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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 14, 2017, 02:59:52 AM
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In retrospect I think Kuruption may of been a letdown from his flawless performance at Death Row--but if confined to one disc then maybe it was one of the best albums of those post-PAC years. It's an album I still listen to from time to time.
As for Streetz is a Mutha Kurupt really outdid himself and this was around the time the resurgence out west started to take place with Top Dogg, Dres album, Eastsidaz--and Kurupt went back to that pure West Coast sound.
If you could've taken his hot lead single from Kuruption "We Can Freak It" and had that to blow up Street Is A Mutha it might've been bonafied classic album.
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Yes it was. Fantastic album which had a cohesive flow, everyone came correct and kurupt was on form and coherent. A solid 4.5 mic release.
4mics for the songs and an extra half for the dmx skit.
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Classic IMO...your right about "Kuruption" though, some of my favorite all time Kurupt tracks are on that album 8)
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simply the best dogg pound release.
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Definitely a classic album. No doubt.
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Yes, it is.
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a hip-hop classic arguably but most definitely a personal classic in my eyes
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I always thought of it as a streets classic. When it first came out, EVERYONE in California was bumping this. I remember I was in college, I came home for Christmas break and picked up my sister from high school and damn near every car leaving the school wasn't bumping 2001, but Streetz Iz A Mutha.
Over time, it didn't really move the culture the way 2001 did. So as just a classic album, no. But as a straight streets album that real people listened to, and go the streets moving, hell yes this is a classic.
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Classic, without a doubt. And it was clear at the time of its release. Plus it had the commercial appeal from stuff like Who Ride Wit Us and Girls All Pause. Bangers for the car. Stuff for the hip-hop heads too. Good production all around. Maybe it's just me, but even though he went hard at DMX, the song was a little underwhelming to me from a lyrical standpoint since we got the Xxplosive type Kurupt on that one. But now that I think about it, I recall even doing a Spanish presentation on this album.
Kuruption was an interesting concept with the two discs but it had too much filler. He was a little ambitious with the double disc thing for a solo debut - I remember Krayzie Bone getting criticized for the same thing when he put out Thug Mentality 1999. But I rarely played the second disc, and I think I only cared to listen to that bonus track with Noreaga.
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Better than any daz album. Except for R.A.W. which is a classic for me.
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Classic, without a doubt. And it was clear at the time of its release. Plus it had the commercial appeal from stuff like Who Ride Wit Us and Girls All Pause. Bangers for the car. Stuff for the hip-hop heads too. Good production all around. Maybe it's just me, but even though he went hard at DMX, the song was a little underwhelming to me from a lyrical standpoint since we got the Xxplosive type Kurupt on that one. But now that I think about it, I recall even doing a Spanish presentation on this album.
Kuruption was an interesting concept with the two discs but it had too much filler. He was a little ambitious with the double disc thing for a solo debut - I remember Krayzie Bone getting criticized for the same thing when he put out Thug Mentality 1999. But I rarely played the second disc, and I think I only cared to listen to that bonus track with Noreaga.
Kurupt was drunk when he recorded "Callin Out Names" according to his cousin Redrum...he even threw up at one point
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It was an amazing album but it was also the beginning of the end for Kurupt as a top lyricist.
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Classic, without a doubt. And it was clear at the time of its release. Plus it had the commercial appeal from stuff like Who Ride Wit Us and Girls All Pause. Bangers for the car. Stuff for the hip-hop heads too. Good production all around. Maybe it's just me, but even though he went hard at DMX, the song was a little underwhelming to me from a lyrical standpoint since we got the Xxplosive type Kurupt on that one. But now that I think about it, I recall even doing a Spanish presentation on this album.
Kuruption was an interesting concept with the two discs but it had too much filler. He was a little ambitious with the double disc thing for a solo debut - I remember Krayzie Bone getting criticized for the same thing when he put out Thug Mentality 1999. But I rarely played the second disc, and I think I only cared to listen to that bonus track with Noreaga.
I always loved "The Life" track off the East Coast disc. I remember being in some thick ass depression during 98' and I'd spending a lot of time just staring out my bedroom window with that track on repeat and it'd take my mind to some far off place.
Bad Azz album came out around the same time and "The Last Time" was another sentimental track for me.
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Classic, without a doubt. And it was clear at the time of its release. Plus it had the commercial appeal from stuff like Who Ride Wit Us and Girls All Pause. Bangers for the car. Stuff for the hip-hop heads too. Good production all around. Maybe it's just me, but even though he went hard at DMX, the song was a little underwhelming to me from a lyrical standpoint since we got the Xxplosive type Kurupt on that one. But now that I think about it, I recall even doing a Spanish presentation on this album.
Kuruption was an interesting concept with the two discs but it had too much filler. He was a little ambitious with the double disc thing for a solo debut - I remember Krayzie Bone getting criticized for the same thing when he put out Thug Mentality 1999. But I rarely played the second disc, and I think I only cared to listen to that bonus track with Noreaga.
Kurupt was drunk when he recorded "Callin Out Names" according to his cousin Redrum...he even threw up at one point
Callin Out Names went hard. I liked drunk Kurupt. Never underwhelmed to me. Maybe though because I use to listen to it drunk or high.
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Classic, without a doubt. And it was clear at the time of its release. Plus it had the commercial appeal from stuff like Who Ride Wit Us and Girls All Pause. Bangers for the car. Stuff for the hip-hop heads too. Good production all around. Maybe it's just me, but even though he went hard at DMX, the song was a little underwhelming to me from a lyrical standpoint since we got the Xxplosive type Kurupt on that one. But now that I think about it, I recall even doing a Spanish presentation on this album.
Kuruption was an interesting concept with the two discs but it had too much filler. He was a little ambitious with the double disc thing for a solo debut - I remember Krayzie Bone getting criticized for the same thing when he put out Thug Mentality 1999. But I rarely played the second disc, and I think I only cared to listen to that bonus track with Noreaga.
I always loved "The Life" track off the East Coast disc. I remember being in some thick ass depression during 98' and I'd spending a lot of time just staring out my bedroom window with that track on repeat and it'd take my mind to some far off place.
Bad Azz album came out around the same time and "The Last Time" was another sentimental track for me.
East Coast Disc is slept on...definitely some bangers on there just wish he could have got Pete Rock to at least give him one beat
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Classic, without a doubt. And it was clear at the time of its release. Plus it had the commercial appeal from stuff like Who Ride Wit Us and Girls All Pause. Bangers for the car. Stuff for the hip-hop heads too. Good production all around. Maybe it's just me, but even though he went hard at DMX, the song was a little underwhelming to me from a lyrical standpoint since we got the Xxplosive type Kurupt on that one. But now that I think about it, I recall even doing a Spanish presentation on this album.
Kuruption was an interesting concept with the two discs but it had too much filler. He was a little ambitious with the double disc thing for a solo debut - I remember Krayzie Bone getting criticized for the same thing when he put out Thug Mentality 1999. But I rarely played the second disc, and I think I only cared to listen to that bonus track with Noreaga.
I always loved "The Life" track off the East Coast disc. I remember being in some thick ass depression during 98' and I'd spending a lot of time just staring out my bedroom window with that track on repeat and it'd take my mind to some far off place.
Bad Azz album came out around the same time and "The Last Time" was another sentimental track for me.
East Coast Disc is slept on...definitely some bangers on there just wish he could have got Pete Rock to at least give him one beat
Your right I mean if he wanted to go out East then fine, but he should've hooked up with the right production and done it to the fullest. At some points the East West theme felt gimmicky like he was just doin it to do it
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Better than any daz album. Except for R.A.W. which is a classic for me.
Yeah... Thiz Iz Not Over was a banger. "Get it off yo chest, let me know that you is a man." Always liked that line.
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It's a Personal classic because like every one in his thread, I'm a westcoast head but I dont think people consider this album a Hip-Hop Classic.
RAW was a personal classic as well and my favorite Daz solo over RR&GB!
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Westcoast Classic.
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It's a classic .. Some1 mentioned bad azz. His first album was a classic too.
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Bad Azz's first album was good but it wasn't a classic.
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I'd say Streetz Iz A Mutha is the equivalent to Daz's RR&BB
Kurupt's Space Boogie is equivalent to Daz's RAW.
That's the DPGs solo best works.
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I'd say Streetz Iz A Mutha is the equivalent to Daz's RR&BB
Kurupt's Space Boogie is equivalent to Daz's RAW.
That's the DPGs solo best works.
Don't forget "Dat Whoopty Whoop", it's up there as well 8)
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Bad Azz's first album was good but it wasn't a classic.
Classic to me
Soopafly first album too
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Bad Azz's first album was good but it wasn't a classic.
Classic to me
Soopafly first album too
I'd love to see your classics list. I wrote one, I was very tough, and I still had like 60 albums. And I didn't put in a lot of ones you thought I should, which would have put it at like 100. So I'd like to see yours.
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Bad Azz's first album was good but it wasn't a classic.
Classic to me
Soopafly first album too
I'd love to see your classics list. I wrote one, I was very tough, and I still had like 60 albums. And I didn't put in a lot of ones you thought I should, which would have put it at like 100. So I'd like to see yours.
If you had 60 classic albums than your grading scale is to easy
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To me, classic is only about quality of music .. Impact etc doesn't mean shit to me, because I don't give a shit what other people think. Most people are stupid as fuck. If it slaps front to back with no filler and I can play it every day of my life, it's a classic.
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To me, classic is only about quality of music .. Impact etc doesn't mean shit to me, because I don't give a shit what other people think. Most people are stupid as fuck. If it slaps front to back with no filler and I can play it every day of my life, it's a classic.
Exactly how i feel.
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Bad Azz's first album was good but it wasn't a classic.
Classic to me
Soopafly first album too
I'd love to see your classics list. I wrote one, I was very tough, and I still had like 60 albums. And I didn't put in a lot of ones you thought I should, which would have put it at like 100. So I'd like to see yours.
If you had 60 classic albums than your grading scale is to easy
I got shit for being too hard and leaving out a number of albums. Honestly, I think Hip-Hop's grading scale is too easy. People are like, they need 3 classics before they get GOAT conversations. Like seriously, 3 classics! Hip-Hop gives out classic labels too easy. Almost every mainstream rapper that is somewhat big gets a classic album. Maybe we need to stop using the word classic and start talking about how artist have their trademark album, or they have their own masterpiece album. Because the word classic gets thrown around a lot. Looking at the list, it's actually 58, I could take out a lot and be happy with the list, the more I think about it. Like here would be the list....
1. Kurtis Blow - Kurtis Blow - 1980
2. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five - The Message -1982
3. Wild Style Original Soundtrack - 1983
4. Run-DMC - Run DMC - 1984
5. Boogie Down Production - Criminal Minded - 1987
6. Eric B. & Rakim - Paid in Full - 1987
7. Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back - 1988
8. N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton - 1988
9. A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory - 1991
10. Dr. Dre - The Chronic - 1992
11. Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) - 1993
12. Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle - 1993
13. Nas - Illmatic - 1994
14. The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready to Die - 1994
15. 2Pac - Me Against the World - 1995
16. Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill - 1998
17. Dr. Dre - 2001 - 1999
18. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP - 2000
19. Jay-Z - The Blueprint - 2001
20. Nas - Stillmatic - 2001
21. Kanye West - College Dropout - 2004
22. Kendrick Lamar - Good Kid, m.A.A.d. City - 2012
23. Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly - 2015
Forget what I'm missing, what else can we cut.
