things. Man, for one of the best posters in ToT, you took that bait too easily. Man, are you okay Jrome, or like some of my good libertarian friends, this is an emotional topic?
Jromes just worried people aren't 'researching' MK Ultra. Reasearching meaning 2 seconds to google it and go "oh...hmmmm....ok then"
Really tho, I've noticed conspiracy theorists only want to see things their way, you can ask them the same thing 10 times and they won't address it..or give you the same stock replies. On some Scientology shit
Hi little willy, yes I see you, you can stop jumping up an down begging me to acknowledge you. I'm not worried about you little fella, like I said, I pity you and being the person I am I try to help you. I'm a nice guy. Unfortunately schooling you on this is like trying to teach a chimpanzee calculus.
What do you think of organised religion and do you think it had a place in the modern world?
I ask because conspiracy theorists take the same approach as the hard line Christian whos preaching to the guy saying believe and you will be saved. You guys are the new religious nuts. To you everyone else are sheep and non believers. Only if they accept your way does it make them ok.
I think the world would be a lot better if people like you didn't think the other guy was worthless until proven otherwise. But it seems this kind of thing had gone on since the dawn of time so I shouldn't be surprised
Food for thought
People like you (or what youve posted on here that ive read and draws me to characterize you as) think being on the "moderate side" in discussions like these automatically give you the high ground in said argument over those who have an opinion that differs no matter how well thought out or researched that opinion is.
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Well, I did want to make one point, because Blacks and Latinos have been profiled for many other things. Man, for one of the best posters in ToT, you took that bait too easily. Man, are you okay Jrome, or like some of my good libertarian friends, this is an emotional topic?
Jromes just worried people aren't 'researching' MK Ultra. Reasearching meaning 2 seconds to google it and go "oh...hmmmm....ok then"
Really tho, I've noticed conspiracy theorists only want to see things their way, you can ask them the same thing 10 times and they won't address it..or give you the same stock replies. On some Scientology shit
Hi little willy, yes I see you, you can stop jumping up an down begging me to acknowledge you. I'm not worried about you little fella, like I said, I pity you and being the person I am I try to help you. I'm a nice guy. Unfortunately schooling you on this is like trying to teach a chimpanzee calculus.
What do you think of organised religion and do you think it had a place in the modern world?
I ask because conspiracy theorists take the same approach as the hard line Christian whos preaching to the guy saying believe and you will be saved. You guys are the new religious nuts. To you everyone else are sheep and non believers. Only if they accept your way does it make them ok.
I think the world would be a lot better if people like you didn't think the other guy was worthless until proven otherwise. But it seems this kind of thing had gone on since the dawn of time so I shouldn't be surprised
Food for thought
People like you (or what youve posted on here that ive read and draws me to characterize you as) think being on the "moderate side" in discussions like these automatically give you the high ground in said argument over those who have an opinion that differs no matter how well thought out or researched that opinion is.
Yeah but the homie Jrome can reaserch and form an opinion that others don't agree with. KrazySumwhat spends his life researching young girls and sudu-pedo imagery. Hes formed an 'educated' opinion on his findings too..
At the end of the day Jromes gonna be loved by the gun companies and the NRA tho that's for sure. There are are parties cashing in on people like him however 'underground' he pictures himself. He's a foot solder for that particular 'cult' and all the while repeating the message - other people are dumb human beings, they dont 'see' and they are a danger to you.
$$$ baby
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Well, I did want to make one point, because Blacks and Latinos have been profiled for many other things. Man, for one of the best posters in ToT, you took that bait too easily. Man, are you okay Jrome, or like some of my good libertarian friends, this is an emotional topic?
Jromes just worried people aren't 'researching' MK Ultra. Reasearching meaning 2 seconds to google it and go "oh...hmmmm....ok then"
Really tho, I've noticed conspiracy theorists only want to see things their way, you can ask them the same thing 10 times and they won't address it..or give you the same stock replies. On some Scientology shit
Hi little willy, yes I see you, you can stop jumping up an down begging me to acknowledge you. I'm not worried about you little fella, like I said, I pity you and being the person I am I try to help you. I'm a nice guy. Unfortunately schooling you on this is like trying to teach a chimpanzee calculus.
