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Title: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on August 28, 2013, 10:54:07 PM
Hearing Eminem's new song "Bezerk" gave me that high I used to get every time I would hear a new song from him back in the day.   My life could not have been any worse at the time Eminem's "My Name Is" first came out.

People who lack insight, might have looked at me life on the outside and thought that it was okay.  Because I had money, suburbs, friends, athletic, my own and the typical things that teenagers are supposed to have to fit into the "American Dream" scenario.

But as Rumi writes (paraphrasing)

"Thirst and hunger are small worries,
for a thirst can be quenched
but it is the fear of hunger,
when one is full of stomach,
that can never be fulfilled."

Such a beautiful poem, that explains my life in those times.   How I interpret that poem and how it parallels my life is thus, when you are missing something obvious like food, it is not a serious problem.   For you know where to get food, and once you find it and eat you know you will feel better.   But if you have a full stomach, and still you are not satisfied, then this is a very serious problem.  Because what does one do then?

You see... A hex had been placed on me on August 22nd, 1996.  That was the day that my girlfriend, Ashley, moved away to live with her mom in Maryland.  (A couple weeks later, the greatest artist of all-time, 2pac, was murdered, btw)

It was during that time, that a Jinn placed a HEX on me.  A great HEX was put over my brain and body, making it impossible for me to think of anything other than my "Chakra".

My "chakra" started in my lower back on the 2nd Day of basketball tryouts freshman year.   I had had a sensational first day of tryouts.  I felt I had performed better than ever.  The coach brought me into the office on the 2nd Day and told me that at that point he had me down as the number 3 guard on the A team.   I felt I had given my best and still I was number 3.  I pushed myself so hard that day that I woke up the next morning with some lower back pain.  I took 4 advil to make the pain go away, and on Day 3 of tryouts I had another sensational day of practice.

But it was during those first 3 days of tryouts that I became acutely aware of my change in "Chakra".  See, my chakra during my youth had been on my inner arm and elbow.   It had given me pinpoint accuracy in throwing a baseball and in shooting a basketball.  

The "Chakra" during those years was sort of like a circular motion, like throwing a baseball, or like when Snoop and Kurupt would throw up the DPG sign  8)  Those were good years in my life.

But when the evil Jinn moved my "Chakra" moved from the lower part of my inner right arm and into my lower back, it placed a Hex over me.  For, every moving second I could think of nothing but my lower back, my pain.  I recall walking back and forth in my room at night to see if I could get myself to thinking of anything other than my "Chakra" (my lower back) while walking.  But the HEX could not be lifted.

The great HEX remained.  I was able to consciously move the HEX from my lower back to my leg, and then later to my foot.  This took the pressure off my back and allowed me to have a successful sophmore year of basketball.  But still, the HEX remained.  And every moving moment of my life, I was waking and chewing gum at the same time.  Meaning I was doing whatever I was doing and thinking of my "Chakra" at the same time.

Then Eminem came out with "My Name Is".  And the HEX was lifted.  His rhymes were a spell, that lifted the HEX from me, first through his words, and then through the art of imitation I was expressing myself and taking the excess weight off of my chakra.  

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Part 2:

There's a parable I heard once when I was traveling with a group of Sufi Muslims.  The parable goes like this...

Moses was sick.  So he prayed to God to cure him.  God responded to go to such and such tree, and there he would find the cure.  So he went to the tree and there he found the cure.  Some time passed and Moses got sick again.  So Moses went back to the tree, but this time the tree did not cure him.  He cried out to God "Why?".  God explained that the cure was never in the Tree.  The cure was in God, for God is the creator of all things.  So if you want anything you must ask of God first and God will provide the sustenance.

So although Em's music had cured me of the HEX, I had made a deal with the devil.  For I thought that it was Em and the music that had removed the HEX.  When in reality, it was Allah, because Allah is the creator of all things.  And Allah used Eminem as a means to lift the HEX upon me.

