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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Chamillitary Click on August 30, 2018, 09:43:46 PM
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Fucking guy dropped an album WAY out of the blue.
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they just announced the venom soundtrack he doin too
hope it’s better than the last 1
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The cover is a nice beastie boys hommage.
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LINK?
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Sounds dope 8) link?
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after a few listen.
not bad, but eminem still not my type o music. dont hate him, but aint like him either.
the royce joint is good.
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Damn hes going off on the ringer :o
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Post the skits
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I like Stepping Stone and Fall a lot. The Ringer and Not Alike are pretty good too.
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any Dre production on this?
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any Dre production on this?
apparently dre was involved, but i don’t think he’s officially credited for any production .. probably mixing and overseeing
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Are hard copies out or are they coming out soon, anyone know?
Just had a quick look at various sites and the reviews for this are overwhelmingly positive compared to Revival (which I thought was OK). Can't wait to hear this album if the general consensus is to be believed.
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Hard copies will be out, but not sure when. His website says the CD will ship in 3-4 weeks.
I am still waiting on the Nas CD I ordered from his site, though...
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I did a first listen and it's a good album. It's my favorite since relapse. Nice to see him go balls out calling names. EMINEM shows how not too many can fuck with him on the mic. I really hope people try and come back at him so I can watch Em smash on them. I love how he called Lord Jamar out and basically did a MIC DROP on him.
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I've had a couple of listens through and I'm really liking this album. The only tracking I'm not really liking in "Normal".
Eminem destroys his critiques along with Joe Budden, Tyler the Creator, Machine Gun Kelly and the list goes on 8)
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I did a first listen and it's a good album. It's my favorite since relapse. Nice to see him go balls out calling names. EMINEM shows how not too many can fuck with him on the mic. I really hope people try and come back at him so I can watch Em smash on them. I love how he called Lord Jamar out and basically did a MIC DROP on him.
I think he got sick of being criticized and rightfully so for the pop garbage albums he was putting out
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Way doper then all the recent duds he put out, less rock/pop (hurrah!) and more hip-hop (some hooks still need work).
Em doing a lot of verbal bashing, plenty of Twista'esque rapid speed-rapping too.
I really hope people try and come back at him so I can watch Em smash on them.
This.
Eminem Producer Explains Why ‘Kamikaze’ Is a Throwback to Slim Shady
Illadaproducer, the man behind some of the scrappiest tracks on Eminem’s surprise album, discusses the LP’s creation
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When Eminem‘s surprise Kamikaze album arrived at midnight on Thursday, one name stood out in the credits: Illadaproducer is credited with production on four tracks, more than anyone other than Eminem himself. The beat-maker, real name Illya Fraser, is partially responsible for three of the first four songs, and his brawling beats help set the album’s feisty tone. On the first track alone, Eminem declares that every rapper except Kendrick Lamar, J. Cole and Big Sean is “a goner”; defies New York radio personality Charlamagne tha God; makes fun of Lil Pump, Lil Xan and Lil Yachty; and even decides his own anti-Trump cypher last fall may not have been worth it.
Illadaproducer, who works with Kent Jones and has produced songs for Lil Pump, sees Kamikaze as Eminem’s return to the viciously irreverent days of The Slim Shady LP, in contrast with the more contemplative tone of 2017’s Revival. The producer spoke with Rolling Stone about the importance of listening to your fans, sampling Little Dragon and why young rappers shouldn’t be offended by Eminem’s disses.
How did you first meet Eminem?
I did this song “Wait a Minute” for this artist Phresher from Brooklyn. I lived in Brooklyn for a while when I was younger, so anybody from Brooklyn I always try to work with. Right away I gave him that record, and it took off for us. That was one of Eminem’s favorite songs last year. He was like, “Who did that beat?” Phresher said, “My man Illa.” From there, Paul Rosenberg and Tracy [McNew] from Shady Records reached out to me. We’ve been working ever since.
I was on the road, because I also road-manage DJ Khaled’s artist Kent Jones. So I’ve been on tour running around doing stuff for different projects. I’ve just been feeding them beats.
Did you know you were feeding them beats for specific projects?
For Revival, I knew [Eminem] was fucking with my beats, the energy of my music. So I sent him beats with that hard-hitting 808s and that turn-up energy. That’s how he ended up on the “Offended” record, and that was one of the stand-out records on Revival.
