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Title: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on September 03, 2013, 07:40:55 AM
"We are fighting terrorists," he said. "80-90% of those we are fighting belong to al-Qaeda. They are not interested in reform or in politics. The only way to deal with them is to annihilate them."

http://www.buzzfeed.com/miriamelder/assad-speaks-the-only-way-to-deal-with-them-is-to-annihilate?s=mobile
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on September 03, 2013, 07:51:08 AM
This is mainly for Infinite.
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: M Dogg™ on September 03, 2013, 08:31:18 AM
Assad is a lying son of a bitch. With that said, I wouldn't go into Syria with Russia's nukes and China's billion people army. That place is a grave yard waiting to happen for any side going in. Both sides have no regard for life and are killing their own children. That tells you this is a dead end, literally.
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on September 03, 2013, 09:01:57 AM
This is mainly for Infinite.

Why is it for me?
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: Fraxxx on September 03, 2013, 09:19:48 AM
Assad is a lying son of a bitch.

I agree. There ain't no good guys in this. I'd just hate to see the U.S. and their allies topple another government they dislike and make one more step towards controlling EVERYTHING.

Sure, there are oppressed people in Syria but the fight that's fought right now is not fought in their favor anymore.
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: virtuoso on September 03, 2013, 09:33:43 AM
M Dogg are you STILL deluding yourself?. How about the regime of the U.S? How about the dictatorship of chump change? How about the blood thirsty evil of the butchers who have supported a brutal and sickening terrorist army? Are you still tripping over words like activism? If you are going to retort by talking about war crimes I refer you again to the treasonous parasites in the American government. Furthermore I would refer you to the fact that opposing forces don't want secularism, they want a hardcore Islamic state to be imposed. Are you still oblivious despite the fact these psychopaths have filmed themselves butchering and killing literally thousands of
Assad is a lying son of bitch? How about Obama is a lying son of a bitch. Even in your opposition to a war you ate portraying an apologist line almost. Wake up and smell the coffee bro.



people.
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: M Dogg™ on September 03, 2013, 09:38:48 AM
Have I denied that the opposition is Islamist, NO! They are killing just as many children as the government. You are still trying to put me into a box so that you can ignore what I am saying.

As for the regime in the US. that will only change when the people change. Right now, and maybe for our lifetimes, the people don't want things to change. They have been fed fear. Until they change, the government will not change. The people want a government that gets rid of "bad guys" and protects them. There is no outrage over the NSA other than people online who pay attention. But the majority of people don't like the programs. but did SHIT to get rid of them. Because in the back of their mind, they would rather have the NSA and all these WAR CRIMINALS in charge than have to be a free society. And that's FACT.
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on September 03, 2013, 09:41:28 AM
This is mainly for Infinite.

Why is it for me?

Because we just had a discussion about whether or not these "rebels" we're al Qaeda or not in the other thread.
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: virtuoso on September 03, 2013, 09:47:09 AM
The point is I found it somewhat ironic given the much greater evils of the global parasites. As for war crimes in Syria, don't kid yourself these groups like the Islamic republic of Iraq, Al Nusra etc are ten times worse. As for the bullshit of chemical weapons you do realise they have been filmed demoing chemical weaponry right?
So I ask again, what about Obama the treasonous murderous lying son of a bitch?
Who poses a greater danger?
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on September 03, 2013, 09:59:49 AM


Because we just had a discussion about whether or not these "rebels" we're al Qaeda or not in the other thread.

Yeah, and my point still holds true.  Basically any time anybody wants to undermine a group of Islamic rebels they just call them Al-Qaeda to give them a bad name.   But really, Al-Qaeda was a loosely associated group of Islamic fighters loyal to Usama Bin Laden, that were in Afghanistan with him and were destroyed and disbanded shortly after the US entered Afghanistan in 2001.

Now the name is just used for political gain, to undermine the opposition as a band of fanatics.