What do you think of organised religion and do you think it had a place in the modern world?
I ask because conspiracy theorists take the same approach as the hard line Christian whos preaching to the guy saying believe and you will be saved. You guys are the new religious nuts. To you everyone else are sheep and non believers. Only if they accept your way does it make them ok.
I think the world would be a lot better if people like you didn't think the other guy was worthless until proven otherwise. But it seems this kind of thing had gone on since the dawn of time so I shouldn't be surprised
Food for thought
People like you (or what youve posted on here that ive read and draws me to characterize you as) think being on the "moderate side" in discussions like these automatically give you the high ground in said argument over those who have an opinion that differs no matter how well thought out or researched that opinion is.
Yeah but the homie Jrome can reaserch and form an opinion that others don't agree with. KrazySumwhat spends his life researching young girls and sudu-pedo imagery. Hes formed an 'educated' opinion on his findings too..
At the end of the day Jromes gonna be loved by the gun companies and the NRA tho that's for sure. There are are parties cashing in on people like him however 'underground' he pictures himself. He's a foot solder for that particular 'cult' and all the while repeating the message - other people are dumb human beings, they dont 'see' and they are a danger to you.
$$$ baby
I would content that youre being controlled way more than he is.
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Well, I did want to make one point, because Blacks and Latinos have been profiled for many other things. Man, for one of the best posters in ToT, you took that bait too easily. Man, are you okay Jrome, or like some of my good libertarian friends, this is an emotional topic?
Jromes just worried people aren't 'researching' MK Ultra. Reasearching meaning 2 seconds to google it and go "oh...hmmmm....ok then"
Really tho, I've noticed conspiracy theorists only want to see things their way, you can ask them the same thing 10 times and they won't address it..or give you the same stock replies. On some Scientology shit
Hi little willy, yes I see you, you can stop jumping up an down begging me to acknowledge you. I'm not worried about you little fella, like I said, I pity you and being the person I am I try to help you. I'm a nice guy. Unfortunately schooling you on this is like trying to teach a chimpanzee calculus.
What do you think of organised religion and do you think it had a place in the modern world?
I ask because conspiracy theorists take the same approach as the hard line Christian whos preaching to the guy saying believe and you will be saved. You guys are the new religious nuts. To you everyone else are sheep and non believers. Only if they accept your way does it make them ok.
I think the world would be a lot better if people like you didn't think the other guy was worthless until proven otherwise. But it seems this kind of thing had gone on since the dawn of time so I shouldn't be surprised
Food for thought
People like you (or what youve posted on here that ive read and draws me to characterize you as) think being on the "moderate side" in discussions like these automatically give you the high ground in said argument over those who have an opinion that differs no matter how well thought out or researched that opinion is.
Yeah but the homie Jrome can reaserch and form an opinion that others don't agree with. KrazySumwhat spends his life researching young girls and sudu-pedo imagery. Hes formed an 'educated' opinion on his findings too..
At the end of the day Jromes gonna be loved by the gun companies and the NRA tho that's for sure. There are are parties cashing in on people like him however 'underground' he pictures himself. He's a foot solder for that particular 'cult' and all the while repeating the message - other people are dumb human beings, they dont 'see' and they are a danger to you.
$$$ baby
I would content that youre being controlled way more than he is.
Well that's your opinion homes. :)
I'm not religious but I've been brought up in a largely Christian country by parents who gave me what you could call 'Christian values'
The way I live my life now is influenced by that upbringing. Basic rights and wrongs. I don't rape or murder and shit because its wrong, not because its illegal. But I also know what the laws there for and what I pay taxes for.
I live in a free country and for that I'm grateful. But the people make up the 'mood' of a free country, not the government. Maybe for that reason I can't relate to the constant paranoia I hear from Jrome. And why I'm not afraid of my government OR my fellow man on the street.
Peace
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Yeah but the homie Jrome can reaserch and form an opinion that others don't agree with. KrazySumwhat spends his life researching young girls and sudu-pedo imagery. Hes formed an 'educated' opinion on his findings too..
