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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Heinz on November 09, 2013, 02:30:29 PM
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Is it fit for human consumption?
And why is it adviced against eating it by the major religions?
Discuss.
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Funny topic Title
For me as an muslim it is a no brainer. So I rather hear someone else perspective whether he is against it or or for it.
Top 10 Reasons Why Not To Eat Pork from a christian Blogger http://lifesourcenutrition.blogspot.nl/2011/10/top-10-reasons-why-not-to-eat-pork.html
Top 10 Reasons Why not to Eat Pork
A pig is a real garbage gut. It will eat anything including urine, excrement, dirt, decaying animal flesh, maggots, or decaying vegetables. They will even eat the cancerous growths off other pigs or animals.
The meat and fat of a pig absorbs toxins like a sponge. Their meat can be 30 times more toxic than beef or venison.
When eating beef or venison, it takes 8 to 9 hours to digest the meat so what little toxins are in the meat are slowly put into our system and can be filtered by the liver. But when pork is eaten, it takes only 4 hours to digest the meat. We thus get a much higher level of toxins within a shorter time.
Unlike other mammals, a pig does not sweat or perspire. Perspiration is a means by which toxins are removed from the body. Since a pig does not sweat, the toxins remain within its body and in the meat.
Pigs and swine are so poisonous that you can hardly kill them with strychnine or other poisons.
Swine and pigs have over a dozen parasites within them, such as tapeworms, flukes, worms, and trichinae. There is no safe temperature at which pork can be cooked to ensure that all these parasites, their cysts, and eggs will be killed.
Pig meat has twice as much fat as beef. A 3 oz T bone steak contains 8.5 grams of fat; a 3 oz pork chop contains 18 grams of fat. A 3 oz beef rib has 11.1 grams of fat; a 3 oz pork spare rib has 23.2 grams of fat.
Cows have a complex digestive system, having four stomachs. It thus takes over 24 hours to digest their vegetarian diet causing its food to be purified of toxins. In contrast, the swine's one stomach takes only about 4 hours to digest its foul diet, turning its toxic food into flesh.
The swine carries about 30 diseases which can be easily passed to humans. This is why God commanded that we are not even to touch their carcass (Leviticus 11:8).
The trichinae worm of the swine is microscopically small, and once ingested can lodge itself in our intestines, muscles, spinal cord or the brain. This results in the disease trichinosis. The symptoms are sometimes lacking, but when present they are mistaken for other diseases, such as typhoid, arthritis, rheumatism, gastritis, MS, meningitis, gall bladder trouble, or acute alcoholism.
"And the swine, because it divides the hoof, yet does not chew the cud, it is unclean unto you: you shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcass." - Leviticus 11:7, 8; Deuteronomy 14:8
Those who say Christ abolished the law condemning pork are motivated by their stomach not Scripture. The problems with pork are biological, and Christ never changed the laws of biology.
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Good post Aladin.
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Pork dose taste good though.
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Pork dose taste good though.
Judging from your contribution on this forum there is truth to the old adage:
"You are what you eat".
No wonder why you enjoy wallowing in all that perverted filth.
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hell naah
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the parasite link has to be the biggest reason to stay away from pork and most flesh in general. parasites are kind of scoffed at by western medicine (only effects people in third world countries, right??) but shit is very real and widespread. like dude mentioned, many are microscopic and most present little/no symptoms until other detrimental factors line up. and even then, unlikely to ever be diagnosed, difficult to pin down. think a good percentage of people with chronic illnesses and the like.
interesting observation, had some pork ribs a few months ago (first time in a couple of years) and had intense nightmares the following night. anecdotal stuff, but interesting nonetheless. i eat fish & eggs pretty often, occasionally chicken/lamb, but our food chains are so polluted it's hard to stay clean without sticking primarily to plant based nutrition. even then it's about picking your sources carefully. so there's the need to be particularly careful with animal foods, get the best b12 bang for buck and use in moderation.
the 'you are what you eat' adage heinz mentioned is literally true and on multiple levels. it takes on a whole new depth of meaning for people who go down that rabbit hole.
my 2pence.
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MR HEINZ DO YOU PUT HEINZ KETCHUP ON PORK?
MY SON PUTS HIS MOUTH ON PORK
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the parasite link has to be the biggest reason to stay away from pork and most flesh in general. parasites are kind of scoffed at by western medicine (only effects people in third world countries, right??) but shit is very real and widespread. like dude mentioned, many are microscopic and most present little/no symptoms until other detrimental factors line up. and even then, unlikely to ever be diagnosed, difficult to pin down. think a good percentage of people with chronic illnesses and the like.
interesting observation, had some pork ribs a few months ago (first time in a couple of years) and had intense nightmares the following night. anecdotal stuff, but interesting nonetheless. i eat fish & eggs pretty often, occasionally chicken/lamb, but our food chains are so polluted it's hard to stay clean without sticking primarily to plant based nutrition. even then it's about picking your sources carefully. so there's the need to be particularly careful with animal foods, get the best b12 bang for buck and use in moderation.
the 'you are what you eat' adage heinz mentioned is literally true and on multiple levels. it takes on a whole new depth of meaning for people who go down that rabbit hole.
my 2pence.
Good post Matty. Thanks for bringing a spiritual angle to the discussion.
Also for bringing personal experience into it and not just quotes from somewhere else.
I know that in the old days taoist monks were adviced strongly against eating pork as it effects the chi of the body negatively.
At the temples they ate a strictly vegetarian (usually self grown or locally harvested) diet combined with austere bodily discipline (martial arts) and meditation techniques they achieved internal and external health and sensitivity unheard of these days.
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The Hindu's and their dietary philosophy have the three gunas:
Sattva : Purity
Rajas : Activity/Passion
Tamas : Darkness
Tamasic foods are mainly meats, in particular pork. And a tamasic person becomes defined by that which he he eats and it manifests itself physically/spiritually.
An attraction/addiction to harmful toxins like alcohol and drugs/opiates is always more prevalent with persons eating a high tamasic diet.
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Also for bringing personal experience into it and not just quotes from somewhere else.
For the record .........I can not bring any personal experience, because I don't have any.
I have never eaten Pork.
So I can not miss, what I never had.
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Also for bringing personal experience into it and not just quotes from somewhere else.
For the record .........I can not bring any personal experience, because I don't have any.
I have never eaten Pork.
So I can not miss, what I never had.
Neither can I that's why I appreciate Matty sharing his direct experience.
The only thing I can judge from is personal observation and understanding of those that do eat pork.
It corresponds well with the Tamasic spiritual view that Hindu's have.
On a side note:
Eating a fleshy/meaty phallic shaped thing like a sausage/hot dog is suspect to me.
It is something really wrong about doing this on so many levels.
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Wow so you guys have never enjoyed bacon and eggs for breakfast? never had pork ribs on the BBQ? never had yummy pork chops? never had yummy pork the way the Asians cook it with the crispy skin?, never had roast pork with roasted vegies and gravy!? oh man that shit is so good, pork crackly is so good too!, never had a burger with bacon on it??? man that shit is good, never had pork on the spit??? man you guys are missing out.
Religion is stupid.
Theres plenty of Muslims that are murders and perverts and rapists and pedophiles and commit suicide and are mad bastards and power hungry and etc so dont blame tha pork mate!
Some interesting facts that you guys pointed out though. I hadn't heard many of them, it is interesting. i wonder how much of hat is actually fact?
Iam not going to suggest that any of it is false but i mean most people eat pork so...
And most Japanese eat mostly seafood, rice n shit so you cant blame pork for them being so weird either.
I actually eat red meat and chicken way more than pork but pork is good. bacon is a good hang over cure too.
