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Evidence that he was trolling us....
-The stupid accent, how could he have been serious using some East European accent over nearly all of his tracks
-His work before and after Relapse has been mostly good. Why a wack album suddenly in the midst of so much greatness, maybe he just wanted to "go down so he could get back up" like he suggests in "Guts Over Fear"
-He had achieved all his dreams and Eminem is fueled by people's criticism and hate, maybe he had to have people hating him again to fuel his fire (as he suggests in "Guts Over Fear")
-"Big Weenie" on Encore was clearly a case of Eminem trolling Ja Rule, his critics, and even his fans. So we can't put it past Em to troll.
Evidence that he was not trolling us...
-Dre wouldn't let his beats go to waste just so that Eminem could troll us
-Encore was also a dissapointment, and although MMLP2 was great, he has still been sketchy at times, so it seems it was just a low period in his career
-Maybe he was just getting older and had to find himself again
...Most likely he wasn't trolling us, but it is still worth discussing.
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"MMLP2 was great." Who's your crack dealer? I want the hook up.
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"MMLP2 was great." Who's your crack dealer? I want the hook up.
Decent album, but decent 'at best' imo
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"MMLP2 was great." Who's your crack dealer? I want the hook up.
Decent album, but decent 'at best' imo
Yes. Still stalking I see.
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Evidence that he was trolling us....
-The stupid accent, how could he have been serious using some East European accent over nearly all of his tracks
-His work before and after Relapse has been mostly good. Why a wack album suddenly in the midst of so much greatness, maybe he just wanted to "go down so he could get back up" like he suggests in "Guts Over Fear"
-He had achieved all his dreams and Eminem is fueled by people's criticism and hate, maybe he had to have people hating him again to fuel his fire (as he suggests in "Guts Over Fear")
-"Big Weenie" on Encore was clearly a case of Eminem trolling Ja Rule, his critics, and even his fans. So we can't put it past Em to troll.
Evidence that he was not trolling us...
-Dre wouldn't let his beats go to waste just so that Eminem could troll us
-Encore was also a dissapointment, and although MMLP2 was great, he has still been sketchy at times, so it seems it was just a low period in his career
-Maybe he was just getting older and had to find himself again
...Most likely he wasn't trolling us, but it is still worth discussing.
Well he's MK ultra/mind controlled so that was one of his alter personalities rapping, hence the accent. You'll notice this happens with some artists. Nicki Minaj has that British character, Mariah Carey has Mimi, Beyoncé had Sasha fierce....I could keep going. Those are programmed multiple personalities.
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"MMLP2 was great." Who's your crack dealer? I want the hook up.
Decent album, but decent 'at best' imo
Yes. Still stalking I see.
Wow I thought this was a forum Eric. Dafuq is up with euros lately
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"MMLP2 was great." Who's your crack dealer? I want the hook up.
Decent album, but decent 'at best' imo
Yes. Still stalking I see.
Wow I thought this was a forum Eric. Dafuq is up with euros lately
Not a Euro. LOL.
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Eminem trolled himself.
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infinite, you trolling us by existing?
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I been listening to Relapse lately & the album fire. I didn't like it as much when it first came out but it's really grown on me. It's better than Recovery & MMLP2.
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I been listening to Relapse lately & the album fire. I didn't like it as much when it first came out but it's really grown on me. It's better than Recovery & MMLP2.
The production is insane on this album... Eminem ruins a lot of the tracks with his voice though
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relapse was much better than recovery....i think relapse was just a concept album which didnt turn out as hoped. still not as awful as him crossing over to pop via recovery, tho.
"eric", what u delete ur account for?
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relapse was much better than recovery....i think relapse was just a concept album which didnt turn out as hoped. still not as awful as him crossing over to pop via recovery, tho.
"eric", what u delete ur account for?
Dude had a relapse
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relapse was much better than recovery....i think relapse was just a concept album which didnt turn out as hoped. still not as awful as him crossing over to pop via recovery, tho.
"eric", what u delete ur account for?
I think the funny thing with Relapse was that he was trying to be all controversial again, and just say outrageous shit, but what he didn't realize at the time was that the reason that style worked before was because there was always a hint of truth to his insanity back in the day... whether real or perceived... but when he was trying to rap on Relapse about stalking and raping women it just ended up sounding silly and ridiculous and nobody really cares what he says that much anymore like back in the day. Times have changed, and he reached what sociologist Malcolm Gladwell calls the tipping point where you have mainstream success and the resistance ends and people just accept what you do...