To me, classic is only about quality of music .. Impact etc doesn't mean shit to me, because I don't give a shit what other people think. Most people are stupid as fuck. If it slaps front to back with no filler and I can play it every day of my life, it's a classic.
The what are classic albums to you. Like to me, I have Streetz Iz A Mutha as a personal and street classic. But I don't consider it a straight Hip-Hop classic because I can argue about it's weak points and weak songs. Like Represent That GC, which honestly is one of my favorite songs to listen to, even to this day, where he raps the same words over and over and has maybe the most simple bars I've heard from Kurupt. So to me, it's a solid album, but not really a classic.
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The what are classic albums to you. Like to me, I have Streetz Iz A Mutha as a personal and street classic. But I don't consider it a straight Hip-Hop classic because I can argue about it's weak points and weak songs. Like Represent That GC, which honestly is one of my favorite songs to listen to, even to this day, where he raps the same words over and over and has maybe the most simple bars I've heard from Kurupt. So to me, it's a solid album, but not really a classic.
I'd argue that simple is perfectly acceptable if it's done effectively. People don't gravitate to complex, they jump at what is memorable and catchy. Context is important too. Some lyrics are comprised of simple words but form a far deeper or more clever meaning. On the reverse end, there are a plenty of artists who spit stuff that has a lot of big words and rhymes but doesn't resonate or paint a picture at all.
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Bad Azz's first album was good but it wasn't a classic.
Classic to me
Soopafly first album too
I'd love to see your classics list. I wrote one, I was very tough, and I still had like 60 albums. And I didn't put in a lot of ones you thought I should, which would have put it at like 100. So I'd like to see yours.
If you had 60 classic albums than your grading scale is to easy
I got shit for being too hard and leaving out a number of albums. Honestly, I think Hip-Hop's grading scale is too easy. People are like, they need 3 classics before they get GOAT conversations. Like seriously, 3 classics! Hip-Hop gives out classic labels too easy. Almost every mainstream rapper that is somewhat big gets a classic album. Maybe we need to stop using the word classic and start talking about how artist have their trademark album, or they have their own masterpiece album. Because the word classic gets thrown around a lot. Looking at the list, it's actually 58, I could take out a lot and be happy with the list, the more I think about it. Like here would be the list....
1. Kurtis Blow - Kurtis Blow - 1980
2. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five - The Message -1982
3. Wild Style Original Soundtrack - 1983
4. Run-DMC - Run DMC - 1984
5. Boogie Down Production - Criminal Minded - 1987
6. Eric B. & Rakim - Paid in Full - 1987
7. Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back - 1988
8. N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton - 1988
9. A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory - 1991
10. Dr. Dre - The Chronic - 1992
11. Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) - 1993
12. Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle - 1993
13. Nas - Illmatic - 1994
14. The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready to Die - 1994
15. 2Pac - Me Against the World - 1995
16. Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill - 1998
17. Dr. Dre - 2001 - 1999
18. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP - 2000
19. Jay-Z - The Blueprint - 2001
20. Nas - Stillmatic - 2001
21. Kanye West - College Dropout - 2004
22. Kendrick Lamar - Good Kid, m.A.A.d. City - 2012
23. Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly - 2015
Forget what I'm missing, what else can we cut.
To me, classic is only about quality of music .. Impact etc doesn't mean shit to me, because I don't give a shit what other people think. Most people are stupid as fuck. If it slaps front to back with no filler and I can play it every day of my life, it's a classic.
The what are classic albums to you. Like to me, I have Streetz Iz A Mutha as a personal and street classic. But I don't consider it a straight Hip-Hop classic because I can argue about it's weak points and weak songs. Like Represent That GC, which honestly is one of my favorite songs to listen to, even to this day, where he raps the same words over and over and has maybe the most simple bars I've heard from Kurupt. So to me, it's a solid album, but not really a classic.
Lol @ Kendrick having two classics but not dogg food, and not a single Bay Area album .... You're a funny guy.
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Bad Azz's first album was good but it wasn't a classic.
Classic to me
Soopafly first album too
I'd love to see your classics list. I wrote one, I was very tough, and I still had like 60 albums. And I didn't put in a lot of ones you thought I should, which would have put it at like 100. So I'd like to see yours.
If you had 60 classic albums than your grading scale is to easy
I got shit for being too hard and leaving out a number of albums. Honestly, I think Hip-Hop's grading scale is too easy. People are like, they need 3 classics before they get GOAT conversations. Like seriously, 3 classics! Hip-Hop gives out classic labels too easy. Almost every mainstream rapper that is somewhat big gets a classic album. Maybe we need to stop using the word classic and start talking about how artist have their trademark album, or they have their own masterpiece album. Because the word classic gets thrown around a lot. Looking at the list, it's actually 58, I could take out a lot and be happy with the list, the more I think about it. Like here would be the list....
1. Kurtis Blow - Kurtis Blow - 1980
2. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five - The Message -1982
3. Wild Style Original Soundtrack - 1983
4. Run-DMC - Run DMC - 1984
5. Boogie Down Production - Criminal Minded - 1987
6. Eric B. & Rakim - Paid in Full - 1987
7. Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back - 1988
8. N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton - 1988
9. A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory - 1991
10. Dr. Dre - The Chronic - 1992
11. Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) - 1993
12. Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle - 1993
13. Nas - Illmatic - 1994
14. The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready to Die - 1994
15. 2Pac - Me Against the World - 1995
16. Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill - 1998
17. Dr. Dre - 2001 - 1999
18. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP - 2000
19. Jay-Z - The Blueprint - 2001
20. Nas - Stillmatic - 2001
21. Kanye West - College Dropout - 2004
22. Kendrick Lamar - Good Kid, m.A.A.d. City - 2012
23. Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly - 2015
Forget what I'm missing, what else can we cut.
To me, classic is only about quality of music .. Impact etc doesn't mean shit to me, because I don't give a shit what other people think. Most people are stupid as fuck. If it slaps front to back with no filler and I can play it every day of my life, it's a classic.
The what are classic albums to you. Like to me, I have Streetz Iz A Mutha as a personal and street classic. But I don't consider it a straight Hip-Hop classic because I can argue about it's weak points and weak songs. Like Represent That GC, which honestly is one of my favorite songs to listen to, even to this day, where he raps the same words over and over and has maybe the most simple bars I've heard from Kurupt. So to me, it's a solid album, but not really a classic.
Lol @ Kendrick having two classics but not dogg food, and not a single Bay Area album .... You're a funny guy.
We can take off Kendrick if you want. As I said, I'm more for getting rid of classics, not adding them. In Hip Hop, the word classic is over played.
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Bad Azz's first album was good but it wasn't a classic.
Classic to me
Soopafly first album too
I'd love to see your classics list. I wrote one, I was very tough, and I still had like 60 albums. And I didn't put in a lot of ones you thought I should, which would have put it at like 100. So I'd like to see yours.
If you had 60 classic albums than your grading scale is to easy
I got shit for being too hard and leaving out a number of albums. Honestly, I think Hip-Hop's grading scale is too easy. People are like, they need 3 classics before they get GOAT conversations. Like seriously, 3 classics! Hip-Hop gives out classic labels too easy. Almost every mainstream rapper that is somewhat big gets a classic album. Maybe we need to stop using the word classic and start talking about how artist have their trademark album, or they have their own masterpiece album. Because the word classic gets thrown around a lot. Looking at the list, it's actually 58, I could take out a lot and be happy with the list, the more I think about it. Like here would be the list....
1. Kurtis Blow - Kurtis Blow - 1980
2. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five - The Message -1982
3. Wild Style Original Soundtrack - 1983
4. Run-DMC - Run DMC - 1984
5. Boogie Down Production - Criminal Minded - 1987
6. Eric B. & Rakim - Paid in Full - 1987
7. Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back - 1988
8. N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton - 1988
9. A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory - 1991
10. Dr. Dre - The Chronic - 1992
11. Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) - 1993
12. Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle - 1993
13. Nas - Illmatic - 1994
14. The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready to Die - 1994
15. 2Pac - Me Against the World - 1995
16. Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill - 1998
17. Dr. Dre - 2001 - 1999
18. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP - 2000
19. Jay-Z - The Blueprint - 2001
20. Nas - Stillmatic - 2001
21. Kanye West - College Dropout - 2004
22. Kendrick Lamar - Good Kid, m.A.A.d. City - 2012
23. Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly - 2015
Forget what I'm missing, what else can we cut.
To me, classic is only about quality of music .. Impact etc doesn't mean shit to me, because I don't give a shit what other people think. Most people are stupid as fuck. If it slaps front to back with no filler and I can play it every day of my life, it's a classic.
The what are classic albums to you. Like to me, I have Streetz Iz A Mutha as a personal and street classic. But I don't consider it a straight Hip-Hop classic because I can argue about it's weak points and weak songs. Like Represent That GC, which honestly is one of my favorite songs to listen to, even to this day, where he raps the same words over and over and has maybe the most simple bars I've heard from Kurupt. So to me, it's a solid album, but not really a classic.
Lol @ Kendrick having two classics but not dogg food, and not a single Bay Area album .... You're a funny guy.
We can take off Kendrick if you want. As I said, I'm more for getting rid of classics, not adding them. In Hip Hop, the word classic is over played.
A classic list without one bay album is a joke. Matter of fact, everything u got is either east or west .. this is almost as bad as when u said lebron could beat MJ 1-on-1
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The what are classic albums to you. Like to me, I have Streetz Iz A Mutha as a personal and street classic. But I don't consider it a straight Hip-Hop classic because I can argue about it's weak points and weak songs. Like Represent That GC, which honestly is one of my favorite songs to listen to, even to this day, where he raps the same words over and over and has maybe the most simple bars I've heard from Kurupt. So to me, it's a solid album, but not really a classic.
Yeah "Represent" is fuckin dope.. Especially for you Cali peeps.... And I'd take his "Man what a day/ Sunny Cali-forn-I-A--Bitch Bitch Bitch" lines from that one over the "Homeboy, homeboy, homeboy repitition on "Neva Gone Give It Up"--you know Nate makes "Neva Gonna Give It Up" a banger because in spite of the All-Star cast the lyrics are underwhelming
As for your list I kind of did think it was mostly accurate in an objective sense. I like that you had Wild Style on there cause I think that was one of the great and important moments in hip-hop's early days. Really captures all that was great about the early days.
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A classic list without one bay album.
I Zalute you M-Dogg! Always knew you had good taste
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A classic list without one bay album.
I Zalute you M-Dogg! Always knew you had good taste
he put 2 kendrick albums and not Dogg food or regulate.....even your dumbass can laugh at that
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A classic list without one bay album.
I Zalute you M-Dogg! Always knew you had good taste
he put 2 kendrick albums and not Dogg food or regulate.....even your dumbass can laugh at that
Even though I like Dogg Food and Regulate G Funk Era way better, it terms of impact, both Kendrick solos defined a new era of good Hip-Hop
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A classic list without one bay album.