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Wow so you guys have never enjoyed bacon and eggs for breakfast? never had pork ribs on the BBQ? never had yummy pork chops? never had yummy pork the way the Asians cook it with the crispy skin?, never had roast pork with roasted vegies and gravy!? oh man that shit is so good, pork crackly is so good too!, never had a burger with bacon on it??? man that shit is good, never had pork on the spit??? man you guys are missing out.
Religion is stupid.
Theres plenty of Muslims that are murders and perverts and rapists and pedophiles and commit suicide and are mad bastards and power hungry and etc so dont blame tha pork mate!
Just cause something tastes good it doesn't mean it IS good for you. Wouldn't limit this to pork, though.
Eating a fleshy/meaty phallic shaped thing like a sausage/hot dog is suspect to me.
It is something really wrong about doing this on so many levels.
Associating sausage with penises is a little suspect, too, isn't it? ;) On the other hand, men associate everything phallic shaped with penises so I wouldn't overestimate the symbolic relevance of sausage, after all.
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Wow so you guys have never enjoyed bacon and eggs for breakfast? never had pork ribs on the BBQ? never had yummy pork chops? never had yummy pork the way the Asians cook it with the crispy skin?, never had roast pork with roasted vegies and gravy!? oh man that shit is so good, pork crackly is so good too!, never had a burger with bacon on it??? man that shit is good, never had pork on the spit??? man you guys are missing out.
Religion is stupid.
Theres plenty of Muslims that are murders and perverts and rapists and pedophiles and commit suicide and are mad bastards and power hungry and etc so dont blame tha pork mate!
Some interesting facts that you guys pointed out though. I hadn't heard many of them, it is interesting. i wonder how much of hat is actually fact?
Iam not going to suggest that any of it is false but i mean most people eat pork so...
And most Japanese eat mostly seafood, rice n shit so you cant blame pork for them being so weird either.
I actually eat red meat and chicken way more than pork but pork is good. bacon is a good hang over cure too.
You upset and trying to retaliate by firing shots all over the place?
Good job missing with every single bullet pigboy.
Go search "bacon and pancreatic cancer" then come back pounding your chest about how good bacon tastes.
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Fraxx: On the subject of phallic foodstuff, have a pickle:
(http://i41.tinypic.com/24cwfi1.jpg)
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i fired shots? i did ???
but what dosent cause cancer mate? seriously, tell me? everything causes cancer. You probably smoke...
EDIT: lol and why would i be upset that you are missing out? i dont give a fuck mate. I dont smoke and almost all food is bad for you, even healthy stuff is bad for you these days so...
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i fired shots? i did ???
but what dosent cause cancer mate? seriously, tell me? everything causes cancer. You probably smoke...
EDIT: lol and why would i be upset that you are missing out? i dont give a fuck mate. I dont smoke and almost all food is bad for you, even healthy stuff is bad for you these days so...
Stop squealing and stay on topic.
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Fraxx: On the subject of phallic foodstuff, have a pickle:
(http://i41.tinypic.com/24cwfi1.jpg)
LMAO Okay, THAT leaves little room for interpretation!
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Wow so you guys have never enjoyed bacon and eggs for breakfast? never had pork ribs on the BBQ? never had yummy pork chops? never had yummy pork the way the Asians cook it with the crispy skin?, never had roast pork with roasted vegies and gravy!? oh man that shit is so good, pork crackly is so good too!, never had a burger with bacon on it??? man that shit is good, never had pork on the spit??? man you guys are missing out.
No I honestly never have had Pork.
Nor do I feel the urge 2 eat it.
That is probably due to the fact that I was disgusted with the Animal from early on.
I remember my father used 2 buy a sheep from a local farmer for Korban (Animal 2 sacrifice) when th muslim holiday would arrive.
We sacrfice that sheep like Prophet Abraham (May God be pleased with him) sacrifced the animal that replaced his son.
My father brought me always along as a young kid, because I was the oldest.
The Farmer a nice guy we would pay for the sheep and he would let us use his land where my Father would slaughter the animal according 2 our tradition.
As a kid it was an amazing experience for me.
My father would also prepare the sheep after it was slaughtered.
When My father removed the intestines we did not use.
He got rid of it by throwing it next 2 a field.
When He threw it there. A pig came running and start eating the intestines.
I was disgusted by that.
That picture never left my brain and till this day whenever I take my childeren 2 an animal farm. I always skip the pigs, somehow they disgust me.
No disrespect intented for the ones who eat it. It tell you just my point of view.
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Wow so you guys have never enjoyed bacon and eggs for breakfast? never had pork ribs on the BBQ? never had yummy pork chops? never had yummy pork the way the Asians cook it with the crispy skin?, never had roast pork with roasted vegies and gravy!? oh man that shit is so good, pork crackly is so good too!, never had a burger with bacon on it??? man that shit is good, never had pork on the spit??? man you guys are missing out.
No I honestly never have had Pork.
Nor do I feel the urge 2 eat it.
That is probably due to the fact that I was disgusted with the Animal from early on.
I remember my father used 2 buy a sheep from a local farmer for Korban (Animal 2 sacrifice) when th muslim holiday would arrive.
We sacrfice that sheep like Prophet Abraham (May God be pleased with him) sacrifced the animal that replaced his son.
My father brought me always along as a young kid, because I was the oldest.
The Farmer a nice guy we would pay for the sheep and he would let us use his land where my Father would slaughter the animal according 2 our tradition.
As a kid it was an amazing experience for me.
My father would also prepare the sheep after it was slaughtered.
When My father removed the intestines we did not use.
He got rid of it by throwing it next 2 a field.
When He threw it there. A pig came running and start eating the intestines.
I was disgusted by that.
That picture never left my brain and till this day whenever I take my childeren 2 an animal farm. I always skip the pigs, somehow they disgust me.
No disrespect intented for the ones who eat it. It tell you just my point of view.
Where did you grow up?
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Wow so you guys have never enjoyed bacon and eggs for breakfast? never had pork ribs on the BBQ? never had yummy pork chops? never had yummy pork the way the Asians cook it with the crispy skin?, never had roast pork with roasted vegies and gravy!? oh man that shit is so good, pork crackly is so good too!, never had a burger with bacon on it??? man that shit is good, never had pork on the spit??? man you guys are missing out.
No I honestly never have had Pork.
Nor do I feel the urge 2 eat it.
That is probably due to the fact that I was disgusted with the Animal from early on.
I remember my father used 2 buy a sheep from a local farmer for Korban (Animal 2 sacrifice) when th muslim holiday would arrive.
We sacrfice that sheep like Prophet Abraham (May God be pleased with him) sacrifced the animal that replaced his son.
My father brought me always along as a young kid, because I was the oldest.
The Farmer a nice guy we would pay for the sheep and he would let us use his land where my Father would slaughter the animal according 2 our tradition.
As a kid it was an amazing experience for me.
My father would also prepare the sheep after it was slaughtered.
When My father removed the intestines we did not use.
He got rid of it by throwing it next 2 a field.
When He threw it there. A pig came running and start eating the intestines.
I was disgusted by that.
That picture never left my brain and till this day whenever I take my childeren 2 an animal farm. I always skip the pigs, somehow they disgust me.
No disrespect intented for the ones who eat it. It tell you just my point of view.
Where did you grow up?
I am what you Americans call a Euro. :)
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the parasite link has to be the biggest reason to stay away from pork and most flesh in general. parasites are kind of scoffed at by western medicine (only effects people in third world countries, right??) but shit is very real and widespread. like dude mentioned, many are microscopic and most present little/no symptoms until other detrimental factors line up. and even then, unlikely to ever be diagnosed, difficult to pin down. think a good percentage of people with chronic illnesses and the like.
interesting observation, had some pork ribs a few months ago (first time in a couple of years) and had intense nightmares the following night. anecdotal stuff, but interesting nonetheless. i eat fish & eggs pretty often, occasionally chicken/lamb, but our food chains are so polluted it's hard to stay clean without sticking primarily to plant based nutrition. even then it's about picking your sources carefully. so there's the need to be particularly careful with animal foods, get the best b12 bang for buck and use in moderation.
the 'you are what you eat' adage heinz mentioned is literally true and on multiple levels. it takes on a whole new depth of meaning for people who go down that rabbit hole.
my 2pence.