I saw after he did the “Chloraseptic” song — oh, he’s ready to go bad. People were talking that shit on that internet. So I’m like, I’ve got some shit, if he wants to go bad, here it is. Kept feeding him, kept feeding him. And he kept going bad on my beats. Shout out to Tracy from Shady Records. I sent her some music like, Eminem just killed it on that “Chloraseptic” remix. That’s what he needs to keep doing. Here’s some music for him. She’s like, “He needs to hear this.”
A couple months went by and she hit me out of the blue: “Are these beats available?” I’m like, oh, shit! It was two beats at first, then I sent another batch, and he picked two more. By then I was about to pass out. But I didn’t know he was going to use all four. I turn in a lot of beats on a lot of projects. People pick stuff. Sometimes one will make it; sometimes none will make it. So I just kept it top secret. I didn’t tell nobody.
Then last night I’m sitting there, playing videogames at the crib, taking a break from making beats. I walk out back of my house, I see something about, Eminem dropped a new song. I thought it was the Venom record. So I’m like, let me check this out. I clicked on it, I see the link on iTunes, it’s the whole album! I almost dropped my phone, man. I lost it. I hit play on the first song, it was my beat! Oh, hell no! I’m outside trying to smoke a joint. I couldn’t even get high. I played song one through five, I produced the majority of ’em! And one of ’em’s a skit!
You didn’t get a heads up?
Two weeks ago I got some information from my lawyer, so I knew he was going to use these. But usually he drops in December. So I’m like, alright, I got a few months to wait. Hopefully he drops this year. If not, I’m gonna have to wait until next September. ‘Cause Em’s not rushing shit. But that shit came out two weeks later.
Eminem addresses the critics of Revival a lot on this album — did you notice the negative reaction to that album too?
Oh yeah. I’m somebody who’s always online. I pride myself on that. I read every fucking review. ‘Cause I’m part of this project, and Eminem’s one of the greatest! The problem is, Em reads all that shit too. That fucked him up. So he went back in, and that’s why eight months, nine months later, we got Kamikaze.
Which two beats were the first you sent over?
The one he used for the intro and the beat for the first half of “Normal.”
How did “The Ringer” come together?
I was trying to make something for the club. Something for either Migos, Pump or SmokePurpp. When they said they fuck with my music from “Wait a Minute,” I sent him a bunch of beats all like “Wait a Minute.” He didn’t pick any of ’em. So I’m like, alright, he wants something different. I sent him a new batch with a bunch of different sounds: Atlantic-sounding shit, Miami-sounding shit, up-north-sounding shit, West-Coast shit. He picked that beat.
You work with young rappers too, and on this album, Eminem is going after the young guys — does that put you in a funny spot?
Nah, man. To me, it’s art. They make two different types of hip-hop. There’s lyrical hip-hop, which always reigned supreme. Then there’s what they call mumble rap, which is feel-good music. It’s more about the feeling than the lyrics. They can both coincide. When I’m hearing him going at the younger guys, I’m like, this is the game you’re in. If you say you’re a rapper, if another rapper goes at you, even if it’s the G.O.A.T., either you’re gonna take some bars, or you’re gonna give some back. Most of ’em just gonna take ’em. ‘Cause there’s nothing you can do. What are you gonna do, battle rap Eminem? Nah. They do their own thing. Eminem just went pulled out the switch on niggas and handed out a whooping. Like, don’t think that I ain’t paying attention.
Do you think they’re listening?
Some cats are gonna be like, fuck that. But look at Lil Yachty: He was like, “yo, I don’t take that as a diss. I love Eminem.” I even think Pump won’t even take it as a diss. To me, Eminem is talking about how everybody’s a carbon copy of everybody. Pump’s one of the originators, so if I’m him, I’m not taking that as a diss.
Do ghostwriters bother you?
I can’t get mad; it’s about making a hit record. But you gotta respect the greats who don’t need a ghostwriter.
How did “Normal” come together?
Normal was a beat I made last year for a Kendrick or a J. Cole or a Drake. As I’m making it, I’m like, somebody’s gotta spit bars on this shit.
At the beginning of that one though, Eminem is singing like some of the young artists do.
