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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Hack Wilson - real on August 11, 2013, 06:13:46 PM
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who? 2 votes each 8)
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no alchemist or madlib ?
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Ant Banks and E-A Ski
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i wonder who, though assuming #1 is correct.
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I voted DJ Quik but I believe he is the best producer, way ahead of Dre.
I'd rank producers:
1. DJ Quik
2. Battlecat
3. Terrace Martin
Dre is like #8 in my book.
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I voted DJ Quik but I believe he is the best producer, way ahead of Dre.
I'd rank producers:
1. DJ Quik
2. Battlecat
3. Terrace Martin
Dre is like #8 in my book.
quik only has one album that is even in the discussion with chronic and doggystyle and even then quik still came up a lil short
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Voted For Johnny J & DJ Quik, Dat Nigga Daz Is Close Too.
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The list seems a bit predictable. It's basically the same Death Row / Ruthless / DPG guys. No EA Ski? I like Johnny J but outside of his hits with Pac, he doesn't jump out as one of the best producers in West Coast history. I mean, this list just seems like people who came from a very specific pool.
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The list seems a bit predictable. It's basically the same Death Row / Ruthless / DPG guys. No EA Ski? I like Johnny J but outside of his hits with Pac, he doesn't jump out as one of the best producers in West Coast history. I mean, this list just seems like people who came from a very specific pool.
i wasn't even going to mak the list more than 5 at first, you really want me to list every dope producer on the west even though they have no shot at beating the first 5 or 6 guys on the poll?
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ant banks!
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dj uneek
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ant banks!
hells yeah
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DJ Quik
Quik Is The Name by Quik
Paid The Cost by PPC
Safe + Sound by Quik
Street Gospel by Suga Free
...then Battecat, Dat Nigga Daz, LT Hutton, DJ Pooh.
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Why isn't the greatest west coast producer on that list (ahead of Dre)?
Khayree.
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DJ Muggs, Fred Wreck and J Wells.
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Why isn't the greatest west coast producer on that list (ahead of Dre)?
Khayree.
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one two three four five trey five crestside niggaz make the party more live
Sean T and Studio Ton definitely deserve to be in the list too, in terms of catalogue
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Will I Am......joke ;D
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If Fredwreck is considered to be from the west, then he should take that.
If not; P.E.B. Rocks.
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Voted For Johnny J & DJ Quik, Dat Nigga Daz Is Close Too.
Same here. Daz is always a close one, but I just bought KNockin Boots on tape, produced by my half mexican homie and that persuaded my vote.
Quik was a no brainer.
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ant banks!
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I voted DJ Quik but I believe he is the best producer, way ahead of Dre.
I'd rank producers:
1. DJ Quik
Dre is like #8 in my book.
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DJ Quik
Cold 187
Dat Nigga Daz
Johnny J & Soopafly Are Close By...
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Madlib is a beast 8)
no alchemist or madlib ?
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no rhythm d, bobcat, or dj yella on the list either...
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Madlib is a beast 8)no alchemist or madlib ?
8)
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I voted DJ Quik but I believe he is the best producer, way ahead of Dre.
I'd rank producers:
1. DJ Quik
2. Battlecat
3. Terrace Martin
Dre is like #8 in my book.
Lol
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qd3??produced a lot of ice cube,yo yo,lench mob etc...
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qd3??produced a lot of ice cube,yo yo,lench mob etc...
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DJ QUIK, HANDS DOWN....WARREN G SHOULD BE ON YA LIST, THO
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Ant Banks and E-A Ski
OH YEA, I AINT EVEN INCLUDED THE BAY IN THIS....I WAS THINKIN JUST SOCAL. BUT BAY INCLUDED, THERES A LOT MISSIN FROM THAT LIST. DONT FORGET KHAYREE.
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Dre is like #8 in my book.
LMAO
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DJ Quik is a way better producer than Dre. After him I would probably say DJ Pooh or Battlecat...
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point finger u guy or girl? seriously lol
DJ Quik is a way better producer than Dre. After him I would probably say DJ Pooh or Battlecat...
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DJ Quik is a way better producer than Dre. After him I would probably say DJ Pooh or Battlecat...
QUIK HIMSELF WILL TELL U DRE IS A BETTER PRODUCER
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From that list Pooh and Quik
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quik is a better musician dre is a better producer.
but its close.
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i wasn't even going to mak the list more than 5 at first, you really want me to list every dope producer on the west even though they have no shot at beating the first 5 or 6 guys on the poll?
I just think it lacks variety. I'd say Quik and Battlecat are the only two producers whose names enter the conversation. That's not a knock on the rest though it seems more designed over where they worked and who they worked with than on their actual body of work.
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No Warren G ???
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I would say King Tee or Kid Frost rather than those in the list
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PHONK BETA, BROTHA LYNCH
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wow.. surprised ya'll love DJ Quik so much.. I mean he's dope and all but he's not a legend like Daz and Warren G. And why isn't Warren G on the list? And where's Johnny J? Here's my list..
1. Dre
2. Daz
3. Warren G
4. Johnny J
....then everyone else is way after that
Soopafly
Battlecat
Muggs
Meach
DJ Pooh
DJ Quik
Mel-Man
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Mel-Man from Pittsburgh :D
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wow.. surprised ya'll love DJ Quik so much.. I mean he's dope and all but he's not a legend like Daz and Warren G.
YES...YES, HE IS.
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wow.. surprised ya'll love DJ Quik so much.. I mean he's dope and all but he's not a legend like Daz and Warren G.
YES...YES, HE IS.
much more so than Daz
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surprised ya'll love DJ Quik so much.. I mean he's dope and all but he's not a legend like Daz and Warren G.
please stop shaming your other fellow white rap fans with comments like these brian.
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wow.. surprised ya'll love DJ Quik so much.. I mean he's dope and all but he's not a legend like Daz and Warren G.
YES...YES, HE IS.
much more so than Daz
If he is.. then name me one legendary Quik track on par with...
"Ambitionz of a Ridah"
"2 of America's Most Wanted"
"(nearly the whole damn Dogg Food album)"
"What Would U Do"
"Got My Mind Made Up"
Quik has a collection of dope tracks but no LEGENDARY cuts
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wow.. surprised ya'll love DJ Quik so much.. I mean he's dope and all but he's not a legend like Daz and Warren G.
YES...YES, HE IS.
much more so than Daz
If he is.. then name me one legendary Quik track on par with...
"Ambitionz of a Ridah"
"2 of America's Most Wanted"
"(nearly the whole damn Dogg Food album)"
"What Would U Do"
"Got My Mind Made Up"
Quik has a collection of dope tracks but no LEGENDARY cuts
HE HAS ENTIRE ALBUMS THAT ARE CLASSIC
GO PEEP "SAFE N SOUND" AND "RYTHMALISM" IF U HAVENT BY NOW
U'D KNOW BETTER IF U WERE FROM L.A.
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dj uneek was a better producer then daz or warren g. :-*
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wow.. surprised ya'll love DJ Quik so much.. I mean he's dope and all but he's not a legend like Daz and Warren G.
YES...YES, HE IS.
much more so than Daz
If he is.. then name me one legendary Quik track on par with...
"Ambitionz of a Ridah"
"2 of America's Most Wanted"
"(nearly the whole damn Dogg Food album)"
"What Would U Do"
"Got My Mind Made Up"
Quik has a collection of dope tracks but no LEGENDARY cuts
HE HAS ENTIRE ALBUMS THAT ARE CLASSIC
GO PEEP "SAFE N SOUND" AND "RYTHMALISM" IF U HAVENT BY NOW
U'D KNOW BETTER IF U WERE FROM L.A.
You still didn't name me one song that can fuck with the onez that I listed
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wow.. surprised ya'll love DJ Quik so much.. I mean he's dope and all but he's not a legend like Daz and Warren G.
YES...YES, HE IS.
much more so than Daz
If he is.. then name me one legendary Quik track on par with...
"Ambitionz of a Ridah"
"2 of America's Most Wanted"
"(nearly the whole damn Dogg Food album)"
"What Would U Do"
"Got My Mind Made Up"
Quik has a collection of dope tracks but no LEGENDARY cuts
HE HAS ENTIRE ALBUMS THAT ARE CLASSIC
GO PEEP "SAFE N SOUND" AND "RYTHMALISM" IF U HAVENT BY NOW
U'D KNOW BETTER IF U WERE FROM L.A.
You still didn't name me one song that can fuck with the onez that I listed
SAFE + SOUND, DOLLAZ & SENSE, YOUZ A GANGXTA, DOWN DOWN DOWN, PITCH IN ON A PARTY, SO MANY WAYZ, TONITE
HOW FAMILIAR ARE U WIT THESE CUTS, HONESTLY?
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dj uneek was a better producer then daz or warren g. :-*
NAAH BUT HE UP THERE
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wow.. surprised ya'll love DJ Quik so much.. I mean he's dope and all but he's not a legend like Daz and Warren G.
YES...YES, HE IS.
much more so than Daz
If he is.. then name me one legendary Quik track on par with...
"Ambitionz of a Ridah"
"2 of America's Most Wanted"
"(nearly the whole damn Dogg Food album)"
"What Would U Do"
"Got My Mind Made Up"
Quik has a collection of dope tracks but no LEGENDARY cuts
1st off Quik mixed the records Daz produced for All Eyez On Me. Sometimes he even ghostproduced them, and took it to another level, as he did for Skandalouz. Second Soopafly co-produced every single track Daz supposedly produced for All Eyez On Me, knowing that Soopafly is a musician, we can guess that Soopafly is more responsible for the greatness of these beats than Daz. We all know Death Row was shady regarding producer's credits,
DX: I just know “Skandalouz” wouldn’t be the classic it is without the talk box [you added to it].
DJ Quik: Yeah, I touched [that record]. I had my boy, Cornelius Mims, play bass on it. That was Daz [Dillinger]’s beat. Daz shot it to me and I really made it a record that they wouldn’t have to clear a sample with. I played Rhodes [electric piano] on there too. I was coming.
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/interviews/id.1691/title.dj-quik-against-all-odds
Yea, me and Daz did alot fo production for "All Eyez on Me". We did Ambitionz Az a Ridah, Ain't Mad at Cha, Nuttin but a Gangsta Party.
I hooked up with Dr Dre. Started fucking with the keyboards, and started making beats for them. I worked alot with Daz. Me and Daz had a good relationship. I did alot of shit with Daz. I didn't get credit for the production I did cuz I wasn't signed with Deathrow then, but I did beats for Daz and he would pay me under the table.
