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Title: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 22, 2013, 12:04:27 PM
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article33706.htm

[The following list was issued by Drones Watch on 20 January 2013. The names were compiled from The Bureau of Investigative Journalism reports.]



By Jadaliyya Reports

PAKISTAN

Name | Age | Gender

Noor Aziz | 8 | male
Abdul Wasit | 17 | male
Noor Syed | 8 | male
Wajid Noor | 9 | male
Syed Wali Shah | 7 | male
Ayeesha | 3 | female
Qari Alamzeb | 14| male
Shoaib | 8 | male
Hayatullah KhaMohammad | 16 | male
Tariq Aziz | 16 | male
Sanaullah Jan | 17 | male
Maezol Khan | 8 | female
Nasir Khan | male
Naeem Khan | male
Naeemullah | male
Mohammad Tahir | 16 | male
Azizul Wahab | 15 | male
Fazal Wahab | 16 | male
Ziauddin | 16 | male
Mohammad Yunus | 16 | male
Fazal Hakim | 19 | male
Ilyas | 13 | male
Sohail | 7 | male
Asadullah | 9 | male
khalilullah | 9 | male
Noor Mohammad | 8 | male
Khalid | 12 | male
Saifullah | 9 | male
Mashooq Jan | 15 | male
Nawab | 17 | male
Sultanat Khan | 16 | male
Ziaur Rahman | 13 | male
Noor Mohammad | 15 | male
Mohammad Yaas Khan | 16 | male
Qari Alamzeb | 14 | male
Ziaur Rahman | 17 | male
Abdullah | 18 | male
Ikramullah Zada | 17 | male
Inayatur Rehman | 16 | male
Shahbuddin | 15 | male
Yahya Khan | 16 |male
Rahatullah |17 | male
Mohammad Salim | 11 | male
Shahjehan | 15 | male
Gul Sher Khan | 15 | male
Bakht Muneer | 14 | male
Numair | 14 | male
Mashooq Khan | 16 | male
Ihsanullah | 16 | male
Luqman | 12 | male
Jannatullah | 13 | male
Ismail | 12 | male
Taseel Khan | 18 | male
Zaheeruddin | 16 | male
Qari Ishaq | 19 | male
Jamshed Khan | 14 | male
Alam Nabi | 11 | male
Qari Abdul Karim | 19 | male
Rahmatullah | 14 | male
Abdus Samad | 17 | male
Siraj | 16 | male
Saeedullah | 17 | male
Abdul Waris | 16 | male
Darvesh | 13 | male
Ameer Said | 15 | male
Shaukat | 14 | male
Inayatur Rahman | 17 | male
Salman | 12 | male
Fazal Wahab | 18 | male
Baacha Rahman | 13 | male
Wali-ur-Rahman | 17 | male
Iftikhar | 17 | male
Inayatullah | 15 | male
Mashooq Khan | 16 | male
Ihsanullah | 16 | male
Luqman | 12 | male
Jannatullah | 13 | male
Ismail | 12 | male
Abdul Waris | 16 | male
Darvesh | 13 | male
Ameer Said | 15 | male
Shaukat | 14 | male
Inayatur Rahman | 17 | male
Adnan | 16 | male
Najibullah | 13 | male
Naeemullah | 17 | male
Hizbullah | 10 | male
Kitab Gul | 12 | male
Wilayat Khan | 11 | male
Zabihullah | 16 | male
Shehzad Gul | 11 | male
Shabir | 15 | male
Qari Sharifullah | 17 | male
Shafiullah | 16 | male
Nimatullah | 14 | male
Shakirullah | 16 | male
Talha | 8 | male