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relapse was much better than recovery....i think relapse was just a concept album which didnt turn out as hoped. still not as awful as him crossing over to pop via recovery, tho.
"eric", what u delete ur account for?
I think the funny thing with Relapse was that he was trying to be all controversial again, and just say outrageous shit, but what he didn't realize at the time was that the reason that style worked before was because there was always a hint of truth to his insanity back in the day... whether real or perceived... but when he was trying to rap on Relapse about stalking and raping women it just ended up sounding silly and ridiculous and nobody really cares what he says that much anymore like back in the day. Times have changed, and he reached what sociologist Malcolm Gladwell calls the tipping point where you have mainstream success and the resistance ends and people just accept what you do...
I think Em broke a golden rule, and went 'full retard'. That's pretty much it
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the production on Relapse puts it over Recovery and MMLP2 for me...
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idgaf about production, i listen to eminem for the lyrics. give a fuck what he spits over. relapse was trash because his voice was unbearable. made it almost impossible to listen to.
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idgaf about production, i listen to eminem for the lyrics. give a fuck what he spits over. relapse was trash because his voice was unbearable. made it almost impossible to listen to.
fair enough, but I'll take that over screaming over wack beats which he does nowadays
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idgaf about production, i listen to eminem for the lyrics. give a fuck what he spits over. relapse was trash because his voice was unbearable. made it almost impossible to listen to.
bingo
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At least on Relapse his verses had some sort of chronological order. Like throughout the verse it was all one "story"; if you want to call it that. Like nowadays each bar in one verse is like different sides of the galaxy lol. He just throws words together, tries to throw "clever" but absurdly corny word play.
"e fi fo fum I think I smell the scent of a placenta
I enter central park it's dark it's winter in December I see my target with my car and park it and approach a tender
Young girl by the name of Brenda and I pretend to befriend her
Sit down beside her like a spider hi there girl you mighta
Heard of me before see whore your the kinda girl that I'd
Assault and rape and figure why not try to make your pussy wida
Fuck you with an umbrella then open it up while the shit's inside ya
I'm the kind of guy that's mild but I mite flip and get a little bit wilder
Impregnate a lesbian girl now lets see ya have triplets and I'll
Disintegrate them babies as soon as that out her with formalda-
Hide and cyanide girl you can try and hide you can try to scream louder
No need for no gun powder that only takes all the fun outta
Murderin' I'd rather go vrim! vrim! and now you see just how the
Fuck I do just what I do when I cut right through your scalp, uh
Shit wait a minute I mean skull my knife seems dull
Pull another one out, Uh!"
-Wide Awake
Like that verse is bleh, but at least he flowed, didn't use that awful two second pause in the middle of words & he spent the entire verse about one thing. Now he says shit like "I'll rip the green off a frog & walk through the fog, holdin a log, lesbians like to jog" & you have no idea what he's talking about, it just all rhymes lol. That's what made him top 3 back in his prime. He would spit things you could chronologically follow & it flowed & it sounded awesome; not some jumbled together punchlines & call it a verse.
& yeah, the production was in another stratosphere.
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I don't know. I think Beautiful was one of his best post Em Show tracks, and if he raped just a bit more naturally, rather than force a melodic flow it may have fit well on any of his best albums.
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At least on Relapse his verses had some sort of chronological order. Like throughout the verse it was all one "story"; if you want to call it that. Like nowadays each bar in one verse is like different sides of the galaxy lol. He just throws words together, tries to throw "clever" but absurdly corny word play.
"e fi fo fum I think I smell the scent of a placenta
I enter central park it's dark it's winter in December I see my target with my car and park it and approach a tender
Young girl by the name of Brenda and I pretend to befriend her
Sit down beside her like a spider hi there girl you mighta
Heard of me before see whore your the kinda girl that I'd
Assault and rape and figure why not try to make your pussy wida
Fuck you with an umbrella then open it up while the shit's inside ya
I'm the kind of guy that's mild but I mite flip and get a little bit wilder
Impregnate a lesbian girl now lets see ya have triplets and I'll
Disintegrate them babies as soon as that out her with formalda-
Hide and cyanide girl you can try and hide you can try to scream louder
No need for no gun powder that only takes all the fun outta
Murderin' I'd rather go vrim! vrim! and now you see just how the
Fuck I do just what I do when I cut right through your scalp, uh
Shit wait a minute I mean skull my knife seems dull
Pull another one out, Uh!"