At the end of the day Jromes gonna be loved by the gun companies and the NRA tho that's for sure. There are are parties cashing in on people like him however 'underground' he pictures himself. He's a foot solder for that particular 'cult' and all the while repeating the message - other people are dumb human beings, they dont 'see' and they are a danger to you.
And at the end of the day you're gonna be loved by your Masters. They love people who can't think for themselves.
LMAO @ foot soldier for a cult and being underground. More programmed psychological projection from you Will. Because of course anyone who doesn't agree with your masters must be on the fringe of society in a dark cave.
Just to put you at ease (because we already know how frightened you are of Americans), I am well educated, have a good career, and live in a nice area. I know your tv tells you this isn't possible, but it's true.
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Yeah but the homie Jrome can reaserch and form an opinion that others don't agree with. KrazySumwhat spends his life researching young girls and sudu-pedo imagery. Hes formed an 'educated' opinion on his findings too..
At the end of the day Jromes gonna be loved by the gun companies and the NRA tho that's for sure. There are are parties cashing in on people like him however 'underground' he pictures himself. He's a foot solder for that particular 'cult' and all the while repeating the message - other people are dumb human beings, they dont 'see' and they are a danger to you.
And at the end of the day you're gonna be loved by your Masters. They love people who can't think for themselves.
LMAO @ foot soldier for a cult and being underground. More programmed psychological projection from you Will. Because of course anyone who doesn't agree with your masters must be on the fringe of society in a dark cave.
Just to put you at ease (because we already know how frightened you are of Americans), I am well educated, have a good career, and live in a nice area. I know your tv tells you this isn't possible, but it's true.
You say you are not a conspiracy theorist, and then you sound like a conspiracy theorist.
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Yeah but the homie Jrome can reaserch and form an opinion that others don't agree with. KrazySumwhat spends his life researching young girls and sudu-pedo imagery. Hes formed an 'educated' opinion on his findings too..
At the end of the day Jromes gonna be loved by the gun companies and the NRA tho that's for sure. There are are parties cashing in on people like him however 'underground' he pictures himself. He's a foot solder for that particular 'cult' and all the while repeating the message - other people are dumb human beings, they dont 'see' and they are a danger to you.
And at the end of the day you're gonna be loved by your Masters. They love people who can't think for themselves.
LMAO @ foot soldier for a cult and being underground. More programmed psychological projection from you Will. Because of course anyone who doesn't agree with your masters must be on the fringe of society in a dark cave.
Just to put you at ease (because we already know how frightened you are of Americans), I am well educated, have a good career, and live in a nice area. I know your tv tells you this isn't possible, but it's true.
You say you are not a conspiracy theorist, and then you sound like a conspiracy theorist.
What is a conspiracy theorist MDogg? Give me your definition.
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Yeah but the homie Jrome can reaserch and form an opinion that others don't agree with. KrazySumwhat spends his life researching young girls and sudu-pedo imagery. Hes formed an 'educated' opinion on his findings too..
At the end of the day Jromes gonna be loved by the gun companies and the NRA tho that's for sure. There are are parties cashing in on people like him however 'underground' he pictures himself. He's a foot solder for that particular 'cult' and all the while repeating the message - other people are dumb human beings, they dont 'see' and they are a danger to you.
And at the end of the day you're gonna be loved by your Masters. They love people who can't think for themselves.
LMAO @ foot soldier for a cult and being underground. More programmed psychological projection from you Will. Because of course anyone who doesn't agree with your masters must be on the fringe of society in a dark cave.
Just to put you at ease (because we already know how frightened you are of Americans), I am well educated, have a good career, and live in a nice area. I know your tv tells you this isn't possible, but it's true.
I'm sorry, what did my tv tell me about odd obsessive types who lurk on Internet forums?
You'll have to fill me in chap
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Yeah but the homie Jrome can reaserch and form an opinion that others don't agree with. KrazySumwhat spends his life researching young girls and sudu-pedo imagery. Hes formed an 'educated' opinion on his findings too..
At the end of the day Jromes gonna be loved by the gun companies and the NRA tho that's for sure. There are are parties cashing in on people like him however 'underground' he pictures himself. He's a foot solder for that particular 'cult' and all the while repeating the message - other people are dumb human beings, they dont 'see' and they are a danger to you.