So I started following Allah.  But once again I made a mistake.  For I drowned myself so deeply into Allah, that I lost myself.  To the point that I had a spiritual breakdown while in the Emirates in 2007.

After that breakdown, I had to start my life over again from scratch.  Free of the HEX, I was able to look at myself for the first time without being overpowered by my CHAKRA.  In fact, my CHAKRA had been completely lifted so that I had no Chakra at all.  Not good Chakra or bad Chakra.

It was then that I got into individualist, Libertarian living.  I found the book by Harry Browne, How I Found Freedom In An Unfree World.   He taught about how we are always looking to other people and to something outside ourselves, when if we just take our eyes off of other entanglements, and look at ourselves and out situation, then acting alone, nobody can stop us from achieving our own freedom and happiness.

Slowly I developed positive Chakra, during 4 month long stays in Africa.   The positive Chakra now exists as a slow burn in my stomach, and it keeps me focused and moving forward.



  

Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Will_B on August 28, 2013, 11:44:52 PM
But it's wack tho
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Rick Venom on August 28, 2013, 11:50:34 PM
how come the first single off every em album is trash?
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Will_B on August 29, 2013, 03:05:30 AM
how come the first single off every em album is trash?

Pressure to meet/exceed expectations, and label bullshit
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on August 29, 2013, 07:53:22 AM
how come the first single off every em album is trash?

because your trying to hard to prove your hip-hop fan of the year... and your afraid to say you like something that pop fans like... Either that or it's ahead of it's time and it takes you time to catch up.

but fuck that.  If it's dope it's dope.  And "My Name Is", "Real Slim Shady" were both great songs.  And "Bezerk" is also a great lead single. 
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Sccit on August 29, 2013, 11:00:08 AM
how come the first single off every em album is trash?


real slim shady was a classic tho


dope thread.. i like that quote about moses n shiet
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Heinz on August 29, 2013, 11:07:54 AM
Yes the Moses story was potent.
Thanks for sharing that.
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: MUHFUKKA on August 29, 2013, 11:10:18 AM
holy shit man. im kinda at a loss for words here. you are seriously disturbed. you really still crying about your little teenage girlfriend from 17 years ago?
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on August 29, 2013, 11:17:35 AM
Let go of the past, it's gone and no matter how wishful you are of the world returning that way, it's not going to.

I get the nostalgia of a new Em single from a new Em album when he was first out when you were growing up.

But let's call a spade a spade: this song is garbage. Further, as a supposed spiritual fella, it was composed by well known satanists and you are dousing your consciousness in it. Just an FYI.
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Rick Venom on August 29, 2013, 11:20:02 AM
how come the first single off every em album is trash?

because your trying to hard to prove your hip-hop fan of the year... and your afraid to say you like something that pop fans like... Either that or it's ahead of it's time and it takes you time to catch up.
wait what? no wonder that bitch left you then.
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on August 29, 2013, 02:28:31 PM
Let go of the past, it's gone and no matter how wishful you are of the world returning that way, it's not going to.


Your right.  When does the next 2 Chainz album drop?


I get the nostalgia of a new Em single from a new Em album when he was first out when you were growing up.

But let's call a spade a spade: this song is garbage. Further, as a supposed spiritual fella, it was composed by well known satanists and you are dousing your consciousness in it. Just an FYI.

That's not it, Trippa.  I call a spade a spade and that's why I don't bump most of these new school rappers that have came out over the last 10 years.   I still bump the 90's artists, the occasional new artist, and then have gotten into Reggae and 80's love songs to make up for what I'm missing.

I was the first to say that Encore was wack, that Relapse was wack, and that Recovery wasn't horrible but still a shadow of his former self.

This is sincere, that I really think this track "Bezerk" is the bomb shit!  Maybe the rest of the album will be wack, but "Bezerk" is on some next level shit.   As for Rubin being a Satanist, I don't pick up on that from this particular track, and I am only speaking specifically on "Bezerk"... who knows what will come of the album.
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Sccit on August 29, 2013, 03:25:19 PM
U liked recovery more than relapse n encore??
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on August 29, 2013, 03:30:07 PM
"all the best bands are affiliated with Satan" - bart simpson
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on August 29, 2013, 04:59:41 PM
U liked recovery more than relapse n encore??

