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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Free Suge Knight, Gucci Mane, & BShmurda Welcome Home Tray D on December 17, 2013, 11:25:20 AM
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Since it's a Black Guy rapping about a Dead White Guy who killed himself in a car crash does it stir up any negative/racist feelings?
Becuz it kinda seems that way to Me. I'd imagine white folks feel some kinda way about that. "A Black Guy talking about 1 of us killing themselves, don't they kill themselves everyday." White folks probably hate it.
Becuz tha song is crack and it should be #1 on countdowns everywhere and its not getting any play??
Why is it so contraversial? What's wrong with it, becuz its a good song?
*this is a totally different thread than the other 1*
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Why didn't you just post this in the other thread you made about this song?
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Why didn't you just post this in the other thread you made about this song?
Becuz I wanna talk about how do things such a these play off for a white person like you Okker. Becuz there's some (friendly spirited) bidding when it comes to Black People speaking of dead white people but it mostly doesn't have a punch to it.
And things like these do.
http://www.youtube.com/v/JjzvrBGbxeI
Do songs like these make u feel any kind-of way?
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White people usually don't have the same sensitivity towards other cultures speaking on "ours" in the way that blacks do.
One reason being, "white" is so vague. Most whites have a cultural identity that has to do with their nationality or heritage. Italians and English and Russians and their American descendants have wildly varying cultures, so to reference "white" doesn't have the same recognition for people in the way that it would if you specifically said something about Italian Americans, or Irish Americans.
Second, if you want to lump all whites together, then we make up the majority of America and have historically run shit from top to bottom; finance, government, commerce, everything. So to be "at the top of the food chain" so to speak creates an emotional insulation to criticism from outsiders, as they are often times bitter outsiders and underclass in many whites eyes.
Third, a level of white guilt does exist for many "white" people. Our nation, which I pointed out above has been a white dominated one has systematically crushed a lot of other cultures, especially the natives and blacks. Criticism, if constructed well, can provoke thought and reflection to an open minded white person who is aware of America's history. Not all whites share this outlook, but many do thus you have college kids listening to Da Lench Mob and other material that shows aggravation towards white people, without getting all butthurt.
Do you feel or understand what I'm saying? Because this isn't meant in any way to be a swipe at other races, I'm intending this to be cards laid on a table, and I hope you can appreciate that and learn something about "us".
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so instead of answering the question you just decided to Troll?
Y so sensitive?
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I don't need somebody who THINKS he can answer for all white people.
Somebody sane and mature speak on it. Not an attention whore
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I don't need the attention like you do. You decided to get upset and chimp out because you didn't like what you read.
Since articulating yourself well isn't a strength, I'll keep it simple. No. No the song did not stir any emotions.
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I honestly think it did. not just with you but with a lot of white people. otherwise you wouldn't have reacted the way you did #ignorant
it's written all over your face :P
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I think the song sucks and is disrespectful of a dead person. The racial implications never entered my mind. You really shouldn't focus on race so much.
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Paul Walker is some guy I know nothing about but that he starred in that one stupid movie I've seen once, years ago. Oh, and that he died recently. That doesn't really qualify as 'one of mine'.
http://www.youtube.com/v/g37HT4-EtzE
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White people usually don't have the same sensitivity towards other cultures speaking on "ours" in the way that blacks do.
One reason being, "white" is so vague. Most whites have a cultural identity that has to do with their nationality or heritage. Italians and English and Russians and their American descendants have wildly varying cultures, so to reference "white" doesn't have the same recognition for people in the way that it would if you specifically said something about Italian Americans, or Irish Americans.
Second, if you want to lump all whites together, then we make up the majority of America and have historically run shit from top to bottom; finance, government, commerce, everything. So to be "at the top of the food chain" so to speak creates an emotional insulation to criticism from outsiders, as they are often times bitter outsiders and underclass in many whites eyes.
Third, a level of white guilt does exist for many "white" people. Our nation, which I pointed out above has been a white dominated one has systematically crushed a lot of other cultures, especially the natives and blacks. Criticism, if constructed well, can provoke thought and reflection to an open minded white person who is aware of America's history. Not all whites share this outlook, but many do thus you have college kids listening to Da Lench Mob and other material that shows aggravation towards white people, without getting all butthurt.
Do you feel or understand what I'm saying? Because this isn't meant in any way to be a swipe at other races, I'm intending this to be cards laid on a table, and I hope you can appreciate that and learn something about "us".