YEMEN

Afrah Ali Mohammed Nasser | 9 | female
Zayda Ali Mohammed Nasser | 7 | female
Hoda Ali Mohammed Nasser | 5 | female
Sheikha Ali Mohammed Nasser | 4 | female
Ibrahim Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 13 | male
Asmaa Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 9 | male
Salma Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 4 | female
Fatima Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 3 | female
Khadije Ali Mokbel Louqye | 1 | female
Hanaa Ali Mokbel Louqye | 6 | female
Mohammed Ali Mokbel Salem Louqye | 4 | male
Jawass Mokbel Salem Louqye | 15 | female
Maryam Hussein Abdullah Awad | 2 | female
Shafiq Hussein Abdullah Awad | 1 | female
Sheikha Nasser Mahdi Ahmad Bouh | 3 | female
Maha Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 12 | male
Soumaya Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 9 | female
Shafika Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 4 | female
Shafiq Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 2 | male
Mabrook Mouqbal Al Qadari | 13 | male
Daolah Nasser 10 years | 10 | female
AbedalGhani Mohammed Mabkhout | 12 | male
Abdel- Rahman Anwar al Awlaki | 16 | male
Abdel-Rahman al-Awlaki | 17 | male
Nasser Salim | 19
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: Fraxxx on April 22, 2013, 12:36:19 PM
8 outta 25 children in Yemen were killed in one sweep, assuming that it was a family since they all had the same last name. So, at least the military kills efficiently, I guess... :-\
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 22, 2013, 12:58:44 PM
I want to start putting the list of dead children on Facebook and Twitter, still might for Twitter. Put up images and to whole thing. Still not sure as I have some narrow minded friends.
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: Ghost Drebin on April 22, 2013, 01:08:29 PM
I want to start putting the list of dead children on Facebook and Twitter, still might for Twitter. Put up images and to whole thing. Still not sure as I have some narrow minded friends.

Would you rather have boots on the ground which could significantly increase casualties?  Also there are quite a few 15+ year old males there that could very well have been involved in activities deemed missile worthy.  This is also assuming the hippies doing the counting are at all accurate....  If you believe their list, then you might also want to buy some bridges in Brooklyn.
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 22, 2013, 02:52:37 PM
obama is worse than Bush and that says something
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: MUHFUKKA on April 22, 2013, 03:42:50 PM
I want to start putting the list of dead children on Facebook and Twitter, still might for Twitter. Put up images and to whole thing. Still not sure as I have some narrow minded friends.

Would you rather have boots on the ground which could significantly increase casualties?  Also there are quite a few 15+ year old males there that could very well have been involved in activities deemed missile worthy.  This is also assuming the hippies doing the counting are at all accurate....  If you believe their list, then you might also want to buy some bridges in Brooklyn.
exactly what i was thinking. not to mention in those countries youre considered a "child" till about age 10 most likely
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 22, 2013, 10:43:11 PM
I guess I should have guessed this.

https://ose.utsc.utoronto.ca/ose/story.php?id=2135

Human brain recognizes and reacts to race, UTSC researchers discover

Apr 26, 2010
 
by April Kemick

The human brain fires differently when dealing with people outside of one’s own race, according to new research out of the University of Toronto Scarborough.
This research, conducted by social neuroscientists at U of T Scarborough, explored the sensitivity of the “mirror-neuron-system” to race and ethnicity. The researchers had study participants view a series of videos while hooked up to electroencephalogram (EEG) machines. The participants – all white – watched simple videos in which men of different races picked up a glass and took a sip of water. They watched white, black, South Asian and East Asian men perform the task.

Typically, when people observe others perform a simple task, their motor cortex region fires similarly to when they are performing the task themselves. However, the UofT research team, led by PhD student Jennifer Gutsell and Assistant Professor Dr. Michael Inzlicht, found that participants’ motor cortex was significantly less likely to fire when they watched the visible minority men perform the simple task. In some cases when participants watched the non-white men performing the task, their brains actually registered as little activity as when they watched a blank screen.

“Previous research shows people are less likely to feel connected to people outside their own ethnic groups, and we wanted to know why,” says Gutsell. “What we found is that there is a basic difference in the way peoples’ brains react to those from other ethnic backgrounds. Observing someone of a different race produced significantly less motor-cortex activity than observing a person of one’s own race. In other words, people were less likely to mentally simulate the actions of other-race than same-race people”

The trend was even more pronounced for participants who scored high on a test measuring subtle racism, says Gutsell.