No.. it was just that the expectations had been lowered by the time Recovery came around.   Here's how I would put Em's albums in order (rating them in comparison to each other, with 0 being Eminem at his worst and 10 being flawless, perfection)...

1.  Marshall Mathers LP - 10 out of 10
2.  Eminem Show - 10 out of 10
3.  Slim Shady LP - 10 out of 10
4.  Encore - 4.5 out of 10
5.  Relapse - 1 out of 10  ("Beautiful", "De-Ja-Vu" and "Crack A Bottle" are the only reason I can't give this album a 0)
6.  Recovery - 2.5 out of 10
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Sccit on August 29, 2013, 05:10:17 PM
I thought relapse was much better than recovery, if only for the production... But em was also spitting more raw then he did with recovery. That album was Eminem doin an impression of some1 else... At least with relapse he was doin an impression of his earlier self.,
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on August 29, 2013, 05:15:13 PM
I thought relapse was much better than recovery, if only for the production... But em was also spitting more raw then he did with recovery. That album was Eminem doin an impression of some1 else... At least with relapse he was doin an impression of his earlier self.,

No way homie.. Relapse was the album with the gay accent.  Em was definitely someone else on that record, he was a Russian immigrant or something... I still don't get it
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on August 29, 2013, 05:16:42 PM
the only good songs on Recovery were the 2 bonus tracks
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Heinz on August 30, 2013, 10:42:10 AM
I still cannot comprehend how anyone in their right state of mind/spirit can listen to Eminem's voice without being filled with disgust/nausea.
The tonality of his voice is simply awful and he sounds like a castrated parrot on meth. I don't want that creature inside or anywhere near my mind.
But then again I am one of those sheep that prefer some Frederic Chopin or Eleni Karaindrou...




Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on August 30, 2013, 12:17:06 PM
I still cannot comprehend how anyone in their right state of mind/spirit can listen to Eminem's voice without being filled with disgust/nausea.
The tonality of his voice is simply awful and he sounds like a castrated parrot on meth. I don't want that creature inside or anywhere near my mind.
But then again I am one of those sheep that prefer some Frederic Chopin or Eleni Karaindrou...


I can understand if your talking about the second half of his career.  But certainly nothing wrong with his voice on albums like The Eminem Show
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Heinz on August 30, 2013, 02:32:22 PM
I still cannot comprehend how anyone in their right state of mind/spirit can listen to Eminem's voice without being filled with disgust/nausea.
The tonality of his voice is simply awful and he sounds like a castrated parrot on meth. I don't want that creature inside or anywhere near my mind.
But then again I am one of those sheep that prefer some Frederic Chopin or Eleni Karaindrou...


I can understand if your talking about the second half of his career.  But certainly nothing wrong with his voice on albums like The Eminem Show

His voice has always been terrible (to me).
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Sccit on August 31, 2013, 10:39:47 AM
I thought relapse was much better than recovery, if only for the production... But em was also spitting more raw then he did with recovery. That album was Eminem doin an impression of some1 else... At least with relapse he was doin an impression of his earlier self.,

No way homie.. Relapse was the album with the gay accent.  Em was definitely someone else on that record, he was a Russian immigrant or something... I still don't get it


lmao it wasnt on every track


but like i said, at least that album had some nice production value....recovery was all a buncha sappy, industry shiet
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on September 01, 2013, 05:18:47 PM
Let go of the past, it's gone and no matter how wishful you are of the world returning that way, it's not going to.


Your right.  When does the next 2 Chainz album drop?


I get the nostalgia of a new Em single from a new Em album when he was first out when you were growing up.

