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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: CORREA on March 02, 2015, 03:13:14 PM
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The rapper's boyfriend and Los Angeles Laker Nick Young comes to her defense.
The newest person to criticize Iggy Azalea is Sports Center anchor Robert Flores. During a recent "What Did We Learn" segment, the reporter called out Azalea's boyfriend and Los Angeles Lakers forward Nick Young, reports BroBible.
"Nick, while dolphins are trying to kill you, your girlfriend's trying to kill Hip Hop," Flores said. "Let's call it even, OK?"
Young, who told reporters earlier this month of his fear of the sea creature, responded on Twitter to confront Flores and defend his girlfriend.
"@RoFloESPN you job is to talk about sports not what we and my chick got going on," one of the posts reads.
Neither Azalea nor Flores have responded.
https://www.youtube.com/v/5Lr_4XR65dk
Young has also defended the Grand Hustle rapper against Snoop Dogg and Tyler, The Creator.
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Good for him.
"@RoFloESPN you job is to talk about sports not what we and my chick got going on" Way to not make yourself look like a complete idiot Nick.
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Dude was probably fed that line to even say.
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Why does Iggy catch so much slack but Drake doesn't? Drake's a way bigger phony than Iggy. At least Iggy lived in the US the last several years and came up in those rap scenes. I'm not a fan or her music, but Drake is a complete fraud. He's a rich jewish kid from Toronto's richest neighborhood. A child acting star who was nowhere near Toronto's gritty neighborhoods until after he hit it big rapping and then all the thugs around here jumped all over him trying to leach off his success.
Drake had to start his career as a rapper in the States where no one knew him from Degrassi because if he tried to release songs and do shows here first we would have laughed him off the stage. It'd be like in the US if Webster tried to start a gangsta rap career in the 90s.
To answer my original question; its because black hip hop fans in the states are racist and completely ignore frauds with in their own and overtly highlight outsiders. I haven't heard shit in the media as far an uproar go of the police officers who were just let off with no trial after being caught on tape shooting the white army very. If Michael Brown or Trayvon had a video like that to go with their deaths it'd be the Watts riots all over again.
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Why does Iggy catch so much slack but Drake doesn't? Drake's a way bigger phony than Iggy. At least Iggy lived in the US the last several years and came up in those rap scenes. I'm not a fan or her music, but Drake is a complete fraud. He's a rich jewish kid from Toronto's richest neighborhood. A child acting star who was nowhere near Toronto's gritty neighborhoods until after he hit it big rapping and then all the thugs around here jumped all over him trying to leach off his success.
Drake had to start his career as a rapper in the States where no one knew him from Degrassi because if he tried to release songs and do shows here first we would have laughed him off the stage. It'd be like in the US if Webster tried to start a gangsta rap career in the 90s.
To answer my original question; its because black hip hop fans in the states are racist and completely ignore frauds with in their own and overtly highlight outsiders. I haven't heard shit in the media as far an uproar go of the police officers who were just let off with no trial after being caught on tape shooting the white army very. If Michael Brown or Trayvon had a video like that to go with their deaths it'd be the Watts riots all over again.
yes you are right drake is one of the biggest fakes but 95% of his fans are females and stupid kids today know no better
Iggy Azalea is a total fake she thinks shes entitled to shit and has a shitty attitude
her music sounds fake as hell she doesn't really talk like that shes a living gimmick
she is on the shit list and time will only tell how long its going to last i really hope she doesn't last shes annoying and her music sucks
there was rumors of her making racist remarks who knows
to me shes to female version of em and only white girls will support her
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Why does Iggy catch so much slack but Drake doesn't? Drake's a way bigger phony than Iggy. At least Iggy lived in the US the last several years and came up in those rap scenes. I'm not a fan or her music, but Drake is a complete fraud. He's a rich jewish kid from Toronto's richest neighborhood. A child acting star who was nowhere near Toronto's gritty neighborhoods until after he hit it big rapping and then all the thugs around here jumped all over him trying to leach off his success.
Drake had to start his career as a rapper in the States where no one knew him from Degrassi because if he tried to release songs and do shows here first we would have laughed him off the stage. It'd be like in the US if Webster tried to start a gangsta rap career in the 90s.
To answer my original question; its because black hip hop fans in the states are racist and completely ignore frauds with in their own and overtly highlight outsiders. I haven't heard shit in the media as far an uproar go of the police officers who were just let off with no trial after being caught on tape shooting the white army very. If Michael Brown or Trayvon had a video like that to go with their deaths it'd be the Watts riots all over again.