And at the end of the day you're gonna be loved by your Masters. They love people who can't think for themselves.
LMAO @ foot soldier for a cult and being underground. More programmed psychological projection from you Will. Because of course anyone who doesn't agree with your masters must be on the fringe of society in a dark cave.
Just to put you at ease (because we already know how frightened you are of Americans), I am well educated, have a good career, and live in a nice area. I know your tv tells you this isn't possible, but it's true.
You say you are not a conspiracy theorist, and then you sound like a conspiracy theorist.
What is a conspiracy theorist MDogg? Give me your definition.
Someone who thinks there are powers out there that can control the masses, ALL 7 BILLION people, by mass media and religion. Someone who thinks the Illuminati is possible, someone who believes in bloodlines (my family is O negative by the way, I know there is a conspiracy theory on that.) Someone afraid of their own government when the people have more guns than their government's military.
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Yeah but the homie Jrome can reaserch and form an opinion that others don't agree with. KrazySumwhat spends his life researching young girls and sudu-pedo imagery. Hes formed an 'educated' opinion on his findings too..
At the end of the day Jromes gonna be loved by the gun companies and the NRA tho that's for sure. There are are parties cashing in on people like him however 'underground' he pictures himself. He's a foot solder for that particular 'cult' and all the while repeating the message - other people are dumb human beings, they dont 'see' and they are a danger to you.
And at the end of the day you're gonna be loved by your Masters. They love people who can't think for themselves.
LMAO @ foot soldier for a cult and being underground. More programmed psychological projection from you Will. Because of course anyone who doesn't agree with your masters must be on the fringe of society in a dark cave.
Just to put you at ease (because we already know how frightened you are of Americans), I am well educated, have a good career, and live in a nice area. I know your tv tells you this isn't possible, but it's true.
I'm sorry, what did my tv tell me about odd obsessive types who lurk on Internet forums?
You'll have to fill me in chap
It tells you that anyone that questions authority has to be a foot soldier for an underground cult lmao. And your simple mind eats it up.
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Yeah but the homie Jrome can reaserch and form an opinion that others don't agree with. KrazySumwhat spends his life researching young girls and sudu-pedo imagery. Hes formed an 'educated' opinion on his findings too..
At the end of the day Jromes gonna be loved by the gun companies and the NRA tho that's for sure. There are are parties cashing in on people like him however 'underground' he pictures himself. He's a foot solder for that particular 'cult' and all the while repeating the message - other people are dumb human beings, they dont 'see' and they are a danger to you.
And at the end of the day you're gonna be loved by your Masters. They love people who can't think for themselves.
LMAO @ foot soldier for a cult and being underground. More programmed psychological projection from you Will. Because of course anyone who doesn't agree with your masters must be on the fringe of society in a dark cave.
Just to put you at ease (because we already know how frightened you are of Americans), I am well educated, have a good career, and live in a nice area. I know your tv tells you this isn't possible, but it's true.
You say you are not a conspiracy theorist, and then you sound like a conspiracy theorist.
What is a conspiracy theorist MDogg? Give me your definition.
Someone who thinks there are powers out there that can control the masses, ALL 7 BILLION people, by mass media and religion. Someone who thinks the Illuminati is possible, someone who believes in bloodlines (my family is O negative by the way, I know there is a conspiracy theory on that.) Someone afraid of their own government when the people have more guns than their government's military.
So basically you can't even come up with an accurate definition in your mind, basically any view of yours that someone else doesn't agree with makes them a conspiracy theorist.
The Illuminati isn't possible? It's an undisputed fact that it was established in 1776 genius by Adam Weishaupt. I don't think you can differentiate between theory an fact. MK Ultra...you'd say only a conspiracy theorist believes in that. It is unquestionable, documented, an admitted to by the CIA. Yet you and will say "that's crazy conspiracy theory lolz". So when those of us who have actually read and taken the facts for what they are, when we see you guys denouncing it as theory...well it makes it very clear you're in such a state of denial and lacking a lot of discernment. It is what it is.