“The so-called mirror-neuron-system is thought to be an important building block for empathy by allowing people to ‘mirror’ other people’s actions and emotions; our research indicates that this basic building block is less reactive to people who belong to a different race than you,” says Inzlicht.

However, the team says cognitive perspective taking exercises, for example, can increase empathy and understanding, thereby offering hope to reduce prejudice. Gutsell and Inzlicht are now investigating if this form of perspective-taking can have measurable effects in the brain.


The team’s findings are published in the Journal of Experimental Social Psychology.
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 22, 2013, 10:49:43 PM
lmao i pity whoever funded that project and wasted their $$$
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 22, 2013, 10:59:58 PM
lmao i pity whoever funded that project and wasted their $$$

To obvious. Looks like Canada funded it.
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: Articulate on April 22, 2013, 11:49:34 PM
I want to start putting the list of dead children on Facebook and Twitter, still might for Twitter. Put up images and to whole thing. Still not sure as I have some narrow minded friends.

you sound insecure.
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 23, 2013, 05:02:55 AM
I want to start putting the list of dead children on Facebook and Twitter, still might for Twitter. Put up images and to whole thing. Still not sure as I have some narrow minded friends.

you sound insecure.

Sometimes I am.
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: Articulate on April 23, 2013, 05:43:08 AM
I want to start putting the list of dead children on Facebook and Twitter, still might for Twitter. Put up images and to whole thing. Still not sure as I have some narrow minded friends.

you sound insecure.

Sometimes I am.

listening to more gangster rap will boost your confidence.
along with rightly matched colored coded clothing.
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 23, 2013, 08:42:27 AM
I want to start putting the list of dead children on Facebook and Twitter, still might for Twitter. Put up images and to whole thing. Still not sure as I have some narrow minded friends.

you sound insecure.

Sometimes I am.

listening to more gangster rap will boost your confidence.
along with rightly matched colored coded clothing.


Good to know.
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: Fraxxx on April 23, 2013, 11:27:41 AM
I want to start putting the list of dead children on Facebook and Twitter, still might for Twitter. Put up images and to whole thing. Still not sure as I have some narrow minded friends.

That's an even better reason to put it up in my book. 8)
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 23, 2013, 11:34:53 AM
I want to start putting the list of dead children on Facebook and Twitter, still might for Twitter. Put up images and to whole thing. Still not sure as I have some narrow minded friends.

That's an even better reason to put it up in my book. 8)

Well I posted it up on my Twitter. Facebook, might wait until the weekend. Dead children as dead children to me. Makes my stomach turn.
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on April 23, 2013, 12:12:21 PM
First, I'd be willing to bet the death toll from drones over seas is much much higher. There was a story that broke back in '02 in Afghanistan where a small village was having a wedding ceremony and as is common, they shot their guns in the air as part of their celebration. Drone was sent over and killed something like 38 people in one fell swoop. I'll try and find the article. Imagine how they must feel about Americans. Fucking sick ass satanists run the show here.

2nd, note that all policies of the Bush regime (and many prior regimes) have been expanded by the current regime. More evidence that both sides are corrupted at the highest levels by the same people with the same agenda.
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 23, 2013, 12:47:47 PM
First, I'd be willing to bet the death toll from drones over seas is much much higher. There was a story that broke back in '02 in Afghanistan where a small village was having a wedding ceremony and as is common, they shot their guns in the air as part of their celebration. Drone was sent over and killed something like 38 people in one fell swoop. I'll try and find the article. Imagine how they must feel about Americans. Fucking sick ass satanists run the show here.

2nd, note that all policies of the Bush regime (and many prior regimes) have been expanded by the current regime. More evidence that both sides are corrupted at the highest levels by the same people with the same agenda.