Good post Matty. Thanks for bringing a spiritual angle to the discussion.
Also for bringing personal experience into it and not just quotes from somewhere else.
I know that in the old days taoist monks were adviced strongly against eating pork as it effects the chi of the body negatively.
At the temples they ate a strictly vegetarian (usually self grown or locally harvested) diet combined with austere bodily discipline (martial arts) and meditation techniques they achieved internal and external health and sensitivity unheard of these days.
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The Hindu's and their dietary philosophy have the three gunas:
Sattva : Purity
Rajas : Activity/Passion
Tamas : Darkness
Tamasic foods are mainly meats, in particular pork. And a tamasic person becomes defined by that which he he eats and it manifests itself physically/spiritually.
An attraction/addiction to harmful toxins like alcohol and drugs/opiates is always more prevalent with persons eating a high tamasic diet.
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very interesting stuff. the taoist school of health philosophy is most interesting and something i've been studying/applying for a while now, particularly in regards to herbalism. i'm not so up on the ayurvedic system, but like so many things, the chinese are masters of getting existing understanding and adapting it, taking it to the next level. the stuff about heightened levels of sensitivity and 'myths' of people living beyond what is normally thought possible, via working with and mastering 'energy', is fascinating. we could have a whole thread to get into some that stuff is anyone is interested.
slightly more on topic - you get a huge amount of 'yang jing' or physical energy from certain animal foods, particularly a large steak. that's why i think they can be useful in our diets, if used smartly. it's also hard to maintain optimal levels of b12 through a vegan diet, though by no means impossible (soil organisms). body type is another key factor - people who are naturally more yang/fire type/strong would find it much easier to eat a vegan, high raw foods diet and be balanced. either way it's about finding energetic balance and getting the most bang for buck from what we put in our bodies, while minimizing the risks of anything detrimental getting in (parasites).
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the parasite link has to be the biggest reason to stay away from pork and most flesh in general. parasites are kind of scoffed at by western medicine (only effects people in third world countries, right??) but shit is very real and widespread. like dude mentioned, many are microscopic and most present little/no symptoms until other detrimental factors line up. and even then, unlikely to ever be diagnosed, difficult to pin down. think a good percentage of people with chronic illnesses and the like.
interesting observation, had some pork ribs a few months ago (first time in a couple of years) and had intense nightmares the following night. anecdotal stuff, but interesting nonetheless. i eat fish & eggs pretty often, occasionally chicken/lamb, but our food chains are so polluted it's hard to stay clean without sticking primarily to plant based nutrition. even then it's about picking your sources carefully. so there's the need to be particularly careful with animal foods, get the best b12 bang for buck and use in moderation.
the 'you are what you eat' adage heinz mentioned is literally true and on multiple levels. it takes on a whole new depth of meaning for people who go down that rabbit hole.
my 2pence.
Good post Matty. Thanks for bringing a spiritual angle to the discussion.
Also for bringing personal experience into it and not just quotes from somewhere else.
I know that in the old days taoist monks were adviced strongly against eating pork as it effects the chi of the body negatively.
At the temples they ate a strictly vegetarian (usually self grown or locally harvested) diet combined with austere bodily discipline (martial arts) and meditation techniques they achieved internal and external health and sensitivity unheard of these days.
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The Hindu's and their dietary philosophy have the three gunas:
Sattva : Purity
Rajas : Activity/Passion
Tamas : Darkness
Tamasic foods are mainly meats, in particular pork. And a tamasic person becomes defined by that which he he eats and it manifests itself physically/spiritually.
An attraction/addiction to harmful toxins like alcohol and drugs/opiates is always more prevalent with persons eating a high tamasic diet.
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very interesting stuff. the taoist school of health philosophy is most interesting and something i've been studying/applying for a while now, particularly in regards to herbalism. i'm not so up on the ayurvedic system, but like so many things, the chinese are masters of getting existing understanding and adapting it, taking it to the next level. the stuff about heightened levels of sensitivity and 'myths' of people living beyond what is normally thought possible, via working with and mastering 'energy', is fascinating. we could have a whole thread to get into some that stuff is anyone is interested.
slightly more on topic - you get a huge amount of 'yang jing' or physical energy from certain animal foods, particularly a large steak. that's why i think they can be useful in our diets, if used smartly. it's also hard to maintain optimal levels of b12 through a vegan diet, though by no means impossible (soil organisms). body type is another key factor - people who are naturally more yang/fire type/strong would find it much easier to eat a vegan, high raw foods diet and be balanced. either way it's about finding energetic balance and getting the most bang for buck from what we put in our bodies, while minimizing the risks of anything detrimental getting in (parasites).
The danger is to be speaking from a strictly theoretical point of view.
My training was with a chinese taoist master (R.I.P Master Ching Pong Liu) so I have more than a decade of first hand experience with the cultivation of qi.
The mind is what has to be in balance before anything fruitful can be achieved.
Most good manuals/books on the subject are in chinese and would be difficult to study without the guidance of a teacher.
For those interested in an entertaining read Ming-Dao Deng's "Chronicles of Tao: The Secret Life of a Taoist Master " is worth checking out:
http://www.amazon.com/Chronicles-Tao-Secret-Taoist-Master/dp/0062502190/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
and for those more intersted in the esoteric "Kung-Fu, or Tauist Medical Gymnastics" translated by John Dudgeon is a rare little gem:
http://sacred-texts.com/tao/kfu/index.htm
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only pussies feat the swine.
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unless its on pizza in the form of peperoni i dont eat it at all i rarely fuck with bacon either.
im not sure i could ever go without beef though...i can hook up a mean steak
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only pussies fear the swine.
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only pussies fear the swine.
I don't understand the logic in that statement.
If they disgust me on a personal level, does not mean I fear them.
That is like me saying why don't you eat your evening diner in the restroom instead of the dining room.
A normal answer would be: "That is disgusting"
According to your logic your a pussy for fearing eating in the restroom. ::)
This is no diss to ya, I just want 2 make it clear that the reasoning behind your statement is flawed.
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i say fuck it don't like like don't eat end of story we all must die some day
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only pussies fear the swine.
I don't understand the logic in that statement.
If they disgust me on a personal level, does not mean I fear them.
That is like me saying why don't you eat your evening diner in the restroom instead of the dining room.
A normal answer would be: "That is disgusting"
According to your logic your a pussy for fearing eating in the restroom. ::)
This is no diss to ya, I just want 2 make it clear that the reasoning behind your statement is flawed.
youre a pussy if you wouldnt eat in the restroom too.
i ask you this: if you had no other food option other than pork, would you die of starvation?
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youre a pussy if you wouldnt eat in the restroom too.
i ask you this: if you had no other food option other than pork, would you die of starvation?
No, if we must must choose between two evils. Then we choose the lesser evil.
Which is Eating the flesh of porc.
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I like Sikotic's logic of what makes one fearless is eating ungodly crap (preferably in a toilet).
Perhaps when he wants to feel real manly he heads to a men's restroom and devours a handful of sausages.
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only pussies feat the swine.
thats why u spelled it "feat", then went back and tried to edit it, but u ended up pressin quote instead of modify.....the swine fuckin ya brain up and u aint even know it
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i love pork. carnitas al pastor bacon ham sausage porkchop ribs goddamn how can so much good food come off one animal. and all farm animals are pretty gross to be around, doesnt mean they dont taste delicious
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Scarface - I'm Black
"The 22 years I been here I saw
motherfuckers disrespect god before they disrespect the law
but yo I gots ta diss 'em
cuz I refuse to be mislead by this ungodly system"
I really don't judge the ones that eat Porc.