I Zalute you M-Dogg! Always knew you had good taste
he put 2 kendrick albums and not Dogg food or regulate.....even your dumbass can laugh at that
Even though I like Dogg Food and Regulate G Funk Era way better, it terms of impact, both Kendrick solos defined a new era of good Hip-Hop
lol regulate helped define g-funk, the staple sound during the golden era of hip-hop....dogg food was pivotal in the east/west beef, knocking them buildins down in the ny ny video, that album was monumental for the coast n helped set shit on fire. kendrick lamar is dope, but his shit don't compare.
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A classic list without one bay album.
I Zalute you M-Dogg! Always knew you had good taste
he put 2 kendrick albums and not Dogg food or regulate.....even your dumbass can laugh at that
Damn MDogg what the fuck?? You makin me eat my words with Sccit...
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A classic list without one bay album.
I Zalute you M-Dogg! Always knew you had good taste
he put 2 kendrick albums and not Dogg food or regulate.....even your dumbass can laugh at that
Even though I like Dogg Food and Regulate G Funk Era way better, it terms of impact, both Kendrick solos defined a new era of good Hip-Hop
lol regulate helped define g-funk, the staple sound during the golden era of hip-hop....dogg food was pivotal in the east/west beef, knocking them buildins down in the ny ny video, that album was monumental for the coast n helped set shit on fire. kendrick lamar is dope, but his shit don't compare.
and pretty much their Career highlight which was over 20 years ago :laugh:
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A classic list without one bay album.
I Zalute you M-Dogg! Always knew you had good taste
he put 2 kendrick albums and not Dogg food or regulate.....even your dumbass can laugh at that
Damn MDogg what the fuck?? You makin me eat my words with Sccit...
So now no Kendrick. Dogg Food is not classic, New York, New York as a track is. Regulate... maybe... Along with Life is Too $hort.
Sccit, give me a list of ALL the albums I'm missing. All of them.
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A classic list without one bay album.
I Zalute you M-Dogg! Always knew you had good taste
he put 2 kendrick albums and not Dogg food or regulate.....even your dumbass can laugh at that
Even though I like Dogg Food and Regulate G Funk Era way better, it terms of impact, both Kendrick solos defined a new era of good Hip-Hop
lol regulate helped define g-funk
No The Chronic did
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A classic list without one bay album.
I Zalute you M-Dogg! Always knew you had good taste
he put 2 kendrick albums and not Dogg food or regulate.....even your dumbass can laugh at that
Even though I like Dogg Food and Regulate G Funk Era way better, it terms of impact, both Kendrick solos defined a new era of good Hip-Hop
lol regulate helped define g-funk, the staple sound during the golden era of hip-hop....dogg food was pivotal in the east/west beef, knocking them buildins down in the ny ny video, that album was monumental for the coast n helped set shit on fire. kendrick lamar is dope, but his shit don't compare.
Agree with you on Regulate, that album should be considered a classic.
Don't get me wrong, Dogg Food is an awesome album, but I don't think it's a classic. As much as I wish it was, I just don't see it. I bought that album the day it came out, and it did not give off the vibe to me of igniting an eastcoast/westcoast beef. Before the video for NY, NY came out, it didn't seem like a dis song to me at all. All Eyez On Me was the first release I really noticed putting a line in the sand between coasts.
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A classic list without one bay album.
I Zalute you M-Dogg! Always knew you had good taste
he put 2 kendrick albums and not Dogg food or regulate.....even your dumbass can laugh at that
Even though I like Dogg Food and Regulate G Funk Era way better, it terms of impact, both Kendrick solos defined a new era of good Hip-Hop
lol regulate helped define g-funk
No The Chronic did
The chronic is a completely different sound than regulate
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A classic list without one bay album.
I Zalute you M-Dogg! Always knew you had good taste
he put 2 kendrick albums and not Dogg food or regulate.....even your dumbass can laugh at that
Even though I like Dogg Food and Regulate G Funk Era way better, it terms of impact, both Kendrick solos defined a new era of good Hip-Hop
lol regulate helped define g-funk
No The Chronic did
The chronic is a completely different sound than regulate
I agree but to me Chronic defined the genre, Regulate perfected it to the sound we all know and like imo
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A classic list without one bay album.
I Zalute you M-Dogg! Always knew you had good taste
he put 2 kendrick albums and not Dogg food or regulate.....even your dumbass can laugh at that
Even though I like Dogg Food and Regulate G Funk Era way better, it terms of impact, both Kendrick solos defined a new era of good Hip-Hop
lol regulate helped define g-funk
No The Chronic did
The chronic is a completely different sound than regulate
I agree but to me Chronic defined the genre, Regulate perfected it to the sound we all know and like imo
Yup .. That's why I said it HELPED define g-funk
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Yes, Streetz is a certified classic. Really not one bad song on there and stuck to a concept the whole way through.
It's curse was timing, coming out the same day as Chronic 2001. But make no mistake, EVERY single rap fan in Cali, even ones who weren't big on Dogg Pound, were knocking Streetz iz A Mutha for a solid 2 years after it came out. Whether the masses choose to acknowledge it or not, this album helped define that late 90's/early 2000's West coast era.
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The what are classic albums to you. Like to me, I have Streetz Iz A Mutha as a personal and street classic. But I don't consider it a straight Hip-Hop classic because I can argue about it's weak points and weak songs. Like Represent That GC, which honestly is one of my favorite songs to listen to, even to this day, where he raps the same words over and over and has maybe the most simple bars I've heard from Kurupt. So to me, it's a solid album, but not really a classic.
Yeah "Represent" is fuckin dope.. Especially for you Cali peeps.... And I'd take his "Man what a day/ Sunny Cali-forn-I-A--Bitch Bitch Bitch" lines from that one over the "Homeboy, homeboy, homeboy repitition on "Neva Gone Give It Up"--you know Nate makes "Neva Gonna Give It Up" a banger because in spite of the All-Star cast the lyrics are underwhelming
As for your list I kind of did think it was mostly accurate in an objective sense. I like that you had Wild Style on there cause I think that was one of the great and important moments in hip-hop's early days. Really captures all that was great about the early days.
u r a RACA
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Yes, Streetz is a certified classic. Really not one bad song on there and stuck to a concept the whole way through.
It's curse was timing, coming out the same day as Chronic 2001. But make no mistake, EVERY single rap fan in Cali, even ones who weren't big on Dogg Pound, were knocking Streetz iz A Mutha for a solid 2 years after it came out. Whether the masses choose to acknowledge it or not, this album helped define that late 90's/early 2000's West coast era.
True
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Its a good album, but jesus christ infnite still claiming that what ever albums ass he's got his tongue up this week is a forgotten classic.
btw the inclusion of Kendrick Lamar in m doggs list is a shame.. the rest was fairly on point but two recent (in the scheme of the list) albums from the same guy.. when 2pac, for example.. doesn't get all eyez on me... which IS a (flawed) classic.. IMO..
a classic has to be a 360 degree thing. great album, sold well, did well in the mainstream consciousness, was for men and women and worldwide... etc.. streetz aint that (and neither is Kendrick Lamar )
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Its a good album, but jesus christ infnite still claiming that what ever albums ass he's got his tongue up this week is a forgotten classic.
btw the inclusion of Kendrick Lamar in m doggs list is a shame.. the rest was fairly on point but two recent (in the scheme of the list) albums from the same guy.. when 2pac, for example.. doesn't get all eyez on me... which IS a (flawed) classic.. IMO..
a classic has to be a 360 degree thing. great album, sold well, did well in the mainstream consciousness, was for men and women and worldwide... etc.. streetz aint that (and neither is Kendrick Lamar )
I actually have a list of 58, which I'm about to expand to 60, that's "more inclusive" and has more "classics'. I just put this one up, taking out the ones I thought were flawed classics and only focusing on works that I think are pure classics. Also, it pisses off Sccit, and if it's one thing I've learned in 15 years, it's how to piss of Sccit. Dude is almost 30 and still gets pissed off easily.
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Its a good album, but jesus christ infnite still claiming that what ever albums ass he's got his tongue up this week is a forgotten classic.
btw the inclusion of Kendrick Lamar in m doggs list is a shame.. the rest was fairly on point but two recent (in the scheme of the list) albums from the same guy.. when 2pac, for example.. doesn't get all eyez on me... which IS a (flawed) classic.. IMO..
a classic has to be a 360 degree thing. great album, sold well, did well in the mainstream consciousness, was for men and women and worldwide... etc.. streetz aint that (and neither is Kendrick Lamar )
I actually have a list of 58, which I'm about to expand to 60, that's "more inclusive" and has more "classics'. I just put this one up, taking out the ones I thought were flawed classics and only focusing on works that I think are pure classics. Also, it pisses off Sccit, and if it's one thing I've learned in 15 years, it's how to piss of Sccit. Dude is almost 30 and still gets pissed off easily.
I duno who told you that making people think you an idiot means you pissing them off, but they lied homie.
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Bad Azz's first album was good but it wasn't a classic.
Classic to me
Soopafly first album too
I'd love to see your classics list. I wrote one, I was very tough, and I still had like 60 albums. And I didn't put in a lot of ones you thought I should, which would have put it at like 100. So I'd like to see yours.
If you had 60 classic albums than your grading scale is to easy
I got shit for being too hard and leaving out a number of albums. Honestly, I think Hip-Hop's grading scale is too easy. People are like, they need 3 classics before they get GOAT conversations. Like seriously, 3 classics! Hip-Hop gives out classic labels too easy. Almost every mainstream rapper that is somewhat big gets a classic album. Maybe we need to stop using the word classic and start talking about how artist have their trademark album, or they have their own masterpiece album. Because the word classic gets thrown around a lot. Looking at the list, it's actually 58, I could take out a lot and be happy with the list, the more I think about it. Like here would be the list....
1. Kurtis Blow - Kurtis Blow - 1980
2. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five - The Message -1982
3. Wild Style Original Soundtrack - 1983
4. Run-DMC - Run DMC - 1984
5. Boogie Down Production - Criminal Minded - 1987
6. Eric B. & Rakim - Paid in Full - 1987
7. Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back - 1988
8. N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton - 1988
9. A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory - 1991
10. Dr. Dre - The Chronic - 1992
11. Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) - 1993
12. Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle - 1993
13. Nas - Illmatic - 1994
14. The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready to Die - 1994
15. 2Pac - Me Against the World - 1995
16. Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill - 1998
17. Dr. Dre - 2001 - 1999
18. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP - 2000
19. Jay-Z - The Blueprint - 2001
20. Nas - Stillmatic - 2001
21. Kanye West - College Dropout - 2004
22. Kendrick Lamar - Good Kid, m.A.A.d. City - 2012
23. Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly - 2015
Forget what I'm missing, what else can we cut.
To me, classic is only about quality of music .. Impact etc doesn't mean shit to me, because I don't give a shit what other people think. Most people are stupid as fuck. If it slaps front to back with no filler and I can play it every day of my life, it's a classic.