The fighters in Syria have more in common with the Muslim brotherhood movement, or to a lesser degree the Salafi/Wahhabi's than they do Usama Bin Laden's "Al-Qaeada".  In fact, Usama made declarations not to even fight against Shia' or Muslim governments, he wanted to take the fight to the U.S. and Israel.  That's what he was saying before 2001, anything after 2001 is hearsay.
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: virtuoso on September 03, 2013, 10:04:28 AM
Fanatical imperialistic scum
So actually worse than al Qaeda but yet how do you account for the black flag being a common place amongst these monsters?
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on September 03, 2013, 12:12:31 PM
Fanatical imperialistic scum
So actually worse than al Qaeda but yet how do you account for the black flag being a common place amongst these monsters?

was that question to me?  Because I have no idea what you said or asked... you really need to take your time and chill out man.   Smoke some ganja.  Your always talking about several things at once and it's hard to respond to.
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: virtuoso on September 03, 2013, 12:35:53 PM
I was summarising these wack jobs in 3 words and yes, the question was to you.
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on September 03, 2013, 02:06:13 PM
I was summarising these wack jobs in 3 words and yes, the question was to you.

Can you rephrase the question then.  And don't make it a loaded question. 
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: MUHFUKKA on September 03, 2013, 10:28:47 PM
infant why do you sympathize with terrorists? what do you not love about our freedom?
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: V2DHeart on September 04, 2013, 02:10:49 AM
infant why do you sympathize with terrorists? what do you not love about our freedom?

lol. Please tell me this is sarcasm  ;D
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on September 04, 2013, 06:36:45 AM
infant why do you sympathize with terrorists? what do you not love about our freedom?

Another loaded statement.  I don't know who you all are considering the "terrorists" in this situation. 
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on September 04, 2013, 07:40:18 AM


Because we just had a discussion about whether or not these "rebels" we're al Qaeda or not in the other thread.

Yeah, and my point still holds true.  Basically any time anybody wants to undermine a group of Islamic rebels they just call them Al-Qaeda to give them a bad name.   But really, Al-Qaeda was a loosely associated group of Islamic fighters loyal to Usama Bin Laden, that were in Afghanistan with him and were destroyed and disbanded shortly after the US entered Afghanistan in 2001.

Now the name is just used for political gain, to undermine the opposition as a band of fanatics.

The fighters in Syria have more in common with the Muslim brotherhood movement, or to a lesser degree the Salafi/Wahhabi's than they do Usama Bin Laden's "Al-Qaeada".  In fact, Usama made declarations not to even fight against Shia' or Muslim governments, he wanted to take the fight to the U.S. and Israel.  That's what he was saying before 2001, anything after 2001 is hearsay.

So Assad says they are al Qaeda and you don't believe him. Whatever you say man.

Also I get the impression you believe the "rebels" are oppressed Muslims fighting for a noble cause. They aren't. They are fighting a proxy war for Israel/US/Saudis.

Arab Spring is well documented, I suggest you get acquainted with it.
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: virtuoso on September 04, 2013, 08:14:01 AM
The terrorists are these Islamic extremist psychopathic scum
The state sponsors of this terrorism are the west. That you would support this salafist, wahabbi, Muslim brotherhoodin any way would disturb me greatly and as a man of peace that I know you to be and as a libertarian, I don't for a minute contemplate that you support these savages
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on September 04, 2013, 10:34:36 AM


Also I get the impression you believe the "rebels" are oppressed Muslims fighting for a noble cause.



Wrong.  I've been saying from the beginning that they are only making matters worse.
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on September 04, 2013, 10:38:22 AM
The terrorists are these Islamic extremist psychopathic scum
The state sponsors of this terrorism are the west. That you would support this salafist, wahabbi, Muslim brotherhoodin any way would disturb me greatly and as a man of peace that I know you to be and as a libertarian, I don't for a minute contemplate that you support these savages

Extremely loaded statement.   Can't sufficiently respond to that, but I was able to respond to Trippa in my above post.  