You are solely responsible for yourself.
I just present my views. So don't feel attacked, because I have a different way of life then yours.
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I love pork! I know I will die young, I drink I smoke I eat pork!
Ohh shit! Giant picture alert!
(http://www.roadfood.com/insider/photos/8053.jpg)
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that shit looks delicious :o
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I really don't judge the ones that eat Porc.
You are solely responsible for yourself.
I just present my views. So don't feel attacked, because I have a different way of life then yours.
Stop trying to be so spiritually correct.
People that eat pork are untermensch and will burn in a hell of their own making.
Laughing at them for being stupid and inferior is justified.
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Stop trying to be so spiritually correct.
People that eat pork are untermensch and will burn in a hell of their own making.
Laughing at them for being stupid and inferior is justified.
I believe that G_d is the Judge.
So I don't judge people... I did tell what we believe is right or wrong.
I added:
You are solely responsible for yourself.
you attract more flies with honey than vinegar
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Stop trying to be so spiritually correct.
People that eat pork are untermensch and will burn in a hell of their own making.
Laughing at them for being stupid and inferior is justified.
I believe that G_d is the Judge.
So I don't judge people... I did tell what we believe is right or wrong.
I added:
You are solely responsible for yourself.
you attract more flies with honey than vinegar
It was meant as a joke my friend. At least parts of it.
Nice saying at the end.
Props
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I love pork! I know I will die young, I drink I smoke I eat pork!
Ohh shit! Giant picture alert!
(http://www.roadfood.com/insider/photos/8053.jpg)
eating pork is worse than drinking and smoking combined
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that shit looks delicious :o
would c better if that pork was chicken
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It was meant as a joke my friend. At least parts of it.
Nice saying at the end.
Props
Oh oke.
Did you know that tomorrow is Ashura.
In the Sunni tradition we commemorate the day when Prophet Moshe (Moses, May God be pleased with him) fasted as to show Gratitude that God Saved the Jews from Pharao.
Our Prophet also fasted on that day.
And Inshallah (God willing) Tomorrow I will also fast.
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I am guilty of eating swine. I'm a sucker for bacon, prob have it damn near once a week. It is delicious.
I think there are very valid arguments against consuming it, many of which y'all laid out. For similar reason I don't fuck with shrimp nor crawfish/shellfish etc. They are bottom feeders and potentially toxic.
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I am guilty of eating swine. I'm a sucker for bacon, prob have it damn near once a week. It is delicious.
I think there are very valid arguments against consuming it, many of which y'all laid out. For similar reason I don't fuck with shrimp nor crawfish/shellfish etc. They are bottom feeders and potentially toxic.
yup...that shit aint kosher neither
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I am guilty of eating swine. I'm a sucker for bacon, prob have it damn near once a week. It is delicious.
I think there are very valid arguments against consuming it, many of which y'all laid out. For similar reason I don't fuck with shrimp nor crawfish/shellfish etc. They are bottom feeders and potentially toxic.
Plus it's digging our own graves since 90% of what's caught fishing for shrimp etc. is thrown back into the ocean dead. That's a horrible ratio and doing so much senseless damage to the oceans, it's ridiculous.
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In due time people will hopefully see the practical value of following the jewish commandments.
They were given for our benefit and spiritual enhancement.
Keep it kosher!
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In due time people will hopefully see the practical value of following the jewish commandments.
They were given for our benefit and spiritual enhancement.
Keep it kosher!
real spit
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I am guilty of eating swine. I'm a sucker for bacon, prob have it damn near once a week. It is delicious.
I think there are very valid arguments against consuming it, many of which y'all laid out. For similar reason I don't fuck with shrimp nor crawfish/shellfish etc. They are bottom feeders and potentially toxic.
Plus it's digging our own graves since 90% of what's caught fishing for shrimp etc. is thrown back into the ocean dead. That's a horrible ratio and doing so much senseless damage to the oceans, it's ridiculous.
Well the bottom of an ocean floor per se is gonna have trash, shit, carcasses, whale jizz, gasoline/oil/engine exhaust etc....I'm thinking consuming that is worse than swine.
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In due time people will hopefully see the practical value of following the jewish commandments.
They were given for our benefit and spiritual enhancement.
Keep it kosher!
I assume you're a student of the Torah and not the Talmud?
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In due time people will hopefully see the practical value of following the jewish commandments.
They were given for our benefit and spiritual enhancement.
Keep it kosher!
agreed i cant co sign the sex stuff though dont you have to fuck your wife thru a sheet with a whole cut in the middle of it if you an orthodox jew?
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In due time people will hopefully see the practical value of following the jewish commandments.
They were given for our benefit and spiritual enhancement.
Keep it kosher!
agreed i cant co sign the sex stuff though dont you have to fuck your wife thru a sheet with a whole cut in the middle of it if you an orthodox jew?
http://www.jewfaq.org/sex.htm
Jewish Attitudes Towards Sexuality
In Jewish law, sex is not considered shameful, sinful or obscene. Sex is not thought of as a necessary evil for the sole purpose of procreation. Although sexual desire comes from the yetzer ra (the evil impulse), it is no more evil than hunger or thirst, which also come from the yetzer ra. Like hunger, thirst or other basic instincts, sexual desire must be controlled and channeled, satisfied at the proper time, place and manner. But when sexual desire is satisfied between a husband and wife at the proper time, out of mutual love and desire, sex is a mitzvah.
Sex is permissible only within the context of a marriage. In Judaism, sex is not merely a way of experiencing physical pleasure. It is an act of immense significance, which requires commitment and responsibility. The requirement of marriage before sex ensures that sense of commitment and responsibility. Jewish law also forbids sexual contact short of intercourse outside of the context of marriage, recognizing that such contact will inevitably lead to intercourse.
The primary purpose of sex is to reinforce the loving marital bond between husband and wife. The first and foremost purpose of marriage is companionship, and sexual relations play an important role. Procreation is also a reason for sex, but it is not the only reason. Sex between husband and wife is permitted (even recommended) at times when conception is impossible, such as when the woman is pregnant, after menopause, or when the woman is using a permissible form of contraception.
In the Torah, the word used for sex between husband and wife comes from the root Yod-Dalet-Ayin, meaning "to know," which vividly illustrates that proper Jewish sexuality involves both the heart and mind, not merely the body.
Nevertheless, Judaism does not ignore the physical component of sexuality. The need for physical compatibility between husband and wife is recognized in Jewish law. A Jewish couple must meet at least once before the marriage, and if either prospective spouse finds the other physically repulsive, the marriage is forbidden.
Sex should only be experienced in a time of joy. Sex for selfish personal satisfaction, without regard for the partner's pleasure, is wrong and evil. A man may never force his wife to have sex. A couple may not have sexual relations while drunk or quarreling. Sex may never be used as a weapon against a spouse, either by depriving the spouse of sex or by compelling it. It is a serious offense to use sex (or lack thereof) to punish or manipulate a spouse.
Sex is the woman's right, not the man's. A man has a duty to give his wife sex regularly and to ensure that sex is pleasurable for her. He is also obligated to watch for signs that his wife wants sex, and to offer it to her without her asking for it. The woman's right to sexual intercourse is referred to as onah, and it is one of a wife's three basic rights (the others are food and clothing), which a husband may not reduce. The Talmud specifies both the quantity and quality of sex that a man must give his wife. It specifies the frequency of sexual obligation based on the husband's occupation, although this obligation can be modified in the ketubah (marriage contract). A man may not take a vow to abstain from sex for an extended period of time, and may not take a journey for an extended period of time, because that would deprive his wife of sexual relations. In addition, a husband's consistent refusal to engage in sexual relations is grounds for compelling a man to divorce his wife, even if the couple has already fulfilled the halakhic obligation to procreate.