The what are classic albums to you. Like to me, I have Streetz Iz A Mutha as a personal and street classic. But I don't consider it a straight Hip-Hop classic because I can argue about it's weak points and weak songs. Like Represent That GC, which honestly is one of my favorite songs to listen to, even to this day, where he raps the same words over and over and has maybe the most simple bars I've heard from Kurupt. So to me, it's a solid album, but not really a classic.
Lol @ Kendrick having two classics but not dogg food, and not a single Bay Area album .... You're a funny guy.
no South albums either lol I mean we're all entitled to our own opinions and in my opinion that list is basically the same cliche list you would see on Rollingstone or Complex but it's all good
basically Too $hort, E-40, OutKast, UGK, Scarface, Geto Boys, Three 6 Mafia, etc. don't have any classics then :laugh:
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Bad Azz's first album was good but it wasn't a classic.
Classic to me
Soopafly first album too
I'd love to see your classics list. I wrote one, I was very tough, and I still had like 60 albums. And I didn't put in a lot of ones you thought I should, which would have put it at like 100. So I'd like to see yours.
If you had 60 classic albums than your grading scale is to easy
I got shit for being too hard and leaving out a number of albums. Honestly, I think Hip-Hop's grading scale is too easy. People are like, they need 3 classics before they get GOAT conversations. Like seriously, 3 classics! Hip-Hop gives out classic labels too easy. Almost every mainstream rapper that is somewhat big gets a classic album. Maybe we need to stop using the word classic and start talking about how artist have their trademark album, or they have their own masterpiece album. Because the word classic gets thrown around a lot. Looking at the list, it's actually 58, I could take out a lot and be happy with the list, the more I think about it. Like here would be the list....
1. Kurtis Blow - Kurtis Blow - 1980
2. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five - The Message -1982
3. Wild Style Original Soundtrack - 1983
4. Run-DMC - Run DMC - 1984
5. Boogie Down Production - Criminal Minded - 1987
6. Eric B. & Rakim - Paid in Full - 1987
7. Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back - 1988
8. N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton - 1988
9. A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory - 1991
10. Dr. Dre - The Chronic - 1992
11. Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) - 1993
12. Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle - 1993
13. Nas - Illmatic - 1994
14. The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready to Die - 1994
15. 2Pac - Me Against the World - 1995
16. Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill - 1998
17. Dr. Dre - 2001 - 1999
18. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP - 2000
19. Jay-Z - The Blueprint - 2001
20. Nas - Stillmatic - 2001
21. Kanye West - College Dropout - 2004
22. Kendrick Lamar - Good Kid, m.A.A.d. City - 2012
23. Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly - 2015
Forget what I'm missing, what else can we cut.
To me, classic is only about quality of music .. Impact etc doesn't mean shit to me, because I don't give a shit what other people think. Most people are stupid as fuck. If it slaps front to back with no filler and I can play it every day of my life, it's a classic.
The what are classic albums to you. Like to me, I have Streetz Iz A Mutha as a personal and street classic. But I don't consider it a straight Hip-Hop classic because I can argue about it's weak points and weak songs. Like Represent That GC, which honestly is one of my favorite songs to listen to, even to this day, where he raps the same words over and over and has maybe the most simple bars I've heard from Kurupt. So to me, it's a solid album, but not really a classic.
Lol @ Kendrick having two classics but not dogg food, and not a single Bay Area album .... You're a funny guy.
no South albums either lol I mean we're all entitled to our own opinions and in my opinion that list is basically the same cliche list you would see on Rollingstone or Complex but it's all good
basically Too $hort, E-40, OutKast, UGK, Scarface, Geto Boys, Three 6 Mafia, etc. don't have any classics then :laugh:
I put my big list and I got critized for some southern albums. I'm going to update my big list and repost that.
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Bad Azz's first album was good but it wasn't a classic.
Classic to me
Soopafly first album too
I'd love to see your classics list. I wrote one, I was very tough, and I still had like 60 albums. And I didn't put in a lot of ones you thought I should, which would have put it at like 100. So I'd like to see yours.
If you had 60 classic albums than your grading scale is to easy
I got shit for being too hard and leaving out a number of albums. Honestly, I think Hip-Hop's grading scale is too easy. People are like, they need 3 classics before they get GOAT conversations. Like seriously, 3 classics! Hip-Hop gives out classic labels too easy. Almost every mainstream rapper that is somewhat big gets a classic album. Maybe we need to stop using the word classic and start talking about how artist have their trademark album, or they have their own masterpiece album. Because the word classic gets thrown around a lot. Looking at the list, it's actually 58, I could take out a lot and be happy with the list, the more I think about it. Like here would be the list....
1. Kurtis Blow - Kurtis Blow - 1980
2. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five - The Message -1982
3. Wild Style Original Soundtrack - 1983
4. Run-DMC - Run DMC - 1984
5. Boogie Down Production - Criminal Minded - 1987
6. Eric B. & Rakim - Paid in Full - 1987
7. Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back - 1988
8. N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton - 1988
9. A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory - 1991
10. Dr. Dre - The Chronic - 1992
11. Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) - 1993
12. Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle - 1993
13. Nas - Illmatic - 1994
14. The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready to Die - 1994
15. 2Pac - Me Against the World - 1995
16. Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill - 1998
17. Dr. Dre - 2001 - 1999
18. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP - 2000
19. Jay-Z - The Blueprint - 2001
20. Nas - Stillmatic - 2001
21. Kanye West - College Dropout - 2004
22. Kendrick Lamar - Good Kid, m.A.A.d. City - 2012
23. Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly - 2015
Forget what I'm missing, what else can we cut.
To me, classic is only about quality of music .. Impact etc doesn't mean shit to me, because I don't give a shit what other people think. Most people are stupid as fuck. If it slaps front to back with no filler and I can play it every day of my life, it's a classic.
The what are classic albums to you. Like to me, I have Streetz Iz A Mutha as a personal and street classic. But I don't consider it a straight Hip-Hop classic because I can argue about it's weak points and weak songs. Like Represent That GC, which honestly is one of my favorite songs to listen to, even to this day, where he raps the same words over and over and has maybe the most simple bars I've heard from Kurupt. So to me, it's a solid album, but not really a classic.
Lol @ Kendrick having two classics but not dogg food, and not a single Bay Area album .... You're a funny guy.
no South albums either lol I mean we're all entitled to our own opinions and in my opinion that list is basically the same cliche list you would see on Rollingstone or Complex but it's all good
basically Too $hort, E-40, OutKast, UGK, Scarface, Geto Boys, Three 6 Mafia, etc. don't have any classics then :laugh:
I put my big list and I got critized for some southern albums. I'm going to update my big list and repost that.
I actually might recall that, but shame on whoever was critical of an album just based off it being Southern... if I had any debate maybe you said for example one Geto Boys album was a classic where I felt a different album from them was
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Here's the large list, with album covers. LOL Not arguments people have on Outkast and Geto Boys. But they didn't like Wayne. I personally didn't either, but it changed the game and all over the radio these mumble rappers try to be like him. The Carter III changed the game.
Kurtis Blow - Kurtis Blow - 1980
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Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five - The Message -1982
(http://www.whosampled.com/static/track_images_200/lr2_2008114_121356258905.jpg)
Wild Style Original Soundtrack - 1983
(http://i43.tower.com/images/mm106728508/wild-style-original-soundtrack-cassette-cover-art.jpg)
Run-DMC - Run DMC - 1984
(http://images2.mtv.com/shared/media/images/amg_covers/200/drg900/g997/g99721supb6.jpg?width=200&height=200&enlarge=false&matte=true&matteColor=black&quality=0.85)
LL Cool J - Radio - 1985
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-R2Rccil80AU/TvE1RKI1rfI/AAAAAAAAAIc/jbLU7YmMncY/s200/radio.jpg)
Run-DMC - Raising Hell - 1986
(http://gfx.dlastudenta.pl/photos/muzyka/artysci/r/run_dmc/plyty/raising_hell.jpg)
Boogie Down Production - Criminal Minded - 1987
(http://www.sputnikmusic.com/images/albums/19363.jpg)
Eric B. & Rakim - Paid in Full - 1987
(http://www.whosampled.com/static/track_images_200/lr60124_2015128_15168590250.jpg)
Slick Rick - The Great Adventures of Slick Rick - 1988
(http://rs85.pbsrc.com/albums/k52/wahoocoloyan/414054_170x170.jpg~c200)
EPMD - Strictly Business -1988
(http://images.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/drv000/v058/v05833ecvlg.jpg)
Big Daddy Kane - Long Live the Kane - 1988
(https://www.recordshopx.com/cover/normal/1/19/199128.jpg?cd)
Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back - 1988
(http://media0.giphy.com/media/CGx4Kz0msPuHS/200_s.gif)
N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton - 1988
(http://images.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/drc400/c440/c44046410gv.jpg)
Eazy-E - Eazy Does It - 1988
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Q7tKKY4b10o/T_dlQaAjNpI/AAAAAAAAAXk/bet-gMdMIWY/s200/L.jpg)
Ultramagnetic MC's - Critical Beatdown -1988
(https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000016104630-x9883p-t200x200.jpg?debc7fd)
Boogie Down Productions - By All Means Necessary - 1988
(http://www.sputnikmusic.com/images/albums/20703.jpg)
De La Soul - 3 Feel High and Rising - 1989
(http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/album_review/d5136218767c44867b14e41e0453bbf4170bbb27.jpg)
D.O.C. - No One Can Do It Better - 1989
(http://images.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/drc400/c488/c48820e27dx.jpg)
Too $Hort - Life is Too $hort - 1989
(http://www.thelyricarchive.com/img/pic/13501-14000/13926/album-120254)
Geto Boys - Grip It! On That Other Level - 1989
(http://www.whosampled.com/static/track_images_200/lr2929_2010106_134621678.jpg)
Jungle Brothers - Done by the Forces of Nature - 1989
(http://cdn-images.deezer.com/images/cover/53c97d286a2a48e73d506d8936ef1f5c/200x200-000000-80-0-0.jpg)
Public Enemy - Fear of a Black Planet -1990
(http://www.billboard.com/files/styles/promo_650/public/stylus/105810-Public-Enemy-Fear-Of-A-Black-Planet.jpg)
A Tribe Called Quest - People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm -1990
(http://www.sputnikmusic.com/images/albums/60406.jpg)
Ice Cube - AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted - 1990
(https://timeisillmatic.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/amerikkkas_most_wanted_ice_cube.jpg)
DJ Quik - Quik Is the Name - 1991
(http://medias.2kmusic.com/uploads/siteposts/post-3648-1128421826.jpg)
A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory - 1991
(http://rs30.pbsrc.com/albums/c332/cenzi/lowend.gif~c200)
Ice Cube - Death Certificate 1991
(http://images.popmatters.com/music_cover_art/i/ice_cube1.jpg)
Redman - Whut? Thee Album - 1992
(http://www.sputnikmusic.com/images/albums/43855.jpg)
The Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde - 1992
(https://artwork-cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/037/611/0003761182_200.jpg)
Pete Rock & CL Smooth - Mecca and the Soul Brother - 1992