Legendary DJ Quik cuts (just a glimpse cause there's more) :
- Tonite
- Born and raised in Compton
- Jus Lyke Compton
- Safe + Sound
- Somethin 4 The Mood
- Dollaz + Sense
- Summer Breeze
- Youz a Ganxta
- Medley For A "V" (The Pussy Medley)
- The Divorce Song
- Every single Quik's Groove
Legendary DJ Quik produced cuts (+ collaborations)
- 2pac - Late Nite
- 2pac - Heartz of Men
- Suga Free - Street Gospel (entire album)
- 2nd II None - Classic 220 (entire album)
- 2nd II None - Didn't Mean To Turn You On
- R. Kelly, DJ Quik & Mausberg - It's Like Everyday
- Tony!Toni!Tone! Let's Get Down
- Erick Sermon, DJ Quik, Xzibit - Focus
- Truth Hurts - Addictive
- Danny Boy - Come When I Call
- Luniz & Raphael Saadiq - Jus Mee & You
- Xzibit, Suga Free, DJ Quik - Sorry I'm Away So Much
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dj uneek was a better producer then daz or warren g. :-*
NAAH BUT HE UP THERE
:nawty:
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UR HIGHLY UNDERRATING WARREN G
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UR HIGHLY UNDERRATING WARREN G
Warren G's a true legend but his Achilles Heel is he can't hear it when he's being wack
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Sir Jinx
(vintage sir jinx)
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UR HIGHLY UNDERRATING WARREN G
Warren G's a true legend but his Achilles Heel is he can't hear it when he's being wack
yet all his albums are at least solid, at worst
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UR HIGHLY UNDERRATING WARREN G
Warren G's a true legend but his Achilles Heel is he can't hear it when he's being wack
yet all his albums are at least solid, at worst
True. Even G-Files is a 6/10 (tho everyone seems to hate it)
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UR HIGHLY UNDERRATING WARREN G
Thank you. Warren G to me is at least top 5. It's why I haven't voted, 'cause they ain't no Warren G. This poll is invalid.
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UR HIGHLY UNDERRATING WARREN G
Thank you. Warren G to me is at least top 5. It's why I haven't voted, 'cause they ain't no Warren G. This poll is invalid.
Warren would make a top 20 of anyones list
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SAFE + SOUND, DOLLAZ & SENSE, YOUZ A GANGXTA, DOWN DOWN DOWN, PITCH IN ON A PARTY, SO MANY WAYZ, TONITE
HOW FAMILIAR ARE U WIT THESE CUTS, HONESTLY?
Honestly, I'm very familiar with all the cuts you mentioned, except maybe "Safe + Sound", "Pitch In A Party" I haven't bumped that much. All the other tracks you've mentioned I've played out on repeat... Don't take me as someone who isn't a Quik fan, I love Quik and give him madd respect and props.
But those songs you mentioned are all very dope cuts, but not the stuff of legends.
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Niggarachi 8)
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the glory boys of the 90s...gotta love em.
warren g has earned his stripes but no hes not a very accomplished producer, he has classics among this niche community but none of his shit after regulate was very memorable.
all he did on regulate and a bunch of those beats was loop a sample and if your lucky warren played a moog riff over it....
once he got to doing the twinz album he was making some original compositions and his choice of samples was getting better but after he lost the def jam machene it seemed like his beats took a turn for the worst. im not sure if he lost his studio players or had to downgrade his equipment but he never really could find his groove after regulate...i want it all was a DOPE comeback effort but then the albums that followed it all sucked and yall know it.
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the glory boys of the 90s...gotta love em.
warren g has earned his stripes but no hes not a very accomplished producer, he has classics among this niche community but none of his shit after regulate was very memorable.
all he did on regulate and a bunch of those beats was loop a sample and if your lucky warren played a moog riff over it....
once he got to doing the twinz album he was making some original compositions and his choice of samples was getting better but after he lost the def jam machene it seemed like his beats took a turn for the worst. im not sure if he lost his studio players or had to downgrade his equipment but he never really could find his groove after regulate...i want it all was a DOPE comeback effort but then the albums that followed it all sucked and yall know it.
return of the regulator was fire.
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the glory boys of the 90s...gotta love em.
warren g has earned his stripes but no hes not a very accomplished producer, he has classics among this niche community but none of his shit after regulate was very memorable.
all he did on regulate and a bunch of those beats was loop a sample and if your lucky warren played a moog riff over it....
once he got to doing the twinz album he was making some original compositions and his choice of samples was getting better but after he lost the def jam machene it seemed like his beats took a turn for the worst. im not sure if he lost his studio players or had to downgrade his equipment but he never really could find his groove after regulate...i want it all was a DOPE comeback effort but then the albums that followed it all sucked and yall know it.
nice post, and good info about the equipment he was using, Def Jam machine, etc..
I do disagree slightly in saying "all he did" on Regulate was loop samples and that his choice of samples later IMPROVED. It's hard to IMPROVE on perfection and the G Funk Era album was the West Coast version of Nas Illmatic in my opinion it was perfection.
I also disagree slightly with you saying all his albums after I Want It All "sucked", don't forget The Return Of The Regulator had some dope cuts on there
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SAFE + SOUND, DOLLAZ & SENSE, YOUZ A GANGXTA, DOWN DOWN DOWN, PITCH IN ON A PARTY, SO MANY WAYZ, TONITE
HOW FAMILIAR ARE U WIT THESE CUTS, HONESTLY?
Honestly, I'm very familiar with all the cuts you mentioned, except maybe "Safe + Sound", "Pitch In A Party" I haven't bumped that much. All the other tracks you've mentioned I've played out on repeat... Don't take me as someone who isn't a Quik fan, I love Quik and give him madd respect and props.
But those songs you mentioned are all very dope cuts, but not the stuff of legends.
THATS FLAT OUT WRONG
DJ QUIK IS A LEGEND IN HIS OWN RIGHT, AND EVERY RAPPER AND PRODUCER U MENTIONED WILL VOUCH FOR THAT.
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the glory boys of the 90s...gotta love em.
warren g has earned his stripes but no hes not a very accomplished producer, he has classics among this niche community but none of his shit after regulate was very memorable.
all he did on regulate and a bunch of those beats was loop a sample and if your lucky warren played a moog riff over it....
once he got to doing the twinz album he was making some original compositions and his choice of samples was getting better but after he lost the def jam machene it seemed like his beats took a turn for the worst. im not sure if he lost his studio players or had to downgrade his equipment but he never really could find his groove after regulate...i want it all was a DOPE comeback effort but then the albums that followed it all sucked and yall know it.
return of the regulator was fire.
its not bad by no means but saying its fire is a bit of a ducktale
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the glory boys of the 90s...gotta love em.
warren g has earned his stripes but no hes not a very accomplished producer, he has classics among this niche community but none of his shit after regulate was very memorable.
all he did on regulate and a bunch of those beats was loop a sample and if your lucky warren played a moog riff over it....
once he got to doing the twinz album he was making some original compositions and his choice of samples was getting better but after he lost the def jam machene it seemed like his beats took a turn for the worst. im not sure if he lost his studio players or had to downgrade his equipment but he never really could find his groove after regulate...i want it all was a DOPE comeback effort but then the albums that followed it all sucked and yall know it.
return of the regulator was fire.
its not bad by no means but saying its fire is a bit of a ducktale
word.. ROTR had it's moments but it wasn't "fire"
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THATS FLAT OUT WRONG
DJ QUIK IS A LEGEND IN HIS OWN RIGHT, AND EVERY RAPPER AND PRODUCER U MENTIONED WILL VOUCH FOR THAT.
You can't be a legend without legendary tracks. DJ Quik's career was always on the cusp of legendary status. He's like the B Team of West Coast greatest. On the A team you got 2pac, Dre, Snoop, Daz, Kurupt, Ice Cube, Nate Dogg, Warren G, Xzibit, etc... then on the B team you have the likes of DOC, DJ Quik, Rass Kass, Tray Dee, Johnny J, etc.
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I still think everything Warren G did for other artist was straight fire. His own stuff is to be desired, but tracks like That's Gangsta by Kurupt, Nobody Does It Better with Nate Dogg, Sassy Ways with 213 and other tracks are straight fire. Not sure if Warren is not confident in himself as a rapper to give himself the good beats (although I would say Warren G the rapper is not that good) but I don't judge Warren G by his albums, but what he gave others or what beats he used when others were featured on his track. That Warren G is only second to DJ Quik and Dr. Dre in my opinion.
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I still think everything Warren G did for other artist was straight fire. His own stuff is to be desired, but tracks like That's Gangsta by Kurupt, Nobody Does It Better with Nate Dogg, Sassy Ways with 213 and other tracks are straight fire. Not sure if Warren is not confident in himself as a rapper to give himself the good beats (although I would say Warren G the rapper is not that good) but I don't judge Warren G by his albums, but what he gave others or what beats he used when others were featured on his track. That Warren G is only second to DJ Quik and Dr. Dre in my opinion.
wow... for us both being big time Warren G fans I totally disagree with all the details of this post.
First of all, "Sassy Ways" was a Warren G song on a Warren G album.
Warren G gave himself all of his best beats. His best beats are on G Funk Era, "Regulate", "Do You See", "Recognize", "So Many Ways" are the all time great, classic, timeless Warren G beats. He is very under-rated as a rapper, as his voice, flow and lyrics always matched the nostalgic sound of his production. Another lesser known classic of his was, "Still Can't Fade It" off the Show Soundtrack (best soundtrack of all time).
I think he also had some of his best beats on the Twinz Conversation album but you didn't mention any of those cuts.
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dj uneek was a better producer then daz or warren g. :-*
Good point.. I forgot about that nicca... I don't know if he's better than Daz or Warren G but he's up there. I guess I just always forget about him since Bone isn't from the West Coast
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the glory boys of the 90s...gotta love em.
warren g has earned his stripes but no hes not a very accomplished producer, he has classics among this niche community but none of his shit after regulate was very memorable.
all he did on regulate and a bunch of those beats was loop a sample and if your lucky warren played a moog riff over it....
once he got to doing the twinz album he was making some original compositions and his choice of samples was getting better but after he lost the def jam machene it seemed like his beats took a turn for the worst. im not sure if he lost his studio players or had to downgrade his equipment but he never really could find his groove after regulate...i want it all was a DOPE comeback effort but then the albums that followed it all sucked and yall know it.
