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Title: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Blood$ on September 30, 2013, 11:56:07 AM
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhJx9jVr4tEsiUq50e

some of these have been common knowledge but interesting nonetheless
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 30, 2013, 12:09:49 PM
I didn't know that about Dre. That's pretty nuts.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: TidyKris on September 30, 2013, 01:27:03 PM
Whats that beat playing through the video! That is dope  8)
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Russell Bell on September 30, 2013, 10:02:00 PM
puffy has always been the most useless rich dude in rap

Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 30, 2013, 10:11:41 PM
But when you're an inside man to the powers that be in the two biggest Hip Hop conspiracy murders, only to the public are you "useless".

But in his defense, Diddy always cared about owning the label more so than being a rapper. He just makes songs to stay relevant today.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Russell Bell on September 30, 2013, 10:32:40 PM
But when you're an inside man to the powers that be in the two biggest Hip Hop conspiracy murders, only to the public are you "useless".

But in his defense, Diddy always cared about owning the label more so than being a rapper. He just makes songs to stay relevant today.

agreed

i could care less if he did anything to either of those guys though

im just answering purely from a listeners perspective

and youre right, diddy was more about owning the label, but hes put himself out there as an artist too much for me to overlook
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 01, 2013, 09:46:59 AM
Yeah. He's absolutely worthless as an artist. But I'll still take his contributions a billion times over DJ Drama just talking shit, fucking up mixtapes and DJ Khaled. How those people make money literally angers me.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Blood$ on October 01, 2013, 09:47:50 AM
Khaled has Arab money, only reason he's able to do what he does
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Sccit on October 01, 2013, 11:15:20 AM
no way out is a classic
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Blood$ on October 01, 2013, 11:22:25 AM
no way out is a classic

agreed
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 01, 2013, 11:24:36 AM
no way out is a classic

agreed

The point was he didn't write it or produce it. But yeah, it is.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Blood$ on October 01, 2013, 11:27:52 AM
no way out is a classic

agreed

The point was he didn't write it or produce it. But yeah, it is.

in essence, that was Biggie, The Lox, Black Rob, and Lil Kim's group album  8)
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: M Dogg™ on October 01, 2013, 11:58:20 AM
If Biggie hadn't died, Puffy only releases one album and Biggie goes one to be the headliner of Bad Boy, with Ma$e and the Lox as the secondary acts. So I ain't tripping off Puffy, he was doing what he does. The headphones don't surprise me. Nothing about that was surprising or depressing, except Outkast. Snoop and Nas were too real for the Grammys. Grammys are for Kanye West.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Sccit on October 01, 2013, 12:37:00 PM
no way out is a classic

agreed

The point was he didn't write it or produce it. But yeah, it is.

in essence, that was Biggie, The Lox, Black Rob, and Lil Kim's group album  8)

very true...but puff was the one to put it all together, so he does deserve credit. he's sorta like a much less talented dre.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: TidyKris on October 01, 2013, 04:33:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhBTV5GsoiQ

Ive found the beat if anybody is interested..i really like this and it looks like its just a beat and no lyrics are done yet
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Sccit on October 01, 2013, 04:40:16 PM
SHOULD LAMB BUY THE RIGHTS?
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: whoisthis on October 01, 2013, 04:53:12 PM
puffy has always been the most useless rich dude in rap



What's your opinion on Eazy?
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: M Dogg™ on October 01, 2013, 05:08:44 PM
puffy has always been the most useless rich dude in rap



What's your opinion on Eazy?