Although sex is the woman's right, she does not have absolute discretion to withhold it from her husband. A woman may not withhold sex from her husband as a form of punishment, and if she does, the husband may divorce her without paying the substantial divorce settlement provided for in the ketubah.
Although some sources take a more narrow view, the general view of halakhah is that any sexual act that does not involve sh'chatat zerah (destruction of seed, that is, ejaculation outside the vagina) is permissible. As one passage in the Talmud states, "a man may do whatever he pleases with his wife." (Nedarim 20b) In fact, there are passages in the Talmud that encourage foreplay to arouse the woman. (Nedarim 20a). Any stories you may have heard about Jewish sex occurring through a hole in a sheet are purely an urban legend.
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In due time people will hopefully see the practical value of following the jewish commandments.
They were given for our benefit and spiritual enhancement.
Keep it kosher!
agreed i cant co sign the sex stuff though dont you have to fuck your wife thru a sheet with a whole cut in the middle of it if you an orthodox jew?
yes or no answer please
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No :)
http://www.cracked.com/article_19575_5-ridiculous-sex-myths-from-history-you-probably-believe.html
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In due time people will hopefully see the practical value of following the jewish commandments.
They were given for our benefit and spiritual enhancement.
Keep it kosher!
agreed i cant co sign the sex stuff though dont you have to fuck your wife thru a sheet with a whole cut in the middle of it if you an orthodox jew?
lmao
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In due time people will hopefully see the practical value of following the jewish commandments.
They were given for our benefit and spiritual enhancement.
Keep it kosher!
agreed i cant co sign the sex stuff though dont you have to fuck your wife thru a sheet with a whole cut in the middle of it if you an orthodox jew?
yes or no answer please
read what he posted...sex is more accepted in judaism than christianity and most other religions.
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read what he posted...sex is more accepted in judaism than christianity and most other religions.
I got to disagree there Nikcc, can you marry up to four wives?
About the sex though a hole... is probably a deviant small sect who in the name of Judaism did something like that.
I tell you there was a deviant small sect who claim to be muslims a couple hundred years back.
Once every year all the men and women would gather in a place where there would be camp fires.
And at midnight the fires would be extinguished.
And everyone would start running, and every women you could 'catch', you could have sex with.
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i may convert to Judaism. i have the nose for it.
everything else sounds pretty cool the benefits are obvious....sign me up guys.
i dont have to grow the lil things that shyne has on the side of his head do i ?(http://thejasminebrand.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/shynes-hair-3.jpg)
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read what he posted...sex is more accepted in judaism than christianity and most other religions.
I got to disagree there Nikcc, can you marry up to four wives?
About the sex though a hole... is probably a deviant small sect who in the name of Judaism did something like that.
I tell you there was a deviant small sect who claim to be muslims a couple hundred years back.
Once every year all the men and women would gather in a place where there would be camp fires.
And at midnight the fires would be extinguished.
And everyone would start running, and every women you could 'catch', you could have sex with.
Jewish scripture does not prohibit you from having more than one wife.
There are a few examples of those that had several, Abraham for instance.
Not sure why it should speak in favor of a religion that you are able to have several wives...(unless you are trying to start your own tribe).
It is difficult enough to respectfully keep up with one.
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read what he posted...sex is more accepted in judaism than christianity and most other religions.
I got to disagree there Nikcc, can you marry up to four wives?
About the sex though a hole... is probably a deviant small sect who in the name of Judaism did something like that.
I tell you there was a deviant small sect who claim to be muslims a couple hundred years back.
Once every year all the men and women would gather in a place where there would be camp fires.
And at midnight the fires would be extinguished.
And everyone would start running, and every women you could 'catch', you could have sex with.
Jewish scripture does not prohibit you from having more than one wife.
There are a few examples of those that had several, Abraham for instance.
Not sure why it should speak in favor of a religion that you are able to have several wives...(unless you are trying to start your own tribe).
It is difficult enough to respectfully keep up with one.
It was a joke in reference to Nikcc claim that sex is more accepted in Judaism then most other religion.
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are those anime girls going to go to hell?
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read what he posted...sex is more accepted in judaism than christianity and most other religions.
I got to disagree there Nikcc, can you marry up to four wives?
About the sex though a hole... is probably a deviant small sect who in the name of Judaism did something like that.
I tell you there was a deviant small sect who claim to be muslims a couple hundred years back.
Once every year all the men and women would gather in a place where there would be camp fires.
And at midnight the fires would be extinguished.
And everyone would start running, and every women you could 'catch', you could have sex with.
Jewish scripture does not prohibit you from having more than one wife.
There are a few examples of those that had several, Abraham for instance.
Not sure why it should speak in favor of a religion that you are able to have several wives...(unless you are trying to start your own tribe).
It is difficult enough to respectfully keep up with one.
It was a joke in reference to Nikcc claim that sex is more accepted in Judaism then most other religion.
I thought having a sense of humor was forbidden in islam.
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i may convert to Judaism.
i dont have to grow the lil things that shyne has on the side of his head do i ?(http://thejasminebrand.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/shynes-hair-3.jpg)
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I thought having a sense of humor was forbidden in islam.
No on the contrary our Prophet used to joke:
He was sitting with a kid and they both ate dates.
But the young kid was placing the date seed next to where the Prophet was placing them.
So he jokingly said 2 our beloved Prophet. "Look at the ammount of date seeds you have, you must be very hungry "
The Prophet replied: I am, but you are more hungry because you ate the dates with seeds and all, you have no seeds left in font of you.
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Muslams and jews are the scam off the earth!!! They arent both respansable for all the war going on today and yet there bittered enemies!! If your aren't a jew or a muslam you shouldnt kill you're self. And bacon is delisious....fuck ur religends that disaproof of pac and bacen!!!
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Muslams and jews are the scam off the earth!!! They arent both respansable for all the war going on today and yet there bittered enemies!!
Jews are not mine enemy, they are my distant cousins. they are the grandsons of great Prophets.
Nor are christians or atheist my enemies.
We are brothers and sisters in humanity. The father of both you and I is Adam.
Or are you one who will deny his own father?
Zionism....that is a whole different ball game...
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I thought having a sense of humor was forbidden in islam.
No on the contrary our Prophet used to joke:
He was sitting with a kid and they both ate dates.
But the young kid was placing the date seed next to where the Prophet was placing them.
So he jokingly said 2 our beloved Prophet. "Look at the ammount of date seeds you have, you must be very hungry "
The Prophet replied: I am, but you are more hungry because you ate the dates with seeds and all, you have no seeds left in font of you.
Is that from the Qur'an?
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I thought having a sense of humor was forbidden in islam.
No on the contrary our Prophet used to joke:
He was sitting with a kid and they both ate dates.
But the young kid was placing the date seed next to where the Prophet was placing them.
So he jokingly said 2 our beloved Prophet. "Look at the ammount of date seeds you have, you must be very hungry "
The Prophet replied: I am, but you are more hungry because you ate the dates with seeds and all, you have no seeds left in font of you.
Is that from the Qur'an?
No, the Quran is not like other religious scriptures.
For Example:
The Bible contains the words of Prophets, Words of G-d, History, Letters. it is a collection of different books.
The Quran contains only they words of G_d. That is why it is forbidden for us to touch it if we are (spiritual) unclean.
The sayings of the Prophet, are separate books.
Stories and interpretation are separate books.
And islamic History is separate books.
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I thought having a sense of humor was forbidden in islam.
No on the contrary our Prophet used to joke:
He was sitting with a kid and they both ate dates.
But the young kid was placing the date seed next to where the Prophet was placing them.
