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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: WestSideDon on December 18, 2014, 09:17:26 AM
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So I already made a topic bout the leftover tracks for Snoops groundbreaking debut album, but while browsin through some old threads here I read some discussions bout certain songs on it, and "Next Episode" & "Doggystyle" beeing perfect ending songs for the album if they had made it on the final version, aswell as some talking bout certain songs that couldve been placed differently on the album by some users. So I though I'd make this thread. Here you can discuss which songs are leftovers, share some studio sessions from that time (if you got acess to any), and talk about songs you wouldve added, songs which you wouldve placed on a different position and also tracklists with the tracks you would have added...
To start it off, here are some songs that are leftovers/songs that were considered for the album:
-"Tha Next Episode" feat. Dr Dre
-"Gz Up Hoez Down"
-"Doggystyle" feat. George Clinton & Jewell
-"Every Single Day" feat. Kurupt & Nate Dogg
-"The Root Of All Evil Outro" feat. Teena Marie
Some more tracks:
-"Eat A Dicc" (later transformed into Serial Killa & Doggy Dogg World)
-"Fallin Asleep On Death Row" (Although its just a freestyle from that time I think)
-"Nigga Named Dave" (Not sure though)
-"Smoke On"
-"Playin 4 Keeps"
-"Itz On"
Feel free to discuss
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nobody forces you to join the discussion 8)
BTW:
Aren't you that guy obsessed with hating on 50 Cent lmao
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If only we could get a decent version of Next Episode we could finally make a full sounding album out of Doggystyle, I dont even care that the Dre tracks Wideawake put out didnt sound the best, I would still include em. Also Smoke On sounds like it would be a good closing track (from the clean Chronic cd) its just Snoop on it anyways 8)
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Poor Young Dave was a MWTC era song I believe
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nobody forces you to join the discussion 8)
BTW:
Aren't you that guy obsessed with hating on 50 Cent lmao
people these dayz confuse words with others just cause 50 sucks im hating lol
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If only we could get a decent version of Next Episode we could finally make a full sounding album out of Doggystyle, I dont even care that the Dre tracks Wideawake put out didnt sound the best, I would still include em. Also Smoke On sounds like it would be a good closing track (from the clean Chronic cd) its just Snoop on it anyways 8)
Yeah Next Episode CDQ would be fucking awesome, but chances are very low we're ever gonna get it...
As for the dre tracks by WideAwake: I wouldn't include all of em, songs like Eat A Dicc (just an early version of what later became 2 seperate songs) wouldn't really fit.
And that "Smoke On" track is a song that was about to be included on "The Chronic" I think, it was also on the "Chronic Re-Lit" as a bonus track from the chronic sessions...
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a member of this forum (bigjake), once claimed to have had a super rare copy of doggystyle that he bought off ebay which included tha next episode og in cdq. he said the actual cd was red instead of blue....he was obviously bullshittin (still duno if he was trollin or just got caught up in a fucked up lie lol), but peeps were sincerely houndin him about that for years.
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a member of this forum (bigjake), once claimed to have had a super rare copy of doggystyle that he bought off ebay which included tha next episode og in cdq. he said the actual cd was red instead of blue....he was obviously bullshittin (still duno if he was trollin or just got caught up in a fucked up lie lol), but peeps were sincerely houndin him about that for years.
ahh the good ole days...he said his computer was too shitty and that he didn't have a cd drive, but posted on this forum all the time. The last time I remember him talking about it, he would trade the cd for a 1964 chevy impala...no joke man
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a member of this forum (bigjake), once claimed to have had a super rare copy of doggystyle that he bought off ebay which included tha next episode og in cdq. he said the actual cd was red instead of blue....he was obviously bullshittin (still duno if he was trollin or just got caught up in a fucked up lie lol), but peeps were sincerely houndin him about that for years.
ahh the good ole days...he said his computer was too shitty and that he didn't have a cd drive, but posted on this forum all the time. The last time I remember him talking about it, he would trade the cd for a 1964 chevy impala...no joke man
lmao...glad some1 else remembers that
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It's hard to criticise the album because it's damn near perfect to listen to...but if I had to change anything, I would keep 'G'z Up' on there (of course, this was intended before Death Row were forced to remove it), and maybe take off 'Lodi Dodi' and put 'Smoke On' on the tracklist somewhere. I've never been a huge fan of that track, but I do still listen to it when I jam the album.