"return of the regulator" and "in the mid-nite hour" were both dope albums....."g-files" had some nice cuts, as well. his production helped define g-funk and his style became one of the wests staple sounds. has nothin to do with glory boys or any of that shit, the guy is a bonafide west coast legend, one of my favorite producers from any coast. i dont think ive heard a whack warren g beat. i dont think any producer is as good with the smooth shit as warren.
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THATS FLAT OUT WRONG
DJ QUIK IS A LEGEND IN HIS OWN RIGHT, AND EVERY RAPPER AND PRODUCER U MENTIONED WILL VOUCH FOR THAT.
You can't be a legend without legendary tracks. DJ Quik's career was always on the cusp of legendary status. He's like the B Team of West Coast greatest. On the A team you got 2pac, Dre, Snoop, Daz, Kurupt, Ice Cube, Nate Dogg, Warren G, Xzibit, etc... then on the B team you have the likes of DOC, DJ Quik, Rass Kass, Tray Dee, Johnny J, etc.
quik goes with the first group, homie....take it from an LA head. ask any of those 9 artists u listed whether dj quik is a first rate legend, and all will jump up enthusiastically to say yes...guaranteed.
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I still think everything Warren G did for other artist was straight fire. His own stuff is to be desired, but tracks like That's Gangsta by Kurupt, Nobody Does It Better with Nate Dogg, Sassy Ways with 213 and other tracks are straight fire. Not sure if Warren is not confident in himself as a rapper to give himself the good beats (although I would say Warren G the rapper is not that good) but I don't judge Warren G by his albums, but what he gave others or what beats he used when others were featured on his track. That Warren G is only second to DJ Quik and Dr. Dre in my opinion.
wow... for us both being big time Warren G fans I totally disagree with all the details of this post.
First of all, "Sassy Ways" was a Warren G song on a Warren G album.
Warren G gave himself all of his best beats. His best beats are on G Funk Era, "Regulate", "Do You See", "Recognize", "So Many Ways" are the all time great, classic, timeless Warren G beats. He is very under-rated as a rapper, as his voice, flow and lyrics always matched the nostalgic sound of his production. Another lesser known classic of his was, "Still Can't Fade It" off the Show Soundtrack (best soundtrack of all time).
I think he also had some of his best beats on the Twinz Conversation album but you didn't mention any of those cuts.
I thought the Twinz album was just a given? LOL, that's like saying the sky is blue.
G Funk Era is the 2nd best album he produced. But outside of G Funk Era, I do think he has lost some confidence in his own rapping abilities. But well his other album productions have been mixed as tracks that have a feature are great, solo tracks not so much, his work for others is top notch.
Just a quick run down of Warren tracks.
Indo Smoke - Mr. Grimm
How Long Will they Mourn Me - 2Pac
Biological Didn't Bother - Shaq
What We Go Through - ft. Mr. Malik, Bad Azz, Perfec
Lie to Kick It - 2Pac
Definition of a Thug Nigga - 2Pac
Nobody Does It Better - Nate Dogg
That's Gangsta - Kurupt
Game Don't Wait - ft. 213
Big Bang Theory - Tha Eastsidaz
I can go on.
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I thought the Twinz album was just a given? LOL, that's like saying the sky is blue.
G Funk Era is the 2nd best album he produced. But outside of G Funk Era, I do think he has lost some confidence in his own rapping abilities. But well his other album productions have been mixed as tracks that have a feature are great, solo tracks not so much, his work for others is top notch.
Just a quick run down of Warren tracks.
Indo Smoke - Mr. Grimm
How Long Will they Mourn Me - 2Pac
Biological Didn't Bother - Shaq
What We Go Through - ft. Mr. Malik, Bad Azz, Perfec
Lie to Kick It - 2Pac
Definition of a Thug Nigga - 2Pac
Nobody Does It Better - Nate Dogg
That's Gangsta - Kurupt
Game Don't Wait - ft. 213
Big Bang Theory - Tha Eastsidaz
I can go on.
MDogg.. you are slippin homie.. I know I'm kind of splitting hairs with you but for a Warren G fan you should know better. First you said "Sassy Ways" wasn't a Warren G song and now you mentioned "What We Go Through" as not being a Warren G song. Both of those tracks featured Warren G and were cuts off Warren G albums.
Other than that, you made some decent mentions. I've had the album forever but for some reason I didn't know that Warren produced "Big Bang Theory" off the Eastsidaz album. One day we need to get a Snoop interview on here and really figure out what his opinion is of Warren G as an artist and producer and why he never supported his best friend much by using his production.
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I thought the Twinz album was just a given? LOL, that's like saying the sky is blue.
G Funk Era is the 2nd best album he produced. But outside of G Funk Era, I do think he has lost some confidence in his own rapping abilities. But well his other album productions have been mixed as tracks that have a feature are great, solo tracks not so much, his work for others is top notch.
Just a quick run down of Warren tracks.
Indo Smoke - Mr. Grimm
How Long Will they Mourn Me - 2Pac
Biological Didn't Bother - Shaq
What We Go Through - ft. Mr. Malik, Bad Azz, Perfec
Lie to Kick It - 2Pac
Definition of a Thug Nigga - 2Pac
Nobody Does It Better - Nate Dogg
That's Gangsta - Kurupt
Game Don't Wait - ft. 213
Big Bang Theory - Tha Eastsidaz
I can go on.
MDogg.. you are slippin homie.. I know I'm kind of splitting hairs with you but for a Warren G fan you should know better. First you said "Sassy Ways" wasn't a Warren G song and now you mentioned "What We Go Through" as not being a Warren G song. Both of those tracks featured Warren G and were cuts off Warren G albums.
Other than that, you made some decent mentions. I've had the album forever but for some reason I didn't know that Warren produced "Big Bang Theory" off the Eastsidaz album. One day we need to get a Snoop interview on here and really figure out what his opinion is of Warren G as an artist and producer and why he never supported his best friend much by using his production.
misinformation-dogg strikes again.....game dont wait was also on a warren g album lol
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Actually, if you read my post, I said Warren G songs with a feature as well as songs Warren G produced for others. So Sassy Ways, What We Go Through and Game Don't Wait all fall in the tracks on the album that have a feature.
I thought the Twinz album was just a given? LOL, that's like saying the sky is blue.
G Funk Era is the 2nd best album he produced. But outside of G Funk Era, I do think he has lost some confidence in his own rapping abilities. But well his other album productions have been mixed as tracks that have a feature are great, solo tracks not so much, his work for others is top notch.
Just a quick run down of Warren tracks.
Indo Smoke - Mr. Grimm
How Long Will they Mourn Me - 2Pac
Biological Didn't Bother - Shaq
What We Go Through - ft. Mr. Malik, Bad Azz, Perfec
Lie to Kick It - 2Pac
Definition of a Thug Nigga - 2Pac
Nobody Does It Better - Nate Dogg
That's Gangsta - Kurupt
Game Don't Wait - ft. 213
Big Bang Theory - Tha Eastsidaz
I can go on.
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misinformation-dogg strikes again.....game dont wait was also on a warren g album lol
word.. he slipped that one by me.. and lol@mis-information dogg
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misinformation-dogg strikes again.....game dont wait was also on a warren g album lol
Scittles, when will we stop arguing with each other and calling each other names?
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Actually, if you read my post, I said Warren G songs with a feature as well as songs Warren G produced for others. So Sassy Ways, What We Go Through and Game Don't Wait all fall in the tracks on the album that have a feature.
What the fuck? That's madd confusing homie. Warren G is like Dre, he's a producer first, an artist second. So naturally most of his tracks will have features. I guess now I get your point but that shit was madd confusing. In fact, I still don't get it
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quik goes with the first group, homie....take it from an LA head. ask any of those 9 artists u listed whether dj quik is a first rate legend, and all will jump up enthusiastically to say yes...guaranteed.
Come on homie.. that line of argument has to fall under the category of some kind of logical fallacy....
Most rappers make for horrible music critics. They will say damn near anything is dope, and that everyone they like. Pac was like the only rapper that kept shit real in interviews when questioned about other rappers music.
They will always give a favorable rating on anybody. Ask them if Jay-Z or Lil Wayne is a legend and they will probably say yes.
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the glory boys of the 90s...gotta love em.
warren g has earned his stripes but no hes not a very accomplished producer, he has classics among this niche community but none of his shit after regulate was very memorable.
all he did on regulate and a bunch of those beats was loop a sample and if your lucky warren played a moog riff over it....
once he got to doing the twinz album he was making some original compositions and his choice of samples was getting better but after he lost the def jam machene it seemed like his beats took a turn for the worst. im not sure if he lost his studio players or had to downgrade his equipment but he never really could find his groove after regulate...i want it all was a DOPE comeback effort but then the albums that followed it all sucked and yall know it.
Conversation is to me the best production effort Warren G has ever done, it's when he reached his climax (no homo) as a producer. Smooth G-Funk at its finest.
As a rapper Warren G is trash, I mean I love him but I was just playin Regulate and TALOYS lately and aside from "warren geezy weezy from the LBC, me and Snoop grew up together, he's the MC i'M the DJ" he doesn't say much. He's dope on occasion though and does dope hooks as he did for The Twinz for example, but an album worth of Warren G can make you nauseous. That's why I think Conversation aged much better than Regulate.
As a producer Warren G is dope as fuck, his catalogue is very nice. As NIKCC said I don't think I ever heard a bad Warren G production. I like what Pete Rock said about Warren G on twitter : "Yo,there is a reason why my head kept bouncing to da jeezy song with neo,cuz the G-FUNK REGULATOR did it,Wow didn't know that. Smh Warren G Was always Dat dude tho,his feel on shit is official. #myera"
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Actually, if you read my post, I said Warren G songs with a feature as well as songs Warren G produced for others. So Sassy Ways, What We Go Through and Game Don't Wait all fall in the tracks on the album that have a feature.
What the fuck? That's madd confusing homie. Warren G is like Dre, he's a producer first, an artist second. So naturally most of his tracks will have features. I guess now I get your point but that shit was madd confusing. In fact, I still don't get it
Yeah, most of what I wrote earlier was typing well my kid was eating diner, so it was rushed.
Here it all is very simple.
Warren G producing other peoples' tracks, great
When Warren G puts a feature on his album, great
When Warren G does a solo track with no features, meh, except his first album.