Yeah it reminds of like a Post Malone mixed with Chance type of thing — you know how they have that sing-song thing flow on some of their records? I was excited when I was hearing all the flows, all the melodies he’s coming with, because like I said, he pays attention. As a great artist or an artist who’s just starting, you need to pay attention to your fanbase. If people are telling you, yo, we like this but not this, they’re not bossing you around, these are the people who you need to please. You should heed to it, just do it your own way. That’s what I think he did perfectly on this album.
The sample on “Normal” – that’s Little Dragon?
Little Dragon, man! I love indie music. I love diggin’ for samples. I don’t really sample anymore, because of publishing. But when I hear a sample that just lets me hear the whole beat, I can’t ignore that. I gotta knock the beat out, write the music really quick. Then I’ll deal with the business later.
How about “Lucky You,” what led to that beat?
That was the last beat I sent. I sat down, I was on the road. I was like, I’m gonna make beats just for Em. Because Tracy was like, “He likes these two beats, so if you have anything else, send some more.” So I just sat that whole week and made beats just for him. I’m like, Eminem always goes so bad on those big piano melody records. A lot of his big records have either guitar or piano. I need to make him one of those. That’s why I went with the big piano line.
What about “Good Guy,” what’s the sample there?
That’s me doing my video game thing. Kingdom Hearts. It’s a Japanese videogame, and that’s the theme song from it. It’s one of the dopest melodies I’ve ever heard. Shout out Japanese videogames and Japanimation for inspiration. Filtered it, did some chops, did some processing to it. I basically made it unrecognizable, but I know they would have still found it. That’s why we had to deal with the clearance. But when I do anything I try to make it to where it’s not fully recognizable.
They added Jessie Reyez to it after?
Yep. She killed that record. The “Nice Guy” record too. She’s special.
In your mind, how does Kamikaze stack up next to Revival?
You can’t even compare the two. Apples and oranges. A lot of Em’s more refined fans, people who wanted to see growth in him, they liked Revival. I liked Revival too. People wanted Slim Shady. He was doing his version of [Jay-Z’s] 4:44. People weren’t ready for it. It’s the marketplace; it’s not the music. But you’re not gonna know until you try, right? He gave it a try. He got his reaction. Then right away, he’s going right back to the drawing board. O.K., that’s what you want? And he delivered.
So this is the return of Slim Shady?
To me it is. Right away he comes out just blowing bad, spittin’. This is Eminem! Top five, dead or alive. I want to hear him go bad. And I got what I was looking for.
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Smoking weed and playing video games as a grown man ? Shocker.. His beats are weak ..Eminem's lyrics and flow make this album what it is , not this guy's mediocre production. Eminem chose beats that had no chance of being the focus , as his lyrics are clearly on display here.
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Lots of yippity yappity fillers and boring beats. Album is average at best (to me). Still much much much better than his last album. No one would bother responding to his jabs in 2018 since anyone that got called out has nothing to gain from dissing back. I'm pretty sure someone else would drop an album next week (figuratively speaking) and the majority of people would just move onto that and forget this even existed, only to be reminded again when Venom comes out in the cinemas
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Lots of yippity yappity fillers and boring beats. Album is average at best (to me). Still much much much better than his last album. No one would bother responding to his jabs in 2018 since anyone that got called out has nothing to gain from dissing back. I'm pretty sure someone else would drop an album next week (figuratively speaking) and the majority of people would just move onto that and forget this even existed, only to be reminded again when Venom comes out in the cinemas
i doubt that and some1 more than likely will respond since it’s bein hailed as album of the year
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The beats may not be Dre, but they are kinda where commercial rap is now and they don't make your ears bleed, mesh quite well with his voice. Flow and lyrical content seem the best he's been since Relapse, although weak hooks and awful singing on some stuff.
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The beats may not be Dre, but they are kinda where commercial rap is now and they don't make your ears bleed, mesh quite well with his voice. Flow and lyrical content seem the best he's been since Relapse, although weak hooks and awful singing on some stuff.
Yeah, I’m not finding anything mind blowing with the beats, but I’m very happy that he didn’t go with the poppy sounding rock samples, on this one.
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The beats may not be Dre, but they are kinda where commercial rap is now and they don't make your ears bleed, mesh quite well with his voice. Flow and lyrical content seem the best he's been since Relapse, although weak hooks and awful singing on some stuff.