+1, that's a well-written response, pretty much sums up what I think. when Paul Walker died, I wasn't like "damn another brother gone" and I didn't like Paul Walker for his skin color. I don't root for peeps because of their skin colors, I'm somewhat of a chauvinist when it comes to my country, my origins, my city, etc. (shamefully so though lol) but not for my ethnicity. caucasians as a whole, especially in America or Europe were never in recent times racially oppressed (some faced somewhat difficulties i.e. Italians, Irish, etc. but that was a long time ago) nor were they the minority (they'll soon be though when the numbers of non-white latinos surpasses that of white) which are the main factors responsible for creating strong bonds and solidarity, so that sense of community doesn't exist. the white communities in america do not revolve about the skin color but the culture, religion and origin i.e. Irish, Italian-Americans, Polish, Russians, Jews (if we're talking about ashkenazis jews, mostly white).
so personally I didn't care about the song and I have no problem listening to tweedy bird loc's My Dick is Prejudice even though I don't condone the rationale behind the song.
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White people usually don't have the same sensitivity towards other cultures speaking on "ours" in the way that blacks do.
One reason being, "white" is so vague. Most whites have a cultural identity that has to do with their nationality or heritage. Italians and English and Russians and their American descendants have wildly varying cultures, so to reference "white" doesn't have the same recognition for people in the way that it would if you specifically said something about Italian Americans, or Irish Americans.
Second, if you want to lump all whites together, then we make up the majority of America and have historically run shit from top to bottom; finance, government, commerce, everything. So to be "at the top of the food chain" so to speak creates an emotional insulation to criticism from outsiders, as they are often times bitter outsiders and underclass in many whites eyes.
Third, a level of white guilt does exist for many "white" people. Our nation, which I pointed out above has been a white dominated one has systematically crushed a lot of other cultures, especially the natives and blacks. Criticism, if constructed well, can provoke thought and reflection to an open minded white person who is aware of America's history. Not all whites share this outlook, but many do thus you have college kids listening to Da Lench Mob and other material that shows aggravation towards white people, without getting all butthurt.
Do you feel or understand what I'm saying? Because this isn't meant in any way to be a swipe at other races, I'm intending this to be cards laid on a table, and I hope you can appreciate that and learn something about "us".
+1, that's a well-written response, pretty much sums up what I think. when Paul Walker died, I wasn't like "damn another brother gone" and I didn't like Paul Walker for his skin color. I don't root for peeps because of their skin colors, I'm somewhat of a chauvinist when it comes to my country, my origins, my city, etc. (shamefully so though lol) but not for my ethnicity. caucasians as a whole, especially in America or Europe were never in recent times racially oppressed (some faced somewhat difficulties i.e. Italians, Irish, etc. but that was a long time ago) nor were they the minority (they'll soon be though when the numbers of non-white latinos surpasses that of white) which are the main factors responsible for creating strong bonds and solidarity, so that sense of community doesn't exist. the white communities in america do not revolve about the skin color but the culture, religion and origin i.e. Irish, Italian-Americans, Polish, Russians, Jews (if we're talking about ashkenazis jews, mostly white).
so personally I didn't care about the song and I have no problem listening to tweedy bird loc's My Dick is Prejudice even though I don't condone the rationale behind the song.
See Arthur. The only one being sensitive and attention seeking is you. Reread my statement, and really pay attention this time and try to remain objective. Okay champ?
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probably not.
unless they're on "Duck Dynasty"
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i believe it did strike a few nerves. otherwise I wouldn't have gotten the response I did *kanye shrug*
as the saying goes.... "never let em see u sweat"
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username is too long.
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avatar is too gay
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avatar is too gay
:laugh:
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avatar is too gay
:laugh:
lol....
u gotta admit that that shit is a lil homo.... u look like Krazy's twin brother out here.
fuck wuz u thinkin when u decided to go with that?..... nevermind, forget i asked
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avatar is too gay
:laugh:
lol....
u gotta admit that that shit is a lil homo.... u look like Krazy's twin brother out here.
fuck wuz u thinkin when u decided to go with that?..... nevermind, forget i asked
it looks a little creepy, but that's the point if you knew the reference.
at least it aint messing up the formatting on all the boards #realtalk #thinkofthechildren
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lol whatever
but i DO have to say that anybody who is offended by the lyrics or thinks it's disrespectful truly aren't listening to the lyrics of the song and I would even extend that thought to that they don't listen to lyrics period!
in no way shape or form is this a disrespect to Paul Walker, none!
and let's be real here, the only people who say it's offensive are white people [some who swear up & down that they're hip hop enthusiast who are deep into lyricism].
the irony is (with this song in particular) that they haven't actually listened to the lyrics nor do they ever actually truly listen to lyrics. they couldn't even really tell u what a true lyricist is.
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i think dude used that opportunity to make a name for himself by usin' a tragic situation like paul walker's. usually it's the talentless rappers that do that.
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http://youtu.be/jCoMEpCRf6E
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http://youtu.be/jCoMEpCRf6E
lol. "Paul Walker" is a hit tho!