I don't know where you guys got the idea that I support the revolution against Assad, because I never said such a thing.  I've made many posts to the contrary, stating that the revolutions of the Arab spring in places like Egypt, Libya, Tunisia and Syria have only made matters worse.  I've been consistent in saying as much.
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: virtuoso on September 04, 2013, 11:15:03 AM
Infinite, you may feel uncomfortable about denouncing fellow muslims but I have no such issues with denouncing them or anyone engaged in this kind of barbaric, cowardly heinous acts.

Clearly your views and theirs are not synonymous in any way despite your reservations about denouncing them and yes, the arab uprising was contrived, not contrived from the point of real opposition but in so far as enabling and provocateuring.

Despite the dictatorial style of Mubarrack Egypt never got involved in a war, something I find very interesting.
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on September 04, 2013, 12:15:24 PM
Infinite, you may feel uncomfortable about denouncing fellow muslims but I have no such issues with denouncing them or anyone engaged in this kind of barbaric, cowardly heinous acts.

Clearly your views and theirs are not synonymous in any way despite your reservations about denouncing them and yes, the arab uprising was contrived, not contrived from the point of real opposition but in so far as enabling and provocateuring.

Despite the dictatorial style of Mubarrack Egypt never got involved in a war, something I find very interesting.

That's pretty much on point...   My contention was mainly with the use of the term "Al-Qaeada" as a catch-all phrase that makes all Muslim fighters a part of an organization which has been blamed for everything from Kennedy Assassination to the crucifixion of Christ and Global Warming.   

...I also think that terms you use like Islamic extremists/terrorists aren't helpful either.   And you are not to blame for that.  I think it's more of a case of nearly any Muslim that the U.S. doesn't like automatically inherits that label, so then when people like yourself who have very different interests in the matter use the same term, the words and labels can get all convoluted.  Num sayin?
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: virtuoso on September 04, 2013, 12:53:23 PM
I am not sure what else to label someone who films themselves cutting off someone's head. They are Muslim extremists, in the same way that Christians who support everything Israel does because they are the so called chosen people are christian extremists. Or as Webster Tarpley labels them...death squads. As for terrorism, I am under no illusions, when NATO bombed residential areas in Belgrade they justified it on the grounds of wanting to cause an uprising, that was terrorism too.
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on September 04, 2013, 01:43:33 PM
I am not sure what else to label someone who films themselves cutting off someone's head. They are Muslim extremists, in the same way that Christians who support everything Israel does because they are the so called chosen people are christian extremists. Or as Webster Tarpley labels them...death squads. As for terrorism, I am under no illusions, when NATO bombed residential areas in Belgrade they justified it on the grounds of wanting to cause an uprising, that was terrorism too.

So what do you think of America using "Al-Qaeada" as a pretext to do whatever it wants, wherever it wants anywhere on the globe?  I mean, I'm sure you against it, but what do you think of the role that labeling everything "Al-Qaeada" plays?
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: V2DHeart on September 11, 2013, 12:22:04 AM
Want peace in Syria?

Then the West (including Israel) needs to quit funding these psychopathic militants and savages and stop supplying chemical weapons to Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia. There is no killing of innocent children by the Syrian Army. I don't know what website that comes from? The Syrian Army is made up of the Syrian people. Husbands, uncles, Son's, nephews. It is the peoples army. The army is the people  ::) Yet Western media would have you believe that they are forceful oppressive thugs. They aren't. They are trying desperately to defend it's people who are under attack from a foreign enemy. One that is pure and utter evil. Cutting off childrens heads, cutting open soldiers chests and eating their hearts, shooting innocent women and kids in their homes at night. This is all being funded by the West all because Assad won't bend over and let his land be occupied by a foreign bully hell bent on taking over the middle east for their banking masters.

The funding needs to stop to these sick savages, and they need to back out, and let Assad clean up the filth so that Syria can get back to being peaceful again. THAT is what needs to happen realistically.