But solo Warren G tracks include I Shot the Sheriff, Transformers, and even I Want It All with Mack 10, which was majority Warren G with a couple of Mack 10 bars. Those tracks to me were okay, but I think Warren could have had better tracks. Well he gave himself Transformers, Kurupt got That's Gangsta. Well Warren G was trying to make I Want It All a single, Nate Dogg had Nobody Does It Better, when Warren G decided to let Dre produce his single Lookin' at You, which was as generic a Dre beat as you can get, Warren had Sassy Ways left on the album and never released it as a single. He did the whole In the Mid-Nite Hour album with Bishop, but gave Ice Cube - Race Card.
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Conversation is to me the best production effort Warren G has ever done, it's when he reached his climax (no homo) as a producer. Smooth G-Funk at its finest.
As a rapper Warren G is trash, I mean I love him but I was just playin Regulate and TALOYS lately and aside from "warren geezy weezy from the LBC, me and Snoop grew up together, he's the MC i'M the DJ" he doesn't say much. He's dope on occasion though and does dope hooks as he did for The Twinz for example, but an album worth of Warren G can make you nauseous. That's why I think Conversation aged much better than Regulate.
As a producer Warren G is dope as fuck, his catalogue is very nice. As NIKCC said I don't think I ever heard a bad Warren G production. I like what Pete Rock said about Warren G on twitter : "Yo,there is a reason why my head kept bouncing to da jeezy song with neo,cuz the G-FUNK REGULATOR did it,Wow didn't know that. Smh Warren G Was always Dat dude tho,his feel on shit is official. #myera"
I don't know that you can argue that Warren can't rap and then talk up the Conversation album in the same sentence. Because the Twinz and Warren G both rap with pretty much the same vocabulary, and I would argue that Warren's lyrics are a little doper considering he's had a lot more experiences to draw from than the Twinz. You could maybe argue that the Twinz have a better flow, but even then I would disagree cause I think Warren is smooth on the mic and a perfect match for his beats.
I think because Dre and Warren are known as producers that people often sleep on their abilities to rap. But I've never heard a verse from either of them that I didn't like.
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Conversation is to me the best production effort Warren G has ever done, it's when he reached his climax (no homo) as a producer. Smooth G-Funk at its finest.
As a rapper Warren G is trash, I mean I love him but I was just playin Regulate and TALOYS lately and aside from "warren geezy weezy from the LBC, me and Snoop grew up together, he's the MC i'M the DJ" he doesn't say much. He's dope on occasion though and does dope hooks as he did for The Twinz for example, but an album worth of Warren G can make you nauseous. That's why I think Conversation aged much better than Regulate.
As a producer Warren G is dope as fuck, his catalogue is very nice. As NIKCC said I don't think I ever heard a bad Warren G production. I like what Pete Rock said about Warren G on twitter : "Yo,there is a reason why my head kept bouncing to da jeezy song with neo,cuz the G-FUNK REGULATOR did it,Wow didn't know that. Smh Warren G Was always Dat dude tho,his feel on shit is official. #myera"
I don't know that you can argue that Warren can't rap and then talk up the Conversation album in the same sentence. Because the Twinz and Warren G both rap with pretty much the same vocabulary, and I would argue that Warren's lyrics are a little doper considering he's had a lot more experiences to draw from than the Twinz. You could maybe argue that the Twinz have a better flow, but even then I would disagree cause I think Warren is smooth on the mic and a perfect match for his beats.
I think because Dre and Warren are known as producers that people often sleep on their abilities to rap. But I've never heard a verse from either of them that I didn't like.
Trip Locc & Wayniac a dope MC's, they have better technique and put together better verses than Warren, you need to listen again. They punch better, they flow better, they are accomplished MC's. The Twinz rank among the better Long Beach rappers (with Bad Azz, Tray Deee or MNMsta from Foesum). As for the content of the lyrics, it's still better than the two different subject matters Warren G ever touched on in his career (his youth with Snoopy and Nate and his dealing with success and everything that comes with it : revenge, haters, dickriders). Dre is a better rapper than Warren G, mainly because he's more of a perfectionist and gets his shit ghostwritten by the best MC's, then again Warren G puts more soul into his rap but the lack of subject matter is really redundant. He does get some of his shit ghostwritten too (by Bad Azz, among others).
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after return of the regulator shit just got real bland and flat sounding is the best way i can put it.
his music lost that polished sound those funky ass bass lines etc. hes ALWAYS had good concepts though some times his executions fall short. i seen so much potential in his remake for village ghetto land but it also fell a little short of where i wanted to see him push it. i enjoyed those remixes he did for groupie love it proved hes still got the chops i think he needs access to more musicians.
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G Dubbs got a pretty respectibe discography for a producer/rapper. Even his lesser or inconstant albums (like I Want It All) are a good listen when you're in the mood for that smooth sound. He's 'fallen off' but its only that studio money he's lacking. And you could make a classic album out of his best tracks 8)
7
Regulate..
Take a Look
6.5
I Want I All
Return..
Mid Nite Hour
6
G-Files
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This is a no-brainer for me. DJ Quik will always be my 2nd favourite rap producer of all time behind Dr. Dre. Sometimes I put him first depending on how I'm feeling on the day.
If I had to round it out to 3, I would put both Daz and Battlecat there as they've both produced a lot of classic songs over the years. I would like to put Jonny J in there but, although he crafted some of 2Pac's best and most memorable records, he doesn't have an extensive catalogue outside of that really.
The others in the list have also all made classic joints but again, not enough for me to put them in my top 3.
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does anyone have a good rip of that dj quik its like everyday? cant seem to find that shit anywhere
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quik goes with the first group, homie....take it from an LA head. ask any of those 9 artists u listed whether dj quik is a first rate legend, and all will jump up enthusiastically to say yes...guaranteed.
Come on homie.. that line of argument has to fall under the category of some kind of logical fallacy....
Most rappers make for horrible music critics. They will say damn near anything is dope, and that everyone they like. Pac was like the only rapper that kept shit real in interviews when questioned about other rappers music.
They will always give a favorable rating on anybody. Ask them if Jay-Z or Lil Wayne is a legend and they will probably say yes.
pac will tell u quik was a legend...u just dont know. trust me.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/CTaiyYy08Go
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Bosko is dope as hell too imo, I don't think anyone has mentioned him yet. To me he's like a bay area Battlecat, he's got that type of funk in his beats. I especially like what he did for E-40 during the "Element Of Surprise", "Charlie Hustle" and "Loyalty & Betrayal" days. Prodeje from South Central Cartel is another one, dude gets slept on hard for his productions; "N Gatz We Truss", "All Day Everyday", "Kickin' Game" are all classic albums imo. Madness 4 Real is another dude that was dope back in the day, the stuff he did for WC (check Dub's "Curb Servin'" album) and Ruthless was sick (Eazy-E's "Luv 4 Dem Gangsta'z" is one of my favorite Madness 4 Real tracks). For me the list goes like this, there's so many I can keep going though; they're all tight it's hard to put them in order specially the top 5, it depends on my mood. Quik is definitely #1 tho'.
1. DJ Quik
2. Battlecat
3. DJ Pooh / Fredwreck (like 'em both equally)
4. Daz & Soopafly (they've done so much together that I can't put one before the other)
5. Dr. Dre
6. Cold 187 / Warren G (like 'em both equally)
7. DJ Muggs
8. Shock G
9. Prodeje
10. Bosko / Madness 4 Real (like 'em both equally, I would have put them higher but I just wish they would have done more)
I almost forgot about Muggs and Shock G, I had to edit my top ten and put them on.
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boskos pretty cool i remember hearing a song he did in the 90s acalled bombay that was my jam but i never heard much besides that and the stuff he did for other ppl
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G Dubbs got a pretty respectibe discography for a producer/rapper. Even his lesser or inconstant albums (like I Want It All) are a good listen when you're in the mood for that smooth sound. He's 'fallen off' but its only that studio money he's lacking. And you could make a classic album out of his best tracks 8)
7
Regulate..
Take a Look
6.5
I Want I All
Return..
Mid Nite Hour
6
G-Files
There u go, understating classics again .. Regulate is a 7 and Kendrick's album is a 7.5?? lmfao
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Fingazz, Meech, Jellyroll, Fredwreck, Blaqtoven, Rick Rock, Mel Man
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G Dubbs got a pretty respectibe discography for a producer/rapper. Even his lesser or inconstant albums (like I Want It All) are a good listen when you're in the mood for that smooth sound. He's 'fallen off' but its only that studio money he's lacking. And you could make a classic album out of his best tracks 8)
7
Regulate..
Take a Look
6.5
I Want I All
Return..
Mid Nite Hour
6
G-Files
Did you give Regulate a 7? WTF, in terms of production, every single track was damn near perfection! Rapping wise, well I'd say it dropped it to about 8.5-9. But it's still damn near a classic based on being one of the best produced albums in Hip-Hop.
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G Dubbs got a pretty respectibe discography for a producer/rapper. Even his lesser or inconstant albums (like I Want It All) are a good listen when you're in the mood for that smooth sound. He's 'fallen off' but its only that studio money he's lacking. And you could make a classic album out of his best tracks 8)
7
Regulate..
Take a Look
6.5
I Want I All
Return..
Mid Nite Hour
6
G-Files
Did you give Regulate a 7? WTF, in terms of production, every single track was damn near perfection! Rapping wise, well I'd say it dropped it to about 8.5-9. But it's still damn near a classic based on being one of the best produced albums in Hip-Hop.
his rating pass has officially been revoked.
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G Dubbs got a pretty respectibe discography for a producer/rapper. Even his lesser or inconstant albums (like I Want It All) are a good listen when you're in the mood for that smooth sound. He's 'fallen off' but its only that studio money he's lacking. And you could make a classic album out of his best tracks 8)
7
Regulate..
Take a Look
6.5
I Want I All
Return..
Mid Nite Hour
6
G-Files
Did you give Regulate a 7? WTF, in terms of production, every single track was damn near perfection! Rapping wise, well I'd say it dropped it to about 8.5-9. But it's still damn near a classic based on being one of the best produced albums in Hip-Hop.
his rating pass has officially been revoked.
Imagine if Snoop would have graced Regulate with a couple of verses. That would have been a 5 star classic! Am I wrong...
but yeah, Do Buy Albums can't rate at least 90's westcoast Hip-Hop.