I never really cared too much for the other tracks - some of them are leftovers for the reason that they are clearly inferior and aren't proper, full songs. Even now listening to the track 'Doggystyle' I don't think it would have added to the album in any way, and (gasp) 'The Next Episode' isn't a favourite of mine either, but that maybe because we haven't heard it in better quality yet.
On a side note, the album is ripe for a reissue with a second disc of all the leftover material, but I doubt that will ever happen.
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Poor Young Dave was a MWTC era song I believe
Recorded on March 30, 1993 tho (if I remember correctly).
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Poor Young Dave was a MWTC era song I believe
Recorded on March 30, 1993 tho (if I remember correctly).
Hey Mietek, u got the recording dates for everything released at that time?
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a member of this forum (bigjake), once claimed to have had a super rare copy of doggystyle that he bought off ebay which included tha next episode og in cdq. he said the actual cd was red instead of blue....he was obviously bullshittin (still duno if he was trollin or just got caught up in a fucked up lie lol), but peeps were sincerely houndin him about that for years.
ahh the good ole days...he said his computer was too shitty and that he didn't have a cd drive, but posted on this forum all the time. The last time I remember him talking about it, he would trade the cd for a 1964 chevy impala...no joke man
lmao...glad some1 else remembers that
yeah I remember him...Big Jake Doggy Dogg...I have to admit I fell for it :laugh:
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take off 'Lodi Dodi'
blasphemy
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Poor Young Dave was a MWTC era song I believe
Recorded on March 30, 1993 tho (if I remember correctly).
Hey Mietek, u got the recording dates for everything released at that time?
Yeah that would be great 8)
So "Poor Young Dave" was actually intended for Doggystyle ?
PS:
Taking "Lodi Dodi" off the album ::) ::)
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yeah taking anything off of Doggystyle would be wrong...I would just add on these tracks to make the album a little longer
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a member of this forum (bigjake), once claimed to have had a super rare copy of doggystyle that he bought off ebay which included tha next episode og in cdq. he said the actual cd was red instead of blue....he was obviously bullshittin (still duno if he was trollin or just got caught up in a fucked up lie lol), but peeps were sincerely houndin him about that for years.
ahh the good ole days...he said his computer was too shitty and that he didn't have a cd drive, but posted on this forum all the time. The last time I remember him talking about it, he would trade the cd for a 1964 chevy impala...no joke man
Did the guy at least live in the US? Or was he an overseas wigger
lmao...glad some1 else remembers that
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a member of this forum (bigjake), once claimed to have had a super rare copy of doggystyle that he bought off ebay which included tha next episode og in cdq. he said the actual cd was red instead of blue....he was obviously bullshittin (still duno if he was trollin or just got caught up in a fucked up lie lol), but peeps were sincerely houndin him about that for years.
ahh the good ole days...he said his computer was too shitty and that he didn't have a cd drive, but posted on this forum all the time. The last time I remember him talking about it, he would trade the cd for a 1964 chevy impala...no joke man
Did the guy at least live in the US? Or was he an overseas wigger
lol Naah he was from Bakersfield .. good dude
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I think once you start making shit up like that, you are automatically out of the "good dude" category.
I remember back in the day on another forum, some guy was saying something similar about having had a special version of Bizzy Bone's Heaven'z Movie that had Confessions on it (back when the only rip available was a crap cassette quality one) and saying that there were some different markings (like a small black widow silhouette somewhere in the corner of one of the pages).
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I think once you start making shit up like that, you are automatically out of the "good dude" category.
I remember back in the day on another forum, some guy was saying something similar about having had a special version of Bizzy Bone's Heaven'z Movie that had Confessions on it (back when the only rip available was a crap cassette quality one) and saying that there were some different markings (like a small black widow silhouette somewhere in the corner of one of the pages).
Lol
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So anyone here knows of any more songs from the ds sessions or leaked songs from back then that we forgot ?
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Greg House the great!!!
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I think once you start making shit up like that, you are automatically out of the "good dude" category.
I remember back in the day on another forum, some guy was saying something similar about having had a special version of Bizzy Bone's Heaven'z Movie that had Confessions on it (back when the only rip available was a crap cassette quality one) and saying that there were some different markings (like a small black widow silhouette somewhere in the corner of one of the pages).
lmao .. and this was before trolling even existed
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I think once you start making shit up like that, you are automatically out of the "good dude" category.