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Yeah but the homie Jrome can reaserch and form an opinion that others don't agree with. KrazySumwhat spends his life researching young girls and sudu-pedo imagery. Hes formed an 'educated' opinion on his findings too..
At the end of the day Jromes gonna be loved by the gun companies and the NRA tho that's for sure. There are are parties cashing in on people like him however 'underground' he pictures himself. He's a foot solder for that particular 'cult' and all the while repeating the message - other people are dumb human beings, they dont 'see' and they are a danger to you.
And at the end of the day you're gonna be loved by your Masters. They love people who can't think for themselves.
LMAO @ foot soldier for a cult and being underground. More programmed psychological projection from you Will. Because of course anyone who doesn't agree with your masters must be on the fringe of society in a dark cave.
Just to put you at ease (because we already know how frightened you are of Americans), I am well educated, have a good career, and live in a nice area. I know your tv tells you this isn't possible, but it's true.
You say you are not a conspiracy theorist, and then you sound like a conspiracy theorist.
What is a conspiracy theorist MDogg? Give me your definition.
Someone who thinks there are powers out there that can control the masses, ALL 7 BILLION people, by mass media and religion. Someone who thinks the Illuminati is possible, someone who believes in bloodlines (my family is O negative by the way, I know there is a conspiracy theory on that.) Someone afraid of their own government when the people have more guns than their government's military.
So basically you can't even come up with an accurate definition in your mind, basically any view of yours that someone else doesn't agree with makes them a conspiracy theorist.
The Illuminati isn't possible? It's an undisputed fact that it was established in 1776 genius by Adam Weishaupt. I don't think you can differentiate between theory an fact. MK Ultra...you'd say only a conspiracy theorist believes in that. It is unquestionable, documented, an admitted to by the CIA. Yet you and will say "that's crazy conspiracy theory lolz". So when those of us who have actually read and taken the facts for what they are, when we see you guys denouncing it as theory...well it makes it very clear you're in such a state of denial and lacking a lot of discernment. It is what it is.
Here is the thing, someone like you takes MK Ultra, and then connects it to all these things that have no factual base to them. Yet, when someone like me wants proof of these things you say are facts, and there are no proven facts to them, I tend to not believe them. There are somethings that are true, and somethings that are not. But you seem to be like a 3 year old child and believe everything out there, including Santa being real and the Tooth Fairy printing all the money.
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Yeah but the homie Jrome can reaserch and form an opinion that others don't agree with. KrazySumwhat spends his life researching young girls and sudu-pedo imagery. Hes formed an 'educated' opinion on his findings too..
At the end of the day Jromes gonna be loved by the gun companies and the NRA tho that's for sure. There are are parties cashing in on people like him however 'underground' he pictures himself. He's a foot solder for that particular 'cult' and all the while repeating the message - other people are dumb human beings, they dont 'see' and they are a danger to you.
And at the end of the day you're gonna be loved by your Masters. They love people who can't think for themselves.
LMAO @ foot soldier for a cult and being underground. More programmed psychological projection from you Will. Because of course anyone who doesn't agree with your masters must be on the fringe of society in a dark cave.
Just to put you at ease (because we already know how frightened you are of Americans), I am well educated, have a good career, and live in a nice area. I know your tv tells you this isn't possible, but it's true.
You say you are not a conspiracy theorist, and then you sound like a conspiracy theorist.
What is a conspiracy theorist MDogg? Give me your definition.
Someone who thinks there are powers out there that can control the masses, ALL 7 BILLION people, by mass media and religion. Someone who thinks the Illuminati is possible, someone who believes in bloodlines (my family is O negative by the way, I know there is a conspiracy theory on that.) Someone afraid of their own government when the people have more guns than their government's military.
So basically you can't even come up with an accurate definition in your mind, basically any view of yours that someone else doesn't agree with makes them a conspiracy theorist.
The Illuminati isn't possible? It's an undisputed fact that it was established in 1776 genius by Adam Weishaupt. I don't think you can differentiate between theory an fact. MK Ultra...you'd say only a conspiracy theorist believes in that. It is unquestionable, documented, an admitted to by the CIA. Yet you and will say "that's crazy conspiracy theory lolz". So when those of us who have actually read and taken the facts for what they are, when we see you guys denouncing it as theory...well it makes it very clear you're in such a state of denial and lacking a lot of discernment. It is what it is.