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regulate is perfect the way it is...it's a classic album, and any1 who rates it a 7 has no credibility when it comes to west coast rap
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regulate is perfect the way it is...it's a classic album, and any1 who rates it a 7 has no credibility when it comes to west coast rap
LOOOOL call it a 9.5/10 if you want Nik 8)
Warrens 'cat sat on the mat' rappin kills it for me.
The album as a whole is 7/10 = very good dope but no more. Which also ties it with Reasonable Doubt. ;)
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u give "good kid maad city" a 7.5 and "regulate" a 7
stop
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u give "good kid maad city" a 7.5 and "regulate" a 7
stop
Yeah Regulate the album, not the song
Start
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regulate is perfect the way it is...it's a classic album, and any1 who rates it a 7 has no credibility when it comes to west coast rap
In order to go full 10, I always ask myself could it be better, in which I'd say Regulate could have used a feature from Snoop or at least DPG. Maybe it's because at the time, Warren and Snoop were seen as best friends that everyone thought Snoop would be on the album. But aside from that, it's damn near flawless on the production side, I just have a hard time calling it perfect. But it's a classic, and part of what makes a classic album classic are little flaws. Like Warren spelling next... n...x...e...t... LMAO. It's like Baby Be Mine on the Thriller album. If you listen closely, you can hear when they changed the pitch of the song mid song... LOL... but that's what makes it classic. Little flaws like that add something to it. Still I have a hard time giving Regulate anything over a 9, but I actually think 8.5 is too low.
Besides, it's stood the test of time for almost 20 years. If that don't make it a classic, then I don't know.
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FINISH HIM!
u give "good kid maad city" a 7.5 and "regulate" a 7
stop
Yeah Regulate the album, not the song
Start
*FINISHED*
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Bosko is dope as hell too imo, I don't think anyone has mentioned him yet. To me he's like a bay area Battlecat, he's got that type of funk in his beats. I especially like what he did for E-40 during the "Element Of Surprise", "Charlie Hustle" and "Loyalty & Betrayal" days. Prodeje from South Central Cartel is another one, dude gets slept on hard for his productions; "N Gatz We Truss", "All Day Everyday", "Kickin' Game" are all classic albums imo. Madness 4 Real is another dude that was dope back in the day, the stuff he did for WC (check Dub's "Curb Servin'" album) and Ruthless was sick (Eazy-E's "Luv 4 Dem Gangsta'z" is one of my favorite Madness 4 Real tracks). For me the list goes like this, there's so many I can keep going though; they're all tight it's hard to put them in order specially the top 5, it depends on my mood. Quik is definitely #1 tho'.
1. DJ Quik
2. Battlecat
3. DJ Pooh / Fredwreck (like 'em both equally)
4. Daz & Soopafly (they've done so much together that I can't put one before the other)
5. Dr. Dre
6. Cold 187 / Warren G (like 'em both equally)
7. DJ Muggs
8. Shock G
9. Prodeje
10. Bosko / Madness 4 Real (like 'em both equally, I would have put them higher but I just wish they would have done more)
I almost forgot about Muggs and Shock G, I had to edit my top ten and put them on.
bosko's dope, and dude can sing too (cf. Tremendous Damage on Vicious Lies and Dangerous Rumors).
I forgot Prode'je but I thought about him later on, dude has a crazy catalogue but he owes a lot to his co-producers though (Robert Bacon & Tommy Mundy).
Madness 4 Real are from Denmark though
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I forgot Prode'je but I thought about him later on, dude has a crazy catalogue but he owes a lot to his co-producers though (Robert Bacon & Tommy Mundy).
That's true of just about every great producer.
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dre
madlib
dj quick
alchemist
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King Tee
Kid Frost
Westcoast Stone (2 underrated imo)
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regulate is perfect the way it is...it's a classic album, and any1 who rates it a 7 has no credibility when it comes to west coast rap
this.
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7 out of ten would be a VERY generous rating if were ranking it amongst all hip hop if were only talking westcoast id say seven is about appropriate.
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Bosko is dope as hell too imo, I don't think anyone has mentioned him yet. To me he's like a bay area Battlecat, he's got that type of funk in his beats. I especially like what he did for E-40 during the "Element Of Surprise", "Charlie Hustle" and "Loyalty & Betrayal" days. Prodeje from South Central Cartel is another one, dude gets slept on hard for his productions; "N Gatz We Truss", "All Day Everyday", "Kickin' Game" are all classic albums imo. Madness 4 Real is another dude that was dope back in the day, the stuff he did for WC (check Dub's "Curb Servin'" album) and Ruthless was sick (Eazy-E's "Luv 4 Dem Gangsta'z" is one of my favorite Madness 4 Real tracks). For me the list goes like this, there's so many I can keep going though; they're all tight it's hard to put them in order specially the top 5, it depends on my mood. Quik is definitely #1 tho'.
1. DJ Quik
2. Battlecat
3. DJ Pooh / Fredwreck (like 'em both equally)
4. Daz & Soopafly (they've done so much together that I can't put one before the other)
5. Dr. Dre
6. Cold 187 / Warren G (like 'em both equally)
7. DJ Muggs
8. Shock G
9. Prodeje
10. Bosko / Madness 4 Real (like 'em both equally, I would have put them higher but I just wish they would have done more)
I almost forgot about Muggs and Shock G, I had to edit my top ten and put them on.
bosko's dope, and dude can sing too (cf. Tremendous Damage on Vicious Lies and Dangerous Rumors).
I forgot Prode'je but I thought about him later on, dude has a crazy catalogue but he owes a lot to his co-producers though (Robert Bacon & Tommy Mundy).
Madness 4 Real are from Denmark though
didnt know them dudes were from denmark...didnt know rob bacon was the one playing on alot of those prodeje productions...i wasnt a huge fan of theirs but i heard all their shit from my homeboys. that song they had on the show stdk went hard. and so did that cd that havikk and prodege did with LV all over almost every song.
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7 out of ten would be a VERY generous rating if were ranking it amongst all hip hop if were only talking westcoast id say seven is about appropriate.
Thank you.
Typical West Coast headz™ ain't taking lyricism and song writing into account. Only the production sound and delivery.
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i dont want to take away from the impact it had on the culture at the time because that was a huge album but that shit did NOT age well.
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i dont want to take away from the impact it had on the culture at the time because that was a huge album but that shit did NOT age well.
The lead single is a part of modern pop culture.
If Warren had 11 more Regulates on the album we'd be talking Doggystyle status.
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id put pharcydes first album before regulate
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id put pharcydes first album before regulate
Overall, yes, I agree. But I would put the production of Regulate over Pharcyde.
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id put pharcydes first album before regulate
I rate them the same actually.
I loved that track they did on Heavy Rhyme Experience since it came out ahead of the album, but they ain't got enough in em to fill a CD. Most of its just goofball stuff, just kidz in a studio. Production is gorgeous tho.
The albums both follow the format of all the main work put into the singles (a mainstream thing). Not knocking Warren for that btw Nik
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7 out of ten would be a VERY generous rating if were ranking it amongst all hip hop if were only talking westcoast id say seven is about appropriate.
Thank you.
Typical West Coast headz™ ain't taking lyricism and song writing into account. Only the production sound and delivery.
Fuck that... beatheoven and Mozart didn't have any lyrics in their music.. and they are considered the all-time greats. I can't imagine someone sitting back bumping Warren G's shit and being like, "ohhh that last rhyme wasn't complex enough, I decided I don't like this"
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7 out of ten would be a VERY generous rating if were ranking it amongst all hip hop if were only talking westcoast id say seven is about appropriate.
Thank you.
Typical West Coast headz™ ain't taking lyricism and song writing into account. Only the production sound and delivery.
Fuck that... beatheoven and Mozart didn't have any lyrics in their music.. and they are considered the all-time greats. I can't imagine someone sitting back bumping Warren G's shit and being like, "ohhh that last rhyme wasn't complex enough, I decided I don't like this"
Alternately - how can you fully appreciate the art of rap if you don't value better lyricism?
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By the art of flow. Snoop, even in his prime, wasn't the best lyricist. But that muthaphukka was the coldest sounding dude to ever spit.
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By the art of flow. Snoop, even in his prime, wasn't the best lyricist. But that muthaphukka was the coldest sounding dude to ever spit.
Sure. But even Snoop on Doggystyle hits a ceiling and after a time can only keep repeating himself.
It's Dre's finessing Snoops delivery, his production and the supporting cast in tandem with Snoop the MC that make it what it is (and why Snoop never got close again since).
The holy grail to some, but Chronic is better IMO and there are better still albums out there
For example
(http://s21.postimg.org/txb7mieav/1575387.jpg)
Which is why I think it's funny when someone says Regulate is a 9.5
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See, with Warren G and Regulate, you are confusing production with album quality. Of course Chronic is better than Doggystyle, Chronic might be the greatest rap album ever. Of course PE is better than Regulate, ITANOMTHUB is a fucking bad ass album! What I'm saying is just straight production. If you look at albums for nothing more than beats, Regulate... is one of the best albums ever. Regulate... was a fuckin' amazing collections of beats. As I said, overall I'd say 8.5-9.0. It's overall impact to Hip-Hop is still huge 20 years later, the single tracks were all good and the lead single is a classic track. These are things that make a great album. I'm not talking about the raps on the album, because the raps were sub-par. But as just a work of production with a producer making beats and covering up the short comings of those rapping on the album (including himself), it's a damn good album.
What's funny if you are listing classic albums to prove Regulate is not a classic. Yet this ONLY hammers home the fact that Regulate is a classic in it's own right. It's like a rapper, once you put Kendrick's name next to Jay-Z, Kendrick wins. Even though many think Kendrick is better than Jay, Jay is considered better. So just putting Kendrick in that conversation means Kendrick wins.
Same with albums, once you list actual classic albums to compare to Regulate.. you win. In order to downplay Regulate... you'd have to say something crazy, like Paper Trail or Carter III is better producted than Regulate... I already said Quik is a better producer than Warren, so you'd have to go on that list and get someone NOT Quik to say produced a whole better album than Regulate...
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i dont want to take away from the impact it had on the culture at the time because that was a huge album but that shit did NOT age well.
definitely didn't age well.
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Daz: LEGENDARY
http://www.youtube.com/v/sm58sXIYuZc?hl=en_US&version=3
DJ Quik: DOPE
http://www.youtube.com/v/i2Ri6fp8Q10?hl=en_US&version=3
Case Closed.