Your obviously white and in total denial of the hard facts which are ever present in society and you would admit to in a heart beat if you had ever experienced persecution or prejudice to the degree which others ( and there are alot of others) experience on a day to day basis. Not to mention some of the social ills which are prevelant in not only non white communities but low income communities of all races. Your obviously privilidged if you can't for a second undersatand why iggy be coppin hate from the likes of Azalea Banks and others, who, which you would know if you knew your history, are sick of muthafuckas profitings from their culture, being racist and not puttin in they work for the same community the seek love anbd respect from. Can the other man ( and i mean other as in any other race besides white.) can he have anything for himself without whitey comin along and tryin to make it his own. Seriously, i cant speak for anyone else on this matter and more power to ti for puttin her on but i can step back from a stance where i miught admire iggy or even envy her for her success in a feild which i find to be totally inspiring and praiseworthy and think for just a minute, hang on, this is like snoop in imagine, where he say, " but you imagine to sell your 50, 000, 000 records worldwide, while fuckin off somebodies son." This must be one of them websites where the white kids are re enactin an old time minstrel with their fake ass fandom. If your a true supporter of hip hop and your white, take a step back and have some respect for the fellas that paved the way. NWA is straight outa compton, not IOWA..... sheesh. and even bringin the blessed soul of trayvon ( may he find more peace in heaven than he did here on earth with ignorant scum like you givin him a hard time ) into a debate about bloody iggy azalea for christs sake. wake up. I thought i was a fool on the net. You need to get your ass tapped real quick for even going there.
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Why does Iggy catch so much slack but Drake doesn't? Drake's a way bigger phony than Iggy. At least Iggy lived in the US the last several years and came up in those rap scenes. I'm not a fan or her music, but Drake is a complete fraud. He's a rich jewish kid from Toronto's richest neighborhood. A child acting star who was nowhere near Toronto's gritty neighborhoods until after he hit it big rapping and then all the thugs around here jumped all over him trying to leach off his success.
Drake had to start his career as a rapper in the States where no one knew him from Degrassi because if he tried to release songs and do shows here first we would have laughed him off the stage. It'd be like in the US if Webster tried to start a gangsta rap career in the 90s.
To answer my original question; its because black hip hop fans in the states are racist and completely ignore frauds with in their own and overtly highlight outsiders. I haven't heard shit in the media as far an uproar go of the police officers who were just let off with no trial after being caught on tape shooting the white army very. If Michael Brown or Trayvon had a video like that to go with their deaths it'd be the Watts riots all over again.
I feel you on most of that.
I don't think Drake gets a pass because black Hip Hop fans are racist though. Drake has a huge white fan base too. Funny you mentioned the media though because they control the way people think. If they throw that first paragraph you wrote on the news, and drown you with it day after day after day, then it clicks. If it's just some random people like you or me saying it online, people just ignore it.
Hip Hop used to be an art form, now it's just one big corporation. That's why these guys at the top of the mainstream can't even diss each other. The labels won't allow it. It hurts the brand of a guy like Drake if Good Music destroyed him a couple years back; people lose money if that happens. They encourage little subliminals to get fans riled up, but everyone just plays nice after that. The days of 50 Cent and Eminem ending careers are over. The fakes will be the fakes and real fans of the genre just have to ignore all the nonsense that plays out mainstream and find your underground alternative.
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The fakes will be the fakes and real fans of the genre just have to ignore all the nonsense that plays out mainstream and find your underground alternative.
In a way, that's the bottom line of life.
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The fakes will be the fakes and real fans of the genre just have to ignore all the nonsense that plays out mainstream and find your underground alternative.
In a way, that's the bottom line of life.
Absolutely. Everything mainstream is fake.
Then you either have the mental capacity of a child & buy into it or realize how fake it truly is.
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The fakes will be the fakes and real fans of the genre just have to ignore all the nonsense that plays out mainstream and find your underground alternative.
In a way, that's the bottom line of life.
Absolutely. Everything mainstream is fake.
Then you either have the mental capacity of a child & buy into it or realize how fake it truly is.
Damn. I went totally sideways on that one. better keep my replies to the point.
Not EVERYTHING mainsteam is fake. I just recently threw away all my gansta rap cos i been listenin to it for 20 years and thought its time to grow up and even though most of the rappers i listen to are only big names from the nineties and could in some context be considered mainstream/fake there are alot of mainstream rappers that are bringing light to issues that are being ignored by the general public. that's what i love most about gangsta rap, but im sick of hearin bout fuckin and poppin goose and gunnin someone down so i put it all away. To stay on point with this thread, i actaully feel a bit for nick and iggy. she don't really bitch about it but she is the minority in the industry and culture she chooses to associate herself with. her and nick obviously got love for each other and to be in a position where your constantly having to justify your relationship to others based purely on your differences ( which is the same thing they probably love about each other ) well, that must be a bitch.
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Iggy only has one fan of dubcc, that is Closet MAterial
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that reporter looks like some1 who would bump iggys music
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Why does Iggy catch so much slack but Drake doesn't? Drake's a way bigger phony than Iggy. At least Iggy lived in the US the last several years and came up in those rap scenes. I'm not a fan or her music, but Drake is a complete fraud. He's a rich jewish kid from Toronto's richest neighborhood. A child acting star who was nowhere near Toronto's gritty neighborhoods until after he hit it big rapping and then all the thugs around here jumped all over him trying to leach off his success.
Drake had to start his career as a rapper in the States where no one knew him from Degrassi because if he tried to release songs and do shows here first we would have laughed him off the stage. It'd be like in the US if Webster tried to start a gangsta rap career in the 90s.