Could have been as rich of a useless guy, but had Jerry Heller stealing his money.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: HighEyeCue on October 01, 2013, 05:28:41 PM
Eazy did write some of his lyrics though...
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: M Dogg™ on October 01, 2013, 08:22:24 PM
And Puffy did some of the production. He also made the call to have Biggie rap over the Juicy beat when even Biggie didn't want to.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Russell Bell on October 01, 2013, 10:34:13 PM
Yeah. He's absolutely worthless as an artist. But I'll still take his contributions a billion times over DJ Drama just talking shit, fucking up mixtapes and DJ Khaled. How those people make money literally angers me.

im with you on that.

i remember when khaled came out screaming and yelling over generic ass south beats.  shit was crazy how popular his music was.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Remedy360 on October 01, 2013, 11:14:59 PM
Yeah. He's absolutely worthless as an artist. But I'll still take his contributions a billion times over DJ Drama just talking shit, fucking up mixtapes and DJ Khaled. How those people make money literally angers me.

By far. As far as Puffy the artist goes, I never thought he was nearly as bad as people made him out to be (at least in his hey-day).
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Blood$ on October 01, 2013, 11:17:52 PM
I honestly had all of his albums before Press Play lol

Forever had some highlights... people forget about that "Journey Through The Life" track with him Nas and Beanie Sigel  :o
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: whoisthis on October 02, 2013, 07:25:34 AM
Puff gets shit for things that Eazy gets a pass on.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Fonkarround on October 02, 2013, 07:36:40 AM
Come on, how can you be comparing eazy and puff. Only similarity i see is, that they were both more into business than music. But when it comes to music, its disrespectfull to eazy.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: whoisthis on October 02, 2013, 07:55:56 AM
Disrespectful? Um. Ok. Just one question, how many songs did Eazy write?
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: M Dogg™ on October 02, 2013, 08:34:17 AM
Eazy wrote for the Love of Money $ verse, and I think Real Compton City G'z.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Blood$ on October 02, 2013, 09:14:27 AM
Real Compton City G'z.

B.G. Knoccout and Dre'sta wrote that whole song if I'm not mistaken
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 02, 2013, 10:02:44 AM
Puff gets shit for things that Eazy gets a pass on.

Not from me. Eazy was so weak. Snoop too.

They're the OG versions of Game, letting production carry them the entire way through & just know the right way to ride it...well read someone else's lyrics on how to ride it.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: M Dogg™ on October 02, 2013, 10:06:13 AM
Real Compton City G'z.

B.G. Knoccout and Dre'sta wrote that whole song if I'm not mistaken

You might be right. But he is credited with writing credits for that song and It's On on that EP. Those were the only songs he was credited with. Not sure if he wrote all of his lyrics, or just put input to them. But he did get some credit for those songs. Also Boyz n tha Hood (G-Mix) but we all know Cube wrote that. So take Eazy's writing credit with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Sccit on October 02, 2013, 10:44:00 AM
Puff gets shit for things that Eazy gets a pass on.

Not from me. Eazy was so weak. Snoop too.

They're the OG versions of Game, letting production carry them the entire way through & just know the right way to ride it...well read someone else's lyrics on how to ride it.


it's called personality, mic presence, flow, delivery, voice control, passion, charm etc......personally, i could never sit through an entire joe budden album, because i much rather hear some simple shit with personality and meaning than some great lyrics with monotone ass flows...if i want great lyrics, ill watch rap battles on youtube....i want shit that slaps, sounds good, rappers who mean what they say, who can rock a mic wit their energy, not just big words that sounds like it's being read off a paper....and that is why eazy-e >>>>>>>>>> joe budden
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Sccit on October 02, 2013, 10:45:38 AM
Real Compton City G'z.

B.G. Knoccout and Dre'sta wrote that whole song if I'm not mistaken

You might be right. But he is credited with writing credits for that song and It's On on that EP. Those were the only songs he was credited with. Not sure if he wrote all of his lyrics, or just put input to them. But he did get some credit for those songs. Also Boyz n tha Hood (G-Mix) but we all know Cube wrote that. So take Eazy's writing credit with a grain of salt.

he actually wrote a lot of songs on "straight off the streetz"
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: BiggSadot on October 02, 2013, 01:32:05 PM
Puff gets shit for things that Eazy gets a pass on.

Not from me. Eazy was so weak. Snoop too.