Here is the thing, someone like you takes MK Ultra, and then connects it to all these things that have no factual base to them. Yet, when someone like me wants proof of these things you say are facts, and there are no proven facts to them, I tend to not believe them. There are somethings that are true, and somethings that are not. But you seem to be like a 3 year old child and believe everything out there, including Santa being real and the Tooth Fairy printing all the money.
Lmao says the guy who is catholic...what a fucking fairy tale that is. Fact - Catholicism is founded by Pagans and used as a tool to trick the simpletons into worship an rituals without its followers having a clue what they are doing. You just go along with it because you always have and never question it. Actually, I think you admitted that it was Pagan, but yet you still buy into it. Classic denial.
I don't take anything at face value. I always research and draw my own conclusions.
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Really tho, I've noticed conspiracy theorists only want to see things their way, you can ask them the same thing 10 times and they won't address it..or give you the same stock replies. On some Scientology shit
This is something that applies to all humans. That includes you seeing as you dodged a whole lot of questions and matters that Jrome, Sik & others sent your way.
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Really tho, I've noticed conspiracy theorists only want to see things their way, you can ask them the same thing 10 times and they won't address it..or give you the same stock replies. On some Scientology shit
This is something that applies to all humans. That includes you seeing as you dodged a whole lot of questions and matters that Jrome, Sik & others sent your way.
Will. Willlllll!!!!!!! What is your opinion on MK Ultra huh??!!!! What about SFII Turbo???!!!! And KOF98?!!!!!
Questions MUST be answered!!
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Will. Willlllll!!!!!!! What is your opinion on MK Ultra huh??!!!! What about SFII Turbo???!!!! And KOF98?!!!!!
Questions MUST be answered!!
There you go, you dodge'd it again. I could bring up MK Ultra 10 more times and you won't address it... or give me the same stock replies.
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Will. Willlllll!!!!!!! What is your opinion on MK Ultra huh??!!!! What about SFII Turbo???!!!! And KOF98?!!!!!
Questions MUST be answered!!
There you go, you dodge'd it again. I could bring up MK Ultra 10 more times and you won't address it... or give me the same stock replies.
Well gosh, the CIA were involved in spy games during the Cold War. America are still the most paranoid nation on earth so nothings changed.
What exactly do you want me to react to, or address?
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Yeah but the homie Jrome can reaserch and form an opinion that others don't agree with. KrazySumwhat spends his life researching young girls and sudu-pedo imagery. Hes formed an 'educated' opinion on his findings too..
At the end of the day Jromes gonna be loved by the gun companies and the NRA tho that's for sure. There are are parties cashing in on people like him however 'underground' he pictures himself. He's a foot solder for that particular 'cult' and all the while repeating the message - other people are dumb human beings, they dont 'see' and they are a danger to you.
And at the end of the day you're gonna be loved by your Masters. They love people who can't think for themselves.
LMAO @ foot soldier for a cult and being underground. More programmed psychological projection from you Will. Because of course anyone who doesn't agree with your masters must be on the fringe of society in a dark cave.
Just to put you at ease (because we already know how frightened you are of Americans), I am well educated, have a good career, and live in a nice area. I know your tv tells you this isn't possible, but it's true.
You say you are not a conspiracy theorist, and then you sound like a conspiracy theorist.
What is a conspiracy theorist MDogg? Give me your definition.
Someone who thinks there are powers out there that can control the masses, ALL 7 BILLION people, by mass media and religion. Someone who thinks the Illuminati is possible, someone who believes in bloodlines (my family is O negative by the way, I know there is a conspiracy theory on that.) Someone afraid of their own government when the people have more guns than their government's military.
So basically you can't even come up with an accurate definition in your mind, basically any view of yours that someone else doesn't agree with makes them a conspiracy theorist.