No doubt. Both sides need to be taken to task, but the left has a tradition of blindly supporting their president. They did it for LBJ during Vietnam, Bill Clinton during Bosnia and Somalia and now Obama during Afghanistan. Yet they get on the right and presidents like Ronald Reagan, George Bush Jr. and Richard Nixon for the exact same shit. The left is a bunch of hypocritical followers who wouldn't stand up for whats right.
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: Ghost Drebin on April 23, 2013, 01:15:33 PM
Drone strikes are much preferred to the alternative.  And in that part of the world, a 15 year old boy already has a wife an kids of his own.  They are considered men extra early and it's an honor for them to fight.  Don't let your western upbringing cloud the fact that many of those "children" are more mature than you or I.
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 23, 2013, 02:41:49 PM
Drone strikes are much preferred to the alternative.  And in that part of the world, a 15 year old boy already has a wife an kids of his own.  They are considered men extra early and it's an honor for them to fight.  Don't let your western upbringing cloud the fact that many of those "children" are more mature than you or I.

Well you argue about 15 year olds, there are newborn to 13 year olds dying as well. Little babies being killed by our aggression. There is no reason for drone strikes or even the alternative. A lot of bad men live in this world, we can't possibly kill them all without killing our own as well. No death is worth the life and potential that a child brings.

(http://thewe.cc/thewe_/images_5/-----/illuminati-system/drone-strike-by-obama-children-killed.jpg)
(http://www.nairaland.com/attachments/765266_drones_jpgc728b200a77a1c321cd3d7742b547864)
(http://theplebrevolt.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/drone-victims.jpg)
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: Ghost Drebin on April 23, 2013, 02:49:24 PM
Drone strikes are much preferred to the alternative.  And in that part of the world, a 15 year old boy already has a wife an kids of his own.  They are considered men extra early and it's an honor for them to fight.  Don't let your western upbringing cloud the fact that many of those "children" are more mature than you or I.

Well you argue about 15 year olds, there are newborn to 13 year olds dying as well. Little babies being killed by our aggression. There is no reason for drone strikes or even the alternative. A lot of bad men live in this world, we can't possibly kill them all without killing our own as well. No death is worth the life and potential that a child brings.

(http://thewe.cc/thewe_/images_5/-----/illuminati-system/drone-strike-by-obama-children-killed.jpg)
(http://www.nairaland.com/attachments/765266_drones_jpgc728b200a77a1c321cd3d7742b547864)
(http://theplebrevolt.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/drone-victims.jpg)

I'd say that collateral damage is a necessary evil in this case.  We are trying to surgically strike at a non uniformed enemy.  We can either carpet bomb whole villages, or let them continue to run training camps for the next 9/11.  Which would you prefer?
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: MUHFUKKA on April 23, 2013, 04:01:35 PM
Drone strikes are much preferred to the alternative.  And in that part of the world, a 15 year old boy already has a wife an kids of his own.  They are considered men extra early and it's an honor for them to fight.  Don't let your western upbringing cloud the fact that many of those "children" are more mature than you or I.

Well you argue about 15 year olds, there are newborn to 13 year olds dying as well. Little babies being killed by our aggression. There is no reason for drone strikes or even the alternative. A lot of bad men live in this world, we can't possibly kill them all without killing our own as well. No death is worth the life and potential that a child brings.

(http://thewe.cc/thewe_/images_5/-----/illuminati-system/drone-strike-by-obama-children-killed.jpg)
(http://www.nairaland.com/attachments/765266_drones_jpgc728b200a77a1c321cd3d7742b547864)
(http://theplebrevolt.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/drone-victims.jpg)
so do you suggest we all hug a rainbow and get along? even if america completely backs out of the middle east those fuckers are gonna kill each other until the end of time and periodically attack the west. its too bad some kids have to die but thats the way the world is
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 23, 2013, 04:40:56 PM
They can kill each other all they want. But we control our government and we should demand that our military and drones not kill people who are no threat to us.

That's why I am glad we didn't go into Syria. Let them figure out their own war. It is time to leave Afghanistan. If we want until they stop kill each other  we will never leave.
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: Ghost Drebin on April 23, 2013, 04:43:13 PM
They can kill each other all they want. But we control our government and we should demand that our military and drones not kill people who are no threat to us.

That's why I am glad we didn't go into Syria. Let them figure out their own war. It is time to leave Afghanistan. If we want until they stop kill each other  we will never leave.