So he jokingly said 2 our beloved Prophet. "Look at the ammount of date seeds you have, you must be very hungry "
The Prophet replied: I am, but you are more hungry because you ate the dates with seeds and all, you have no seeds left in font of you.
Is that from the Qur'an?
No, the Quran is not like other religious scriptures.
For Example:
The Bible contains the words of Prophets, Words of G-d, History, Letters. it is a collection of different books.
The Quran contains only they words of G_d. That is why it is forbidden for us to touch it if we are (spiritual) unclean.
The sayings of the Prophet, are separate books.
Stories and interpretation are separate books.
And islamic History is separate books.
Must be hard to ever touch the Quran then.
Is there a separate book for the jokes of the Prophet?
:)
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Must be hard to ever touch the Quran then.
Is there a separate book for the jokes of the Prophet?
:)
We have a spirtual cleaning. where we wash ourselfs. It is called Wudu.. And it is obligatory before prayers and if you want 2 touch the Quran.
But no there is no book with jokes.
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lmao@a biblical joke book...u on to somethin, heinz
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one of you muthafuckas is gonna answer my question about the curley q's goddammit.
i know some of yall numbers, dont make me call and ask.
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lol naah u dont have 2 sport those dawgy, shyne jus goin all out
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man thank you i was about to txt you my brother...this would have kept me up at night.
how do you feel about shine as a jewish rapper...good look?
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man thank you i was about to txt you my brother...this would have kept me up at night.
how do you feel about shine as a jewish rapper...good look?
You don't have to let your hair grow unless you take a Nazirite vow.
With your hair growth you could have some massive payos though.
Shyne is a bad look.
As this commandment clearly state:
Thou shall not utter unholy words to the beat of a drum to make a profit.
Thy voice shall fail you and you will be ridiculed by your peers.
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man thank you i was about to txt you my brother...this would have kept me up at night.
how do you feel about shine as a jewish rapper...good look?
loll .. I respect shyne but he needs to go back to his old style tho
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Must be hard to ever touch the Quran then.
Is there a separate book for the jokes of the Prophet?
:)
We have a spirtual cleaning. where we wash ourselfs. It is called Wudu.. And it is obligatory before prayers and if you want 2 touch the Quran.
But no there is no book with jokes.
Is Wudu the arabic word for Voodoo?
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Is Wudu the arabic word for Voodoo?
No it is not.
Explanation of Wudu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFKakkcK8Xk
There are some arab words:
Noor: Light
Salat: Prayer
Sunnah: Tradition of the prophet
Wudu: Spiritual washing/cleaning
It is not coincident that you wash your hands, feet, eyes, nose, mouth.
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Wudu and voodooo both sound elaborately ritualistic.
Interesting connection.
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Well let me ask you a question then.
which Religion did Moshe Rabbani follow?
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Which Moshe Rabbani are you referring to Aladin?
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Prophet Musa in arabic. Prophet Moses in english.
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Are you asking because you don't know yourself or do you feel the need to confront me with something you think you know better than me?
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Are you asking because you don't know yourself or do you feel the need to confront me with something you think you know better than me?
No Heinz,
It is a genuine question.
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But for what purpose?
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Let me refrain that question.
If you or me where ever lucky enough 2 meet prophet Moshe on the other side and could ask him what is your religion.
What answer according to you he will give?
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I don't like to speculate or answer for someone other than myself.
And I don't believe in luck.
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let me give you mine perspective.
Moshe can not give the anwer Judaism. He never heard of it in his lifetime.
The name Judaism, is not mentioned in the Torah, nor the Mishnah, nor the Talmud.
If it is mentioned please correct me.
He would probably say. My religion is Total submission to the will of (G_d) HaShem.
You can not disagree with that term.
Islam is the only religion that is named by G_d himself. It is mentioned in the Quran.
You know what it means?
Islam means Total submission to the will of God in arabic.
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let me give you mine perspective.
Moshe can not give the anwer Judaism. He never heard of it in his lifetime.
The name Judaism, is not mentioned in the Torah, nor the Mishnah, nor the Talmud.
If it is mentioned please correct me.
He would probably say. My religion is Total submission to the will of (G_d) HaShem.
You can not disagree with that term.
Islam is the only religion that is named by G_d himself. It is mentioned in the Quran.
You know what it means?
Islam means Total submission to the will of God in arabic.
Your perspective is nothing new to me, many muslims share it with you.
Probably denotes speculation.
The truth is neither you nor I KNOW what Moses would answer.
And for you to say what I can or cannot disagree with is somewhat ignorant and assumptious.
The G_d of Moses had a very specific name according to MY faith and that is the G_d my people (Israel) are asked to submit to and no other god.
I have no problem relating to the etymological meaning of islam but I am not a follower of muslim doctrine.
Neither was Moses since the Qu'ran did not exist when he walked the earth so don't try to make him a muslim and speak on his behalf.
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The G_d of Moses had a very specific name according to MY faith and that is the G_d my people (Israel) are asked to submit to and no other god.
I have no problem relating to the etymological meaning of islam but I am not a follower of muslim doctrine.
Neither was Moses since the Qu'ran did not exist when he walked the earth so don't try to make him a muslim and speak on his behalf.
Exactly. I agree with you.
Islam is not a new religion.
it is rather an continuation of what was revealed to all the Great prophets of G_d.
It is not an attack on your religion, which in mine opinion is the same Religion. We have some issues, yes. But A jew or a Christian is my brother in faith.
For your information: Muslim means nothing else then one who submits to the will of G_d.
That you held Sabaat yesterday is because of your submission to the will of G_d.
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The G_d of Moses had a very specific name according to MY faith and that is the G_d my people (Israel) are asked to submit to and no other god.
I have no problem relating to the etymological meaning of islam but I am not a follower of muslim doctrine.
Neither was Moses since the Qu'ran did not exist when he walked the earth so don't try to make him a muslim and speak on his behalf.
For your information: Muslim means nothing else then one who submits to the will of G_d.
That you held Sabaat yesterday is because of your submission to the will of G_d.
A muslim (to me) is one that accepts the Qu'ran as the written word of Allah and that Muhammad was his prophet.
The basic tenet for a muslim is that there is no god but Allah...
لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا الله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ الله
As I understand it this is the foundation for Islam as a religion.
And by that religious definition I am NOT a muslim.
If you simply go by the etymological meaning of the word muslim: "to be whole" then it is of course something different and may be discussed from a different perspective.
Since you are trying to tie everything together by a certain lineage how do you feel about the Bahai faith?
They say that they are a continuation of the same lineage as well.
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The G_d of Moses had a very specific name according to MY faith and that is the G_d my people (Israel) are asked to submit to and no other god.
I have no problem relating to the etymological meaning of islam but I am not a follower of muslim doctrine.
Neither was Moses since the Qu'ran did not exist when he walked the earth so don't try to make him a muslim and speak on his behalf.
For your information: Muslim means nothing else then one who submits to the will of G_d.
That you held Sabaat yesterday is because of your submission to the will of G_d.
A muslim (to me) is one that accepts the Qu'ran as the written word of Allah and that Muhammad was his prophet.
The basic tenet for a muslim is that there is no god but Allah...
لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا الله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ الله
As I understand it this is the foundation for Islam as a religion.
And by that religious definition I am NOT a muslim.
If you simply go by the etymological meaning of the word muslim: "to be whole" then it is of course something different and may be discussed from a different perspective.
Since you are trying to tie everything together by a certain lineage how do you feel about the Bahai faith?
They say that they are a continuation of the same lineage as well.
Aladin could have talk about the "Primordial Tradition". From Adam (pbuh) to Muhammad (pbuh).
You guys should read the books written by René GUENON (rahimahullah) :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9_Gu%C3%A9non
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let me give you mine perspective.
Moshe can not give the anwer Judaism. He never heard of it in his lifetime.