They're the OG versions of Game, letting production carry them the entire way through & just know the right way to ride it...well read someone else's lyrics on how to ride it.


it's called personality, mic presence, flow, delivery, voice control, passion, charm etc......personally, i could never sit through an entire joe budden album, because i much rather hear some simple shit with personality and meaning than some great lyrics with monotone ass flows...if i want great lyrics, ill watch rap battles on youtube....i want shit that slaps, sounds good, rappers who mean what they say, who can rock a mic wit their energy, not just big words that sounds like it's being read off a paper....and that is why eazy-e >>>>>>>>>> joe budden

Pretty much.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: M Dogg™ on October 02, 2013, 01:57:05 PM
Real Compton City G'z.

B.G. Knoccout and Dre'sta wrote that whole song if I'm not mistaken

You might be right. But he is credited with writing credits for that song and It's On on that EP. Those were the only songs he was credited with. Not sure if he wrote all of his lyrics, or just put input to them. But he did get some credit for those songs. Also Boyz n tha Hood (G-Mix) but we all know Cube wrote that. So take Eazy's writing credit with a grain of salt.

he actually wrote a lot of songs on "straight off the streetz"

I was actually talking about It's On (Dr. Dre) = 187um Killa EP.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: TidyKris on October 02, 2013, 03:29:31 PM
SHOULD LAMB BUY THE RIGHTS?

Yes go for it! That beat is on fire although nobody seems to be giving it a second though haha  8)
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Remedy360 on October 02, 2013, 03:38:07 PM
Puff gets shit for things that Eazy gets a pass on.

Not from me. Eazy was so weak. Snoop too.

They're the OG versions of Game, letting production carry them the entire way through & just know the right way to ride it...well read someone else's lyrics on how to ride it.


it's called personality, mic presence, flow, delivery, voice control, passion, charm etc......personally, i could never sit through an entire joe budden album, because i much rather hear some simple shit with personality and meaning than some great lyrics with monotone ass flows...if i want great lyrics, ill watch rap battles on youtube....i want shit that slaps, sounds good, rappers who mean what they say, who can rock a mic wit their energy, not just big words that sounds like it's being read off a paper...

Gotta agree with this. I mean, call a rapper out for getting help all you want, but at the end of the day there's a lot more than just lyrics. I'd much rather listen to an average/slightly below lyricist like Game than some some lyrical guy that lacks mic-presence and all that.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Russell Bell on October 03, 2013, 12:35:01 AM
Disrespectful? Um. Ok. Just one question, how many songs did Eazy write?

not many

who had more talent as a rapper?
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: whoisthis on October 03, 2013, 06:51:19 AM


not many

who had more talent as a rapper?

Neither, really. But, from what Cube had to say, obviously Eazy struggled in the booth. Not sure if his whole career was like that, but at least up front. I've never heard a story about Puff like that.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Sccit on October 03, 2013, 07:56:49 AM


not many

who had more talent as a rapper?

Neither, really. But, from what Cube had to say, obviously Eazy struggled in the booth. Not sure if his whole career was like that, but at least up front. I've never heard a story about Puff like that.


eazy-e is way better as a rapper, u jokin? maybe he struggled with technicalities in the early years, but his presence, flow, charisma shits on anything puffy ever had to offer. it's not even close, really.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: whoisthis on October 03, 2013, 09:46:39 AM
To me, Eazy's personality and voice made him an enjoyable Rapper to listen to. I don't think any of that is really a talent.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 03, 2013, 11:03:28 AM
Puff gets shit for things that Eazy gets a pass on.

Not from me. Eazy was so weak. Snoop too.

They're the OG versions of Game, letting production carry them the entire way through & just know the right way to ride it...well read someone else's lyrics on how to ride it.


it's called personality, mic presence, flow, delivery, voice control, passion, charm etc......personally, i could never sit through an entire joe budden album, because i much rather hear some simple shit with personality and meaning than some great lyrics with monotone ass flows...if i want great lyrics, ill watch rap battles on youtube....i want shit that slaps, sounds good, rappers who mean what they say, who can rock a mic wit their energy, not just big words that sounds like it's being read off a paper....and that is why eazy-e >>>>>>>>>> joe budden

Pretty much.