(http://cdn-images.deezer.com/images/cover/fdc03196f096aee6777abd332587f064/200x200-000000-80-0-0.jpg)
Dr. Dre - The Chronic - 1992
(http://rs378.pbsrc.com/albums/oo228/John_T_123/DrDreTheChronic.jpg~c200)
Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) - 1993
(http://is5.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Music7/v4/4d/51/3c/4d513c1b-a258-e51a-c770-cdc48d5bcba1/source/200x200bb.png)
Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle - 1993
(http://i1.cdnds.net/13/47/200x200/snoop-doggystyle.jpg)
Nas - Illmatic - 1994
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XGxmxZCUKHc/TiKABW4pgPI/AAAAAAAAA2A/LjBMS3Cbq54/s200/NasIllmatic.jpg)
Scarface - The Diary - 1994
(http://www.whosampled.com/static/track_images_200/lr91593_20131016_172627872230.jpg)
The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready to Die - 1994
(http://www.90s411.com/images/notorious-big-ready-to-die-album.jpg)
Warren G - Regulate... the G-Funk Era
(http://www.sputnikmusic.com/images/albums/41957.jpg)
OutKast - Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik - 1994
(http://images.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/drd100/d134/d13436bg0wb.jpg)
Chef Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... - 1995
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4chJL00Sz5M/Sx9nR9UxOhI/AAAAAAAAAM0/YRvFEnzbly4/s200/Raekwon_only.jpg)
Mobb Deep - The Infamous - 1995
(http://cdn-images.deezer.com/images/cover/c8354ffae075dd682622a8d0125444fa/200x200-000000-80-0-0.jpg)
2Pac - Me Against the World - 1995
(http://www.90s411.com/images/2pac-me-against-the-world-album.jpg)
2Pac - All Eyez On Me - 1996
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_F3ZIPXEUK6k/Sl9iL415LbI/AAAAAAAAA2c/bBj2DB13GeQ/s200/2Pac-All_Eyez_On_Me-Frontal.jpg)
Makaveli - The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory - 1996
(http://www.azclub.narod.ru/files/album6.gif)
Fugees - The Score - 1996
(http://www.whosampled.com/static/track_images_200/lr182_2008121_61630859449.jpg)
The Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death - 1997
(http://images.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/drn600/n641/n64143tygy7.jpg)
Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill - 1998
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vHBJPirahBg/VdbvG3rvsYI/AAAAAAABno8/5ZJ-kdMVdKM/w200-h200-c/slyric.com-the-miseducation-of-lauryn-hill.jpg)
OutKast - Aquemini - 1998
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-c8EXAvrc5xo/VXe0pAEzEhI/AAAAAAAABHE/4SLYnnDT6lc/s200/Outkast-Aquemini.jpeg)
The Roots - Things Fall Apart - 1999
(http://www.whosampled.com/static/track_images_200/lr613_2009113_0191660191.jpg)
Dr. Dre - 2001 - 1999
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sSN3wtPfe1I/T4BzrHtZHCI/AAAAAAAAAHY/BQqOijxFnA0/s200/Dr._Dre_-_2001.jpg)
Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP - 2000
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/pt/archive/a/ae/20130313045905!The_Marshall_Mathers_LP.jpg)
Jay-Z - The Blueprint - 2001
(http://is3.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Music62/v4/cb/7c/57/cb7c57c8-8c5c-6792-7df5-abf8be86fba9/source/200x200bb.png)
Nas - Stillmatic - 2001
(http://www.sputnikmusic.com/images/albums/7541.jpg)
Eminem - The Eminem Show - 2002
(http://medias.2kmusic.com/uploads/siteposts/post-3283-1133721214.jpg)
Kanye West - College Dropout - 2004
(https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-thumb-t-191413-200-pW5ZwPlgDTp8rwo9Ps54MxXVhF3Mx2Aq.jpeg)
Common - Be - 2005
(http://medias.2kmusic.com/uploads/siteposts/post-3648-1118317766.jpg)
Clipse - Hell Hath No Fury - 2006
(http://www.gutsofdarkness.com/images/pochettes_200/7046_15548.jpg)
Lil' Wayne - The Carter III - 2008 (I threw up a little bit in my mouth, but it set the tone for most modern hip-hop)
(http://cdn-images.deezer.com/images/cover/d3bd43afa8dac6d1aa35cf77818fdf24/200x200-000000-80-0-0.jpg)
Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy - 2010
(https://muzikum.eu/en/128-6334-31954/kanye-west/images/muzikum/kanye-west/cds/my-beautiful-dark-twisted-fantasy_175x175.png)
Kendrick Lamar - Good Kid, m.A.A.d. City - 2012
(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/theboombox.com/files/2012/10/kendrick-lamar-200-10212.jpg)
Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly - 2015
(http://images.popmatters.com/music_cover_art/k/kendrick_lamar_-_to_pimp_a_butterfly.jpg)
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musically I will never ever acknowledge Carter III as a classic because there were most definitely a handful of garbage tracks that I skipped back then and still do now, but in terms of impact I hate to agree with you lol Carter 1 and II >>> though
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It's still a garbage list lol .. Like bloodmoney said, some generic list you would see on complex
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It's still a garbage list lol .. Like bloodmoney said, some generic list you would see on complex
I challenge you to make yours. You wouldn't, because you have no opinions. Just hate.
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It's still a garbage list lol .. Like bloodmoney said, some generic list you would see on complex
I challenge you to make yours. You wouldn't, because you have no opinions. Just hate.
I'm not hating, that actually IS my opinion....and now you mad, when u claim u were the one tryna make me mad just a few posts up lolsmh.
it's guna take me a full working day to come up with a list fulla hip-hop classics. no way Jose.
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musically I will never ever acknowledge Carter III as a classic because there were most definitely a handful of garbage tracks that I skipped back then and still do now, but in terms of impact I hate to agree with you lol Carter 1 and II >>> though
I like II myself. LOL. But it's got too many tracks and some of them bring the album down. III had a LOT of singles, and a LOT of garbage. But it basically created that mumble rap shit that's still here 9 years later, mainly because Wayne was too high of syzurp to even rap correctly.
It's still a garbage list lol .. Like bloodmoney said, some generic list you would see on complex
I challenge you to make yours. You wouldn't, because you have no opinions. Just hate.
I'm not hating, that actually IS my opinion....and now you mad, when u claim u were the one tryna make me mad just a few posts up lolsmh.
it's guna take me a full working day to come up with a list fulla hip-hop classics. no way Jose.
IF I WAS MAD I'D TYPE IN CAPS LOCK LIKE YOU. LMAO.
Nah homie, I'm just challenging you because I did take time. I took that time to create a list. I actually did it for myself, because I want to start to collect these on vinyl. I was going to start to order, and buy each one and create a collection of the greatest hip-hop albums of all time. Once I was done, I thought, hey, this is some shit I should throw up on DubCC because why the fuck not? It creates conversation, debate, controversy.
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It's still a garbage list lol .. Like bloodmoney said, some generic list you would see on complex
Got to go with my x-homie Sccit on this one.... MDogg your list is too generic like something out of a Complex magazine. Like... "Oh I can't put Slim Shady LP because I already have two other Eminem albums and then I wouldn't look critical enough, and I have to be fair and put Lil Wayne on there..." and still how can you leave G Funk Era and Dogg Food off? Overall it's not a bad list and appreciate the covers to go with it...
...and actually Sccit's would probably be worse if he posted it all out with pics like MDogg did, it would have B list/3rd rate artists like Brotha Lynch and X-Raided on there and probably his friend Roccy ;D
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musically I will never ever acknowledge Carter III as a classic because there were most definitely a handful of garbage tracks that I skipped back then and still do now, but in terms of impact I hate to agree with you lol Carter 1 and II >>> though
I like II myself. LOL. But it's got too many tracks and some of them bring the album down. III had a LOT of singles, and a LOT of garbage. But it basically created that mumble rap shit that's still here 9 years later, mainly because Wayne was too high of syzurp to even rap correctly.
It's still a garbage list lol .. Like bloodmoney said, some generic list you would see on complex
I challenge you to make yours. You wouldn't, because you have no opinions. Just hate.
I'm not hating, that actually IS my opinion....and now you mad, when u claim u were the one tryna make me mad just a few posts up lolsmh.
it's guna take me a full working day to come up with a list fulla hip-hop classics. no way Jose.
IF I WAS MAD I'D TYPE IN CAPS LOCK LIKE YOU. LMAO.
Nah homie, I'm just challenging you because I did take time. I took that time to create a list. I actually did it for myself, because I want to start to collect these on vinyl. I was going to start to order, and buy each one and create a collection of the greatest hip-hop albums of all time. Once I was done, I thought, hey, this is some shit I should throw up on DubCC because why the fuck not? It creates conversation, debate, controversy.
lil wayne album a classic for starting the worst era in rap? great logic u got there
I DONT TYPE IN CAPS LOCK TO CONVEY EMOTION. I TYPE IN CAPS LOCK BECAUSE IT GETS OTHERS IN THEY EMOTIONS.
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props on making a list tho, even if it does suck
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It's still a garbage list lol .. Like bloodmoney said, some generic list you would see on complex
Got to go with my x-homie Sccit on this one.... MDogg your list is too generic like something out of a Complex magazine. Like... "Oh I can't put Slim Shady LP because I already have two other Eminem albums and then I wouldn't look critical enough, and I have to be fair and put Lil Wayne on there..." and still how can you leave G Funk Era and Dogg Food off? Overall it's not a bad list and appreciate the covers to go with it...
...and actually Sccit's would probably be worse if he posted it all out with pics like MDogg did, it would have B list/3rd rate artists like Brotha Lynch and X-Raided on there and probably his friend Roccy ;D
I might have brotha lynch & x-raided in there, but I damn sure wouldn't have lil wayne, and I damn sure wouldn't list 2 kendrick albums over undisputed classics like efil4zaffin and dogg food.
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Haha, you all are proving my original point. In Hip Hop the word classic gets thrown around to much. The word classic is makes in Hip Hop. I post sixty sounds, and then, what about this, what about that? Then you take an album it like Wayne, but then you go, will it makes sense because to be fair to that horrible style of rap everyone has been doing for 9 fucking years. Take out Kendrick, but I'd argue Chronic was a classic in one year, and both K Dot's albums are the critical successes of this horrible era.
Bottom line, the word classic gets thrown around Hip Hop too damn much. There are no Hip Hop classics. The weird should only be used for at most 10 albums. That would be if, Run DMC, Paid in Full, Criminal Minded, Straight Outta Compton, Chronic, Illmatic, Me Against the World, Ready to Die, maybe Blueprint, maybe something else. But the world classic gets thrown around too much, look at my post before I start listing stuff. My "generic" list started as a vinyl list for my personal self, then thought I'd share it a couple years ago to create some conversation and controversy. To me, the list was trying to capture different Hip Hop essential albums. Like you HAVE to own these albums to understand the diversity of Hip Hop. Even Lil' Wayne. But classics, there are only so many classics, it's a watered down word we get mad when someone doesn't think our favorite album isn't 5 mic worthy.
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Haha, you all are proving my original point. In Hip Hop the word classic gets thrown around to much. The word classic is makes in Hip Hop. I post sixty sounds, and then, what about this, what about that? Then you take an album it like Wayne, but then you go, will it makes sense because to be fair to that horrible style of rap everyone has been doing for 9 fucking years. Take out Kendrick, but I'd argue Chronic was a classic in one year, and both K Dot's albums are the critical successes of this horrible era.