To answer my original question; its because black hip hop fans in the states are racist and completely ignore frauds with in their own and overtly highlight outsiders. I haven't heard shit in the media as far an uproar go of the police officers who were just let off with no trial after being caught on tape shooting the white army very. If Michael Brown or Trayvon had a video like that to go with their deaths it'd be the Watts riots all over again.
Your obviously white and in total denial of the hard facts which are ever present in society and you would admit to in a heart beat if you had ever experienced persecution or prejudice to the degree which others ( and there are alot of others) experience on a day to day basis. Not to mention some of the social ills which are prevelant in not only non white communities but low income communities of all races. Your obviously privilidged if you can't for a second undersatand why iggy be coppin hate from the likes of Azalea Banks and others, who, which you would know if you knew your history, are sick of muthafuckas profitings from their culture, being racist and not puttin in they work for the same community the seek love anbd respect from. Can the other man ( and i mean other as in any other race besides white.) can he have anything for himself without whitey comin along and tryin to make it his own. Seriously, i cant speak for anyone else on this matter and more power to ti for puttin her on but i can step back from a stance where i miught admire iggy or even envy her for her success in a feild which i find to be totally inspiring and praiseworthy and think for just a minute, hang on, this is like snoop in imagine, where he say, " but you imagine to sell your 50, 000, 000 records worldwide, while fuckin off somebodies son." This must be one of them websites where the white kids are re enactin an old time minstrel with their fake ass fandom. If your a true supporter of hip hop and your white, take a step back and have some respect for the fellas that paved the way. NWA is straight outa compton, not IOWA..... sheesh. and even bringin the blessed soul of trayvon ( may he find more peace in heaven than he did here on earth with ignorant scum like you givin him a hard time ) into a debate about bloody iggy azalea for christs sake. wake up. I thought i was a fool on the net. You need to get your ass tapped real quick for even going there.
You're an idiot.
Firstly, I don't question ehy Iggy gets a hard time. I question why Drake doesn't.
And secondly, I didn't say one bad word about Trayvon.
And I'm not white. I'm Helenic. There's a difference. Most people just don't know it. During the entire time the white people were slave trading in Africa, the Helenic people were being conquered and enslaved by Ottoman muslims.
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Iggy is the worst thing happening to hip-hop culture at the moment and we all have T.I. to thank for that
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http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=300469.0
Just remember who called it first.
Do I think she's ruining Hip-Hop, or trying to kill it. Nope, I think she was a failed pop star who can't sing and wanted to be famous, and the powers that be put her with TI for credibility, gave her a Laker boyfriend and as long as she stuck out her ass and shock it, she'd be famous. But she ain't no different than Vanilla Ice, or any other pop rapper. And Drake ain't no different than MC Hammer or any other pop rapper from the past. To me, Drake is the Fresh Prince on auto tunes.
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http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=300469.0
Just remember who called it first.
Do I think she's ruining Hip-Hop, or trying to kill it. Nope, I think she was a failed pop star who can't sing and wanted to be famous, and the powers that be put her with TI for credibility, gave her a Laker boyfriend and as long as she stuck out her ass and shock it, she'd be famous. But she ain't no different than Vanilla Ice, or any other pop rapper. And Drake ain't no different than MC Hammer or any other pop rapper from the past. To me, Drake is the Fresh Prince on auto tunes.
dont get too ahead of yourself....there was talks of this bitch back in 2011, when she dropped that "pussy" track and every1 was talkin bout it. i think i mighta been the one who made the thread too.
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Iggy only has one fan of dubcc, that is Closet MAterial
why is my dick in your mouth ?
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@shallow
tried quotin ya but your obvisiousloy the don, big fish in a small pond.
helenic huh? im spanish and ya dont hear me bitchin bout the berbers bringin the beauty of islam to spain back in the 1400's. at the end of the day, if you got iranians calling themselves aryan ( which is the whole reason they changed the name from persia to iran ) then i think its safe to say that helenic is just another term for pale.
you made a narrow minded statement bout a broad and diverse range of people and im the idiot?
Quote" all black people in the states are racists?" end quote.....
that's bullshit for real.
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@shallow
tried quotin ya but your obvisiousloy the don, big fish in a small pond.
helenic huh? im spanish and ya dont hear me bitchin bout the berbers bringin the beauty of islam to spain back in the 1400's. at the end of the day, if you got iranians calling themselves aryan ( which is the whole reason they changed the name from persia to iran ) then i think its safe to say that helenic is just another term for pale.
you made a narrow minded statement bout a broad and diverse range of people and im the idiot?
Quote" all black people in the states are racists?" end quote.....
that's bullshit for real.
The point is I'm not Germanic in anyway, where as your spanish ancestors, whether mixed with berbers later on or not, were Germanic.
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http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=300469.0
Just remember who called it first.
Do I think she's ruining Hip-Hop, or trying to kill it. Nope, I think she was a failed pop star who can't sing and wanted to be famous, and the powers that be put her with TI for credibility, gave her a Laker boyfriend and as long as she stuck out her ass and shock it, she'd be famous. But she ain't no different than Vanilla Ice, or any other pop rapper. And Drake ain't no different than MC Hammer or any other pop rapper from the past. To me, Drake is the Fresh Prince on auto tunes.