The name Judaism, is not mentioned in the Torah, nor the Mishnah, nor the Talmud.
If it is mentioned please correct me.
He would probably say. My religion is Total submission to the will of (G_d) HaShem.
You can not disagree with that term.
Islam is the only religion that is named by G_d himself. It is mentioned in the Quran.
You know what it means?
Islam means Total submission to the will of God in arabic.
Your perspective is nothing new to me, many muslims share it with you.
Probably denotes speculation.
The truth is neither you nor I KNOW what Moses would answer.
And for you to say what I can or cannot disagree with is somewhat ignorant and assumptious.
The G_d of Moses had a very specific name according to MY faith and that is the G_d my people (Israel) are asked to submit to and no other god.
I have no problem relating to the etymological meaning of islam but I am not a follower of muslim doctrine.
Neither was Moses since the Qu'ran did not exist when he walked the earth so don't try to make him a muslim and speak on his behalf.
Who are the people of Israel nowadays ? The vast majority of the so called jews don't fall in that category, they are not descendants of the Prophet Israel (pbuh).
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A muslim (to me) is one that accepts the Qu'ran as the written word of Allah and that Muhammad was his prophet.
The basic tenet for a muslim is that there is no god but Allah...
لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا الله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ الله
As I understand it this is the foundation for Islam as a religion.
And by that religious definition I am NOT a muslim.
If you simply go by the etymological meaning of the word muslim: "to be whole" then it is of course something different and may be discussed from a different perspective.
Since you are trying to tie everything together by a certain lineage how do you feel about the Bahai faith?
They say that they are a continuation of the same lineage as well.
Allah is arabic word for G_d.
You don't say 2 a frenchman, you believe in Dieu and I believe in God.
Christian Arabs use the word Allah for G_d.
I don't try to tie anything together.
We believe in the G_d of Abraham (May G_d be pleased with him.)
When you speak about lineage of Abraham. We believe that G_d choose banu Israel (the children of Israel) out of all nations and tribes.
He send Prophet after Prophet, Messenger after Messenger.
But eventualy after the jewish establishment killed prophets and messengers of G_d,for example John, zacharia and try to kill the Messiah Jesus.
G_d changed the lineage of Abaraham to his other son Ismael. And send one final Prophet.
And I have proof that he did.
In Medina there were three Jewish tribes. The creme de la creme of the jewish establishment .
While the rest of the jews were scattered around the world.
These three tribes were together in Medina.
Next time you visit an jewish scholar, you ask him this question. What were those three jewish tribes doing in medina?
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Aladin:
What exactly are your trying to say with your last post?
YouKnowWhatItIzHomie :
Thank you for the René Guenon recommendation, never heard of him.
A red flag pops up when I see references to Madame Blavatsky and the theosophical society, but I will have a look.
Any book you recommend (in english)?
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Aladin:
What exactly are your trying to say with your last post?
Well I rather have you ask the question I posted in my last sentence to your religious scholar.
So that he may give you the answer from the jewish perspective.
But if you rather want our explanation of what the three jewish tribes were doing in Medina, I can give you that.
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Aladin:
What exactly are your trying to say with your last post?
YouKnowWhatItIzHomie :
Thank you for the René Guenon recommendation, never heard of him.
A red flag pops up when I see references to Madame Blavatsky and the theosophical society, but I will have a look.
Any book you recommend (in english)?
As it should
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Aladin:
Make your point already, this is getting tiresome.
Jack Trippa 3z company ho:
I take it you don't put your trust in Lucifer?
:)
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Aladin:
Make your point already, this is getting tiresome.
They were awaiting a Prophet. Dear nephew, Grandson of Isaak (May G_d be pleased with him)
That is why they were in Medina together.
The creme de la creme of the jewish Rabi's.
Unfortunately most of them (not all) could not stomach the fact, that this time around the Prophet came from the other lineage of Abaraham.
And I say this with sadness not with pride.
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As it should indeed and you bastardo's are REALLY putting me off pig.
I am HORRIFIED about the facts concerning the shit eaters.
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As it should indeed and you bastardo's are REALLY putting me off pig.
I am HORRIFIED about the facts concerning the shit eaters.
LOL 2 much meat is not good for you.
When you eat it, it is better to eat from a clean animal.
But hey, you should do what you think is right.
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Aladin:
What exactly are your trying to say with your last post?
YouKnowWhatItIzHomie :
Thank you for the René Guenon recommendation, never heard of him.
A red flag pops up when I see references to Madame Blavatsky and the theosophical society, but I will have a look.
Any book you recommend (in english)?
Don't worry about "theosophical references", René GUENON EXPOSED them for what they really are in :
Theosophy: History of a Pseudo-Religion (1921)
The Spiritist Fallacy (1923)
I think "The crisis of the modern world" (1927) is a good book to start with :
http://tohno-chan.com/ddl/src/Rene_Guenon_-_The_Crisis_of_the_Modern_World.p
"The reigns of quantity and the sign of times" (1945) can be dowloaded here :
http://www.academia.edu/882409/The_Reign_of_Quantity_and_Signs_of_the_Times_Rene_Guenon
Many of his books are available in english :
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=ntt_athr_dp_sr_1?ie=UTF8&field-author=Rene+Guenon&search-alias=books&text=Rene+Guenon&sort=relevancerank
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Don't worry about "theosophical references", René GUENON EXPOSED them for what they really are in :
I don't feel like "exposing" anyone.
This is Train of thought.
I gave our Nephew our point of view. He is still my brother and I thank him for reading and commenting on my comments.
Don't think your approach by attacking and exposing has anything to do with me.
Be kind to others like they are kind to you.
Don't attack others... it is not sunnah.
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Aladin:
Make your point already, this is getting tiresome.
They were awaiting a Prophet. Dear nephew, Grandson of Isaak (May G_d be pleased with him)
That is why they were in Medina together.
The creme de la creme of the jewish Rabi's.
Unfortunately most of them (not all) could not stomach the fact, that this time around the Prophet came from the other lineage of Abaraham.
And I say this with sadness not with pride.
Thank you for the elucidation.
Not sure if it is worth getting sad over.
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Don't worry about "theosophical references", René GUENON EXPOSED them for what they really are in :
I don't feel like "exposing" anyone.
This is Train of thought.
I gave our Nephew our point of view. He is still my brother and I thank him for reading and commenting on my comments.
Don't think your approach by attacking and exposing has anything to do with me.
Be kind to others like they are kind to you.
Don't attack others... it is not sunnah.
Qu'est ce que tu racontes ? Tu t'emballes...
You should read again my messagess on this topic to see that there is no attack lool. I just replied to Heinz regarding his concern about René GUENON on theosophical subject.
Keep cool homie
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Qu'est ce que tu racontes ? Tu t'emballes...
You should read again my messagess on this topic to see that there is no attack lool. I just replied to Heinz regarding his concern about René GUENON on theosophical subject.
Keep cool homie
Well I read it again after your recent comment. My apologies, I misunderstood.
I hope you forgive me, for my harsh words.
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Qu'est ce que tu racontes ? Tu t'emballes...
You should read again my messagess on this topic to see that there is no attack lool. I just replied to Heinz regarding his concern about René GUENON on theosophical subject.
Keep cool homie
Well I read it again after your recent comment. My apologies, I misunderstood.
I hope you forgive me, for my harsh words.
No problem akhi
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Ever hear of Rene Quinton?
He was also an interesting frenchman.
In a totally different field but nevertheless.
His magnum opus was "L'eau de mer milieu organique"
https://ia600402.us.archive.org/24/items/leaudemermilieuo00quin/leaudemermilieuo00quin.pdf
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People living in the real world do not fear pork.
It does need to be prepared properly as a very small amount of pigs do contain a parasite that if eaten raw can enter the body. It should be treated with the same caution as poultry.