Bottom line, the word classic gets thrown around Hip Hop too damn much. There are no Hip Hop classics. The weird should only be used for at most 10 albums. That would be if, Run DMC, Paid in Full, Criminal Minded, Straight Outta Compton, Chronic, Illmatic, Me Against the World, Ready to Die, maybe Blueprint, maybe something else. But the world classic gets thrown around too much, look at my post before I start listing stuff. My "generic" list started as a vinyl list for my personal self, then thought I'd share it a couple years ago to create some conversation and controversy. To me, the list was trying to capture different Hip Hop essential albums. Like you HAVE to own these albums to understand the diversity of Hip Hop. Even Lil' Wayne. But classics, there are only so many classics, it's a watered down word we get mad when someone doesn't think our favorite album isn't 5 mic worthy.
classic is a vague term...what may be classic to u could be trash to some1 else. like I said originally, to me, the term classic defines quality of work. if an album can bump front to back and has nothin but great music, thats a classic, I don't care if it sold 10 copies or 10 million copies. it's all about the quality. dubee's debut album is a classic to me (and pretty much any hip-hop fan who fux wit bay rap)...but u prolly never even heard it.
but what really fux me up is that u named an album that you just said started a garbage era of hip-hop and u called it a classic. u literally said that lil wayne was too high off of syrup to rap good, but because the dumbass hipster fags made it popular, it's now a hip-hop classic. u are basically the epitome of a sheep g.
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Because a lot of people thought it was so good that they try to recreate it. It started something that I may not understand, or even like, but you can't deny that others like it. To not understand that it created a movement is to be stubborn. So it was thrown into my list, because it's an essential Hip Hop album.
Since originally making the list myself, I switched what classic makes to me. To me we over use the word classic. Years ago I'd call my list classics, now I only use that word for lack of a better word. I'd say there are only like 10 real classics, the rest are great albums, masterpieces, whatever you want to call them. But I think of it like this, if I had to pick albums to put in the library of Congress to document Hip Hop, and I only had 10, what would I pick? Maybe it's 9, maybe I'd need 11 or 12. But the word classic has to be toned down, because you can't have 100 classic albums.
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classic, street classic, underground classic, personal classic are all one in the same when it comes down to it, some people might only have a dozen albums they would call classic others may have a hundred lol I know if I came up with a list of every album (even outside rap) that I would consider classic in any sense of the word I'd be typing for a day... but I can dig what you're saying about if you had to narrow a list for the library of Congress to represent the genre lol probably have to give them at least 50
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Because a lot of people thought it was so good that they try to recreate it. It started something that I may not understand, or even like, but you can't deny that others like it. To not understand that it created a movement is to be stubborn. So it was thrown into my list, because it's an essential Hip Hop album.
Since originally making the list myself, I switched what classic makes to me. To me we over use the word classic. Years ago I'd call my list classics, now I only use that word for lack of a better word. I'd say there are only like 10 real classics, the rest are great albums, masterpieces, whatever you want to call them. But I think of it like this, if I had to pick albums to put in the library of Congress to document Hip Hop, and I only had 10, what would I pick? Maybe it's 9, maybe I'd need 11 or 12. But the word classic has to be toned down, because you can't have 100 classic albums.
so because others like it, it's classic....just like I said, sheep mentality. basically, if the general consensus told u that a piece of shit wrapped in plastic was classic, you'd be inclined to agree.
cmon now
clas·sic
ˈklasik/Submit
adjective
1.
judged over a period of time to be of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind.
thats the definition. if u don't consider carter III OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY, then its not a classic. period.
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Because a lot of people thought it was so good that they try to recreate it. It started something that I may not understand, or even like, but you can't deny that others like it. To not understand that it created a movement is to be stubborn. So it was thrown into my list, because it's an essential Hip Hop album.
Since originally making the list myself, I switched what classic makes to me. To me we over use the word classic. Years ago I'd call my list classics, now I only use that word for lack of a better word. I'd say there are only like 10 real classics, the rest are great albums, masterpieces, whatever you want to call them. But I think of it like this, if I had to pick albums to put in the library of Congress to document Hip Hop, and I only had 10, what would I pick? Maybe it's 9, maybe I'd need 11 or 12. But the word classic has to be toned down, because you can't have 100 classic albums.
so because others like it, it's classic....just like I said, sheep mentality. basically, if the general consensus told u that a piece of shit wrapped in plastic was classic, you'd be inclined to agree.
cmon now
clas·sic
ˈklasik/Submit
adjective
1.
judged over a period of time to be of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind.
thats the definition. if u don't consider carter III OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY, then its not a classic. period.
Nah, if you have read what I've said in this thread, I said that yes, 2 years ago I'd called these classics, but I don't anymore. I think the word classic gets used too much. I'd call this a list of influential albums, which the Carter III is influential, or maybe essential albums to knowing about Hip-Hop. But I'd narrow a list of classics to maybe 10 albums, maybe 15. The word classic is used too damn much.
This definition: judged over a period of time to be of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind.
Nothing from Brotha Lynch & X-Raided fits that. Outside the westcoast, really Warren G doesn't fit that, outside the south Lil' Wayne doesn't fit that. If I was to narrow down the list of what fits THAT description, I'd have 10-15 albums, 15 MAX. I'd have a lot of songs, A LOT of songs. I'd have a LOT of Bay Area songs. But whole albums, you can find fault in many albums. Warren G on the G Funk Era SUCKED in rapping, many albums have skits that completely throw off the feel of the album listening from front to back, lots of these albums have skipable tracks.
So I DON'T consider Carter III highest quality. I also don't Warren G because of his rapping, Brotha Lynch, X-Raided, Kurupt on Streetz Iz A Mutha. Just because it's west coast and I prefer west coast music doesn't mean I have to label west coast classics as classics! Looking at the whole game, the grand scheme of things, Dogg Food didn't do much to move the needle in Hip-Hop. So just because I bump I Don't Like to Dream About Gettin' Paid the day before every payday don't mean it's a classic. It's a truly dope album, it's a west coast classic and if I was to make a list of albums from the west to listen to, so that person could understand west coast rap, it's be a top 10 album to check out. But that don't make it a classic. As I've said, classic gets WAY over used.
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Because a lot of people thought it was so good that they try to recreate it. It started something that I may not understand, or even like, but you can't deny that others like it. To not understand that it created a movement is to be stubborn. So it was thrown into my list, because it's an essential Hip Hop album.
Since originally making the list myself, I switched what classic makes to me. To me we over use the word classic. Years ago I'd call my list classics, now I only use that word for lack of a better word. I'd say there are only like 10 real classics, the rest are great albums, masterpieces, whatever you want to call them. But I think of it like this, if I had to pick albums to put in the library of Congress to document Hip Hop, and I only had 10, what would I pick? Maybe it's 9, maybe I'd need 11 or 12. But the word classic has to be toned down, because you can't have 100 classic albums.
so because others like it, it's classic....just like I said, sheep mentality. basically, if the general consensus told u that a piece of shit wrapped in plastic was classic, you'd be inclined to agree.
cmon now
clas·sic
ˈklasik/Submit
adjective
1.
judged over a period of time to be of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind.
thats the definition. if u don't consider carter III OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY, then its not a classic. period.
Nah, if you have read what I've said in this thread, I said that yes, 2 years ago I'd called these classics, but I don't anymore. I think the word classic gets used too much. I'd call this a list of influential albums, which the Carter III is influential, or maybe essential albums to knowing about Hip-Hop. But I'd narrow a list of classics to maybe 10 albums, maybe 15. The word classic is used too damn much.
This definition: judged over a period of time to be of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind.
Nothing from Brotha Lynch & X-Raided fits that. Outside the westcoast, really Warren G doesn't fit that, outside the south Lil' Wayne doesn't fit that. If I was to narrow down the list of what fits THAT description, I'd have 10-15 albums, 15 MAX. I'd have a lot of songs, A LOT of songs. I'd have a LOT of Bay Area songs. But whole albums, you can find fault in many albums. Warren G on the G Funk Era SUCKED in rapping, many albums have skits that completely throw off the feel of the album listening from front to back, lots of these albums have skipable tracks.
So I DON'T consider Carter III highest quality. I also don't Warren G because of his rapping, Brotha Lynch, X-Raided, Kurupt on Streetz Iz A Mutha. Just because it's west coast and I prefer west coast music doesn't mean I have to label west coast classics as classics! Looking at the whole game, the grand scheme of things, Dogg Food didn't do much to move the needle in Hip-Hop. So just because I bump I Don't Like to Dream About Gettin' Paid the day before every payday don't mean it's a classic. It's a truly dope album, it's a west coast classic and if I was to make a list of albums from the west to listen to, so that person could understand west coast rap, it's be a top 10 album to check out. But that don't make it a classic. As I've said, classic gets WAY over used.
Warren G doesn't have an album of the highest quality/outstanding of its kind? Regulate is pretty much the album that defined the smooth, melodic hip-hop of that era..
Season of da Siccness isn't of the highest quality in terms of horrorcore? It's not outstanding of its kind?? Maybe u should go listen to it again (if uv ever even heard it)
Warren g's album is about as much about the bars as a pink floyd album .. Would u discredit pink floyd because they're not lyrical? It's like discrediting wu tang because there's not enough harmonizing on their shit .. This is the Will B mentality and its retarded. Warren G was the best at what he did .. Brotha lynch was the best at what he did .. Their albums are classics in that regard.
Again, classic has nothing to do with moving the needle, so I duno why u keep bringin that up. It's like saying drake is better than kendrick cuz he sold more records. Dumbass sheep shit. To say there are only 10 rap albums of the highest quality is some snob logic, if I ever heard it.
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if there can be hundreds of classic movies, shows, books, etc. there can be the same if not more with albums... bottom line
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Simple Sccit, because part of judging quality is judging how it moved people, and in Hip-Hop, the culture. Did that piece of work influence others to follow the leader. People are trying to tell me on the East that MF Doom is the GOAT rapper of all time. That's just crazy! MF Doom is a great lyrist, but he hasn't moved the culture. In a genre in which there are many, many giants who moved the culture, then why settle for those that haven't. The moment you start saying, well that's a classic, that's a classic, that's a classic, then what does classic even mean. Then we start talking about the Luniz, who had a great song, well that album has to be classic. Did Mr. Grimm have a classic?
Blood$, easy, movies have been out for over 100 years. Even looking at Hip-Hop, Hip-Hop's been on the radio for 35 years. You say there are 60 classics, just a number. That's almost 2 classics a year. In movies, you say there are 200 classic action movies, because action is a genre. Remember, there are different movie genres out there. You have comedy, you have dramas, you have horror. If you compare movies, then you do music. In music you have rock, you have R&B, you have Hip-Hop, you have whatever L.A.M.B. is. Movies are in different genres, just like music is in different genres.
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part of judging quality is judging how it moved people
if you are a sheep
The moment you start saying, well that's a classic, that's a classic, that's a classic, then what does classic even mean
of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind
you are clearly mad based on your snide remarks. don't be upset, just work on your flaws bro.