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lmao
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id put pharcydes first album before regulate
I rate them the same actually.
I loved that track they did on Heavy Rhyme Experience since it came out ahead of the album, but they ain't got enough in em to fill a CD. Most of its just goofball stuff, just kidz in a studio. Production is gorgeous tho.
The albums both follow the format of all the main work put into the singles (a mainstream thing). Not knocking Warren for that btw Nik
i dont know man to hear it withen the context it was created (and im not saying you guys didnt) i had this shit in 92 before anyone really even knew they were westcoast passing me by was a HUGE FUCKING RECORD and when i listented to that album as a kid it didnt come off so much as kids in a studio it reminded me of early works of the greats of jazz. alot of the songs had interludes and piano outros etc. e swift was on the best drugs his budget could afford...that album was so dope talking about it is giving me maaaaad chiiiiills son.
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7 out of ten would be a VERY generous rating if were ranking it amongst all hip hop if were only talking westcoast id say seven is about appropriate.
Thank you.
Typical West Coast headz™ ain't taking lyricism and song writing into account. Only the production sound and delivery.
Fuck that... beatheoven and Mozart didn't have any lyrics in their music.. and they are considered the all-time greats. I can't imagine someone sitting back bumping Warren G's shit and being like, "ohhh that last rhyme wasn't complex enough, I decided I don't like this"
LMFAO
you just compared two real composers to a guy who got famous for taking long loops and making one great song ( and the biggest reason it´s dope is because of Nate Dogg ) .
if you´re not trolling you´re a waste of air . well, you are anyway . if you´re trying to act smart at least learn to spell Beethoven right, royt mate
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LMFAO
you just compared two real composers to a guy who got famous for taking long loops and making one great song ( and the biggest reason it´s dope is because of Nate Dogg ) .
if you´re not trolling you´re a waste of air . well, you are anyway . if you´re trying to act smart at least learn to spell Beethoven right, royt mate
Warren G > Beethoven
(...did I spell it right last time)
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id put pharcydes first album before regulate
I rate them the same actually.
I loved that track they did on Heavy Rhyme Experience since it came out ahead of the album, but they ain't got enough in em to fill a CD. Most of its just goofball stuff, just kidz in a studio. Production is gorgeous tho.
The albums both follow the format of all the main work put into the singles (a mainstream thing). Not knocking Warren for that btw Nik
i dont know man to hear it withen the context it was created (and im not saying you guys didnt) i had this shit in 92 before anyone really even knew they were westcoast passing me by was a HUGE FUCKING RECORD and when i listented to that album as a kid it didnt come off so much as kids in a studio it reminded me of early works of the greats of jazz. alot of the songs had interludes and piano outros etc. e swift was on the best drugs his budget could afford...that album was so dope talking about it is giving me maaaaad chiiiiills son.
I'm not saying its not a very good album, and the singles are standout, great tracks. Just overall its not more than a 7 to me.
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LMFAO
you just compared two real composers to a guy who got famous for taking long loops and making one great song ( and the biggest reason it´s dope is because of Nate Dogg ) .
if you´re not trolling you´re a waste of air . well, you are anyway . if you´re trying to act smart at least learn to spell Beethoven right, royt mate
Warren G > Beethoven
(...did I spell it right last time)
bad trolling
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LMFAO
you just compared two real composers to a guy who got famous for taking long loops and making one great song ( and the biggest reason it´s dope is because of Nate Dogg ) .
if you´re not trolling you´re a waste of air . well, you are anyway . if you´re trying to act smart at least learn to spell Beethoven right, royt mate
Warren G > Beethoven
(...did I spell it right last time)
bad trolling
yeah I forgot.. you grew up bumping Beethoven and have posters of him all of your walls. Or is it you just heard someone else say he's great so you say he's great?
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LMFAO
you just compared two real composers to a guy who got famous for taking long loops and making one great song ( and the biggest reason it´s dope is because of Nate Dogg ) .
if you´re not trolling you´re a waste of air . well, you are anyway . if you´re trying to act smart at least learn to spell Beethoven right, royt mate
Warren G > Beethoven
(...did I spell it right last time)
bad trolling
yeah I forgot.. you grew up bumping Beethoven and have posters of him all of your walls. Or is it you just heard someone else say he's great so you say he's great?
i fuck with all type of music including classical music. i was listening to beethoven before i was listening to the g-child but that's not the point. that's just common sense. that's like comparing a political cartoonist to Auguste Rodin. Warren G isn't a real musician to begin with, dude barely plays the keyboard and fucks with the drum machine, he's an accomplished producer and is good at what he does but he's nowhere near the level of a full-fledged musician and composer like Beethoven. keep trolling though
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7 out of ten would be a VERY generous rating if were ranking it amongst all hip hop if were only talking westcoast id say seven is about appropriate.
Thank you.
Typical West Coast headz™ ain't taking lyricism and song writing into account. Only the production sound and delivery.
are u retarded? who the fuck wants a lyrical album from warren g? lmfao
or maybe u were looking for introspective songs written out about the devastation of cancer?
some of yall are mind-boggling. "regulate" is a classic and some of u (i guess cuz u aint from cali) dont understand the significance of that album...foreal, though, lyricism? lmfao. did u buy a wu-tang record and get upset because there wasn't enough g-funk? that level of thinkin is really somethin else.
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i dont want to take away from the impact it had on the culture at the time because that was a huge album but that shit did NOT age well.
it hasnt aged well? maybe not for u...try cruisin down the sunny streets of cali, passin up palm tree after palm tree wit a blunt in your hand while bumpin it and tell me if it aged well. u dont wanna take away from the impact? but rating it 7/10 or 3.5/5 is doin just that. u know better than that, p.
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id put pharcydes first album before regulate
I rate them the same actually.
I loved that track they did on Heavy Rhyme Experience since it came out ahead of the album, but they ain't got enough in em to fill a CD. Most of its just goofball stuff, just kidz in a studio. Production is gorgeous tho.
The albums both follow the format of all the main work put into the singles (a mainstream thing). Not knocking Warren for that btw Nik
i dont know man to hear it withen the context it was created (and im not saying you guys didnt) i had this shit in 92 before anyone really even knew they were westcoast passing me by was a HUGE FUCKING RECORD and when i listented to that album as a kid it didnt come off so much as kids in a studio it reminded me of early works of the greats of jazz. alot of the songs had interludes and piano outros etc. e swift was on the best drugs his budget could afford...that album was so dope talking about it is giving me maaaaad chiiiiills son.
I'm not saying its not a very good album, and the singles are standout, great tracks. Just overall its not more than a 7 to me.
lol so according to will, "good kid maad city" is better than "reasonable doubt", "regulate", and now "bizarre ride"....smmfh :stupid:
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good kid is not a classic yet but in about five years from now it will be in the conversation. for petes sake ;) theyre still putting out singles from it.
lets see how it resonates against the rest of his body of work in a few years.
no homo
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id put pharcydes first album before regulate
I rate them the same actually.
I loved that track they did on Heavy Rhyme Experience since it came out ahead of the album, but they ain't got enough in em to fill a CD. Most of its just goofball stuff, just kidz in a studio. Production is gorgeous tho.
The albums both follow the format of all the main work put into the singles (a mainstream thing). Not knocking Warren for that btw Nik
i dont know man to hear it withen the context it was created (and im not saying you guys didnt) i had this shit in 92 before anyone really even knew they were westcoast passing me by was a HUGE FUCKING RECORD and when i listented to that album as a kid it didnt come off so much as kids in a studio it reminded me of early works of the greats of jazz. alot of the songs had interludes and piano outros etc. e swift was on the best drugs his budget could afford...that album was so dope talking about it is giving me maaaaad chiiiiills son.
I'm not saying its not a very good album, and the singles are standout, great tracks. Just overall its not more than a 7 to me.
lol so according to will, "good kid maad city" is better than "reasonable doubt", "regulate", and now "bizarre ride"....smmfh :stupid:
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7 out of ten would be a VERY generous rating if were ranking it amongst all hip hop if were only talking westcoast id say seven is about appropriate.
Thank you.
Typical West Coast headz™ ain't taking lyricism and song writing into account. Only the production sound and delivery.
are u retarded? who the fuck wants a lyrical album from warren g? lmfao
or maybe u were looking for introspective songs written out about the devastation of cancer?
some of yall are mind-boggling. "regulate" is a classic and some of u (i guess cuz u aint from cali) dont understand the significance of that album...foreal, though, lyricism? lmfao. did u buy a wu-tang record and get upset because there wasn't enough g-funk? that level of thinkin is really somethin else.
lyricism was mr grimms job if he would have been the snoop to warrens dre regulate could have been timeless.
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That was Warren G's idea, which he even mentioned on Regulate... Personally, I liked Snoop over Warren's beats, it just fit so well, like they came up together or something like that.
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7 out of ten would be a VERY generous rating if were ranking it amongst all hip hop if were only talking westcoast id say seven is about appropriate.
Thank you.
Typical West Coast headz™ ain't taking lyricism and song writing into account. Only the production sound and delivery.
are u retarded? who the fuck wants a lyrical album from warren g? lmfao
or maybe u were looking for introspective songs written out about the devastation of cancer?
some of yall are mind-boggling. "regulate" is a classic and some of u (i guess cuz u aint from cali) dont understand the significance of that album...foreal, though, lyricism? lmfao. did u buy a wu-tang record and get upset because there wasn't enough g-funk? that level of thinkin is really somethin else.
lyricism was mr grimms job if he would have been the snoop to warrens dre regulate could have been timeless.
like i said, the album doesn't need lyricism...it aint about that. maybe if ur bumpin it in detroit, u might be gettin a different feel for it. but the album is perfect the way it is when u just tryna ride out to smooth, basic raps with harmonic melodies and simple lyrics structured around classic g-funk productions.
do u listen to a too short album for political messages? do u listen to gangstarr and get mad when the album lacks harmonizing?? or what happened to the dj samples and scratches on that do or die record?? lol.. everything serves its purpose...regulate wouldnt be as good if it were a lyrical piece of work as opposed to a simple album with smooth flows revolving around funky productions.
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quintessential westcoast album for sure, had a huge impact on culture but im being serious here in the grand scheme of things that album will not be spoken of 25 years from now as "essential listening"
it will be looked at as a sub genre like acid jazz or some shit.