But let's call a spade a spade: this song is garbage. Further, as a supposed spiritual fella, it was composed by well known satanists and you are dousing your consciousness in it. Just an FYI.

That's not it, Trippa.  I call a spade a spade and that's why I don't bump most of these new school rappers that have came out over the last 10 years.   I still bump the 90's artists, the occasional new artist, and then have gotten into Reggae and 80's love songs to make up for what I'm missing.

I was the first to say that Encore was wack, that Relapse was wack, and that Recovery wasn't horrible but still a shadow of his former self.

This is sincere, that I really think this track "Bezerk" is the bomb shit!  Maybe the rest of the album will be wack, but "Bezerk" is on some next level shit.   As for Rubin being a Satanist, I don't pick up on that from this particular track, and I am only speaking specifically on "Bezerk"... who knows what will come of the album.

Just because you don't consciously feel anything dark, doesn't mean it's not there. They purposely make things subtle.
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on September 01, 2013, 06:30:14 PM


Just because you don't consciously feel anything dark, doesn't mean it's not there. They purposely make things subtle.

I won't say for sure it's not there.. but I do think you can pick up a feeling when there is something Satanic inserted.  Like the Eagles "Hotel California", anyone who closes their eyes and listens to it knows it's Satanic.
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Sccit on September 01, 2013, 06:31:02 PM
l.a.m.b uses satanism against itself
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on September 02, 2013, 08:08:54 AM


Just because you don't consciously feel anything dark, doesn't mean it's not there. They purposely make things subtle.

I won't say for sure it's not there.. but I do think you can pick up a feeling when there is something Satanic inserted.  Like the Eagles "Hotel California", anyone who closes their eyes and listens to it knows it's Satanic.

It's for sure there. Rick Rubin is a very high level satanist whose purpose in music is putting spells in the music. I know it sounds retarded but it's true.
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Heinz on September 02, 2013, 08:35:01 AM


Just because you don't consciously feel anything dark, doesn't mean it's not there. They purposely make things subtle.

I won't say for sure it's not there.. but I do think you can pick up a feeling when there is something Satanic inserted.  Like the Eagles "Hotel California", anyone who closes their eyes and listens to it knows it's Satanic.

It's for sure there. Rick Rubin is a very high level satanist whose purpose in music is putting spells in the music. I know it sounds retarded but it's true.

I would like to have a discussion with you on this so I will start by confronting you with this question:
Do you KNOW this or do you think you know this because you have read it somewhere?

To be clear I do not disagree with your statement.
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Fraxxx on September 02, 2013, 11:28:15 AM


Just because you don't consciously feel anything dark, doesn't mean it's not there. They purposely make things subtle.

I won't say for sure it's not there.. but I do think you can pick up a feeling when there is something Satanic inserted.  Like the Eagles "Hotel California", anyone who closes their eyes and listens to it knows it's Satanic.

It's for sure there. Rick Rubin is a very high level satanist whose purpose in music is putting spells in the music. I know it sounds retarded but it's true.

I checked the lyrics to Hotel California for the first time ever just now. "In the master's chambers, they gathered for the feast/ they stab it with their steely knives but they just can't kill the beast" ???

Whatever the reason, that's some wierd lyrics to put in a song with that vibe...
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on September 02, 2013, 07:14:05 PM


Just because you don't consciously feel anything dark, doesn't mean it's not there. They purposely make things subtle.

I won't say for sure it's not there.. but I do think you can pick up a feeling when there is something Satanic inserted.  Like the Eagles "Hotel California", anyone who closes their eyes and listens to it knows it's Satanic.

It's for sure there. Rick Rubin is a very high level satanist whose purpose in music is putting spells in the music. I know it sounds retarded but it's true.

I would like to have a discussion with you on this so I will start by confronting you with this question:
Do you KNOW this or do you think you know this because you have read it somewhere?

To be clear I do not disagree with your statement.

I have not witnessed Rick in the studio doing this. I believe it to be true for various reasons.
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Heinz on September 03, 2013, 02:27:07 AM
Fair enough.
Do you think he himself has the ability to do it or that he channels something negative?