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Judging by quality of music has it's flaws too. By who's quality? I mean, everyone hear, we put together a classics list and it's going to be mainly 90's west coast rap, as if nothing else exist. You go to the south and it's mainly 2000's southern rap, as if nothing else exist. Who's quality. It's why I said it's how it moved people. Because PEOPLE judge quality of music. Music is subjective, it's to the ear of the beholder. On this board, X-Raided is more likely to be a classic than Carter III, but you go a lot of places and they are arguing not if Carter III is classic, but if Wayne has 3 classics or 4? Does Kanye have only 2 classics, or 5? I saw one board where people had Future at 3 classics! FUTURE, 3 CLASSICS! That's ridiculous. That's partly why I'm done with the word classic. To you, to Sccit, what you think is a classic, and what you'll argue is classic will get laughed out of a thread, or board, or even conversation with these college kids today. I work with these kids. These kids don't see any of what you said as classics. And guess what? They are right. Not because it ain't good music, but the music failed to relate to them, therefore the music is dated and it failed to be seen as great over a long period of time, therefore it's not classic! Bottomline. These kids don't think it's classic, it's not classic. Because over time, they'll be here longer than us and they don't see it as classic.
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Judging by quality of music has it's flaws too. By who's quality? I mean, everyone hear, we put together a classics list and it's going to be mainly 90's west coast rap, as if nothing else exist. You go to the south and it's mainly 2000's southern rap, as if nothing else exist. Who's quality. It's why I said it's how it moved people. Because PEOPLE judge quality of music. Music is subjective, it's to the ear of the beholder. On this board, X-Raided is more likely to be a classic than Carter III, but you go a lot of places and they are arguing not if Carter III is classic, but if Wayne has 3 classics or 4? Does Kanye have only 2 classics, or 5? I saw one board where people had Future at 3 classics! FUTURE, 3 CLASSICS! That's ridiculous. That's partly why I'm done with the word classic. To you, to Sccit, what you think is a classic, and what you'll argue is classic will get laughed out of a thread, or board, or even conversation with these college kids today. I work with these kids. These kids don't see any of what you said as classics. And guess what? They are right. Not because it ain't good music, but the music failed to relate to them, therefore the music is dated and it failed to be seen as great over a long period of time, therefore it's not classic! Bottomline. These kids don't think it's classic, it's not classic. Because over time, they'll be here longer than us and they don't see it as classic.
Ur logic is so flawed, I don't even know where to begin .. U say because something doesn't relate to college kids today, then it's not classic. That means there are no classics in existence, because there will always be a demographic that doesn't relate to something. Are u trolling? I mean, what u sayin is not wrong or right... It's dumb. If u wana define classic by what other people think, that's fine. Ur a sheep and I'll let u cook if that's how u feel. But what I consider classic only pertains to me, not no one else..... It's quite simple; u either go by what u think, or u go by what others think. And if u go by what others think, it says more about your character than u realize.
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Judging by quality of music has it's flaws too. By who's quality? I mean, everyone hear, we put together a classics list and it's going to be mainly 90's west coast rap, as if nothing else exist. You go to the south and it's mainly 2000's southern rap, as if nothing else exist. Who's quality. It's why I said it's how it moved people. Because PEOPLE judge quality of music. Music is subjective, it's to the ear of the beholder. On this board, X-Raided is more likely to be a classic than Carter III, but you go a lot of places and they are arguing not if Carter III is classic, but if Wayne has 3 classics or 4? Does Kanye have only 2 classics, or 5? I saw one board where people had Future at 3 classics! FUTURE, 3 CLASSICS! That's ridiculous. That's partly why I'm done with the word classic. To you, to Sccit, what you think is a classic, and what you'll argue is classic will get laughed out of a thread, or board, or even conversation with these college kids today. I work with these kids. These kids don't see any of what you said as classics. And guess what? They are right. Not because it ain't good music, but the music failed to relate to them, therefore the music is dated and it failed to be seen as great over a long period of time, therefore it's not classic! Bottomline. These kids don't think it's classic, it's not classic. Because over time, they'll be here longer than us and they don't see it as classic.
Ur logic is so flawed, I don't even know where to begin .. U say because something doesn't relate to college kids today, then it's not classic. That means there are no classics in existence, because there will always be a demographic that doesn't relate to something. Are u trolling? I mean, what u sayin is not wrong or right... It's dumb. If u wana define classic by what other people think, that's fine. Ur a sheep and I'll let u cook if that's how u feel. But what I consider classic only pertains to me, not no one else..... It's quite simple; u either go by what u think, or u go by what others think. And if u go by what others think, it says more about your character than u realize.
How is my logic flawed. I'm saying we've bastardized the word classic. Classic should only be reserved for the best of the best. It should be for timeless classic albums that stand the test of quality, mixed with being something future generations relate to. It's like older albums, what gets remember, what doesn't. Why is What's Going On remembered from 1971, even though Maybe Tomorrow from the Jackson 5 sold 1,000,000 more copies? Because people can relate to it after many years. When people look back, they go to the Jackson 5's first 3 albums, but Maybe Tomorrow is forgotten. My generation, if we want to get music from that era, we'd look at other Jackson 5 albums, or Marvin Gaye, Curtis by Curtis Mayfield. Classics stand the test of time. Only few albums stand the test of time with future generations. We lived it, over time we look at the music even MORE fondly than we did in the 90's. I'm even more excited to listen to Dogg Food than I was in 1995. But do future generations hear the same music and think it's great? Some of it.
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Judging by quality of music has it's flaws too. By who's quality? I mean, everyone hear, we put together a classics list and it's going to be mainly 90's west coast rap, as if nothing else exist. You go to the south and it's mainly 2000's southern rap, as if nothing else exist. Who's quality. It's why I said it's how it moved people. Because PEOPLE judge quality of music. Music is subjective, it's to the ear of the beholder. On this board, X-Raided is more likely to be a classic than Carter III, but you go a lot of places and they are arguing not if Carter III is classic, but if Wayne has 3 classics or 4? Does Kanye have only 2 classics, or 5? I saw one board where people had Future at 3 classics! FUTURE, 3 CLASSICS! That's ridiculous. That's partly why I'm done with the word classic. To you, to Sccit, what you think is a classic, and what you'll argue is classic will get laughed out of a thread, or board, or even conversation with these college kids today. I work with these kids. These kids don't see any of what you said as classics. And guess what? They are right. Not because it ain't good music, but the music failed to relate to them, therefore the music is dated and it failed to be seen as great over a long period of time, therefore it's not classic! Bottomline. These kids don't think it's classic, it's not classic. Because over time, they'll be here longer than us and they don't see it as classic.
Ur logic is so flawed, I don't even know where to begin .. U say because something doesn't relate to college kids today, then it's not classic. That means there are no classics in existence, because there will always be a demographic that doesn't relate to something. Are u trolling? I mean, what u sayin is not wrong or right... It's dumb. If u wana define classic by what other people think, that's fine. Ur a sheep and I'll let u cook if that's how u feel. But what I consider classic only pertains to me, not no one else..... It's quite simple; u either go by what u think, or u go by what others think. And if u go by what others think, it says more about your character than u realize.
How is my logic flawed. I'm saying we've bastardized the word classic. Classic should only be reserved for the best of the best. It should be for timeless classic albums that stand the test of quality, mixed with being something future generations relate to. It's like older albums, what gets remember, what doesn't. Why is What's Going On remembered from 1971, even though Maybe Tomorrow from the Jackson 5 sold 1,000,000 more copies? Because people can relate to it after many years. When people look back, they go to the Jackson 5's first 3 albums, but Maybe Tomorrow is forgotten. My generation, if we want to get music from that era, we'd look at other Jackson 5 albums, or Marvin Gaye, Curtis by Curtis Mayfield. Classics stand the test of time. Only few albums stand the test of time with future generations. We lived it, over time we look at the music even MORE fondly than we did in the 90's. I'm even more excited to listen to Dogg Food than I was in 1995. But do future generations hear the same music and think it's great? Some of it.
oh...so dogg food is of the highest of quality to u, but not to others, so it's not a classic. got u.
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Judging by quality of music has it's flaws too. By who's quality? I mean, everyone hear, we put together a classics list and it's going to be mainly 90's west coast rap, as if nothing else exist. You go to the south and it's mainly 2000's southern rap, as if nothing else exist. Who's quality. It's why I said it's how it moved people. Because PEOPLE judge quality of music. Music is subjective, it's to the ear of the beholder. On this board, X-Raided is more likely to be a classic than Carter III, but you go a lot of places and they are arguing not if Carter III is classic, but if Wayne has 3 classics or 4? Does Kanye have only 2 classics, or 5? I saw one board where people had Future at 3 classics! FUTURE, 3 CLASSICS! That's ridiculous. That's partly why I'm done with the word classic. To you, to Sccit, what you think is a classic, and what you'll argue is classic will get laughed out of a thread, or board, or even conversation with these college kids today. I work with these kids. These kids don't see any of what you said as classics. And guess what? They are right. Not because it ain't good music, but the music failed to relate to them, therefore the music is dated and it failed to be seen as great over a long period of time, therefore it's not classic! Bottomline. These kids don't think it's classic, it's not classic. Because over time, they'll be here longer than us and they don't see it as classic.
Ur logic is so flawed, I don't even know where to begin .. U say because something doesn't relate to college kids today, then it's not classic. That means there are no classics in existence, because there will always be a demographic that doesn't relate to something. Are u trolling? I mean, what u sayin is not wrong or right... It's dumb. If u wana define classic by what other people think, that's fine. Ur a sheep and I'll let u cook if that's how u feel. But what I consider classic only pertains to me, not no one else..... It's quite simple; u either go by what u think, or u go by what others think. And if u go by what others think, it says more about your character than u realize.
How is my logic flawed. I'm saying we've bastardized the word classic. Classic should only be reserved for the best of the best. It should be for timeless classic albums that stand the test of quality, mixed with being something future generations relate to. It's like older albums, what gets remember, what doesn't. Why is What's Going On remembered from 1971, even though Maybe Tomorrow from the Jackson 5 sold 1,000,000 more copies? Because people can relate to it after many years. When people look back, they go to the Jackson 5's first 3 albums, but Maybe Tomorrow is forgotten. My generation, if we want to get music from that era, we'd look at other Jackson 5 albums, or Marvin Gaye, Curtis by Curtis Mayfield. Classics stand the test of time. Only few albums stand the test of time with future generations. We lived it, over time we look at the music even MORE fondly than we did in the 90's. I'm even more excited to listen to Dogg Food than I was in 1995. But do future generations hear the same music and think it's great? Some of it.
oh...so dogg food is of the highest of quality to u, but not to others, so it's not a classic. got u.
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I'm not the one who calls myself a lamb.
I'm being realistic on the whole thing. I like things. I like things that I think are the greatest ever. But I don't go around claiming what I like is classic, or you're wrong for liking what you like. You can like what you like, I can like what I like. You like Horrorcore Rap. I can't STAND Horrorcore Rap. To me, it's flaming hot garbage. But you do you homie, you do you. You like, more power to you. Out here, people LOVE Slug, I think he's boring. I meet eastcoast heads to are trying to tell me MF Doom is the fuckin' GOAT, better than Rakim! You all do you, you all do you. I can think you're wrong, in fact I'll state it as fact, MF Doom ain't greater than Rakim.
