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Title: Discussion on tracks Sam Sneed did during his time with Dre...
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on January 27, 2017, 10:43:43 AM
Of course I've been bumping "Better Recognize" since the time it came out... but I happened to catch it on my playlist the other day, and truly that track is on a whole nother level.  In fact, when you think that Sam Sneed was a driving force behind "Natural Born Killaz" and "Keep Their Heads Wringing" as well, it seems he was probably one the greatest talents around at the time of 94' and 95'.  Those are 3 of the tightest bangers hip-hop has ever seen.

The released version of "Lady Heroine" from the Gridlocked Soundtrack was trash, but the alternate version was a tight joint.  Very well written, and he's flowing on that level he did with "Better Recognize".  Dude was a producer, but damn he also had a sick flow.  Only thing missing was I guess he just didn't have that star quality and presence, or image on camera--but behind the mic he didn't seem to be lacking in charisma. Also, that "Blueberry" unreleased joint he had with Snoop was fuckin dope   

How was the WideAwake Sam Sneed album?  I'd like it if someone could hook up a fan-made Sam Sneed album and somehow add to these bangers...Any other joints on or near the level of...

"Betta Recognize"
"Keep The Heads Wringing"
"Natural Born Killaz"
"Lady Heroine" (unreleased version)
"BlueBerry" with Snoop

what else?
Title: Re: Discussion on tracks Sam Sneed did during his time with Dre...
Post by: soopa-man on January 27, 2017, 09:40:33 PM
Drug Related is also dope as fuck from that era,  the piase track Guilty as Sin is as well there also a track called Bone Breaker or some thing with Drauma/Sharief in it that is knocking
Title: Re: Discussion on tracks Sam Sneed did during his time with Dre...
Post by: dj coma on January 27, 2017, 10:39:15 PM
The original version of his Death Row album is bangin' but the quality is subpar and lots of tracks were not completed so they're missing hooks and have gaps for verses and adlibs. Even with those shortcomings I still bump it regularly because it's that good.
Title: Re: Discussion on tracks Sam Sneed did during his time with Dre...
Post by: Tha Crip on January 27, 2017, 10:45:31 PM
I fixed up a version of my own. Tweaked all the leaked tracks to sound as good as possible...not cdq but better then it was before..enjoy


Street Scholars

Tracklisting:

1. Blueberrie (ft. Snoop Doggy Dogg)
2. U Better Recognize (ft. Dr. Dre)
3. U Better Recognize (Dre Remix)
4. Lady Heroin (ft. J-Flexx)
5. Drug Related
6. Goin' Hollywood
7. In Da Zone
8. Guilty As Sin (ft. Drauma & Kurupt)
9. Sticky Situations
10. Stayin Alive
11. Let The Madness Begin
12. Trump Tight
13. Lyrical Assassins
14. New World Order
15. It's So Hot
16. The Heist
17. Street Scholars
18. Dear God
19. Ghetto Hero
20. Bone Breaker
21. Blueberry (LBC Crew Version)


http://www118.zippyshare.com/v/kn73qj6H/file.html (http://www118.zippyshare.com/v/kn73qj6H/file.html)
Title: Re: Discussion on tracks Sam Sneed did during his time with Dre...
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on January 28, 2017, 01:58:46 AM
Damn Crip this was what I was needing!  Thx homie! Only thing it's missing is I think you should of had the Sneed version of "Natural Born Killaz"
Title: Re: Discussion on tracks Sam Sneed did during his time with Dre...
Post by: Fritz on January 28, 2017, 03:13:49 AM
Thanks for the remastering!
Title: Re: Discussion on tracks Sam Sneed did during his time with Dre...
Post by: Okka on January 28, 2017, 07:19:06 AM
Didn't Efrain remaster the original album too or am i wrong?
Title: Re: Discussion on tracks Sam Sneed did during his time with Dre...
Post by: Black Excellence on January 28, 2017, 08:52:42 AM
dope thread infinite!!!! it's a damn shame how so much potential was wasted at death row. if suge wasn't so foolish, sam coulda kept death row on top cause he had the sound that dre was gettin' credit for then.
Title: Re: Discussion on tracks Sam Sneed did during his time with Dre...
Post by: Tha Crip on January 28, 2017, 09:56:56 AM
Didn't Efrain remaster the original album too or am i wrong?