I don't listen to his music since it messes up my energy flow and upsets my spirit.
Due to my training in chinese quiet sitting I have refined myself and become quite sensitive to external influences on my body and spirit.
There is very little of modern/popular music that I can listen to because it has a disturbing effect on me.
It does not raise my spirit it lowers it.
Classical music is an exception probably because it follows the diatonic and not the pentatonic scale.




Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on September 03, 2013, 10:29:08 AM
Fair enough.
Do you think he himself has the ability to do it or that he channels something negative?

I don't listen to his music since it messes up my energy flow and upsets my spirit.
Due to my training in chinese quiet sitting I have refined myself and become quite sensitive to external influences on my body and spirit.
There is very little of modern/popular music that I can listen to because it has a disturbing effect on me.
It does not raise my spirit it lowers it.
Classical music is an exception probably because it follows the diatonic and not the pentatonic scale.


I feel you on that, as I am also very conscious about what I put into my body.  You have to properly filter the various pathways to the heart.  Our sense of hearing is one of the pathways to the heart.  And whatever we take in will eventually manifest itself.

Admittedly, I am still not quite 100% certain that my high intake of Em's music from 99-2003 had a positive effect on my life.  I think it had a positive effect in that it helped bring me to greater self-expression, as a white person in hip-hop who had struggled with expression during that time in my life.  But I also encountered some pretty heavy consequences in those years that may have cancelled out the gains I made by way of self-expression.  It's hard to say exactly.  

Ultimately though, if I had to make a determination, I would have to say that Em's art has been a positive force in the world of culture and music.  (But I admit I am not 100% certain of that)  Em has his demons, but I think for the most part he is exorcising his demons through music, which is actually a healthy catharsis.  
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Heinz on September 03, 2013, 10:58:53 AM
Fair enough.
Do you think he himself has the ability to do it or that he channels something negative?

I don't listen to his music since it messes up my energy flow and upsets my spirit.
Due to my training in chinese quiet sitting I have refined myself and become quite sensitive to external influences on my body and spirit.
There is very little of modern/popular music that I can listen to because it has a disturbing effect on me.
It does not raise my spirit it lowers it.
Classical music is an exception probably because it follows the diatonic and not the pentatonic scale.


I feel you on that, as I am also very conscious about what I put into my body.  You have to properly filter the various pathways to the heart.  Our sense of hearing is one of the pathways to the heart.  And whatever we take in will eventually manifest itself.


Agreed. And it's not limited to music/hearing but the full spectre of our senses.
What a gift it is to truly be alive.
Life is great.






Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on September 04, 2013, 08:53:15 AM
Fair enough.
Do you think he himself has the ability to do it or that he channels something negative?

I don't listen to his music since it messes up my energy flow and upsets my spirit.
Due to my training in chinese quiet sitting I have refined myself and become quite sensitive to external influences on my body and spirit.
There is very little of modern/popular music that I can listen to because it has a disturbing effect on me.
It does not raise my spirit it lowers it.
Classical music is an exception probably because it follows the diatonic and not the pentatonic scale.






I believe he has knowledge on certain tones to use within the music for various desired effects. I also am sure he is proficient at back masking. And I'm sure he is quite knowledgable with incantations / spells etc.

Lucifer was supposedly minister of music in heaven before being cast down. Music and vibration are much more powerful than most people realize.

And I agree about the whole empath thing. I can't watch tv because it just makes me angry after about 30 seconds.
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Heinz on September 04, 2013, 09:01:51 AM
Ever read "Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television" by Jerry Mander?

http://www.amazon.com/Arguments-Elimination-Television-Jerry-Mander/dp/0688082742/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1378310372&sr=8-1&keywords=four+arguments+for+the+elimination+of+television

Its not new (70's) but an interesting read, you might enjoy it.





Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Fraxxx on September 04, 2013, 09:14:47 AM
Fair enough.
Do you think he himself has the ability to do it or that he channels something negative?

I don't listen to his music since it messes up my energy flow and upsets my spirit.
Due to my training in chinese quiet sitting I have refined myself and become quite sensitive to external influences on my body and spirit.
There is very little of modern/popular music that I can listen to because it has a disturbing effect on me.
It does not raise my spirit it lowers it.
Classical music is an exception probably because it follows the diatonic and not the pentatonic scale.






I believe he has knowledge on certain tones to use within the music for various desired effects. I also am sure he is proficient at back masking. And I'm sure he is quite knowledgable with incantations / spells etc.

Lucifer was supposedly minister of music in heaven before being cast down.
Music and vibration are much more powerful than most people realize.

And I agree about the whole empath thing. I can't watch tv because it just makes me angry after about 30 seconds.

You believe in god, do you believe in satan, too? Or do you think it's enough, that others believe him to be real, for a satanistic movement to be formed.
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on September 04, 2013, 09:41:02 AM
Fair enough.
Do you think he himself has the ability to do it or that he channels something negative?

I don't listen to his music since it messes up my energy flow and upsets my spirit.
Due to my training in chinese quiet sitting I have refined myself and become quite sensitive to external influences on my body and spirit.
There is very little of modern/popular music that I can listen to because it has a disturbing effect on me.
It does not raise my spirit it lowers it.
Classical music is an exception probably because it follows the diatonic and not the pentatonic scale.






I believe he has knowledge on certain tones to use within the music for various desired effects. I also am sure he is proficient at back masking. And I'm sure he is quite knowledgable with incantations / spells etc.

Lucifer was supposedly minister of music in heaven before being cast down.
Music and vibration are much more powerful than most people realize.

And I agree about the whole empath thing. I can't watch tv because it just makes me angry after about 30 seconds.

You believe in god, do you believe in satan, too? Or do you think it's enough, that others believe him to be real, for a satanistic movement to be formed.

One of the biggest catalysts in me believing in God was when I came to the conclusion that the most powerful people in the world are satanists/luciferian. These people are extremely serious in their beliefs, and I thought if took it so serious that maybe there was some validity to it.

Even if one personally doesn't believe in any of that stuff, they should be informed to know that some very powerful people do, and their actions and agendas serve that belief.
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Fraxxx on September 04, 2013, 09:55:24 AM
^^^
I see. I agree with you that their beliefs no matter if right or wrong, are enough to make the threat real. But I would've thought, that the mental condition those people are in, was more an indicator for not taking their belief system seriously.

I'd go one step further and say that these people are so opportunist anyway, that most of them might as well practice that bullshit without believing in it.
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on September 05, 2013, 09:38:17 AM
Ever read "Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television" by Jerry Mander?

http://www.amazon.com/Arguments-Elimination-Television-Jerry-Mander/dp/0688082742/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1378310372&sr=8-1&keywords=four+arguments+for+the+elimination+of+television

Its not new (70's) but an interesting read, you might enjoy it.







Thanks I'll check that out.
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on September 05, 2013, 09:43:52 AM
^^^
I see. I agree with you that their beliefs no matter if right or wrong, are enough to make the threat real. But I would've thought, that the mental condition those people are in, was more an indicator for not taking their belief system seriously.

I'd go one step further and say that these people are so opportunist anyway, that most of them might as well practice that bullshit without believing in it.

Their religious beliefs make them opportunist. "do as thou wilt" = do whatever you please regardless of ramifications to others. Their beliefs tell them that they are the rulers of this realm and they are justified to do anything they want, and it is their duty to lie, cheat, and steal at every opportunity to maintain that power.
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: jeanmiche777 on September 10, 2013, 01:30:24 PM
That thread is very interesting, I started to get a little into buddhism as of late. I know that for some people you will sound like someone who is disturbed and fucked in the head, but I understand where you are coming from. We are influenced by everything we hear and see. If you are influenced by Eminem and what he says, how he raps, his music, you are influenced by what influenced him, and so on. Eveything in this world is connected. It makes me laugh a little bit when I hear about Satan, not because I'm 100% it doesn't exist. Everyone that take Satan seriously is influenced by that school of tought, and will start to put things in their head to make their theories real. Because in your mind, you can construct anything on the spiritual side of things. Some people don't even want to see that and think about that, because it is scary as fuck.