Pretty much how I feel. Dope cuts. Dope bars. Wasn't all over the place with that "kill a goose with jamba juice on an alaskan cruise on the 3rd and a half week of june!!!" shit he's been on. Coherent message; verses made sense. The shots thrown were cool.
I'm still blown away nobody in his corner says "dude, how about you try to switch your flow a little bit? Why is every song 10,000 miles an hour?" for like 3-4 albums now lmao.
& the random D-12 apology track was hilarious.
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its a decent album, some awesome lyrics.... songs are ok.... worth a listen to me tho
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"Jon Connor IS the next Aftermath representative"🤣🤣
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didn't think I'd say this but it's a cool album, it bodies all those frisbees he dropped after The Eminem Show
the only songs I didn't care for were "Normal", "Nice Guy", and "Good Guy"... I could have done without the hooks on "Stepping Stone" and "Not Alike" but the rest I rocked with 8)
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didn't think I'd say this but it's a cool album, it bodies all those frisbees he dropped after The Eminem Show
the only songs I didn't care for were "Normal", "Nice Guy", and "Good Guy"... I could have done without the hooks on "Stepping Stone" and "Not Alike" but the rest I rocked with 8)
LOL WHY U BEEN SHITTIN ON MMLP2 SO BAD, U ACTUALLY SAID IT WAS DOPE WHEN IT FIRST DROPPED
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didn't think I'd say this but it's a cool album, it bodies all those frisbees he dropped after The Eminem Show
the only songs I didn't care for were "Normal", "Nice Guy", and "Good Guy"... I could have done without the hooks on "Stepping Stone" and "Not Alike" but the rest I rocked with 8)
LOL WHY U BEEN SHITTIN ON MMLP2 SO BAD, U ACTUALLY SAID IT WAS DOPE WHEN IT FIRST DROPPED
back when I heard it for the first time I was probably faded and feeling generous, I just pulled up the tracklist and I honestly can only remember a handful of ok joints now
clearly I don’t recall the rest because it sucked and didn’t hold up lol sure it wasn’t as bad as Relapse, Recovery or Revival but that basically says nothing
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didn't think I'd say this but it's a cool album, it bodies all those frisbees he dropped after The Eminem Show
the only songs I didn't care for were "Normal", "Nice Guy", and "Good Guy"... I could have done without the hooks on "Stepping Stone" and "Not Alike" but the rest I rocked with 8)
LOL WHY U BEEN SHITTIN ON MMLP2 SO BAD, U ACTUALLY SAID IT WAS DOPE WHEN IT FIRST DROPPED
For what it’s worth, I agree with you on MMLP2. There are a few tracks on there that I skip over, but overall, I thought it was dope. I wouldn’t rank it better than his first three or Relapse, but I would rank it wayyyy better than Encore, Recovery, and Revival.
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didn't think I'd say this but it's a cool album, it bodies all those frisbees he dropped after The Eminem Show
the only songs I didn't care for were "Normal", "Nice Guy", and "Good Guy"... I could have done without the hooks on "Stepping Stone" and "Not Alike" but the rest I rocked with 8)
LOL WHY U BEEN SHITTIN ON MMLP2 SO BAD, U ACTUALLY SAID IT WAS DOPE WHEN IT FIRST DROPPED
For what it’s worth, I agree with you on MMLP2. There are a few tracks on there that I skip over, but overall, I thought it was dope. I wouldn’t rank it better than his first three or Relapse, but I would rank it wayyyy better than Encore, Recovery, and Revival.
exactly
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didn't think I'd say this but it's a cool album, it bodies all those frisbees he dropped after The Eminem Show
the only songs I didn't care for were "Normal", "Nice Guy", and "Good Guy"... I could have done without the hooks on "Stepping Stone" and "Not Alike" but the rest I rocked with 8)
LOL WHY U BEEN SHITTIN ON MMLP2 SO BAD, U ACTUALLY SAID IT WAS DOPE WHEN IT FIRST DROPPED
For what it’s worth, I agree with you on MMLP2. There are a few tracks on there that I skip over, but overall, I thought it was dope. I wouldn’t rank it better than his first three or Relapse, but I would rank it wayyyy better than Encore, Recovery, and Revival.
ranking it above those album is basically saying a solid turd is better than diarrhea lol
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On mmlp2 buckshot track is fire.