-Wide Awake
Like that verse is bleh, but at least he flowed, didn't use that awful two second pause in the middle of words & he spent the entire verse about one thing. Now he says shit like "I'll rip the green off a frog & walk through the fog, holdin a log, lesbians like to jog" & you have no idea what he's talking about, it just all rhymes lol. That's what made him top 3 back in his prime. He would spit things you could chronologically follow & it flowed & it sounded awesome; not some jumbled together punchlines & call it a verse.
& yeah, the production was in another stratosphere.
Yeah I think Em just dips into fragments from his rhyme notebook for verses these days. Nothing much to do with the song title/concept
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At least on Relapse his verses had some sort of chronological order. Like throughout the verse it was all one "story"; if you want to call it that. Like nowadays each bar in one verse is like different sides of the galaxy lol. He just throws words together, tries to throw "clever" but absurdly corny word play.
"e fi fo fum I think I smell the scent of a placenta
I enter central park it's dark it's winter in December I see my target with my car and park it and approach a tender
Young girl by the name of Brenda and I pretend to befriend her
Sit down beside her like a spider hi there girl you mighta
Heard of me before see whore your the kinda girl that I'd
Assault and rape and figure why not try to make your pussy wida
Fuck you with an umbrella then open it up while the shit's inside ya
I'm the kind of guy that's mild but I mite flip and get a little bit wilder
Impregnate a lesbian girl now lets see ya have triplets and I'll
Disintegrate them babies as soon as that out her with formalda-
Hide and cyanide girl you can try and hide you can try to scream louder
No need for no gun powder that only takes all the fun outta
Murderin' I'd rather go vrim! vrim! and now you see just how the
Fuck I do just what I do when I cut right through your scalp, uh
Shit wait a minute I mean skull my knife seems dull
Pull another one out, Uh!"
-Wide Awake
Like that verse is bleh, but at least he flowed, didn't use that awful two second pause in the middle of words & he spent the entire verse about one thing. Now he says shit like "I'll rip the green off a frog & walk through the fog, holdin a log, lesbians like to jog" & you have no idea what he's talking about, it just all rhymes lol. That's what made him top 3 back in his prime. He would spit things you could chronologically follow & it flowed & it sounded awesome; not some jumbled together punchlines & call it a verse.
& yeah, the production was in another stratosphere.
Yeah I think Em just dips into fragments from his rhyme notebook for verses these days. Nothing much to do with the song title/concept
guts over fear sounded pretty on point subject wise....just wasnt feelin the sappy vibe of the track or the pop production, but it could be much worse lyrically.
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Guts over fear is the only song of his I've actually liked since the Rick Rubin one
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Niggas are trippin' lol. Guts Over Fear is brutally bad.
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Niggas are trippin' lol. Guts Over Fear is brutally bad.
"Guts Over Fear" is damn near the magnum opus of the second half of Em's career. Everything is on point. The beat is mesmerizing, the lyrics are real as fuck, answering all of Em's critics which is what Em does best, and also leveling with the fans and explaining why he has had to make the moves that he has in his career. Then SIA is stellar over the hook. The video looks great as well...
...I think once again Em is ahead of the curve on that track, and fans like you are slow and haven't caught up yet. You need "Bars" and shit like that, you need a DJ Premier type of beat and a rapper saying some shit like "I play both sides like lesbians/throw you in a dike, bitch/ and ride over you with my bike" or something like that! HAHA Em's on some Beeth-oven type level and you just can't understand it, playa 8)
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rap god is eminem's 2nd half "magnum opus"
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rap god is eminem's 2nd half "magnum opus"
yeah.. it's either "Rap God" or "Guts Over Fear"... here's some other all-time great rappers and their Magnum Opus for perspective
Snoop "Gin and Juice"
Dre "Nuthin But A G Thang"
Warren G and Nate Dogg "Regulators"
2pac "Dear Mama"
Eminem "Lose Yourself"
Nas "One Mic" or "One Luv"
Xzibit "Papparazi"
Kurupt "New York, New York"
Bone "Crossroads"
Outkast "Ms. Jackson"
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for Pac i'd go with Smile
those 2 verses are incredibly...incredible. and Nas has to be NY State of Mind. He's even doing commercials with that beat now.
