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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: daytondanger on December 03, 2014, 12:22:59 AM

Title: Generosity
Post by: daytondanger on December 03, 2014, 12:22:59 AM
Generosity is its own form of power.
Title: Re: Generosity
Post by: Blunt Tyme Da Gawd on December 06, 2014, 10:34:07 AM
deep. if only society could come together with this single concept.
Title: Re: Generosity
Post by: daytondanger on December 07, 2014, 12:17:34 AM
It would indeed be a beautiful thing.
Generosity cannot be forced it has to be a natural action or else you simply get the hypocrisy prevalent in society today.
Title: Re: Generosity
Post by: J. B A N A N A S on December 08, 2014, 02:32:13 PM
A lot of people have figured this out, mostly the wealthy, and it's always been a way of maintaining wealth. This sounds counter intuitive, giving away money in order to preserve it, but the act of donating money and time puts you in the circles of people who can afford to do so, and when you are in the company of wealthy people you are more likely to develop meaningful relationships with them, friendly and working.
Title: Re: Generosity
Post by: Heinz on December 12, 2014, 08:34:45 PM
Don't you feel any shame in what you're doing?


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Title: Re: Generosity
Post by: daytondanger on December 13, 2014, 10:43:00 AM
Don't you feel any shame in what you're doing?


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WuTz GoOd NiGgA?
Title: Re: Generosity
Post by: Aladin on December 15, 2014, 11:35:29 AM
A lot of people have figured this out, mostly the wealthy, and it's always been a way of maintaining wealth. This sounds counter intuitive, giving away money in order to preserve it, but the act of donating money and time puts you in the circles of people who can afford to do so, and when you are in the company of wealthy people you are more likely to develop meaningful relationships with them, friendly and working.

Generosity is not about being wealthy or not.

If a child came to you and he shared with you half his candy bar. You would say ahh he gave me half of what he got.
But if your milionair friend knew you had a tough time and gave you 100 dollar (you can buy 80 candybars with it) You would think what a cheap-ass.

So it depends on the ability of the person to define if he is generous or not.

Now think about G_D the most High says he is the most Generous of all.  If we link that to the infinite ability of the Almighty.....we can not even  imagine how generous G_D is.
Title: Re: Generosity
Post by: Matty on December 15, 2014, 02:01:57 PM
problem with being 'generous' with other 'considerations', normally to be seen to be generous, like with a lot of rich people, is that it's not purifying in the sense that true generosity is. not that anyone much cares about that, it's still a net positive, but someone giving purely because they take joy in the happyness or others is a different thing. we could argue whether altruism actually exists, but you know when peeps are giving money then wanting 'visibility', connections of good press for it, it's obvious they want to get something back for it, however small or insignificant. most true acts of kindness go unseen, they don't require compensation.
Title: Re: Generosity
Post by: Aladin on December 15, 2014, 02:26:53 PM
problem with being 'generous' with other 'considerations', normally to be seen to be generous, like with a lot of rich people, is that it's not purifying in the sense that true generosity is. not that anyone much cares about that, it's still a net positive, but someone giving purely because they take joy in the happyness or others is a different thing. we could argue whether altruism actually exists, but you know when peeps are giving money then wanting 'visibility', connections of good press for it, it's obvious they want to get something back for it, however small or insignificant. most true acts of kindness go unseen, they don't require compensation.

Very true indeed in most cases.

Unless a person is "Public" generous, because he wants to set an example of good behavior. So that others may follow.

So in the end it is all about sincerity... and I believe that was also the point that Heinz made.
Title: Re: Generosity
Post by: daytondanger on December 17, 2014, 01:38:48 PM
Many years ago I went on a pilgrimage through Germany on foot to learn more about the man I carry the name of and the country he came from.
My days were long and my load heavy. I carried a 45 pound backpack and walked around 20 miles per day, I slept under a tarp and ate simple food.
One morning as I was exiting a small town (forgot the name) a car passed me and stopped a couple of hundred yards ahead.
A man and a young girl about 7 years old stood outside the car waiting for me, I stopped and we started talking.
He explained that his daughter had seen me walking and had said to her father:
-That man must walk very far with that big backpack, he must be very hungry.
So they went back home and made me some sandwiches and brought a carton of fruit juice which they handed me.
I was moved by their kindness and thanked them from the bottom of my heart.
The little girl then whispered something to her father in German to which he replied yes. She ran back into the car to get something.
Her father said that she had asked if she could give me her chocolate and went on to explain that once a week on Saturday she was allowed one small chocolate bar.
She came back and with unselfish pride handed me her treasured chocolate.
Even though I did not eat chocolate I chose to accept it because it meant a lot to her.
I was deeply moved by her true generosity offering me what was most dear to her and what she had looked forward to all week.
Luckily I had a present in return, an old wooden flute that meant a lot to me that I gave her and that she took a liking to and started playing immediately.
We ended up spending the day together and it is a memory I will cherish until I die.
I saved the chocolate wrapper and have it framed on my wall as a reminder.

