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Title: Snoop Dogg furious over Billboard 10 Greatest Rappers Of All Time"
Post by: CORREA on November 17, 2015, 11:43:33 PM
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Title: Re: Snoop Dogg furious over Billboard 10 Greatest Rappers Of All Time"
Post by: Westdog on November 18, 2015, 01:27:15 AM
Where is Pac, Cube, Snoop? Fuck billboard!!
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Post by: Davizz on November 18, 2015, 01:46:35 AM
WTF
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Post by: doggfather on November 18, 2015, 03:49:59 AM
interesting list
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Post by: donfathaimmortal on November 18, 2015, 04:17:20 AM
So 2Pac wasn't a rapper ? If Steven J. Horowitz (https://twitter.com/@speriod) & Alex Gale (https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-gale-52783b1) think 2Pac can't be in this list cuz he was a poet or a leader more than a rapper, that's ok...

Oh, he cant ? Really ? Just cuz u don't think 2Pac was one of the 10 Greatest Rappers of All Time, more than Bitch Wayne ? haha

#GFY

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Title: Re: Snoop Dogg furious over Billboard 10 Greatest Rappers Of All Time"
Post by: HighEyeCue on November 18, 2015, 07:02:53 AM
this is more like a Source list from the 90s...I love Biggie but how is he the GOAT with only 1 album released while he was alive? and where are the West coast artists? Kendrick over Snoop, Cube?
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Post by: Blasphemy on November 18, 2015, 07:54:07 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-As5fgiKwY <-- This song pretty much sums it all up, just add Billboard to the list, West never gets it's proper respect, just pissed because westcoast rappers made something real. East coast can stick they mafia tales and wannabe frank lucas raps up they ass.
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Post by: DRGNBLZN on November 18, 2015, 08:45:35 AM
What a bullshit list! How is Lauryn Hill even considered? shes a crossover artist. No 2Pac, Nas, KRS One or Ice Cube? then this list shouldn't exist.
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Post by: WestWestYA on November 18, 2015, 09:57:07 AM
What a bullshit list! How is Lauryn Hill even considered? shes a crossover artist. No 2Pac, Nas, KRS One or Ice Cube? then this list shouldn't exist.
Nas is on the list.
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Post by: BlueSwan on November 18, 2015, 11:30:11 AM
Can't really see who #10 is, but it looks like it might be Lil Wayne.

Anyway, Biggie, Jay-Z, Eminem & Nas definitely belong on the list.

Rakim has a claim given his influence on the rap game.

Kendrick is still young, but to me, he absolutely belongs on the list. He is one of those rappers where you can't really claim that anybody is actually better than him.

Lauren Hill has no business being on this list at all.

Ghostface, Wayne and Andre 3000 - I personally wouldn't pick any of them, but I wouldn't really knock anybody that hard for doing so.

Biggest omission is obviously 2Pac.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg furious over Billboard 10 Greatest Rappers Of All Time"
Post by: DRGNBLZN on November 18, 2015, 12:51:16 PM
What a bullshit list! How is Lauryn Hill even considered? shes a crossover artist. No 2Pac, Nas, KRS One or Ice Cube? then this list shouldn't exist.
Nas is on the list.

lol I don't know how I missed that. Too much fruity pebbles this morning I guess.

Regardless, this list is serious garbo. Whoever made this must've just started listening to hip hop when Kendrick first blew up or something. Jay-Z #2? what?
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Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on November 18, 2015, 09:34:07 PM
They probably wanted to put Eminem first but they didn't want to be accused of showing racial preference...

...why Jay-Z always makes these lists is bullshit to me....

Pac not being on it is a complete injustice... and Snoop as well

I don't have a prob with Lauren being their token female on the list, at least it wasn't Niki Minaj

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Post by: BIGWORM on November 18, 2015, 10:07:31 PM
No Kool G Rap or Big Daddy Kane?

