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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on January 05, 2015, 10:30:30 AM
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First off, it's not actually money, it's debt. Hence slavery.
Money itself is attracted to evil. Someone may pay someone else $25,000 to kill someone. Who will pay that person to not commit that crime? People don't just randomly come up to you and say "hey, here's 10 gz, don't commit any crimes today". But people get approached on that when there is a negative task to be carried out.
Therefore, money naturally gravitates toward evil. The richest people in the world are also the most cut throat.
I'll open the floor for debate.
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yup..good thread, nice points
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"But those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a snare and many foolish and harmful desires which plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs".
Money is not the root of all evil. The fetish built around it by people who value it more than anything else on earth and are willing to do wrong to attain it is what leads to "evil".
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"But those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a snare and many foolish and harmful desires which plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs".
Money is not the root of all evil. The fetish built around it by people who value it more than anything else on earth and are willing to do wrong to attain it is what leads to "evil".
The entire world is dependent on it, and as I said, it naturally attaches itself to evil. It is debt slavery for all, and negatively motivating for some.
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"But those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a snare and many foolish and harmful desires which plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs".
Money is not the root of all evil. The fetish built around it by people who value it more than anything else on earth and are willing to do wrong to attain it is what leads to "evil".
but thats the natural reaction of humans to money...so in essence, it is
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Money is not Evil... Like Guns dont kill ppl
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Money is not Evil... Like Guns dont kill ppl
Not the same. I agree guns don't kill people.
Money, if understood, is issued debt. When issued to you, you are obligated to pay it back plus interest which you can't pay for, so you must borrow more. You are a slave, and not metaphorically speaking. Understand what our NATIONAL DEFICIT is. It is the interest accrued on every dollar printed by the federal reserve which YOU are obligated to pay as a citizen of the the U.S. Only it is impossible to repayed due to interest!
This is the most blatant form of slavery and used throughout the world my friend.
Understand those federal reserve NOTES in you wallet. And remember that in the banking world, a NOTE is a loan.
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Money is not Evil... Like Guns dont kill ppl
Not the same. I agree guns don't kill people.
Money, if understood, is issued debt. When issued to you, you are obligated to pay it back plus interest which you can't pay for, so you must borrow more. You are a slave, and not metaphorically speaking. Understand what our NATIONAL DEFICIT is. It is the interest accrued on every dollar printed by the federal reserve which YOU are obligated to pay as a citizen of the the U.S. Only it is impossible to repayed due to interest!
This is the most blatant form of slavery and used throughout the world my friend.
Understand those federal reserve NOTES in you wallet. And remember that in the banking world, a NOTE is a loan.
like guns its who and how money is used. the bank system was not always like it is. evil ppl are evil and being around evil can rub off. money doesnt enslave ppl... ppl do
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good points on both sides
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Money is not Evil... Like Guns dont kill ppl
Not the same. I agree guns don't kill people.
Money, if understood, is issued debt. When issued to you, you are obligated to pay it back plus interest which you can't pay for, so you must borrow more. You are a slave, and not metaphorically speaking. Understand what our NATIONAL DEFICIT is. It is the interest accrued on every dollar printed by the federal reserve which YOU are obligated to pay as a citizen of the the U.S. Only it is impossible to repayed due to interest!
This is the most blatant form of slavery and used throughout the world my friend.
Understand those federal reserve NOTES in you wallet. And remember that in the banking world, a NOTE is a loan.
like guns its who and how money is used. the bank system was not always like it is. evil ppl are evil and being around evil can rub off. money doesnt enslave ppl... ppl do
I'm sorry, but it's not how it's used, it's the fact that it is used.
Prior to the federal reserve act in 1913, money was not issued as debt. The fed reserve is not a govt entity but a privately held bank owned by a few families (Rothschild, Rockefeller etc). Those families earn interest on EVERY dollar printed.
The treasury used to issue our money, since 1913 those families do.
You are perpetually in debt in this system. You can never repay it because it accrued interest. This is their scheme which is place in nearly every country in the world.
The biggest enemies of the US are those countries which do not have a central bank owned by those families...North Korea, Venezuela, Iran...used to be Libya before they sodomized kadafi with a knife and recorded it for the world to see and as a message not to oppose those families.
The all seeing eye on your federal reserve notes is the eye of Horus aka the eye of satan.
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The all seeing eye on your federal reserve notes is the eye of Horus aka the eye of satan.
the proof is in the pudding
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You make some interesting points J but what is your solution/alternative to the monetary slavery?
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You make some interesting points J but what is your solution/alternative to the monetary slavery?
Well, as I said, true money is not bad, it is a very viable medium for trade etc. But the current system is not money. Having said that...
1) forbid usury aka interest. Those referred to as "the money changers" in the bible were those who lent $ with interest. The Islamic faith also knows that usury is evil. It is enslavement and additionally used to foreclose and gather assets for more global ownership.
2) decentralize all banks. This is particularly true in somewhere like the US, where the land mass is so huge and diverse that a centralized "best fit" policy is not representative of local economies. Doesn't work.
The world would change over night.
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it's ignorance, to ourselves. everything else is an offshoot to that. buy yes money, or more specifically, what's percieved to have 'value' in the current system, is way off-base and has paved the ways for dark days ahead. nothing is changing that reality, but hopefully more people are inclined to come back to basics when it happens. our blind faith in science and technology is one of the main causes of this broader ignorance. the younger generation are truly screwed as they're raised into becoming technophiles in a culture of narcissism. the amount of damage technology is doing to people's minds is shocking, anyone who still has their subtle faculties intact will know what i mean.