I knew of her before, but I didn't take her seriously until I saw she was with TI. Then I was like, okay, they are going to push her hard. But just don't remember anyone posting about her before I did.
dont get too ahead of yourself....there was talks of this bitch back in 2011, when she dropped that "pussy" track and every1 was talkin bout it. i think i mighta been the one who made the thread too.
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http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=300469.0
Just remember who called it first.
Do I think she's ruining Hip-Hop, or trying to kill it. Nope, I think she was a failed pop star who can't sing and wanted to be famous, and the powers that be put her with TI for credibility, gave her a Laker boyfriend and as long as she stuck out her ass and shock it, she'd be famous. But she ain't no different than Vanilla Ice, or any other pop rapper. And Drake ain't no different than MC Hammer or any other pop rapper from the past. To me, Drake is the Fresh Prince on auto tunes.
I knew of her before, but I didn't take her seriously until I saw she was with TI. Then I was like, okay, they are going to push her hard. But just don't remember anyone posting about her before I did.
summer of 2013 she was already bein pushed by TI for over a year....peeps posted about here way before http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=280754.0
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http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=300469.0
Just remember who called it first.
Do I think she's ruining Hip-Hop, or trying to kill it. Nope, I think she was a failed pop star who can't sing and wanted to be famous, and the powers that be put her with TI for credibility, gave her a Laker boyfriend and as long as she stuck out her ass and shock it, she'd be famous. But she ain't no different than Vanilla Ice, or any other pop rapper. And Drake ain't no different than MC Hammer or any other pop rapper from the past. To me, Drake is the Fresh Prince on auto tunes.
I knew of her before, but I didn't take her seriously until I saw she was with TI. Then I was like, okay, they are going to push her hard. But just don't remember anyone posting about her before I did.
summer of 2013 she was already bein pushed by TI for over a year....peeps posted about here way before http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=280754.0
Guess I miss that. But it seems like people were not seeing exactly how she'd do. As I said on my thing, I didn't/don't think she was/is that great. But she fits the mold of who record labels push. It was obvious she was the next "IT" girl, I was just calling it and no one else seemed to. She just sucked the right dick and they made her a star. She ain't the first. She wouldn't be the last. That's my main point. Hip-Hop always seems to recover, from Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer, to Puff Daddy, to other wack emcees. At the end of the day, these people fade and talent rises. Hell, Iggy was happy she didn't win a Grammy. She said she has too many haters. She already is breaking. Rappers usually THRIVE off haters. Haters drive most rappers. Iggy doesn't have that in her DNA. She's too nice. She's a really nice girl who wanted to be a pop star and couldn't cut it. she wasn't made for Hip-Hop at all. We'll see if she can grow. But she don't bother me at all.
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Iggy only has one fan of dubcc, that is Closet MAterial
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@shallow
tried quotin ya but your obvisiousloy the don, big fish in a small pond.
helenic huh? im spanish and ya dont hear me bitchin bout the berbers bringin the beauty of islam to spain back in the 1400's. at the end of the day, if you got iranians calling themselves aryan ( which is the whole reason they changed the name from persia to iran ) then i think its safe to say that helenic is just another term for pale.
you made a narrow minded statement bout a broad and diverse range of people and im the idiot?
Quote" all black people in the states are racists?" end quote.....
that's bullshit for real.
The point is I'm not Germanic in anyway, where as your spanish ancestors, whether mixed with berbers later on or not, were Germanic.
AND THE KNEE BONeZ CONNECTED TO THE DICK BONE
geia sas
i think that's how you helenic - greeks say it.
seriously
how far back ya wanna go?
which cave you comin from?
or we could take it back to the beginning..... we all got the out of africa gene..... way before Zeus was telling you the ins and outs of the universe your people, my people, all people were clubbin each other to death for the same pathetic reason we havin a totally off topic debate.
The actual point of this - meaning our little back and forth - is i didn't agree with what you said about black hip hop fans being racists. i put rhymes up on myspace and an american guy and yes he was black and yes he was a hip hop head asked me if i wanted to collaborate. if your right in your assumption then that never would of happend. he would of been like, who is this white bitch and her wack shit, just like im thinkin who the fuck are you. ive worked for greeks and even though i had a bad experience with one of em i dont go round preachin bout "all greeks" are this or that. and even though i know the greek community is very tight knit i know one man dont represent a whole race. thats my beef with you.
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lol @ "helenic" aka hel(l)enic aka greek...greek people are white, they europeans! some people take it way too far smh
spanish people are white too unless you mean HIS-spanic, which is another thing the two words get just get confused very often
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Iggy only has one fan of dubcc, that is Closet MAterial
why is my dick in your mouth ?
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lol @ "helenic" aka hel(l)enic aka greek...greek people are white, they europeans! some people take it way too far smh
spanish people are white too unless you mean HIS-spanic, which is another thing the two words get just get confused very often
True That!
the only reason i call myself spanish is cos my cousin told me i wasn't a member of the family and that i was spanish and my nan told me my mum had an affair with a spanish man.
i could be the postmans daughter for all i know. and he was probably white too.....
fuck. i think about the brutality the spanish afflicted the mexicans with and i know i got nothin to brag about......
and no im not HIS-spanic..... i do know the difference.