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...maybe even cheesy like disco thanks to the euros and the sterotyping of the culture (cliche shit like low riders, gang shit, homie gear etc)
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quintessential westcoast album for sure, had a huge impact on culture but im being serious here in the grand scheme of things that album will not be spoken of 25 years from now as "essential listening"
it will be looked at as a sub genre like acid jazz or some shit.
maybe u wont be speakin of it 25 years from now, but for rap heads in cali or anyone into the cali rap scene in general, it will forever be an essential...and considering g-funk was the height of the west coast in its prime, i highly doubt people will look at it like acid jazz lol. its the peak sound of an entire coast mayn
but like i said, it might be different to you, bein from detroit and all. it probably doesnt sound as good when u aint exactly in the environment it was created for.
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i dont want to take away from the impact it had on the culture at the time because that was a huge album but that shit did NOT age well.
it hasnt aged well? maybe not for u...try cruisin down the sunny streets of cali, passin up palm tree after palm tree wit a blunt in your hand while bumpin it and tell me if it aged well.
Damn all this Cali talk give a Euro the weirdest boner.
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quintessential westcoast album for sure, had a huge impact on culture but im being serious here in the grand scheme of things that album will not be spoken of 25 years from now as "essential listening"
it will be looked at as a sub genre like acid jazz or some shit.
Wait a minute. It's been 20 years! How much longer do you have to wait before you admit that the album is a westcoast classic and helped shaped the culture and had a lasting impact? (damn run on sentences!) What more needs to be done? Kendrick Lamar to say this was the album that made him want to be a rapper? Kids singing Regulate in school choirs?
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It needed 12 tracks like "Regulate"... Too many throwaways like "this dj" and "do you see"
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It needed 12 tracks like "Regulate"... Too many throwaways like "this dj" and "do you see"
At least he saved some classics for the next album..
"1, 2 buckle my shoe" :rock:
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... 7, 8 warren g and Nate 8)
Another classic
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i fuck with all type of music including classical music. i was listening to beethoven before i was listening to the g-child but that's not the point. that's just common sense. that's like comparing a political cartoonist to Auguste Rodin. Warren G isn't a real musician to begin with, dude barely plays the keyboard and fucks with the drum machine, he's an accomplished producer and is good at what he does but he's nowhere near the level of a full-fledged musician and composer like Beethoven. keep trolling though
lol@you bumping Beethoven. Do you think by saying that it gives you some facade of sophistication. Because it doesn't. And.. I would bet my life on the fact that you have bumped Warren G's art 99% more than you have ever listened to Beethoven, yet you say Beethoven is greater beyond comparison because you are a sheep (follower) like most people in this world.
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i fuck with all type of music including classical music. i was listening to beethoven before i was listening to the g-child but that's not the point. that's just common sense. that's like comparing a political cartoonist to Auguste Rodin. Warren G isn't a real musician to begin with, dude barely plays the keyboard and fucks with the drum machine, he's an accomplished producer and is good at what he does but he's nowhere near the level of a full-fledged musician and composer like Beethoven. keep trolling though
lol@you bumping Beethoven. Do you think by saying that it gives you some facade of sophistication. Because it doesn't. And.. I would bet my life on the fact that you have bumped Warren G's art 99% more than you have ever listened to Beethoven, yet you say Beethoven is greater beyond comparison because you are a sheep (follower) like most people in this world.
Dude there is no hope for you if you really think Warren G is the pinnacle of the Arts over the last 200+ years
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i fuck with all type of music including classical music. i was listening to beethoven before i was listening to the g-child but that's not the point. that's just common sense. that's like comparing a political cartoonist to Auguste Rodin. Warren G isn't a real musician to begin with, dude barely plays the keyboard and fucks with the drum machine, he's an accomplished producer and is good at what he does but he's nowhere near the level of a full-fledged musician and composer like Beethoven. keep trolling though
lol@you bumping Beethoven. Do you think by saying that it gives you some facade of sophistication. Because it doesn't. And.. I would bet my life on the fact that you have bumped Warren G's art 99% more than you have ever listened to Beethoven, yet you say Beethoven is greater beyond comparison because you are a sheep (follower) like most people in this world.
Mr. Bouli Roquefort made some really good points in his post and I am not sure why you feel the need to place personal judgment on him for it.
Understanding and appreciating Beethoven over Warren G actually does give one a level of sophistication.
You shouldn't bet your life away unless you are prepared to lose it.
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It needed 12 tracks like "Regulate"... Too many throwaways like "this dj" and "do you see"
LMAO... because those weren't all over the radio either. Not a single throw away in terms of production.
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Dude there is no hope for you if you really think Warren G is the pinnacle of the Arts over the last 200+ years
There is no hope for you if you die before you really realize who you are and learn to think for yourself. All you guys biggin up Beethoven have probably never physically placed a Beethoven cd in your cd player and pressed play. Your just saying it because you are trained puppy doggs and have heard other people say it, who you deem more worthy than yourself because you don't trust what exists within your own brain.
And I never said Warren G is the pinnacle of Arts over the last 200 + years... that spot is reserved for 2pac!
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Dude there is no hope for you if you really think Warren G is the pinnacle of the Arts over the last 200+ years
There is no hope for you if you die before you really realize who you are and learn to think for yourself. All you guys biggin up Beethoven have probably never physically placed a Beethoven cd in your cd player and pressed play. Your just saying it because you are trained puppy doggs and have heard other people say it, who you deem more worthy than yourself because you don't trust what exists within your own brain.
And I never said Warren G is the pinnacle of Arts over the last 200 + years... that spot is reserved for 2pac!
Hell yeah!!
Leonardo da Vinci was like the shittiest painter too! He got nothing on Joe Cool
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Dude there is no hope for you if you really think Warren G is the pinnacle of the Arts over the last 200+ years
There is no hope for you if you die before you really realize who you are and learn to think for yourself. All you guys biggin up Beethoven have probably never physically placed a Beethoven cd in your cd player and pressed play. Your just saying it because you are trained puppy doggs and have heard other people say it, who you deem more worthy than yourself because you don't trust what exists within your own brain.
And I never said Warren G is the pinnacle of Arts over the last 200 + years... that spot is reserved for 2pac!
Hell yeah!!
Leonardo da Vinci was like the shittiest painter too! He got nothing on Joe Cool
Real shit.
Real niggas ain't sophisticated thats for suckers.
Thug life baby!!!
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Real shit.
Real niggas ain't sophisticated thats for suckers.
Thug life baby!!!
Hienz, your still the homie, don't doubt that, this is just simply a disagreement amongst friends...
...but honestly, I expect better from you. Seems like you still imagine that even though you are in doubt about the world, that somewhere, out there, there is a right and correct way of doing and judging things. That somewhere, out there, there is a world that makes sense and that you will eventually reach it.
I wish you would realize there is no such thing existing outside yourself which you must aspire to. Look within...
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Real shit.
Real niggas ain't sophisticated thats for suckers.
Thug life baby!!!
Hienz, your still the homie, don't doubt that, this is just simply a disagreement amongst friends...
...but honestly, I expect better from you. Seems like you still imagine that even though you are in doubt about the world, that somewhere, out there, there is a right and correct way of doing and judging things. That somewhere, out there, there is a world that makes sense and that you will eventually reach it.
I only wish you would realize there is no such thing existing outside yourself which you must aspire to.
You expect better than what from me?
Being myself isn't good enough for you?
Take your own advice you might need it more than me.
Thanks for the concern.
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You expect better than what from me?
Being myself isn't good enough for you?
Take your own advice you might need it more than me.
Thanks for the concern.
Alright then homie.. Keep bumpin that Beethoven shit!! And even if you don't bump it keep professing his greatness anyway!!
(pssst: The Emperor Has No Clothes)
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warren g shit slaps way harder than beethoven!
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warren g shit slaps way harder than beethoven!
Word.. nicca Beethe-Oven always wanna fuck wit dat soft shit... nicca ain't got no heart or street cred for that matter
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i fuck with all type of music including classical music. i was listening to beethoven before i was listening to the g-child but that's not the point. that's just common sense. that's like comparing a political cartoonist to Auguste Rodin. Warren G isn't a real musician to begin with, dude barely plays the keyboard and fucks with the drum machine, he's an accomplished producer and is good at what he does but he's nowhere near the level of a full-fledged musician and composer like Beethoven. keep trolling though
lol@you bumping Beethoven. Do you think by saying that it gives you some facade of sophistication. Because it doesn't. And.. I would bet my life on the fact that you have bumped Warren G's art 99% more than you have ever listened to Beethoven, yet you say Beethoven is greater beyond comparison because you are a sheep (follower) like most people in this world.
nothing really mindblowing about listening to classical music lol. I played the piano when I was a child and I own classical records, nothing extraordinary really. I couldn't care less about sounding sophisticated, I do listen to every type of music as long as I like it and that goes both ways(I fuck with cartoon and anime themes, S Club 7, Spice Girls and shit too, for nostalgia purpose mostly), I'm really not an elitist. if you think listening to classical music makes you sophisticated I feel bad for you lol. I'm not a sheep, and I think my posts on this forum clearly prove it (I said some Spice Girls songs sounded G-FUnk in some thread, very sheepish). I'm just level headed and have a little bit of common sense. Warren G's music is dope, but objectively it doesn't have shit on Beethoven. That doesn't mean we can't enjoy Warren's music more though.
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Alchemist, Madlib, DJ Khalil, Evidence, Flying Lotus, Tyler The Creator
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id put pharcydes first album before regulate
I rate them the same actually.
I loved that track they did on Heavy Rhyme Experience since it came out ahead of the album, but they ain't got enough in em to fill a CD. Most of its just goofball stuff, just kidz in a studio. Production is gorgeous tho.
The albums both follow the format of all the main work put into the singles (a mainstream thing). Not knocking Warren for that btw Nik
i dont know man to hear it withen the context it was created (and im not saying you guys didnt) i had this shit in 92 before anyone really even knew they were westcoast passing me by was a HUGE FUCKING RECORD and when i listented to that album as a kid it didnt come off so much as kids in a studio it reminded me of early works of the greats of jazz. alot of the songs had interludes and piano outros etc. e swift was on the best drugs his budget could afford...that album was so dope talking about it is giving me maaaaad chiiiiills son.
maaaad chiiiiills ? ROFL
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Can't really put them in order.
Alchemist and Madlib are legends, putting out tons and tons and tons of good quality music, sometimes their work sound a little bit rushed.