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didn't think I'd say this but it's a cool album, it bodies all those frisbees he dropped after The Eminem Show
the only songs I didn't care for were "Normal", "Nice Guy", and "Good Guy"... I could have done without the hooks on "Stepping Stone" and "Not Alike" but the rest I rocked with 8)
LOL WHY U BEEN SHITTIN ON MMLP2 SO BAD, U ACTUALLY SAID IT WAS DOPE WHEN IT FIRST DROPPED
For what it’s worth, I agree with you on MMLP2. There are a few tracks on there that I skip over, but overall, I thought it was dope. I wouldn’t rank it better than his first three or Relapse, but I would rank it wayyyy better than Encore, Recovery, and Revival.
ranking it above those album is basically saying a solid turd is better than diarrhea lol
That’s just how I see it. I respect that you don’t agree. I’m not trying to change your mind. To me, Eminem is as good lyrically, as he’s ever been on MMLP2. The only place where it falls short, IMO, is some of the production. I’m not a big fan of most of the Rick Rubin production. He way overuses the old rock samples. But that only represents a few tracks on the album.
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On mmlp2 buckshot track is fire.
Completely agree! I wish they had included that track on the disc though or at least made it easier to find. I remember when the album dropped, I had to search to find it. I think I found out after the fact that you had to buy both the album and the video game, Call of Duty: Ghosts to get the song (or just find it on the internet, if you were aware that it was out there).
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https://www.youtube.com/v/kwhad3hGZmA&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwhad3hGZmA&feature=youtu.be)
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https://www.youtube.com/v/kwhad3hGZmA&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwhad3hGZmA&feature=youtu.be)
Thanks for posting. It’s interesting to hear what Budden has to say. I’ve been a Budden fan. I’m a huge Slaughterhouse fan, and I’ve even enjoyed listening to Budden’s podcast before. But honestly, if he’s going to talk shit on his podcast but not answer back with a proper response in a song and hide behind his retirement, that’s just weak. To be fair, I don’t think that what Joe Budden originally said about “Revival” was unfair. But it also seems a little chickenshit to come out on his podcast and say “well, what I really thought the whole time I was signed to Shady was that you sucked.”
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didn't think I'd say this but it's a cool album, it bodies all those frisbees he dropped after The Eminem Show
the only songs I didn't care for were "Normal", "Nice Guy", and "Good Guy"... I could have done without the hooks on "Stepping Stone" and "Not Alike" but the rest I rocked with 8)
LOL WHY U BEEN SHITTIN ON MMLP2 SO BAD, U ACTUALLY SAID IT WAS DOPE WHEN IT FIRST DROPPED
For what it’s worth, I agree with you on MMLP2. There are a few tracks on there that I skip over, but overall, I thought it was dope. I wouldn’t rank it better than his first three or Relapse, but I would rank it wayyyy better than Encore, Recovery, and Revival.
ranking it above those album is basically saying a solid turd is better than diarrhea lol
That’s just how I see it. I respect that you don’t agree. I’m not trying to change your mind. To me, Eminem is as good lyrically, as he’s ever been on MMLP2. The only place where it falls short, IMO, is some of the production. I’m not a big fan of most of the Rick Rubin production. He way overuses the old rock samples. But that only represents a few tracks on the album.
I respect that, to be fair it's mostly the production I have issues with for that album but some of his flows were kinda meh to me from what I can recall too... "Rap God" has to be one of the most overrated songs in hip-hop history lol also just the mere fact he declared it the sequel to his best work and fell so short
on this Kamikaze album he seems to be back in form and he was snapping on a few joints, I just don't know how much replay value this will have especially with so much other music out
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didn't think I'd say this but it's a cool album, it bodies all those frisbees he dropped after The Eminem Show
the only songs I didn't care for were "Normal", "Nice Guy", and "Good Guy"... I could have done without the hooks on "Stepping Stone" and "Not Alike" but the rest I rocked with 8)
LOL WHY U BEEN SHITTIN ON MMLP2 SO BAD, U ACTUALLY SAID IT WAS DOPE WHEN IT FIRST DROPPED
For what it’s worth, I agree with you on MMLP2. There are a few tracks on there that I skip over, but overall, I thought it was dope. I wouldn’t rank it better than his first three or Relapse, but I would rank it wayyyy better than Encore, Recovery, and Revival.
ranking it above those album is basically saying a solid turd is better than diarrhea lol
That’s just how I see it. I respect that you don’t agree. I’m not trying to change your mind. To me, Eminem is as good lyrically, as he’s ever been on MMLP2. The only place where it falls short, IMO, is some of the production. I’m not a big fan of most of the Rick Rubin production. He way overuses the old rock samples. But that only represents a few tracks on the album.