The Illuminati isn't possible? It's an undisputed fact that it was established in 1776 genius by Adam Weishaupt. I don't think you can differentiate between theory an fact. MK Ultra...you'd say only a conspiracy theorist believes in that. It is unquestionable, documented, an admitted to by the CIA. Yet you and will say "that's crazy conspiracy theory lolz". So when those of us who have actually read and taken the facts for what they are, when we see you guys denouncing it as theory...well it makes it very clear you're in such a state of denial and lacking a lot of discernment. It is what it is.
Here is the thing, someone like you takes MK Ultra, and then connects it to all these things that have no factual base to them. Yet, when someone like me wants proof of these things you say are facts, and there are no proven facts to them, I tend to not believe them. There are somethings that are true, and somethings that are not. But you seem to be like a 3 year old child and believe everything out there, including Santa being real and the Tooth Fairy printing all the money.
Lmao says the guy who is catholic...what a fucking fairy tale that is. Fact - Catholicism is founded by Pagans and used as a tool to trick the simpletons into worship an rituals without its followers having a clue what they are doing. You just go along with it because you always have and never question it. Actually, I think you admitted that it was Pagan, but yet you still buy into it. Classic denial.
I don't take anything at face value. I always research and draw my own conclusions.
I believe in the teachings, the bullshit around it was put there for people of that time. The New Testament was written in a time of hardship, and the story of Jesus was borrowed from other legends and religions from that area. The New Testament starts off by going over how Jesus was the fulfillment of all these different prophecies. That was needed, the truth was lost in symbolism so that the teachings could be sold to the people.
In reality, Jesus Christ was not his name, in real life it was Yeshua Ben Yosef. Imagine though how people would feel worshiping a carpenter by that name. Now do I believe he was the son of God, yes. Why? Because he was the first one to bring truth to the people. His teachings we ahead of it's time, revolutionary if you will. Say what you will about Christianity, but Yeshua Ben Yosef was the greatest teacher in world history. As people do more research on the man we now call Jesus, there is more evidence that he exist. The only debate now is, in which way does he exist. Christians like me believe he was the Son of God. Muslims believe him a prophet. And secular historians are now arguing that he was just a rebellious rabbi that who challenged the establishment. But more evidence now points to his existence.
I like how you use the word pagan. I say pagan to other Christians, and they freak out! All pagan means is "native" religions. So Native Americans had pagan beliefs, Aztecs had pagan beliefs, Germans, Chinese, and all around the world they had pagan beliefs. The back story of Jesus borrows from pagan beliefs of Egypt and Greece. As Christianity spread, pagan celebrations began to have their traditions "eaten" by Christianity. The story of Juan Diego is a great example of how a conquering nation like Spain was able to get the Aztecs to convert to Christianity. They used Aztec temples to convince the Aztecs that Mary was actually one of their Gods, and Christianity was actually the true religion. In Europe, they lite trees and had Noel logs long before Christianity spread there. But once the people converted to Christianity, we got Christmas trees. And so on.
But all of this is irrelevant. the evil that men do should not take away from the fact that the Gospels hold the truth. Be kind to your neighbors, give to the poor, your faith will get you through hardships, it's never too late to redeem yourself. These teaching have survived the test of time. Faith is very important, they found the brain reacts to faith.
You like to keep your mind open, but just think about this. How open minded do you think you have to be to challenge your whole belief system, and allow doubt to enter, to allow the realization that your religion was spread in a very horrible and dirty manner? I have wrestled with this for many, many, many years, but I have came away with more faith than I did starting my journey. You talk about having an open mind, but you are not willing to listen to the other side of the story. You have taken grains of truth, and you jump to conclusion. Christianity has pagan roots, it's false, MK Ultra is real therefore we are being minded controlled and everyone is a sheep. You have to open your mind to all sides, and all things.
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Wrong. Pagans are a specific religious sect. Don't know where you got your definition but that is full of shit. All of those groups you named were indeed Pagan which simplistically is polytheistic and nature worship - planets, stars, trees, etc...they also believe in ritual sacrifice and many other dark things...they were of course persecuted for those beliefs. It was a very popular worldwide religion. People from all around the world subscribed to it. How is that possible that the Chinese, Africans, and Mayans all had the same religios beliefs? That's a story for another thread.