With that said, I'm starting a muthaphukkin' movement! Get the words Classic and GOAT out of Hip-Hop. They are over used. With some exceptions, like Straight Outta Compton, Illmatic, the Chronic, they are classics, and 2Pac, Rakim, Nas, Eminem, those are GOATs. But with the exception of a few other albums and rappers, the words are OVER FUCKIN' USED! That's my new movement. Stop saying your favorite album is classic, because it ain't. It may be great quality, but to others, it ain't last the test of time!
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Agree with M Dogg. Still a difference between a very good album and a classic. Best examples of rappers with very good albums but not classics. Ice-T, Too Short, and MC Ren.
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Agree with M Dogg. Still a difference between a very good album and a classic. Best examples of rappers with very good albums but not classics. Ice-T, Too Short, and MC Ren.
TOO SHORT AND ICE T BOTH HAVE CLASSICS
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Judging by quality of music has it's flaws too. By who's quality? I mean, everyone hear, we put together a classics list and it's going to be mainly 90's west coast rap, as if nothing else exist. You go to the south and it's mainly 2000's southern rap, as if nothing else exist. Who's quality. It's why I said it's how it moved people. Because PEOPLE judge quality of music. Music is subjective, it's to the ear of the beholder. On this board, X-Raided is more likely to be a classic than Carter III, but you go a lot of places and they are arguing not if Carter III is classic, but if Wayne has 3 classics or 4? Does Kanye have only 2 classics, or 5? I saw one board where people had Future at 3 classics! FUTURE, 3 CLASSICS! That's ridiculous. That's partly why I'm done with the word classic. To you, to Sccit, what you think is a classic, and what you'll argue is classic will get laughed out of a thread, or board, or even conversation with these college kids today. I work with these kids. These kids don't see any of what you said as classics. And guess what? They are right. Not because it ain't good music, but the music failed to relate to them, therefore the music is dated and it failed to be seen as great over a long period of time, therefore it's not classic! Bottomline. These kids don't think it's classic, it's not classic. Because over time, they'll be here longer than us and they don't see it as classic.
Ur logic is so flawed, I don't even know where to begin .. U say because something doesn't relate to college kids today, then it's not classic. That means there are no classics in existence, because there will always be a demographic that doesn't relate to something. Are u trolling? I mean, what u sayin is not wrong or right... It's dumb. If u wana define classic by what other people think, that's fine. Ur a sheep and I'll let u cook if that's how u feel. But what I consider classic only pertains to me, not no one else..... It's quite simple; u either go by what u think, or u go by what others think. And if u go by what others think, it says more about your character than u realize.
How is my logic flawed. I'm saying we've bastardized the word classic. Classic should only be reserved for the best of the best. It should be for timeless classic albums that stand the test of quality, mixed with being something future generations relate to. It's like older albums, what gets remember, what doesn't. Why is What's Going On remembered from 1971, even though Maybe Tomorrow from the Jackson 5 sold 1,000,000 more copies? Because people can relate to it after many years. When people look back, they go to the Jackson 5's first 3 albums, but Maybe Tomorrow is forgotten. My generation, if we want to get music from that era, we'd look at other Jackson 5 albums, or Marvin Gaye, Curtis by Curtis Mayfield. Classics stand the test of time. Only few albums stand the test of time with future generations. We lived it, over time we look at the music even MORE fondly than we did in the 90's. I'm even more excited to listen to Dogg Food than I was in 1995. But do future generations hear the same music and think it's great? Some of it.
oh...so dogg food is of the highest of quality to u, but not to others, so it's not a classic. got u.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/cS8ljLbg3NFPq/giphy.gif)
I'm not the one who calls myself a lamb.
I'm being realistic on the whole thing. I like things. I like things that I think are the greatest ever. But I don't go around claiming what I like is classic, or you're wrong for liking what you like. You can like what you like, I can like what I like. You like Horrorcore Rap. I can't STAND Horrorcore Rap. To me, it's flaming hot garbage. But you do you homie, you do you. You like, more power to you. Out here, people LOVE Slug, I think he's boring. I meet eastcoast heads to are trying to tell me MF Doom is the fuckin' GOAT, better than Rakim! You all do you, you all do you. I can think you're wrong, in fact I'll state it as fact, MF Doom ain't greater than Rakim.
With that said, I'm starting a muthaphukkin' movement! Get the words Classic and GOAT out of Hip-Hop. They are over used. With some exceptions, like Straight Outta Compton, Illmatic, the Chronic, they are classics, and 2Pac, Rakim, Nas, Eminem, those are GOATs. But with the exception of a few other albums and rappers, the words are OVER FUCKIN' USED! That's my new movement. Stop saying your favorite album is classic, because it ain't. It may be great quality, but to others, it ain't last the test of time!
the entire premise behind lamb was that we never developed into sheep and remained pure, as opposed to conforming to societal standards.
if u do or don't consider something classic, i got no problems wit that. that's your choice to make. but when u factor in what OTHERS think, that's when it becomes sheepish. most people are stupid and have terrible taste, so at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter what they think.
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Agree with M Dogg. Still a difference between a very good album and a classic. Best examples of rappers with very good albums but not classics. Ice-T, Too Short, and MC Ren.
TOO SHORT AND ICE T BOTH HAVE CLASSICS
To you they're classics, to me very good. It's all opinion.
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Agree with M Dogg. Still a difference between a very good album and a classic. Best examples of rappers with very good albums but not classics. Ice-T, Too Short, and MC Ren.
TOO SHORT AND ICE T BOTH HAVE CLASSICS
To you they're classics, to me very good. It's all opinion.
exactly
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Agree with M Dogg. Still a difference between a very good album and a classic. Best examples of rappers with very good albums but not classics. Ice-T, Too Short, and MC Ren.
TOO SHORT AND ICE T BOTH HAVE CLASSICS
To you they're classics, to me very good. It's all opinion.
exactly
Well at least you can understand that.
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Agree with M Dogg. Still a difference between a very good album and a classic. Best examples of rappers with very good albums but not classics. Ice-T, Too Short, and MC Ren.
TOO SHORT AND ICE T BOTH HAVE CLASSICS
To you they're classics, to me very good. It's all opinion.
exactly
Well at least you can understand that.
I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID IN THIS THREAD, YOUR THOUGHTS ARE PRETTY SIMPLE....I HONESTLY THINK THAT YOU'RE HAVING AN ISSUE COMPREHENDING WHERE I'M COMING FROM WHEN I SAY THAT THE TERM CLASSIC HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THE GENERAL MASSES THINKS, AND THAT IT'S A SHEEPMADE OUTLOOK.
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Agree with M Dogg. Still a difference between a very good album and a classic. Best examples of rappers with very good albums but not classics. Ice-T, Too Short, and MC Ren.
TOO SHORT AND ICE T BOTH HAVE CLASSICS
To you they're classics, to me very good. It's all opinion.
exactly
Well at least you can understand that.
I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID IN THIS THREAD, YOUR THOUGHTS ARE PRETTY SIMPLE....I HONESTLY THINK THAT YOU'RE HAVING AN ISSUE COMPREHENDING WHERE I'M COMING FROM WHEN I SAY THAT THE TERM CLASSIC HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THE GENERAL MASSES THINKS, AND THAT IT'S A SHEEPMADE OUTLOOK.
I understand everything you said. I sort of agree. That's why I'm done with the word classic. Too many lambmade bitches out there saying classic and GOAT, I'm saying kill that. I also am saying, kill saying classic just because you like it. You ain't God, you don't get to label shit classic or a rapper GOAT just because. That's some lambbitchmade shit.
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Agree with M Dogg. Still a difference between a very good album and a classic. Best examples of rappers with very good albums but not classics. Ice-T, Too Short, and MC Ren.
TOO SHORT AND ICE T BOTH HAVE CLASSICS
To you they're classics, to me very good. It's all opinion.
exactly
Well at least you can understand that.
I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID IN THIS THREAD, YOUR THOUGHTS ARE PRETTY SIMPLE....I HONESTLY THINK THAT YOU'RE HAVING AN ISSUE COMPREHENDING WHERE I'M COMING FROM WHEN I SAY THAT THE TERM CLASSIC HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THE GENERAL MASSES THINKS, AND THAT IT'S A SHEEPMADE OUTLOOK.
I understand everything you said. I sort of agree. That's why I'm done with the word classic. Too many lambmade bitches out there saying classic and GOAT, I'm saying kill that. I also am saying, kill saying classic just because you like it. You ain't God, you don't get to label shit classic or a rapper GOAT just because. That's some lambbitchmade shit.
lmao u hella in yo feelings brodie
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Agree with M Dogg. Still a difference between a very good album and a classic. Best examples of rappers with very good albums but not classics. Ice-T, Too Short, and MC Ren.
TOO SHORT AND ICE T BOTH HAVE CLASSICS
To you they're classics, to me very good. It's all opinion.
exactly
Well at least you can understand that.
I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID IN THIS THREAD, YOUR THOUGHTS ARE PRETTY SIMPLE....I HONESTLY THINK THAT YOU'RE HAVING AN ISSUE COMPREHENDING WHERE I'M COMING FROM WHEN I SAY THAT THE TERM CLASSIC HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THE GENERAL MASSES THINKS, AND THAT IT'S A SHEEPMADE OUTLOOK.
I understand everything you said. I sort of agree. That's why I'm done with the word classic. Too many lambmade bitches out there saying classic and GOAT, I'm saying kill that. I also am saying, kill saying classic just because you like it. You ain't God, you don't get to label shit classic or a rapper GOAT just because. That's some lambbitchmade shit.
lmao u hella in yo feelings brodie
lambmadeassbitch... LOL... nah, you called me sheepmade, and I was like, I'm not the one that calls myself a baby sheep. So I had to point out the irony. ;)
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Agree with M Dogg. Still a difference between a very good album and a classic. Best examples of rappers with very good albums but not classics. Ice-T, Too Short, and MC Ren.
TOO SHORT AND ICE T BOTH HAVE CLASSICS
To you they're classics, to me very good. It's all opinion.
exactly
Well at least you can understand that.
I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID IN THIS THREAD, YOUR THOUGHTS ARE PRETTY SIMPLE....I HONESTLY THINK THAT YOU'RE HAVING AN ISSUE COMPREHENDING WHERE I'M COMING FROM WHEN I SAY THAT THE TERM CLASSIC HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THE GENERAL MASSES THINKS, AND THAT IT'S A SHEEPMADE OUTLOOK.
I understand everything you said. I sort of agree. That's why I'm done with the word classic. Too many lambmade bitches out there saying classic and GOAT, I'm saying kill that. I also am saying, kill saying classic just because you like it. You ain't God, you don't get to label shit classic or a rapper GOAT just because. That's some lambbitchmade shit.
lmao u hella in yo feelings brodie
lambmadeassbitch... LOL... nah, you called me sheepmade, and I was like, I'm not the one that calls myself a baby sheep. So I had to point out the irony. ;)
there's nothing ironic about it. you just havin problems comprehending the concept of stayin a lamb and not developing into a sheep. maybe if i had a spanish interpreter?