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lol @ "helenic" aka hel(l)enic aka greek...greek people are white, they europeans! some people take it way too far smh
spanish people are white too unless you mean HIS-spanic, which is another thing the two words get just get confused very often
The only one laughing out loud is Babylon, for fooling you. Most "Greeks" are fooled as well. But it's bullshit. The word Greek isn't any different than the word Nigger. A word that had no business being used to describe a people used by those that conquered those people as a way to denigrate them. There is no word in the language that even sounds like Greek that anyone would use to describe themselves within that people. It only started being widespread when Roman Soldiers used it towards my people aftter they round them up and enslaved them.
Its just a sorry attempt by barberians that overtook us and try and give some meaning to their own lack of ancient history. You take me, an Ethiopian, and Egyptian, a Persian, and an Arab and take our DNA samples, and compare them to to a Spaniard, German, or anyone with roots from Western Europe and you'll see the difference.
My tribe isn't African, or Arab, or Persian, but it is unique to its own. Modern Europe just tries to lay connection to it because they want to seem like they had a hand in shaping the ancient world.
The Ancient Hellenes and Ancient Egyptians worked together and progressed together. Plato and his peers never had bad words for those south of the sea. Both sides were welcome in each other's homes. Even when Alexander took Egypt and left it to Ptolemy, it wasn't out of malice. Egypt was in shambles at the time, and the Ptolemic period helped maintain order and preserve a great civilization. It wasn't until those butchers from Rome got involved that things started to crumble there. Then once Rome fell to the Savages from the North West, all was lost.
Funny how a people that were trying to measure the circumference of the Earth in 400 BC are supposed to be the ancestors of people that thought the Earth was flat in 1400 AD.
Even Jesus knew unique aspects of the Hellenes. he named Simon, Peter. And thus Peter laid the way for Luke, an Ancient Hellene, not a Jew, to help pave the groundwork for the Church.
The point is my Ancestors can be found all over the Middle East and North Africa; you can't say that about any other European people. Thus, we are different.
And anyone that wants to mention what the Spanish did to the Hispanic or what the rest of Western Europe did to the Africans; you can go and read up what "Greece" was up to during that whole mess; I'll tell you; from 1453 nearly half a century before the savages even discovered Africa to 1821, a full generation after the Atlantic Slave Trade was abolished, and just a few decades before all slaves were freed, "Greece" was conquered and enslaved by the Ottoman Empire; Turkish Muslims that had us under their control for nearly 400. None of my ancestors could even own land, much less trade slaves.
And where was rest of "my people" as you claim, as they were fattening their bellies selling slaves and destroying South American Empires? Why wouldn't they come to our aid and fend off the Muslims? Because they too saw us as different than them, just as we see them as different than us.
Just like Greece is the odd man out in the current state of Euro politics, it was the odd man out always.
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something about the fact that an Iggy Azalea thread sparked such deep conversation in here that I'm reading just doesn't sit well with me
fuck rap
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@shallow
tried quotin ya but your obvisiousloy the don, big fish in a small pond.
helenic huh? im spanish and ya dont hear me bitchin bout the berbers bringin the beauty of islam to spain back in the 1400's. at the end of the day, if you got iranians calling themselves aryan ( which is the whole reason they changed the name from persia to iran ) then i think its safe to say that helenic is just another term for pale.
you made a narrow minded statement bout a broad and diverse range of people and im the idiot?
Quote" all black people in the states are racists?" end quote.....
that's bullshit for real.
The point is I'm not Germanic in anyway, where as your spanish ancestors, whether mixed with berbers later on or not, were Germanic.
AND THE KNEE BONeZ CONNECTED TO THE DICK BONE
geia sas
i think that's how you helenic - greeks say it.
seriously
how far back ya wanna go?
which cave you comin from?
or we could take it back to the beginning..... we all got the out of africa gene..... way before Zeus was telling you the ins and outs of the universe your people, my people, all people were clubbin each other to death for the same pathetic reason we havin a totally off topic debate.
The actual point of this - meaning our little back and forth - is i didn't agree with what you said about black hip hop fans being racists. i put rhymes up on myspace and an american guy and yes he was black and yes he was a hip hop head asked me if i wanted to collaborate. if your right in your assumption then that never would of happend. he would of been like, who is this white bitch and her wack shit, just like im thinkin who the fuck are you. ive worked for greeks and even though i had a bad experience with one of em i dont go round preachin bout "all greeks" are this or that. and even though i know the greek community is very tight knit i know one man dont represent a whole race. thats my beef with you.
You're arguing with me like I'm defending Iggy, or that I said all black american hip hop fans are racist towards all whites. Of which I said neither. Iggy is shit and not all black hip hop heads are racist towards her, TI being one.
The point I initially made is that the majority black hip hop fans in the US are racist towards white frauds, and accepting of black frauds. And I used Drake as an example. A great white rapper who cares about the music and respects it and doers it well, like Evidence of Dilated or Eminem will be accepted by black hip hop fans in the US, but that was never a point I was trying to dismiss.