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The song is disrespectful because he died recently, but that it is a black dude that made the song mean nothing to me..
the song sucks
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So NOBODY can actually tell me why this song sucks!?!
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So NOBODY can actually tell me why this song sucks!?!
the lyrics are trash and the beat is trash.
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LOL^
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So NOBODY can actually tell me why this song sucks!?!
the lyrics are trash and the beat is trash.
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So NOBODY can actually tell me why this song sucks!?!
the lyrics are trash and the beat is trash.
What do the Lyrics say then?
And you're kidding, that beat crank!
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So NOBODY can actually tell me why this song sucks!?!
the lyrics are trash and the beat is trash.
What do the Lyrics say then?
And you're kidding, that beat crank!
::)
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seriously, what did he say?
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seriously, what did he say?
nothin'. the title carried the whole song.
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seriously, what did he say?
nothin'. the title carried the whole song.
So u didn't actually listen to the song and cyphered out what he was saying, u just road on tha coattails of what the (perceived) negativity was.
You're basically an equivalent to a Minor who listens to nothing but beats and cadences. You don't actually listen to Lyrics or even care for them, u just like hot beats and catchy flows...
I got u. I see u. Rock on
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seriously, what did he say?
nothin'. the title carried the whole song.
So u didn't actually listen to the song and cyphered out what he was saying, u just road on tha coattails of what the (perceived) negativity was.
You're basically an equivalent to a Minor who listens to nothing but beats and cadences. You don't actually listen to Lyrics or even care for them, u just like hot beats and catchy flows...
I got u. I see u. Rock on
you literally just described yourself. LOL
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btw this is the type of shit I listen to so don't ever try to tell me about no damn lyrics nigga.
http://youtu.be/trM_VQeNUF0 8)
http://youtu.be/dbmbhtueH5c 8)
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This song uses very base frequencies, and the gentleman "rapping" is very low IQ. This appeals to people on that level.
Also, it seems that the OP did not get the answer he was looking for, ie he was race baiting and no one bit.
Blacks are more racist than whites, real talk.
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This song uses very base frequencies, and the gentleman "rapping" is very low IQ. This appeals to people on that level.
Also, it seems that the OP did not get the answer he was looking for, ie he was race baiting and no one bit.
Blacks are more racist than whites, real talk.
Then I would guess MOST people have a very low IQ *kanye shrug*. That goes for Princeton Graduates and Memphis High School dropouts...
And I did get tha answer I was lookin' 4. I got the "I'm White, He's Black, there's nothing you can say or do to hurt Me response".
[I.E.] I'm hurt but I'm better than u anyway so it doesn't matter. But let this have been on something else other than a Hip Hop Internet Forum, I would've let him have a piece of mind!
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I dont give a fuck about this song but i have been somewhat offended before with rappers straight up saying "fuck the white man" or "smoking white boys" or something like that, especially when you bought their album and then they say something like that.
Ice cubes "cave bitch" is rather offencive but probasbly more so that someone of any race could put out a song like that and it dosnet mateer but if a white man did you would never hear the end of it. probably be world wide outrage lol...
And Nas saying he dont need his white fans was kinda a slap in the face.
But yeah i think its more the fact that any race can say what they want to us where as we have to walk around on egg shells becuase every non white race is so sensative(seemingly).
Having said that, we joke around with the Asian guys down here and pay them out about stero types like eating rice, having small dicks, vietnamese accents(lol) and they seem to be able to have a laugh about it.
But to joke about a black guy or a Muslims religion oh no, do not want to go there! :laugh:
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lol. i'm so glad somebody kept it real.
i get tired of these fakes!
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fo shizzle 8) lol
OMG my typing was SO friccin bad in that post. Sorry about that. It was right after i got up. Shocking amount of typos...
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My ears are offended by the retarded, slow, child like lyrics and flow.
This is what America's youth listens to?
Speaks for itself.
I could give a shit that the song was about a white dude.
What offends me is the level of retardation
Don't try and frame a piece of shit as being a gold nugget.
It may work on those coked up or on some crazy walter white meth, but on someone even half sober it's just TRASH
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This song uses very base frequencies, and the gentleman "rapping" is very low IQ. This appeals to people on that level.
Also, it seems that the OP did not get the answer he was looking for, ie he was race baiting and no one bit.
Blacks are more racist than whites, real talk.
Then I would guess MOST people have a very low IQ *kanye shrug*. That goes for Princeton Graduates and Memphis High School dropouts...
And I did get tha answer I was lookin' 4. I got the "I'm White, He's Black, there's nothing you can say or do to hurt Me response".
[I.E.] I'm hurt but I'm better than u anyway so it doesn't matter. But let this have been on something else other than a Hip Hop Internet Forum, I would've let him have a piece of mind!
Nobody said anything remotely close to that, but clearly that's what you were hoping to hear someone say.