He did not...sure would be dope if he did tho!!!  8)
Title: Re: Discussion on tracks Sam Sneed did during his time with Dre...
Post by: HighEyeCue on January 31, 2017, 06:42:09 PM
I fixed up a version of my own. Tweaked all the leaked tracks to sound as good as possible...not cdq but better then it was before..enjoy


Street Scholars

Tracklisting:

1. Blueberrie (ft. Snoop Doggy Dogg)
2. U Better Recognize (ft. Dr. Dre)
3. U Better Recognize (Dre Remix)
4. Lady Heroin (ft. J-Flexx)
5. Drug Related
6. Goin' Hollywood
7. In Da Zone
8. Guilty As Sin (ft. Drauma & Kurupt)
9. Sticky Situations
10. Stayin Alive
11. Let The Madness Begin
12. Trump Tight
13. Lyrical Assassins
14. New World Order
15. It's So Hot
16. The Heist
17. Street Scholars
18. Dear God
19. Ghetto Hero
20. Bone Breaker
21. Blueberry (LBC Crew Version)


http://www118.zippyshare.com/v/kn73qj6H/file.html (http://www118.zippyshare.com/v/kn73qj6H/file.html)


Thanks for sharing 8)
Title: Re: Discussion on tracks Sam Sneed did during his time with Dre...
Post by: Lucifuge on February 02, 2017, 02:26:08 AM
Street dreams w Nas?
Title: Re: Discussion on tracks Sam Sneed did during his time with Dre...
Post by: Okka on February 02, 2017, 05:56:26 AM
Street dreams w Nas?

What?
Title: Re: Discussion on tracks Sam Sneed did during his time with Dre...
Post by: Don Seer on February 03, 2017, 02:27:47 AM

thats a The Firm era track from after Nature joined, so its definitely aftermath era, no sneed involvement.. sounds like chiris the gloves style to me.


fwiw sneed tracks in my plalylists.. lady heroin (with jt flex) and golden child (and of course u better recognise)
Title: Re: Discussion on tracks Sam Sneed did during his time with Dre...
Post by: Okka on February 03, 2017, 05:16:33 AM

thats a The Firm era track from after Nature joined, so its definitely aftermath era, no sneed involvement.. sounds like chiris the gloves style to me.


fwiw sneed tracks in my plalylists.. lady heroin (with jt flex) and golden child (and of course u better recognise)

Are y'all talkin' about some unreleased song from some bootleg? Cause the "Street Dreams" that was released is produced by Trackmasters.
Title: Re: Discussion on tracks Sam Sneed did during his time with Dre...
Post by: teletomble on February 03, 2017, 06:20:34 AM

thats a The Firm era track from after Nature joined, so its definitely aftermath era, no sneed involvement.. sounds like chiris the gloves style to me.


fwiw sneed tracks in my plalylists.. lady heroin (with jt flex) and golden child (and of course u better recognise)

Are y'all talkin' about some unreleased song from some bootleg? Cause the "Street Dreams" that was released is produced by Trackmasters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpM8f1LboiI
Title: Re: Discussion on tracks Sam Sneed did during his time with Dre...
Post by: Don Seer on February 03, 2017, 07:12:50 AM
yeah that one thx
Title: Re: Discussion on tracks Sam Sneed did during his time with Dre...
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on February 03, 2017, 07:17:54 AM
dope thread infinite!!!! it's a damn shame how so much potential was wasted at death row. if suge wasn't so foolish, sam coulda kept death row on top cause he had the sound that dre was gettin' credit for then.

Yeah Suge got stubborn off the success of 2pac...thought he was "untouchable".  But he really could've used a nicca like Sneed around, with Sneed and J Flexx around they still had some of that Dre sound wit um... Daz was great but he couldn't carry the whole roster.

As for why Dre never backed a Sneed solo I think Dre fully backed "Recognize" and that probably represented the height of Sneeds solo potential and Dre probably felt that if that didn't blow up a full project wouldn't have blown up.  I mean it's a classic for all of us but Sneed didn't have the star quality to blow up behind a video camera so he was relegated to staying behind the boards....damn shame cause he was swift with the pen and had an undeniable flow.
Title: Re: Discussion on tracks Sam Sneed did during his time with Dre...
Post by: Don Seer on February 03, 2017, 11:47:16 AM
I think it was a sound fairly similar in 'era' to the King T album, and would have gone the same way.

It was just too late for it, the game had moved on.

Had a Sneed or Snoop, Dre, Death Row album dropped, with that sound in early 96 instead of the Aftermath Comp and The Firm, along side All Eyez On Me (which also had some of that sound... (via Can't C Me, and California Love) then it'd been on to something..

basically.. the rumoured Chronic II - Poppas Got a Brand New Funk with Can't C Me, California Love, Natural Born Killaz etc.. would be what we expected
Title: Re: Discussion on tracks Sam Sneed did during his time with Dre...
Post by: Sccit on February 03, 2017, 12:06:13 PM
What is sam sneed doin nowadays?
Title: Re: Discussion on tracks Sam Sneed did during his time with Dre...
Post by: Mietek23 on February 03, 2017, 03:36:55 PM
What is sam sneed doin nowadays?