Fuck that list and anyone that agreed with it
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Post by: Blood$ on November 18, 2015, 10:08:29 PM
it was Billboard... what did y'all expect? lol

but good for Snoop for speaking out
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Post by: Game-Won on November 20, 2015, 12:16:10 AM
it was Billboard... what did y'all expect? lol

but good for Snoop for speaking out


Any DOA music top 10 with no Pac is a joke.
He wasnt just a rapper, dude is a icon beyound what kanye is now. - He would had been a huge figure, everyone could see that.
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Post by: Sccit on November 20, 2015, 10:06:34 AM
NO WAY THEY BEIN SERIOUS.....THEY MADE THAT LIST FOR CLICKS, BOTTOM LINE
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Post by: Blasphemy on November 20, 2015, 05:09:09 PM
They probably wanted to put Eminem first but they didn't want to be accused of showing racial preference...

...why Jay-Z always makes these lists is bullshit to me....

Pac not being on it is a complete injustice... and Snoop as well

I don't have a prob with Lauren being their token female on the list, at least it wasn't Niki Minaj


Jay Z plays the industries games, fucking faggot needs to catch aids and die talking bout he was a drug dealer and shit, I believe his bitch ass got shot 3 times, motherfucker looks like a Victim.
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Post by: jory on November 22, 2015, 04:53:33 AM
If they include biggie with one album. Then DOC should be number 1.
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Post by: Fonkarround on November 22, 2015, 10:24:16 AM
Its just made for controversy. Come on, Lauryn Hill?

Only rappers that should be on that list without any discussion are Biggie and Em. Nas could be considered - but rest? I dont know what they had in mind doing that list. Ghostface and Andre out of nowhere. I hope it isnt lil wayne on the 10th. Snoop's reaction definetly on point. He should be on the list too.
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Post by: WestWestYA on November 22, 2015, 02:02:44 PM
Its just made for controversy. Come on, Lauryn Hill?

Only rappers that should be on that list without any discussion are Biggie and Em. Nas could be considered - but rest? I dont know what they had in mind doing that list. Ghostface and Andre out of nowhere. I hope it isnt lil wayne on the 10th. Snoop's reaction definetly on point. He should be on the list too.
Wayne is number 10 smh.
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Post by: mrfranklin on November 25, 2015, 01:04:19 AM
hahahah, this is a joke!
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Post by: Sccit on November 25, 2015, 03:37:03 PM
i mean, it makes sense...if the list was what it should be

1.2pac
2.biggie
3.rakim
4.nas
5.ice cube
6.kool g-rap
7.eminem
8.krs-one
9.snoop dogg
10.big pun




a list like this would make much more sense....but at the same time, it wouldnt make more $en$e
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Post by: Mietek23 on November 29, 2015, 01:58:17 AM
Snoop's right - this is some bullshit.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg furious over Billboard 10 Greatest Rappers Of All Time"
Post by: So Much Style on November 30, 2015, 01:45:18 PM
1.kurupt
2.eminem
3.jayz
4. 2pac
5.snoop
6. biggie
7.nas
8. crooked I
9. andre 3k
10. royce
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg furious over Billboard 10 Greatest Rappers Of All Time"
Post by: Sccit on November 30, 2015, 01:55:43 PM
1.kurupt
2.eminem
3.jayz
4. 2pac
5.snoop
6. biggie
7.nas
8. crooked I
9. andre 3k
10. royce


U really got jay above pac?
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Post by: CORREA on November 30, 2015, 07:44:56 PM
1.kurupt
2.eminem
3.jayz
4. 2pac
5.snoop
6. biggie
7.nas
8. crooked I
9. andre 3k
10. royce

lmao thanks for the entertainment this list is ridiculous and to top it off a rapper who never sold shit lol
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg furious over Billboard 10 Greatest Rappers Of All Time"
Post by: CORREA on November 30, 2015, 07:46:52 PM
i just can see it now retards on here posting their own top 10 filled with rappers we never saw again after 1996 :laugh:
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Post by: BlueSwan on December 01, 2015, 12:24:34 AM
In terms of impact, skill, sales, quality there is a tier 1 group consisting of 2Pac, Biggie, Eminem, Jay-Z and arguably Nas. These guys have the "full package". Massive impact, massive respect from other rappers, awesome skills, massive sales (with the possible exception of Nas, who was never THAT huge sales wise). This group of rappers is impossible to ignore on lists like these and I would probably question any top 10 that failed to include any of those five guys.

Then there is an old-skool group of highly influential 80's rappers like Rakim, KRS-one, Melle Mel, etc. On the one hand one could argue that these guys deserve a spot, on the other hand the game has evolved a lot since their time, and they furthermore suffer from hip-hop primarily being an underground phenomenon in the 80's (at least compared to what it became in the 90's and 00's).