You pretty much just summed up 95% of what the mainstream is.

Yet you both hate on every popular act on the industry. ::)
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Sccit on October 03, 2013, 12:21:59 PM
Puff gets shit for things that Eazy gets a pass on.

Not from me. Eazy was so weak. Snoop too.

They're the OG versions of Game, letting production carry them the entire way through & just know the right way to ride it...well read someone else's lyrics on how to ride it.


it's called personality, mic presence, flow, delivery, voice control, passion, charm etc......personally, i could never sit through an entire joe budden album, because i much rather hear some simple shit with personality and meaning than some great lyrics with monotone ass flows...if i want great lyrics, ill watch rap battles on youtube....i want shit that slaps, sounds good, rappers who mean what they say, who can rock a mic wit their energy, not just big words that sounds like it's being read off a paper....and that is why eazy-e >>>>>>>>>> joe budden

Pretty much.

You pretty much just summed up 95% of what the mainstream is.

Yet you both hate on every popular act on the industry. ::)


the mainstream sounds like shit though, from production to flows...they on that gay shit, cant fux wit that.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Sccit on October 03, 2013, 12:22:29 PM
To me, Eazy's personality and voice made him an enjoyable Rapper to listen to. I don't think any of that is really a talent.


knowin how to use your voice and personality on the mic is indeed a talent....for instance, his kids got the same voice. look at the difference.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 03, 2013, 04:26:38 PM
Puff gets shit for things that Eazy gets a pass on.

Not from me. Eazy was so weak. Snoop too.

They're the OG versions of Game, letting production carry them the entire way through & just know the right way to ride it...well read someone else's lyrics on how to ride it.


it's called personality, mic presence, flow, delivery, voice control, passion, charm etc......personally, i could never sit through an entire joe budden album, because i much rather hear some simple shit with personality and meaning than some great lyrics with monotone ass flows...if i want great lyrics, ill watch rap battles on youtube....i want shit that slaps, sounds good, rappers who mean what they say, who can rock a mic wit their energy, not just big words that sounds like it's being read off a paper....and that is why eazy-e >>>>>>>>>> joe budden

Pretty much.

You pretty much just summed up 95% of what the mainstream is.

Yet you both hate on every popular act on the industry. ::)


the mainstream sounds like shit though, from production to flows...they on that gay shit, cant fux wit that.

Absolutely not. The top dollar production & flow along with making it catchy for extra appeal is what the mainstream is all about.

Lyrically they suck...just like Eazy...but Eazy had some classic West Coast production & is considered a legend...so he gets a pass. Meek Mill is more lyrical than Eazy-E; it's just not "cool" to hate on Eazy.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: whoisthis on October 03, 2013, 05:12:35 PM


knowin how to use your voice and personality on the mic is indeed a talent....for instance, his kids got the same voice. look at the difference.

I think it was Dre and Cube that really showed Eazy how to use his voice. His personality just came out. The difference I see with his Kids is that they're not working with top notch legends like Dre and Cube.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Sccit on October 03, 2013, 08:13:44 PM


knowin how to use your voice and personality on the mic is indeed a talent....for instance, his kids got the same voice. look at the difference.

I think it was Dre and Cube that really showed Eazy how to use his voice. His personality just came out. The difference I see with his Kids is that they're not working with top notch legends like Dre and Cube.