So it's cool if kids die, as long as we don't kill them.  I get it.
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: MUHFUKKA on April 23, 2013, 05:27:44 PM
yeah so long as they dont attack america (and its clear that muslims would never do that)
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 23, 2013, 05:56:16 PM
to want war because of fear of a weaker nation is like Mike Tyson bring afraid of Oscar de la Hoya.
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: virtuoso on April 25, 2013, 04:13:27 PM

I respect M Dogg for bringing this up, this is a BIG deal, the usage of drones is essentially a model, or a prototype of future warfare and yes of course you are right that soldiers commit heinous acts but the use of drones takes things to a new level simply because those drones are being operated by someone perhaps thousands of miles away and so there is a complete disconnect between their actions and the devastation it causes. It's also a big deal because soldiers do have the ability to not massacre, the reality is that drones being utilised now are simply the first wave, the second wave will not be controlled by a human operator as robotic warfare rears it's nefarious head. By the way M Dogg the only thing I would say is don't forget the women being killed in these attacks too.

These are all sickening war crimes, you can't murder a group of 40 because a person of interest is in attendance at a wedding, but they do. Fuck what your friends say, seriously, they don't have to agree with you, but at least they can respect you have principles.
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: Sami on April 25, 2013, 06:01:17 PM
Drones are the height of cowardice and dishonor. If war isn't dangerous for both sides, wars never end.
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 26, 2013, 10:32:23 AM
They can kill each other all they want. But we control our government and we should demand that our military and drones not kill people who are no threat to us.

That's why I am glad we didn't go into Syria. Let them figure out their own war. It is time to leave Afghanistan. If we want until they stop kill each other  we will never leave.

So it's cool if kids die, as long as we don't kill them.  I get it.

It's not cool when kids die, but we shouldn't be the ones killing them. We need to remove our troops and let the people of those nations hold others accountable.

http://www.youtube.com/v/AeME7Q6Oaj0?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: KrazySumwhat on April 29, 2013, 06:22:05 AM
Drone strikes are much preferred to the alternative.  And in that part of the world, a 15 year old boy already has a wife an kids of his own.  They are considered men extra early and it's an honor for them to fight.  Don't let your western upbringing cloud the fact that many of those "children" are more mature than you or I.
So fucking true. That is sig worthy right there. Americans and westerners in general really piss me off with their ignorance. But i guess i cant talk, i aint religious so iam ignorant to being brainwashed or being spiritual and have such strong faith and enlightenment..
 We are all guilty of being ignorant to what we dont understand or how we have been raised/brainwashed/controlled/led to believe/told what is right and wrong/acceptable/unacceptable,normal/not normal, etc.
 But yes in many parts of the world you are an adult much sooner than us westerners, raised to marry, breed, fight/kill , etc. But the do gooders fail to see this or fail to take note even when they see it.
 Oh the children...gimmie a break.
  if they had the power to kill western children(the ones in power over there) best believe that they would.
 
Drones are the height of cowardice and dishonor. If war isn't dangerous for both sides, wars never end.
Thats bullshit. Its being superior, having greater technology/the advantage and using it. Why send in men to die or be captured when you have machines? its common sense, its also them testing out their equipment and gaining valuable data.
 Not saying its right or wrong but if you've got the tech why the fuck not use it? its 2013.
 EDIT: oh and honour? who the fuck fights for honour? Most fight for power and self gain or to protect themselves and others. The Japanese aint been fighting for some time. Is fighting for power honarable? is fighting for religion honarable? fighting loyally for a bad leader honarable?
 Western nations are just big multicultural lands being mixed breeded, theres no real need to fight for honour when your own country dosent even have an identity or pure race any more. IMO anyways^^;
 
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 29, 2013, 01:39:05 PM
Drone strikes are much preferred to the alternative.  And in that part of the world, a 15 year old boy already has a wife an kids of his own.  They are considered men extra early and it's an honor for them to fight.  Don't let your western upbringing cloud the fact that many of those "children" are more mature than you or I.
So fucking true. That is sig worthy right there. Americans and westerners in general really piss me off with their ignorance. But i guess i cant talk, i aint religious so iam ignorant to being brainwashed or being spiritual and have such strong faith and enlightenment..
 We are all guilty of being ignorant to what we dont understand or how we have been raised/brainwashed/controlled/led to believe/told what is right and wrong/acceptable/unacceptable,normal/not normal, etc.
 But yes in many parts of the world you are an adult much sooner than us westerners, raised to marry, breed, fight/kill , etc. But the do gooders fail to see this or fail to take note even when they see it.
 Oh the children...gimmie a break.
  if they had the power to kill western children(the ones in power over there) best believe that they would.
 