You may be a great rapper with a great regard and love for the music and because of that are accepted. But if you wrote two terrible rap songs that are disgraceful to every thing hip hop is about and released one yourself and gave the other to a black rapper and both of you became huge in the pop masses from those songs, you would be labeled a fraud while the black guy would get a pass.
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@shallow
tried quotin ya but your obvisiousloy the don, big fish in a small pond.
helenic huh? im spanish and ya dont hear me bitchin bout the berbers bringin the beauty of islam to spain back in the 1400's. at the end of the day, if you got iranians calling themselves aryan ( which is the whole reason they changed the name from persia to iran ) then i think its safe to say that helenic is just another term for pale.
you made a narrow minded statement bout a broad and diverse range of people and im the idiot?
Quote" all black people in the states are racists?" end quote.....
that's bullshit for real.
The point is I'm not Germanic in anyway, where as your spanish ancestors, whether mixed with berbers later on or not, were Germanic.
AND THE KNEE BONeZ CONNECTED TO THE DICK BONE
geia sas
i think that's how you helenic - greeks say it.
seriously
how far back ya wanna go?
which cave you comin from?
or we could take it back to the beginning..... we all got the out of africa gene..... way before Zeus was telling you the ins and outs of the universe your people, my people, all people were clubbin each other to death for the same pathetic reason we havin a totally off topic debate.
The actual point of this - meaning our little back and forth - is i didn't agree with what you said about black hip hop fans being racists. i put rhymes up on myspace and an american guy and yes he was black and yes he was a hip hop head asked me if i wanted to collaborate. if your right in your assumption then that never would of happend. he would of been like, who is this white bitch and her wack shit, just like im thinkin who the fuck are you. ive worked for greeks and even though i had a bad experience with one of em i dont go round preachin bout "all greeks" are this or that. and even though i know the greek community is very tight knit i know one man dont represent a whole race. thats my beef with you.
You're arguing with me like I'm defending Iggy, or that I said all black american hip hop fans are racist towards all whites. Of which I said neither. Iggy is shit and not all black hip hop heads are racist towards her, TI being one.
The point I initially made is that the majority black hip hop fans in the US are racist towards white frauds, and accepting of black frauds. And I used Drake as an example. A great white rapper who cares about the music and respects it and doers it well, like Evidence of Dilated or Eminem will be accepted by black hip hop fans in the US, but that was never a point I was trying to dismiss.
You may be a great rapper with a great regard and love for the music and because of that are accepted. But if you wrote two terrible rap songs that are disgraceful to every thing hip hop is about and released one yourself and gave the other to a black rapper and both of you became huge in the pop masses from those songs, you would be labeled a fraud while the black guy would get a pass.
watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZzesdSPdeI
and then you might have a better understanding of where drakes comin from..... then buy the actual documentary and educate yourself.
read this
http://piggyazalea.tumblr.com/
and then you might have a better understanding of why iggy cops so much hate.....
then do a wikipedia search on both of em and if you cant answer your own question then i dont care how educated you obviously are, your an ignoratio.
and by the way, that black b!*cH track by eminem totally discredicts your apparent argument.....
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@shallow
tried quotin ya but your obvisiousloy the don, big fish in a small pond.
helenic huh? im spanish and ya dont hear me bitchin bout the berbers bringin the beauty of islam to spain back in the 1400's. at the end of the day, if you got iranians calling themselves aryan ( which is the whole reason they changed the name from persia to iran ) then i think its safe to say that helenic is just another term for pale.
you made a narrow minded statement bout a broad and diverse range of people and im the idiot?
Quote" all black people in the states are racists?" end quote.....
that's bullshit for real.
The point is I'm not Germanic in anyway, where as your spanish ancestors, whether mixed with berbers later on or not, were Germanic.
AND THE KNEE BONeZ CONNECTED TO THE DICK BONE
geia sas
i think that's how you helenic - greeks say it.
seriously
how far back ya wanna go?
which cave you comin from?
or we could take it back to the beginning..... we all got the out of africa gene..... way before Zeus was telling you the ins and outs of the universe your people, my people, all people were clubbin each other to death for the same pathetic reason we havin a totally off topic debate.
The actual point of this - meaning our little back and forth - is i didn't agree with what you said about black hip hop fans being racists. i put rhymes up on myspace and an american guy and yes he was black and yes he was a hip hop head asked me if i wanted to collaborate. if your right in your assumption then that never would of happend. he would of been like, who is this white bitch and her wack shit, just like im thinkin who the fuck are you. ive worked for greeks and even though i had a bad experience with one of em i dont go round preachin bout "all greeks" are this or that. and even though i know the greek community is very tight knit i know one man dont represent a whole race. thats my beef with you.
You're arguing with me like I'm defending Iggy, or that I said all black american hip hop fans are racist towards all whites. Of which I said neither. Iggy is shit and not all black hip hop heads are racist towards her, TI being one.