As for religious reasons, if you base your diet and other significant lifestyle choices off of dated fictional interpretations about the origin of our world, I feel bad for you. I literally am embarrassed for you.
The old adage "you are what you eat" refers to eating well and living well and vice versa. The human body needs protein and fat, and pork provides both those in plenty. Responsible consumption of pork along with other animal based proteins will help you sustain health. The key word there is responsible, if you gorge yourself on anything you will be unhealthy, let's not single out one animal, that is silly.
I can't say I'm surprised people are opposed to pork for health and religious reasons, there are misguided people everywhere. Let's not demonize it though, then turn around and eat something from McDonalds or processed candy or alcohol and act like we are still doing ourselves a favor by cutting out pork.
Too Long Didn't Read: Don't be stupid.
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The McRib is back
I haven't been here in a while. Y'all still fearing dead pig meat?
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thats a pig polymer.
dont eat that shit.
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I wouldn't classify the Mcrib as pork.
Btw, apparently the Japanese have discovered how to "grow" steak from feces.
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(http://www.theglobaleducationproject.org/earth/images/final-images/life-expectancy-map.gif)
Life expectancy map, if you eat pork you live longer!
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(http://www.theglobaleducationproject.org/earth/images/final-images/life-expectancy-map.gif)
Americans missing out again. How can you call yourselve a first-world-country with such a low life expectancy. Muahahahahaaa! ;)
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(http://www.theglobaleducationproject.org/earth/images/final-images/life-expectancy-map.gif)
Life expectancy map, if you eat pork you live longer!
You should do what you think is best for you.
Those statistics is based on averages. I am an analist, so I know a few things about statistics, averages does not tell you the complete picture.
I think our grandparents had it much better then we now.
The food was healthier, the air was cleaner and their life quality was better espacially when your were older (in comparison to now.)
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(http://www.theglobaleducationproject.org/earth/images/final-images/life-expectancy-map.gif)
Life expectancy map, if you eat pork you live longer!
You should do what you think is best for you.
Those statistics is based on averages. I am an analist, so I know a few things about statistics, averages does not tell you the complete picture.
I think our grandparents had it much better then we now.
The food was healthier, the air was cleaner and their life quality was better espacially when your were older (in comparison to now.)
But they died from measly infections. ;)
Being born in the fifties in Germany must have been nice according to my parents. Time of the Wirtschaftswunder, living standards started improving and kept doing so for at least two decades. They even believed they could change society for the better! :laugh: Nowadays my father always says that he's glad he doesn't have to witness what future holds for us. Ha, the road to happiness is definitely not paved with critical thinking.
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real shit motherfuckers used to die from the sniffles.
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Moms told me to stop by the house tonight. She's frying some pork chops and puttin them shits in homemade gravy.
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Moms told me to stop by the house tonight. She's frying some pork chops and puttin them shits in homemade gravy.
I like that you acknowledge pork chops for what they are: shits.
Enjoy your shits and give my kind regards to your mother.
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pork chops are a great source of protein.
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(http://www.theglobaleducationproject.org/earth/images/final-images/life-expectancy-map.gif)
Life expectancy map, if you eat pork you live longer!
You should do what you think is best for you.
Those statistics is based on averages. I am an analist, so I know a few things about statistics, averages does not tell you the complete picture.
I think our grandparents had it much better then we now.
The food was healthier, the air was cleaner and their life quality was better espacially when your were older (in comparison to now.)
I think you mean analyst, not analist....shit sounds gross as hell lol.
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(http://www.theglobaleducationproject.org/earth/images/final-images/life-expectancy-map.gif)
Life expectancy map, if you eat pork you live longer!
You should do what you think is best for you.
Those statistics is based on averages. I am an analist, so I know a few things about statistics, averages does not tell you the complete picture.
I think our grandparents had it much better then we now.
The food was healthier, the air was cleaner and their life quality was better espacially when your were older (in comparison to now.)
I think you mean analyst, not analist....shit sounds gross as hell lol.
Hold up, you mean when these dudes wanted me to be their analist... :-X
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pork chops are a great source of protein.
Tofu's an even better source. It just tastes like sheet.
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I think you mean analyst, not analist....shit sounds gross as hell lol.
LOL You are right. ;D
I am a Euro remember, so sometimes I mix words. :-[
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I havent decided if I want regular bacon or canadian bacon for breakfast.
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I think you mean analyst, not analist....shit sounds gross as hell lol.
LOL You are right. ;D
I am a Euro remember, so sometimes I mix words. :-[
Just patronising you, consider it an honour...see I can speak Euro English so it's all gravy.
Your grasp of the language is far better than most ameros.
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(http://www.theglobaleducationproject.org/earth/images/final-images/life-expectancy-map.gif)
Life expectancy map, if you eat pork you live longer!
wrong...israel shows to be dark green, while america is light green. why u think that is?
studies have proven that people who dont consume pork live longer and have way less health issues as they age. should be common sense, but i guess if ur in denial ull do and say anything to support ur feelings. thankfully, i grew up not eating pork, so i have no addiction towards it and can see without a distorted perception just how disgusting that shit really is.
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I havent decided if I want regular bacon or canadian bacon for breakfast.
turkey bacon
lmao@analist
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they eat their own poop
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I havent decided if I want regular bacon or canadian bacon for breakfast.
turkey bacon
lmao@analist
I really like turkey bacon too, I'm not going against it but don't pretend it's better for you than real bacon.
Turkey bacon uses a shit ton more artificial chemicals in it to preserve it and has a lot more sodium content. Way unhealthier. You eat it because you are Jewish and that makes sense, but anyone who would switch to it from real bacon for health reasons is very poorly informed.
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turkey bacon is healthier than pork bacon, and thats a fact
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Processed foods are bad for you.
Turkey bacon is worse for you than real bacon for that reason.
Turkey bacon tastes good though.
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Processed foods are bad for you.
Turkey bacon is worse for you than real bacon for that reason.
Turkey bacon tastes good though.
read up on it...turkey bacon may have more calories, but pork bacon is definitely worse for u.
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i read turkey bacon being healthy is a myth
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Turkey bacon and smoked bacon are both processed food and are both no bueno. They both have nitries n shit that causes cancer.
Processed meat is usually red meat preserved via smoking, curing, or salting and it includes many favorite American foods in addition to bacon.
Many researchers have concluded that regular consumption of processed meats may lead to higher risk for prostate cancer and several other cancers. That’s why AICR advises people to avoid all forms of processed meat until we know more about what it is specifically about processed meat that increases cancer risk.
Now if you get uncured bacon, which is the shit I fuck with, its way healthier than turkey bacon and smoked bacon.
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Still not good for you though.
I find it funny that people that don't want to eat pork try to make something that tastes / looks like it.
The most ridiculous are those soy sausages and vegetarian "meats".
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only pussies feat the swine.
Had a white mate pop over one time when I was roasting a pigs head.........he walked in, caught a wiff the good stuff and was pretty much drooling until he opened the oven door.... he was like wtf is that? He almost shit his pants, Lol.
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And wtf to turkey bacon...... youse americans are funny like that. Saw the news a while back about that pink slime..... thats pretty gross.
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Not all pigs are dirty and disgusting, check these happy pigs from the Bahamas
(http://cdn.visualnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/swimming-pigs-bahamas-5.jpg)
http://www.visualnews.com/2013/12/03/happy-swimming-pigs-big-majors-cay-bahamas/
I didn't even know pigs could swim.
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Beef tastes better and it looks sexier.
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Beef tastes better and it looks sexier.
real spit tho
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nah, id fuck a pig before i fuck a cows. now thats real spit.
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It seems like this christian preacher is a Dubcc visitor.
He uses our arguments in his preaching: ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKWDYsP14E0