I will give you an advice, try to be ''balanced''. Everything about this world is about balance. Try to achieve that, and you will see that you are way more in control of your life than you think. Try to destroy your ego, because ego is a construction of your mind. You are nothing, when you have an emotion, that emotion isn't even real. The only thing that is real, is the god-gift of having that emotion. When you start being angry, or sad, try to see those emotions as clouds in the sky that are in the way of the sun of your pure concsiousness. It is hard to do that in our capitalist world because almost everything is based in individuality. But such a thing doesn't even exist, we are simply a part of the big demonstration that everything is related to everything, we are only a part of it. No matter what we do, our actions will simply prove that
Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Sccit on September 10, 2013, 02:03:22 PM
That thread is very interesting, I started to get a little into buddhism as of late. I know that for some people you will sound like someone who is disturbed and fucked in the head, but I understand where you are coming from. We are influenced by everything we hear and see. If you are influenced by Eminem and what he says, how he raps, his music, you are influenced by what influenced him, and so on. Eveything in this world is connected. It makes me laugh a little bit when I hear about Satan, not because I'm 100% it doesn't exist. Everyone that take Satan seriously is influenced by that school of tought, and will start to put things in their head to make their theories real. Because in your mind, you can construct anything on the spiritual side of things. Some people don't even want to see that and think about that, because it is scary as fuck.

I will give you an advice, try to be ''balanced''. Everything about this world is about balance. Try to achieve that, and you will see that you are way more in control of your life than you think. Try to destroy your ego, because ego is a construction of your mind. You are nothing, when you have an emotion, that emotion isn't even real. The only thing that is real, is the god-gift of having that emotion. When you start being angry, or sad, try to see those emotions as clouds in the sky that are in the way of the sun of your pure concsiousness. It is hard to do that in our capitalist world because almost everything is based in individuality. But such a thing doesn't even exist, we are simply a part of the big demonstration that everything is related to everything, we are only a part of it. No matter what we do, our actions will simply prove that

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Title: Re: Em's "Bezerk" makes me reflect into how Em's music has effected my life
Post by: Fraxxx on September 24, 2013, 01:08:03 PM
That thread is very interesting, I started to get a little into buddhism as of late. I know that for some people you will sound like someone who is disturbed and fucked in the head, but I understand where you are coming from. We are influenced by everything we hear and see. If you are influenced by Eminem and what he says, how he raps, his music, you are influenced by what influenced him, and so on. Eveything in this world is connected. It makes me laugh a little bit when I hear about Satan, not because I'm 100% it doesn't exist. Everyone that take Satan seriously is influenced by that school of tought, and will start to put things in their head to make their theories real. Because in your mind, you can construct anything on the spiritual side of things. Some people don't even want to see that and think about that, because it is scary as fuck.

I will give you an advice, try to be ''balanced''. Everything about this world is about balance. Try to achieve that, and you will see that you are way more in control of your life than you think. Try to destroy your ego, because ego is a construction of your mind. You are nothing, when you have an emotion, that emotion isn't even real. The only thing that is real, is the god-gift of having that emotion. When you start being angry, or sad, try to see those emotions as clouds in the sky that are in the way of the sun of your pure concsiousness. It is hard to do that in our capitalist world because almost everything is based in individuality. But such a thing doesn't even exist, we are simply a part of the big demonstration that everything is related to everything, we are only a part of it. No matter what we do, our actions will simply prove that

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Indeed. Unfortunately, people don't allow themselves to realize that it's all smoke and mirrors. Questioning everything I believe in? Fuck outta here!