Drones are the height of cowardice and dishonor. If war isn't dangerous for both sides, wars never end.
Thats bullshit. Its being superior, having greater technology/the advantage and using it. Why send in men to die or be captured when you have machines? its common sense, its also them testing out their equipment and gaining valuable data.
 Not saying its right or wrong but if you've got the tech why the fuck not use it? its 2013.
 EDIT: oh and honour? who the fuck fights for honour? Most fight for power and self gain or to protect themselves and others. The Japanese aint been fighting for some time. Is fighting for power honarable? is fighting for religion honarable? fighting loyally for a bad leader honarable?
 Western nations are just big multicultural lands being mixed breeded, theres no real need to fight for honour when your own country dosent even have an identity or pure race any more. IMO anyways^^;
 

So because kids will die, we should be the ones to kill them. It's time to get out of this Cold War mentality of being the police of the world and get the fuck out of wars.

Here is a list of wars involving the United States:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States

Then to look at it, fight wars and we don't win them because we fight endless wars where you can't win. So what the world is fucked up. It can be as fucked up as it wants to be. But don't get us thrown into it.
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: KrazySumwhat on April 29, 2013, 11:12:25 PM
 ^Pretty much yeah, Leave everyone alone America, stop trying to control and fucking change everyone. BUT, having said that America also has done ans dose do alot of good and i think some countries would be better off if they became westernized but its not anyone's right to force them to change.
 America being the world government dose give a sense of security in one sense but also makes the world hate them in another sense so i dunno..?
 Westernisation of the world has its pros and cons.
 Speaking of getting dragged along, Australia is a perfect example of this. We are basicly Americas puppets. We are Americas allies and will go to war for them(not that we have army lol) so that turns people against America too.
 But then if shit were to go down we would want to be on Americas side so yeah..
 Innocent kids dying dose suck but i think its unavoidable to some extent. Unless America were to just never ever stick their nose in any other nation ever again, but as mentioned those people kill their own so..?
 Iam sitting on the fence. lol
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: *Z* - The Queen of Dubcc on May 03, 2013, 04:48:42 PM
I want to start putting the list of dead children on Facebook and Twitter, still might for Twitter. Put up images and to whole thing. Still not sure as I have some narrow minded friends.

Would you rather have boots on the ground which could significantly increase casualties?  Also there are quite a few 15+ year old males there that could very well have been involved in activities deemed missile worthy.  This is also assuming the hippies doing the counting are at all accurate....  If you believe their list, then you might also want to buy some bridges in Brooklyn.
exactly what i was thinking. not to mention in those countries youre considered a "child" till about age 10 most likely

its interesting how western people like to apply double standards. we fight for western standard peace and human rights but when we kill someone at a young age, we happily accept the standards of the country we attack to justify our misdeed
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: MUHFUKKA on May 04, 2013, 05:12:42 PM
I want to start putting the list of dead children on Facebook and Twitter, still might for Twitter. Put up images and to whole thing. Still not sure as I have some narrow minded friends.

Would you rather have boots on the ground which could significantly increase casualties?  Also there are quite a few 15+ year old males there that could very well have been involved in activities deemed missile worthy.  This is also assuming the hippies doing the counting are at all accurate....  If you believe their list, then you might also want to buy some bridges in Brooklyn.
exactly what i was thinking. not to mention in those countries youre considered a "child" till about age 10 most likely

its interesting how western people like to apply double standards. we fight for western standard peace and human rights but when we kill someone at a young age, we happily accept the standards of the country we attack to justify our misdeed
im saying that its likely teenagers in these countries are involved with the military/terrorist groups
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: Fraxxx on May 05, 2013, 06:52:14 AM
I want to start putting the list of dead children on Facebook and Twitter, still might for Twitter. Put up images and to whole thing. Still not sure as I have some narrow minded friends.