The point I initially made is that the majority black hip hop fans in the US are racist towards white frauds, and accepting of black frauds. And I used Drake as an example. A great white rapper who cares about the music and respects it and doers it well, like Evidence of Dilated or Eminem will be accepted by black hip hop fans in the US, but that was never a point I was trying to dismiss.
You may be a great rapper with a great regard and love for the music and because of that are accepted. But if you wrote two terrible rap songs that are disgraceful to every thing hip hop is about and released one yourself and gave the other to a black rapper and both of you became huge in the pop masses from those songs, you would be labeled a fraud while the black guy would get a pass.
watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZzesdSPdeI
and then you might have a better understanding of where drakes comin from..... then buy the actual documentary and educate yourself.
read this
http://piggyazalea.tumblr.com/
and then you might have a better understanding of why iggy cops so much hate.....
then do a wikipedia search on both of em and if you cant answer your own question then i dont care how educated you obviously are, your an ignoratio.
and by the way, that black b!*cH track by eminem totally discredicts your apparent argument.....
Don't tell me about my area. Brampton isn't Forest Hill. Drake is from Forest Hill. That's like coming from the Hamptons or Beverly Hills, and even those Brampton kids are first, very new to the area, and second not anywhere near the black kids I came up with.
I'm from Scarborough, and the part of Scarborough that Drake pretends to be from, but he didn't once step foot in the hood until after he made it big and a lot of these guys jumped on his success looking for hookups, and even now, he'll never come around my areas unless its as a guest of someone respected. And I qualify as one of those respected. I could bring Drake to the hood and as my guest he would be safe.
I may be Greek but my people are all yawdy fucking Jamaicans, and I get nothing but love and respect from my extended family. The way I speak with you is the way I always speak because I have a strong sense of self and am confident in that. But way I am spoken too is usually a "bless fams" or "wha 'guan my nigga". I could look at my class pictures from grade school and over the course of my 8 years from JK to grade 6 I can see at least 12 faces of close friends that I have attended the funerals of after they were shot dead, and at least two faces of close friends that stood trial for killing a couple a of them.
If I'm not in Greece in the summers, I'm on the block, at the parties, at the ball games, in the project basements. I grew up hanging out in cyphers, and pitbull fights, and drug houses. I never got too involved to be a convicted criminal and I was never in the wrong place at the wrong time to get arrested. And was very lucky to have nothing on me all the times I was stopped and searched. My brother caught a gun charge when he was 14 and it made me extra cautious with what I would allow on my person and when I knew it was time to go home.
The life Drake wants to be from, and pretends to be from, is the life I grew up in. I don't have any problem with Aubrey Graham. I remember seeing him in the mall a couple times when I was with my little sister and he was on the TV show Degrassi. He was very nice, and a great kid. My sister was a fan of the show, he gave her a hug and an autograph. I have nothing but respect and love for the guy.
But what he is doing now is an act, and I have no qualms with that either. Bless his heart for figuring out a way to make himself a star and relevant. But what he's doing is no different than what Iggy is doing.
I mentioned Drake on purpose in my first post, because I know where he comes from, and where he doesn't come from.
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okay shallow,
so what's up?
is this a personal affront?
are you tryin to intimidate me, or soley diss on drake?
am i the only one around here who doesn't think i dont know whats goin on?
where i come from, people dont give their connections up so easy.
and if your trying to humiliate me, here's a heads up.......
in order to feel humiliated, one must first value your opinion....
and your welcome to say the same thing straight back to me.
you dont know me, and i dont know you.
but we've both formed differing opinions on what seems to me is a touchy subject for you......
you didn't actually personally attack me so im not frontin
but seriously,
to quote someone else when you know they said it better, im stickin to west on this and sayin......
fuck a greek bitch, stick to the script - doggy'z angelz
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okay shallow,
so what's up?
is this a personal affront?
are you tryin to intimidate me, or soley diss on drake?
am i the only one around here who doesn't think i dont know whats goin on?
where i come from, people dont give their connections up so easy.
and if your trying to humiliate me, here's a heads up.......
in order to feel humiliated, one must first value your opinion....
and your welcome to say the same thing straight back to me.
you dont know me, and i dont know you.
but we've both formed differing opinions on what seems to me is a touchy subject for you......
you didn't actually personally attack me so im not frontin
but seriously,
to quote someone else when you know they said it better, im stickin to west on this and sayin......
fuck a greek bitch, stick to the script - doggy'z angelz
I'm not trying to intimidate you or dis Drake. I'm just explaining to you how know Drake is an act that does not come from the world he claims to come from, or even the watered down world of that documentary. He comes from the very upper class.
I also am not hating on his decision to rap that lie. No one would get behind Started From the Top and Im still Here.
Just dont think what Drake is doing is any different than Iggy.
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lol @ "helenic" aka hel(l)enic aka greek...greek people are white, they europeans! some people take it way too far smh
spanish people are white too unless you mean HIS-spanic, which is another thing the two words get just get confused very often
The only one laughing out loud is Babylon, for fooling you. Most "Greeks" are fooled as well. But it's bullshit. The word Greek isn't any different than the word Nigger. A word that had no business being used to describe a people used by those that conquered those people as a way to denigrate them. There is no word in the language that even sounds like Greek that anyone would use to describe themselves within that people. It only started being widespread when Roman Soldiers used it towards my people aftter they round them up and enslaved them.