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Y'all niggas gotta stop lmao. Nothing Eminem has done recently is relatively close to his career before 2003. Just stop trolling.
His best verse recently is his last verse on "Bad Guy". As far as "realest" goes.
I can't believe you're cumming over a song where his flow is choppy as fuck with the worst hook I've ever heard Sia sing and the subject matter of "I'm recycling song topics because I have nothing left to say". But have the balls to mention all the greatest songs by the greatest artists ever in the same thread.
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for Pac i'd go with Smile
those 2 verses are incredibly...incredible. and Nas has to be NY State of Mind. He's even doing commercials with that beat now.
It's not your personal opinion... My favorite 2pac song is probably "Me and My Girlfriend" and fav Nas song is "Dance" but I'm not going to say that's his magnum opus, because that just happens to have sentimental meaning for me and I like it more than most people.
When you are thinking about what track is an artists--Magnum Opus--you have to think, "What song will this artist be remembered for 100 years from now, 500 years from now, 1,000 years from now...what is their Mona Lisa?" And clearly for Pac people it is not going to be "Smile". It will be "Dear Mama".
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Y'all niggas gotta stop lmao. Nothing Eminem has done recently is relatively close to his career before 2003. Just stop trolling.
I never said that, learn how to read. I said of the "SECOND HALF" of Eminem's career. Anything after 8 Mile or after 2003 is outside of Eminem's prime and clearly second rate. I called "Guts Over Fear" the magnum opus of the SECOND HALF OF HIS CAREER. Learn how to read.
I can't believe you're cumming over a song where his flow is choppy as fuck with the worst hook I've ever heard Sia sing and the subject matter of "I'm recycling song topics because I have nothing left to say". But have the balls to mention all the greatest songs by the greatest artists ever in the same thread.
So now your arrogant ass thinks you can tell Eminem how he is supposed to flow over a track? ...the subject matter is true, what else can he rap about that he hasn't rapped about before? It's true, after 8 Mile Em had already done all he could do in the hip-hop game. He's a success story now and can no longer draw from his anger and struggles like he could in the first half of his career. He had to change his style. But like he says, "It's better to make a Not Afraid 2 then another We Made You"! That line is perfect!!
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I don't know. I think Beautiful was one of his best post Em Show tracks, and if he raped just a bit more naturally, rather than force a melodic flow it may have fit well on any of his best albums.
Beautiful was a dope track produced by Jeff Bass...your right it would have fit better if it were not on Relapse
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I don't know. I think Beautiful was one of his best post Em Show tracks, and if he raped just a bit more naturally, rather than force a melodic flow it may have fit well on any of his best albums.
Beautiful was a dope track produced by Jeff Bass...your right it would have fit better if it were not on Relapse
That's because that was actually the last song Eminem ever did with the Bass Brothers. That song was the oldest song on Relapse. It was recorded before Eminem decided to start using an East European accent and start trolling us.
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rap god is eminem's 2nd half "magnum opus"
Kurupt "New York, New York"
Tha Dogg Pound Feat. Snoop Doggy Dogg**
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Y'all niggas gotta stop lmao. Nothing Eminem has done recently is relatively close to his career before 2003. Just stop trolling.
I never said that, learn how to read. I said of the "SECOND HALF" of Eminem's career. Anything after 8 Mile or after 2003 is outside of Eminem's prime and clearly second rate. I called "Guts Over Fear" the magnum opus of the SECOND HALF OF HIS CAREER. Learn how to read.
I can read just fine. You're calling "Guts Over Fear" the song we'll remember him by from pretty much Encore until now. That's the hardest troll post you've made in a while & you troll daily.
"Guts Over Fear" wasn't even the best song on that shitty ass Shady XV compilation.
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its hard to find a memorable track from Em lately...his best known is probably "Love The Way You Lie" :-[
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I can read just fine. You're calling "Guts Over Fear" the song we'll remember him by from pretty much Encore until now. That's the hardest troll post you've made in a while & you troll daily.
"Guts Over Fear" wasn't even the best song on that shitty ass Shady XV compilation.