I respect that, to be fair it's mostly the production I have issues with for that album but some of his flows were kinda meh to me from what I can recall too... "Rap God" has to be one of the most overrated songs in hip-hop history lol also just the mere fact he declared it the sequel to his best work and fell so short
on this Kamikaze album he seems to be back in form and he was snapping on a few joints, I just don't know how much replay value this will have especially with so much other music out
Fair point. Time will tell, regarding how well it holds up. I think the production on Kamikaze is hit or miss, but I do
appreciate that he did away with all the rock samples on this one.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J34qpusEXK4
lol even I think this dude was a bit harsh on the album, I would have given it at least a 6/10 - 7/10
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good album, best from Em in a long while
the last album I really enjoyed was Relapse, because of the Dre production and from a technical standpoint he was really spitting even with the accents which didn't bother me that much
Recovery he started that yelling flow which I never cared for and it was mostly a pop album
Revival more of the same with even worst songs
MMLP2 just didn't live up to the hype IMO, its not a bad album at all though
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Eminem himself admits all his albums after The Eminem Show were trash for the most part lol I respect him for finally admitting the truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqh3zNhC5Kg
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Really interesting interview. Looking forward to part 2. I kind of hate that he goes after “Relapse” as bad as he does, although that has seemed to be his opinion for quite some time now. I personally have to disagree with Encore being better than Relapse. Yeah, he did do the accents a lot on Relapse, and on the first listen through it did bother me a little. On all subsequent listens though, I don’t notice it. Or I guess a better way to put it is they just seem to fit the songs. Plus the production on “Relapse” is just so much better than “Encore.”
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Really interesting interview. Looking forward to part 2. I kind of hate that he goes after “Relapse” as bad as he does, although that has seemed to be his opinion for quite some time now. I personally have to disagree with Encore being better th.an Relapse. Yeah, he did do the accents a lot on Relapse, and on the first listen through it did bother me a little. On all subsequent listens though, I don’t notice it. Or I guess a better way to put it is they just seem to fit the songs. Plus the production on “Relapse” is just so much better than “Encore.”
yeah I enjoyed Relapse but the accents aren't for everybody. Although by watching the interview he didn't intend it to be what it became
Recovery is just a pop album, not sure why Em regards it so high, no one else does
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Relapse was only good strictly in terms of it as an instrumental album, Encore shits on it in every other way despite it having some pretty horrific joints lol but you had bangers like "Encore" and "Never Enough" which made up for it and those 2 songs alone shit on everything from Relapse, Recovery, MMLP2, Revival, etc.
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relapse, mmlp2 were dope albums .. encore was hit n miss .. recovery and revival was garbo
eminem show, sslp, mmlp, infinite were all classic
too soon for me to rank kamikaze
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Fuck all ya’ll...
I was on this site under my old Infinite59 account that got deleted (and his only true supporter on the even older Bodyrott, Snoopsdogghouse (no forum) and Dreday forum 99-2000) and I recognized Em for what he was before dude even broke through the threshold I saw, met, and supported Em back in the day when was still doing small arena venues and “My Name Is” was just coming out.
So I don’t give a fuck what none of y’all say except maybe Sccit and there was one other cat who called it right...
This shit will have no replay value and a year from now it won’t stand the test of time.
Up until the D-12 World album (the first signs) and Encore (his first disappointment) everything Em had done was flawless, since then the only album that has been up to par has been MMLP2 (though not flawless) and some scattered tracks here and there like his shit with SIA such as “Guts Over Fear” and some joints from the Bad Meets Evil EP.
Check with me a year later and none of y’all will be bumping this shit.
I love Em he has nothing to prove I’m not dissing him—even he will come back around some years from now and be like “uhh those albums weren’t that good” like he came around and said about Encore and Relapse.