Its just a sorry attempt by barberians that overtook us and try and give some meaning to their own lack of ancient history. You take me, an Ethiopian, and Egyptian, a Persian, and an Arab and take our DNA samples, and compare them to to a Spaniard, German, or anyone with roots from Western Europe and you'll see the difference.
My tribe isn't African, or Arab, or Persian, but it is unique to its own. Modern Europe just tries to lay connection to it because they want to seem like they had a hand in shaping the ancient world.
The Ancient Hellenes and Ancient Egyptians worked together and progressed together. Plato and his peers never had bad words for those south of the sea. Both sides were welcome in each other's homes. Even when Alexander took Egypt and left it to Ptolemy, it wasn't out of malice. Egypt was in shambles at the time, and the Ptolemic period helped maintain order and preserve a great civilization. It wasn't until those butchers from Rome got involved that things started to crumble there. Then once Rome fell to the Savages from the North West, all was lost.
Funny how a people that were trying to measure the circumference of the Earth in 400 BC are supposed to be the ancestors of people that thought the Earth was flat in 1400 AD.
Even Jesus knew unique aspects of the Hellenes. he named Simon, Peter. And thus Peter laid the way for Luke, an Ancient Hellene, not a Jew, to help pave the groundwork for the Church.
The point is my Ancestors can be found all over the Middle East and North Africa; you can't say that about any other European people. Thus, we are different.
And anyone that wants to mention what the Spanish did to the Hispanic or what the rest of Western Europe did to the Africans; you can go and read up what "Greece" was up to during that whole mess; I'll tell you; from 1453 nearly half a century before the savages even discovered Africa to 1821, a full generation after the Atlantic Slave Trade was abolished, and just a few decades before all slaves were freed, "Greece" was conquered and enslaved by the Ottoman Empire; Turkish Muslims that had us under their control for nearly 400. None of my ancestors could even own land, much less trade slaves.
And where was rest of "my people" as you claim, as they were fattening their bellies selling slaves and destroying South American Empires? Why wouldn't they come to our aid and fend off the Muslims? Because they too saw us as different than them, just as we see them as different than us.
Just like Greece is the odd man out in the current state of Euro politics, it was the odd man out always.
^^ fair enough...sorry man, but it seems like you would try very hard to find reasons why you are "not-white" and you also try to prove everyone how big your street credibility is...it's not really a good look imo
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i come from a land where weak men dont belong
where we eat till we're full then move along
where language is family and family is strong
where we know our rights from where we been done wrong
but i belong to a world of miscommunications
hipocritical politicians
governments takin extended vacations
i dont know why im messin with a schoolgirl when its obvious she's only procrastinatin
so fuck it
someone's already recorded a line outa this rhyme
i might just end the conversation
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^^ fair enough...sorry man, but it seems like you would try very hard to find reasons why you are "not-white" and you also try to prove everyone how big your street credibility is...it's not really a good look imo
I'm a 32 year old man. I could give a shit about street cred or what people think about me. Dude brought up my area and told me to watch a documentary so I could better understand where Drake is coming from. I told him about me so that I could explain where I'm coming frm when I say Drake is a fraud, and again, I don't say that in a bad way. I have no hate for Drake, or for Iggy.
And yeah, my skin is white by your standards, but just across the Agean there are Turks with skin even pler than mine, and behind them Persians and many of them are paler than me, but no one calls them white the same way they call Brits and Germans white. So why should I get lumped in with the whites on the on the other side of the Ionian, but not with the ones on the other side of the Agean. The west side sea is closer to what I am than the east side sea? We were conquered and enslaved by Turks for 400 years, I'd imagine there was some mixing going on. Germany only conquered us for a matter of months during WW2, not enough time to infiltrate the gene pool.
Do I deny that my appearance could at times pass as the priveledged white? No. Do I think my ceiling for success is greater than it would be if I were black or latino because I can pass? YEs I do think that. I don't deny that Greeks have more benefits in the Western World than blacks, latinos or arabs. But that doesn't mean I want to be associated with people that aren't my own just because to many I am the same as them.
The truth, my ceiling may be higher, but it still exists. Drake has a higher ceiling than me with his very connected Jewish Toronto family. And anyone that thinks its a coincidence that Spiro Agnew resigned just before Watergate, for unrelated reasons, needs to understand was they got him out of there on purpose because they were not about to let a Greek be president of the United States. They let one run nearly 20 years later just to get slaughtered by Bush Sr, and he did beat out Jesse to get the shot.
I'll never argue that Greeks don't have it better than blacks. We do. But we aren't the same white, just like Turkey isn't the same white. Yeah we're from Europe, but both Chinese and Philipinos are from Asia and some can even pass for eachother. It doesn't make them the same.
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this thread is beginning to have classic potential
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this thread is beginning to have classic potential
just wait until Nick Young's #1 fan shows up
Cunt Tyme loves him some Piggy Azalea