Russia? China? All the same owners as the US, and all this show and hesitation is merely to legitimize the UN, and the procedural method of going to war to make it appear morally correct. Russia's masters don't give a damn about Syria. This is designed to set the pretext for a proxy war where the only ruined country in the end of all this is Syria

Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: V2DHeart on September 11, 2013, 12:25:15 AM
Syria
North Korea
Iran

3 countries left in the world that the banking cartel want for complete global financial control. Once they have it, they could implement global monetary solutions. Why do you think every crisis is a "global" crisis. "Global" warming, "global" food crisis, "global" economic crisis, "global" health issue (swine flu). They want us to believe everything is a global issue in order to shoehorn us into accepting global solutions. Those 3 countries I mentioned stand in the way.

Everything you hear on the media about going to war with these countries is by design and preparation. They will be smeared, they will spread lies about them. It's up to us to be smart and know what's 4 moves ahead
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: Fraxxx on September 11, 2013, 01:12:21 AM
Syria
North Korea
Iran

3 countries left in the world that the banking cartel want for complete global financial control. Once they have it, they could implement global monetary solutions. Why do you think every crisis is a "global" crisis. "Global" warming, "global" food crisis, "global" economic crisis, "global" health issue (swine flu). They want us to believe everything is a global issue in order to shoehorn us into accepting global solutions. Those 3 countries I mentioned stand in the way.

Everything you hear on the media about going to war with these countries is by design and preparation. They will be smeared, they will spread lies about them. It's up to us to be smart and know what's 4 moves ahead

The G20 just decided to share ALL of our tax information on a global scale. They say it's to go after tax-evading corporations... WTF?!?
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: V2DHeart on September 13, 2013, 02:23:01 AM
LOL. the G20 is run and paid for by the same corporations.

This is to enhance their already well constructed global database accessible by all participating/bought countries. A part of the ever growing control grid
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: M Dogg™ on September 13, 2013, 07:20:50 AM
Syria
North Korea
Iran

3 countries left in the world that the banking cartel want for complete global financial control. Once they have it, they could implement global monetary solutions. Why do you think every crisis is a "global" crisis. "Global" warming, "global" food crisis, "global" economic crisis, "global" health issue (swine flu). They want us to believe everything is a global issue in order to shoehorn us into accepting global solutions. Those 3 countries I mentioned stand in the way.

Everything you hear on the media about going to war with these countries is by design and preparation. They will be smeared, they will spread lies about them. It's up to us to be smart and know what's 4 moves ahead

Which is why Russia is backing each of them?
Title: Re: Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
Post by: V2DHeart on September 16, 2013, 12:51:34 AM
Syria
North Korea
Iran

3 countries left in the world that the banking cartel want for complete global financial control. Once they have it, they could implement global monetary solutions. Why do you think every crisis is a "global" crisis. "Global" warming, "global" food crisis, "global" economic crisis, "global" health issue (swine flu). They want us to believe everything is a global issue in order to shoehorn us into accepting global solutions. Those 3 countries I mentioned stand in the way.

Everything you hear on the media about going to war with these countries is by design and preparation. They will be smeared, they will spread lies about them. It's up to us to be smart and know what's 4 moves ahead

Which is why Russia is backing each of them?

Are they?

Or is it merely all part of the act? You have to remember that these string pullers (who own and control) are thinking decades beyond what any of us do and are 20 moves ahead. Getting the 2 main powers into a conflict is something they know would scare the globe to death, but obviously the safest and most secure way is through a proxy war on land not occupied by either side.

For the short term, it allows both sides to supply arms (making money for defense contractors, shareholders), thus causing destruction to the country, which further increases the potential of private contractors for companies such as Halliburton, GE, etc.

The longer term is more important. It is the elimination and merger of yet another former independent state, apart of the wider financial control structure in the hands of those wielding monetary power and control of the countries such as Germany, USA, Russia, France, UK, Canada, Greece, India. Well, pretty much ALL countries besides 3 (5 if you count 2 in dispute)

The ottoman empire was once a strong independent Islamic power. Iran, and Syria remain.

A lot of people still don't know why they were allied with Germany, or why Europe and the US were at war with Hitler during WW2. The reason for neither US or Russia attacking one another directly is due to them playing on the same sides. All this is show, and to create the illusion of 2 sides preparing for the inevitable WW3