1. Eminem Show
2. MMLP
3. Slim Shady LP
4. 8 Mile
5. D12 - Devils Night
6. MMLP 2
7. Bad Meetz Evil EP
....and then all else is subpar and not vintage Em...fuck y’all opinions
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relapse, mmlp2 were dope albums .. encore was hit n miss .. recovery and revival was garbo
eminem show, sslp, mmlp, infinite were all classic
too soon for me to rank kamikaze
Kamikaze > MMLP2, Relapse, Recovery, Revival
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I fuck with Relapse. I know the accent is corny, but his flows were all time. & Dre laced that shit up & down.
I'll take Kamikaze over the other three. I will say though after bumping it today, outside of The Ringer, Lucky You, Not Alike, Kamikaze, Fall & Good Guy it's weak. So really there are 6 dope ass songs out of 13. Luckily the other 5 songs weren't garbage, just not near the replay value. It was just so refreshing to hear Em actually spit with some content & substance it didn't matter.
I don't see any other angles he can take his career from here. He should just hope 6 or so other people diss him & make his next album like a 13 track response of just straight diss tracks.
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Dope album as fuck. replay it 23 times till now. Normal and nice guy only weak tracks. #bars
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Great little album, I picked up my copy on Friday and have given it a few spins.
I don't think anyone can deny that this is the type of Eminem we want to hear, I couldn't believe it when the beat switched up on 'Not Alike' and he just went off, I literally had the biggest smile on my face hearing that for the first time.
The one critique I can think of personally is that he should have kept the whole album as a spazzing out project instead of putting in the couple of more mellow tracks at the end. Also, is Dre doing the Suge thing now as executive producer :D His name is nowhere in the credits?
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Great little album, I picked up my copy on Friday and have given it a few spins.
I don't think anyone can deny that this is the type of Eminem we want to hear, I couldn't believe it when the beat switched up on 'Not Alike' and he just went off, I literally had the biggest smile on my face hearing that for the first time.
The one critique I can think of personally is that he should have kept the whole album as a spazzing out project instead of putting in the couple of more mellow tracks at the end. Also, is Dre doing the Suge thing now as executive producer :D His name is nowhere in the credits?
I DONT THINK DRE WAS INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT OUTSIDE OF INPUT ON WHAT SHOULD BE RELEASED N WHAT SHOULDNT
MAYBE SOME GHOST-MIXING HERE N THERE, BUT I DONT THINK HE WAS REALLY HANDS-ON MUSICALLY
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"Venom" has good verses and a decent beat but man that hook is horrible on it lol
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Great little album, I picked up my copy on Friday and have given it a few spins.
I don't think anyone can deny that this is the type of Eminem we want to hear, I couldn't believe it when the beat switched up on 'Not Alike' and he just went off, I literally had the biggest smile on my face hearing that for the first time.
The one critique I can think of personally is that he should have kept the whole album as a spazzing out project instead of putting in the couple of more mellow tracks at the end. Also, is Dre doing the Suge thing now as executive producer :D His name is nowhere in the credits?
I DONT THINK DRE WAS INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT OUTSIDE OF INPUT ON WHAT SHOULD BE RELEASED N WHAT SHOULDNT
MAYBE SOME GHOST-MIXING HERE N THERE, BUT I DONT THINK HE WAS REALLY HANDS-ON MUSICALLY
Dre apparently told him one song went too far (not sure in what way) and they dropped it, so he was still involved in some level and an executive producer credit was probably still applicable.
I still don't know why he had a production credit on that skit on Revival. I mean, if he did the work, fine, but when I heard he had a production credit, it wasn't exactly what any of us were looking for.
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Great little album, I picked up my copy on Friday and have given it a few spins.
I don't think anyone can deny that this is the type of Eminem we want to hear, I couldn't believe it when the beat switched up on 'Not Alike' and he just went off, I literally had the biggest smile on my face hearing that for the first time.
The one critique I can think of personally is that he should have kept the whole album as a spazzing out project instead of putting in the couple of more mellow tracks at the end. Also, is Dre doing the Suge thing now as executive producer :D His name is nowhere in the credits?
I DONT THINK DRE WAS INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT OUTSIDE OF INPUT ON WHAT SHOULD BE RELEASED N WHAT SHOULDNT
MAYBE SOME GHOST-MIXING HERE N THERE, BUT I DONT THINK HE WAS REALLY HANDS-ON MUSICALLY
Dre apparently told him one song went too far (not sure in what way) and they dropped it, so he was still involved in some level and an executive producer credit was probably still applicable.