I remember back in the day on another forum, some guy was saying something similar about having had a special version of Bizzy Bone's Heaven'z Movie that had Confessions on it (back when the only rip available was a crap cassette quality one) and saying that there were some different markings (like a small black widow silhouette somewhere in the corner of one of the pages).
lmao .. and this was before trolling even existed
i actually have a legit "defective" CD but it's the opposite, my Gang Related disc 2 is missing a song on it (the BGOTI track).
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2 more questions:
What do y'all think of "Every Single Day" beeing on the album ?
And do y'all know that unreleased track "Itz On" by Snoop & rage ?
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Every single day was originally recorded during the cronic sessions, and intended as the first Dogg Pound single (before snoops solo career was thought up)
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Ok you got a source for that ? Because I always hear that it's a Doggystyle song originally...
Although it could make sense since Daz produced it (I think) and not dre...
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Ok you got a source for that ? Because I always hear that it's a Doggystyle song originally...
Although it could make sense since Daz produced it (I think) and not dre...
There's an radio interview with Colby Colb from 93/94 where he talks about it. I couldn't find you a link but I think I've got the audio somewhere
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i remember that interview
funny how bootlegs were nation wide (cali to philly) without the help of the interwebz in '94
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i remember that interview
funny how bootlegs were nation wide (cali to philly) without the help of the interwebz in '94
Niggaz had their tape game on lock
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Would love to hear that 213 demo tape for example, theres only that snippet which is just a few seconds long...
And @Do Buy Albums:
You found that audio yet ?
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Would love to hear that 213 demo tape for example, theres only that snippet which is just a few seconds long...
And @Do Buy Albums:
You found that audio yet ?
Not at home. Might get time over next few days
The 213 demo tape is easy to find. Just not their early tracks
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Would love to hear that 213 demo tape for example, theres only that snippet which is just a few seconds long...
And @Do Buy Albums:
You found that audio yet ?
Not at home. Might get time over next few days
The 213 demo tape is easy to find. Just not their early tracks
Sorry my fault i confused the demo tape with "Long Beach Is A Muthafucka" (there is only a like 11 seconds longs snippet of that) and there other early songs.
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So to go off topic for a second:
Now that you mentioned it I can actually see "Every Single Day" fitting more with Dogg Food, it sounds more like a Kurupt Song featuring Snoop than the other way around. What y'all think of it beeing on Dogg Food ?
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So to go off topic for a second:
Now that you mentioned it I can actually see "Every Single Day" fitting more with Dogg Food, it sounds more like a Kurupt Song featuring Snoop than the other way around. What y'all think of it beeing on Dogg Food ?
yeah it fits well...Daz with the beat and all and Kurupt and Snoop rapping 8)
btw Dogg Food had a few dope tracks that were left off and put on other albums
Dont Stop w/Nas
Started
Got My Mind Made Up
Cant C Me
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Yeah i knew about Can't C Me & Got My Mind Made Up, wouldve been dope to see these songs on Dogg Food.
But lets get back to topic:
Are there anymore leftovers that should be added to the list ?
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Yeah i knew about Can't C Me & Got My Mind Made Up, wouldve been dope to see these songs on Dogg Food.
But lets get back to topic:
Are there anymore leftovers that should be added to the list ?
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a member of this forum (bigjake), once claimed to have had a super rare copy of doggystyle that he bought off ebay which included tha next episode og in cdq. he said the actual cd was red instead of blue....he was obviously bullshittin (still duno if he was trollin or just got caught up in a fucked up lie lol), but peeps were sincerely houndin him about that for years.
that was a long long time ago.
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@Do Buy Albums
You got the interview ready by now ? ;D
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@Do Buy Albums
You got the interview ready by now ? ;D
thanks for the reminder :D
http://www43.zippyshare.com/v/14538181/file.html
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@Do Buy Albums
You got the interview ready by now ? ;D
thanks for the reminder :D
http://www43.zippyshare.com/v/14538181/file.html
props 8)
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damn that interview/radio show is really long ;D 8)
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So is there anymore shit someone here is willing to throw in ? ;D
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Found another old dr song, it's "Playin 4 keeps" with the convicts...
Don't know if thats a song for ds could also be made during the chronic sessions but there have been talks about it beeing a ds song although theres no real proof for that.
Anyone here know about that song ?
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Found another old dr song, it's "Playin 4 keeps" with the convicts...