The responses you heard were "no, none of us give a shit and didn't take it as racist, but the song sucks ass".
I think on some level you were hoping for someone to cosign your OP so you feel better justified about your racist leanings.
Real talk.
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nah, u clearly got upset. that's why i made this thread. to piss people like you off... :-X
http://www.youtube.com/v/DGA6f246ukg
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nah, u clearly got upset. that's why i made this thread. to piss people like you off... :-X
http://www.youtube.com/v/DGA6f246ukg
No, as I said, you clearly made this thread wanting a certain response which no one gave you. Sorry no one made you feel better about your own racist proclivities.
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What's the point of making a thread just to get a "certain response"? You're paranoid
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What's the point of making a thread just to get a "certain response"? You're paranoid
You just said you made this thread to get angry responses. Now re-read this quote here. U runnin round in circles.
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the dumber the fan, the easier it is to sell them bullshit.
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the dumber the fan, the easier it is to sell them bullshit.
Haha yep, especially if you tell them it's the finest caviar when it's really the equivalent of steaming dog shit
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the dumber the fan, the easier it is to sell them bullshit.
lol
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the dumber the fan, the easier it is to sell them bullshit.
lol
it's the truth. when I was 14-15 I was bumpin' shit like: wu tang forever, makaveli, jewelz, reasonable doubt, it was written, boot camp click, etc. shit that was at least thought provokin'. the shit the niggas listen to today is pitiful. to paraphrase jay-z: I'm scared of our future generation.
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the dumber the fan, the easier it is to sell them bullshit.
lol
it's the truth. when I was 14-15 I was bumpin' shit like: wu tang forever, makaveli, jewelz, reasonable doubt, it was written, boot camp click, etc. shit that was at least thought provokin'. the shit the niggas listen to today is pitiful. to paraphrase jay-z: I'm scared of our future generation.
I feel ya.
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http://youtu.be/2lkHFWkM53s 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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the dumber the fan, the easier it is to sell them bullshit.
So becuz you LISTEN to artists with more mathematically formulated rhythmic poetic patterns and messages that AUTOMATICALLY makes you more intelligent? Where they do that at?
And If you actually listen to the lyrics (which you haven't) then you'd know where he's coming from and what he's talking about. But you're a dumbass and easily deceived. You're easily fooled by the smoke and mirrors *kanye shrug*
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The song is about committing Suicide.
But I guess people who are really into Song crafting would hear that
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the dumber the fan, the easier it is to sell them bullshit.
So becuz you LISTEN to artists with more mathematically formulated rhythmic poetic patterns and messages that AUTOMATICALLY makes you more intelligent? Where they do that at?
And If you actually listen to the lyrics (which you haven't) then you'd know where he's coming from and what he's talking about. But you're a dumbass and easily deceived. You're easily fooled by the smoke and mirrors *kanye shrug*
well I guess what I said applies to you then. you're the dumbass statistic that listens to that dumbed down monkey bullshit and try to act like it's some groundbreakin' shit for the culture. go play wit some anal beads you fuckin' fat wannabe convicted faggot !
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i know i know poor me good 4 u life is a bitch i die u multiply
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i know i know poor me good 4 u life is a bitch i die u multiply
real spill !
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never heard of that quote
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never heard of that quote
from me to you. 8)
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never heard of that quote
from me to you. 8)
no thx. i'll just stick to plain English or African American
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never heard of that quote
from me to you. 8)
no thx. i'll just stick to plain English or African American
You cant understand what he's saying cause you aren't used to hearing a dude with a dick in his mouth speak.
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never heard of that quote
from me to you. 8)
no thx. i'll just stick to plain English or African American
You cant understand what he's saying cause you aren't used to hearing a dude with a dick in his mouth speak.
says the faggot that was willin' to let two dudes fuck him so he could fuck a bitch.
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never heard of that quote
from me to you. 8)
no thx. i'll just stick to plain English or African American
You cant understand what he's saying cause you aren't used to hearing a dude with a dick in his mouth speak.
says the faggot that was willin' to let two dudes fuck him so he could fuck a bitch.
Hahahaha. How can you type so well one-handed? I guarantee you are jacking your shit to trap musik right meow.
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never heard of that quote
from me to you. 8)
no thx. i'll just stick to plain English or African American
You cant understand what he's saying cause you aren't used to hearing a dude with a dick in his mouth speak.
says the faggot that was willin' to let two dudes fuck him so he could fuck a bitch.
Hahahaha. How can you type so well one-handed? I guarantee you are jacking your shit to trap musik right meow.
you do remember when you posted that right ?
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never heard of that quote
from me to you. 8)
no thx. i'll just stick to plain English or African American
You cant understand what he's saying cause you aren't used to hearing a dude with a dick in his mouth speak.
lol hilarious
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this thread is hilarious.