Thank you for reading.
Title: Re: Generosity
Post by: Aladin on December 22, 2014, 05:17:42 AM

Thank you for reading.

Thank you for sharing!
Beautiful story.

When I find time then I will share mine personal story.
Title: Re: Generosity
Post by: coastlights on December 25, 2014, 07:24:48 PM
It would indeed be a beautiful thing.
Generosity cannot be forced it has to be a natural action or else you simply get the hypocrisy prevalent in society today.
oh cool
Title: Re: Generosity
Post by: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on December 27, 2014, 08:51:27 AM
Yes good story Heinz.

John Lear always talked about giving your best tomatoes to your neighbor (for those of us who actually garden).

Title: Re: Generosity
Post by: daytondanger on December 28, 2014, 10:16:09 AM
Since you mention Lear, here is a little gem for you by Otis Carr:

projectcamelot.org/dimensions_of_mystery_otis_carr.pdf

Read attentively.
Title: Re: Generosity
Post by: Desert Lord on February 09, 2015, 11:01:43 AM
problem with being 'generous' with other 'considerations', normally to be seen to be generous, like with a lot of rich people, is that it's not purifying in the sense that true generosity is. not that anyone much cares about that, it's still a net positive, but someone giving purely because they take joy in the happyness or others is a different thing. we could argue whether altruism actually exists, but you know when peeps are giving money then wanting 'visibility', connections of good press for it, it's obvious they want to get something back for it, however small or insignificant. most true acts of kindness go unseen, they don't require compensation.

true, but i think that's not the "generosity" that heinz meant...it's fake generousity
Title: Re: Generosity
Post by: Black Excellence on February 09, 2015, 03:48:18 PM
it's always good to donate and give to a good cause...as i've gotten older and grown i learned to do it more often.
Title: Re: Generosity
Post by: Ebenus Supremus on May 06, 2015, 05:02:35 AM
Generosity is its own form of power.

Depends...
In the positive it can be empowering...
But then some share negatives liberally with those they see as a means of exploitation in turn profiting from their negative generosity which is in effect disempowering....
What do you have to share?

Knowledge, both negative and positive, when shared with a keen insight and desire to instill truth is empowering...

Just as the same knowledge, if not appropriated through a trustworthy and reliable source can disempower a person through abuse of such knowledge in an effort to acquire material gains at the loss of another....

Some people only donate so they can write it off as a tax exemption....

Sure a lot of people donate out of a kindly and humble nature, wishing to shard their wealth with those less fortunate, but sometimes fortunes are acquired corruptly, and the beneficiary of the generosity inadvertantly gains from another's loss...

There s so much to be mindful of...
This of us in Australia inadvertantly gain from the disempowerment, disenfranchisement, genocide and illegal appropriations of land of the traditional caretakers, then the ignorant the if bitches about a petty little pension or government money being allocated toward indigenous education and cultural awareness...
And not once has an effort been made to compensate said victims (not calling all indigenous people victims, because in my experience I have never meg a more generous and powerful people, but my idea of power may differ from yours) for the losses which we continue to benefit from up until this very moment....

Like it was said earlier, a crummy pension or dole allowance or occasional grant does not compensate the billions of dollars that have been appropriated through corrupt and tyrannical measures, expressedly employed by the British and their descendants...

Same can be said for native Americans and also the toils of the African in america, who built that country through forced labor and were only compensated BH accepting their second class status in return for a freedom that until this day does not demonstrate an equality and justice that benefits all....

True generosity is given with no thought of recompence, maybe with a hope that those who receive will prosper, but certainly not in vain, hoping that the meer crust offered is sufficient to empower one whose obstacles are greater and oppressive elements are more disabling than the giver.....

I only have a little to give and so I am mindful that I should, just as the rich man acknowledges, that I should save for my own prosperity as I will only become one of the disenfranchised if I give my all, my worldly and material wealth in an effort to make the journey through life a little more comfortable for another....

I have donated a few hundred and tens when I was in a position to do so, but now my cist of living is greater having acquired more property than I had in the past ( I used to only own as much as I could carry, until I was 27)... Now I have to maintain property, as shabby as it is, rent, food electric, petrol, maintenance of my vehicle... All of which I could loose if I don't have anything saved for that rainy day when its possible I will loose my source of income.... I could consider my income a generosity, and I do, but if I had any rights to the land in which I reside and through exposure to the corrupted facets of society chose not to participate in the mindless ratrace we call life, I would not consider my income a generosity or privilidge, I would consider a right and an insult to what I am truly owed in the face of oppression, prejudice and adversity....

Generosity is good on the surface, but what are the true motives...
Title: Re: Generosity
Post by: J. B A N A N A S on May 06, 2015, 03:23:18 PM
NEW RULE: When donating to a charity or disaster relief, NEVER DONATE TO RED CROSS.