Don't know if thats a song for ds could also be made during the chronic sessions but there have been talks about it beeing a ds song although theres no real proof for that.
Anyone here know about that song ?
produced by Warren G, the Convicts were signed on Death Row, and Suge was trying to get The Geto Boys as well (that's why you can hear Bushwick Bill on the Chronic, and RBX on the Diary).
it's from the Chronic record sessions, classic song, Snoop dropped a great verse 8)
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Whoa never knew bout suge wanting to sign the geto boys....
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Why do you keep trying to do albums that I've already re-done? This album in particular I did a few years ago.
You're a poor man's version of me lol.
You're deliberately side-stepping me and you're asking all of the wrong people for info.
I got USB's bob, this lane has already been staked out. Thanks for boosting my profile
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Why do you keep trying to do albums that I've already re-done? This album in particular I did a few years ago.
You're a poor man's version of me lol.
You're deliberately side-stepping me and you're asking all of the wrong people for info.
I got USB's bob, this lane has already been staked out. Thanks for boosting my profile
::) ok
Btt:
That playin 4 keeps track is ill 8)
Has it ever leaked in decent quality ?
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Just pay homage is all I ask. You're obviously asking all of these questions for a reason and it's very clear who and where you got it from.
And don't think you're about to lie in front of these people (let alone to Me) like this is something that you came up with or have been doin for years
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what i find interseting bout doggystyle - beside it being the first rap album i ever listened to and memorised after going to the music store and listentin to it on the instore stereo like 100 times or something.....
is that snoop was quoted as sayin he has never actually listened to it from start to finish.....
odd.....
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what i find interseting bout doggystyle - beside it being the first rap album i ever listened to and memorised after going to the music store and listentin to it on the instore stereo like 100 times or something.....
is that snoop was quoted as sayin he has never actually listened to it from start to finish.....
odd.....
Yeah that was in an interview i remember that. Seems odd indeed, but you dont have to understand everything a musician does ;D
BTW:
http://thedeathrowrecords.blogspot.de/2014/04/daz-dillinger-retaliation-revenge-get.html
Anyone peeped this ? It says there is an unreleased doggystyle session beat on it...
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what i find interseting bout doggystyle - beside it being the first rap album i ever listened to and memorised after going to the music store and listentin to it on the instore stereo like 100 times or something.....
is that snoop was quoted as sayin he has never actually listened to it from start to finish.....
odd.....
Yeah that was in an interview i remember that. Seems odd indeed, but you dont have to understand everything a musician does ;D
BTW:
http://thedeathrowrecords.blogspot.de/2014/04/daz-dillinger-retaliation-revenge-get.html
Anyone peeped this ? It says there is an unreleased doggystyle session beat on it...
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Yeah I heard it, more of an up tempo type beat. Didn't seem to fit the Doggystyle theme at all. Of course who knows if this was meant for Doggystyle or not, it was just an instrumental, could've been done by anyone.
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Yeah I heard it, more of an up tempo type beat. Didn't seem to fit the Doggystyle theme at all. Of course who knows if this was meant for Doggystyle or not, it was just an instrumental, could've been done by anyone.
Seems to be done by Daz, would have loved to hear this beat used on a project since it sounded pretty dope 8)
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Always wanted to ask y'all a question:
What y'all think about "For All My Niggaz & Bitchez" beein on this album ?
I always thought while the song itself is dope as fuck it wouldve been better used by Daz & Kurupt on their album. It was common for dr albums to feature tracks where the main artists were just doing hook duties or not appearing at all and acting more as plattforms to present the other artists (like Stranded On Death Row & Lyrical Gangbang on The Chronic, The G-Funk Intro on Doggystyle), so what y'all think ? Wouldve also been cool to have a verse by Snoop on the G-Funk Intro besides Rages awesome part but just imagining ;D
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Always wanted to ask y'all a question:
What y'all think about "For All My Niggaz & Bitchez" beein on this album ?
I always thought while the song itself is dope as fuck it wouldve been better used by Daz & Kurupt on their album. It was common for dr albums to feature tracks where the main artists were just doing hook duties or not appearing at all and acting more as plattforms to present the other artists (like Stranded On Death Row & Lyrical Gangbang on The Chronic, The G-Funk Intro on Doggystyle), so what y'all think ? Wouldve also been cool to have a verse by Snoop on the G-Funk Intro besides Rages awesome part but just imagining ;D
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^are u really lookin for an answer on that?
the album is perfect as is