The Pagans created the Abrahamic religions to deceive the masses into worshipping their Gods without their knowing it...Christians are sun worshippers, Muslims are moon worshippers (that's why Islamic countries have a crescent moon on their flag).
The golden rule is truth, 99% of the bible is fairy tales and allegory. Burning bushes speaking and shit lmao. So please keep your accusations of believing in Santa Claus to yourself.
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Wrong. Pagans are a specific religious sect. Don't know where you got your definition but that is full of shit. All of those groups you named were indeed Pagan which simplistically is polytheistic and nature worship - planets, stars, trees, etc...they also believe in ritual sacrifice and many other dark things...they were of course persecuted for those beliefs. It was a very popular worldwide religion. People from all around the world subscribed to it. How is that possible that the Chinese, Africans, and Mayans all had the same religios beliefs? That's a story for another thread.
The Pagans created the Abrahamic religions to deceive the masses into worshipping their Gods without their knowing it...Christians are sun worshippers, Muslims are moon worshippers (that's why Islamic countries have a crescent moon on their flag).
The golden rule is truth, 99% of the bible is fairy tales and allegory. Burning bushes speaking and shit lmao. So please keep your accusations of believing in Santa Claus to yourself.
Same definition you had, but I simplified it and gave examples, which you acknowledge were in fact pagan religions. Man, because I didn't say polytheistic and naturalistic, you then shot down my understanding of pagan, when in fact I backed up my simplistic definition by giving examples. Then you are going to attack everything I said, when I talk about the Bible taking back-stories of pagan myth and applying it to Jesus. Which you then said is that happened. But there is no such thing as a specific religious sect called Pagan. At least not what they knew then. Now, each religious sect would call themselves Pagan, but in these times we are talking about, many pagans didn't know about other pagans, or they were at odds with each other over religious differences. The Greeks practices the most advance form of paganism, and it is different than the Egyptian practice of paganism. The Aztecs had a different form of paganism than either the Greeks or the Egyptians, and the Mayans were different than the Aztecs.
Also, I'm surprised you rejected what I said about Christianity adopting pagan practices to spread Christianity. You know, things like Christmas lights, and Yule Logs, and Easter Bunnies, Mardi Gras, and other traditions and stories. It's like you didn't even read what I said.
I have found this about you. When it comes to religion, your arms are too short to box with God. You are always on attack mode, and you don't seem to listen. Hell you talk about another thread, you mean the thread where I bring up the Aliens who went around the world and everyone thought they were Gods. Is that it?
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Will. Willlllll!!!!!!! What is your opinion on MK Ultra huh??!!!! What about SFII Turbo???!!!! And KOF98?!!!!!
Questions MUST be answered!!
There you go, you dodge'd it again. I could bring up MK Ultra 10 more times and you won't address it... or give me the same stock replies.
Well gosh, the CIA were involved in spy games during the Cold War. America are still the most paranoid nation on earth so nothings changed.
What exactly do you want me to react to, or address?
Spy games? Testing on people without their permission is a game?
Here's a thought, maybe the government's best interest isn't the citizens they're supposed to protect...
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Will. Willlllll!!!!!!! What is your opinion on MK Ultra huh??!!!! What about SFII Turbo???!!!! And KOF98?!!!!!
Questions MUST be answered!!
There you go, you dodge'd it again. I could bring up MK Ultra 10 more times and you won't address it... or give me the same stock replies.
Well gosh, the CIA were involved in spy games during the Cold War. America are still the most paranoid nation on earth so nothings changed.
What exactly do you want me to react to, or address?
Spy games? Testing on people without their permission is a game?
Damn Iveus u need a holiday or somethin.
'Spy Games' is an expression, I'm talkin bout stuff like this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ipcress_File_(film)
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Damn Iveus u need a holiday or somethin.
Yeah you're right. Maybe I should go to Britain where BBC will tell me what's right and what's wrong.
Plus you appearently don't need dental hygiene.
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Damn Iveus u need a holiday or somethin.
Yeah you're right. Maybe I should go to Britain where BBC will tell me what's right and what's wrong.
Plus you appearently don't need dental hygiene.
LMFAO!!