I still don't know why he had a production credit on that skit on Revival. I mean, if he did the work, fine, but when I heard he had a production credit, it wasn't exactly what any of us were looking for.
that’s what i’m saying, dre’s input was less musical and more critical
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After listening to this solidly for the past week, the only track that I think Dr. Dre had any involvement in, production-wise, is 'The Ringer'. There are some bass-drops throughout the track that sound like his doing, and when the extra layers of the beat come in two thirds of the way through it certainly has a Dre-like feel to it. That, and possibly 'The Fall'.
I have a possible idea about the track that Eminem said 'went too far' in his interview with Sway. It's purely speculation of my own, but since the album is called Kamikaze and he's been vocal about his hate for Donald Trump, perhaps it had lyrics about flying a plane into the White House? Like I said, just an idea of the sort of fucked up topic Eminem would put in his raps, but obviously the label heads would never let something like that be released, especially since the album dropped not long before the 9/11 anniversary.
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so i been listening to this album and i gota say em kills it wit the flows more than ever and the lyricism is top notch .. he got some songs on here where he flat out raps like tech n9ne
but musically, the beats and choruses is average
so i put this album on par with mmlp2 and slightly below relapse - it’s def good to hear that he’s not done like we thought when we heard revival tho
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Em' disses media critics back who trashed his new album with full page ad...
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Eminem took out a full-page ad to diss music critics who panned his new album
Eminem and his labels took out a print ad in The Hollywood Reporter's magazine to diss the music critics who panned his latest album, "Kamikaze."
THR's editorial director, Matt Belloni, tweeted an image of the ad on Thursday and asked whether it constituted "the print equivalent of a diss track."
The ad has text superimposed over the album's artwork and is designed to look like an Oscar-campaign ad, but it reads "Not for your consideration!"
The surprise-released "Kamikaze" debuted at No. 1 in 103 countries in August but didn't get great reviews.
Fresh off a viral YouTube diss track, Eminem is trying his hand at dissing people the old-fashioned way: by taking out full-page print ads.
Eminem and his labels — Shady Records, Aftermath Entertainment, and Interscope — took out a printed ad in the latest issue of The Hollywood Reporter's magazine to diss the music critics who panned his new album, "Kamikaze."
It features quotes from negative reviews, including one from THR, which called the album "the work of an aging artist trying, and failing, to remain relevant." It notes that "Kamikaze" debuted at No. 1 in 103 countries in August and concludes with the words "Thanks for the support, a**holes!"
Eminem's ad in The Hollywood Reporter's magazine. Twitter/@THRMattBelloni
"Kamikaze" has a 62% critical rating on Metacritic, an improvement on the 50% rating for his 2017 album, "Revival," whose critics he blasted in multiple tracks on "Kamikaze."
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Em is far too sensitive :laugh:
the album is dope and I think its already outsold Revival so he should just let the critics be
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i think he shoulda left nice guy and bad guy off this shit
.. those sounded like some recovery leftovers and didn’t really fit in with the theme tbh
9 tracks + 2 skits woulda done just fine
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i think he shoulda left nice guy and bad guy off this shit
.. those sounded like some recovery leftovers and didn’t really fit in with the theme tbh
9 tracks + 2 skits woulda done just fine
agreed, scrap "Normal" too and I would have purchased this for under $10
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i think he shoulda left nice guy and bad guy off this shit
.. those sounded like some recovery leftovers and didn’t really fit in with the theme tbh
9 tracks + 2 skits woulda done just fine
agreed, scrap "Normal" too and I would have purchased this for under $10
i thought normal was a cool lil concept joint .. “why cant u bitches be normal” - i can relate.
i bought my hard copy last week
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Em' disses media critics back who trashed his new album with full page ad...
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bilboard, and stereogum are RIGHT. Totally.
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"Venom" has good verses and a decent beat but man that hook is horrible on it lol
can't get the chorus out of my head tho :laugh:
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"Venom" has good verses and a decent beat but man that hook is horrible on it lol
can't get the chorus out of my head tho :laugh:
video comin out on friday!
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https://www.youtube.com/v/8CdcCD5V-d8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CdcCD5V-d8)
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https://www.youtube.com/v/8CdcCD5V-d8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CdcCD5V-d8)
movie came out the same day. looking forward to it