It's certainly debatable, I mean possibly "Love the Way You Lie" (although I don't think you can consider "Love The Way You Lie" a magnum opus because Rihanna blew up that song more than Em did) or "Rap God" may end up being the song he's most remembered for in the second half of his career. But in case you haven't noticed, "Guts Over Fear" has blown up and for a compilation in this digital era, the Shady compilation is selling well and that is the video/single that has propelled it.
...and aren't you the same idiot that predicted MMLP2 would be wack and that the album would be a failure upon hearing "Bezerk"? Like I always say Chammy, you are no different then the other insecure white boys who called Eminem a one hit wonder/Vanilla Ice and so on when he came out with his supposedly "poppy" single "My Name Is".
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rap god is eminem's 2nd half "magnum opus"
Kurupt "New York, New York"
Tha Dogg Pound Feat. Snoop Doggy Dogg**
now you are splitting hairs and being pedantic... Imagine this statement 50 years from now. "Daz's greatest song was New York, New York". Makes no sense, Daz didn't produce it and he doesn't spit on the track.
Daz doesn't really have a magnum opus, to tell you the truth. I guess "What Would You Do" would be the closest thing to a magnum opus for Daz. And Dogg Pound doesn't really have a magnum opus as a group maybe "Niggaz and Bitches" or "What Would You Do"
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rap god is eminem's 2nd half "magnum opus"
Kurupt "New York, New York"
Tha Dogg Pound Feat. Snoop Doggy Dogg**
now you are splitting hairs and being pedantic... Imagine this statement 50 years from now. "Daz's greatest song was New York, New York". Makes no sense, Daz didn't produce it and he doesn't spit on the track.
Daz doesn't really have a magnum opus, to tell you the truth. I guess "What Would You Do" would be the closest thing to a magnum opus for Daz. And Dogg Pound doesn't really have a magnum opus as a group maybe "Niggaz and Bitches" or "What Would You Do"
Lets play house.
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I don't know. I think Beautiful was one of his best post Em Show tracks, and if he raped just a bit more naturally, rather than force a melodic flow it may have fit well on any of his best albums.
Beautiful was a dope track produced by Jeff Bass...your right it would have fit better if it were not on Relapse
That's because that was actually the last song Eminem ever did with the Bass Brothers. That song was the oldest song on Relapse. It was recorded before Eminem decided to start using an East European accent and start trolling us.
Thanks for the info. I didn't know that.
And as for 2nd half magnum opus, Love The Way You Lie will definitely be remembered the most, but it will be remembered as a duet.
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I can read just fine. You're calling "Guts Over Fear" the song we'll remember him by from pretty much Encore until now. That's the hardest troll post you've made in a while & you troll daily.
"Guts Over Fear" wasn't even the best song on that shitty ass Shady XV compilation.
It's certainly debatable, I mean possibly "Love the Way You Lie" (although I don't think you can consider "Love The Way You Lie" a magnum opus because Rihanna blew up that song more than Em did) or "Rap God" may end up being the song he's most remembered for in the second half of his career. But in case you haven't noticed, "Guts Over Fear" has blown up and for a compilation in this digital era, the Shady compilation is selling well and that is the video/single that has propelled it.
...and aren't you the same idiot that predicted MMLP2 would be wack and that the album would be a failure upon hearing "Bezerk"? Like I always say Chammy, you are no different then the other insecure white boys who called Eminem a one hit wonder/Vanilla Ice and so on when he came out with his supposedly "poppy" single "My Name Is".
You said this album would be bigger than the first or sell more or some idiotic thing. And I mean that's already 100% false. Then beyond that when his career is over and we look back we'll clearly see that MMLP was one trillion miles ahead of MMLP2 in every single facet.
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MMLP2 had very little replay value...even that "Rap God" track is overrated IMO, Em just spitting a whole lot of nothing...dude is all flow these days :(
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i liked mmlp2 when it came out, but i agree, the replay value is low......still a good album
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I didn't know that 'beautiful' was an older track when it was released. His flow sounded very much 2008/2009 without the accent which made it a highlight on a rather underwhelming album. To this day, I thought Em did his best work when writing with the Bass Brothers. Add in a few Dr tracks and that's what made his first few albums so special. Bass Brothers brought out something in him most other producers haven't been able to tap into (other than Dre), and I think it's a comfort thing. He really should try to link back up with them.