LIL EAZY N E3 ARE DOPE, MAYBE EVEN DOPER THAN EAZY LYRICALLY...BUT THEY DONT HAVE ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THE SAME CHARISMA AND PRESENCE...DONT MATTER WHERE EAZY WAS TAUGHT IT FROM, HE GOT IT DOWN AND THATS MORE THAN U CAN SAY FOR MOST RAPPERS. HE SOUNDED JUST AS GOOD AFTER THE DEPARTURE OF DRE AND CUBE, AND WHILE I DO AGREE THAT THEY HELPED HIM IN DEVELOPMENT, U GOTTA GIVE EAZY A LOT OF THE CREDIT TOO...HE HAD THAT NATURAL PASSION FOR EVERYTHING, AND THATS RARE.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Sccit on October 03, 2013, 08:16:30 PM
Puff gets shit for things that Eazy gets a pass on.

Not from me. Eazy was so weak. Snoop too.

They're the OG versions of Game, letting production carry them the entire way through & just know the right way to ride it...well read someone else's lyrics on how to ride it.


it's called personality, mic presence, flow, delivery, voice control, passion, charm etc......personally, i could never sit through an entire joe budden album, because i much rather hear some simple shit with personality and meaning than some great lyrics with monotone ass flows...if i want great lyrics, ill watch rap battles on youtube....i want shit that slaps, sounds good, rappers who mean what they say, who can rock a mic wit their energy, not just big words that sounds like it's being read off a paper....and that is why eazy-e >>>>>>>>>> joe budden

Pretty much.

You pretty much just summed up 95% of what the mainstream is.

Yet you both hate on every popular act on the industry. ::)


the mainstream sounds like shit though, from production to flows...they on that gay shit, cant fux wit that.

Absolutely not. The top dollar production & flow along with making it catchy for extra appeal is what the mainstream is all about.

Lyrically they suck...just like Eazy...but Eazy had some classic West Coast production & is considered a legend...so he gets a pass. Meek Mill is more lyrical than Eazy-E; it's just not "cool" to hate on Eazy.


THE DIFFERENCE IS MEEK MILL SOUNDS LIKE A FAGGOT WHILE EAZY IS THE PERFECT EMBODIMENT OF A G BEHIND THE MIC...MEANING, U CAN ACTUALLY FEEL WHAT EAZY IS SAYING WHEN HE RAPS IT. SHIT GRABS U......MAYBE NOT FOR U, WE DO GOT DIFFERENT TASTES, BUT FOR ME, ANYTHING EAZY HAS EVER DONE PRETTY MUCH SHITS ON ANYTHING COMIN OUT IN THE MAINSTREAM OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS OR SO. A LOT OF IT DOES HAVE 2 DO WITH DOPE PRODUCTION, BUT GIVE ME EAZY E OVER A SIMPLE DRUM LOOP, SPITTIN THAT PASSIONATE GANGSTA SHIT WIT THE DRAGGED OUT WORDS OVER MEEK MILL SPITTIN ON A SLAPPIN BEAT ANY DAY
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: whoisthis on October 03, 2013, 08:19:07 PM


LIL EAZY N E3 ARE DOPE, MAYBE EVEN DOPER THAN EAZY LYRICALLY...BUT THEY DONT HAVE ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THE SAME CHARISMA AND PRESENCE...DONT MATTER WHERE EAZY WAS TAUGHT IT FROM, HE GOT IT DOWN AND THATS MORE THAN U CAN SAY FOR MOST RAPPERS. HE SOUNDED JUST AS GOOD AFTER THE DEPARTURE OF DRE AND CUBE, AND WHILE I DO AGREE THAT THEY HELPED HIM IN DEVELOPMENT, U GOTTA GIVE EAZY A LOT OF THE CREDIT TOO...HE HAD THAT NATURAL PASSION FOR EVERYTHING, AND THATS RARE.