He's living in ATL still making music - he's actually a mentor to a talented UK producer Nat Powers, who produced Curtis Young's "Doctor Note" album back in 2012.
Title: Re: Discussion on tracks Sam Sneed did during his time with Dre...
Post by: Sccit on February 03, 2017, 07:53:28 PM
What is sam sneed doin nowadays?

He's living in ATL still making music - he's actually a mentor to a talented UK producer Nat Powers, who produced Curtis Young's "Doctor Note" album back in 2012.

He release anything or produce any tracks of late?
Title: Re: Discussion on tracks Sam Sneed did during his time with Dre...
Post by: procrastiNate on March 02, 2017, 01:55:37 AM
I talk to him on facebook sometimes. I actually have his personal number in one of my phones that I don't use anyone. I've talked to him over the phone a few times. Really cool, down to earth guy. Don't know what he's doing as far as music wise right now though.
Title: Re: Discussion on tracks Sam Sneed did during his time with Dre...
Post by: Jay Wallace on March 02, 2017, 05:05:37 PM
I think Sneed was kind of a victim of the in-house fighting at Death Row.  He was a member of Dre's crew but he tried to test the waters regarding his solo career after Dre left, which Dre had warned him would be a problem.  According to Bruce Williams, Sneed was summoned to an artist meeting right after Dre was gone and was warned by Dre that it was a bad idea as Suge was just looking to get at anyone associated with him because he had stopped coming to Can-Am at that point.  Sneed was still hopeful that Suge still had interest in putting out his album.  When he got there, things immediately got bad as he showed Sneed's video, which had Dre in it and several East Coast rappers.  Suge ended up grilling him about trying to charge Snoop too much for a beat and he ended up catching a beatdown.  Other reports say Suge continued to have them strike him until he told them that Dre was gay and denounced him in front of everyone.  According to Bruce, Dre grilled him about what happened and he denied insulting him.  It put him in a weird spot with Dre and Death Row really had no interest in him after that.  I'd say it was less about him not having the sound as much as it was, not having anybody in his corner.
Title: Re: Discussion on tracks Sam Sneed did during his time with Dre...
Post by: Sccit on March 02, 2017, 05:16:57 PM
I think Sneed was kind of a victim of the in-house fighting at Death Row.  He was a member of Dre's crew but he tried to test the waters regarding his solo career after Dre left, which Dre had warned him would be a problem.  According to Bruce Williams, Sneed was summoned to an artist meeting right after Dre was gone and was warned by Dre that it was a bad idea as Suge was just looking to get at anyone associated with him because he had stopped coming to Can-Am at that point.  Sneed was still hopeful that Suge still had interest in putting out his album.  When he got there, things immediately got bad as he showed Sneed's video, which had Dre in it and several East Coast rappers.  Suge ended up grilling him about trying to charge Snoop too much for a beat and he ended up catching a beatdown.  Other reports say Suge continued to have them strike him until he told them that Dre was gay and denounced him in front of everyone.  According to Bruce, Dre grilled him about what happened and he denied insulting him.  It put him in a weird spot with Dre and Death Row really had no interest in him after that.  I'd say it was less about him not having the sound as much as it was, not having anybody in his corner.

LOL
Title: Re: Discussion on tracks Sam Sneed did during his time with Dre...
Post by: Okka on March 04, 2017, 10:45:46 AM
I think Sneed was kind of a victim of the in-house fighting at Death Row.  He was a member of Dre's crew but he tried to test the waters regarding his solo career after Dre left, which Dre had warned him would be a problem.  According to Bruce Williams, Sneed was summoned to an artist meeting right after Dre was gone and was warned by Dre that it was a bad idea as Suge was just looking to get at anyone associated with him because he had stopped coming to Can-Am at that point.  Sneed was still hopeful that Suge still had interest in putting out his album.  When he got there, things immediately got bad as he showed Sneed's video, which had Dre in it and several East Coast rappers.  Suge ended up grilling him about trying to charge Snoop too much for a beat and he ended up catching a beatdown.  Other reports say Suge continued to have them strike him until he told them that Dre was gay and denounced him in front of everyone.  According to Bruce, Dre grilled him about what happened and he denied insulting him.  It put him in a weird spot with Dre and Death Row really had no interest in him after that.  I'd say it was less about him not having the sound as much as it was, not having anybody in his corner.

I'm not sure how much of that book is true. According to Daz, it was Pac and the Outlawz who beat Sneed up because he had New York rappers in his video.