Would you rather have boots on the ground which could significantly increase casualties?  Also there are quite a few 15+ year old males there that could very well have been involved in activities deemed missile worthy.  This is also assuming the hippies doing the counting are at all accurate....  If you believe their list, then you might also want to buy some bridges in Brooklyn.
exactly what i was thinking. not to mention in those countries youre considered a "child" till about age 10 most likely

its interesting how western people like to apply double standards. we fight for western standard peace and human rights but when we kill someone at a young age, we happily accept the standards of the country we attack to justify our misdeed

While this is true, EVERYBODY likes to apply double standards. That said, no matter how much of a backwards ass country Yemen might be, it's not our business what they do there. No matter how just the cause we think we're fighting for is, in the end it always is just another spun story to benefit some wealthy fucks' interests.
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: Aladin on May 07, 2013, 02:45:18 AM
its interesting how western people like to apply double standards. we fight for western standard peace and human rights but when we kill someone at a young age, we happily accept the standards of the country we attack to justify our misdeed

Amen!
They have now a thing called "Signature" Drone strikes. Look it up is a technical/legal term.
That means if they suspect suspicious behavior in a country 10.000 miles of your coast.
That suspicion is enough to call in een Drone strike.
No trial, no evidence, just swift "Justice" in the name of Freedom and Democracy.

That said, today it is people in those third world countries that get the end of the stick.
Tomorrow you find yourself under Drone surveillance.
They already have plans for more Drones inside the US.

An arabic saying says... when the field is green, the fire cannot spread quick.
But when the field is dry, a little spark is enough  2 have the whole field in fire.

In US the grass is still Green.. but for how long....

Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: Outlaw Tay 187 on May 14, 2013, 07:59:55 AM
Some of you guys are heartless fucks. They're CHILDREN. Just because their not American children, y'all passing it off as pretty much "collateral damage", gtfoh.

And that some of you actually think these CHILDREN are involved with "terrorist organisations", SMH, absolute dumb fucks with your ridiculous assumptions.

Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: Fraxxx on May 14, 2013, 08:17:38 AM
Some of you guys are heartless fucks. They're CHILDREN. Just because their not American children, y'all passing it off as pretty much "collateral damage", gtfoh.

And that some of you actually think these CHILDREN are involved with "terrorist organisations", SMH, absolute dumb fucks with your ridiculous assumptions.



For all I know a 14- or 15-year-old could very well be joining a resistance group willing to fight. But since he did that because half of his family was propably killed by a drone strike it seems rather understandable.

Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: M Dogg™ on May 14, 2013, 08:35:23 AM
People here try to over reason things. This coming from a guy they accuse of over reasoning. But there is an aspect of human life, and us killing the innocents of children around the world.

I cannot stand it anymore. We have children die on our country because of a gun culture, we kill even MORE children around the world because of our war culture. Our nation is a country headed for moral bankruptcy.
Title: Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
Post by: Fraxxx on May 14, 2013, 10:30:07 AM
People here try to over reason things. This coming from a guy they accuse of over reasoning. But there is an aspect of human life, and us killing the innocents of children around the world.

I cannot stand it anymore. We have children die on our country because of a gun culture, we kill even MORE children around the world because of our war culture. Our nation is a country headed for moral bankruptcy.

Well, I guess, at least partly, that's the result of a culture that's so fixated on material bullshit. At some point you gonna get too many people that are ignorant towards everything that doesn't directly affect their pockets. Germany is only little behind in that aspect. 40-50 years ago there were big anti-war movements, today it's "who care's, I gotta get mine".

Edit: Everytime I read a comment online critisizing someone AT LEAST 3 people answer "who are you to talk? XXX makes more money in a week than you'll make in your whole life!" In which screwed up mindset is that a legitimite point for ANYTHING if you're not Ric Flair? It just shows how effectively indoctrinated people are.