You're a Basketball guy. Some of those Street Ballers are better than many NBA players. But, they don't have right people around them to take those raw skills and turn them into Pro-Level athletes. You can say the same for any artist that is good lyrically, but lacks the rest of the foundation. I can say Eazy was a good student, but I can't say that he was truly skilled.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Sccit on October 03, 2013, 08:20:27 PM


LIL EAZY N E3 ARE DOPE, MAYBE EVEN DOPER THAN EAZY LYRICALLY...BUT THEY DONT HAVE ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THE SAME CHARISMA AND PRESENCE...DONT MATTER WHERE EAZY WAS TAUGHT IT FROM, HE GOT IT DOWN AND THATS MORE THAN U CAN SAY FOR MOST RAPPERS. HE SOUNDED JUST AS GOOD AFTER THE DEPARTURE OF DRE AND CUBE, AND WHILE I DO AGREE THAT THEY HELPED HIM IN DEVELOPMENT, U GOTTA GIVE EAZY A LOT OF THE CREDIT TOO...HE HAD THAT NATURAL PASSION FOR EVERYTHING, AND THATS RARE.

You're a Basketball guy. Some of those Street Ballers are better than many NBA players. But, they don't have right people around them to take those raw skills and turn them into Pro-Level athletes. You can say the same for any artist that is good lyrically, but lacks the rest of the foundation. I can say Eazy was a good student, but I can't say that he was truly skilled.


VERY TRUE...LOTS OF RAW TALENT OUT THERE, NO DOUBT. BUT LIKE U SAID, THEY AINT BEEN DEVELOPED WIT THE RIGHT PEOPLE SURROUNDIN EM. SO WE CAN ONLY JUDGE THEM FOR WHAT THEY ARE, NOT WHAT THEY CAN BE


BEING ABLE TO LEARN IS A SKILL ON ITS OWN
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 03, 2013, 08:23:34 PM
Eazy is considered a top five West legend all-time; of course his work will be held in MUCH higher regard.

I'm not even really trying to say that today's mainstream is so much better than him...or better than him at all for that matter. I'm just saying, for someone who just pretty much said just coasting over INCREDIBLE production is better than absolute pure lyricism with less "catch" in the flow, you'd think you'd feel a few mainstream acts.

I guess today just isn't gangsta enough for your triple-OG ass.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Sccit on October 03, 2013, 08:29:12 PM
Eazy is considered a top five West legend all-time; of course his work will be held in MUCH higher regard.

I'm not even really trying to say that today's mainstream is so much better than him...or better than him at all for that matter. I'm just saying, for someone who just pretty much said just coasting over INCREDIBLE production is better than absolute pure lyricism with less "catch" in the flow, you'd think you'd feel a few mainstream acts.

I guess today just isn't gangsta enough for your triple-OG ass.


he doesnt just coast through incredible production, tho...thats what u dont get. ud be amazed at how much harder it is to flow with that sorta energy and passion on cue than to sit down and write some lyrical shit and just read it off the paper in rhythm, real spit.

and i do feel some mainstream shit, as long as it's that real shit.. but nowhere close 2 as much as eazy
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: whoisthis on October 03, 2013, 08:31:47 PM


VERY TRUE...LOTS OF RAW TALENT OUT THERE, NO DOUBT. BUT LIKE U SAID, THEY AINT BEEN DEVELOPED WIT THE RIGHT PEOPLE SURROUNDIN EM. SO WE CAN ONLY JUDGE THEM FOR WHAT THEY ARE, NOT WHAT THEY CAN BE


BEING ABLE TO LEARN IS A SKILL ON ITS OWN

We could get into a whole debate on my feelings of "learning" vs "talent." Instead, I'll agree to disagree.
Title: Re: Depressing Facts about Hip-Hop
Post by: Sccit on October 03, 2013, 08:46:30 PM


VERY TRUE...LOTS OF RAW TALENT OUT THERE, NO DOUBT. BUT LIKE U SAID, THEY AINT BEEN DEVELOPED WIT THE RIGHT PEOPLE SURROUNDIN EM. SO WE CAN ONLY JUDGE THEM FOR WHAT THEY ARE, NOT WHAT THEY CAN BE


BEING ABLE TO LEARN IS A SKILL ON ITS OWN

We could get into a whole debate on my feelings of "learning" vs "talent." Instead, I'll agree to disagree.

u dont think bein able to learn is a talent? some people can never be taught, no matter how hard u try. trust me.