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Thank you for the reply J, I agree with you.
I also agree with Matty's observations which are spot on.
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it's ignorance, to ourselves. everything else is an offshoot to that. buy yes money, or more specifically, what's percieved to have 'value' in the current system, is way off-base and has paved the ways for dark days ahead. nothing is changing that reality, but hopefully more people are inclined to come back to basics when it happens. our blind faith in science and technology is one of the main causes of this broader ignorance. the younger generation are truly screwed as they're raised into becoming technophiles in a culture of narcissism. the amount of damage technology is doing to people's minds is shocking, anyone who still has their subtle faculties intact will know what i mean.
Good contribution as always Matty.
You are correct about the impending technocratic era. Kurtzweil (yes the famous manufacturer of various musical equipment) is arguably the biggest proponent of this, it is very interesting to say the least to read what some of his thoughts are on the subject. He is very matter of fact about what will happen, I have a feeling he is an extremely CONNECTED individual.
Regarding the youth: many "parents" are guilty of not properly raising their children, and as a result we are now seeing a generation raised and dependent on tech, particularly cell phones which have significantly changed day to day life and interaction. They can only respond in very simple, often one sentence answers. Anything that is not instant is weird. Attention span is only a few seconds. I can't imagine when that generation spawns...society will truly be degraded.
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knowledge is power
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knowledge is power
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knowledge is power
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Ignorance is bliss.
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the truth hurts, no doubt about it
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the problem is power does not = freedom from suffering.
and knowledge can only point the way, true liberation is experiential.
that's why so many have it all backward.
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the problem is power does not = freedom from suffering.
and knowledge can only point the way, true liberation is experiential.
that's why so many have it all backward.
Exactly.
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Greetings all, happy new year to everyone, it's been quite a while since I posted anything on here as honestly it's fatiguing, mentally that is and particularly because it comes to a point where we are going round the same thing in a perpetual cycle.
We can't beat the fed, we can't beat the BIS, he owns the ability to print money out of thin air and charge it back to you at interest is the ruler of all regardless of how romantics like to perceive things. However we individually don't need to keep feeding the system and I too have been onconsciously doing this, so there I am sat in a bar, drinking branded cider, wearing $120 slave made trainers nike air max and so on, pulling out my $200 slave made phone to point out to the person I am talking to about some evil of this system by using the elite owned and controlled google!
I believe that the wheels are very much at full speed ahead for what is to come, namely the permanent transfer of this wealth to the far east and so, it's good for one's mental and physical well being to stop accepting on more debt, to move away from this materialistic bullshit. More importantly to move away from big business and support the local business even if this does cost more. What's more, this is the time on which it makes sense to learn how to eat healthily and cheaply.
The rockefellers, the rothschilds, and their ilk set the wheels into motion some 40-50 years ago. The money system will transition, of that I have no doubt, but what will replace it has no room in the hearts of those that reject serfdom.
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Greetings all, happy new year to everyone, it's been quite a while since I posted anything on here as honestly it's fatiguing, mentally that is and particularly because it comes to a point where we are going round the same thing in a perpetual cycle.
We can't beat the fed, we can't beat the BIS, he owns the ability to print money out of thin air and charge it back to you at interest is the ruler of all regardless of how romantics like to perceive things. However we individually don't need to keep feeding the system and I too have been onconsciously doing this, so there I am sat in a bar, drinking branded cider, wearing $120 slave made trainers nike air max and so on, pulling out my $200 slave made phone to point out to the person I am talking to about some evil of this system by using the elite owned and controlled google!
I believe that the wheels are very much at full speed ahead for what is to come, namely the permanent transfer of this wealth to the far east and so, it's good for one's mental and physical well being to stop accepting on more debt, to move away from this materialistic bullshit. More importantly to move away from big business and support the local business even if this does cost more. What's more, this is the time on which it makes sense to learn how to eat healthily and cheaply.
The rockefellers, the rothschilds, and their ilk set the wheels into motion some 40-50 years ago. The money system will transition, of that I have no doubt, but what will replace it has no room in the hearts of those that reject serfdom.
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Great post and glad to see you here Virtuoso. Hope all is well with you.
Fuck corporations (typing from my iPad)
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Hey Jrome thanks,
I have been considering my own point of view more recently and listening to other sourcees too and it really puts things into perspective over how much we are being played even when we think we are rebeling against the system.
Case in point....the hollywood made V For Vendetta inspires a clone like mentality of Guy Fawkes mask wearing individuals who are falling RIGHT into the trap, moreover failing to realise the irony of the mask when considering the fact the Guy Fawkes was the patsie, not the architect of the plot.
Sometimes it's good to be consciously aware of when one thinks they are separate from the sheep, only oblivious to the fact that they are just being led into another pen instead.
Sorry for going off topic but I think it's cental in so far as the brand of capitalism we are being presented with is concerned.
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Sometimes it's good to be consciously aware of when one thinks they are separate from the sheep, only oblivious to the fact that they are just being led into another pen instead.
Human beings have a flair for (unintentional) absurd comedy.
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I am not above acknowledging that I have been shepherded into another pen before, it happens, the mind gets bombarded with images, thoughts, ideas, presentations, it's hard not to be suckered in sometimes.
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I am not above acknowledging that I have been shepherded into another pen before, it happens, the mind gets bombarded with images, thoughts, ideas, presentations, it's hard not to be suckered in sometimes.
They are all gifts sent your way.
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I am not above acknowledging that I have been shepherded into another pen before, it happens, the mind gets bombarded with images, thoughts, ideas, presentations, it's hard not to be suckered in sometimes.
yup