Then there is a group of highly skilled rappers who for various reasons have had less of a cultural impact or commercial success, who you could argue belongs to the list solely based on skill level. From this group Kendrick Lamar is probably the most succesful and the one that is toughest to ignore for such a list.

Then you have a group of rappers whose argument is mainly that they were enormously succesful. This includes rappers like 50 Cent, Lil Wayne, T.I., Ja Rule, Snoop Dogg, Dr.Dre (the rapper, not the producer) and a whole host of others, including even maligned names like MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice. The problem with this bunch is that they aren't really that highly regarded as masters of the craft, but rather as really succesful "pop"-rappers.
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Post by: Sccit on December 01, 2015, 01:02:16 AM
^Prime snoop is a master of his craft tho .. Moreso than jay-z, no doubt
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Post by: BlueSwan on December 01, 2015, 01:10:47 AM
^Prime snoop is a master of his craft tho .. Moreso than jay-z, no doubt
I agree, since I am a big fan of Snoop (except the part about Jay-Z). He would be in my personal top 5. However, I also agree with the people who say that he fell off in a major way and that he really only does one thing really well. In terms of pure skill, he isn't really in the Tier 1, no matter how much I personally enjoy his style. His catalogue also suffers from serious quality control issues. Only Doggystyle and Tha Last Meal were really flawless. Every other Snoop album feels bloated.
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Post by: Sccit on December 01, 2015, 01:24:43 AM
I personally like doggfather over last meal and top dogg is right up there too .... snoop is a master of the flow....He's not lyrically the best, but in his prime, he's a better rapper than jay-z. Jay-z was even biting snoop at one point. Jay-z doesn't belong in a top 5, unless it's a business acumen oriented list.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg furious over Billboard 10 Greatest Rappers Of All Time"
Post by: CORREA on December 01, 2015, 01:35:16 AM
In terms of impact, skill, sales, quality there is a tier 1 group consisting of 2Pac, Biggie, Eminem, Jay-Z and arguably Nas. These guys have the "full package". Massive impact, massive respect from other rappers, awesome skills, massive sales (with the possible exception of Nas, who was never THAT huge sales wise). This group of rappers is impossible to ignore on lists like these and I would probably question any top 10 that failed to include any of those five guys.

Then there is an old-skool group of highly influential 80's rappers like Rakim, KRS-one, Melle Mel, etc. On the one hand one could argue that these guys deserve a spot, on the other hand the game has evolved a lot since their time, and they furthermore suffer from hip-hop primarily being an underground phenomenon in the 80's (at least compared to what it became in the 90's and 00's).

Then there is a group of highly skilled rappers who for various reasons have had less of a cultural impact or commercial success, who you could argue belongs to the list solely based on skill level. From this group Kendrick Lamar is probably the most succesful and the one that is toughest to ignore for such a list.

Then you have a group of rappers whose argument is mainly that they were enormously succesful. This includes rappers like 50 Cent, Lil Wayne, T.I., Ja Rule, Snoop Dogg, Dr.Dre (the rapper, not the producer) and a whole host of others, including even maligned names like MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice. The problem with this bunch is that they aren't really that highly regarded as masters of the craft, but rather as really succesful "pop"-rappers.

true you do have a point there should be 2 or 3 groups and one group should have the  2Pac, Biggie, Eminem, Jay-Z and arguably Nas

the sad thing bout the old-skool rappers is they are already forgotten todays gen wont even know the 90s rappers unless u was a house name but i predict 10 -20 years down
the road 2Pac, Biggie, Eminem, Jay-Z Nas and more will share the same fate 2Pac might survive tho i give him a 50/50
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Post by: WalterOhDim on December 01, 2015, 08:25:12 PM
Top 10 lists are hard to do no matter what... me personally my top 10 rappers are all about replay value at the end of the day.  Who can you listen to over and over again? Those are the rappers that have impact over time.  The Billboard list is not tested thru time (at best).  My top 10 in NO ORDER
2pac, DMX, Jay-Z, Nas, Eminem, Snoop, Xzibit, Biggie, Ice Cube, Scarface.