DJ Quik productions are unmatched in hip hop, but he often goes off track with his experimental stuff and the features on his albums are too often regular rappers with nothing to offer.
Dr Dre can create a whole landscape of sound that is cohesive and innovative at the same time. He is capable of bringing the best of the artists he works with. But he is a perfectionist and paranoid about his legacy as an artist.
I could go on and on and on, but I think every good producer got something that the other doesn't have, which one you consider the best is only based on your taste and how you grew up basically. How much the work of these guys influenced you on a personal level.
Quick answer? For me, DJ Quik 8)
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Ya should add Roger Troutman (of Zapp), The Unknown DJ, DJ Mike T & Slip (of CMW).
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Real shit.
Real niggas ain't sophisticated thats for suckers.
Thug life baby!!!
Hienz, your still the homie, don't doubt that, this is just simply a disagreement amongst friends...
...but honestly, I expect better from you. Seems like you still imagine that even though you are in doubt about the world, that somewhere, out there, there is a right and correct way of doing and judging things. That somewhere, out there, there is a world that makes sense and that you will eventually reach it.
I wish you would realize there is no such thing existing outside yourself which you must aspire to. Look within...
I mostly agree with your post Infinite, as i think a little bit like that. But it doesn't make sense that if you think like that, you basically judge other posters on the forum calling them sohisticated if they say they listen to Beethoven. In truth he is not a better or worse artist to listen to, and you know it, yet you claim he is doing it for some facade. Maybe he is simply enjoying beethoven and you jsut don't, and that's it. Why argue?
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Ya should add Roger Troutman (of Zapp), The Unknown DJ, DJ Mike T & Slip (of CMW).
Roger Troutman is from Dayton, Ohio and hasn't produced much for westcoast artists (he did produce songs here and there like The Click's Scandalous)
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Ya should add Roger Troutman (of Zapp), The Unknown DJ, DJ Mike T & Slip (of CMW).
Roger Troutman is from Dayton, Ohio and hasn't produced much for westcoast artists (he did produce songs here and there like The Click's Scandalous)
Roger was family, my mothers third cousin to be exact. Rest in peace to him and my mother.
He was from Hamilton not Dayton but moved here later.
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did someone just call this dj a throwaway??? W
T ACTUAL FUCK
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id put pharcydes first album before regulate
I rate them the same actually.
I loved that track they did on Heavy Rhyme Experience since it came out ahead of the album, but they ain't got enough in em to fill a CD. Most of its just goofball stuff, just kidz in a studio. Production is gorgeous tho.
The albums both follow the format of all the main work put into the singles (a mainstream thing). Not knocking Warren for that btw Nik
i dont know man to hear it withen the context it was created (and im not saying you guys didnt) i had this shit in 92 before anyone really even knew they were westcoast passing me by was a HUGE FUCKING RECORD and when i listented to that album as a kid it didnt come off so much as kids in a studio it reminded me of early works of the greats of jazz. alot of the songs had interludes and piano outros etc. e swift was on the best drugs his budget could afford...that album was so dope talking about it is giving me maaaaad chiiiiills son.
maaaad chiiiiills ? ROFL
inside joke son, just dont talk.
you always make your self look like an ass in situations like these...
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id put pharcydes first album before regulate
I rate them the same actually.
I loved that track they did on Heavy Rhyme Experience since it came out ahead of the album, but they ain't got enough in em to fill a CD. Most of its just goofball stuff, just kidz in a studio. Production is gorgeous tho.
The albums both follow the format of all the main work put into the singles (a mainstream thing). Not knocking Warren for that btw Nik
i dont know man to hear it withen the context it was created (and im not saying you guys didnt) i had this shit in 92 before anyone really even knew they were westcoast passing me by was a HUGE FUCKING RECORD and when i listented to that album as a kid it didnt come off so much as kids in a studio it reminded me of early works of the greats of jazz. alot of the songs had interludes and piano outros etc. e swift was on the best drugs his budget could afford...that album was so dope talking about it is giving me maaaaad chiiiiills son.
maaaad chiiiiills ? ROFL
inside joke son, just dont talk.
you always make your self look like an ass in situations like these...
go play in traffic clown.
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Ya should add Roger Troutman (of Zapp), The Unknown DJ, DJ Mike T & Slip (of CMW).
Roger Troutman is from Dayton, Ohio and hasn't produced much for westcoast artists (he did produce songs here and there like The Click's Scandalous)
Roger did some work with Assassin, the bay area legend. In fact he provided vocals on the outro to Assassin's second album.
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assassin is not a legend lmao. and I mean producing i'm not talking about doing vocals.
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assassin is not a legend lmao. and I mean producing i'm not talking about doing vocals.
NOT a legend? :grumpy:
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just because he did a feature with pac don't make him a legend. you only fuck with him cause he had a couple songs with pac otherwise he would not even be on your radar just like you only like Lock and Load by Lil Wayne cause Kurupt is on the hook lol. his catalogue is cool but not that impressive, he didn't have any impact in the game at the time, nobody remembers his shit, that's not a legend to me. you wanna talk about bay legends here are some : Digital Underground, The Coup, Spice 1, N2Deep,4 Tay, E-40 & The Click, The Mac, Mac Dre, Mac Mall, San Quinn, etc. but def not Assassin, an underground rapper among many others at the time
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just because he did a feature with pac don't make him a legend. you only fuck with him cause he had a couple songs with pac otherwise he would not even be on your radar just like you only like Lock and Load by Lil Wayne cause Kurupt is on the hook lol. his catalogue is cool but not that impressive, he didn't have any impact in the game at the time, nobody remembers his shit, that's not a legend to me. you wanna talk about bay legends here are some : Digital Underground, The Coup, Spice 1, N2Deep,4 Tay, E-40 & The Click, The Mac, Mac Dre, Mac Mall, San Quinn, etc. but def not Assassin, an underground rapper among many others at the time
want me to post my Assassin cd collection?
Hitworks
Born and Raised in the Bay
Worldwide Game
Armed and Dangerous
Soldiers at War
Assassin and Mopreme present black and brown pride
Revelation 2000
City of Dope
Assassin Anthology
Assassin and JT The Bigga Figga - Filmo to San Jo
Hittman 4 Hire
You think I only like him for one song he did for 2pac in 1994? lol That's a harsh judgement to make.
Assassin's rocked with the best of the california rap scene, just ask the OG's like Kurupt and Laylaw about him.
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Klientel has rocked with all the legends too.. lol
point is, assassin is a nice rapper, but far from a legend
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did klientel do jams with Pac, Shock G and Slick Rick?
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did klientel do jams with Pac, Shock G and Slick Rick?
no, but he knew pac and did shows with the outlawz and a song on their soundtrack
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did klientel do jams with Pac, Shock G and Slick Rick?
no, but he knew pac and did shows with the outlawz and a song on their soundtrack
Assassin did an entire album with Mopreme of the Outlawz :D
what bout Shock G? or Slick Rick? Kurupt? Spice 1? San Quinn?
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did klientel do jams with Pac, Shock G and Slick Rick?
no, but he knew pac and did shows with the outlawz and a song on their soundtrack
Assassin did an entire album with Mopreme of the Outlawz :D
what bout Shock G? or Slick Rick? Kurupt? Spice 1? San Quinn?
he has a cut with san quinn...done shows with kurupt and most of the dpg...i been in talks with spice 1...slick rick and shock g, no.
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well he's a good 15 years late
assassin rocked with all them cats in their primes and still does now 8)
you need to step your assassin game up my friend
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well he's a good 15 years late
assassin rocked with all them cats in their primes and still does now 8)
you need to step your assassin game up my friend
assassin is a dope rapper, dont get me wrong...but not every dope rapper is a legend.
has assassin fuxed with b-real? suga free? 4tay? l.a.m.b?
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well he's a good 15 years late
assassin rocked with all them cats in their primes and still does now 8)
you need to step your assassin game up my friend
assassin is a dope rapper, dont get me wrong...but not every dope rapper is a legend.
has assassin fuxed with b-real? suga free? 4tay? l.a.m.b?
lemmie throw a quick list of folks on assassin cds besides the ones i mentioned
rappin 4-tay
messy marv
c-bo
south central cartel (they put assassin in the game in 1992)
Locc 2 the brain
rated r (of thug life)
bloody mary
Laylaw
Cougnut
Sh'killa
RBL Posse
mr doctor (before he turned snitch lol)
levetti
money B
gonzoe
snoop dogg
macadoshis (of thug life)
dirty birt
bizzy bone
big syke
taje
plenty more but i won't continue cuz i'm bored now
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so no b-real or l.a.m.b? daymn
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lol
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Soopafly easily. Check the liner notes of every major death row release up until he left the company. He produced, or played keys on a ton of major hits. Went over with Snoop to No Limit, made "Losin Control", another major hit for Snoop (really the only decent one Snoop had once the left tha row), then Soopafly produced a bunch of major hit songs for Doggystyle Records. No man has a track record like that. DJ Quik is up there too, just a few shades under Soopafly, simply because he cares for women too much. Later on in his career Quik did beat up a woman and put her in check (his sister), but by then it was too late because Soopafly was slapping bitches around 10 years before that, so that gives him the edge in the voting.
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Soopafly easily. Check the liner notes of every major death row release up until he left the company. He produced, or played keys on a ton of major hits. Went over with Snoop to No Limit, made "Losin Control", another major hit for Snoop (really the only decent one Snoop had once the left tha row), then Soopafly produced a bunch of major hit songs for Doggystyle Records. No man has a track record like that. DJ Quik is up there too, just a few shades under Soopafly, simply because he cares for women too much. Later on in his career Quik did beat up a woman and put her in check (his sister), but by then it was too late because Soopafly was slapping bitches around 10 years before that, so that gives him the edge in the voting.
what'd he do on the chronic?
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Soopafly easily. Check the liner notes of every major death row release up until he left the company. He produced, or played keys on a ton of major hits. Went over with Snoop to No Limit, made "Losin Control", another major hit for Snoop (really the only decent one Snoop had once the left tha row), then Soopafly produced a bunch of major hit songs for Doggystyle Records. No man has a track record like that. DJ Quik is up there too, just a few shades under Soopafly, simply because he cares for women too much. Later on in his career Quik did beat up a woman and put her in check (his sister), but by then it was too late because Soopafly was slapping bitches around 10 years before that, so that gives him the edge in the voting.
what'd he do on the chronic?
just his presence in the lobby was enough to stimulate creativity through out the whole studio for weeks.